334 HELLO, HOORAY!

334 HELLO, HOORAY!
A quick update on everyone's life, and then the gang talks films featuring Alice Cooper!
Also discussed: The Conjuring: Last Rites, Primitive War, The Oval Portrait.

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Now I'm gonna be a bit paranoid about it. Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition. So such sights to show you. Strange eons. Welcome to strange eons. Radio that is Eric over there, hello, that is Vanessa over there. Hello, and I am Kelly, Hey, gang. We've been doing this every other week thing for a while, and you know, part of the reason was I really wanted to focus on my writing. I had all these other things going on. Let me tell you what's actually happened briefly. My dad has gotten very, very sick and does not have a long time left, and so I'm spending, like my weekends up in Bellingham with my dad right now. And my work, we had kind of a bit of a tragedy there with one of the boss's kids. And I am now also kind of running a company that I did not want to ever own or run my Jesus. So my writing not exactly happening. Although second edition of string of secret language of spiders is available, the only difference is the it contains the original screenplay. The book is based on, if that's interesting to you, this is available now, the first edition still available. So, and I have been writing a little bit, and I think I'll have something before the end of the year, but that's kind of why I've been a little out of touch and off the internet and doing this every other week thing. But I really appreciate you guys jumping in with an extra episode every once in a while. Yeah, sounded like one I need to put on my list. Yeah, I think you would enjoy it. No, remember the humor recommendation? Oh, yeah, yes, having a good time. Well, I really big ass spider is a movie I fucking love, yeah, so and I think I even have spoken about it on this show. So finding out that that was the same director has made that something that I would like to check out. It's fun. It's it's more fun than the one that it's almost identical to. The, yeah, the stupid, oh my god, I'm forgetting the kids demon night. It's though, the one with the lipstick into the Oh, Night of the demon. Night demons. Okay, yeah, yeah, Night of the demons, no. And it's fun throwing a party and you're all invited. That's right, that's better than the entire film, right? There. You should go see all the sequels, if I can just record that and play that anytime somebody volunteers that I should see that film and be like, Oh, nope, I'm good again. Thank you. Also want to, I mean, this will come out, hopefully everything all right, but a little get better. Badger heard some stuff that he's going through. So hopefully you get through all of that by the time you hear this. Yeah, really, yeah. I heard that Jeffrey was not doing very well, or, as Vanessa refers to Geoffrey, when did I do that? I'm sorry. And and I was like, Wait a second, you have to get better quickly. Because without him right there watching the episodes on YouTube, when they come out and commenting, it looks like nobody's watching. We've got a couple other folks who chime in every once in a while, grab the mantle, come forth. It's just funny, because we have like 1000s of views on those YouTube videos, but only badger comments. And I'm like, is it all Russian bots? Who's I'll take them, if it's bots and Russians are listening, up it get us up. You know, put us at 100 grand. If it's all but bots, nobody cares. Yeah, it's true. Another thing I want to show you guys is our regular listener and friend of the show and friend Bob, supplied us with this lovely book, VHS video cover art, which is fucking gorgeous. It is something else, Bob. Thank you so much for this. I got to see Bob very little at the Lovecraft Film Festival last weekend, yep. But Bob. Love you. Thank you so much. I've been paging through this, and I think we might do something with this a little later. Oh, it's very, very cool. So if anybody else is looking at I mean, I It's a coffee table book. I can't even really show you how cool this is, but it's just page after page of full color art of the full box art of a VHS thing. It's really. Gorgeous. And that's just, yeah, it's one of those things that is lost to time. But yeah, you know, the fact that people would get these crazy, epic, you know, box art done for their VHS is that had most of the time nothing to do with their movie, but looked so effing cool. It's just, it's neat that somebody took the time to collaborate that and put it in a book. I was also looking at a couple of these, like one of the and I can't remember the name of the video, but one of them is clearly a rip off of the cover of Cobra. And it is, it's like the Enforcer, or something like that, but it's the Enforcer too. And it says the man is back, clearly looks like Stallone holding a gun. And I was like, wow, this is pretty blatant. Put that right next to the Cobra. Asylum was not the first, No, certainly not. Oh, man. How is the Lovecraft Film Festival, by the way? Yeah, it was good. I got to see a little more actually, than I normally do, and most important for me is always to hang out with people that I only get to see at the Lovecraft Film Festival, and I did a lot of that, Eric, you were there for a couple of days and leave because a once in a lifetime opportunity had presented itself to you. The originally, it's always in October. So last winter deed and I bought concert tickets to our favorite artists. And it had a fun full circle kind of thing to it in that the first concert we ever went to was one of his, and it was at this location. So like, Oh, cool. We go there again. So yeah, I had to leave early on Sunday because they had to move the Lovecraft festival. But the two days I was there, it was good, good time. Plus, I mean, who knows when you'd ever get to see Darius Rucker again, except for every time he's shown up since that first time and every time after this time, if you're gonna go by that way, I've been to the Lovecraft quest festival 23 times. The ratio is much higher in favor of Lovecraft. It's a good point. Well, I'm looking forward to the day where I can leave my home enough to, oh yes, venture somewhere, where I can be a night away, yeah, from my premises, and maybe go and visit again. How are things at home? Oh, little one. Oh, so they they tell you, they tell you this a lot, right? When you have a kid, that if you go to daycare, they will get sick, like a lot, and you're like, okay, cool, flu, maybe some covid or RSV, like, I don't know there's gonna be shit that's gonna pop up you're prepped, and then they'll get something so, like, weird and historically, like, it sounds like a medieval disease. So my daughter had a fever, and then she started like, like, liquid just pouring out of her mouth constantly, like a Xenomorph, like you couldn't there was puddles with where she was walking. And I was like, Oh God, her final teeth must be coming in. Like, that's what that is. And so I kept telling everyone, oh yeah, she's teething. She's teething. And then I noticed this crazy rash that had a bunch of like, pimple like dots all over it, and I Googled it, and there's this very contagious childhood disease called Hand, Foot and Mouth, where you get rashes in your hand, foot, mouth and some other potentially delicate places. Yeah, and it just is rampant in daycares. Like, I had never heard of this. Like I'd heard a chicken pox. I had not heard of fucking hand, foot and mouth. It. Most adults don't get it. My husband, however, did get it. So that poor motherfucker, he was developing the sores and like you can't you have it for seven to 10 days, so she couldn't go to daycare for about a week. And then once I informed them, and was like, Hey, she picked this up from you guys. They then put out all these notices, and then there was all these, like emails about proper hygiene and going around, because it's just so super contagious. I did not get it, so somehow it passed me by this time. Yeah, thanks for this, telling us this now, after you've shown up in my house, oh, no, she's she even she's passed it. It's, yeah, we're good. We're very good. But yeah, so she's doing great. Now she's such a joy when she's not just so fucking miserable, like we watched so much frozen and Elmo and just let her curl up and feel like shit for days, glad that has receded. Yes, yes, I will say, though the medieval diseases are alive and well with us, and you won't know it until you're around a little person. Yeah. Well, let's, let's dive into some movies. Guys, I have seen a few things. You guys have seen a few things, and here we go. I saw the conjuring last rites. Oh my God, was it helped to make it the biggest opening of the franchise. I bet it deserved it so better by far than the last two, which is a low bar, nowhere near the heights of the first two. So it was fine, kind of like most of the conjuring. And this very well could have been called the conjuring a new beginning, because their daughter has married a guy, and they get pulled into this, this new case. I was like, This just made them the most money any of their movies has, and they're gonna be like, well, that's the last one. Guys no reason want to put out another conjuring movie, right? 100% although I did see that HBO has a conjuring series going to be starting up the the early years. How? So? This zombified horse will continue to be beaten until every last penny is rung out of it. Do you think it's near, like the top, best ones, or like the bottom tier? Because there's been, what, six of these. Now, five of these? Well, if you count the conjuring universe, I think there's 12 movies. Yeah, I guess I'm just just wondering conjuring, like, just the married, I think this is the sixth one. Okay, that's just the conjuring. The first one, still the best, I think. So I think that that's got some really nice scares and an ending that is, is very scary and not blockbuster. Yeah, exactly, yeah. You know the second one then ends with Ed hanging off of a post, off of a building and everything. You're like, wow, this has escalated very quickly. I think we would have heard about ghosts that did that seen the second one. I've seen random ones, but the 100 days has allowed me to see all of them, 100 days of horror, Aces and The Conjuring as a you know, if you stack them all up, conjurings are the best. I think, yeah, I would agree that. I mean, I think I like that first insidious better than any other conjuring. But the first one, yeah, because there's something about how fucking wacky that movie is that I really like go off the edge of the cliff really quickly. So anyway, Conrad, last rights available to rent, I have caught up now on peacemaker, yeah, are you guys? Have you seen no, oh yeah. Last episode, it went finally where I thought it was gonna go, yeah. So I'm glad for that, because I listened to a podcast where they talk about specifically superhero stuff, and they were like, maybe it won't do the most obvious possible thing. And I was like, it should just do the most obvious possible thing. The universe has a problem in it. It seems like that problem might each episode you get a little bit more like, Hmm, it's missing something here. Yeah. I mean, we knew that the other dimension was too good to be true. Yeah. I think my favorite part was Harcourt in it, like, notices immediately what is going wrong. And, yeah, and if you kind of contrast that with Peacemaker driving down the street and smiling at everybody so stoked, waving at the little boy, yeah, I love that. I love the things that don't come to him that everyone else is like, wait a minute and seeing what's what's the guy, his little buddy, vigilante meeting himself is my favorite part of that episode. So pretty, pretty good stuff, his whole secret room, where he has maybe a billion dollars worth of drugs and cash. And he's like, I'm not gonna spend this. This is blood money, and I'm watching them all jam down there. Yeah, it's a, it's a great show. Only two episodes left in this season, yeah, oh, it's not done yet. Cool. Yeah, no, there's still, yeah, still some to come. So I'm really excited to see what happens. You know, who's gonna live, who's gonna die, what the hell they're gonna do with this, this place, I'm pretty stoked. So big, big cameo scene that ties it into this. Oh, my God. All right, yes, there was I, the CAMEO. I. Thought that particular actor was not nearly as good in this cameo as they were in the film that they were in though, oh, I was kind of like, Oh, all right, fine. I mean, he's in prison now. TV lighting. Things aren't going now TV, TV, sound design, TV, it just lit. Everything is just pulled back a little. It was like, I'll be excited when we get to the next movie. That'll be great. But, yeah, I do like the James Gunn is, like, it's a shared universe. It's gonna be a fucking shared universe, like people are gonna show the fuck up, which is really nice. Oddly enough, the WB arrow Super Girl series did that really well too. You know, we're all here. We're all gonna run into each other at times. That's nice. That is really good, because it's always really upsetting when you're like, wait a minute, this huge global disaster occurred and no one can from the other man's the only one fighting. It seems wrong. Yeah, and Marvel is especially, like, guilty of this. Yeah, it's it can be very infuriating to me when I'm like, really a giant floating being, like, went over the planet's surface and only the Eternals standing on Hampstead Heath went Yes, okay, well, to bring it all staggering back to Earth with a film that I saw at the Lovecraft Festival this year. Edgar Allen post, the oval portrait in similar in Lovecraft. This is a entire movie based on a two page story. I was not familiar with this story, and I didn't see the film. It it's quite good. It is unabashedly romantic in some ways, with the if you like the leads, this is one of those movies. If you like the leads, you're gonna like the movie. If either of the leads bug you, it might be a big old slog to get through. But I thought they were both wildly entertaining and very interesting with, you know, depth, not this is my life. You're never really gonna learn anything new about me. I am a dislikable person. What's the story? The idea is, there's a guy who runs a appointment only antique shop, and he runs into a woman, not of this time, not of the time she's in. It's modern setting, so there's all the stuff and all the things, but the lead lady in it doesn't have a cell phone, checks her email at the library, and is a classical painting painter, and there is a oval portrait that a rich guy wants to be stolen, and each person who tries to steal it starts right at the beginning, gets killed. And so that's what the story is about. That sounds cool. It's it's pretty good. I always have weird things with festival viewings where sometimes, like I will really like this. Now, will I like it outside of the atmosphere that especially Lovecraft creates such an atmosphere, yeah, well, I still really like it, but I think I would so well recommended that when it comes out, I'm sure it'll be a while. Were you able to catch that King and yellow short film? I did not. Oh boy. It is good, which, yeah, I need to. It was a short. It was three people. It was a student film, which I was just like, Jesus Christ, these guys are gonna fucking become huge just and the idea of the king and yellow is the the play that, if you watch it in its entirety, it drives you mad. And there's really no way to to adapt that book into a film idea, because the background is that story, and then the books in the king in yellow are varying degrees of, you know, unreliable narrator in a slightly futuristic world and stuff like that. And it's just like, okay, not gonna happen. So I think the way to adapt the king in yellow is to do this background of the story and then tell a different story. Well, these three students of the king in yellow have decided that they're going to each take a section of the play and only read that, and then they can discuss with each other how it all comes apart, and they're very careful, and you can't use names and all of these rules and everything, but then you find out one of them has actually read all three parts, yeah, and it's really, really good. I was like, Wow, no awards, no awards for this film. I did make it to one shorts block and, damn, yeah, really, really good group of things, like six or seven shorts. Yeah? I got to see Daniel gildarks new short film. Who's fun when I wanted to see too. Yeah, I didn't even know he was up to something. I mean, of course he is, but that's cool. Well, interestingly enough, he has just finished producing a slasher film that was shot up here. Oh, yeah. So that sounds really cool, too. That's super cool. Daniel gildart, the director of Cthulhu, I saw a movie called primitive war. Do not know this, nothing. I bet you saw the previews, though, about the soldiers in Vietnam who suddenly wander into an area full of dinosaurs. Oh yes, yes, they did see the trailer. For this, their reason. We didn't see anything much after that. Well, it's not very good, but it is entertaining enough. Here's the problem. All it needed to be was American soldiers in Vietnam wandering into an area full of dinosaurs. And it, you know, the story behind it is just way too convoluted. And there's there's Russian agents there, there's wormholes, there's all of this stuff that just did not need to be a part of the story. Also the acting. The the main guy is the good looking brother from True Blood, sukis brother, I didn't see it true, okay? And I've always thought he was a fine actor, not in this. And then the female lead is the number six Cylon from Battlestar Galactica, who I also thought was a good actor, but not in this. But I will say this, the dinosaurs look cool. And the third act is everything that the movie should have been. It's also like two hours and 10 minutes long. Why does this movie need this much story? So anyway, wait for rental or wait for free streaming, and it's gonna be fine, but too much. There's a reason kind of disappeared. Yeah, primitive war. Where is that on? Well, it's not in, it's not well, it should be rental by now. I mean, there's nobody in the theater so fair. Well, I have been continuing to kind of chip away at strange new worlds. I'm not caught up yet, but just watched an episode that featured and kind of centered around the character of Kirk, and it continues. This season continues to be very weird, like they it almost feels like every episode has a totally different writer, or they're pivoting over and over again about, like, where they're trying to go, what they're trying to do. And they're very inspired by the fact that they got away with that musical episode. And so they just keep reaching for the stars. And every once in all there's a really good episode, but I would say there's more rough ones than good ones. This Kirk episode was very centered around the idea that he's number one on a ship, and he strives to be a captain, but it's just he hasn't gotten the chance yet, and then all of a sudden he gets the chance, and he basically kind of freezes up, and at the same time, a lot of the crew from the enterprise end up helping him out. And so you essentially get the crew from the original TOS working together, and it just feels little stunty. A little stunty. It just feels Yeah, just performative. I don't know if that's the right word, but sure, yeah. It just doesn't flow. And nothing quite makes sense with the I don't know why the characters are in the situations they're in right now. I don't know why Spock is with the person he's with. I and I don't know, it's just been getting pretty far off the rails this season, but still better than disco. So discovery, oh, discovery. Gonna say, How dare you sorry I haven't seen enough disc. The only disc I saw was very upsetting. So we have to do another disco. Will there be less rape? Because if so, maybe I'd be pretty easily. That's avoidable in a lot of disco. As you know, I gave up on the season very early on, and I realized why, as you're talking they have really embraced, like, the nerdiest aspects of Star Trek and the nerdiest viewers, the people who are gonna like the musical and the all the stunt stuff and everything. Those are the people I would not like to run into at a convention or sit next to at a party and all this stuff. I'm like, God, you like this episode? You know, I just wanted good sci fi. And it feels very much like it's kind of almost a comedy now, yeah, it definitely has a lot of comedic strokes, and it's tough too, because I'm watching Star Trek Next Gen at the same time. So just watched a pretty. Mid tier Star Trek Next Gen episode, where Picard is stuck on the ship. He goes to get a saddle while the ship is supposed to be cleaned. And it turns out that there's a bunch of people trying to, like, steal a bunch of shit on the ship, and he has to sort of do a die hard in there. And it's such a mid tier next gen episode, but so good, compared to, oh no, everything you know, like, it has no point when you get to the ending, it just kind of like, end ends, the end. And you're like, Why did what was the purpose? A big hit at this summer. It was very cool. Like, I mean, I loved, like, watching Picard be like a fucking badass all day, every day. I will sure I love next gen to the moon and back. But it's funny because I know, for that episode, I was like, oh, you know this one's okay, and blah, blah. But compared to strange new worlds, it's like, okay, this is actually like, this is cinema. This is trek. Oh, my well, to move away from a highly humorous one to I went to the theater with Mr. Hollis, and we caught the long walk. Yeah. Have you ever? Have you seen it? Um, I saw it? Yeah, on the convent, of course, yeah, Jesus Christ. You know, it's kind of like study of totalitarianism, friendship, endurance, and they're crazy things, yeah, when I was watching it, it's kind of like, this is good, and the trying to get spoilery or anything, but so many people said the end was devastating, which I did not find at all. There's a lot of devastating shit along the walk and some horrifically powerful movement, and we've talked several times on the show about how annoying it is with a lot of modern horror films where they're just not likable people, they show why that matters. The some of the people on this are so likable, and you so want these, yeah, people to be able to continue, but you know, they can't, which gives everything this sense of dread and tragedy almost before anything even starts. Yeah, even the two most unlikable people on the walk you still are so upset when they they had depth. They weren't just this one guy's gonna be an asshole and he'll get his, and this other guy's gonna be an arrogant Dick, and he'll get his they were deep, way beyond just being that, which I thought was even if it was briefly. I just thought, yeah, this was really, really good. I've been this is really stuck with me. I think because, much like the the friend character Peter on the walk the black kid, like he talks about looking at the world through this sort of positive lens. And that's something that I do a lot, yeah, and it's really interesting, because it really ate hard at me because of how it's so much work to do it. It's not like you're just you click on and everything's great, and you just see the world like that. You have to, like endlessly, choose that. And I was definitely crying at the end of that film, because it is, it is so difficult to watch as the world crumbles around you, but you're trying to just scoop out that beauty. It was powerful. The way I read, it was much more of a different kind of powerful. I thought it's still a very powerful ending. It wasn't, oh, okay, yeah. I thought the ending was telegraphed way too long. You know, there's basically two options. They talked about what, what was going to happen, you were like, Oh, well, this is what's going to happen now. Yeah, I liked it. This is one of my very favorite King books. He wrote this. This was his first novel before anything else was published, and it was basically him kind of lashing out about the horrors of Vietnam and everything. You can really see that in this just, you know, wasting young lives. I heard you talk about this on the mini episode. Mark Hamill, I must disagree, horribly, horribly miscast. I've hated him. He's the problem is, he's an amazing voice actor, and he's a So, so actor, and he was a voice actor in this, which means he was just way over the top and unbelievable and ridiculous. You know, I was like, no, no, no. This needed to be somebody that you could actually kind of look up to as maybe a father figure or something like that. That's who he is in the book. Oh. The world kind of looks up to the general as this man, and as the book continues to be told, you realize, holy shit, the world has gotten so bleak that this guy is just very charismatic. And you know, that's why this is even being allowed to happen. And I just don't think that I as soon as he started talking in his basically old Joker voice. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, you have completely missed this character. Read the book since, like, whenever the Bachman books came out. So I had no association to that. I just it just took me out of every time he spoke. I was like, this movie is so fucking heavy that He took me right out of it. That makes a ton of sense to me what you're saying. Because when I was viewing it, I was like, Oh, he's like a kind of figurehead of the artifice of America. And it felt like such an uncle. Sam moved like poster, yeah, like walking around. He was the image. He was not the book. He's like a comically large character could have been. I just didn't think that it worked for me. No, that's fine. I mean, that makes a lot of sense. The ending in the book is really different from this ending, and I'm not sure that you could film the ending in the book, because it's, it's, it's kind of left up to you to decide what has happened. You're like, Is he insane? Did he live what you know? So I wasn't sure how they were going to do that, and I didn't mind this ending. I wish it had happened in a way that surprised me. Is all, I guess I might have been good, but there's also just straightforward storytelling where you don't necessarily have to be surprised at the end. No, which I think it did. It didn't try to hide anything. Yeah, it it did surprise me, because I You're so used to this universe in which spoil it, but like the the person who should be the one who lives at the end is always the one who lives at the end. And so I was like, Oh, Thank fuck. Okay. Thank you for not going that direction. I appreciated that. I liked how who who ended up being there at the end, but I didn't like the choices that were made at that point. I was like, Why the fuck did we do that? That makes no sense to me right now. Like it really felt like a hollow choice to take the character that we spent all that time developing a viewpoint for and then just throw it all out the window. I was like, I guess that's a statement, but it just it felt like too easy of one. Here's here's the way to fix it easily. You know, the the Hey everybody, don't listen to this. For me, if you haven't seen the movie, because I've talked about the very end he, he pulls the gun on him. We cut to black, yeah? Or what I was really hoping would happen. I knew it wasn't going to. They both stop walking. They're televised. They're at the end point. They stand there and they say, they both say, My wish is that, moving forward, that you get, like, to have two winners, and then it's like they fucked the system. They can't do anything about it. Some kids something different than something different. And I know that that might not be the pathetic ending, but it's a nice hopeful. Yeah, it gives you something, and then it's such a better fuck you to the man in that way and like, hey, brotherhood matters. Friendship matters. Like, sacrificing yourself isn't that strong of I think a friendship point. I mean, okay, it's fine, but it's very It also had been done several times in the movie, yeah, yeah. It was not the first times. Also minor quibble, none of these kids, except for a few, looked like they were under the age of 18. To me, they there's a point at the beginning where somebody says, I don't think he's 18, so I think they, they were saying he's young, 16. They're all supposed to be under 18. And in the book, they're like, 13. And I'm like, I get it. You show a bunch of kids get blown away. Do you notice that curly the very first kid who gets it? That was JoJo rabbit. Oh, he looked familiar. But I did not. I was like, that's what every kid should look like. He should look that fucking young. But overall, I mean, if we're going to put it in King adaptations, it's been a good, good year for King adaptation. Yeah, I think monkey might have been even better of a movie, but maybe not of an adaptation, because it's a short more fun to watch. For sure, yeah, for sure. You know, I'm going to. Take this opportunity to then you guys talked about this and weapons in your episode. And I would love to say that I liked weapons a lot as well. And I don't know if you guys felt this at all, but I thought it had a real, really dark Ray Bradbury feel to it, with the kids in danger, small town, yeah, all that stuff. I do wish that some the threads had been tied up a little bit, yeah. But otherwise I was like, Boy, what a, what a cool little movie. Yeah? Scary, yeah. Scary. Oddly funny. Oddly funny. In places, yeah? And in odd places to, like, the end, yeah, this is so much more humorous. I have never rooted so hard for, like, the most horrific ending of somebody's life. But I was like, yeah, go fucking get a little girl. Here's what I do. Need a weapons verse, and they're already talking about a prequel, who the witch was before. No, don't care. Don't need goddess. Ambiguous. Ambiguous is that's a great choice. Yes. The best part, not knowing who the fuck she is, why she's there, how she shows up in these weird dreams and suddenly is sitting in a principal's office, is like, what the fuck are you? Yeah, like, perfect, quick tie back to the long walk. But I think that's part of the problem. Is Us story people aren't big fans of ambiguous endings, ambiguity in the end of films. Yeah, you know, you the if, like, Iron Man snapped and the movie ended. What that would be wild. I mean, it wouldn't work in that like when I got back from that spider man and I realized the film had ended off cliffhanger, I still lost one minute for we still haven't got that third fucking movie. I'm so mad. I'm so endlessly mad about this. Well, the guys from Stranger Things thinks that's good. See that article where they're talking about, oh, it's great that it takes years between like, no for you, for you, you're doing a bunch of you need the production. I don't remember what the fuck happened and why I care. Alice in borderland, thanks. Glad there's another season. Don't even remember why the fuck it matters? Wow, we have really got off the rails here anyway, just to bring it back, yeah, to long walk, I guess so. And that could even be a studio note at the ending was, you know, hey, we got to see something pretty solid here. But I think that they did the rest of the story a disservice by a a pretty predictable ending, sure. Oh, 100% I don't know why. After they spent all that time talking about his viewpoint, they suddenly gets a gun and does the thing that his other I don't, I don't get it. I don't understand. But Well, I mean, that's a bleak idea that, you know, all it took was, yeah, less than a week to completely change his attempted five minutes, because he was still holding on until, like that last one little thing, and it, and his friend does this great thing for him, and then he's like, Well, fuck, I don't care anymore. I guess I'm just gonna, you're right. You couldn't see either. You gave up because you couldn't see the world this way. So I'm just not going to either cool, but it was very depressing. Let's take a break. We can continue arguing off air, can we? And when we come back, we're actually changing it up, and we are talking about Alice Cooper. You PT Cruiser, it's scottsdale's newest and coolest airpark, Chrysler Jeep with PT cruisers, zero down to 29 a month, $3,000 cash back on Jeep Grand Cherokees, or 0% financing for a full 60 months. So fly in to Alice Cooper, Chrysler Jeep. That's airport Chrysler Jeep. Alice Frank Lloyd Wright and Hayden just off the 101, in Scottsdale. Ooh. That hurt you. We have returned. You know, guys, if anyone was paying any attention, we were supposed to talk about films from 1986 this episode. But we also got a lovely donation by Kevin bird. Thank you very much, Kevin and he had requested that we throw Alice Cooper into our sub genre, and we decided we were gonna pre empt. Yeah. I mean, we're since we're a lot more spaced out now, if we pushed it back, that starts to get. A long way, exactly right? It's true. So we're going to be talking about Alice Cooper. I've got a little bit of notes here on Alice Cooper. Oh, great. You guys don't know who he is, yeah, not at all. Alice Cooper, born Vincent fernier, is considered to be the godfather of shock rock, drawing from horror films vaudeville and garage rock to pioneer and macabre and theatrical brand of rock and a career that has spanned more than five decades. The name Alice Cooper was originally the band name that released seven albums from 1969 to 1973 when the group disbanded in 75 he changed his name legally to Alice Cooper and began a solo career with concept album, welcome to my nightmare, still probably my favorite album of his great album, he released several singles with varying levels of success in the 80s, but in 1989 his career experienced a huge revival with the album trash and the single poison. Since then, he has managed to stay relevant by touring almost constantly. He continues to release new music regularly, and his latest album came out this year. 2025 the revenge of Alice Cooper, the first album since 73 to be released under the Alice Cooper band, rather than as a solo artist. I happen to be a huge Alice Cooper fan, and I was delighted when Kevin sent this donation in and the suggestion Alice Cooper's so I'm gonna start us off Excellent. All right, give yourself five minutes on the strange eons radio buzzer. I am talking about the 1980 classic roadie Brody, starring meatloaf as Travis W red fish, that woman. Oh, that woman thinks I'm some guy named roadie. Red Fish can fix him. Get me two beers and a hoof hemp. Red Fish can fix anything I need a Ford why he's the best roadie in the whole world. Fans make it rough, but the roadies make it roll. Roadie starring meatloaf. Art cardi, hi everybody. Khaki Hunter, I'm a groupie on my way to New York City to become the greatest groupie that ever lived. Brody, you got the right idea. I love outlaws. Alice Cooper, Alice Cooper, she's one of Charlie's Angels. Get him. Brody, the ultimate rock and roll fantasy. He's a champion the eons of roadies in a rock and roll car or a rock and roll bar. He's the closest thing there is to a rock and roll star, strange and wondrous tail, BP, rage and wondrous Roadies. The bands make it rock, but the roadies MAKE IT Pro. Thank you very much. And good night, directed by Alan Rudolph, who has directed terror circus return engagement, The Secret Lives of dentists, and written by Big Boy Medlin, Michael Ventura and Zalman King, the only name on here who actually has any kind of career, Zalman King wrote Nine and a half weeks two, Moon junction, wild orchid and the red shoes. Trend there, yeah, starring Marvin, a day Meatloaf From The Rocky Horror Picture Show out of bounds, Wayne's World and Fight Club. Also in this is khaki Hunter, who is in Porky's Porky's too the next day, Porky's revenge like Pee Wee and art Carney, obviously, from the honeymooners, fire starter muffins. Take Manhattan, the last action here though, the Late Show WWE and the Dixie dance kings, Harry and Tonto and the Star Wars. Holiday Special, excellent. Also in this movie is a bevy of cameos from musicians, Don Cornelius, Roy Orbison, Hank Williams, Jr, Debbie, Harry Kurt wood Smith is in this Peter Frampton, Johnny Winter and Alice Cooper and the entire Alice Cooper band guys meet Travis W red fish, Texas, good old boy and delivery driver for shiner beer. He's a whiz at fixing things, and he loves helping his dad, corpus see redfish with the family salvage company. It is a strange world he lives in, and we get to see it all in the initial setup, his dad basically lives in a big armchair with an automated arm that travels him throughout the house and which is just full of ridiculous contraptions that he's built. Also there is Travis's best friend, Bibi, who has the hots for Travis's Sister Alice. One day, while Travis and bebe are making deliveries, they come across an RV broken down on the side of the road, and Travis is immediately smitten by a woman from the RV, Lola, so he decided. Kids to stop and help remember he is a whiz at fixing things. After repairing the RV, Lola talks him into traveling with the guys she's with who are road managers for some band. And Lola also tells Travis all about the person she's hoping to meet one day one Alice Cooper, Travis says he's never heard of her, but he'd be happy to travel with him. He goes with them to a rough and tumble bar, where he impresses everyone by setting up the sound equipment better than anyone they've ever seen. Later, he gets into a bar fight and gets hit on the head and put into a dazed state called Brain lock. While he's confused, the road manager convinces him to keep traveling with them so he can take advantage of Travis's almost supernatural skills with tech equipment. Not too hard to convince him, though, because he has fallen in love with Lola and will help her meet Alice Cooper. Along the way, he continues to impress other bands and their managers, gets in and out of big trouble, and even manages to flirt successfully with Debbie Harry. But when he and Lola have a blowout argument, after he tells her he loves her, he drags her to Alice Cooper's show in New York City, and tries to leave her with him so she can fulfill her groupy dreams. However, Alice has heard of Travis's reputation and convinces him to stay long enough to fix the problems with Alice's sound system. In return, Alice buys him a bus to drive himself back to Texas, and gives Lola VIP treatment with a front row seat backstage access and the promise of a romantic evening. Travis is heartbroken, but he has just found out that his best friend and his sister are getting married back in Texas, so he races home to attend, even though Lola is pleading for him to stay. After all, will Lola finally realize that it's a Travis she wants to be with? Will Travis get a phone call from her during his sister's wedding, telling him she has given up her groupie dreams and is waiting at a nearby Texas bus stop for him, and as they consummate their relationship in the back of Travis's new bus, will they be interrupted by an alien spacecraft suddenly arriving, allowing Lola to use long, dormant psychic powers to sense that The UFO is broken, and the aliens want Travis to fix it. Whoa. And did I watch the wrong movie? This movie is quite silly, but I've always loved it, and I think Kevin Byrd would also appreciate this weird little oddity in Alice Cooper's career trivia, both Alice Cooper and meatloaf will appear together again 12 years later in Wayne's World, Travis's house at the beginning of the movie is the same house used in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And Travis W red fish was originally created by Texas writer Big Boy Medlin for a newspaper column. That is the extent of his writing credit. This is the first appearance of Kurt wood Smith in a movie bitches leave. Wow. It's where you sit there with that timer in the bathroom and read, gone, I'm back, baby. That's how it's done. Vanessa, oh, God, would you like to go next? No, but I will five minutes for you. Okay, well, I went with a 1984 horror film, monster dog. It's 20 years later, and Vince Raven is going home. He's hoping for a new beginning, but somehow he can't escape the horror of his past. You and now things are really getting hairy. Sometimes I'm James Bond. Sometimes I feel like Sherlock. Sometimes I feel like Jack. I image today, you people say it's only. Legend. But no matter how real the story, a legend can't kill. Is he human, or is he master of the dogs? The terror of your worst nightmare is about to be unleashed, monster dog. This is also starring Alice Cooper, who has 77 credits, including Wayne Jesus Christ, superstar live in concert, and as we have talked about on the show Prince of Darkness. This is written and directed by Claudio fragaso, 32 credits, including troll, two zombie, three rats, night of terror and the seven magnificent Gladiators, also starring alongside Alice Cooper and several Spanish actors who seem to be pretty big, Ricardo Palacios, who has 172 credits, Victoria Vera, who has 53 and BARDA Berry, who has 134 including horror Express Treasure Island. But I don't know most of the titles of these people, so I just assume that you see them on the screen and you're in Spain, and you go, cool. I know you. The plot is Vince Raven, a famous singer is heading to his childhood home, a remote mansion in Spain, to shoot a music video with his friends. He is not Spanish. He is just an American guy. They just so happen to be there, just also so happens to be a killer pack of dogs out on the loose as they approach his home, a thick fog takes over, and the police stop them to warn them of what's going on. They continue on their way, promising to go straight there and find weapons. But along the way, they hit a dog, and when they get out, they are confronted by a large, unusual looking dog in the woods, who then disappears, however, reappearing in his stead is an old man who comes out covered in wounds and tells them that they will all die. So they go back to the house, settle in and find the place oddly empty, despite a giant welcome home sign outside, one of the girls in his group dreams a nightmare where they all die and that Vince is a werewolf. He later confides in his girlfriend that his father was killed by the locals because they believed him to be a werewolf. While he is out doing some music video shenanigans and the friends are back at the house, his neighbors come by with guns and threaten to kill all his roadies, but Vince arrives and begins taking them out one by one, just as the dog pack also arrives. Is he a werewolf or is he just a cool guy that the dogs happen to like? Watch monster dog to find out if you can find it, which you can't, you have to find a weird Russian website that's streaming it randomly, and that's the way that you will get a hold of this film. Wow. Thoughts. This has a music video at the start and at the end. That is a identical song with slightly different footage, one of which recapping the film. It is so bad. So it's not Alice Cooper song. It is an Alice Cooper song. It is an Alice Cooper song. It is so fucking god awful. It has very little to do with the movie, other than he could be James Bond. He could be in disguise. He could be anybody. Oh, it's so bad. The effects and practical in this film are fun enough. I think it kind of helps it move along. But the actual plot and budget of this piece lacks. It is, it is just, there's no point really in the film. But other than going Alice Cooper, you got some makeup, you know, that's, that's anyway, he's also just about, unfortunately in this film, the most uncool guy you have ever met. He is not the cool rock star that you know and love. The women in this, however, are hot, but I am definitely not convinced that his girlfriend is in quote, unquote, electronic video technician, expert that she claims to be. I just don't buy it. A little bit of trivia, none of the actors dubbed their own lines. The only time that Alice Cooper's real voice is heard during this are the two musical sequences. Oh, wow. The rest of it is the dialog in the English version, dubbed by Ted Russ, known for 43 things, including passion, the Christ 26 episodes of Johnny Soko and his flying robot, and 104 episodes of Coco Bill Alex. Alex Cooper had been an alcoholic for his entire adult life, and he developed a cocaine habit in the late 70s. His music career dwindled and his health was jeopardized. He finally made the decision to get sober in 83 The same year, the record label dropped him, leaving him unsure of his professional future when he was asked to start. Are in this low budget film. He perceived it as an opportunity to get back to work again, and signed on with the understanding that the movie would not be released outside of the Philippines, which is fair. I That makes a lot of sense. The scene in which the dogs chase the girls up a staircase, I'm rusty. What can I say? Chase the girls up a staircase was intended to be shot in a single take because the dogs had been deprived of food, and the actresses were genuinely afraid that they'd become a meal. Halfway through the scene, the onset still photographer shouted stop, because he'd run out of film and needed to reload this anchored director Claudio fragaso Fragasso, so he took one of the loaded shotguns used in the movie and chased the photographer around the set, firing shots in the air as he hurled obscenities at him. From that point on, the Spanish crew began referring to fragrassio as El director loco, the crazy director, which he found very amusing. Director Claudio fragreso asked Alice Cooper to write two songs for the film. 15 days before photography commenced, Cooper rushed to write the songs and the record label the record temp demo tracks, which were ultimately utilized in the final cut of the film. The songs were later included in the CD box set the life and crimes of Alice Cooper. I have to admit, I have always wanted to watch this movie, and the the trailer has stopped me because it looked so goddamn cheap. Oh, it's very cheap. I would say, You know what? You have enough alcohol or drugs in you, it'll fly by. I do. When you said that, said you have enough trucks in your system, you'll be fine. I want to make assumptions, but now it's just that even his voice was dubbed. It's, it's, I didn't know. I thought he just was dubbed like everybody was dubbed because, you know, it's Spanish, and that's just the way of certain places. And then later, when I read that, I was like, Oh, I wonder what he actually sounds like? He sounds like this? Well, no, he does not. He sounds like a nerd. Well, he does kind of sound like a nerd, especially, especially now, well now with his golfing monster dog, okay, Eric, what did you pick? Fucking hell. Sorry, Eric, my joyful viewing pleasure was 2012 Bigfoot. You have had another all night. Ride with the one, the only Henderson. We got two days to clear all those trees. This festival is destroying 50 acres of South Dakota forest. The desecration stops now. You just couldn't stay out of my spotlight. Could you get the National Guard nature attacked us in self defense? Whoa. What's the job we're gonna kill big picking up something on the infrared. Hope that's gonna be big enough. Only reason you want to kill big to piss me off. What is this? A hoot, Nanny, you need to pull eons. Strike on the top of Mount Rushmore. I wish your mother were here. A made for TV movie directed by Bruce Davidson, whose main thing is Harry and the Henderson's TV show, Bigfoot related TMI holiday Hollywood, something called off season, but not the one I thought right written Brian binkman, who wrote meter apocalypse. He has 55 editing credits though, Mitch Oh, Robert rature, also Meteor apocalypse and hey, mega shark versus chronosaurus, five episodes of Z Nation and Predator killer of killers. I see where this is going. This stars. Danny badaducci, oh boy, you know, I know him from the Petra Partridge Family, Corvette summer or Partridge Family, 2200 eons and Barry Williams, oh, my god. Greg Brady, from 117 episodes of The Brady Bunch and nine, nine episodes of The Brady Bunch variety show. And of course, 17 episodes of the Brady kids. Bruce Davidson, who's pretty good X Men, earth's final hour last summer. Willard, 286 credits, is he also the director? Did I read the Bruce Davidson? No, Brian Brinkman or Okay, no, yes, he is. Oh, dude, why'd you do that to yourself? Yeah? I was like, it can't be the same actor, who's awesome. He's a great actor, and he's the best actor in this movie. Also, Sherilyn Finn and Howard Hessman Jesus Christ. Rentless do this as Sharknado level effects, as they bring out the Bigfoot, who is so fucking huge. He is waist high to a motor home at some point, which he picks up and tears apart. He picks people up and bites their heads off and stuff like that. He is, in no way, a and when he walks, it's like the earth shakes with every footstep. So that's okay. This is not a creature that's hiding anywhere. Oh, man, that is a big foot Danny, but adjushes plays a radio host show, talk show, who's putting on a special concert of eons bands to come back together and play at this, whatever small freaking town this is, I think it's in South Dakota. And Greg Beatty pays a guy who wants to preserve the area, to protect, initially, the wilderness, but then the Bigfoot when he finds out about it, which he does change his mind on that one when he actually sees it. But Bruce and Sherrilyn Finn play the cops. Hessman is the mayor, and let's see, where can I go with this? Oh, and apparently, Danny and Barry were in a band together that was real big, but they broke up, and Barry's pissed about Danny, that's that's why you want to destroy my concert. Because, you know, like we broke up, stupid shit. The first scene where the guys are yelling at each other had to have like, 20 bloopers because they look like they're trying not to crack up while they're yelling. My god, I'm a tolerable person of shitty films. We all know this, right? Yes, Jesus Christ, asylum would go, man, we can't put this fucker out. What part does it sounds like? It has to be an asylum film. But what part does Alice play? Here comes, okay? And the concert venue starts. It's supposed to be, you know, the giant, 1000s of people, and it looks like a couple risers from a local high school with some shit put around it to look like, like trestles and stuff. It's just ridiculous. And the crowd is about 40 people shown from different angles trying to make it look like they're more. Alice Cooper is behind the stage yelling, what's going on? This is crap. I can't perform. Aaron like it's under contract. You'll perform. He's the guest, and like, Barry's supposed to sing. So Barry comes out, he starts singing. That ends in like 30 seconds, and then Alice Cooper, the star comes out. So I don't know what the hell the other bands were. There weren't any. He did say Proko haram and harem, and harem and sting are stuck at the airport, but harem that'd be stuck there for 40 fucking years exactly. And Alice does manage to mention he has a book out on golf. And then he comes on stage and thinking, well, they'll at least have an Alice Cooper song. No, whoever put this movie together paid Alice, but would not pay him enough to use one of his songs. So in what has to be five to seven minute segment as they're cutting between him and the Bigfoot starting to attack the concert is just this weird repetition of canned, kind of metal sounding music, and Alice going, and you keep waiting, and it sounds like it a song, And then it just starts up again, going, Jesus Christ, man. So, yeah, this was not good. You chose poorly. Oh, my God, but that's the biggest note I could come up with, that Danny and Barry did a celebrity boxing match, and when Danny beat up Barry in the boxing match, yeah, so I should have watched Dallas Cooper concert or something, yeah, or maybe a conglomeration of all his commercial work someplace. He's got some of those Japan or something. Vanessa probably doesn't know this, but Eric knows that we were subjected to Danny ducci on our airwaves for about 12 years. He was the morning guy for Kc, okay, radio, oh, that's why I didn't listen to KC, okay. Or was it? KSW, whatever it was, I was I was just like, well, I will never listen to this station while he is on. He is such an annoying little troll. However, got very sick and has retired lives in Florida now, so I hope he's at least comfortable in his sickness and doing what he can to feel better, right? Don't watch your old movie. Okay, Danny, because I know. You're gonna listen. The one thing I will say about him is he is very aware of who he is, yeah. The other thing is, he's very proud of who Yes, that too, yeah. But, well, he tried, I would tell you he was putting his effort. Yeah. God damn. I can't imagine watching him in a lead role and Bruce Davidson directing, what the fuck? But you can tell I walked into this film was that I did connect. The actor is the director of the same person, yeah, when you said it starred him too, I was like, this, can't be Bruce Davidson, who's been in blockbuster movies. Oh yeah. And he, honestly, he was the best guy, which is, you know, sometimes when directors direct themselves, that doesn't go real well. Yeah, somebody had some fucking pictures of him. How else to explain something like this? Well, there you guys have it. Alice Cooper, thank you, Kevin. Sort of the upfront part. Thanks. It was great. I'll pick a different movie. Good that your movie sound great. I mean, it's stupid, really stupid, but it is a lot of fun. Okay, well, so, and then we already know that I had chosen 1986 so we'll do that for the next episode. Excellent. So that means that this is the part where we say, hey, thanks everybody. Thanks Kevin bird for donating something. You know, if you want to donate something and request us to do a movie, that's how you guys did the convent, too, right? Yep. So we're more than happy to look at a film, if that's what it takes to get you to send us a moolah or, you know, a topic is even better. We don't have to watch your shitty convent movie. Thank you. Micah, it's called value for value. If you get some kind of value out of this, then give some value back, and that includes liking and sharing posts, commenting, thanks, Jeffrey, get better on the YouTube videos. All of that stuff is some kind of value. I don't understand how the algorithm works, but I do know that the more you interact with it, the more other people see it. Yeah, it's true. Watching the 100 Days of horror that I'm post posting, so probably this come out, we'll still have a couple weeks left of that that's on the Facebook talk page. And then is there anywhere else that you've been posting that 100 Days of horror Facebook group and my Instagram? Excellent. Very nice. And Vanessa, where else can they reach us. You guys can also reach us on strange eons radio hotline, which is 253-237-4266, you can leave us a voicemail. You can send us a text message. We would love to hear from you, ideally let us know that it's okay to use it, but regardless, we will. 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