In this episode Jason and Nyssa build upon recent discussions of Taiyin and Jueyin physiology by exploring clinical presentations of qi stagnation/constraint/鬱 yù. When we first begin to study East Asian medicine, we often fall into the trap of considering all qi stasis patterns to involve the liver. This discussion uses clinical insight to compare and contrast Jueyin and Taiyin qi constraint and some point pairs used to address this common presentation in the modern clinic.