Jacob and Joe sit down with Shannon Huffman Polson, author of Grit Factor: Courage, Resilience, and Leadership in the Most-Male Dominated Organization in the World. In this episode Shannon shares her experiences being one of the first female Apache pilots in the U.S. Army and offers advice to leaders on how men and women can work together to create strong cultures in their organizations. They also talk about the importance of knowing your story to develop grit when navigating uncertainty.