339 IF I CAN DREAM!

339 IF I CAN DREAM!
HBO and James Gunn are developing some surprising DC series, and people are freaking out about it!
Also Discussed: Welcome to Derry, Frankenstein, The Running Man, Dudes.

Transcript

[11:10:27:00 - 11:10:28:07]
Speaker 2
 your mic on also.

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Speaker 4
 Oh, no.

[11:10:29:13 - 11:10:31:18]
Speaker 2
 Oh, is that

[11:10:31:18 - 11:10:36:11]
Speaker 3
 just? Oh, okay. I just have to talk

[11:10:36:11 - 11:10:37:12]
Speaker 1
 into time.

[11:10:39:03 - 11:11:29:12]
Speaker 2
 You'll love to hear this. I'm the frozen trio just lined up animations biggest payday ever. Kristen Bell, Josh Gadd, and I need a man's elbow each pocket $60 million for frozen three and frozen form quadrupling their frozen two paydays and obliterating previous animation records for context. Tom Hanks earned 20 million for Toy Story 4. Eddie Murphy got 15 million for Trev two. These deals which could push each sequel's budget north of $300 million. He details Disney's new calculus with Marvel fatigue sitting in and Pixar learning what box office disappointment feels like. House of Mouse is paying whatever it takes to protect its guaranteed billion dollar franchises. When you generated $11 billion in merchandise alone. Wow. That's another $180 million.

[11:11:29:12 - 11:11:33:04]
Speaker 3
 I'm wondering how much I have spent alone in my house.

[11:11:34:21 - 11:11:36:05]
Speaker 3
 For sure. For sure.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah, I had heard that. Is that for a million for voices? That's for both films though, right? That's for both films. I know that's funny. It's good to have the number, you know, put it a little bit in vague perspective. But yeah, no, it's crazy. And it is kind of sad because Josh Gadd or Josh Gadd, Josh Gaugh, Josh Gaugh. Anyway, one of them.

[11:12:00:12 - 11:12:01:17]
Speaker 2
 Josh Gadd is the guy.

[11:12:01:17 - 11:12:05:09]
Speaker 3
 Not Josh Gadd, the other one. The guy who plays in Hamilton.

[11:12:06:16 - 11:12:12:09]
Speaker 3
 Anyway, he plays Kristoff like he's not included in that number. So I'm hoping he got some kind of paycheck.

[11:12:12:09 - 11:12:20:18]
Speaker 2
 I'm guessing you got a pretty good vision. I really hope so. I think that this is because it's so fucking huge. I mean, what are you going to feel about it? We got five billion.

[11:12:20:18 - 11:12:23:09]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, he's a good dude.

[11:12:24:18 - 11:12:25:20]
Speaker 3
 He deserves it.

[11:12:25:20 - 11:12:32:17]
Speaker 2
 He's not a good dude. He's making $5 million on a project. He is insane and has no idea what it's like to live like we do anymore.

[11:12:32:17 - 11:12:39:21]
Speaker 3
 Probably true. He's a New York Broadway actor. I feel like he's probably a certain level of insane and grounded because of that.

[11:12:39:21 - 11:12:41:16]
Speaker 2
 They are all monsters.

[11:12:41:16 - 11:12:49:16]
Speaker 3
 You're right. I'm going to recontextualize that in my brain. Give them a little grace, Kelly.

[11:12:49:16 - 11:12:57:15]
Speaker 2
 I'm giving them grace. I'm giving them all the grace, a guy who makes $80,000 a year in May. Fair enough.

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Speaker 1
 All right. Are we ready to go?

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Speaker 3
 I think so. I'm going to need to up my headphones a little bit louder.

[11:13:12:02 - 11:13:13:06]
Speaker 3
 Probably because they're different.

[11:13:14:10 - 11:13:17:12]
Speaker 3
 Check, check, check, check, check. I'm fine.

[11:13:17:12 - 11:13:20:17]
Speaker 2
 Any news on the winery?

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Speaker 3
 I will find out more after Thanksgiving. We're going to go out there for Thanksgiving. I'll find out a little bit. Some other vineyards didn't go fund me for them. So that's helpful.

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Speaker 2
 I would think some other winery would just kind of swoop in and say, "Oh, we're picking this up." We'll either continue the name or we won't, but it's not going to go away as a winery.

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Speaker 3
 I don't think so. No, I think they'll be able to sell it because it's got such a good reputation.

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Speaker 3
 They put in so much additional infrastructure where they redid the barn that was basically left alone and abandoned. They made a venue.

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Speaker 3
 So I think that that- That's

[11:14:01:09 - 11:14:08:04]
Speaker 2
 where you got married, right? So they've got the ability to do stuff like that. Was that something they were offering to other people or was that a family?

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Speaker 3
 It was initially for that summer, I think it was just us. And then this summer they did a couple weddings. So they had started. I mean, it's crazy how hard it is to make money doing shit. I have no idea how. I was like, "You just sell the wine." They're like, "Uh-uh. That's not making the money." They're like, "We have to have these events every day. We have to have..." They are open pretty much every single day from, I don't know if it's 10 a.m. till 7 p.m. for people to just come by and drink. That's how they make most of their money.

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Speaker 1
 The barn was fantastic. That was all stuff they did.

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Speaker 3
 The barn was there. The structure was there, but they were just housing shit in there. It was not a space that you could use.

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Speaker 1
 That's a point doing that.

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Speaker 3
 Oh, yeah. They definitely... Well, he had an insurance business. He sold, which is how they bought this. He had had, I don't know how much money they got off of that, but they sold that. Then they sold a house in...

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Speaker 3
 Actually, it's some little island,

[11:15:18:09 - 11:15:30:04]
Speaker 3
 a raft island. They had a little bit of capital ready to improve it a bit. I do know that they're stretched very thin right now. It's a bummer. It is a bummer.

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Speaker 2
 Just for certification, we're doing Dream first, right?

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Speaker 3
 Yes.

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Speaker 3
 We're doing Dream first.

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Speaker 1
 Yes, that was the last one. That was said at the end of the master's...

[11:15:45:09 - 11:15:45:22]
Speaker 3
 I don't know.

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Speaker 1
 Excellent.

[11:15:47:05 - 11:15:47:21]
Speaker 3
 Really cares.

[11:15:49:08 - 11:16:00:05]
Speaker 3
 Somebody out there is back to back listening to our episodes, and they'll go, "Wait a minute. Hold up. You guys said you were going to talk about this thing." You bastards. Yeah, one audience member out there probably...

[11:16:01:07 - 11:16:02:21]
Speaker 2
 Fucking Daniel for a different time.

[11:16:05:16 - 11:16:07:15]
Speaker 2
 I can think of another.

[11:16:10:21 - 11:16:12:05]
Speaker 1
 Having his stuff to...

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Speaker 2
 DeBranzo told me that the Strange Eons Radio hotline drouches over. Must have left a message today.

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Speaker 1
 Oh, shit. Oh, okay. Just say that. Yes. Say one.

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Speaker 1
 That's excellent.

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Speaker 4
 Okay, ready? Yeah.

[11:16:51:17 - 11:16:56:10]
Speaker 2
 Welcome to Strange Eons Radio. That is Eric over there. Oh. That has been us over there.

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Speaker 4
 Hello.

[11:16:56:23 - 11:17:03:05]
Speaker 2
 And I am Kelly. Hey, everybody out there listening. We are now trying out new microphones.

[11:17:03:05 - 11:17:04:01]
Speaker 3
 I've moved into that.

[11:17:04:01 - 11:17:12:06]
Speaker 2
 So, we'll see if these work, and if they do, then it's a couple of weeks. You might see all this stuff go away. Okay. So, that's the hope. That is the hope.

[11:17:12:06 - 11:17:18:11]
Speaker 3
 I need a prop to hide behind. What do you mean? Well, you've got your... That's true. ... your computer. Yes. Just the laptop of...

[11:17:20:02 - 11:17:31:12]
Speaker 2
 Do you guys see... Oh, the complaining. HBO is developing a V for Vendetta series now. Which I've never read the book. I've seen the movie.

[11:17:32:13 - 11:17:34:04]
Speaker 2
 Can this justify a series?

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Speaker 1
 Yeah. Thanks to the Alan Moore book. There's a lot there. Okay.

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Speaker 3
 I haven't read it. I do own it. But, yeah, is it... I mean, if it's Alan Moore, there's probably an extensive amount of content. Yeah. It's pretty good.

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Speaker 2
 And the complaint, of course, is that James Gunn is the executive producer. Everybody's just like, "He's got to ruin everything." People, James Gunn is going to be the executive producer on every DC film because he is the DC film guy.

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Speaker 4
 Oh, that's true.

[11:18:05:05 - 11:18:08:14]
Speaker 2
 Really? It's like seeing Kevin P. E. Gunn every Marvel.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah.

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Speaker 2
 It doesn't mean Kevin P. actually did anything. Yeah, that's true. The other thing I see that they're doing, and this is all kind of up in the air because HBO or Warner is maybe being sold. Right. Or maybe splitting into two companies. So, you know, who knows if it's actually Kevin P. But HBO is also developing DC crime, which you would think might be a Batman

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Speaker 3
 spin-off? Batman?

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Speaker 2
 No. A Superman spin-off starring Jimmy Olsen.

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Speaker 3
 Oh, no.

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Speaker 3
 Oh, Jimmy.

[11:18:43:20 - 11:18:49:20]
Speaker 2
 You know, there was coven in the movie. I think that they're maybe, "Oh, maybe he's going to break out." You know, sorry.

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Speaker 3
 Maybe. I mean, yeah. Like, I'm always surprised when, because I usually am like, "Oh, that will never work." And then I'm always proved wrong. So maybe it'll be great.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. I mean, we'll see. They're doing all of this stuff. I would really like to see a few more things actually happen before they announce things. Like, they haven't seen "Wandrens" yet. Yeah. They have no idea if that's going to be any good. I mean, got high hopes for it.

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Speaker 3
 I'm super high hopes. I really, in my heart, hope that "Lanterns" is incredible.

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Speaker 1
 I look champion though, Gunn, because I think most of what he's worked on is at least good. Yeah. I mean, I don't think he's had a "Gardens of the Galaxy." Marvel were freaking morons to let him go. Yeah. And then what he's done so far with DC has just been pretty damn good.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. I mean, even "Suicide Squad," which I didn't think was great, was so much better than anything DC was putting out at that time. Yeah. But it was a clear sign that he was bringing something fresh to the table.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. I'm pretty happy with that decision, because it's not like DC was doing great. Come on, Ty. Come on. I mean, like...

[11:19:59:15 - 11:20:01:15]
Speaker 2
 Zack Snyder, what's your problem?

[11:20:01:15 - 11:20:06:07]
Speaker 3
 I'm the only one here who's even liked any of the Zack Snyder stuff.

[11:20:06:07 - 11:20:11:00]
Speaker 1
 Well, well, no. Fine. Maybe not. Maybe in PC stuff, you like some Zack Snyder stuff.

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Speaker 3
 Oh, no. I'm not talking about Watchmen. 300. I'm talking about, you know, when I rewatched, what was it, "Justice League" or whatever, the long one.

[11:20:21:21 - 11:20:27:12]
Speaker 3
 You know, I've tried. I've given Zack more to you than he probably needs, but...

[11:20:27:12 - 11:20:31:06]
Speaker 2
 I need to just piggyback off that statement, because, you know,

[11:20:32:19 - 11:20:43:06]
Speaker 2
 Instagram, Facebook, everything is just such a fucking trash fire now. Oh, no. So they posted a new picture of Ben Affleck as Batman. A new, old picture. A new picture we hadn't seen before.

[11:20:44:09 - 11:20:46:04]
Speaker 2
 And I decided to comment.

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Speaker 4
 No, no.

[11:20:47:12 - 11:20:56:10]
Speaker 2
 You know, I didn't like this movie, but we really deserved a Ben Affleck Batman, because I think he's... I agree. Yeah. He was the best Batman we ever got.

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Speaker 4
 Totally.

[11:20:56:22 - 11:21:07:03]
Speaker 2
 And the comments were all about what a piece of shit I am in the product that I make and everything. And I was like, "Oh, I just said I didn't like this movie."

[11:21:07:03 - 11:21:08:07]
Speaker 1
 I mean,

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Speaker 1
 you know who I am.

[11:21:10:08 - 11:21:18:13]
Speaker 2
 I made the mistake of putting writer-publisher on my bio, and so...

[11:21:19:15 - 11:21:28:05]
Speaker 2
 And written by K.L. Young is their name. So I'm sure they were all like, "Oh, who's this asshole?" "Nobody fuck you for liking this." And wanting Ben Affleck.

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Speaker 3
 What a strange universe. They must all be A.I. or bots. I mean, like, who would care that much? I don't like the internet.

[11:21:35:14 - 11:21:45:19]
Speaker 2
 I asked a better bot, because I was like, "Who are these people? So angry at this guy. I have like 1500 followers at zero posts." I think that's not a real human.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. I swear there are things that are just... I mean, of course there are things that are just to be divisive, to say angry statements to get you worked up, and then to click on an ad or whatever.

[11:21:56:14 - 11:22:01:09]
Speaker 1
 Wherever this is all going. All the bot buddies follow each other. Yeah. Yes.

[11:22:01:09 - 11:22:02:21]
Speaker 2
 Follow us up. I didn't interact.

[11:22:03:21 - 11:22:09:11]
Speaker 2
 Normally, I would go, "What the fuck's wrong with you?" But I was like, "You know what? I'm just going to step away from this."

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Speaker 3
 Unfortunately, I mean, I'm barely ever on any of the socials anymore. And so I get people all the time for like, "Oh, did you see that big guy sent you a message?" I'm like, "No."

[11:22:24:06 - 11:22:29:20]
Speaker 3
 "I did not. Sorry. Please don't contact me there. You have my phone number. Test me." Time to go.

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Speaker 2
 I've seen some stuff, guys. Some big stuff has happened since we last were talking. I think I'm going to talk about It. Welcome to Derry.

[11:22:40:23 - 11:22:42:19]
Speaker 3
 Okay. Okay. All right.

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Speaker 2
 Eric, have you seen any of it? I've seen the first episode. And Vanessa, you were caught up. I am caught up, yes.

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Speaker 3
 Okay.

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Speaker 3
 We did get to the military part.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. Yeah, I don't love that. Here's the problem. The kids part, I'm really enjoying. And the military part, I'm really upset.

[11:23:03:19 - 11:23:09:12]
Speaker 3
 Is it because of the character that is yanked from one property and put into this one? Or is it...

[11:23:09:12 - 11:23:11:15]
Speaker 2
 That does kind of bump me a bit.

[11:23:11:15 - 11:23:12:14]
Speaker 3
 It is a little weird.

[11:23:12:14 - 11:23:16:12]
Speaker 2
 Dick Holleran from The Shining is in this. Now, he is in the book yet.

[11:23:16:12 - 11:23:17:19]
Speaker 3
 Is he? Yeah.

[11:23:17:19 - 11:23:19:00]
Speaker 2
 Okay. Very small part.

[11:23:20:08 - 11:23:23:21]
Speaker 2
 But they have made him a much bigger part in this series.

[11:23:24:22 - 11:23:34:11]
Speaker 2
 They've done this kind of silly thing where the military is aware of Pennywise, and they're going to capture him and use him against the Russians, I guess.

[11:23:34:11 - 11:23:36:16]
Speaker 3
 I think that's true. Yeah. Yeah.

[11:23:36:16 - 11:23:47:08]
Speaker 2
 That's bizarre. And that just is such a... That takes away all the creep factor of Pennywise. If he is a known entity, then he's not nearly as scary, right?

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Speaker 3
 It's weird to me because I felt like there was a moment where the kids are trying to convince the adults that they saw something in the graveyard. And they're showing the police this evidence, and then the police are like, "Ha ha ha, you guys are full of shit." And I'm like, "When did the police and the military somehow be linked up in this small ass town about this thing that the military only exists to be there for?

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Speaker 3
 Wouldn't this... I thought that later there's a moment where a folder gets opened up from one of the military officials. I thought it was going to be the picture in there that the kids tried to show. And it was like, "Not." And I was like, "But I don't know what the point of these adults are either. I just... Is it so we as an audience, as adults who are watching it, have something to connect to because we can't possibly understand kids' lives or care about them?" That's so weird. I just don't know why we're spending so much time with so many groups of adults either.

[11:24:45:00 - 11:24:51:07]
Speaker 1
 You mentioned this as the possible movie for a storyline. So it immediately went back on by this.

[11:24:52:12 - 11:24:58:10]
Speaker 1
 It'll catch up with shit for 100 days. I'm finishing a piece where I could have played a few others, which I had.

[11:24:59:11 - 11:25:05:16]
Speaker 1
 And so it's like, "I'll see what YouTube has in coach for it."

[11:25:05:16 - 11:25:08:02]
Speaker 3
 I love the stuff. It makes it worth it.

[11:25:08:02 - 11:25:19:23]
Speaker 2
 The kid's stuff is definitely... It feels like it comes out of the book. I mean, it's scary. It's... There's unfortunately some very bad special effects of this. Some haunted mansion type of facts come up.

[11:25:19:23 - 11:25:20:03]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[11:25:21:03 - 11:25:28:03]
Speaker 3
 But at least the context, I think, of that haunted mansion style effect just makes it enough that you're like, "Fuck!"

[11:25:29:03 - 11:25:36:16]
Speaker 3
 That still looks goofy, but I'm sure for the person that experienced it, it is the absolute worst thing that could possibly happen to them.

[11:25:36:16 - 11:25:37:05]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[11:25:39:03 - 11:25:51:23]
Speaker 2
 That's the way it works, is it, praise on your darkest fear, right? So that's why having the adults, that was never something that he could do to the adults and tell the book of it, because the adults couldn't see anyways.

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Speaker 2
 And now we've got Mike Hamlin's dad, grandpa. Yeah, grandpa, the Air Force guy, he's seeing the floating balloons. And I'm like, "Okay." But he's also got something going on with his brain that he has like either Noah Maitula or shrunken Maitula, so he's got zero fear. Oh, I don't know. All of it is just a little more complicated than it needs to be.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah, it sounds like in this version, it chooses who it reveals itself to rather than like your kid or you have a certain understanding of the world and that allows you to see. It feels like the military being like, "Oh no, we woke it up. It wasn't supposed to know we were looking at it." Or whatever, like that, I don't know, it has different rules.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah, and the military is also aware of the 27 year cycle, which is kind of annoying. So, because they're talking about, "Oh, that happened in whatever, the fifth cycle or something like that." And I was like, "They have this much knowledge in this thing. This is not nearly as scary as it should be."

[11:27:01:04 - 11:27:05:07]
Speaker 1
 Maybe you guys should have dealt with it before it killed a whole bunch of kids.

[11:27:05:07 - 11:27:13:11]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, and then why would the new movie exist then? Like if the military's been tracking all of this stuff for an hour.

[11:27:13:11 - 11:28:02:02]
Speaker 2
 At the end of this series and the way the seasons are going to go, they're going to go backwards. So this is the most recent. Oh, so we're going to go- So this one has to end with them failing completely and none of this being known by anybody outside of us, us, or people because it then won't fit with the movie. So, I don't know. I mean, I kind of warmed to the Dick Hallerty character in this last episode I just watched which was before because he's, you know, in The Shining, he is a nice person and he understands that Danny is scared and he's like, "Here's what you have to do when this stuff happens." And we're seeing him as a soldier and maybe he was not very nice person as a young man. So, but I don't know. I'm sticking with it.

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Speaker 2
 It's just so crazy to me that this year alone,

[11:28:07:10 - 11:28:17:01]
Speaker 2
 four feature films, all of them at least good and two series based on Stephen King. Yeah. Good time to be a Stephen King.

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Speaker 3
 No kidding. I'm in the 90s. I like Stephen. So that's welcome to do that. I like Stephen. So

[11:28:23:10 - 11:28:28:03]
Speaker 2
 that's welcome to Derry. It is on HBO Max.

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Speaker 3
 Excellent. Well, I went to see The Running Man.

[11:28:35:19 - 11:28:46:22]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of Stephen King properties. Yeah. You know, I liked it very much. I have not read the book. I have seen the movie.

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Speaker 3
 I thought that they did a good job with this story. I don't know. I didn't feel disappointed. I didn't feel bored or like everything was super outlandish. I really like that actor who is now showing up and everything. Glenn Powell. Yes. Glenn Powell. I think he does an awesome job and I really like his character. And I think the best thing about it is it's,

[11:29:13:10 - 11:29:14:11]
Speaker 3
 she's the director.

[11:29:15:12 - 11:29:30:14]
Speaker 3
 Edgar Wright. The fact that Edgar Wright is kind of back makes me happy. It felt like a pretty good step for Edgar Wright. It didn't feel like Shaun the Dead, but it definitely feels better than what a boss thing was.

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Speaker 1
 You should remember that movie last night in Soho.

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Speaker 3
 Last night in Soho. Hold on. There was a couple of weird ones in there.

[11:29:40:17 - 11:29:42:06]
Speaker 2
 Baby Driver, which I loved also.

[11:29:42:06 - 11:29:48:09]
Speaker 3
 I loved Baby Driver. But this feels like him with a budget, which is really nice.

[11:29:48:09 - 11:29:53:01]
Speaker 2
 So it's a flop. Oh, sure. It's a massive flop, unfortunately.

[11:29:54:18 - 11:30:35:04]
Speaker 2
 I liked it well enough. It is pretty close to the book without the ending that would have probably roughing a lot of feathers. Yeah. But I'll tell you, my disappointment in it is not enough, Edgar Wright. Really? I felt like I was like, where are my cool camera angles at? And where's my, the humor in this is minimal, but it's not nearly as biting as he usually is. And I was like, wait, I think this really could have benefited from more Edgar Wright scripts. Interesting. So I mean, as far as Stephen King movies go, it's a nice adaptation. It's very well done.

[11:30:35:04 - 11:30:37:07]
Speaker 1
 Better than the Schwarzenegger version?

[11:30:37:07 - 11:30:38:05]
Speaker 2
 Well,

[11:30:39:05 - 11:30:44:03]
Speaker 2
 very different. I've got a lot of nostalgia and love for the Schwarzenegger version, which is nothing like the book.

[11:30:44:03 - 11:30:47:19]
Speaker 1
 Oh, yeah. I know. So. And corny as hell in so many ways.

[11:30:47:19 - 11:30:56:09]
Speaker 2
 And there's some nice cameos in this. Michael Serra's character, I was looking at him for about five minutes being part of the book. Is that like Serra?

[11:30:58:00 - 11:31:02:22]
Speaker 3
 I knew there was going to be an end from the trailer. So as soon as he popped up, I was like, there he is. Yeah. There he is.

[11:31:02:22 - 11:31:04:12]
Speaker 2
 And he had a great goal.

[11:31:05:15 - 11:31:09:07]
Speaker 2
 So I think there's a lot to liken it for sure. Yeah.

[11:31:10:12 - 11:31:13:20]
Speaker 2
 A real bummer that it is such a flop.

[11:31:13:20 - 11:31:26:13]
Speaker 3
 I'm so sad to hear that. That's that is a huge bummer. It's just it feels like low hanging fruit. Like you want to go the week to the movies and have a good time. It's right there for you. But whatever. I guess everybody's off seeing.

[11:31:27:18 - 11:31:40:15]
Speaker 3
 What get to isn't even out yet. Oh, no, it is now. Oh, yeah, you're you're right. Everyone is off saying. Right. It's good. Which according to my sister is not great, but it's fine. So I'll call the next day.

[11:31:40:15 - 11:31:42:02]
Speaker 1
 Speaking of it,

[11:31:43:09 - 11:32:04:10]
Speaker 1
 I was I just recently finished reading temporary's autobiography, which is a lot of fun to read. Kind of different style in that he talks about his childhood, but says fuck all about the rest of his personal life. It's all his business projects, all his stage stuff, his films, all the stuff, which I thought was really interesting.

[11:32:05:21 - 11:32:14:23]
Speaker 1
 Frankly, that's what I find more interesting. Most people in the movies and TV. I forgotten he was the original King Arthur and Spam.

[11:32:16:01 - 11:32:17:12]
Speaker 2
 Oh, I think I ever knew that.

[11:32:17:12 - 11:32:21:18]
Speaker 1
 He played him for five or six years, I think he said.

[11:32:22:22 - 11:32:32:09]
Speaker 1
 But he did and he did a lot more stage than I thought. He continued to do stage for almost his entire career. I realized one of the big films.

[11:32:33:15 - 11:33:00:02]
Speaker 1
 Productions of his I had never seen was it. What? Wait, you haven't seen. There's a period from 88 to about 92 when I first moved here, where I owned did not own a TV and was out of it. And there's a lot of like twin peaks. I didn't see until the late 90s early 2000s because of that. Anything in that era on TV. This is unrounded.

[11:33:00:02 - 11:33:03:09]
Speaker 3
 I cannot fathom this version of you.

[11:33:04:10 - 11:33:08:06]
Speaker 3
 The guy who's seen more content than any other human being I know alive.

[11:33:09:07 - 11:33:10:04]
Speaker 3
 I watched a lot of movies.

[11:33:11:10 - 11:33:13:05]
Speaker 3
 That's the years of her.

[11:33:15:23 - 11:33:17:10]
Speaker 1
 But she's probably.

[11:33:18:17 - 11:33:20:00]
Speaker 1
 Perfect. Anyways,

[11:33:21:13 - 11:33:47:20]
Speaker 1
 that's it's fun. Yeah, I really enjoy. The biggest problem I have with the movies is the same thing I've said before with the conure films where they ended this weird giant action act way over the top stuff. Start off nice, creepy, weird, and then just explode. It's not an action. You don't have to make bigger set pieces. It's just continue on. You just need to keep the tension building,

[11:33:48:23 - 11:33:57:10]
Speaker 1
 which I kind of do in this as a TV show. But Tim Curry's at times unrecognizable, which I thought was really interesting.

[11:33:58:16 - 11:34:40:01]
Speaker 1
 And it's a messed up. The treatment of the kids. It's something like that. It's like the abuse and the. Mastiness coming from the adults in this is really powerful. I thought added an element that felt softened in the newer movies. Yes, I'm not saying they don't have any of that, but it's just not as rough as some of these. You know, the lines of like your 12 and you're screwing boys now or something like that already. It's like, I said, you're done. Yeah, but I mean, the ending is.

[11:34:41:19 - 11:34:53:00]
Speaker 1
 It's also not so great in this one. That's quite a giant. You're bad effect spiders. Yeah, but overall, I thought it was fun. Watch.

[11:34:54:08 - 11:35:03:19]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, it's starting to seem really good. Anyways as well, but I like Tim Curry's more. Yeah, creepy subtleness that he has.

[11:35:03:19 - 11:35:10:00]
Speaker 2
 There's also, you know, Tim Curry looks like a clown until he doesn't. And anyways, never really looks like a clown. He looks like a monster.

[11:35:10:00 - 11:35:32:12]
Speaker 1
 No, yeah, he's scary. So from that first drain pipe seems like, oh, Jesus. Yeah, no kids going into. From that guy. Yeah, because Tim Curry's vocal stuff and things is a little inviting, a little more like, hi, I'm a cop. Let's have fun. And, and, you know, spread your thought. I'm going to get down. He's like, come here, child.

[11:35:34:02 - 11:35:39:18]
Speaker 2
 Well, I have to find the watch. Yeah, that is a big one to not have watched.

[11:35:39:18 - 11:35:44:10]
Speaker 3
 No kidding. Not three kings in a row. Well, I'm going

[11:35:44:10 - 11:35:58:20]
Speaker 2
 to talk about the other big thing that everybody was talking about. Then he owned Del Toro's Frankenstein. Netflix really gorgeous looking. Yeah,

[11:36:00:00 - 11:36:01:10]
Speaker 2
 very interesting. He had a patient.

[11:36:02:20 - 11:36:08:21]
Speaker 2
 You guys both watched it. Yes, you guys both loved it. It was in ways. I tried to watch it a second time.

[11:36:10:12 - 11:36:11:05]
Speaker 2
 And I was like, Oh, no.

[11:36:11:05 - 11:36:24:23]
Speaker 1
 I think you may have had reaction. It was kind of like your reaction in those for us. It's like, this is so solidly. Mary Shelley's Frankenstein that there is, I feel no discovery in the story.

[11:36:26:18 - 11:36:30:04]
Speaker 1
 Everything else. Amazing performances. Yeah.

[11:36:30:04 - 11:36:36:16]
Speaker 2
 Look, she's like, Holy shit. Yeah, I was really swept up in the performances.

[11:36:37:16 - 11:36:52:23]
Speaker 2
 The sets and all of that stuff. What I missed the first time around was, I guess, and full disclosure, I never finished the book. I was given the book at a very young age and it was too much for me. And so I never went back to it.

[11:36:52:23 - 11:36:53:03]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[11:36:55:11 - 11:37:00:02]
Speaker 2
 But I missed that romance between Victor.

[11:37:02:19 - 11:37:04:09]
Speaker 2
 His picture sells around Elizabeth.

[11:37:05:14 - 11:37:19:17]
Speaker 2
 And then kind of the monster coming between me. And I don't, I have no idea if that's part of the book or not. So it could be that, you know, I've just come up with that and I love that in my Frankenstein. But here's what I noticed on the second time.

[11:37:21:01 - 11:37:44:12]
Speaker 2
 That first section where Victor is telling his story, it's so goddamn interesting. And then the monster shows up and he's like, all right. I know we're racing headlong into the third act, but I would like to slow everything down and tell you the same story from my point of view. And I just was like, boom, I am suddenly bored as hell.

[11:37:45:17 - 11:37:51:03]
Speaker 1
 That was about the time too that like, oh, well, I know what his story is going to be. Yeah. And it was.

[11:37:52:14 - 11:37:57:06]
Speaker 1
 It's like, but it's, it's impossible to hate on this movie. No, sure.

[11:37:57:06 - 11:38:09:22]
Speaker 2
 It's so cool looking and the monster is so interesting looking and Oscar Isaac is just so great. I don't think he's a particular handsome guy, but then the right light is like the most handsome guy.

[11:38:09:22 - 11:38:17:05]
Speaker 3
 It's crazy. It's crazy. I agree. And you're like, Oh no, you're like, we like that. Like, that's a bummer.

[11:38:17:05 - 11:38:18:08]
Speaker 1
 Sorry about that.

[11:38:18:08 - 11:38:19:13]
Speaker 3
 So just glue

[11:38:19:13 - 11:38:30:12]
Speaker 1
 that right on back. Here's a weird side note that Prince Darklight getting would hear about probably the del Toro's inspiration for a lot of the shots and a lot of stuff was Prince videos.

[11:38:30:12 - 11:38:31:09]
Speaker 3
 Really?

[11:38:31:09 - 11:38:51:18]
Speaker 1
 And so I saw one of the print sites I'm on broke down and he's del Toro did say this. It's not the guy just look at all this. I think he he said, yeah, he was. And then they go through and they go see this scene in this video. And there's the shot of him laying in the bed, which right out of a dungeon crack and just like, that's weird.

[11:38:51:18 - 11:38:53:07]
Speaker 3
 What a strange.

[11:38:54:13 - 11:39:07:15]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, it was interesting because I definitely felt like as far as Del Toro projects go, it was not in my top three or four. Yeah. For the book. Just enough of look around.

[11:39:08:22 - 11:39:44:04]
Speaker 3
 Look wise. I mean, it at least had more substance than Crimson Peak, which is beautiful and for sure. And you know, this this I got really excited in the streets of London when like the women's dresses are just disgusting on the bottom and they're walking across planks. And I was like, yeah, that's accurate. And like all the blood just in the street. Nobody cares. I'm like, yeah, that's that's nice. Like there's so much beautiful interest in set design. But I also was like, I don't know. It just doesn't feel like a super solid story. It's not wrong. It's just.

[11:39:44:04 - 11:39:50:23]
Speaker 1
 Well, it's one we've heard so much before. Kind of like when you're not last year, most fraud to when we're talking about. We need another track.

[11:39:50:23 - 11:39:51:12]
Speaker 2
 Right.

[11:39:54:16 - 11:40:17:03]
Speaker 3
 The most shocking thing out of this film is definitely that I looked at the credits from the guy who plays Frankenstein. I was like, it's the dude from the kissing booth on Netflix, which I've seen the kissing booth one, two, and I think three. And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm glad he can act. I never knew I really genuinely was surprised.

[11:40:17:03 - 11:40:20:04]
Speaker 1
 I watched even three movies. Must be some kind of.

[11:40:21:13 - 11:40:37:22]
Speaker 3
 Now I just look really trashy teen romances. I will watch a pretty bad one for no reason. But yeah, and I hadn't realized that he was in Salburn, which I hadn't seen. He's obviously getting picked up to do a lot of stuff. It sounds like he might even be the next James Bond. So I don't know.

[11:40:38:23 - 11:40:43:22]
Speaker 3
 But it's it's interesting. He he did. I think he did an incredible job.

[11:40:43:22 - 11:41:15:11]
Speaker 2
 There's there's also that that part that you kind of step out as either as a writer or just a film watcher where you're like, OK, the movie starts off with this guy showing up and killing several of the crew members. Right. And then in the middle, once we've heard his story, they haven't heard his story. But we have the monster shows back up and they're all like, all right, let him pass. And I was like, wouldn't you all be like, hey, the fuck is this guy doing?

[11:41:15:11 - 11:41:23:04]
Speaker 3
 The captain says let him pass. And we have heard the story and everyone else is like, fuck, all right.

[11:41:23:04 - 11:41:32:02]
Speaker 2
 I'd be like, burn it. No, we're not burning past. It also Frankenstein, I think, heals himself.

[11:41:33:04 - 11:41:33:09]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[11:41:35:00 - 11:41:36:21]
Speaker 2
 Interesting. I don't know if that's part of the original story.

[11:41:36:21 - 11:41:38:20]
Speaker 3
 I know that magical.

[11:41:38:20 - 11:41:48:11]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I know that like in the original story, she does not explain how he is brought to life. So none of the electricity, all that stuff comes from.

[11:41:51:13 - 11:42:30:01]
Speaker 2
 So there might be a little more magical in the original story. I don't know. I'm waiting for somebody who was a huge Frankenstein fan to call up at two, five, three, two, three, seven, four, two, six, six and say, Kelly, this is all in the book. And I will just say, okay, fair enough. But the 1860 storytelling is not 20, 25 storytelling. Things have to be fixed. Yeah. Yeah. True. So Frankenstein really gorgeous. At least, you know, I've got to watch it once. That's the other thing. I was like, okay, I can watch the devil's backbone every year. They all be watching this.

[11:42:30:01 - 11:42:41:14]
Speaker 3
 That's exactly. I was, I thought the same thing. I was like, Pan's Labyrinth was incredible. There's so much in there and it's so very watchable if you want to be really sad.

[11:42:43:02 - 11:42:50:04]
Speaker 3
 But this, I was like, I don't know. Maybe I'll see if I'm first time. I'm not sure. I don't need to own it. Well, I mean, I'll probably will own it, but like Netflix.

[11:42:50:04 - 11:42:51:12]
Speaker 1
 So you may not get the option.

[11:42:51:12 - 11:42:57:22]
Speaker 3
 I know. Netflix. Jesus. Earn a little more cash. Even if it's not much, just give us something.

[11:42:57:22 - 11:43:00:21]
Speaker 1
 You put movies in theaters, you can bring movies to.

[11:43:00:21 - 11:43:02:10]
Speaker 3
 So 4k.

[11:43:02:10 - 11:43:07:04]
Speaker 1
 Especially when you say 20,000 runners. I'm

[11:43:07:04 - 11:43:10:21]
Speaker 3
 sure they can make the K-pop demon hunter vinyl in like four different.

[11:43:12:00 - 11:43:14:10]
Speaker 3
 Like covers. Come on.

[11:43:14:10 - 11:43:19:16]
Speaker 1
 They can easily. They just don't. I'm sure they're thinking of steel viewers from Netflix.

[11:43:20:20 - 11:43:24:08]
Speaker 3
 Oh, that's the stupidest shit. Yeah, that's that is very.

[11:43:24:08 - 11:43:27:05]
Speaker 2
 There are people who are.

[11:43:29:17 - 11:43:34:06]
Speaker 2
 Not the most trustworthy who are making really nice quality.

[11:43:35:07 - 11:43:40:11]
Speaker 2
 Physical copies of Frankenstein. If that's something. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's not.

[11:43:42:06 - 11:43:46:02]
Speaker 2
 They're very high quality 5k. So stupid.

[11:43:46:02 - 11:43:47:21]
Speaker 3
 The of it, you know, that's the first

[11:43:47:21 - 11:43:52:19]
Speaker 1
 version of the college. Probably one to say to no one.

[11:43:54:12 - 11:43:59:00]
Speaker 2
 Certainly don't have all the original Star Wars. The special at is 5k.

[11:43:59:00 - 11:44:00:14]
Speaker 3
 Yes, I do have that.

[11:44:02:12 - 11:44:06:12]
Speaker 3
 I mean, I don't have that. That doesn't make sense. We're not. Yeah.

[11:44:07:23 - 11:44:27:15]
Speaker 3
 Well, I saw a film. Did you know you guys see Joker led you or followed? I found the thriller political thriller equivalent of this movie, which is House of Dynamite, the Catherine Bigelow film out on.

[11:44:28:21 - 11:44:29:23]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, so.

[11:44:29:23 - 11:44:31:18]
Speaker 3
 So are

[11:44:31:18 - 11:44:33:03]
Speaker 2
 you saying that it's not good?

[11:44:34:08 - 11:44:46:17]
Speaker 3
 It is a film that is very intriguing and built and you're really kind of in the in it for the ride. And then you get to the end of your realize it was only a ride. Oh, it is.

[11:44:47:19 - 11:45:12:16]
Speaker 3
 It's infuriating. You get spoilers for people out there. You get to the end and there is no end. And it's like, what the fuck did I waste the last couple hours of my life for? You just abandoned your project because you didn't want to make a choice. And that pisses me off a lot. Yeah, it was I think it was pretty good storytelling. It was an interesting concept of.

[11:45:14:08 - 11:45:17:03]
Speaker 3
 Are we made at the US? They're going to destroy Chicago.

[11:45:18:10 - 11:45:54:20]
Speaker 3
 We think we don't get to the point where we see it explode. There is a very vague idea that maybe it's not real. It's not. It just can't quite tell because of emerging a technology and all kinds of stuff. And so the question is, OK, what do we do? Do we strike back against where we think it's coming from before it even lands? You know, what what what actions are taken and you see it through a bunch of different people's point of view and then you follow these people and then it's like, bye. Thanks. Hope you enjoyed this story.

[11:45:55:20 - 11:45:57:17]
Speaker 1
 It's not an intentionally ambiguous ending.

[11:45:57:17 - 11:46:05:13]
Speaker 3
 Nope, they just stop. They just stop. They're just like it's I wouldn't I mean, yeah, it's ambiguous and that there is no ending.

[11:46:07:05 - 11:46:32:10]
Speaker 3
 But I was just very pissed when I was like, this is what people who watched Joker felt like. It was it just feels like I don't know why I mean, I guess I can't say I wasted my money, but I definitely wasted my time on it. So it makes me really question how good of a filmmaker, how from the below is in moments like this, where it's like all you had to do was make a choice. All you had to do is decide. It doesn't have to be you can still leave a shit ton ambiguous.

[11:46:33:21 - 11:46:45:03]
Speaker 3
 You could have decided how to react. You could have decided what had actually happened. You could have decided on any character's final reaction to the situation. But no, you just go away. So it's also dynamite.

[11:46:45:03 - 11:46:48:02]
Speaker 2
 No, it sounds like a strong recommendation.

[11:46:49:12 - 11:47:12:02]
Speaker 3
 If you want if you want to be on a run with no no conclusion, by all means, please check it out. If you're curious, if you're a Catherine Bigelow completionist, please check it out. But it's got a crazy incredible cast. It's got like every single teeny tiny bit role as a famous person. You're like fucking Idris Elba is the president. Cool. That's crazy.

[11:47:12:02 - 11:47:13:13]
Speaker 2
 I would vote for him.

[11:47:13:13 - 11:47:17:06]
Speaker 3
 I would easily vote for him. I don't even know his politics.

[11:47:18:15 - 11:47:19:23]
Speaker 2
 That was probably very British.

[11:47:19:23 - 11:47:26:00]
Speaker 1
 Probably very dreamy sounding though he said that. That was awesome. I would definitely vote for him.

[11:47:27:15 - 11:47:28:19]
Speaker 3
 Like he's a dreamy fellow.

[11:47:30:17 - 11:47:51:02]
Speaker 1
 All righty, so early on in the 100 days, I was recommended a movie by I don't remember for sure. It was like, Jonah, July. But I put it on my list and came back to it and watched Penny O's Fierce Dudes. Dudes. Okay. From 1987,

[11:47:52:10 - 11:48:04:12]
Speaker 1
 starting John Cryer and Daniel Robach as punks like music punks in New York who decided they're going to hate it there in New York and done with it. And oh, it flee.

[11:48:05:17 - 11:48:06:06]
Speaker 3
 Okay.

[11:48:06:06 - 11:48:09:21]
Speaker 1
 And they decide the three of them are going to drive to LA

[11:48:10:22 - 11:48:35:15]
Speaker 1
 and they make it, I think I'm not sure exactly where they end up. It's like kind of Utah looking. It's a fast drive from New York to suddenly there in my barren lands, but they're out camping and run into a bunch of assholes who end up like killing Flea. Well, which for a movie, it's a good shot. It's not exactly dynamic.

[11:48:37:10 - 11:48:46:14]
Speaker 1
 But so then the rest of the thing is Cryer has been feeling lost. So he's going to make up for it. I have a mission now. I'm going to get revenge for me. Frank killed.

[11:48:48:00 - 11:49:09:23]
Speaker 1
 It's pretty stupid movie. Surprisingly violent for a movie that just sort of starts off with her punks and we're cool. And I don't know. I enjoyed it. It's really, really solid, good late eighties kind of movie. You know, that we talked about occasionally, I can't move in. This doesn't get made anymore.

[11:49:11:01 - 11:49:19:12]
Speaker 1
 And it's so I would say if you have any interest in serious work, John Cryer definitely check it out. Why? I've never heard of this.

[11:49:19:12 - 11:49:19:22]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, same.

[11:49:19:22 - 11:49:28:13]
Speaker 1
 I recognized it from Suncoast where I saw thousands of box art movies and never watched it.

[11:49:28:13 - 11:49:32:07]
Speaker 3
 Is it actually is it actually a horror movie?

[11:49:32:07 - 11:49:35:21]
Speaker 1
 No, that's why I put it on the watch afterwards. It's straightforward.

[11:49:38:08 - 11:49:38:18]
Speaker 1
 Friends.

[11:49:39:19 - 11:49:40:00]
Speaker 1
 Dude.

[11:49:41:20 - 11:49:42:06]
Speaker 1
 Pro fans.

[11:49:45:03 - 11:49:47:04]
Speaker 2
 Dudes. What'd you watch that on?

[11:49:49:15 - 11:49:56:02]
Speaker 1
 The camasager. Okay. Something like that. Easy to stream. Yeah. There's Prime, the Roku channel.

[11:49:56:02 - 11:50:00:08]
Speaker 3
 Everything's on a Roku channel. I thought about cheating.

[11:50:00:08 - 11:50:06:13]
Speaker 2
 Alright, dudes. How about we take a little break and when we come back, we're going to be talking about dreams.

[11:50:10:05 - 11:50:23:23]
Speaker 2
 Taking that into the restroom with me.

[11:50:23:23 - 11:50:28:23]
Speaker 3
 There are surprises for Eric later. That.

[11:50:37:05 - 11:50:38:04]
Speaker 4
 Oh, my God.

[11:50:43:13 - 11:50:45:00]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[11:50:46:04 - 11:50:52:20]
Speaker 3
 My daughter's in daycare three days a week and I spent all three of our sleep there. Oh, that's good. Yeah.

[11:50:52:20 - 11:50:55:09]
Speaker 1
 You got something out of the experience.

[11:50:55:09 - 11:51:02:18]
Speaker 3
 Oh, sure. Yes. If I'm not working, which I should have been working, but I did break the yard. So that happened to.

[11:51:02:18 - 11:51:04:19]
Speaker 1
 Oh, it's unfortunately.

[11:51:06:02 - 11:51:08:10]
Speaker 1
 Yeah,

[11:51:14:14 - 11:51:16:04]
Speaker 3
 you get a really big.

[11:51:18:00 - 11:51:20:12]
Speaker 3
 2%

[11:51:22:14 - 11:51:23:12]
Speaker 1
 of battery used.

[11:51:27:09 - 11:51:28:16]
Speaker 3
 Does it say it like.

[11:51:28:16 - 11:51:33:02]
Speaker 1
 I know you put this. You put it in here and the stuff is.

[11:51:33:02 - 11:51:35:00]
Speaker 3
 Oh, it tells you. Okay.

[11:51:36:13 - 11:51:38:12]
Speaker 1
 This is the thing that goes on top of the camera.

[11:51:40:16 - 11:51:41:08]
Speaker 1
 Really fancy.

[11:51:42:15 - 11:51:44:15]
Speaker 1
 Does similar job.

[11:51:44:15 - 11:51:47:06]
Speaker 3
 Were you able to sell the last thing?

[11:51:47:06 - 11:51:49:01]
Speaker 1
 So one of them from.

[11:51:52:00 - 11:51:52:15]
Speaker 1
 The other one.

[11:51:55:16 - 11:51:56:06]
Speaker 1
 There's also 100.

[11:52:05:05 - 11:52:07:10]
Speaker 3
 Oh, yeah.

[11:52:08:17 - 11:52:12:17]
Speaker 3
 Um, I still have a piggy for you. That one though. So I think somebody.

[11:52:14:10 - 11:52:15:22]
Speaker 3
 Send me a text or like.

[11:52:19:05 - 11:52:19:22]
Speaker 3
 That's the problem.

[11:52:27:05 - 11:52:28:12]
Speaker 2
 I'm watching a.

[11:52:29:23 - 11:52:30:18]
Speaker 2
 I think it's an old.

[11:52:32:02 - 11:52:36:17]
Speaker 2
 Sonic documentary on Star Wars called the center or Star Trek called the center seat.

[11:52:36:17 - 11:52:37:12]
Speaker 3
 Oh, yeah.

[11:52:38:17 - 11:52:47:17]
Speaker 2
 And I'm just like, holy shit. Didn't realize that. Jean was so disliked through most of the Star Trek videos of alcoholic.

[11:52:49:02 - 11:52:57:23]
Speaker 3
 I did not know that either. I've seen Kat captains and I think I've seen one of the other ones, but I have not seen.

[11:52:57:23 - 11:53:13:12]
Speaker 2
 It's not really interesting. I don't know how many episodes it is, but I'm on episode four and we have only made it up to Raffa. Fuck. Yeah. Every episode about Jean. About Star Trek. Okay. It's called 55 years of Star Trek or something. Oh, yeah.

[11:53:16:20 - 11:53:18:03]
Speaker 1
 I'll take it off anyways. But I.

[11:53:23:09 - 11:53:23:17]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[11:53:25:04 - 11:53:27:20]
Speaker 2
 Talking to talk about the writer on.

[11:53:29:05 - 11:53:29:10]
Speaker 2
 The.

[11:53:30:20 - 11:53:39:04]
Speaker 2
 On the motion picture, which was supposed to be the pilot or start your phase two, a television show. And.

[11:53:40:16 - 11:53:52:21]
Speaker 2
 And he's just just constantly swearing. Oh, fucking Gene Roddenberry goes and rewrites the script. It's a piece of shit. I thought garbage and all the stuff. I was like, Oh, I thought it would love to be. Nope.

[11:53:52:21 - 11:53:54:21]
Speaker 3
 That's interesting. Yeah. Heard.

[11:53:55:23 - 11:54:10:09]
Speaker 3
 I like guested on a couple of like podcasts about Star Trek. And so they people were saying stuff that it sounded like Jean Roddenberry maybe was like racist at times. It's not based

[11:54:10:09 - 11:54:13:15]
Speaker 2
 on the scuffies. It's not going to put in his show.

[11:54:13:15 - 11:54:20:16]
Speaker 3
 I know. Yeah. It's really wild. So I don't know what was happening because then I also read the.

[11:54:21:21 - 11:54:26:20]
Speaker 3
 The Oatmeal comic about Jean Roddenberry and how he like was in a plane crash.

[11:54:28:01 - 11:54:35:03]
Speaker 3
 It was really inspiring. He sounded like he was the best human being alive. Then it's like, but she's like, maybe he wasn't.

[11:54:36:13 - 11:54:42:10]
Speaker 2
 By the path of common paramount basically said you're no longer involved. If you want to still be involved.

[11:54:42:10 - 11:54:46:00]
Speaker 3
 You know, he was really heavily like pushed away.

[11:54:46:00 - 11:55:03:16]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Because because by whatever Rathakan is what he too, they said basically we're giving you an office. You are what generously be called a high paid script consultant for Valon. But you don't get input into movies or any of that shit. It's like, wow.

[11:55:06:20 - 11:55:08:21]
Speaker 1
 I'm sure that made it much nicer and less bitter.

[11:55:11:09 - 11:55:12:07]
Speaker 3
 They paid off.

[11:55:13:17 - 11:55:16:17]
Speaker 3
 Okay. So I'm going first. Jesus.

[11:55:17:17 - 11:55:19:16]
Speaker 3
 You guys do get out.

[11:55:21:21 - 11:55:22:20]
Speaker 2
 How about I go after you?

[11:55:22:20 - 11:55:32:15]
Speaker 3
 I can tell I wasn't feeling good when I start being the most. Because Candy Man is spelled candy man made in the end.

[11:55:32:15 - 11:55:33:22]
Speaker 2
 And it's defined.

[11:55:37:21 - 11:55:53:18]
Speaker 3
 Addy Indiana Jones. Excellent. Are you ready? Well, let me make this. Someone's going to zoom in. Oh, that's pretty good. I see. You zoom in. All right. Perfect. I'm good. I'm good. Okay. Good. Good.

[11:55:53:18 - 11:55:54:17]
Speaker 4
 Good.

[11:55:57:21 - 11:56:00:22]
Speaker 2
 And we are back. Vanessa, this was your sub genre.

[11:56:00:22 - 11:56:12:23]
Speaker 3
 Yes. Dreams. Dreams. Well, you know, sometimes it's fun when you discover a film that has a really cool dream sequence in it to try and figure out how to make you guys watch a movie. All right.

[11:56:14:06 - 11:56:19:18]
Speaker 3
 So streams, nightmares, whatever, you know, tickled your fancy.

[11:56:21:09 - 11:56:24:04]
Speaker 2
 Guess that means you will go first and I'm saving you five minutes.

[11:56:24:04 - 11:56:29:17]
Speaker 3
 Um, so I went with a movie that I seen a couple weeks back called Paper House.

[11:56:31:04 - 11:56:53:20]
Speaker 3
 This is from 1988. Sounds like people have seen it. Fucking what? All right. It was 36 credits including Handyman, the 2015 Frankenstein, which I had never even heard of. Immortal Beloved and also worked on the Muppet show in the Great Muppet Paper in Dark Crystal as like a gopher, which is like a runner.

[11:56:55:09 - 11:57:19:03]
Speaker 3
 Written by Catherine Starr, who's a TV writer, Matthew Jacobs, who did a lot of episodes of Young Adventures of Indiana Jones, which kind of tracks for the story of this, starring Charlotte Burke as Anna, who never acted again. However, I saw on her IMDB that she's a successful online business, has a successful online business called Lottie Nottie. She sells and designs handcrafted hair clips for children.

[11:57:20:14 - 11:57:22:03]
Speaker 3
 Elliot Spears, who played Mark.

[11:57:23:07 - 11:57:28:10]
Speaker 3
 He was in Six Things. He placed a little boy in this. He didn't do a lot after because he died.

[11:57:29:22 - 11:57:51:15]
Speaker 3
 Ben Cross. He placed a dad in this. He is the most recognizable, has 103 credits and including being Seric in Star Trek from 2009 and Prince Charles in William and Kate TV movie. And Glenn Hadley, who was the person I recognized most. She plays the mother in this. 77 credits, including Mr. Holland's Opus, Dirty Run Scoundrels, and an ER, lots of TV.

[11:57:52:17 - 11:58:02:06]
Speaker 3
 So the story follows Anna, who is a selfish, horrible 11 year old bully living in London. After she gets detention from school on her birthday for bowling,

[11:58:03:06 - 11:58:20:23]
Speaker 3
 she passes out in the hall and when her lovely, lovely, wonderful mom comes and picks her up and says, hey, we got to go see the doctor before I give you your gift of going on a pony ride. The girl says, oh, I faked it. Yeah, it wasn't real. And so her mom drives her promptly back to school.

[11:58:22:06 - 11:58:49:06]
Speaker 3
 There she finds her vest and they skip. They go and hang out in an abandoned train station where they play hide and seek. And she passes out while hiding. There's a huge search that is undertaken. And when they pick up Anna, they find she has a really awful fever. They take her home and she falls in and out of consciousness across several weeks, I think, with a really terrible fever. Each time she falls asleep, she finds herself in a drawing. She had started at school of a house.

[11:58:50:12 - 11:59:36:12]
Speaker 3
 When she wakes up, she adds new things to the drawing. And next time she falls asleep, she finds what has changed. In one of them, she draws an unhappy face of somebody in a window and she goes to her dream and finds a young boy named Mark who suffers from muscular dystrophy upstairs. And he's unable to leave the room. So she draws him some stairs and he's like, that won't help. When awake, she discovers her doctor is treating the boy and he's actually close to death. So she chooses to spend more and more time in the stream world, eventually adding in her father, who she adores, but is actually an alcoholic. She accidentally draws him on the paper angry, so crosses it out over his eyes. And when she dreams, he is furious and blind and basically a raging monster. He attacks her with a hammer.

[11:59:37:15 - 12:00:00:09]
Speaker 3
 Mark and her work together to defeat her father and escape. They begin to kind of fall in love with each other. And then Anna awakens in a hospital. Her father has returned from a work trip in real life and wants to make amends. He wants to take her to the seaside on a trip with her mother. And there she finds the place where she and Mark had said that they would meet up in their dream. Will she find him there?

[12:00:01:23 - 12:00:17:21]
Speaker 3
 This is the craziest, batshit insane film I've seen. Despite feeling kind of cheap and sparse in places, it's also filled with a strange imagination and it's super engaging and watchable. It has the feeling in some ways like pan-sauce breath.

[12:00:19:05 - 12:01:18:03]
Speaker 3
 Even though the lead is an incredibly unlikeable character, she's so entrancing. Her eyes are this beautiful shade of blue. There's just something about her expressions. And although maybe her acting isn't incredible, she has this natural energy and charisma that you just can't stop looking at. I was surprised because usually this would really turn me off and I'd be pissed, but she was great. The dream world she builds is so unique, so original, so dark and terrifying. And her obsession with what is going on there and making it better and better with her childish drawings, which then became oversized grotesque stares and strange radios and crazy props is just so unique looking. Her monster drunk father is insane and scary as fuck and the ending is bonkers. And super down for it. A little bit of trivia. The tagline, a dream that became a dream, a dream that became reality. When it was decided two days before the film was theatrically released that the character of Kate, her mom,

[12:01:20:06 - 12:01:22:23]
Speaker 2
 God damn.

[12:01:24:03 - 12:01:25:04]
Speaker 2
 All right.

[12:01:26:21 - 12:01:34:21]
Speaker 3
 That the character of Kate, her mom, should be British. The American actress Glenn Headley had to very quickly dub all of her dialogue using an English accent.

[12:01:36:07 - 12:01:48:13]
Speaker 3
 Stanley Myers received a composer credit, though his score was rejected by the producers for not having enough edge. Hans Zimmer was working as Myers assistant at the time and insisted that he could properly score the movie in time for its release.

[12:01:49:15 - 12:02:14:02]
Speaker 3
 Of course, within a couple of years Zimmer would then become one of the most sought after composers in Hollywood. And his popularity continues to this day. Although typically marketed as horror on the internet, Paperhouse was intended to be a children's fantasy film and was marketed such throughout the 80s and 90s. The book basis by Catherine Starr, Mary Ann Dreams, was written as a classic fantasy novel with a coming of age genre elements thrown in.

[12:02:15:03 - 12:02:27:08]
Speaker 3
 It is definitely a horror film. I don't know. Like this is this is dark as fuck. I can't imagine watching this and be like, it's just a gentle fantasy. Yeah. Like it's pretty fucked up.

[12:02:27:08 - 12:02:34:09]
Speaker 2
 So yeah, I remember seeing this in the theater. Uptown 45. Oh, shit. Um,

[12:02:35:19 - 12:02:40:04]
Speaker 2
 and was it really supposed to be a kids? Because I think it was really the heart.

[12:02:40:04 - 12:02:57:19]
Speaker 3
 I don't know. I didn't find anything about that other than like I saw this long tirade about why it's children's movie and how it doesn't have any like gore and it doesn't have any this and doesn't have any that. And I just got so mad. I stopped reading because I didn't. It's creepy. It's really scary.

[12:02:57:19 - 12:03:00:11]
Speaker 1
 Serious heavy story. Yeah.

[12:03:00:11 - 12:03:14:14]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Like she to defeat her dad. I think she lights him on fire and throws him in lava or something. So I'm like, it's not like super gentle. Not like a nice little unicorn. So it's

[12:03:14:14 - 12:03:22:23]
Speaker 1
 one of those ratings that helps to find the obscure mature situations as a rating reason. Yeah.

[12:03:24:00 - 12:03:28:05]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. There's no gore. There's no sex. There's no nudity, but there's some stuff.

[12:03:28:05 - 12:03:30:02]
Speaker 3
 Come on on. Exactly. Exactly.

[12:03:30:02 - 12:03:47:00]
Speaker 2
 Okay. Although peek behind the curtains here, because Vanessa, you had told Eric that you wanted to talk about this movie and you were going to make some kind of sub genre and he talked you into turning it into dreams. So it would be easy for us to find what did you originally want the sub genre to be?

[12:03:47:00 - 12:03:49:08]
Speaker 3
 Oh my God, Eric. What did I say? What did I say?

[12:03:49:08 - 12:03:49:22]
Speaker 1
 Arts and crafts.

[12:03:49:22 - 12:03:50:20]
Speaker 3
 It's a cross.

[12:03:51:21 - 12:03:54:13]
Speaker 3
 Yes. Arts and crafts. Hey, I don't think it's terrible.

[12:03:54:13 - 12:03:57:13]
Speaker 1
 It wouldn't be terrible. I'm sure we could have made it work.

[12:03:57:13 - 12:04:09:06]
Speaker 3
 I mean, kind of. Why? Anything like what's the one with the boxes and the guy has like makes all the boxes in his house. Yeah. See, you can do something with that. So I write off my comment.

[12:04:09:06 - 12:04:10:00]
Speaker 1
 I thought it too.

[12:04:13:10 - 12:04:16:06]
Speaker 3
 One of which has definitely been discussed on the show.

[12:04:17:12 - 12:04:19:01]
Speaker 2
 I will go next Eric, if you don't mind.

[12:04:20:04 - 12:04:35:00]
Speaker 2
 Enjoy myself five minutes and I'm talking about Frank make part two. 1988 directed by Tommy Lee Wallace who directed the mini series. Yeah. Halloween three, the best Halloween and vampires. Most white dose.

[12:04:36:00 - 12:04:58:13]
Speaker 2
 Tom Holland is getting a written on written by credit, but that's because based on his characters, the first right name, Tim Metcalf and Miguel Tejeda Flores, whose names you may recognize from haunting in Connecticut, California, revenge of the nerds, screamers, beyond reanimator, Frank Saizami. Those guys are also listed as writers.

[12:04:59:21 - 12:05:04:04]
Speaker 2
 Starring. Roddy McDowell 270 credits, man.

[12:05:05:07 - 12:05:10:12]
Speaker 2
 Fright night. Of course, pretty maids all on a row. Bedknobs and broomsticks. A very horrifying.

[12:05:12:10 - 12:05:14:17]
Speaker 3
 Anything with aims of the land. Very curious.

[12:05:14:17 - 12:05:23:19]
Speaker 2
 It's an adventure of legend, hell house. And of course, in her cornea, this implanted of the age and all of its equals and 14 episodes of the TV series.

[12:05:24:20 - 12:05:44:08]
Speaker 2
 Also, and this is William Ragsdale, surprising his will open first one. He was in night using pizza. My heart and Renfield and then the gorgeous Julie Carmen, who it was in night of the juggler that Malagro Beanfield war and in the mouth of Venice, of course.

[12:05:45:12 - 12:05:51:06]
Speaker 2
 Also in this Tracy Lynn, John Grease, Russell Clark, and from Thompson. You guys have seen pregnant part two.

[12:05:51:06 - 12:05:52:00]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, nope.

[12:05:52:00 - 12:05:54:21]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Oh, it's wonderful.

[12:05:56:05 - 12:05:57:04]
Speaker 3
 Spoiler. Spoiler.

[12:05:58:05 - 12:06:08:18]
Speaker 2
 A movie begins three years after the events in the original Fright Night, and Charlie is attending college and now believes that Jerry Gander was nothing but a serial killer posing as a vampire.

[12:06:09:18 - 12:06:22:21]
Speaker 2
 In fact, due to extensive therapy, Charlie has come to believe that there's absolutely no such thing as vampires. Well, he brings his new girlfriend Alex to have dinner at the house with Peter Vincent, who has gone back to hosting his late night horror show. Right.

[12:06:24:04 - 12:06:33:19]
Speaker 2
 And he lets Peter talk about vampires and such, but he and his girlfriend, Ken Jen, is knowing, look, they're like, oh boy, you know, poor Peter. He hasn't gotten past his own PTSD events.

[12:06:35:00 - 12:07:16:15]
Speaker 2
 But while visiting Peter's apartment, Charlie sees four coffins being taken out of a vehicle. And on the way out from Peter's apartment, Charlie sees four strange people walk past him into an elevator and he is instantly smitten with the woman of the group who we will have come to know as Regine. On the way home, Charlie is his same old porn dog self and tries to get Alex to have sex with him in his car, but she gets angry with him. This scene is fucking awesome because as they're making out and it's getting hot and horny in the car, the camera pulls back and we see Regine on top of the roof of the car. And she's doing all of these movements that Charlie is doing inside. So she's kind of like forcing him into this writing. It's very cool looking. Very cool looking.

[12:07:18:00 - 12:07:30:15]
Speaker 2
 There's a little bit of comedy as we are introduced to Regine's henchmen. There's the vampire werewolf, Louie, the bug eating Bosworth, and the roller skating Belle who is actually a pretty bug and pretty roller skating vampire.

[12:07:32:10 - 12:07:40:02]
Speaker 2
 That night, Charlie dreams that Regine comes to visit him only for her to turn into a vampire and bite him.

[12:07:41:04 - 12:07:49:05]
Speaker 2
 The next day, Charlie talks to his therapist who assures him that wedding dreams is only natural. We all have dreams like this.

[12:07:50:17 - 12:08:05:15]
Speaker 2
 Charlie and Alex are supposed to go to a symphony, but on the way there, Charlie sees Regine seducing a friend of his and he opts to follow them instead. By the way, Charlie only makes the worst decisions as far as his relationship is concerned. And you're wondering why this woman would ever yield with any of his bullshit.

[12:08:07:05 - 12:08:49:10]
Speaker 2
 Anyway, Charlie spies on Regine through her apartment window and sees her attacking his friend. Remember, they are in the same apartment building as Peter Vincent. Another side, this apartment building is so fucking cool. It's an old L.A. apartment building with like the interiors have like curved doorways and shit like that. I'm like, this is so gorgeous. Anyway, he and Peter go to confront the vampires only to find that there is a huge party going on there and that Regine is a performance artist and that everything Charlie saw was just part of the show she's putting on. Charlie leaves him reassured. He leaves to go and apologize profusely to his girlfriend. But that's when Peter Vincent realizes that nobody in the apartment party had the right question.

[12:08:51:13 - 12:09:03:06]
Speaker 2
 The rest of the film plays out as Charlie is slowly becoming a vampire and Peter is definitely having crisis of faith as a fearless vampire. Will Alex be able to save Charlie before he goes full vampire? And why would you care? He's a fucking jerk.

[12:09:04:08 - 12:09:15:16]
Speaker 2
 Will Peter be able to escape the loony bit he's been tossed into and once again discovers her own destiny as a killer of vampires? And will Alex enlist Charlie's therapist to help her? Will you find out that he is also a vampire?

[12:09:16:21 - 12:09:23:11]
Speaker 2
 You guys, this film is definitely underrated. It's a lot of fun. It retries a lot of the same beats from the first movie, but it's got enough new stuff.

[12:09:24:14 - 12:09:32:09]
Speaker 2
 And it is very hard to find right now, but there is a big 4k release coming up with lots of extras. Hey, Glens, the suckers are back.

[12:09:35:14 - 12:09:37:20]
Speaker 3
 All done, Kelly.

[12:09:37:20 - 12:10:15:12]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. And more than a sequel. It's a scream. I'm going to tell you all of my trivia because it's very good. It's none of this Hans Zimmer bullshit that nobody cares about. I'm very excited. I think you should be interested in this. Soon after the filming was wrapped up, Roddy McDowell and Fright Night creator Tom Holland were met with live entertainment chairman Jose Menendez to discuss making a third film. But plans died with Menendez, who was famously murdered by his sons that night. Oh my God. Oh my God. As news of the murders swirled around Hollywood the next morning, McDowell phoned Wallace and cracked. Well, I didn't do it. Did you?

[12:10:16:20 - 12:10:17:14]
Speaker 3
 As

[12:10:17:14 - 12:10:43:00]
Speaker 2
 a direct consequence, part two ended up losing its planned countrywide distribution and playing only in one L.A. and one New York theater, which directly resulted in its poor box office results, even though its per theater results were pretty good. And then being released almost straight to video. Since all of the movies planned promos and ads were canceled as well, most people never even learned of the movie's existence until eventually noticing it at their local video store.

[12:10:44:16 - 12:10:50:08]
Speaker 2
 This is one of the very few vampire films to acknowledge that roses repel vampires as much as go like this.

[12:10:51:19 - 12:10:58:10]
Speaker 2
 According to Legend 5, aromatic plants can repel vampires, Garlic, Wolfsbane, Hemlock, Wormwood, and Wild Roses.

[12:10:59:16 - 12:11:09:10]
Speaker 2
 Stephen Jeffries was offered to reproduce his evil Ed character from the first movie, but he turned it down to take a starring role in 976 Evil, which was scheduled the film at the same time.

[12:11:10:11 - 12:11:28:06]
Speaker 2
 After Jeffries passed on the part, the script was revised and the evil Ed character was renamed Louie and turned into the vampire werewolf character. And then finally, writer director Tom Holland was asked to return for the sequel, but he and original star Chris Sarandon were tied up making Childs Play. Oh, cool.

[12:11:30:00 - 12:11:38:12]
Speaker 1
 I always remember the model or actress or whatever we worked with on very early on in our stuff. We had that tattoo of Fright Night 2, I think on her shoulders.

[12:11:38:12 - 12:11:45:15]
Speaker 2
 Damn, how am I forgetting this? You know the image from the poster, that tattoo.

[12:11:45:15 - 12:11:51:03]
Speaker 1
 What did we work with her on? One of the nightshade videos, I think. Oh, okay. Like really early on.

[12:11:51:03 - 12:12:02:16]
Speaker 2
 Okay, but yeah. Fright Night Part 2 is not streaming anywhere. You should have a physical copy of it or find some other way to get it.

[12:12:02:16 - 12:12:05:19]
Speaker 3
 You do. When you said somebody's putting it out to you now who?

[12:12:05:19 - 12:12:13:22]
Speaker 2
 I don't know anything. I just saw in the Wikipedia that there is a 4K special edition expected coming out this.

[12:12:13:22 - 12:12:16:11]
Speaker 1
 I'm sure it's some shell factor or something.

[12:12:16:11 - 12:12:25:14]
Speaker 2
 Or like a round. It's got really bad Rotten Tomatoes ratings and it's actually a really solid little fun, especially as a sequel.

[12:12:26:16 - 12:12:47:11]
Speaker 2
 Nice. And a weird thing also dealing with this is that Tom Holland and another writer have now done a sequel to Fright Night 2 as a book and a prequel to the original Fright Night as a book. Wow. So I'm like, this is interesting.

[12:12:49:09 - 12:12:53:02]
Speaker 1
 It's said the book we just picked up from Amazon last week.

[12:12:53:02 - 12:13:00:14]
Speaker 2
 Yes. That's one. Yeah. Yeah, it was on sale, the Kindle version for 99 cents or free maybe. It was free, yes. Okay, sure.

[12:13:01:20 - 12:13:05:12]
Speaker 2
 There you go. Fright Night Part 2, Eric. All right. Five minutes.

[12:13:07:07 - 12:13:08:00]
Speaker 2
 Sure.

[12:13:08:00 - 12:13:13:03]
Speaker 1
 All right. I thought it was one that sure sounds like it should have dreams.

[12:13:14:03 - 12:13:18:00]
Speaker 1
 Schloss, I think that was pronounced, but translated from German is sleep.

[12:13:19:20 - 12:13:20:12]
Speaker 1
 From 2020,

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Speaker 1
 directed by Michael Venus. This is his first personality feature written by Thomas Friedrich and Michael Venus, both their first and only features. And I will say the other time after reading that, I find that so hard to believe. Oh, cool. Gros von Tchohoff,

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Speaker 1
 who you might know from Echoes, Looping, Nothing Good, Bad Can Happen. Sandra Thjur, from Anatomy of a Fall, and Suck Me Shakespeare 3. Cool.

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Speaker 1
 With this, so I got to catch her. And August Schmulser, from Schindler's List, Lady Cop, Bride of the Wind. Yeah, Simon Schmulser's here. It's a German-made film, you ever paid that one out? Movie starts right away, and it's a dream. Right from the beginning, looks like the mother has frequent nightmares, and her daughter is used to dealing with them and walking her out of the dream and making her ready to go on with her day.

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Speaker 1
 The mom keeps dreaming of a place, and you learn through the daughter's investigations, after the mom disappears, disappears that this is, she's been drawing this place, and it's been getting progressively clearer as the draws goes on. She finally figured out, it's a hotel. So she goes to this hotel, the mom does, and goes comatose, and ends up in a hospital. And the daughter goes off to find out what the hell's going on with this place.

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Speaker 1
 The daughter's very in control, very mature for her age. I don't really know how old she is, she's probably in her late teens, early 20s, the actual actress.

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Speaker 1
 The, let's see what I was gonna say, oh, she's, the mom makes these weird comments about seeing these men in her dreams, that she's progressively killed each one of them, but the last one is proving to be too strong for her to deal with. She's not sure what she's going to do. So dreams are very prevalent in this one.

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Speaker 1
 The drawings are neat, interesting, almost kind of reminiscent of Babadook, and the style being really violent and dark.

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Speaker 1
 So the daughter goes to investigate and stays at the same hotel where the mom went, in Luby. It's a really well-made film.

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Speaker 1
 The blending of dreaming, mixing with reality is really good, but isn't the point of the movie, if you know what I mean, a lot of people do these weird movies to have dreams. So they can do dream imagery and create a hard to follow story, figure it out. What's going on? It doesn't do that, because what's going on is actually being solved in the real world. Where you're trying to figure out, okay, who's the guy on the hotel, and why does his wife tie him to the bed every night when he goes to bed with large races?

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Speaker 1
 They do an interesting job of manipulating the mom and the sorry, the owners of the hotel, the male-female dynamic of who's actually the shithead in this situation. And it's done well enough, because I get a little bored with that with movies, where it's like, oh, this is actually the bad guy. This is actually a nice person. It was just me, because we wanted to throw you off, Red Herring style. They didn't do that. It warps them very well, and the way you discover who's who is done in a way that makes sense. The strange elements work far more often than they don't. Sometimes they're a little odd,

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Speaker 1
 but the movie reveals what it is as it goes on. So I'm going to vague up what it does at the ending, because wow, it goes to a place that is really kind of unexpected. That is really kind of unexpected. And it doesn't give you a real clue of where it's going until later on. And it does a nice gov. Oh, they say something, oh, fuck, I know exactly what this is. And in what scene or two they're doing it. So it's not like being clever at the beginning. I'm going to say this one word that's going to remind you of something. You know where we're going. It doesn't say that until they're ready to reveal what's going on.

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Speaker 1
 I'll also give you all the trivia I have for this one.

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Speaker 1
 Shooting took place from April to 8th to May 7th in 2019

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Speaker 1
 in Hamburg and 43 locations in the Harz Mountains. Whoa. 43 locations.

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Speaker 3
 Less than a month.

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Speaker 1
 They're compact, I'm guessing. But yeah, they're all over the place. The budget was around 1.4 million euros.

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Speaker 1
 That's odd. This is one of those films I think deserves a larger audience. It's not, it's available to stream. It's not hard to find. I think, yeah, I wish I'm crying. What'd you call it? Horror?

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Speaker 4
 Yeah.

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Speaker 1
 Horror adjacent. It's more suspense, thriller, or suspense mystery.

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Speaker 2
 And what did you watch this on?

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Speaker 1
 Prank.

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Speaker 2
 And it's called Schloef.

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Speaker 1
 Let's give it a spelling here. S-C-H-L-A-F.

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Speaker 1
 Schloef. And let me tell you, if you just type in sleep, it'll be hard to find in my head. Yeah. That's why movies with sleep in the title that are far better known than the 2020 German film.

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Speaker 3
 I feel like I saw a trailer for this because I remember being like, wow, that seems like a really interesting concept and it was during lockdown. But.

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Speaker 2
 2020.

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Speaker 4
 Yeah.

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Speaker 2
 Nice. Well, Eric, thank you for making her choose something we could find in the movie.

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Speaker 3
 Although I will say it sounds like Arts and Crafts was pretty much in your film too there. You said some of us drawing something, so.

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Speaker 1
 But I wouldn't have known what I said watching it.

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Speaker 3
 So, I ain't ready now, sir.

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Speaker 3
 I bet there was some kind of Arts and Crafts in your movie too.

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Speaker 2
 Yes, but the way I research a movie is go Arts and Crafts. So, I said Arts and Crafts and Fright Night 2 was not going to pop up. Haddington Bear.

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Speaker 1
 Good movie.

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Speaker 1
 But might be a stretch.

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Speaker 2
 Okay, I've got the next pick.

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Speaker 2
 And I am playing off.

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Speaker 2
 Who was it that wanted us to do an Alice Cooper? Was that Kevin Bird that had asked us to do it? Sorry.

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Speaker 2
 I had so much fun with that. I want to do something where we've got rock stars that are part of the movie. Excellent. So, or just showing up in the movie. It doesn't have to be an Alice Cooper heavy thing. It can be.

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Speaker 3
 Thank God.

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Speaker 3
 Please.

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Speaker 2
 Well, after you did Black Roses, I went back and watched. That starts with a Lizzie Borden song, like I thought. It's me against the world. And I was like, this movie is fucking great. I don't know what you're talking about. You're like, the songs are bad.

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Speaker 2
 So, um,

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Speaker 2
 this doesn't have to have, uh, music or anything. So the guy can be an actor or however you want to do it. But excellent. That's how I want to do the next episode. Rockstar in a movie.

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Speaker 2
 That brings us then to the part where we say, hey, thanks everybody. Who's out there, uh, liking and sharing posts, uh, who's out there trumpeting. When the new episode drops, who's out there commenting on the new episode on YouTube, or who's out there, uh, discussing everything but the episode on the strange. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
 Where are we talking about all sorts of movies?

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Speaker 1
 So bring it on.

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Speaker 2
 I'm not very often on Facebook, but when I do go, I basically go right to that page and see what everybody's talking about. Same.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. A hundred percent. I might not be on there all the time, but just know that if I am on Facebook, I end up, we're looking there.

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Speaker 2
 That's right. Where else can they reach us?

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Speaker 3
 You can also reach us on the strange eons radio hotline. That number, which we've talked earlier in the show about is two, five, three, two, three, seven, four, two, six, six. Send us a text. Give us a call. We would love to hear from you. We'd love to know like what you think about, you know, what we're talking about, what, you know, we could be talking about. I'm of you've seen that you just want to gush about and would love us to know about. Please. Sure.

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Speaker 2
 Let us know. Absolutely. Also big, big thanks to everybody who's donating the money towards the car. Yeah. These new microphones costs money. So we were able to use some of the money that we've gotten from lovely people like you out there and then sell some body parts and we'll see if this all works out.

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Speaker 3
 You're going to need two of everything. That's right.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah.

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Speaker 2
 We call it value for value. So if you get a little value out of this, give a little value back.

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Speaker 2
 Excellent. All right, again, how about we come back in two short weeks and we talk about rock and rollers in movies.

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Speaker 2
 See you next time.

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Speaker 1
 Okay.

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Speaker 1
 For these, turn these off. Okay.

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Speaker 2
 We don't have to push that record button to record. Did you do that for.