345 2025 FAVORITES!

345 2025 FAVORITES!

The gang talks sportsball for a bit, then give their top five favorite flicks from '25!

Also discussed: Send Help, Wonder Man, The Muppet Show.

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Speaker 1
 you.

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Speaker 3
 I will trust the system.

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Speaker 1
 difference.

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Speaker 3
 It was so hard to take that giant stand out of my bag and be like, no, it's not gonna, I don't need it.

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Speaker 6
 As

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Speaker 6
 We have such sights to show you.

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Speaker 6
 Strange eons.

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Speaker 2
 Welcome to Strange Eons Radio. That is Eric over there. That is Vanessa over there.

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Speaker 4
 Hello.

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Speaker 2
 And I am Kelly. Hey guys, go Hawks.

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Speaker 3
 Yes team, yes.

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Speaker 2
 See Hawks won the Super Bowl in a very slow and mostly boring game. But I'll tell you, I will take a boring win over an exciting loss at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1
 You had the exciting loss. Yes.

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Speaker 2
 Jesus man. Yeah, yeah, that was. And I don't know about you, Vanessa, I'm gonna target you after what you just said. I have all of my nerdy friends who sit there and go, oh, is something happening today? Is something happening in sports ball?

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 (Laughs)

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Speaker 2
 Fuck you. This is the biggest pop culture event of the year. It is viewed on every fucking continent. And it has all sorts of movie trailers, commercials that are gonna be talked about, all sorts of stuff going on, celebrities,

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Speaker 2
 the big huge halftime show and everything. If you're acting like this is a football thing that you can't possibly know anything about, you're a fucking idiot and I don't want you in my house.

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Speaker 3
 Can I make a confession to you?

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 (Laughs)

[01:01:52:22 - 01:02:03:23]
Speaker 3
 So I was actually coming around to you with the idea of sneakily watching the Super Bowl because no one else in my household cares. One's two and one does not care.

[01:02:05:04 - 01:02:13:08]
Speaker 3
 And I got norovirus, so throughout the whole thing, I was just violently ill. And every once in a while I'd check the scores.

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 (Laughs)

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Speaker 2
 You're like, "This is game movie, they're all over."

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Speaker 3
 I was watering, sweating, holding a ball going, "Is it good? Okay."

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Speaker 3
 So that was my Super Bowl experience.

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Speaker 2
 And I don't mind people who have no interest in it. My mind is somehow acting like-- You're better than it. You don't know what's happening.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah, yeah, no. I mean, I ended up watching the halftime show because I wanted to know, I'm not a big, bad, funny fan, but I wanted to know what it looked like and what the grass dancers were.

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Speaker 2
 The hubbub was all about everything. At the end of it I was like, "I can safely say it without any racism. This was not for me."

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Speaker 1
 I would say, I think you'll all be surprised since I say this, the best musical halftime performance was "Ride Prince."

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Speaker 2
 The whole, I knew you were gonna say that. But I'm not alone in thinking.

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Speaker 2
 I remember liking that one quite a bit.

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Speaker 1
 Accepted answer. But I think as far as a setup where they use a whole bunch of props, I think this was a really good one. Yeah. A lot of this flopped so weird.

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Speaker 2
 I was expecting all the trees to start dancing. I know. They had people in there.

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Speaker 3
 That's why I watched it. And then they just filed us a tree. I was like, "When are they gonna do something? Are they shuffling? What's going on?"

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Speaker 2
 This was the part I played in my first grade play about Jesus and Mary. I was also a tree.

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 (Laughing)

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Speaker 2
 I expected more out of that. Something you could strive for.

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Speaker 3
 I will say that was the most awkward Lady Gaga dancing I think I have ever witnessed. I was just like, "Girl, I don't know that you know how to do this style."

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Speaker 3
 She did not look comfortable, but-- It's part of the theme art next to you. Just hold a large flower arrangement and just sway. You don't need, I don't wanna see what you're trying to do with your body because I think you're not doing it quite right.

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Speaker 2
 I'm glad you mentioned Ricky Martin because when he popped up, I was like, "Okay, is Ricky Martin still doing stuff? I don't know, but if he's not, he needs to start playing like evil villains in Marvel movies, right?" I was like, "Jesus guy looks fucking great. He's gotta be our age, right? He's in the mid-50s now, right?" He fucking looks amazing. I did not recognize him.

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Speaker 1
 I was the only person who did, I was like, "Jesus, is that Ricky Martin?" Because he's had the beer, but I was like,

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Speaker 1
 "Yeah, that's a way too good looking guy to just be a random singer they brought in." So I'm guessing because of who's playing and all this stuff, it's probably, but-- Yeah, he needs to be an Iron Man villain.

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 (Both Laughing)

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Speaker 1
 But then, what I did, I did the parade.

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Speaker 3
 The parade!

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Speaker 1
 The 11th.

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Speaker 2
 You're insane.

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Speaker 3
 I was at the last one. How did this, yeah, I was meeting a friend and then he was like, "By the way, we're gonna go in this parade that is happening right now. We're gonna go do this." And I was like, "All right, I guess that's why you made me meet you here." That was cold, man.

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Speaker 3
 It was freezing,

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Speaker 3
 but it was fun.

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Speaker 1
 This one, we managed to finagle tickets to the Lumen Field event. Oh!

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Speaker 1
 So we're like, "Great, we're gonna do this the smart way. We're gonna ride the bus and get down there by the bus." And I'm looking at the bus routes, because I used to ride the bus a lot, but it's been a long time. So I'm like, "Okay, the bus routes, I figure with the modern things, if it's not going someplace, they're going to put that into the app and say this." You think? As opposed to randomly listing all of the stops they're not going to. So I looked at that and go, "Okay, all the stops are on fourth, which makes sense, because that's where the parade was." But they have their stop on fifth.

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Speaker 1
 So that way, we'll take it. And this was supposed to drop us at Lumen Field.

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Speaker 1
 So we get downtown, some of these references, I'm sorry. You may not understand, but it was about four blocks north of Paramount, and four or five blocks away from West Lake.

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Speaker 1
 But Stair's like, "Okay, this is as far as everybody's got."

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Speaker 3
 No, that is a walk.

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Speaker 1
 It was a little over a mile and a half from Lumen Field. Oh, no. That's not a fun try. All right, let's go. So, you know, we go down, "Hey, we got to see West Lake standing, walk by. Pike Place Market, we walk through Pike Place Market." All the sites.

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Speaker 2
 So that's all good, because that's all downhill. Did you have to then walk all that uphill to get a bus?

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Speaker 1
 Thankfully not. Okay. So yeah, we went down to Lumen Field, and it was a lot of fun. They gave the speeches, and if you paid any attention, I'm sure you've heard some of the speeches.

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Speaker 1
 And they loaded everybody up on these giant trucks. They're like, "Okay, well, let's see what's happening." And I pull up the app again to plan it around home

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Speaker 1
 and misread what one of the symbols means. One of the symbols was for the light rail. Oh. Not the bus. I don't know what this bus stop is, but it looks like it's here. So we walked to the other side of T-Mobile, which is the baseball stadium, which is next to Lumen Field, and realized, "Oh, shit, this is light rail." So we walked back.

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Speaker 1
 The light rail's up between the two a few blocks up. So it wasn't too bad. So we walked and we get there, and luckily we're going north, because south was, holy shit, panning. So we got in the north, and it wasn't too bad. Then we hit our first stop. Oh. It was packed, but you know what? It was actually really fun. It was kind of nice. There were stupid teenagers telling stupid jokes, because one of them wasn't this side of the boat. The train was way over here. And they're yelling back stupid things. But every time there was a stop, anybody had had to get off, everybody was, "Okay, somebody's getting off, getting off." And people would move out of the way, and you'd get off, and then people would cram back in.

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Speaker 1
 And I don't know if you've ever taken a rail downtown. I am going to start using that more often. It was so freaking fast, it was insane.

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Speaker 4
 Yeah.

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Speaker 1
 It's all underground, this route. And they're, "Okay, the last stop downtown was Capitol Hill, and next we're gonna be at the University of Washington, is where we got off." And I'm like, "Okay, so 10 minutes, maybe." It seemed like less than five freaking minutes. And I was like, "We're stopped."

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Speaker 1
 So we get off and we're right by Husky Stadium.

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Speaker 1
 So that's like, if you're driving from Lewinfield to Husky Stadium, we're talking four to 30 minutes. 30 minutes, it's easy, yeah.

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Speaker 1
 And this was 10 minutes. And we were so fast, it was insane.

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Speaker 2
 Why didn't, if you were taking a light rail, why didn't you just take it to the end in Redmond, where you live?

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Speaker 1
 Because we missed that option.

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Speaker 1
 But it was the bus to get back to Redmond, we were at a parking lot in Redmond, was just across the street. So we just walked over there, way they got on. My hope, and by the time we got there, the bus that would have taken us home, got to the stop just before us with all the Chisia experience going on. Well, how the hell?

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 (Both Laughing)

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Speaker 1
 Overall, it was a lot of fun. I think we clocked in, you know, a little flat shit, a little over five miles of walking.

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Speaker 3
 Nice,

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Speaker 3
 that's solid.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah, the energy must have been great. And the weather looked good.

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Speaker 1
 Yeah, it was really good. The next day, the police report came out, said nobody was arrested. There's no instances they had to worry about. I think part of it was, because cops were being mellow. Like I saw one cop take a guy's jersey, run it over to the truck where the players were handed to the player, have him sign it and runs it back. And it was so big. They ran out of the barriers, they put up for those things, but they just kept going for another few blocks. So it was very, you're free for a while. But yeah, it's fun because the Seahawks as a public image have been really mellow this year. And if they're not, together some crazy ass guys on that team. And the speeches came out, you know, okay. Like the one guy getting the t-shirt, Sam Darnold flipping everybody off, which is a defensive player. And for really no football, that's like, whoa, defensive guy loving on the offense, all right. But the energy was fun. There are some really serious moments because,

[01:10:29:02 - 01:10:36:08]
Speaker 1
 and this was rough. During the season, five players lost fathers.

[01:10:36:08 - 01:10:37:07]
Speaker 4
 Oh my God.

[01:10:37:07 - 01:10:39:09]
Speaker 1
 One player lost a brother.

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Speaker 1
 And one of them was the general manager. He was talking about this. And I'm like, ugh, because you know, somebody important to me lost father. I lost father a long time ago, still sucks. But so I was like, well, and this was late in the season. I was like, Jesus, they lost, all those guys were like 89 games to play. Oh. I was like, Jesus Christ. It's heartbreaking. But you know, then you have the crazy guys drinking. The family affair of the NFL was toned down a little bit for the live presentation because there's a lot of swearing.

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Speaker 1
 And there was to end the ceremony, to set off the fireworks and the confetti, they tapped a beer cake.

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Speaker 4
 Wow.

[01:11:25:13 - 01:11:30:22]
Speaker 1
 And then Nina found an image later of the general manager talking to one player, he's going, I am already fucked up.

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 (Laughing)

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Speaker 1
 So it was a lot of fun. It is like you were mentioning, one of the great things that sports can do is bring people that have nothing in common together for something they can connect to.

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Speaker 3
 It was, I will say it was fun in my neighborhood. We're one of those neighborhoods that it's like a very middle income, maybe slightly lower middle income area. And so every goal, fireworks. Every goal, it was a fireworks kind of community. And so every time they scored, I knew it. I was like, the whole place is

[01:12:10:23 - 01:12:12:22]
Speaker 3
 exploding. And then when they won the game, it was like

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Speaker 3
 forever. It just kept going and going and going. But I can't see where the fireworks are from where I'm at anyway, but I can always hear them. I know that I'm kind of surrounded by joyful communications, so.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah, well, congratulations to the Hawks now. Get back to work, let's do it all again. There you go.

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 (Laughing)

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Speaker 3
 Have a nap and we'll see you next year.

[01:12:36:23 - 01:12:44:12]
Speaker 2
 Hey you guys, I am watching some stuff here. What am I gonna talk about? I guess I will talk about Send Help, which is Sand which is Sand.

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Speaker 4
 Yeah.

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Speaker 2
 Oh, right. This has been really highly reviewed and people love it and everything. I thought it was very good. It is not the kind of movie I like.

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Speaker 2
 I am not,

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Speaker 2
 especially if I'm told something is gonna be horror, I always want horror. This is definitely a man versus man story. And I thought that there was really good writing

[01:13:11:03 - 01:13:11:12]
Speaker 2
 and I was like, "Yeah."

[01:13:13:04 - 01:13:22:22]
Speaker 2
 But otherwise I was like, "Okay, I really wanted, if Sand was going to dip into this again, I wanted Drag Me to Hell 2 or something like that."

[01:13:22:22 - 01:13:25:17]
Speaker 3
 That's exactly what Austin had said after we watched it.

[01:13:25:17 - 01:13:26:04]
Speaker 4
 Really?

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Speaker 3
 Yeah, he was like, "It's no Drag Me to Hell, but I'm glad he's back." And I was, you know, I had a good time with it. I thought it was really fun. There were a lot of moments where I also closed my eyes and was like, "I don't know if I wanna look at this. Whoever's about to have it, I don't wanna see it." But it was surprising. I don't know. I felt like it hit a very specific tone that a lot of filmmakers cannot hit where you're doing something grotesque and like fairly dark, even if it wasn't straight up horror, but also pretty comedic and holding that line. I don't think a lot of people can manage that.

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Speaker 2
 Not only that, I'll say this was one of the few films where you've got a situation like this and your allegiance is kind of wavering between.

[01:14:11:10 - 01:14:17:22]
Speaker 3
 The whole time. I was like, "I don't know who I want to die. Maybe I want the bolt to die. Maybe I want the bolt to not."

[01:14:17:22 - 01:14:23:11]
Speaker 2
 At one point I thought, "Oh, these people are both pretty bad. Neither of them can survive this."

[01:14:23:11 - 01:14:29:06]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. I thought at one point that they were gonna like get together and like do you think that's better?

[01:14:29:06 - 01:14:38:06]
Speaker 2
 You definitely need to down that trail for a minute. Yeah, yeah. That sounds like good writing. It is, it is. It's a really good movie. It's just not what I wanted from Sam.

[01:14:39:06 - 01:14:45:14]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, there's definitely, but I hope that this gives him an opportunity to maybe keep pursuing this line.

[01:14:45:14 - 01:14:49:23]
Speaker 2
 This film career that he's hoping for? I just mean,

[01:14:51:07 - 01:15:02:09]
Speaker 3
 you know, he does something very well. It'd be nice to keep doing it. Yeah. Well, I saw something two nights ago, which I don't, I'm guessing neither of you have seen "Wittering Heights."

[01:15:04:19 - 01:15:06:16]
Speaker 3
 Holy fuck. So.

[01:15:06:16 - 01:15:08:00]
Speaker 4
 Is that a thing for good or?

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Speaker 3
 I don't know.

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Speaker 3
 So the filmmaker is somebody that I like a lot. They did, oh my God. I wanna say it's called "Dangerous Woman" or something, woman. And then "Salt Burn," which I did not care for, but it's a gorgeous movie. And this is just another incredible feat of filmmaking. But imagine that you took a gothic romantic story and you just took all the levers on it and you went all the way up and then pressed play. There's, it is extreme in literally everything it does. So there are moments where you're like, "I hate everybody in this movie." But you're kind of supposed to, but it is so stunningly beautiful. If you thought "Frankenstein" was a pretty movie, that thing looks like shit compared to the, the set designs are out of control, out of control. But yeah, I think it was a movie very much worth watching.

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Speaker 3
 It was not, if you were going for the romance and for the good feels and hoping that you're getting a romantic film out of it, I don't know that you're gonna be happy.

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Speaker 2
 This isn't even on my radar. That's how far away from gothic romance I straight.

[01:16:28:15 - 01:16:34:13]
Speaker 3
 It's just, it was the only interesting film out right now. Oh, so well, speaking of "Frankenstein,"

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Speaker 3
 it's the same guy who plays the monster. So, and it's also "Margo Robbie,"

[01:16:43:21 - 01:16:47:00]
Speaker 3
 directed by Emerald Fennell.

[01:16:48:05 - 01:17:00:05]
Speaker 3
 Promising Young Woman, is that the one you're trying-- That's the one I was trying to think of, yeah. Promising Young Woman, which I freaking love that film so much. It's so incredible. And she played Midge in "Barbie." She was a pregnant one.

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Speaker 3
 But yeah, and Jacob Allordi is who I was thinking of. So, just everybody else, I don't know, Hong Chua, I've seen her around, but Shazad Latif, there were people who looked familiar, but I wasn't like, oh yeah, I know who you are. Martin Clunes is in it though, as the dad, and he did a very good job.

[01:17:23:21 - 01:17:28:07]
Speaker 2
 What's the wrong choice for "Margo Robbie" to make for her next film?

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Speaker 3
 I don't know, man. It's like a crazy role. And I think she loves taking really difficult roles on. I don't know, "Margo Robbie" has like chomps and she loves using them. So I can definitely see this, but I would recommend checking it out for sure, just for the visuals. It will blow you away.

[01:17:52:07 - 01:17:52:18]
Speaker 3
 Withering Heights.

[01:17:53:23 - 01:17:54:02]
 (Laughing)

[01:17:55:04 - 01:17:57:01]
Speaker 1
 Not gonna hurt you. Now I might.

[01:17:59:12 - 01:18:09:23]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, no, nothing like that for me. But a classic of my childhood and strong weirdness of my life. The Muppet Show returns.

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Speaker 3
 Yes, yeah, with Sabrina and the Carpenter.

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Speaker 1
 It is so spot on perfect. I don't know what goes on in Seth Rogen's brain creatively, but he hits so many runs with things he adapts. He nailed, this one he nailed. He keeps doing all this.

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Speaker 1
 It's hard to picture a guy with an Amadeus-esque laugh being as good as he is.

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Speaker 3
 Every time he walks in a room, you're like, "Are you stoned right now, sir?" Probably, yes.

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Speaker 4
 Ooh.

[01:18:44:23 - 01:18:48:09]
Speaker 3
 Yes, he has such a stoner persona.

[01:18:48:09 - 01:18:54:18]
Speaker 1
 But yeah, they nailed the characters. Of course, the voices are just slightly altered. Sure, it's slightly different.

[01:18:54:18 - 01:18:56:06]
Speaker 2
 But he's dead, so.

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Speaker 1
 Yeah, but they were, the only one that hit me, like, "Oh, that was weird," was Kermit's singing voice. Yeah. Was like, deep. It was just like, this sounds awesome.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah, it almost made me wonder, I was like, "Is this the same guy's singing?"

[01:19:09:09 - 01:19:15:20]
Speaker 1
 That's what I thought too, it's like, to begin a different person to sing for him because his speaking voice was pretty spot on.

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Speaker 2
 I also loved it. I was shocked to see so many, listen, man, fandom is the worst.

[01:19:23:17 - 01:19:30:12]
Speaker 2
 And so many people who say they loved the original and they were just like, "This is horrible, this sucked."

[01:19:31:23 - 01:19:49:23]
Speaker 2
 It doesn't have the same feel of the sense of humor, it doesn't have the same voice, it doesn't have anything. I was like, well, half of the jokes were recycled from old episodes. I actually broke down and started weeping because that was one of the shows that I would watch with my dad. And he loved "Stadler and Wohler."

[01:19:51:07 - 01:20:00:10]
Speaker 2
 And they recycled the one joke I remember him loving from the 70s, which was, "Well, the show wasn't half bad." "Yeah, it's all bad."

[01:20:02:05 - 01:20:20:08]
Speaker 2
 I remember him just cracking up so hard at that and that really knocked me over. And I was just like, I apologize for whatever is going on in your soul if you can't enjoy the joy that Seth was trying to make.

[01:20:21:12 - 01:20:29:09]
Speaker 1
 I must have read very different things because the stuff I read was all positive, all people just absolutely loving it.

[01:20:30:17 - 01:20:43:15]
Speaker 1
 There's a few people, of course, who always come out and forget them up. It was a prime time show, it's not a Saturday morning as well as a kid's show. And start with, "Oh yeah, the dope joke." Like the kink joke.

[01:20:43:15 - 01:20:59:13]
Speaker 2
 Which was almost, it was vanilla bean. It was not vanilla. It was vanilla bean. It was as light a joke as it possibly be. I did see a few people kind of clutch their pearls over.

[01:20:59:13 - 01:21:01:01]
Speaker 1
 They're like, "Wow."

[01:21:02:10 - 01:21:14:03]
Speaker 1
 I thought it, I actually think it absolutely nailed the tone of the original. I've watched the original first season in the last 10 years and it nailed it.

[01:21:14:03 - 01:21:28:15]
Speaker 2
 Felt very close to me. And even if it didn't nail it, and even if it didn't nail it, the fact that somebody's out there trying to do this again, and apparently the way this is like a pilot, they're hoping it gets enough views that people will say, "We want this as a regular thing."

[01:21:28:15 - 01:21:37:08]
Speaker 3
 I expected that when it was gonna be done, it would start the next episode. And then it was like, "Oh wait, this is just them "hoping that they can keep going."

[01:21:37:08 - 01:21:44:22]
Speaker 2
 Which might be a gimmick in itself. We don't really know what's going on here. It seems like Seth could probably get this rolling pretty easily, but--

[01:21:44:22 - 01:21:48:13]
Speaker 3
 They probably just want this temper to see whether or not--

[01:21:48:13 - 01:22:05:06]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I was right there with you, I loved it. And then that's what turned me on to the Muppets Mayhem which I hadn't watched. I missed that one. So I watched that and I was just like, "You know what, we needed a little more Muppets in our life."

[01:22:05:06 - 01:22:15:23]
Speaker 3
 Agreed, agreed, yeah. I've started showing Danica some Muppet stuff. And she seems very interested. So she sat through the whole of that episode and was willing.

[01:22:17:07 - 01:22:37:23]
Speaker 3
 I had never seen the Muppet show. I didn't grow up with it and it just somehow really passed me by. But I loved Kermit and Fauzi Bear and everybody. And so after this one finished, I was like, "How much like the original is this?" Because I've never seen it. So we started watching the show and I was like, "Oh my God, I mean it feels just like it."

[01:22:37:23 - 01:22:41:02]
Speaker 2
 Now what are you, is the Muppet show available on Disney?

[01:22:41:02 - 01:22:43:02]
Speaker 4
 Then, oh. Yeah, you can watch it.

[01:22:43:02 - 01:22:48:05]
Speaker 2
 I think it's all of it. I have fond memories of Alice Cooper or Dolly Parton.

[01:22:48:05 - 01:23:05:14]
Speaker 3
 Sure. Well, the first one starts with this like random 70s dancer chick, which I'm sure was a very famous person at the time. But I was like, "I don't know who the heck you are." And they have random like dance sequences. And it works, it's not a dance, it's like a, I'm floating around with like a piece of fabric.

[01:23:07:04 - 01:23:21:04]
Speaker 3
 Oh my God, it was so wild. And then they did the "Manomena" in there, which is the funniest shit. Like if you just watch the whole thing and let it play out beat for beat, and you just sit at it, it's so fucking good.

[01:23:23:04 - 01:23:34:08]
Speaker 1
 I mean, it was in high school. One of my nicknames was when I got on stage and project louder, the tone gets stronger was Kermit.

[01:23:36:03 - 01:23:39:23]
Speaker 2
 And Jamie's. I got news for you. That does not change, it's not what you project.

[01:23:40:23 - 01:23:41:20]
Speaker 1
 It's, but it gets more.

[01:23:42:23 - 01:23:53:01]
Speaker 1
 And Jamie was animal. Oh, of course. So yeah, Muppets have been, I even had the girl I was dating when I moved up to Seattle.

[01:23:54:07 - 01:23:58:17]
Speaker 1
 Drew a little comic of me as Kermit doing stuff.

[01:24:01:02 - 01:24:05:04]
Speaker 1
 And having fun in Seattle and shit. So I guess it's pretty shocking.

[01:24:06:05 - 01:24:07:08]
Speaker 1
 I thought you were gonna tell me.

[01:24:07:08 - 01:24:09:03]
Speaker 2
 My nickname for my girlfriend was Piggy.

[01:24:09:03 - 01:24:15:00]
Speaker 3
 I was wondering where that was going. I was like, which Muppets was she? Which Muppets was she? Rizzo.

[01:24:15:00 - 01:24:18:09]
Speaker 1
 Sabrina Carpenter could kind of do a Dolly Parton.

[01:24:18:09 - 01:24:24:04]
Speaker 2
 I know, I was thinking that too. I was like, I don't know who Sabrina Carpenter is. She's very pretty, she has a lovely voice.

[01:24:25:07 - 01:24:27:18]
Speaker 2
 At the end, she was doing her best Dolly Parton.

[01:24:27:18 - 01:24:28:17]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Yeah.

[01:24:30:13 - 01:24:45:03]
Speaker 3
 Sure, I think she's very inspired. I think Sabrina Carpenter was one of those Disney kids turns into like an actual proper celebrities, pop star of her own, right kind of thing. Yeah, I've listened to

[01:24:45:01 - 01:24:47:05]
Speaker 3
 some of her music because I wanted to know who the fuck this

[01:24:47:05 - 01:24:56:10]
Speaker 3
 She's pop or country? She's pop. Oh, okay. Yeah, but she does hit those tones that Dolly can, so.

[01:24:56:10 - 01:25:04:02]
Speaker 2
 Well, in the duet of Islands in the Stream, I was like, "Boy, she sounds just like Dolly." I know. "I know why they picked this song." I know.

[01:25:05:03 - 01:25:09:10]
Speaker 2
 Okay, The Muppet Show. Hopefully we will get more of that. That's on Disney+.

[01:25:11:07 - 01:25:30:01]
Speaker 2
 You guys, who would have thought that Patrick Dempsey would be just killing it in his later years. The guy who played the nerdy lover boy and paper boy and all that stuff, and then the game McDreamy and all that. He's in a new series called Memory of a Killer that I'm watching, and are you watching this too?

[01:25:30:01 - 01:25:33:01]
Speaker 1
 We've got it queued up for when we finish what I talk about next.

[01:25:33:01 - 01:25:58:03]
Speaker 2
 Oh, okay. It is really, really interesting, and it's about a hitman who's leading kind of a double life. The people he's a hitman for don't realize that he has a daughter, and he has a father, and all of this stuff. They see him as this one person. He's kind of got this secret life where, just has a grown up daughter who loves him very much and all that stuff, and he's got early on stage Alzheimer's.

[01:25:58:03 - 01:25:59:04]
Speaker 3
 Oh, sad.

[01:25:59:04 - 01:26:19:10]
Speaker 2
 And so things start slipping between the two worlds he's doing. I was like just immediately enraptured with this series because Patrick Dempsey is so fucking handsome. And half of the time he's just in a black on black suit because he's a killer, you know? I'm like, goddamn, this guy looks fucking great.

[01:26:19:10 - 01:26:22:00]
Speaker 1
 He wasn't McCall McDreamy for nothing.

[01:26:22:00 - 01:26:26:00]
Speaker 2
 I know, so yeah, with his salt and pepper hair, fuck you.

[01:26:28:13 - 01:26:50:01]
Speaker 2
 But it's really good. The sideline story with his daughter, I don't think is as interesting, but I do think it's necessary for what they're trying to set up, which is he keeps fucking up, but eventually it's going to bite him. So really good as of this recording only four episodes. Oh, interesting. I'm watching it on Hulu, so it must be on like ABC or something.

[01:26:50:01 - 01:26:51:23]
Speaker 3
 Yes, yeah.

[01:26:53:00 - 01:26:56:08]
Speaker 3
 Hulu slash Disney slash ABC slash whatever the fuck else, ESPN.

[01:26:56:08 - 01:26:58:08]
Speaker 2
 It's called Memory of a Killer.

[01:26:58:08 - 01:26:58:22]
Speaker 3
 Wow.

[01:27:00:20 - 01:27:17:12]
Speaker 3
 Well, I have been watching slash watched all of Wonder Man. I'm hoping you both have seen it. God, I loved this series. I don't know how much I was like, I need to see Trevor Slatterly in a buddy comedy

[01:27:18:19 - 01:27:39:12]
Speaker 3
 where he and this other guy are running around LA trying to just make shit happen, but oh my God, I needed it. Marvel needed it. I feel like it is such a refreshing take on the Marvel universe. I loved the character of Simon Williams, but I love Trevor even more. I just was fucking eating it up. I don't know. What did you guys think about this?

[01:27:39:12 - 01:27:59:11]
Speaker 2
 You know, I was like, why are they gonna make this interesting? Wonder Man, not a very interesting character. Not really. Sure. But they kept all the stuff about him that he was an actor and all of that. And I liked it very much too for the same reason. Ben Kingsley is just so goddamn likable.

[01:27:59:11 - 01:28:01:05]
Speaker 3
 He is, oh my God.

[01:28:02:23 - 01:28:23:16]
Speaker 2
 And I thought, so my initial grumpy thing is, why do we have to have a series? This would make, why can't this be a theatrical movie? And I realized the fans would have hated this. This is not a superhero movie at all. Yeah. So it just so happens that Wonder Man has these powers that he's basically trying to hide.

[01:28:25:18 - 01:28:34:05]
Speaker 2
 But I thought it was really, really good. I was like, how is this going to play into, what is it, Doomsday, is that the next one?

[01:28:34:05 - 01:28:35:22]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, Avengers, Dancer.

[01:28:35:22 - 01:28:45:18]
Speaker 2
 Because Wonder Man ends up in the comics being like, yeah, he is highly powered. He's not Superman, but he's just under Superman.

[01:28:45:18 - 01:28:48:00]
Speaker 3
 I have not read any Wonder Man, so.

[01:28:48:00 - 01:28:50:18]
Speaker 1
 Like he said, they're not the greatest.

[01:28:50:18 - 01:29:03:07]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, none of the comic stories have been as interesting as the story they told on Disney. So that's always really nice when they decide to take, like Guardians of the Galaxy and suddenly turn it into this.

[01:29:03:07 - 01:29:06:01]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, or Agatha, who is not the most thrilling of characters.

[01:29:06:01 - 01:29:16:14]
Speaker 2
 My only problem was I didn't know this lead actor at all. And I kept just going, I wish this was Jamie Foxx. I feel like they want him to be Jamie Foxx. Why couldn't they get Jamie Foxx?

[01:29:16:14 - 01:29:18:22]
Speaker 3
 But this guy's so good.

[01:29:18:22 - 01:29:22:23]
Speaker 2
 This guy was really good. And obviously Jamie's quite a bit older than the other guys.

[01:29:22:23 - 01:29:23:06]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[01:29:24:14 - 01:29:30:23]
Speaker 1
 The thing that kept me from really liking it right away was the guy's self sabotage. Oh my God.

[01:29:32:06 - 01:29:34:05]
Speaker 3
 I know, it is hard to watch that.

[01:29:34:05 - 01:29:48:11]
Speaker 1
 And it actually kind of bugged me right up until the last episode. And the last episode is so good that it colored the entire series for me. Going, this is awesome. Yeah, yeah. I see what they were going for. They paid it off nice.

[01:29:48:11 - 01:30:06:15]
Speaker 3
 They gave him an arc. I mean, I think that's why they have such, like having Trevor there with him gives it such a nice tilt. Because if you had to sit with that guy the whole way, it'd be intolerable. Like watching him just screw things up every opportunity.

[01:30:07:15 - 01:30:18:01]
Speaker 3
 I'm glad he could talk his way into pretty much anything. But I did enjoy very much of obviously the side episode where they talk about, is it the doorman?

[01:30:19:07 - 01:30:30:02]
Speaker 3
 Holy moly. I was like, what are they gonna do with Gad? What are they gonna do with Gad? He's like drunk singing, do you want, you know, in summer or whatever.

[01:30:30:02 - 01:30:34:09]
Speaker 2
 I have to thank you for having us watch Frozen because that would have just gone complete.

[01:30:35:11 - 01:30:35:12]
 (Laughing)

[01:30:35:12 - 01:30:38:20]
Speaker 2
 But because of you, I got quite a good laugh out of that.

[01:30:38:20 - 01:30:48:04]
Speaker 3
 It was made it that much better. It definitely did. But I don't know if you, do you remember what else that actor was in though? Cause he was Manta in Aquaman.

[01:30:49:11 - 01:30:50:12]
Speaker 2
 Why would I remember?

[01:30:50:12 - 01:30:54:17]
Speaker 3
 He's the bad guy. He's the only good actor in it.

[01:30:54:17 - 01:30:58:01]
Speaker 1
 That was one I didn't bother with, so nope. That movie was horrible.

[01:30:58:01 - 01:31:05:07]
Speaker 3
 He was Morpheus in "Resurrections" which "Matrix" "Resurrections" which wasn't good. And "Candyman", he played the new "Candyman".

[01:31:05:07 - 01:31:13:02]
Speaker 2
 Oh he did? Yup. Oh good man. So. Yeah, I had no problem with his acting. I just wanted to be somebody else.

[01:31:14:09 - 01:31:14:16]
 (Laughing)

[01:31:14:16 - 01:31:21:01]
Speaker 2
 You know, I don't know if you guys are aware that on Marvel you can watch all of their one shots. So if you like Ben Kingsley,

[01:31:22:06 - 01:31:23:22]
Speaker 2
 he is in a couple of their one shots.

[01:31:23:22 - 01:31:28:08]
Speaker 3
 I feel like I saw one of them. I'll have to. As, but yeah.

[01:31:28:08 - 01:31:34:17]
Speaker 1
 Character. That's cool. Yeah, that's fun. I love the twist they put in him with the problem of being who people thought he was.

[01:31:35:17 - 01:31:35:17]
 (Laughing)

[01:31:35:17 - 01:31:40:05]
Speaker 2
 They're knocking at the door and there's supposed to be cops. But you're the man right here.

[01:31:40:05 - 01:31:40:15]
 (Laughing)

[01:31:40:15 - 01:31:41:13]
Speaker 2
 Big cup covers blow.

[01:31:41:13 - 01:31:43:23]
 (Laughing)

[01:31:45:21 - 01:31:46:17]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, "Wonder Man", great.

[01:31:48:19 - 01:31:51:13]
Speaker 2
 And then that ending, I was like, well, what a cliffhanger.

[01:31:51:13 - 01:31:52:01]
Speaker 3
 Oh my God.

[01:31:52:01 - 01:31:55:08]
Speaker 2
 And we get a second season before doomsday. How's this gonna work?

[01:31:55:08 - 01:31:59:10]
Speaker 3
 I think they're just gonna go right into doomsday. I don't think they have time for another season.

[01:31:59:10 - 01:32:02:01]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, well, wait a minute. When is it? It's not this year, right?

[01:32:02:01 - 01:32:12:11]
Speaker 3
 Uh, that's a great point. Yeah, it's 26. It's gotta be 26. It's, you would think so, but they've had so many movie, and it says 2026.

[01:32:12:11 - 01:32:13:08]
Speaker 2
 Wow.

[01:32:13:08 - 01:32:14:02]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[01:32:14:02 - 01:32:15:06]
Speaker 2
 It's gotta be a summer early.

[01:32:15:06 - 01:32:18:12]
Speaker 3
 December, December 18th, 2026 is

[01:32:18:12 - 01:32:21:09]
Speaker 1
 the-- It's like they're out of premade to do another one. Since it was so

[01:32:21:09 - 01:32:25:19]
Speaker 2
 short, but I don't know what they-- Yeah, that was the other thing. I really appreciated 30 minute episode. Yeah.

[01:32:25:19 - 01:32:36:23]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, it was quick. But they felt longer. I had the same situation at the studio where I'm like, I just sat through an hour's worth of content. Oh my God, only 30 minutes fast. Holy lolly.

[01:32:36:23 - 01:32:42:14]
Speaker 2
 It sure helps the complaint of, you know, filler episodes. I didn't feel like that was anything.

[01:32:42:14 - 01:32:45:07]
Speaker 3
 No, it felt very tight, yeah.

[01:32:45:07 - 01:32:46:08]
Speaker 2
 Okay.

[01:32:48:19 - 01:32:51:07]
Speaker 2
 That was one of them. So, you and I.

[01:32:51:07 - 01:32:58:02]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, we, as long time, semi-long time listeners, I've been moved in with my father-in-law

[01:32:59:12 - 01:33:02:15]
Speaker 1
 great in many ways, but one of the weird things is television show watching.

[01:33:03:17 - 01:33:12:08]
Speaker 1
 And I'll be fair, he introduced to me what became, I think Vera is phenomenal. The British detective series.

[01:33:13:09 - 01:33:37:07]
Speaker 1
 I mean, top 10 series I've ever seen. It is so good. But we finally, Dean, I was like, I think he reads "Reacher." Okay. I don't know if I agree, Chair. So we started that up again with season one and watched the first two seasons and we're two seasons left, two episodes left in season three. And man, first season was so freaking good. Yeah.

[01:33:38:12 - 01:33:47:12]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Second one's also pretty good. Third one is still fun. It's a flog. Because it's still "Reacher." But there's a lot of,

[01:33:48:17 - 01:33:52:22]
Speaker 1
 there's some, it's weird. It's a weird season. Yeah.

[01:33:54:06 - 01:33:54:11]
Speaker 1
 Yeah,

[01:33:55:11 - 01:34:12:01]
Speaker 1
 one of the problems in this one is the writing a little bit more because part of what made the first two so good, Reacher's Reacher, he is not a character arc person. And it's the people around him that really sell the show.

[01:34:12:01 - 01:34:12:17]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:34:12:17 - 01:34:54:11]
Speaker 1
 And the people around him in this one are not nearly as strong as the first two seasons. No, yeah. I mean, even the detective from season one showing up is one of the best moments in season three. Agreed, agreed. So it's kind of like, oh, so. But it's still fun and it's easier watching it this way because you just go, go, go, go, go, go. You know, we're watching like an episode a night or every other night or something like that. So there's no space in between. Yeah, so it's coming out. So the parts that are fun are still fun.

[01:34:56:07 - 01:35:02:06]
Speaker 1
 The fact that they got that, I looked him off that guy who's seven foot two to be the big

[01:35:02:06 - 01:35:12:21]
Speaker 3
 guy. He is so intimidating. I was like, he's gonna break him. He's gonna actually break him. He's gonna mush his little face and there'll be nothing left. And that's Reacher.

[01:35:12:21 - 01:35:24:00]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, so that aspect, I was fun waiting for that final confrontation to happen. It's still waiting for that. But yeah, it's, yeah, it's fun.

[01:35:24:00 - 01:35:26:18]
Speaker 3
 What does your father-in-law think of it? Does he like it?

[01:35:26:18 - 01:35:29:08]
Speaker 1
 He really liked the first couple of seasons.

[01:35:29:08 - 01:35:30:11]
Speaker 2
 He's read, I think, all the books.

[01:35:31:14 - 01:35:37:00]
Speaker 2
 You did a full read on the books too. Are they just? I did not end up getting a full read.

[01:35:37:00 - 01:35:43:13]
Speaker 1
 I read three or four and then the repetition got to me a little bit. So like, okay, maybe I'll come back and read a few more later.

[01:35:43:13 - 01:35:49:19]
Speaker 2
 Are they just, I know the idea was a book, but are they going like in order of the books too?

[01:35:51:07 - 01:36:06:10]
Speaker 1
 I'd have to double check because I thought they were, but then I was like, maybe not. If they are, it'd make perfect sense because there's the third book that really bogged me down. So I'm very curious if maybe to go back and check that because the first two are really quick, easy reads.

[01:36:06:10 - 01:36:07:00]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:36:07:00 - 01:36:10:00]
Speaker 1
 And the third one's gone. And then comes just for a little while.

[01:36:10:00 - 01:36:14:13]
Speaker 2
 I keep wanting the Alan Richardson guy to play Batman.

[01:36:15:15 - 01:36:35:16]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, I think a lot of people would love that, but I don't know why they don't seem to be. There's a lot of like rumors and wishes. And I think a lot of people went up to James Gunn and were like, "Hey, maybe you should get this guy, this guy." But it sounds like they're talking to him about something, but it's probably not gonna be Batman.

[01:36:36:22 - 01:36:43:22]
Speaker 2
 I mean, he'd make a good looking Batman. He might make a silly looking first one stuff him into a suit to play the act.

[01:36:43:22 - 01:36:52:11]
Speaker 1
 He's not as gigantic as he is. Tone is my story, Dad. He is so goddamn huge in season three. He's like, "Jesus Christ."

[01:36:54:12 - 01:37:12:01]
Speaker 1
 Well, and he is funny too, but you don't quite get as much in "Reacher," but his first series I watched was like this weird football thing where he played kind of the, he was the good player on the team as the best defensive player, I think. But he was kind of like a kiss-ass and a dork.

[01:37:13:05 - 01:37:32:11]
Speaker 1
 You could tell as the series went on, they figured out, "Oh, this guy is gonna be our number two character behind our quarterback because, wow, they ended up doing a movie after the series was done based on his character." Yeah. And then he did that blood car, whatever that one show was. Oh, I never watched that.

[01:37:32:11 - 01:37:38:03]
Speaker 2
 He was in that one. It's fun. Oh, was it? It's really fun. Oh, okay. Blood drive, bro. Blood drive, yeah. That's awesome.

[01:37:39:07 - 01:37:46:12]
Speaker 2
 I first encountered him on that "Titan" show. Oh, yeah, he was so great in that. Yeah.

[01:37:48:13 - 01:38:01:17]
Speaker 2
 Okay, that's everything. Let's take a break and then we're gonna actually, finally get into our top five picks. Yeah. 25. I'm glad we took this long because I was able to get it straight in my head. Sure. Oh, there you go.

[01:38:01:17 - 01:38:02:23]
Speaker 1
 Glad one of us did.

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Speaker 11
 The year 2025. Unimaginable, consequential, historic, awe-inspiring,

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Speaker 11
 extraordinary. Now, Monday night, December 29th on ABC. 2025.

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Speaker 12
 2025. 2025 was...

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Speaker 13
 Ooh.

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Speaker 14
 Ooh. Ooh.

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Speaker 13
 Ooh. Wild.

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Speaker 14
 Groundbreaking. A lot.

[01:38:32:19 - 01:38:33:08]
Speaker 13
 Epic.

[01:38:33:08 - 01:38:37:21]
Speaker 12
 Oh my gosh. Wow. Awesome. Insane in the best way. 2025 was...

[01:38:37:21 - 01:38:42:18]
Speaker 11
 Gah. Like that. We're running the whole year back, and we mean all of it.

[01:38:42:18 - 01:38:48:19]
Speaker 15
 This year in celebrity trials was wild. If they said baby oil one more time...

[01:38:48:19 - 01:38:49:20]
Speaker 13
 Luigi Mangione.

[01:38:49:20 - 01:38:55:22]
Speaker 16
 It's almost like people are going to watch that court the way that they watched Love Island. From the obsessions.

[01:38:55:22 - 01:38:59:14]
Speaker 12
 It doesn't feel like a competition. It feels just like we're all kind of supporting each other.

[01:38:59:14 - 01:39:01:09]
Speaker 17
 Beyonce, Beyonce, Beyonce.

[01:39:01:09 - 01:39:06:07]
Speaker 14
 I love Lady Gaga. K-pop demon hunters. Stop. That is my number one obsession.

[01:39:06:07 - 01:39:11:21]
Speaker 11
 To what we can't stop talking about. You cannot script this. And can you say...

[01:39:11:21 - 01:39:15:13]
Speaker 13
 Six Seven. Six Seven.

[01:39:15:13 - 01:39:16:12]
Speaker 16
 I don't know what it is.

[01:39:16:12 - 01:39:20:04]
Speaker 12
 Don't have a clue. The celebrities in love. I'm like, Tyler,

[01:39:20:04 - 01:39:22:14]
Speaker 14
 I'm like doing a happy dance all day for her.

[01:39:22:14 - 01:39:27:16]
Speaker 17
 That wedding is going to be the wedding of the freaking century. And out of love.

[01:39:27:16 - 01:39:31:22]
Speaker 12
 Who leaves Nicole Kidman? The breakout stars. Call me a one-hit wonder.

[01:39:31:22 - 01:39:37:11]
Speaker 11
 Hell yeah. What? I won. And the stories we never saw coming. So dumb.

[01:39:37:11 - 01:39:42:23]
Speaker 14
 The booboos are Beanie Babies with Better PR. 2025 was...

[01:39:42:23 - 01:39:44:06]
Speaker 11
 It's wild.

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Speaker 11
 Wow. It's the year 2025 with Robin Roberts. Oh, what a year. Monday night, December 29th at 8, 7 central on ABC.

[01:39:56:04 - 01:40:00:07]
 (Music)

[01:40:00:07 - 01:40:11:13]
Speaker 2
 we have returned. Hey gang, we're talking about our top five of the last year.

[01:40:11:13 - 01:40:13:17]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, 2025, RIP.

[01:40:13:17 - 01:40:15:05]
Speaker 2
 I don't know about you.

[01:40:16:06 - 01:40:27:02]
Speaker 2
 My list was in flux until just before Eric walked in this morning. I had my first, my top. Okay. But everything else was kinda like, pretty interchangeable.

[01:40:27:02 - 01:40:27:16]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:40:29:13 - 01:40:32:05]
Speaker 2
 If you had told me that there were, there would be

[01:40:33:21 - 01:40:42:11]
Speaker 2
 four Stephen King films that were all pretty good last year and none of them made my top five, I'd be like, wow, I have changed as a human, apparently.

[01:40:42:11 - 01:40:54:00]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, it's a crazy year because the strong ones were really strong and there were a lot of like pretty good ones and it's just, yeah, I found it very hard to make this list. Yeah.

[01:40:54:00 - 01:41:14:04]
Speaker 2
 Okay, so we'll do this the way we usually do. If somebody says a movie and somebody else has it lower on their list, we will just skip to the next. So I will start this off and I have a feeling you'll be skipping me completely. Cause my top five, or my number five. All five of you, you guys are gonna have to. Number five is sinners. Mine's tired. You're not with that.

[01:41:15:13 - 01:41:15:16]
 (Laughing)

[01:41:15:16 - 01:41:22:18]
Speaker 2
 I have a feeling that we're gonna have a lot of crossover in this list cause we all like the same movies.

[01:41:22:18 - 01:41:25:23]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. There's a good year, but there is a very much

[01:41:27:09 - 01:41:30:07]
Speaker 1
 bunch that were great and a lot that were good.

[01:41:30:07 - 01:41:36:13]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Okay, well we will wait until we get to the lowest version of that or the highest version of that. I don't know how long you wanna look at it.

[01:41:36:13 - 01:41:47:01]
Speaker 3
 Exactly. Well, my number one, or number five, Jesus, is thunderbolts, which is weird.

[01:41:47:01 - 01:41:59:19]
Speaker 2
 On my list. That was the other thing that I was like, well shoot, do I talk about Fantastic Four or Superman? Which were movies I absolutely fucking love. Yeah. But I think I tried to keep mine horror.

[01:41:59:19 - 01:42:14:05]
Speaker 3
 You know what? Something to talk about. Yeah, let's talk about thunderbolts. I had the same problem where I loved Superman and I loved Fantastic Four. And I think in theory, I thought they were both better movies than this one, but I don't remember anything about them.

[01:42:14:05 - 01:42:14:16]
Speaker 4
 Wow.

[01:42:14:16 - 01:42:25:03]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, they've left my mind and this one stuck with me. And I was so impressed with a superhero movie that was basically about depression.

[01:42:25:03 - 01:42:25:22]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:42:25:22 - 01:42:54:20]
Speaker 3
 That it just-- Is that what I stuck with you? Yeah. I thought they did such a good idea of really delving into this idea of isolation and self-loathing and not being able to understand those feelings and then represent it visually. I just thought they did such a good job. And it was just a way surprise movie. I didn't have any expectations that I was gonna be watchable. And then I was like, shit, this is great. I'm having a really fun time.

[01:42:54:20 - 01:43:02:08]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I think I, I mean, I remember liking that, but I think Captain America had come out just before it and everybody--

[01:43:02:08 - 01:43:04:09]
Speaker 3
 Oh, God, that was so rough.

[01:43:04:09 - 01:43:10:16]
Speaker 2
 And I was like, I liked this just as much as I liked Captain America. So I can't be the one to tell, apparently.

[01:43:10:16 - 01:43:24:08]
Speaker 3
 I definitely hated Captain America, but this was by the same director as Robon and Frank. And also if you saw Beef last year, he did that too. Yeah, so this guy has, yeah, he's got chomps.

[01:43:24:08 - 01:43:33:00]
Speaker 1
 Chomps, chomps. I mean, I love Superman. That one stuck with me quite well. Yeah, me too. That probably would have been, that would have been on this list, probably the same thing. Okay.

[01:43:35:03 - 01:43:37:04]
Speaker 1
 My number five, "Black Phone 2."

[01:43:37:04 - 01:43:43:20]
Speaker 3
 Oh, man. I figured it would be. That is a good pick. I forgot it existed. Oh my God, "Black Phone 2."

[01:43:43:20 - 01:43:59:17]
Speaker 1
 Kind of like you described with "Thunderbolts." There's something about a movie you have no expectations for or maybe even kind of lower expectations for, coming out and just being a lot of fun. Yeah. Being really crazy. I mean, like the,

[01:44:00:21 - 01:44:09:22]
Speaker 1
 your mention of the Freddy's style helped make it much more watchable. Although I saw that almost as the number one reason everybody,

[01:44:11:12 - 01:44:18:11]
Speaker 1
 the little things that were being clever going, well, I discovered this, so now I hate this movie because that was one of the biggest ones.

[01:44:18:11 - 01:44:20:18]
Speaker 3
 Art never steals from other art. True art.

[01:44:20:18 - 01:44:31:14]
Speaker 1
 Okay, fine. You figured it out, that makes sense. But it's a weird reason to use the hate a movie. Yeah. Unless that's your movie.

[01:44:31:14 - 01:44:43:17]
Speaker 3
 But even if you love that movie, you'd be like, "Hey, the last eight of those sucked. This one's really good." If they stole from that, in theory, I should be having a good great time.

[01:44:44:23 - 01:44:46:17]
Speaker 3
 Can we just like films ever?

[01:44:46:17 - 01:45:02:22]
Speaker 2
 This only missed my list for that reason because I struggled with this movie, not because I didn't like it or because it was clearly influenced by "Nightmare" but because it is such an odd sequel to a--

[01:45:02:22 - 01:45:05:06]
Speaker 3
 Oh yeah, it is so weird.

[01:45:05:06 - 01:45:18:03]
Speaker 2
 I was complaining about that, then I went back and watched the original. And I had forgotten that the little girl was like following him to the house in his dreams and everything. And I was like, "This is all kind of set up, but I have to give it to him. I thought it was really good."

[01:45:21:16 - 01:45:24:08]
Speaker 2
 Ethan Hawke didn't need to be in this movie. No.

[01:45:25:08 - 01:45:42:11]
Speaker 3
 He absolutely needed to be in this movie. Are you kidding me? I've never seen his face. Who cares? That makes it even better. That gives me so much respect for Ethan Hawke. He's like, "He did not have to be there. He's fucking in it." I think he makes that villain who he is. He is so awful.

[01:45:42:11 - 01:45:49:02]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, it's fun with it. But you noticed it and it bugged you, but it didn't make you go, "Well, this is terrible."

[01:45:50:07 - 01:46:11:10]
Speaker 2
 No, in fact, it was just like, I either wish, A, this had been the reboot of the "Nightmare on Elm Street" She says. Or that it had just been a standalone movie. Yeah. Because I was fine with the setting and everything like that except I still, after I complained about the winter church.

[01:46:13:09 - 01:46:22:12]
Speaker 2
 Oh, setting? What were they, the camp? Camp, camp. Some camp in winter? By a number of people who had gone to church camps in December. However,

[01:46:23:14 - 01:46:25:23]
Speaker 2
 they were not church camps that were covered with snow.

[01:46:25:23 - 01:46:27:22]
Speaker 1
 That's true. They were in Florida or something.

[01:46:27:22 - 01:46:41:13]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, I think I had mentioned that like, I'd been to at least wondering a very cool time. There was a couple of hours about the time. Yes, exactly. But yes, up on a hill on a mountain side with like four feet of snow is a little less likely.

[01:46:41:13 - 01:46:42:17]
Speaker 1
 Unbelievably dangerous.

[01:46:42:17 - 01:46:46:22]
Speaker 3
 But they did cancel the camp. It's just the counselors got there first.

[01:46:49:02 - 01:46:59:09]
Speaker 2
 Now it's a good movie for sure. Yeah. Okay, well that was interesting. I kind of thought that that'd be on your list. I did not see "Thunderbolts" asterisk, the new Avengers.

[01:46:59:09 - 01:47:00:11]
 (Laughing)

[01:47:02:07 - 01:47:05:08]
Speaker 3
 I knew that might've been a little bit of a surprise. It was for me.

[01:47:05:08 - 01:47:12:19]
Speaker 2
 I wonder if this is gonna be somewhere early for somebody's list then. My number four, "Final Destination Bloodlines." Nope. My number four.

[01:47:12:19 - 01:47:13:10]
 (Laughing)

[01:47:13:10 - 01:47:14:03]
Speaker 3
 Perfect.

[01:47:14:03 - 01:47:18:12]
Speaker 2
 So might as well talk about it then. Directed by...

[01:47:20:21 - 01:47:27:05]
Speaker 2
 Somebody. Some dude. Zach Lipowski and Adam B. Stein. Zach Lipowski? Yeah.

[01:47:27:05 - 01:47:29:01]
Speaker 1
 Like, what's your name from?

[01:47:30:12 - 01:47:33:13]
Speaker 1
 What's your name, Lipowski? Wasn't that a name I wanted to save by the Bill kids?

[01:47:33:13 - 01:47:35:02]
 (Laughing)

[01:47:35:02 - 01:47:40:00]
Speaker 2
 Aren't we the same age here? Why do you know this?

[01:47:42:05 - 01:47:42:14]
 (Laughing)

[01:47:42:14 - 01:47:44:00]
Speaker 2
 Starring Caitlin,

[01:47:45:01 - 01:47:47:03]
Speaker 2
 Santa, boy, Kelly, how about...

[01:47:48:10 - 01:47:49:08]
Speaker 2
 Like a little clear up.

[01:47:49:08 - 01:47:50:19]
Speaker 1
 Right all the time.

[01:47:50:19 - 01:48:07:14]
Speaker 2
 Anyway, you know. Here's the thing. I was talking about Stephen King movies. The monkey is on here. The monkey basically stealing the final destination riff. And "Final Destination" shows up, and I was like, guess what? We still do it better. And the monkey was pretty good at it.

[01:48:07:14 - 01:48:07:22]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:48:07:22 - 01:48:10:23]
Speaker 2
 But man, this "Final Destination" movie was great.

[01:48:10:23 - 01:48:24:17]
Speaker 3
 Oh my God, I still, like I've never really thought much about "The Space Needle." It's just always been there. And now I'm like, fuck. Every time I look it up, I'm like, death trap. That opening sequence was incredible.

[01:48:24:17 - 01:48:39:12]
Speaker 1
 And it was such a great re-imagining of way to tell this story. Yeah. That helped so much. Because I've enjoyed the stupid "Final Destination" but I've always liked them. But they were getting a little tired. Yeah. With the,

[01:48:40:23 - 01:48:47:02]
Speaker 1
 here it is. Here we figured it out. Oh shit, we're all dying. This took that and went, what happened if?

[01:48:47:02 - 01:49:02:02]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, the great idea of like all these other movies have really screwed things up because all these people were supposed to die and then they have kids or whatever. Yeah. All against. I saw, I thought that was a really neat way to pass the person.

[01:49:03:09 - 01:49:29:07]
Speaker 3
 I was just impressed that, I remember seeing the trailer and being like, you literally showed me a whole scene of one of these big set piece. I was like, why should I go see this movie? You've ruined it. And then going and seeing the film and seeing that there are six more of those. And I was like, oh, oh, that's awesome. And the scene ends up playing out so differently in the end. I just, I was really stoked by that. To your point though,

[01:49:29:07 - 01:49:31:02]
Speaker 2
 don't show us a full scene.

[01:49:31:02 - 01:49:36:20]
Speaker 3
 Please don't, no, it's so unnecessary. I still would rather have not had that be their trailer.

[01:49:36:20 - 01:49:38:13]
Speaker 2
 I completely agree.

[01:49:38:13 - 01:49:57:06]
Speaker 1
 And there was also the internet world we lived in where there was all these gifts all over the place of people getting whatever that final moment was. I saw like three or four of them at least before I saw the movie of where people were like, oh, here's where the guy gets squished by a piano or whatever that was or stuff like that.

[01:49:57:06 - 01:49:57:15]
Speaker 2
 Sure.

[01:49:57:15 - 01:49:59:13]
Speaker 1
 Go look.

[01:50:00:15 - 01:50:12:05]
Speaker 2
 We did this completely wrong. So if we were following the rules, it should have gone to then Vanessa after me and we should have talked about this on your turn. So already it's out the window. That's Vanessa, what's your number four?

[01:50:12:05 - 01:50:20:07]
Speaker 3
 My number four. In February we're doing this, so we're good. It's all good. You guys might have this higher on your list. Frankenstein. I do not.

[01:50:21:08 - 01:50:31:10]
Speaker 3
 Really? Not on my time. Whoa. Okay, well this is the newest Guillermo del Toro joints. Came out on Netflix. Was it in theaters at all?

[01:50:31:10 - 01:50:35:22]
Speaker 2
 I think it did a short theatrical run just to make it eligible for awards.

[01:50:35:22 - 01:51:21:16]
Speaker 3
 Which is too bad, because I think this would have been really cool to see in theaters and I did not catch it there. Oscar, Isaac, and as we were just talking about, Jacob Elordi, which is so weird to me because as somebody who seeks out trashy teen romance, I've seen Kissing Booth one, two, and three and that is my only reference point for Jacob Elordi, who is not good in any of those. So to see him be like actually very talented is pretty upsetting. You also have Christoph Waltz, Mia Goff. This is, you know, it didn't fully land for me, which is why it's not higher on the list, but it was a really beautiful movie. I thought that it was just shot so well, it was constructed so well. I liked the pacing.

[01:51:22:16 - 01:51:37:13]
Speaker 3
 I liked that we spent as much time as we did with both main characters. I would have liked more time or maybe a little bit. Something was a little off. I don't know what exactly, but for the most part I felt like they did a really, really wonderful job with Frankenstein that I haven't seen done well.

[01:51:38:16 - 01:51:38:21]
Speaker 3
 Uh.

[01:51:39:21 - 01:51:45:08]
Speaker 3
 I don't wanna say ever, but it's tough. It's tough to think of a good contender.

[01:51:45:08 - 01:51:45:10]
Speaker 2
 helper.

[01:51:46:20 - 01:51:48:04]
Speaker 2
 I liked, uh,

[01:51:49:10 - 01:51:54:03]
Speaker 2
 what's his name? Mary Shelley's Frankenstein? Where Beniro was Frankenstein? No.

[01:51:54:03 - 01:51:55:22]
Speaker 3
 Oh, that's something Riley.

[01:51:55:22 - 01:51:56:16]
Speaker 2
 Mary Riley.

[01:51:58:02 - 01:51:59:16]
Speaker 3
 That's the trailer for Mary Riley.

[01:51:59:16 - 01:52:05:08]
Speaker 2
 No, it was directed by the guy who played Victor Frankenstein, who also directed--

[01:52:07:05 - 01:52:09:02]
Speaker 1
 I remember it is. I remember vaguely.

[01:52:09:02 - 01:52:11:01]
Speaker 2
 The Shakespearean director.

[01:52:11:01 - 01:52:13:20]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, really. Ken Brunner? Yeah.

[01:52:15:01 - 01:52:23:19]
Speaker 2
 I like that one quite a bit. I don't know that I like it better than this one, but I thought it told a very similar story. Sure. It was beautiful.

[01:52:23:19 - 01:52:34:23]
Speaker 1
 I think, for me, Frankenstein was, like we talked about, what we talked about before, is the execution of a film. Absolutely amazing. The story,

[01:52:36:05 - 01:52:37:08]
Speaker 1
 I've seen it a lot.

[01:52:37:08 - 01:52:38:12]
Speaker 3
 It is. That is the tough part.

[01:52:38:12 - 01:52:47:22]
Speaker 1
 It just has that same problem with now with Dracula adaptations, Frankenstein adaptations. That's still pretty true. It's black. We're doing it. I think-- yeah.

[01:52:47:22 - 01:52:53:06]
Speaker 3
 And this is a big year for Universal. I think it's some anniversary or something, because there's a lot of Universal stuff popping off.

[01:52:53:06 - 01:52:57:08]
Speaker 1
 There's the Bride, basically, that Bride one, I think, just opened.

[01:52:57:08 - 01:53:04:02]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, that's coming. It's not out yet, but it's coming. Yeah, Maggie Gyllenhaal directing that one.

[01:53:05:15 - 01:53:12:06]
Speaker 3
 This one, I think the other attractive part to me is the fact, even though the story is something that we've done a million times,

[01:53:14:08 - 01:53:18:05]
Speaker 3
 seeing all the details of this is what London is like.

[01:53:19:10 - 01:53:36:20]
Speaker 3
 Having this lived in interesting spaces and details really helped a lot. Elizabeth isn't normally a very interesting character, but having her be a slight weirdo and connecting with Victor in that way, but also connecting even more to the creature because she's a weirdo outsider,

[01:53:38:01 - 01:53:43:03]
Speaker 3
 there are things that were clicking that I felt worked just a little bit nicer.

[01:53:44:11 - 01:53:48:10]
Speaker 2
 It's interesting to me that Del Toro can get Frankenstein off the ground,

[01:53:49:17 - 01:54:07:11]
Speaker 2
 a public domain story that has been done, not just adapted a million times, but spun off so many times, but can't get in the mountains of madness done because it's public domain and everybody else can also do it.

[01:54:08:18 - 01:54:16:16]
Speaker 2
 The big sticking point was that it's a public domain, so what's to stop asylum from just popping out?

[01:54:17:22 - 01:54:20:11]
Speaker 3
 That's a weak argument. I hadn't heard that.

[01:54:20:11 - 01:54:25:01]
Speaker 2
 That sucks. One of the big ones was that they can't have an idea.

[01:54:25:01 - 01:54:33:18]
Speaker 3
 Oh, no, they can't clamp it. That's stupid. That's some stupid stuff right there, because I think a lot of people would go see Del Toro's nonsense.

[01:54:35:06 - 01:54:37:18]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, but I also then understand,

[01:54:40:05 - 01:54:47:13]
Speaker 2
 let's say Warner Brothers, at the mountains of madness, and then all the asylum has to do is at the mountains of madness, too.

[01:54:47:13 - 01:54:50:21]
Speaker 3
 I don't think people are as in love with asylum as once they were, though.

[01:54:50:21 - 01:54:54:06]
Speaker 2
 No, I thought you were going to say that. I don't think people are that stupid. I guarantee you.

[01:54:54:06 - 01:54:57:11]
Speaker 3
 No, they're definitely that stupid. No, people will make it.

[01:54:58:12 - 01:55:05:10]
Speaker 3
 There's going to be a lot of HP Lovecraft stories. They'll be popping up out of nowhere for no reason, but I don't know how many people actually care.

[01:55:07:07 - 01:55:16:13]
Speaker 3
 I would say you'd have to restrain the budget, because I don't know that HP Lovecraft's as big of a figure as the popular people may not.

[01:55:16:13 - 01:55:17:22]
Speaker 2
 Well, Del Toro would be the--

[01:55:17:22 - 01:55:19:18]
Speaker 3
 That would be the call.

[01:55:19:18 - 01:55:24:04]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Originally, that was supposed to have Tom Hanks connected to it. I'm like, come on, that would have been a gigantic film.

[01:55:24:04 - 01:55:24:19]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[01:55:24:19 - 01:55:26:03]
Speaker 2
 Well, yeah.

[01:55:27:04 - 01:55:30:11]
Speaker 2
 This would be the part where we talked about your film, Eric, which would have been--

[01:55:30:11 - 01:55:31:19]
Speaker 1
 Final Destination Bloodline.

[01:55:33:10 - 01:55:37:00]
Speaker 2
 I'm going to screw it up in case this is lower on somebody else's--

[01:55:39:01 - 01:55:43:09]
Speaker 2
 what are we at, number three? Yep. OK. For me, Predator Badlands.

[01:55:43:09 - 01:55:56:00]
Speaker 1
 Not online. I'm so annoyed, because yesterday I noticed it's streaming now. It's on Google. Oh, shit. And I didn't have time. Oh. So it did not-- but I will probably be watching it in the next three days.

[01:55:56:00 - 01:56:06:00]
Speaker 2
 Well, Dan Trachtenberg directed this. The best thing that has happened to Predator since the original movie starring Al Fanning and-- oh, boy.

[01:56:07:11 - 01:56:11:22]
Speaker 2
 Demetrius Schuster-- what about my tiny mouthy?

[01:56:13:17 - 01:56:14:10]
Speaker 1
 Think I can help?

[01:56:17:05 - 01:56:44:11]
Speaker 2
 He turned a buddy film into a Predator movie and also tied in Weyland-Yutani into the Predator world. And it's so much fun. I mean, there's no humans in this storyline at all. And now you're rooting for the person who has been the villain in every movie coming up to this. That's brilliant. It's funny. And it's gorgeous.

[01:56:44:11 - 01:56:46:22]
Speaker 3
 It's so much better than it has on your right to be.

[01:56:48:00 - 01:57:04:14]
Speaker 2
 And now you're like, well, sorry, Dan. This is what you do now. It's a Predator movie. You did Killer Killers this last year also, which was the animated one, which was way better than it had on your right to be. I saw him not saying that, but-- It's got an ending that'll make you go, oh.

[01:57:06:17 - 01:57:09:05]
Speaker 3
 Note to self, ending. Go, oh.

[01:57:09:05 - 01:57:14:10]
Speaker 2
 Yes. So Predator Badlands, like Eric said, is now streaming for free if you've got who.

[01:57:15:12 - 01:57:17:01]
Speaker 2
 And it is worth it.

[01:57:19:21 - 01:57:20:17]
Speaker 2
 Best Predator movie?

[01:57:22:01 - 01:57:27:18]
Speaker 2
 You almost have to give it to Predator just because it starts the franchise and it's a good movie here. This is a better movie.

[01:57:27:18 - 01:57:28:13]
Speaker 3
 Nice.

[01:57:30:18 - 01:57:36:06]
Speaker 3
 My number three is definitely going to be higher on somebody else's list, Sinners. Yep. Yeah.

[01:57:36:06 - 01:57:37:10]
Speaker 4
 Oh, wow.

[01:57:37:10 - 01:57:38:11]
Speaker 1
 Keep on rolling.

[01:57:40:06 - 01:57:46:11]
Speaker 1
 So my number three is-- I wouldn't say I enjoyed this film, but it's brilliant. Let's bring her back.

[01:57:46:11 - 01:57:53:22]
Speaker 3
 Oh, god. I refuse to put it on my list because I was so soul sucking. I didn't want to scrub this from my brain.

[01:57:55:08 - 01:58:03:11]
Speaker 3
 It is a rough ride. It is an incredible film. I give you that, but I never want to-- I don't want to stick it with a 20-foot ball.

[01:58:03:11 - 01:58:15:19]
Speaker 1
 This will not go in my collection. This will not be something I want you to-- Yeah, don't bring it in your house. Yeah, I guess there are films that I like that. But the filmmakers, these two guys, and what they've been doing-- Yeah. Their ability to make--

[01:58:17:17 - 01:58:22:23]
Speaker 1
 yeah. You don't even want to think about the films. It's like there's the moments with the film. I know.

[01:58:22:23 - 01:58:23:13]
Speaker 4
 Yes.

[01:58:23:13 - 01:58:32:15]
Speaker 1
 How do you create something like that so ungodly effectively in the world we live in now where everything seems so--

[01:58:32:15 - 01:58:39:20]
Speaker 3
 With an actress who normally is just so likable, but to take that and twist it is pretty remarkable.

[01:58:41:02 - 01:58:47:09]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, this is on the list because I think it is an absolutely brilliantly executed film. But it is also one that will--

[01:58:48:19 - 01:58:51:19]
Speaker 2
 I would agree. I also made sure my list was my favorites.

[01:58:51:19 - 01:58:52:15]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[01:58:53:19 - 01:58:56:10]
Speaker 3
 Ones that brought me any light of joy at all.

[01:58:56:10 - 01:59:03:17]
Speaker 2
 This movie is such a downer and so fucking creepy.

[01:59:05:00 - 01:59:11:10]
Speaker 2
 And then you listen to the Bozo brothers in any interview. They're the wackiest--

[01:59:11:10 - 01:59:14:03]
Speaker 3
 They sound like they're incapable.

[01:59:14:03 - 01:59:19:13]
Speaker 2
 Are we being strict here? This is not the two guys that made Talk to Me and Bring the Band.

[01:59:19:13 - 01:59:21:15]
Speaker 3
 It's crazy. It's out of control.

[01:59:21:15 - 01:59:24:09]
Speaker 1
 A little closer to Talk to Me with the party element.

[01:59:25:17 - 01:59:27:11]
Speaker 1
 But not really.

[01:59:27:11 - 01:59:30:02]
Speaker 2
 Yes. I'm pissed that you put this on.

[01:59:30:02 - 01:59:45:10]
Speaker 3
 I will say this was one of those movies that after having a kid made it so much worse. So much worse because your instinct to protect sticks in. And you're like, fucking everything sucks right now. Why would you fucking do that to a child?

[01:59:46:16 - 01:59:58:02]
Speaker 3
 Anyway. I thought I told you don't watch this one. Oh, I know. I know. You can't not watch a movie that everybody is like, this is one of the best movies I've ever seen with my eyeballs.

[01:59:58:02 - 02:00:16:10]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, the reviews on this one were weird. It's kind of like, OK, I'm guessing this is the getting older thing where you watch things with a slightly different mindset. Where you know, when you're 15, 17, you watch this movie, it's going to be very different. Yeah. Oh, totally.

[02:00:17:10 - 02:00:17:14]
Speaker 3
 Totally.

[02:00:18:16 - 02:00:34:21]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, things just hate you in a different new way. I mean, I think it's upsetting to everyone for their own reasons. It would be very upsetting to people coming of age. It would be very upsetting to watch this as people with siblings that they feel like they have to look after. But it's very upsetting from a parent perspective too.

[02:00:35:22 - 02:00:38:00]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, or anyone who's-- You

[02:00:38:00 - 02:00:46:22]
Speaker 1
 could pull out the insane spiritual elements of it and just the storyline of the kids and the parents. That's also--

[02:00:46:22 - 02:00:48:03]
Speaker 3
 Oh, god, it's heroin.

[02:00:49:09 - 02:00:50:19]
Speaker 2
 Moving on. Yeah.

[02:00:50:19 - 02:00:52:03]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, god.

[02:00:52:03 - 02:01:01:16]
Speaker 2
 Well, I imagine this will be maybe earlier on your list. Oh, probably on your list too. Maybe at the same spot. Number two for me is weapons.

[02:01:01:16 - 02:01:02:10]
Speaker 3
 It's higher.

[02:01:02:10 - 02:01:04:20]
Speaker 2
 Higher. Oh, nice. OK.

[02:01:04:20 - 02:01:05:07]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[02:01:05:07 - 02:01:11:05]
Speaker 2
 And that's your number two? Yeah. So we will wait till we get to you to talk to-- and then we'll move to Vanessa for your number two.

[02:01:11:05 - 02:01:14:22]
Speaker 3
 My number two is heart eyes. Oh, wow.

[02:01:14:22 - 02:01:20:14]
Speaker 2
 This just missed my top five. Ah. It was on my top five until Eric walked in.

[02:01:20:14 - 02:01:26:15]
Speaker 3
 I had so much fun with this movie. I mean, this movie brought me so much joy.

[02:01:26:15 - 02:01:27:11]
Speaker 2
 It's so good.

[02:01:27:11 - 02:01:38:15]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. I just-- it hit that romantic comedy horror in a way I just did not see coming and just-- I just fell in love with it so hard.

[02:01:38:15 - 02:01:42:05]
Speaker 2
 It is a great film. Yeah. It is shockingly gory

[02:01:42:05 - 02:01:43:20]
Speaker 3
 for our silly-- Yes.

[02:01:43:20 - 02:01:43:21]
 (Inaudible)

[02:01:43:21 - 02:02:07:11]
Speaker 3
 It's super fucking gory. But the two leads that you're following through who are like, we are not on a date. We are not together. Do not follow us anymore. It just-- it really was such a wonderful set of characters to be rooting for. And you're like, are they going to-- one of them going to push the other one out in front of the killer just to save themselves or--

[02:02:08:15 - 02:02:15:11]
Speaker 3
 and this was directed by the same person who did Werewolves Within and some other stuff I've never heard of.

[02:02:15:11 - 02:02:16:06]
Speaker 1
 But--

[02:02:18:00 - 02:02:21:16]
Speaker 1
 Did you see that Crip Peronciello's got a couple of people from Hard Eyes?

[02:02:21:16 - 02:02:30:13]
Speaker 3
 Oh, nice. No. I did not realize. Who from-- Josh Rubin? Oh, interesting. I think Josh Rubin. Oh,

[02:02:31:17 - 02:02:32:20]
Speaker 3
 he was the director.

[02:02:33:21 - 02:02:34:01]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[02:02:34:01 - 02:02:34:08]
Speaker 4
 Cool.

[02:02:34:08 - 02:02:38:21]
Speaker 3
 And it's starring Mason Gooding and Olivia Holtz.

[02:02:38:21 - 02:02:40:23]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, and set in Seattle.

[02:02:40:23 - 02:02:55:07]
Speaker 3
 That was the only part that really pissed me off. I, to this day, will say-- and granted, I'm old. And I have not been to a rooftop bar in Seattle in a minute. But I do not think that that would fly.

[02:02:55:07 - 02:02:58:02]
Speaker 1
 That's dude. You would see that from anywhere in the city.

[02:02:58:02 - 02:03:08:05]
Speaker 3
 I have been to many-- during the summer times, I had been seeking out rooftop bars at one point. I will tell you, that did not take place.

[02:03:08:05 - 02:03:09:16]
Speaker 1
 Another guy is the guy who plays Hard Eyes.

[02:03:10:18 - 02:03:13:13]
Speaker 3
 Oh, sure. OK. He is--

[02:03:15:04 - 02:03:19:18]
Speaker 3
 I don't even see him listed on here. But he's-- yes. Yeah.

[02:03:19:18 - 02:03:22:22]
Speaker 2
 Right across from the Neptune, I think it's called the Mountaineering Club.

[02:03:24:06 - 02:03:25:15]
Speaker 2
 That's a rooftop bar you love.

[02:03:25:15 - 02:03:26:05]
Speaker 3
 Oh, really?

[02:03:26:05 - 02:03:27:07]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, it's really swanky.

[02:03:28:10 - 02:03:30:00]
Speaker 3
 New district. Interesting. Yeah.

[02:03:31:03 - 02:03:41:12]
Speaker 3
 My family has been in Seattle forever. So a bunch of my family was in the Mountaineers, including my dad. So I'm like, I bet he was-- he also worked at the REI that used to be down there, too, on Capitol.

[02:03:42:12 - 02:03:44:09]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Not the new one?

[02:03:44:09 - 02:03:47:06]
Speaker 3
 That one didn't exist. Right. Yeah.

[02:03:48:08 - 02:03:48:10]
 (Laughter)

[02:03:48:10 - 02:03:55:07]
Speaker 3
 I'm talking-- he was a model in their catalogs. Because they would just get employees and just take pictures of them in their gear.

[02:03:56:16 - 02:04:04:15]
Speaker 2
 I love that scene in the movie where they're at the drive-in, which is a thing long gone from Seattle, unfortunately.

[02:04:04:15 - 02:04:05:07]
Speaker 3
 Oh, I know.

[02:04:05:07 - 02:04:10:18]
Speaker 2
 But also, it seems to be at the base of the Space Needle. I was like, yes, why couldn't we have that?

[02:04:10:18 - 02:04:11:08]
Speaker 1
 Let's just do it.

[02:04:11:08 - 02:04:20:22]
Speaker 3
 Take the mural, fate, and turn it into a-- Yeah, get all the grass out of there. Who cares? Just live with the cars, drive on up. Just install permanent cars. It's great.

[02:04:20:22 - 02:04:27:21]
Speaker 2
 Just go. I'm thrilled that this is on anybody's list, especially that level. That's great.

[02:04:27:21 - 02:04:38:00]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, I absolutely loved Hard Eyes. So big, great film. When I saw it on my list of films I'd seen this year, I was like, yes, absolutely. You are. You're there.

[02:04:38:00 - 02:04:39:17]
Speaker 1
 Oh, yes. Weapons.

[02:04:41:12 - 02:04:44:19]
Speaker 2
 Wait a second, though. Isn't it higher on your list? It is. It's your number one. So I'm not going to talk about it.

[02:04:44:19 - 02:04:45:10]
Speaker 4
 It's my number one.

[02:04:45:10 - 02:04:50:18]
Speaker 2
 So we get-- You go to your number one. Well, my number one is DustBuddy. I agree with you.

[02:04:50:18 - 02:04:53:00]
Speaker 3
 I still haven't seen it, but--

[02:04:54:03 - 02:04:58:14]
Speaker 2
 Directed by Brian Fuller, his first film gig.

[02:04:59:15 - 02:05:08:23]
Speaker 2
 He was, of course, the creator of Hannibal. And I think he did Dead Like Me or something like that. And I believe he was also the first season

[02:05:10:01 - 02:05:11:17]
Speaker 2
 showrunner for Voyager.

[02:05:13:11 - 02:05:20:21]
Speaker 2
 One of the Star Trek ones that everybody loved until he skipped out. And then the new guy came in, and they were all like, this show sucks now.

[02:05:22:04 - 02:05:51:12]
Speaker 2
 And Brian Fuller was like, that's what you get when you treat me like shit. Yeah, it's how it goes. It stars Mads Mikkelsen and Sigourney Weaver and this new, lovely young girl, Sophie Sloan, who's 10 years old. She thinks she has a monster under the bed, and she has hired the guy across the hall to kill it. It is chef's kiss. It is so good. It is my favorite movie, not of this year, but of every year.

[02:05:51:12 - 02:05:56:12]
Speaker 3
 Excellent. So this is your favorite movie now? I just love that. Update the letterbox.

[02:05:56:12 - 02:06:05:14]
Speaker 2
 I've seen it five times now. Wow. I just can't stop watching it. Like, if I'm like, what did I watch? Well, I got DustBuddy on my plate. I guess I'll just watch that.

[02:06:07:10 - 02:06:14:23]
Speaker 3
 Man, I almost watched it last night and then was not able to quite make that work.

[02:06:14:23 - 02:06:26:03]
Speaker 2
 Well, and I am learning it is not for everybody. So this was my number one movie of the year. And there are a lot of people out there with reviews going, this movie is awful.

[02:06:26:03 - 02:06:36:03]
Speaker 3
 I think that's the best, though. When that's your favorite, but other people are not-- when something hits for you and it really speaks specifically to you, I think that's just awesome.

[02:06:36:03 - 02:06:44:18]
Speaker 1
 There's also the world of 10 years from now. Yeah. There's going to be a lot of people out there.

[02:06:44:18 - 02:06:49:14]
Speaker 2
 The unfortunate thing about that, the world from 10 years from now, is that this--

[02:06:50:15 - 02:07:02:21]
Speaker 2
 I don't know how this did in the theater. It was not in the theater for very long. It was really hard to find in the theater and didn't make any money. And so what does that do for Brian Fuller? Is he giving another chance?

[02:07:02:21 - 02:07:07:10]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, that's-- John Carpenter can give him some help speaking

[02:07:07:10 - 02:07:19:04]
Speaker 2
 of which he was attached to the Christine remake. And he had a pretty interesting take on that. And then the way these things all go, it just kind of fell apart. So that was supposed to be his first feature film.

[02:07:19:04 - 02:07:19:14]
Speaker 1
 Wow.

[02:07:20:19 - 02:07:23:06]
Speaker 1
 So yeah, he did both Voyager and Discovery.

[02:07:23:06 - 02:07:24:12]
Speaker 2
 And Discovery, OK.

[02:07:26:07 - 02:07:27:08]
Speaker 3
 What part of Discovery?

[02:07:28:08 - 02:07:29:18]
Speaker 2
 I think he was the first.

[02:07:29:18 - 02:07:31:12]
Speaker 1
 2017 to 2024?

[02:07:33:20 - 02:07:34:19]
Speaker 1
 All of it?

[02:07:36:10 - 02:07:44:09]
Speaker 2
 That's because he's listed as a producer or something. But I think he was a showrunner on the first season. So if you hated the first season, that's probably--

[02:07:44:09 - 02:07:49:22]
Speaker 1
 Created by-- I don't know that I-- Teleplay by and Story by for all 65 episodes.

[02:07:49:22 - 02:08:07:01]
Speaker 3
 I just don't know which part of Discovery I hate the most. So it's hard for me to say if it's the first season or where it ended up. So at least the first season, I think, was comparable. It just-- or comprehensive? He was in Voyager. Was the other one? But I love Voyager. So yeah.

[02:08:07:01 - 02:08:11:22]
Speaker 2
 So it was the other guy who's come on, Alex Kurtzman, took over-- Pizza.

[02:08:11:22 - 02:08:12:22]
 (Clears Throat)

[02:08:12:22 - 02:08:16:02]
Speaker 3
 Took over this-- Pizza Kurtzman is what that guy is.

[02:08:16:02 - 02:08:20:01]
Speaker 2
 So I know that Fuller hasn't been on it since the first season.

[02:08:20:01 - 02:08:24:18]
Speaker 3
 Well, I wish Kurtzman would stop touching Star Trek.

[02:08:26:04 - 02:08:30:23]
Speaker 1
 Man, four episodes of Heroes pushing Daisy's dead like me? Good Lord.

[02:08:30:23 - 02:08:36:03]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, two's really a lot of really good stuff. No kidding. Pushing Daisy's-- I forgot about that.

[02:08:36:03 - 02:08:41:07]
Speaker 2
 I will argue about it forever. I think Hannibal is the best character. I realized I got a reason to do it.

[02:08:41:07 - 02:08:42:23]
Speaker 3
 I'm like three episodes in.

[02:08:44:01 - 02:08:48:07]
Speaker 3
 It's hard to watch something that makes you feel uncomfortable when you just want to relax.

[02:08:49:08 - 02:08:55:02]
Speaker 2
 Well, this show will make you feel uncomfortable. Exactly. Also, it makes you go, man, that looks delicious. But I know what's in it, so--

[02:08:57:08 - 02:08:57:11]
 (Laughter)

[02:08:57:11 - 02:08:58:04]
Speaker 1
 Cooking shows.

[02:08:58:04 - 02:09:00:14]
Speaker 3
 Well, my number one is Weapons.

[02:09:01:17 - 02:09:07:01]
Speaker 3
 Directed by Zach Kregor, who had previously done Barbarian.

[02:09:08:07 - 02:09:12:15]
Speaker 3
 He came from White As Kids. Is it You Know or I Know? White As Kids, You Know.

[02:09:13:23 - 02:09:15:06]
Speaker 3
 It's Bananas.

[02:09:17:10 - 02:09:35:10]
Speaker 3
 This movie, it felt like a miracle to me. I don't know. There's something about it that works so well. The pacing, the acting, the story telling, the editing. It's just an amazing way to edit a movie. I rewatched it pretty recently.

[02:09:36:15 - 02:09:39:11]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, retelling. I mean, you're doing a Rashomon, but not--

[02:09:40:15 - 02:09:53:18]
Speaker 3
 I just really loved it a lot. And of course, Julia Garner, I think it really opened me up to her being good. I hadn't seen her in a lot before this. Josh Brolin is fantastic.

[02:09:56:00 - 02:09:58:14]
Speaker 3
 And then you also get Of Course.

[02:10:00:01 - 02:10:01:07]
Speaker 3
 That's who I'm looking for.

[02:10:02:09 - 02:10:05:14]
Speaker 3
 She just blows it away.

[02:10:05:14 - 02:10:18:21]
Speaker 2
 Holy hell. There was so much that could have gone wrong in the way he's putting this movie together. It could have been like, I don't want to see this story play out four times, and everything was done right.

[02:10:18:21 - 02:10:38:13]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, the reveal. I thought while watching the movie, I remember thinking, oh, it's some weird monster clown thing. And then eventually when you get to the villain, you're like, oh, oh, this is fucking crazy. This is cool. Holy shit. It just starts really unraveling.

[02:10:38:13 - 02:11:00:05]
Speaker 1
 Well, that's one of my favorite little things in stories. I remember I think it was the original interview with the vampire. There's a segment in there that is told from the Stott's point of view. And I loved that way or it's the other way around interview. But they're right at three years ago. But I love seeing stories from different people's points of view.

[02:11:00:05 - 02:11:00:10]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[02:11:00:10 - 02:11:08:01]
Speaker 1
 Same thing. And they're rarely executed really well. But Jesus, this one, it's just like, oh, shit.

[02:11:08:01 - 02:11:17:10]
Speaker 3
 There was just a lot of thought in it. Like having everything lead to the same point. And there's no weird loosey goosey pieces.

[02:11:17:10 - 02:11:31:09]
Speaker 1
 It didn't hit. Each person's story told what they would have known. And that pushed the story a little further each time as opposed to here's the exact story from four different ways.

[02:11:31:09 - 02:11:32:00]
Speaker 3
 Exactly.

[02:11:33:04 - 02:11:54:01]
Speaker 3
 No. And like rewatching it, I noticed just more things to appreciate. The lighting is incredible. There's a lot of just natural triangles that they found and put within it. So there's structures of triangles. There's areas they've left as triangles. They've done some good stuff to just visually keep planting these concepts within it.

[02:11:54:01 - 02:12:02:07]
Speaker 2
 I love the Ray Bradbury feel of a witch and children in danger in a small town.

[02:12:02:07 - 02:12:03:06]
Speaker 4
 It is such a fairy tale.

[02:12:03:06 - 02:12:14:17]
Speaker 2
 And then the witchcraft in it feels so visceral and tactile that you're just like, oh, I don't know what's going on there. But that is definitely black magic.

[02:12:14:17 - 02:12:42:14]
Speaker 3
 Right. We've all heard of Hansel and Gretel a million times. And you're like, man, it's really fucked up. She wants to fatten up this kid and eat it. That's a pretty dark story. And you forget just how messed up that witch and children relationship is. And then watching that occur where you're like, this poor kid is stuck in a fucking horrible fairy tale where he's got to try to feed soup out of cans to his parents and to-- yeah. Incredible.

[02:12:44:09 - 02:12:48:16]
Speaker 3
 Anyway, so that was my film of the year. I just-- Most definitely. Yeah. Really blown away.

[02:12:48:16 - 02:12:54:17]
Speaker 1
 I like that each of us want to have a different favorite. Yeah. Yeah. You know, sinners. Yes. They'll sit on top for me.

[02:12:55:20 - 02:13:05:06]
Speaker 1
 There's so much I love about this. And number one, still the music. I love the build up,

[02:13:06:20 - 02:13:29:21]
Speaker 1
 bringing the band together, that first scene where the kid plays and integrating all the eras of music into it. It's just like, wow, this is brilliant. And then the wild Irish dance later on is also really good, but a totally different style of film. And Michael B. Jordan is just so much fun to watch on screen. No kidding.

[02:13:29:21 - 02:13:37:02]
Speaker 3
 He's-- the fact that he's playing two different characters that are twins, but they feel like too unique-- you forget that it's one guy.

[02:13:37:02 - 02:14:07:12]
Speaker 1
 That's-- He does a really neat job of making them just different but also still brothers. You know, the-- Yeah. The Yeah. I have a weird theory on all the Oscars they've got nominated was, you know, this year, the instant thing where you actually have to watch the movies that you nominate for Oscars. So this is one of the films-- there's a reason so few films got so many nominations is because those are the ones they watch. Yep. That's often. They did offer to watch this weird abstract French one

[02:14:10:03 - 02:14:17:14]
Speaker 1
 but that would have gotten like four nominations two or three years ago because everybody knew they should nominate it but didn't actually watch it.

[02:14:17:14 - 02:14:21:19]
Speaker 3
 How did-- how are they making sure they're getting watched? I think this is part of an indication.

[02:14:21:19 - 02:14:24:16]
Speaker 1
 I mean, singers is great. 16 Oscars great?

[02:14:24:16 - 02:14:28:08]
Speaker 2
 Right, ensuring that it will win none. Probably.

[02:14:28:08 - 02:14:29:14]
Speaker 3
 Probably, yeah.

[02:14:29:14 - 02:14:33:03]
Speaker 2
 That's broken all records. And so we know how that works.

[02:14:33:03 - 02:14:40:01]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, Ryan Coogler is so important to whatever he does. Yeah, he is killing it.

[02:14:40:01 - 02:14:40:07]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[02:14:40:07 - 02:14:43:02]
Speaker 1
 I really liked Creed. The Black Panther films were fun.

[02:14:43:02 - 02:14:45:07]
Speaker 3
 Creed was so well done.

[02:14:45:07 - 02:14:55:17]
Speaker 1
 And the one-- I spoke on it before about all the dress that again, the one controversy. Were it ripped off from "Dressed Till Dawn"? It's like, no, it didn't. It's a very similar storyline.

[02:14:56:17 - 02:15:01:17]
Speaker 1
 If it had been zombies instead of vampires, would it not have bothered you as much? But since it's vampires, it's got

[02:15:01:17 - 02:15:17:16]
Speaker 2
 to be-- I think the people who are saying that are kind of mixing up the idea that what it ripped off was the format of it starts off as one movie and then ends as a completely different movie. Yeah, which is not an uncommon thing in films. And it just happens that both those movies have vampires.

[02:15:17:16 - 02:15:19:01]
Speaker 1
 And they're also--

[02:15:20:10 - 02:15:44:19]
Speaker 1
 when that happens, usually in films, it's more of a subtle change. This one is so-- they're both such a hard edge between the first half and the second half that it's very much two different movies. Even a bit of a third little movie with the total MC, where he takes out all the people that were fucking him over. So still love it.

[02:15:46:04 - 02:15:54:23]
Speaker 3
 And that scene with Jack O'Connell, who this guy is just freaking everywhere, but showing up and doing the creepiest--

[02:15:56:12 - 02:16:11:01]
Speaker 3
 I want to say hokey. That's not the right word. Homey, little folksy Irish ditty. And it is just horrifying. As you're watching it, you're like, these guys are bad. This is evil.

[02:16:12:15 - 02:16:19:10]
Speaker 3
 And any other time, you'd just be like, oh, man, change the channel. It's just some family up on a stage doing this freaking folk shit.

[02:16:19:10 - 02:16:26:15]
Speaker 1
 And the brief scene with the Native American group, there were vampire hunters. Like, can we see more of these days?

[02:16:26:15 - 02:16:31:17]
Speaker 2
 Well, I mean, there's two more movies. I'd like to see that. And then I'd like to see--

[02:16:33:01 - 02:16:44:03]
Speaker 2
 we got the Stinger at the end, where they come into the new club in modern times. I was like, I want to know what they were doing all this time.

[02:16:45:17 - 02:16:46:21]
Speaker 3
 A Real Bonnie and Clyde.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah, it's a very, very good movie.

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Speaker 2
 I have a bunch of things that almost made my list. I don't know about you guys.

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Speaker 3
 Yes, absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
 Let's see. I'm just going to kind of run through it one more time and tell me if you saw them or cared about them. Until Dawn, I thought was pretty good, which was the time--

[02:17:06:13 - 02:17:09:13]
Speaker 3
 I did not see it. I've played the game. It's on

[02:17:09:13 - 02:17:14:03]
Speaker 2
 Macs, Hulu, or Netflix or something. So it's available to stream.

[02:17:15:15 - 02:17:16:09]
Speaker 2
 Primitive War.

[02:17:17:23 - 02:17:20:08]
Speaker 3
 Did not see it. But I know.

[02:17:20:08 - 02:17:24:01]
Speaker 1
 It was OK for me. I mean, it was fun. It was a lot of fun.

[02:17:24:01 - 02:17:29:21]
Speaker 2
 There was too much story there once again. I did the wormhole and everything. I was like, why couldn't they have just found dinosaurs?

[02:17:29:21 - 02:17:32:08]
Speaker 1
 Yes. But yeah, it was fun.

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Speaker 2
 This is what I'm talking about. The Running Man, The Long Walk, The Monkey, The Life of Chuck. All of these are arguably very good movies and by my favorite writer are based on his stuff. And none of them made my top five.

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Speaker 1
 The Long Walk was really close, I'm like--

[02:17:49:09 - 02:17:50:17]
Speaker 2
 Long Walk is good.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. I wanted all those actors to be played by younger actors, or at least younger looking actors. Because in the book, they're all like 13. The oldest one is 18. And it makes the impact a lot harder.

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Speaker 2
 Marshmallow, I know you like that one. That was really good.

[02:18:08:23 - 02:18:10:01]
Speaker 4
 Yeah, that was really good.

[02:18:10:01 - 02:18:11:10]
Speaker 2
 Good boy.

[02:18:12:10 - 02:18:25:21]
Speaker 2
 I'm fucking Doug. Got nominated. That pissed me off. If you're a human actor and you're like, look, nominate the director for directing this dog to be that good, but that dog is not--

[02:18:25:21 - 02:18:30:06]
Speaker 3
 There is a special specific dog only award there.

[02:18:30:06 - 02:18:40:16]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, like they did that years ago where they gave all the little Oscars to the Snow White and then the Seven Dwarfs. There's some-- yeah, shoot like that for the dog. Give him a little bone or something.

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Speaker 2
 I haven't even talked about-- but it did hit me pretty hard. Strange Harvest, which was a faux documentary

[02:18:49:07 - 02:18:51:06]
Speaker 2
 about a serial killer.

[02:18:51:06 - 02:18:52:22]
Speaker 1
 Oh, was that a Lovecraft?

[02:18:53:23 - 02:19:07:12]
Speaker 2
 Oh, I don't know. But I just watched it streaming. So it might have been. And it was done very, very well and very creepy. And there's something in the sky like a void that is coming. I thought that was really good.

[02:19:08:22 - 02:19:11:01]
Speaker 2
 Apple TV had The Gorge with Miles Teller.

[02:19:11:01 - 02:19:16:01]
Speaker 3
 Was that this year? Yeah. God, that was a great movie. That was fun. That was fun.

[02:19:16:01 - 02:19:18:01]
Speaker 2
 Beast of War, that shark movie.

[02:19:18:01 - 02:19:21:23]
Speaker 3
 That was on my list of special mentions too. Beast of War was really lovely.

[02:19:21:23 - 02:19:26:20]
Speaker 1
 That one fits in that whole how is this-- how is this this good guy?

[02:19:26:20 - 02:19:30:23]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, darn it. And I was surprised. I thought one of you guys would have said companion.

[02:19:32:03 - 02:19:41:09]
Speaker 2
 No. That was right there. I was trading that with the hard eyes. And then it got kicked out.

[02:19:41:09 - 02:19:56:08]
Speaker 3
 I think companion-- I think it did a great job. And I really liked a lot about it. But it used a lot of ideas I've seen before. And so I think I just was like, ah. It was a great way to start the year. That's how you knew good horror was coming this year.

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Speaker 2
 One of those films, unfortunately, we get posters that give things away and trailers that give things away. But I don't know how you can convince an audience to come see a movie with a twist like that if they're not into those kind of movies in the first place. So I don't know how you surprise an audience anymore.

[02:20:13:19 - 02:20:19:22]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, well, you definitely don't put it in the trailer. Very obvious clues about it.

[02:20:19:22 - 02:20:21:08]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I'm like, you come on.

[02:20:21:08 - 02:20:22:06]
Speaker 1
 Like the little kid vampire

[02:20:22:06 - 02:20:26:21]
Speaker 2
 thing too. Yeah. Wait a second. What's that this year? That was also pretty good.

[02:20:27:23 - 02:20:29:08]
Speaker 2
 That one. The ballerina vampire.

[02:20:29:08 - 02:20:33:07]
Speaker 3
 Oh, yeah. Abigail. I think that was 23.

[02:20:34:10 - 02:20:36:02]
Speaker 3
 Well, I'm not sure. That was a good movie.

[02:20:37:03 - 02:20:39:06]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, I would only add to that list.

[02:20:40:15 - 02:21:20:17]
Speaker 3
 K-pop demon hunters. That would have definitely been in my top five. But there was-- I just don't love that they introduced this love story in it. And they 0% paid that off. And that really frustrated me. It didn't go anywhere. They just were like-- there was no reason for it. And I really found that frustrating because I think that they spent so much time building it up. And then they were like, but girl, power. And I'm like, you can have girl power movies. And you can have romance movies. But to do both kind of is not-- it just didn't sit with me. It had incredible music. It was a great movie. But they belly flopped that part of the plot.

[02:21:22:04 - 02:21:25:11]
Speaker 3
 Knives Out, Wake Up Dead Man was awesome.

[02:21:27:10 - 02:21:37:20]
Speaker 3
 Oh, it's so good. OK, I won't say anything about it. But just check it out. It's awesome. And then One Battle After Another is an incredible show as well.

[02:21:37:20 - 02:21:45:20]
Speaker 1
 I won, but not nearly as much as I thought I would. Really? I think it was stretched out a little.

[02:21:45:20 - 02:22:13:07]
Speaker 1
 It was just like long. Yeah, it's just not that it was long but that it was The story was pulled longer than it needed to be sure but I did I don't disagree I think the stuff that's good is so freaking good. Yeah And what is that Paul? Paul Thomas? Yeah Paul Thomas- I've had that problem with a lot of his films where it's like a little story told in a long time Yeah, but so it was pretty it was fun.

[02:22:13:07 - 02:22:45:22]
Speaker 3
 The characters that they he created for that I think I just really loved the worlds he was making that like I don't know like when a lot of films you see have pretty one dimensional Barely two dimensional let alone three dimensional characters But to really craft some some whole person that you're like I could just watch you all day doing whatever the fuck you get up to is and that's how I felt about He was not in it he stole the show and he said almost nothing

[02:22:48:08 - 02:22:54:11]
Speaker 1
 I got one that I enjoyed that everybody will hate for me drawing this hand

[02:22:56:07 - 02:22:56:14]
Speaker 1
 I

[02:22:56:14 - 02:22:58:13]
Speaker 3
 never thought it's

[02:22:58:13 - 02:23:28:04]
Speaker 1
 just crazy. It's dumb. It's nothing to do with football I just found it really interesting. Here's a weird one Shocking influencers How I yeah, it's one of the few films that takes those obnoxious Influencer based movies and kind of does something with it People get obsessed there's they've got a

[02:23:31:16 - 02:24:00:06]
Speaker 1
 Alpha male douche kind of guy who's not really what he appears to be And then you know when he's online he's one thing but when he's off-line he's some different And then there's another lady who is trying to meet him and stuff. There's It's just silly following people around having fun killing people And once they came completely out of nowhere Queens of the dead I

[02:24:00:06 - 02:24:02:21]
Speaker 2
 Thought

[02:24:02:21 - 02:24:14:01]
Speaker 1
 it was just such a fun it it starts off a little weird But once it gets going and the zombie things start kicking in it becomes a lot of fun And it's just a very different

[02:24:15:13 - 02:24:28:03]
Speaker 1
 Mental approach to the storyline for the world that it's it's a Style performance of men and women

[02:24:43:06 - 02:24:45:16]
Speaker 1
 In different ways It's just a different world

[02:24:47:04 - 02:25:14:17]
Speaker 1
 And I like movies that Okay that are made in a world that I Don't live in yeah, so I get a little bit of an insight into People who live in that world making this movie with those people that live in that world What big mistake it makes it's very fun and light-hearted through most of the movie, but then they do these two

[02:25:21:17 - 02:25:27:07]
Speaker 1
 Necessary tone change and then try to pull it back. Oh, that's rough Yeah

[02:25:27:07 - 02:25:38:07]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, I think it's also worth mentioning a couple other TV shows this year that just for stellar and or finishing up and or season two

[02:25:39:09 - 02:25:41:21]
Speaker 3
 revolutionary just incredible filmmaking

[02:25:43:03 - 02:26:01:18]
Speaker 3
 Peacemaker I thought was incredible severance is going crazy places Friendly neighborhood spider-man. I think did a great job um, Daredevil reborn and Pluribus it's been a good year for TV. Have you guys seen Barbas? I

[02:26:06:13 - 02:26:18:17]
Speaker 3
 She's really rough she's really rough to sit through but but just kind of watching like the weird world I think it's that weird world anything that I like about it That really is like what the fuck are they doing? Why what is this?

[02:26:22:08 - 02:26:23:13]
Speaker 2
 I'll admit to this

[02:26:24:20 - 02:26:28:07]
Speaker 2
 But since you brought it up I watched K-pop demon hunter.

[02:26:28:07 - 02:26:30:11]
Speaker 3
 Did you really yeah, what'd you think?

[02:26:33:12 - 02:26:41:13]
Speaker 2
 Yeah Music is so good. The animation was great. The little demon cat was my favorite thing delivering the mail

[02:26:42:17 - 02:26:43:06]
Speaker 2
 Yeah

[02:26:44:15 - 02:27:27:03]
Speaker 2
 all the problems you mentioned I saw also in the story I was like I mean the guy that she has the romance with sacrifices himself I was like, I'm not opposed to seeing an after credits thing where we are hinted at that he now lives above the Whatever the net that they have kept all the demons under I thought it was some Laugh out loud funny in spots. Oh, yeah I think that I was getting ready for something I couldn't find anything to do and it was still in the top ten on

[02:27:29:10 - 02:27:38:22]
Speaker 2
 I'll just put this on while I'm doing something and then I sat and watch the entire thing This is fucking adorable and the songs are insanely catchy.

[02:27:38:22 - 02:27:52:08]
Speaker 3
 They're very good. They're very good. I will say I'm walking around for Boo Burian the Halloween like downtown Burian thing and every girl was dressed up as somebody from K-pop demon hunters Yeah,

[02:27:52:08 - 02:28:06:00]
Speaker 2
 so then this is how bad I am Well, it

[02:28:06:00 - 02:28:37:07]
Speaker 3
 was it wasn't even a real group And so when I was when I first watched it they hadn't reassembled them yet So I was looking at videos of them individually and they're all just in sweatpants like rolling in to like Do their bits and like not even in the same room together and I was like It is weird and I was like, okay finally they've at least put together somebody who can tour yeah, so Yeah. Yeah, they've been done a lot of talk shows and stuff like that

[02:28:38:09 - 02:29:00:03]
Speaker 2
 out of the demon boy band I Do I'm looking at the pictures on thing and I was like

[02:29:01:08 - 02:29:07:19]
Speaker 2
 Who's the who's all the boys? And it was like, I don't know whoever some cute pop boy band is.

[02:29:07:19 - 02:29:09:01]
Speaker 3
 Sure, some K-pop band.

[02:29:09:01 - 02:29:29:00]
Speaker 2
 Oh, you related to somebody in there? No, my wife follows them around. I was the Korea to watch them. I was like, oh, but nobody's related to this band? No, just a super fan. Have either of you been... In frame photos with the rest of your family?

[02:29:29:00 - 02:29:30:17]
Speaker 3
 What is happening?

[02:29:32:12 - 02:29:34:15]
Speaker 3
 Have either of you been to a mall lately?

[02:29:35:22 - 02:29:43:22]
Speaker 2
 I did walk up when my dad was passing away. I went to the mall that I used to always be in. I was like, boy, this is very different.

[02:29:43:22 - 02:29:56:07]
Speaker 3
 It's very different. There's the one that we go and see movies, the Cinemarket Federal Way. It's almost entirely shut down, but the few shops that are open are like, there's a K-pop fan shop.

[02:29:56:07 - 02:29:58:00]
Speaker 2
 Oh, I did see something like that.

[02:29:58:00 - 02:30:18:22]
Speaker 3
 There's another shop where you can buy toys. I don't even know what that one's called, but it's got the little like, er, guys. I can't remember with the teeth, but they're very, very popular right now, or they were. I'm old. There's a lot of the machines with the balls. There were whole stores of just machines with balls that you could go.

[02:30:19:22 - 02:30:25:19]
Speaker 3
 That culture is fully in Gen Z, if not Gen Alpha.

[02:30:25:19 - 02:30:26:09]
Speaker 2
 Interesting.

[02:30:26:09 - 02:30:26:23]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[02:30:26:23 - 02:30:35:18]
Speaker 2
 I was like, how do you say that I did see there was some kind of K-pop store going on, and the music? I could hear the music. It was something from the movie.

[02:30:36:21 - 02:30:37:19]
 (Humming)

[02:30:37:19 - 02:30:38:11]
Speaker 1
 We're golden.

[02:30:38:11 - 02:30:41:05]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, or whatever.

[02:30:41:05 - 02:30:42:16]
Speaker 2
 Is that the old Sea-Tac Mall?

[02:30:43:22 - 02:30:51:07]
Speaker 3
 That's no, it's, I don't actually know if it's the old Sea-Tac Mall, because I had never been in it until, I think it's called The Commons.

[02:30:51:07 - 02:30:53:00]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, I think that is.

[02:30:53:00 - 02:30:53:09]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[02:30:54:22 - 02:30:55:13]
Speaker 3
 It's a street from

[02:30:55:13 - 02:30:57:03]
Speaker 1
 Red Lobster and

[02:30:57:03 - 02:31:20:21]
Speaker 3
 all those kind of things. Oh yeah, it's like a big old strip zone. But yeah, it's weird, because we always go to movies at like 10 p.m., and so everything shut except for the main entryway, and you're like, "Man, I wish Basking Rums was open." And there's a lot of, "Put your shop in here," so you walk past a lot of mannequins holding various objects. You're like, "Nope, this is a dead mall."

[02:31:20:21 - 02:31:25:08]
Speaker 1
 We carpet at the Suncoast that used to be there, and we went and watched Scary Movie.

[02:31:25:08 - 02:31:30:01]
Speaker 2
 Oh, sure. All right. We had to wait. Focus, you guys.

[02:31:30:01 - 02:31:32:15]
Speaker 3
 All right, yes, we're here. We're at the end of the episode. 2025, woo-hoo!

[02:31:32:15 - 02:31:34:07]
Speaker 1
 We're talking about Scary Movie in the movies

[02:31:34:07 - 02:31:41:09]
Speaker 2
 40 years ago. Vanessa, you have the pick for our next sub-genre. How are we doing things?

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Speaker 3
 Yes, well, I really liked how we were doing things when we each selected a film and did a deep dive. I had a lot of fun with that. So we have not yet discussed John Carpenter's Starman.

[02:31:54:02 - 02:31:55:06]
Speaker 2
 Crazy to think.

[02:31:55:06 - 02:32:10:20]
Speaker 3
 It's a tragedy. It's an absolute tragedy. So I would like to travesty, tragedy anything with a T. That's what it is. Tapestry. Tapestry. It's a tapestry of sadness. We have not yet discussed those.

[02:32:10:20 - 02:32:13:00]
Speaker 2
 So we're all watching Starman is what you're telling me.

[02:32:13:00 - 02:32:14:09]
Speaker 3
 We're watching Starman.

[02:32:14:09 - 02:32:17:19]
Speaker 2
 This sounds like a gift. Thank you. You're welcome. I don't think I've ever seen it.

[02:32:19:06 - 02:32:22:03]
Speaker 3
 Get out.

[02:32:22:03 - 02:32:24:06]
Speaker 2
 What she said.

[02:32:26:22 - 02:32:51:00]
Speaker 2
 Okay. So that brings us to the end of the show. Hey, guys. Thank you so much. I'm talking about the people who are out there who are liking and sharing posts, who are commenting on the YouTube video, who are having a big discussion with us on the Strangeeons Radio Talk page, which exploded. I see. I see. I see a lot of people in the audience thanking new members all the time. Box, I assume.

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Speaker 3
 Thank you, Russia.

[02:32:53:21 - 02:33:08:16]
Speaker 2
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[02:33:10:05 - 02:33:20:10]
Speaker 2
 and you're not liking and sharing posts and everything, consider taking a couple of minutes and going on to Apple Podcasts or Spotify or whatever and giving us a reveal.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1
 If you go on to Spotify, tell them to start carrying our stuff again. Oh.

[02:33:25:15 - 02:33:26:02]
 (Laughs)

[02:33:26:02 - 02:33:27:21]
Speaker 3
 Oh, did they not have it on there?

[02:33:27:21 - 02:33:30:05]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, it's been for a few. Oh, yeah. Interesting.

[02:33:30:05 - 02:33:31:12]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, fuck Spotify.

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 (Laughs)

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Speaker 2
 Where else can they find us?

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Speaker 3
 You can also get us on the Strange Eons Radio Hotline. That phone number is 253-237-4266. You can send us a text, you can leave us a voicemail, whichever which way we would love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2
 Absolutely. Excellent. All right, gang, how about we come back in 14 short days and start now.

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Speaker 2
 See you next time.

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Speaker 2
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Speaker 3
 And then when they won the game, it was like forever.