353 MAD MAX!

353 MAD MAX!

The gang is starting their Mad Maxathon with, you guessed it, the first film in the Mad Max series.

Also discussed: Buffet Infinity, From, Normal.

Transcript

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Speaker 3
 I really thought it happened. I thought all of this happened in the first act. I was shocked.

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Speaker 23
 I'm sorry, did I break your concentration?

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Speaker 24
 Somewhere between science and superstition.

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Speaker 23
 We have such sites to show you.

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Speaker 2
 Strange Eons. Welcome to Strange Eons Radio. That is Eric over there. That is Vanessa over there. Hello. I am Kelly Gang. I am on a deadline this time. I'm meeting with Nick the Hatgucker. Oh, artist extraordinaire. We've got a pretty cool project coming up. I'm just going to jump into the stuff that I've seen.

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Speaker 3
 Excellent. Okay.

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Speaker 1
 Dive in. I watched Normal.

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Speaker 2
 Normal what?

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Speaker 2
 Normal. The new Bob Odenkirk movie.

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Speaker 1
 Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 2
 Right. Written by the guy who has written all the Nobody movies, all the John Wick movies, all the movies we love, and this is one of those movies. Odenkirk plays a

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Speaker 2
 interim police sheriff in a town. It

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Speaker 2
 turns out that the town has made a deal with the Yakuza. Now, Normal is the name of the town. It's in Minnesota. You wouldn't expect to see the Yakuza here.

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Speaker 23
 It feels like a lot of plane tickets.

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Speaker 2
 But he's a good cop and he stumbles on something.

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Speaker 2
 That's awesome. Then he finds out, holy shit, the entire town is against me.

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Speaker 2
 It is so much fun. I had such a blast with it. Bob Odenkirk is like the most unlikely action hero.

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Speaker 3
 He really is.

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Speaker 2
 Yet, everything that he does now- We thought Liam Eason was the bottom. Yeah, that's good to say.

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Speaker 1
 Then Bob shows up. It's not a sequel to- No. Oh, okay.

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Speaker 2
 I figured it out. No, but it feels just like those movies because it's written by that guy. He's such a likable guy, Odenkirk. They do all of these save the cap moments and everything. Because he knows he's only there until they vote in their new sheriff.

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Speaker 2
 He goes and puts a ticket on this lady's car. She comes out and she's like, "Hey." She looks at it and he just wrote "park better" on it. She goes, "I like the way you law."

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Speaker 3
 That's so good.

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Speaker 2
 You're just like, "Oh, this guy would be great." Then this thing happens and you find out, everyone in this town is the bad guy.

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Speaker 3
 Oh, that sounds like such a fun film.

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Speaker 2
 It's a rental that is well worth it. It's a cheap pedal. Normally.

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Speaker 3
 Well, I watched Beef, season two. Did either of you guys see Beef, season one? I saw Beef, season one.

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Speaker 2
 This is not the same character, right? No. Okay, it's a new Beef.

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Speaker 3
 It's a new Beef. There's new Beef between new people. And it's interesting, it's international Beef because it also goes to Korea. And yeah, it's interesting. We've got

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Speaker 3
 Oscar Isaac is in it.

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Speaker 3
 I'm forgetting the names of all the famous people that are in this. But I thought it was deeper. I thought it... Maybe it's not deeper. It's pretty interesting. I really liked the questions that they bring up per usual. There's a situation that occurs

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Speaker 3
 this time between two sets of couples. And there's a misunderstanding, but then it becomes a blackmail situation. And then they're constantly undermining each other in each other's lives. And then there's weird crossing over where sometimes some of them are actually going to help out part of the other couple. And the other... And the both couples start falling apart. It's very... Yeah, there's a lot going on. It's really heady. I don't know if it actually means anything, it

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Speaker 3
 feels like it means something.

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Speaker 1
 It feels like the kind of show that would drive me nuts. My gosh. Two to sit down and talk it out, you fucking asshole.

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Speaker 3
 Everyone's characters get in the way of themselves.

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Speaker 2
 I can't. I do remember feeling kind of anxious with the first season.

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Speaker 3
 The first one is really anxiety and I feel like this one's less so. There's stuff going on, but I didn't have the... I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3
 the intense embarrassment stress as much on this one. There was a few moments like that, but it was a bit more like, oh, somebody set a little idea in your head and now that idea is slowly spreading and now you're changing the way you're acting. So it was a little more subtle, but incredible. Michelle Williams is the other actress in it. Nice. I think... Is it Michelle Williams? Am I crazy? Is she British?

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Speaker 1
 Normally I look it up for you, but since I forgot...

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Speaker 3
 I will look up who is in this show. But I would say the acting in it is absolutely incredible. It's got...

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Speaker 3
 Oh

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Speaker 3
 my God, it's giving me the people from season one. It's a great pod. You're welcome. Carrie Mulligan. I'm sorry. Carrie Mulligan is the actress in this. Also Charles Melton who was in Sabrina as Reggie.

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Speaker 3
 He does a great job in it too. He's almost like unrecognizable. He's great in it. And then there's a girl who haven't seen anything before named Kaylee Spanney. She's great too. So overall just, yeah, a really

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Speaker 3
 fun... Not fun, a horrifically unfun show to watch, but I think you get a lot out of it.

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Speaker 2
 Does it still have the same kind of dark humor that's going through? Absolutely.

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Speaker 3
 Absolutely. There's a lot of strange dark humor moments where like, all of us fucked up. Okay. But that's also kind of amazing.

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Speaker 1
 So.

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Speaker 1
 Cool. So I finally went to a Sif movie after many, many years. Oh my gosh. Fortunately. Oh no.

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Speaker 3
 Wait, is there a reason you haven't been going to a Sif movie?

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Speaker 1
 Just timing with Cryptagon and all this stuff that they're always going on.

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Speaker 3
 And do you mean Sif is in the place or the festival?

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Speaker 1
 The festival. Oh. The festival film. All right.

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Speaker 1
 And went with Bob was there, Bob Ferguson. So

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Speaker 1
 of the stuff he saw, he let me know that...

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Speaker 1
 Yeah, you picked the wrong one. Oh no. There's this movie called Sons of the Neon Knight.

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Speaker 1
 Now a lot of people are going to love this film. It is

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Speaker 1
 gorgeous. It's shot entirely in gray scale. So there's like virtually no color. Everybody's in black, a little bit of white, maybe like a t-shirt underneath something and grays. And like a cat.

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Speaker 1
 So it looks really cool at times. Although, and this is just the modern eyes, the way we're looking at films now, it was in post-production for eight years. Wow. But the action scene at the beginning almost feels like it's got AI moments because they look oddly crisp. They don't even look CGI crisp. They look beyond that.

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Speaker 1
 But it's a story,

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Speaker 1
 I think.

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Speaker 1
 There's police. There's criminals. There's police that are criminals and criminals that may be trying to do the right thing and trying to recover from themselves. I leaned over halfway during the movie to Dina was there with me too. I didn't go, "I don't fucking know what's going on in this movie." She's like, "Oh good, it's just me." And then the movie ended. I looked over at Bob. He's like, "I don't know what was going on in that movie." And Tony was there and a couple other people that I didn't see, but he talked to afterwards. Nobody could tell you what the basic storyline of this film was. Although I mentioned it to Hulitz and he had a great idea on it. It's like, so it's a grayscale movie. The characters are also shades of gray. I'm going, "Which is theoretically a cool idea, but makes it really hard to watch a movie." And it makes a lot of sense for the concept of the film. That's pretty insightful thought there, dude. But man, it was really frustrating because the performances are all amazing. Everybody did really good. It's really well done. Watch is going, "That's so cool. I really don't care about these people because I don't know who is who and who's who." Who's going to screw over who?

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Speaker 1
 And it

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Speaker 1
 was introduced by the good old Dan Doody, Ziff, who is an awesome guy. But he brought in a representative of the tourist to visit Hong Kong.

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Speaker 1
 And watching this movie, we're going to do a bad movie to pick. It is so bleak. The entire thing is bleak and dark. It's always snowing.

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Speaker 1
 Everybody's awful.

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Speaker 1
 So

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Speaker 1
 I wish something had been put in to center at least. There's two characters, the main cop and the main bad guy, who if they'd cemented them just a little bit more, one way or the other, I think would help the movie a lot. Because there's so much to like in it. But at the end, you're kind of like, "I just..."

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Speaker 3
 That's a bummer. That sounds like such a stiff experience.

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Speaker 1
 And it was a huge hit. It won tons of awards at Hong Kong's main film festival and stuff. Because it is really well done in a lot of ways. Could be. But I mean, visually unreal. Acting great. Directing cool. Storyline really muddy. It's just like... But it was cool to watch.

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Speaker 2
 Sons of the Neon Knight. Yep.

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Speaker 2
 For

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Speaker 2
 a moment, I was going to talk about Mortal Kombat 2, but you really undersold on what a piece of shit this movie was.

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Speaker 2
 Skipping on. Yeah, I'm not going to talk about Mortal Kombat 2. Oh. I'm going to talk about Buffet Infinity.

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Speaker 3
 I've not heard of this at all. I'll be on this one.

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Speaker 2
 This is, Eric, your kind of movie, Vanessa, maybe your kind of movie. It is an art house horror comedy that is told entirely through old TV commercials.

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Speaker 1
 Okay, I've heard of this. Okay.

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Speaker 2
 And it is about a place called Buffet Infinity, which is like all you can eat...

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Speaker 2
 Restaurant. Well, it's a restaurant, but it's one of those... You know, what do you call it when there's all these different kinds of foods there? It's a buffet. Oh, it's a buffet. It's a buffet infinity, in fact.

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Speaker 1
 And I hope you set yourself up for that joke.

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Speaker 2
 I am not.

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Speaker 2
 Jenny, I am not as my man.

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Speaker 2
 And they are right around the corner from a sandwich shop. And their commercials start competing with each other because the sandwich shop, they are best known for their family sauce, their secret sauce. And the buffet infinity is like, you know, hey, we also have a secret sauce. We don't make it our entire identity though. You know, so there's all these little jabs at them and they start getting meaner and meaner. And then there's all these news reports about weird sounds that are happening. And there is a sinkhole behind one of the restaurants. And then these businesses near the restaurant start going out of business and buffet infinity and all of this stuff starts happening. And the narration of the commercials start getting a little weirder and darker. This is a film? It is unfortunately a two hour film and it could have been a 90 minute film. My only disappointment with it was that it needed to be about a half hour shorter. But it was super interesting because all these commercials, and it's not just these two places, it's all the places in this town have commercials. They've got the law, the attorney guy who, have you been hurt? His commercials start getting really dark. He's like got a gun on screen now and everything. And society is just collapsing around this city and all the commercials are starting to reflect it. The sandwich shop lady, she goes missing and buffet infinity is like, you know, we sincerely hope that nothing bad has happened to our competition and stuff like that. It starts leading up to

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Speaker 2
 a couple of pretty nice cosmic horror scenes at the end that you see. And then weird stuff going on where like a commercial will end, but then we follow the guy as he goes home. And it's, I don't know what to say about it. It is

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Speaker 2
 very compelling. That sounds incredible. That's pretty cool. Yeah. And the commercials are all like 1989 ish. So it's all video and kind of warbly and all of this stuff. I just thought it was super, super interesting. And even if the movie isn't like a 100% hit,

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Speaker 2
 the idea of what they did and the story they told through commercials is like astounding. I was watching it towards the end going, holy fuck, this is kind of amazing. Yeah, that sounds pretty big. So this is a rental and it is called buffet infinity.

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Speaker 3
 Is that like a rental on Amazon kind of thing? Yeah. Okay. Wow. Sounds cool.

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Speaker 3
 Well, I am deep into a series that you got me hooked on Kelly. Is it season four now that we're in a from? From. Yeah. That's the one I was thinking of. Fully caught up.

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Speaker 2
 What do you think of this new season?

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Speaker 3
 Okay. I don't know. I was hoping that this was the final season and that we were resolving things, but there is one more.

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Speaker 2
 There's one more after this.

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Speaker 3
 I feel like they just, I don't know if they know where they're going.

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Speaker 2
 And it feels supposedly that's the whole point of having that end season, right? Is we can now aim towards an ending. That's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 1
 In that they've got the ending and it's about a season long. So I go, what do we do for the fourth season?

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Speaker 3
 Like I like the introduction of the yellow man. I think that concept is interesting. I don't know if I love like his form and, but I do like in theory that in the meantime, the art chick is making a giant golem. I'm like, this thing is better be fucking cool. I cannot wait for this goal. And it was funny. As soon as she started making a mud thing, my husband's like, what is she doing? I was like, she's making a golem. Wow. She's making a golem. And they're like, what are you doing? She's like, I'm making a golem. It's like Catholic history coming.

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Speaker 1
 No, wait.

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Speaker 3
 It's not.

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Speaker 3
 I don't know. I think I just read too much of other things.

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Speaker 3
 Cavalier and Clay, I think had a golem in it. But yeah, like it's just, I don't know. I feel like there's too much randomness and it feels like I don't care that much about quite a few of the characters. I don't care about the kids anymore. I don't care about the chick. I still really like the guy who gets stoned all the time.

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Speaker 3
 He was super smart. Like he's probably my favorite character at this point. And the policeman, like having him start to maybe show signs of dementia, which we saw in the previous season, I'm like, I don't know, man, are you really going to take away like one of the more reliable, like powerful figures we have in this show and replace it with what?

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Speaker 2
 I don't know. I'm still not convinced that this isn't entirely his personal hell. That would be interesting. So because everything that happens just seems to drag him lower and lower and lower.

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Speaker 3
 It does feel like that. Weird things happen specifically to him.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. Like where he got, like he was talking to his wife and all of a sudden some like arms came out of the dirt and grabbed him. Yeah. Like, what is that? That doesn't get explored anywhere else.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. I don't know. There's just, I don't know if there's so many questions now that I'm like, I don't even care or something, but I was so excited when this came on. The first episode, I was like, hmm, just kill the main character. And I was bummed about that. And then,

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Speaker 2
 and then the second episode, I was like, I need something else to happen, especially now because we're what? Six episodes in and there's only eight episodes.

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Speaker 3
 I know. And like, I thought I was really excited about the new- It's going to be a banger.

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Speaker 3
 I was really excited about the new space, the new village. And I was like, I want to know what's going on there. And then I was like,

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Speaker 3
 some giant dolls? Okay, whatever.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah.

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Speaker 3
 I just thought it was just stupid.

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Speaker 2
 There's still some kind of creepy imagery. Those dolls were pretty fucking creepy.

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Speaker 3
 They're creepy, but I was also like, now you're throwing out the rules of the previous stuff. And like, what are these guys? And I don't know. I think I'm in part A of the problem you're potentially having. I think there's too much and I'm caring less and less the more they're throwing at the wall. I'm just like, I was really, really invested. And now I'm like, I don't know, man, like we're getting really thinly spread. I don't care about the drug addict girlfriend at all. I wish I could see more of the Asian, like, co-cop guy. Like, there's just characters I do care about, though. We just basically never spend time with anymore.

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Speaker 2
 Right there with you. From Erica.

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Speaker 1
 It's like I'm okay with sticking where I laid off on that one.

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Speaker 1
 Speaking of movies that are shows that have actually wrapped their shit up. The Boys came to its conclusion recently.

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Speaker 3
 We had a boast, Eric. Jesus.

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Speaker 1
 It's not my show.

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Speaker 3
 We had a watch a show that actually had an ending.

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Speaker 2
 Nobody likes a one-upper, right? Jesus.

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Speaker 1
 Well, you know, it did an ending.

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Speaker 1
 We're gonna do five seasons and we're gonna end it.

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Speaker 1
 Not. Now there's a movie coming out, although they sort of did that. Anyways,

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Speaker 1
 overall, I enjoyed it. It felt accelerated. You know, you're saying that the From feels like they're extending shit out. It felt like

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Speaker 1
 things went really fast. It was like a little episode of The Boys, like going, "Oh, okay, we've reached our conclusion."

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Speaker 2
 Wow. Yeah, I did not like,

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Speaker 2
 obviously, Homelander, you know, insane and everything, but him just deciding that, you know, I am now God. I was like, this doesn't feel natural to me. So I didn't like that.

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Speaker 2
 I like the

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Speaker 2
 ending in the White House. I thought that was fun.

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Speaker 2
 Didn't particularly love the ending with Hughie. But

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Speaker 2
 I do remember something kind of similar to that in the comic book, right? I think so. He does kill him.

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Speaker 1
 Yeah, I think, yeah. But, you know, they deviated enough from it that it's kind of like, "Oh." Yeah. But the

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Speaker 1
 critical watching skills were really put into test by some comments I've read about this. Like I saw the biggest plot holes at the end of The Boys.

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Speaker 1
 Why does

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Speaker 1
 he suddenly have no powers?

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Speaker 1
 That was the whole point of the...

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Speaker 2
 Four episodes.

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Speaker 1
 Jesus. I saw that

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Speaker 1
 twice. Two different people, both saying, "There's no way. How come he just suddenly didn't have powers?" And the other guy suddenly so much stronger than him. I'm like, "Oh my God." Everything else you ever say about any movie ever is not what it was listening to.

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Speaker 2
 But

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Speaker 2
 I'm not going to bother to find out. Your opinion no longer holds weight. Please do not talk again.

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Speaker 1
 But,

[01:20:06:18 - 01:20:14:22]
Speaker 1
 I mean, for the character who was the God thing, it didn't bother me too much just because it felt like the end result of a super ego.

[01:20:16:02 - 01:20:21:15]
Speaker 1
 At some point you're going to hit something that's an end point.

[01:20:23:18 - 01:20:24:00]
Speaker 1
 But

[01:20:25:20 - 01:20:44:06]
Speaker 1
 the... He has a weird little side. Most of the people wander around in their classrooms all the time. Like, "Okay, whatever." The preacher guy, for some reason, his felt so ridiculous when he was just wandering around. And it's like, "That just looks weird, man. That is too much. It's too much going on there."

[01:20:45:07 - 01:20:46:22]
Speaker 1
 But, I mean,

[01:20:48:02 - 01:20:50:06]
Speaker 1
 some of the other comments were decent. I

[01:20:51:10 - 01:21:07:02]
Speaker 1
 wish they would have run into powers when they were in their tunnels underneath the White House instead of just guards. Which makes sense. Like I said, I think it's just because it all happened so fast. Didn't have time to have powered fights to get to the

[01:21:08:04 - 01:21:12:15]
Speaker 1
 Oval Office. I did like that they set up

[01:21:14:11 - 01:21:30:06]
Speaker 1
 his downfall to be fully televised everywhere. So people, you know, it's like, "Oh, you're actually going to see exactly what this guy really is." And if you didn't already realize that from scene one of the first damn episode, that's on you.

[01:21:31:12 - 01:21:32:00]
Speaker 1
 But

[01:21:33:05 - 01:21:35:16]
Speaker 1
 overall, it was fine. But yeah, they just

[01:21:37:00 - 01:21:37:20]
Speaker 1
 needed to

[01:21:38:23 - 01:21:41:04]
Speaker 1
 do like a 90-minute episode or something for that last one.

[01:21:41:04 - 01:21:43:17]
Speaker 2
 I really thought that last one was going to be something like that.

[01:21:44:23 - 01:22:01:05]
Speaker 2
 I did like, after they gave us the supernatural reunion, I did like at the very end of the last episode when we get to see Bobby again as the president. I was like, "Oh, okay. Now it does feel like a supernatural reunion." And I am looking forward to the new series.

[01:22:01:05 - 01:22:06:17]
Speaker 1
 He was such a great presence on the show. And he's so freaking good at everything he does.

[01:22:06:17 - 01:22:08:05]
Speaker 3
 They're doing an additional series with the crew?

[01:22:08:05 - 01:22:12:19]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, they're doing Patriot or Soldier Boys. Origin.

[01:22:12:19 - 01:22:13:18]
Speaker 3
 That would be fun.

[01:22:13:18 - 01:22:19:10]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, and it'll be set in like the 50s. So I'm like, "Okay, I like stuff like that."

[01:22:19:10 - 01:22:24:20]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, that would be cool. I would much rather watch that than V or whatever.

[01:22:24:20 - 01:22:26:13]
Speaker 1
 Gen V. And

[01:22:27:20 - 01:22:35:23]
Speaker 1
 oh, and that was a little weird too, this sort of pointless tossing in of a couple of characters from that that you could have had him actually do something.

[01:22:35:23 - 01:22:44:04]
Speaker 2
 Was it pointless? We didn't bother to watch the last season. It might have been leading into that. I don't have any clue. Did you catch though that her

[01:22:45:04 - 01:22:56:11]
Speaker 2
 dad, the girl who could turn her blood into weapons, her dad was the preacher superhero? Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. And so I thought we'd get some things between the two of them, and that wasn't it.

[01:22:56:11 - 01:22:58:08]
Speaker 1
 Blood of Christ or something.

[01:22:58:08 - 01:22:59:01]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:22:59:01 - 01:23:08:19]
Speaker 1
 There's a lot to do there. Yeah. Oh, well. But overall, I'm glad it wrapped up and it wasn't, thank God it's finally done kind of an ending, but...

[01:23:08:19 - 01:23:26:07]
Speaker 2
 I will say this. So now we have Spider Noir on Prime and the Boys is wrapped up. But it is reasonable to assume the same people who are watching the Boys are watching Invincible. So why did that have to run at the same time? Why are we getting these things all happening at once Hey,

[01:23:27:11 - 01:23:30:01]
Speaker 2
 we end this show here. Now we can start this show.

[01:23:31:08 - 01:23:38:13]
Speaker 3
 This is how I get super behind on series. Because I'm like, I gotta watch this other one right now. I don't think I have time for overlapping.

[01:23:38:13 - 01:23:50:05]
Speaker 1
 And also with the success of both of those two, why did you do a dump of all the episodes? Spider Noir, the Boys and Invincible have all been really good as episodic... How do they decide that?

[01:23:50:05 - 01:23:51:10]
Speaker 3
 I don't know.

[01:23:51:10 - 01:23:54:19]
Speaker 1
 Maybe they didn't think it was going to do well, so they thought I'll just dump it out.

[01:23:54:19 - 01:24:00:11]
Speaker 3
 In a Spider Noir, that's like a Sony one then? Oh, it must be.

[01:24:00:11 - 01:24:00:20]
Speaker 2
 It may be that.

[01:24:00:20 - 01:24:04:08]
Speaker 3
 Because if it's not on Disney, then it can't be...

[01:24:06:06 - 01:24:07:03]
Speaker 3
 Because I'm as it should have been.

[01:24:07:03 - 01:24:07:18]
Speaker 1
 It's on Prime, so it's not

[01:24:10:00 - 01:24:10:11]
Speaker 1
 Disney.

[01:24:10:11 - 01:24:16:16]
Speaker 3
 No, no, I know. That's what I'm saying. It's part of the Marvel universe, but it's part of the Spider-Verse. So therefore it's...

[01:24:17:18 - 01:24:18:05]
Speaker 3
 Man.

[01:24:18:05 - 01:24:19:01]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, yeah.

[01:24:19:01 - 01:24:25:20]
Speaker 3
 Exactly. Who knows? Whatever contract they have, I'm sure there's something... Some reasoning behind it. Somebody owns it somewhere. Yeah.

[01:24:25:20 - 01:24:32:09]
Speaker 2
 Well, okay. How about we take a little break, and then when we come back, we are starting our Mad Max-a-thon.

[01:24:42:21 - 01:25:10:03]
Speaker 23
 The Legoland gas station. You build it for action. You can raise a car up on the lift and check the underside, or fill her up, close the hood, and pretend to take a ride. What can you do with the new Public Works Center? You can build a crane and watch it drop some bricks into a bin, or lift the door, roll out the truck, and let the bricks fall in. The action's up to you. The Legoland Public Works Center from the Legoland Town Collection. Legoland gas stations sold separately from Lego Systems.

[01:25:10:03 - 01:25:16:08]
 (Music)

[01:25:20:19 - 01:25:30:21]
Speaker 2
 We have returned. Gang, we are starting the Mad Max-a-thon, which means that for the next five episodes, I really hope you guys like the Mad Max-a-thon.

[01:25:31:22 - 01:25:33:13]
Speaker 2
 We're going to be talking about all of them.

[01:25:33:13 - 01:25:36:07]
Speaker 1
 Yep. If you stopped watching because of...

[01:25:37:22 - 01:25:39:03]
Speaker 2
 Ninja November.

[01:25:40:20 - 01:25:43:02]
Speaker 3
 Disco, whatever the fuck that was.

[01:25:43:02 - 01:25:44:15]
Speaker 1
 Literally whatever. I was actually

[01:25:45:16 - 01:25:47:13]
Speaker 1
 thinking about Gibson, but okay.

[01:25:48:19 - 01:25:49:21]
Speaker 3
 It felt like a lot.

[01:25:49:21 - 01:25:53:21]
Speaker 1
 Oh yeah, when Severin Disco comes out. No, just go, go, go.

[01:25:53:21 - 01:25:57:06]
Speaker 3
 I will be sick that day, is what will happen.

[01:25:57:06 - 01:26:02:13]
Speaker 2
 All right, gang, we're starting this off with the OG Mad Max.

[01:26:02:13 - 01:26:05:06]
Speaker 24
 Tomorrow in a world on Mad.

[01:26:05:06 - 01:26:07:14]
 (Screaming)

[01:26:10:06 - 01:26:14:21]
Speaker 24
 The only law will be a renegade squad of suicidal cops. He's my prisoner,

[01:26:15:21 - 01:26:17:01]
Speaker 24
 and he's not walking out that door.

[01:26:21:22 - 01:26:29:19]
Speaker 24
 And the open road will be controlled by gangs of glory roaders. Max

[01:26:31:23 - 01:26:37:22]
Speaker 24
 is a cop. One of the best. Wait, he's around to get you. Scoot jockeys? Yeah, no mad trash.

[01:26:39:14 - 01:26:41:09]
Speaker 23
 Well, I'll add it to my trade collection.

[01:26:52:00 - 01:27:11:17]
Speaker 24
 You made the music. My charge is relating to the slaying of a main force patrol officer... Who was he? In a roll arcade accident last month. Just another glory rotor, I guess. Toe cutter is a glory rotor, one of the most sadistic. Anything I say, anything you say, what a wonderful philosophy you have. Take him away.

[01:27:13:16 - 01:27:18:16]
Speaker 23
 I want my baby. You've not got a sense of humor. Please don't hurt my baby.

[01:27:18:16 - 01:27:20:05]
Speaker 24
 You've got a pretty face, though.

[01:27:22:09 - 01:27:23:16]
Speaker 24
 Both want the other dead.

[01:27:29:07 - 01:27:33:07]
Speaker 24
 But only one can have his way. Bremen! Bremen!

[01:27:39:06 - 01:27:40:08]
Speaker 24
 Mad Max.

[01:27:45:09 - 01:27:47:05]
Speaker 24
 You don't want to make Max mad.

[01:27:49:22 - 01:27:51:15]
Speaker 24
 Because when Max gets mad,

[01:27:54:09 - 01:28:01:13]
Speaker 24
 he gets evil. American International presents Mad Max, the maximum force of the future.

[01:28:01:13 - 01:28:08:04]
Speaker 2
 Directed by George Miller, who is the director of all the Mad Max films, and also Babe, Pig in the City, and Happy Feet.

[01:28:08:04 - 01:28:08:22]
Speaker 23
 Yeah.

[01:28:08:22 - 01:28:27:20]
Speaker 2
 Written by James McCausland. Now, I should say screenplay by James McCausland, because it is based on the story by George Miller and Byron Kennedy. And this was James' only writing credit. He was not a screenwriter. They hired him and said, "Do you know how to do this?" And he said, "I'll give it a shot." Probably in a very

[01:28:29:06 - 01:28:39:13]
Speaker 2
 Australian accent, what he said. Starring Mel Gibson. Best known for calling the female cop who pulled him over while he was drunk. Sweet Teets! Also for denying the Holocaust.

[01:28:41:19 - 01:28:57:10]
Speaker 2
 He's also been in all of the Lethal Weapon movies, all of the Mad Max, well, not all the Mad Max movies. Payback, Ransom, Braveheart, The Bounty. He's also a director of some renown. Directing Hacksaw Ridge, Apokolipto, Passion of the Christ, and Braveheart, among others.

[01:28:58:18 - 01:29:08:13]
Speaker 2
 Joanne Samuel plays his wife, Jesse. She's been in a lot of Aussie TV shows and miniseries, including Four Years Later, Stinson Creek, and Rake.

[01:29:09:15 - 01:29:16:09]
Speaker 2
 She was cast as his wife two weeks into filming of this movie, because the actress who was his wife broke her leg.

[01:29:17:18 - 01:29:17:18]
Speaker 2
 Now

[01:29:19:01 - 01:29:28:02]
Speaker 2
 we have Joanne Samuel. And then also in this is Steve Beasley, Tim Burns, Roger Ward, and Hugh Keys Burn as toe cutter.

[01:29:29:10 - 01:29:43:00]
Speaker 2
 So we start off and we are in a dystopian near future Australia, which is facing a breakdown of society due to the oil crisis in Iran, which led to energy shortages and unrest.

[01:29:44:22 - 01:30:06:04]
Speaker 2
 There's a little bit in there about Iranian forces attacking Saudi Arabia, which ignites a massive war in the Middle East and then around the world. This was all in 1979. And I remember it feeling like we weren't too far away from that. And then watching it now, I felt again, like we weren't too far away from it. And that makes me realize that the world is always just in unrest and we can all simmer down. It's going to be fine.

[01:30:06:04 - 01:30:09:00]
Speaker 3
 But it's affecting me right now.

[01:30:11:08 - 01:30:17:05]
Speaker 2
 Our film opens with a berserk biker gang member named The Night Rider and his girlfriend.

[01:30:17:05 - 01:30:18:09]
Speaker 3
 This guy is so overhyped.

[01:30:18:09 - 01:30:25:21]
Speaker 2
 Who killed a rookie officer of the MFP, which is one of the last remaining law enforcement agencies.

[01:30:27:03 - 01:30:29:12]
Speaker 2
 They have stolen the cops police vehicle.

[01:30:30:13 - 01:30:36:14]
Speaker 2
 They're able to pretty much elude the MFP until officer Max Rakatansky gets involved.

[01:30:37:19 - 01:30:43:03]
Speaker 2
 Max turns to Chase and then he bumps their car into a roadblock that kills the Night Rider and his girlfriend.

[01:30:44:18 - 01:31:04:22]
Speaker 2
 At the MFP garage, Max has shown his new police car, which is a specially built and supercharged black pursuit vehicle. Max doesn't know this, but it is revealed to us that this special vehicle was authorized to kind of bribe him to stay on the force because he's got a wife and a young boy and he is looking to kind of get out of the police work.

[01:31:06:09 - 01:31:18:19]
Speaker 2
 Also, we don't get to see much of the cities in this movie. This is a wasteland movie. But we do get to see the police headquarters and it is fucking ramshackle. It is crazy. I mean, the ceiling is falling in places.

[01:31:18:19 - 01:31:23:15]
Speaker 3
 I can't remember. Was it? It's like in an old, some other kind of building. It's very weird.

[01:31:23:15 - 01:31:39:17]
Speaker 2
 Well, it looks like it might have been a prison at some point. But I think that that was the point, was just kind of show that they've got big walls around this building. I guess the point is they don't have the money to even take care of their own place. This is how they're showing that society is crumbling.

[01:31:39:17 - 01:31:43:00]
Speaker 3
 But they still have lawyers.

[01:31:43:00 - 01:31:44:12]
Speaker 2
 They still have lawyers.

[01:31:44:12 - 01:31:47:23]
Speaker 3
 Still have lawyers. Still have lawyers. He's still going to really follow the rule of shit.

[01:31:47:23 - 01:31:48:14]
Speaker 2
 Kind of.

[01:31:48:14 - 01:31:50:00]
Speaker 3
 Sort of.

[01:31:51:09 - 01:32:19:16]
Speaker 2
 From here, we go to the Knight Riders motorcycle gang, which is led now by a guy named Tocutter. They never tell us how we got this name, but I have ideas. Yeah, none of them particularly pleasant. No, they have rolled in and are terrorizing a very small town in the middle of nowhere. In fact, when a young couple attempt to escape, the motorbikes chase them down, destroy the car, kill the man and assault the woman in various unpleasant ways. This is the way of the wasteland.

[01:32:20:18 - 01:32:25:19]
Speaker 2
 Meanwhile, we've also met Max's fellow officer, Goose, who is a motorcycle police officer.

[01:32:27:14 - 01:32:40:16]
Speaker 2
 I understand why we use motorcycle cops right now. It makes sense. But when you're in a wasteland, I thought of that too. Auto dueling. It seems like a bad vehicle to have.

[01:32:40:16 - 01:32:45:20]
Speaker 3
 I just figured it was fast and easy to get around other wrecks. Once you get there.

[01:32:45:20 - 01:32:50:19]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, what are you supposed to do once you get there? Especially if you're up against a semi or something like that.

[01:32:50:19 - 01:33:10:18]
Speaker 3
 Man, there are so many just car on car. I mean, you truncated that beginning chase. It is so long. They're like, "Oh, this police unit's out. Let's send this other one. Oh, that one's out. Let's send this other one." I'm like, "Oh my God. How many?" Oh yeah. And then did they come back? I'm like, "What the fuck?"

[01:33:10:18 - 01:33:20:09]
Speaker 2
 Jesus, that cop who makes his driver drive and then the driver ends up slashing his throat. The next time we see him, he's talking with the voice box.

[01:33:20:09 - 01:33:23:05]
Speaker 3
 The voice box is so good. Oh my God.

[01:33:23:05 - 01:33:24:19]
Speaker 2
 So good. Wow.

[01:33:24:19 - 01:33:28:06]
Speaker 3
 It's just like a cool, weird storytelling.

[01:33:28:06 - 01:33:31:17]
Speaker 2
 It is really cool. It's very, yes. Weird storytelling. Yeah.

[01:33:34:20 - 01:34:00:21]
Speaker 2
 To prove out that the motorcycle is not a great idea, Nightriders gang have sabotaged Goose's police bike, which gets him in a wreck. And you would think this is where the motorcycle bike gang would attack him. But he calls a tow truck, then commandeers the tow truck and tows his own bike back towards the station, and that's where they attack him. With an astounding throw. Right. Where they throw like a tire rim or something?

[01:34:00:21 - 01:34:02:08]
Speaker 1
 It sort of looked like a small tire.

[01:34:02:08 - 01:34:10:11]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Right through the windshield of the tow truck, which he crashes, and then they burn him alive in the vehicle. Good times.

[01:34:11:15 - 01:34:21:17]
Speaker 2
 As a side note, I looked up to see how many sidekicks named Goose die in action movies. You will be surprised to know that this is not the trope I thought it was. Really just stopped. Mr. Tomb.

[01:34:21:17 - 01:34:22:09]
Speaker 3
 I

[01:34:23:12 - 01:34:24:16]
Speaker 3
 was like, "Oh my God, how many?"

[01:34:24:16 - 01:34:27:06]
Speaker 1
 It seems like it should be, just because of that.

[01:34:27:06 - 01:34:31:11]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Because Goose, they're fun, they're cool, and they get killed.

[01:34:31:11 - 01:34:35:18]
Speaker 2
 Well, Goose are not fun. Or geese. No, they aren't. Goose's are the worst.

[01:34:35:18 - 01:34:36:22]
Speaker 3
 But they're goofy looking.

[01:34:38:15 - 01:34:58:15]
Speaker 2
 When Max finds out about Goose, he goes to see him in the hospital. And seeing his charred body in the ICU is enough to get Max to formally resign from the NFV to save what is left of his sanity. It is a horror movie reaction where he pulls the sheet off to see his body. And then it's almost like the lighting behind him changes. Music.

[01:34:58:15 - 01:35:01:00]
Speaker 1
 Music goes way over the top.

[01:35:01:00 - 01:35:05:10]
Speaker 3
 You don't really show us what he's looking at, so you're just like, "Oh, it must be really fucked."

[01:35:05:10 - 01:35:07:22]
Speaker 2
 And the other thing is, fucking Max, or

[01:35:09:00 - 01:35:18:06]
Speaker 2
 what's his name? Mel is so fucking young that it is hard to believe that he'd be a cop anyway, right? You're like, "Who's this high school kid?"

[01:35:18:06 - 01:35:27:06]
Speaker 3
 Let alone, "I'm ready to retire because I've seen too much shit. And also, I'm the best cop out there, and they call me whenever shit gets crazy."

[01:35:27:06 - 01:35:27:14]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:35:29:05 - 01:35:32:12]
Speaker 2
 The police captain, whose name is Fifi.

[01:35:32:12 - 01:35:38:05]
Speaker 1
 Yes. Oh my God. Every big, wonderful scarf and all the heat. He's amazing.

[01:35:38:05 - 01:35:42:05]
Speaker 2
 Max! I need to give him their heroes. He's huge. He is huge.

[01:35:42:05 - 01:35:44:09]
Speaker 1
 He's so tall and such a big guy.

[01:35:44:09 - 01:35:54:23]
Speaker 2
 He convinces him to just take some time off instead. So Max goes on a trip in his groovy bubble window 1970s van with his wife and son, whose name is Sprog.

[01:35:56:01 - 01:36:00:04]
Speaker 2
 Did you guys know that Sprog is just Australian slang for child?

[01:36:00:04 - 01:36:04:00]
Speaker 1
 No. George diggin' deep there with the writer on that one.

[01:36:04:00 - 01:36:07:03]
Speaker 3
 No. I thought Sprog was maybe a type of frog or something.

[01:36:07:03 - 01:36:08:15]
Speaker 2
 I kept thinking

[01:36:09:20 - 01:36:20:05]
Speaker 2
 Sprocket or something, and then Sprog... And I was like, "No, he's saying Sprog." And I was like, "Is Sprog a common Australian name?" And it turns out, nope, just slang for kid.

[01:36:20:05 - 01:36:21:03]
Speaker 1
 He's got your name for your...

[01:36:21:03 - 01:36:23:01]
Speaker 3
 I know. I was just saying the same thing.

[01:36:23:01 - 01:36:24:04]
Speaker 1
 Call him child.

[01:36:24:04 - 01:36:26:03]
 (Laughter)

[01:36:26:03 - 01:36:28:21]
Speaker 3
 Hello, child. You are a child.

[01:36:28:21 - 01:36:29:15]
Speaker 2
 I love it.

[01:36:30:23 - 01:36:42:01]
Speaker 2
 During this little journey, this vacation, they stop at a little outpost to get their tire fixed. And Jesse, who is Max's wife, takes the kid to get ice cream where they are accosted by toe cutter and the gang.

[01:36:42:01 - 01:36:45:12]
Speaker 3
 This is the most stressful scene.

[01:36:46:13 - 01:36:53:18]
Speaker 3
 It's gnarly because is that the point where they take the kid and they're like, "I don't know where the kid..." Or is it a little bit later?

[01:36:53:18 - 01:36:58:01]
Speaker 2
 They're playing with him and playing with her. It is super uncomfortable.

[01:36:58:01 - 01:36:59:20]
Speaker 3
 There's so much like hat and mouse.

[01:37:00:22 - 01:37:04:13]
Speaker 3
 My memory of this movie, I thought that the

[01:37:06:18 - 01:37:14:07]
Speaker 3
 torturous stuff was just shortened and way earlier. It was just like, "Man, there's a lot of just fucking with this poor family."

[01:37:14:07 - 01:37:22:03]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. And she's pretty badass. She's cool. She smashes the guy with the ice cream and then kicks him in the nuts and they get

[01:37:23:05 - 01:37:24:04]
Speaker 2
 running off,

[01:37:25:05 - 01:37:27:12]
Speaker 2
 not without a member of the gang, losing his hand.

[01:37:27:12 - 01:37:33:03]
Speaker 1
 Then one of the more intelligent moves finally came. It's like, "What do you think was going to happen to you?"

[01:37:34:03 - 01:37:36:04]
Speaker 1
 You hook a car with your...

[01:37:36:04 - 01:37:40:06]
Speaker 2
 And then the car continues to accelerate. It's not stopping for me.

[01:37:41:15 - 01:37:49:00]
Speaker 2
 Anyhow, they head off to go see either an elderly friend or perhaps Jesse's mother or grandmother. But if it was that,

[01:37:50:02 - 01:37:56:20]
Speaker 2
 there's a brief encounter with what I assume is the elderly woman's son or grandson and she has to let Jesse know about him.

[01:37:56:20 - 01:37:59:12]
Speaker 3
 I thought it was like a rental house or something.

[01:37:59:12 - 01:38:02:12]
Speaker 2
 But they seemed awfully familiar with each other.

[01:38:02:12 - 01:38:04:04]
Speaker 1
 Very friendly and she became very protective.

[01:38:04:04 - 01:38:14:04]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. She definitely was... And you'd think that if they were close enough to know this person, to stay at the place, that they'd know about that kid, whatever was going on. He's very large and mentally handicapped.

[01:38:16:10 - 01:38:25:00]
Speaker 2
 While Max is working on the van, Jesse takes Sprog and goes out sunbathing. But she finds out that the motorcycle gang has followed them, tracked them down.

[01:38:26:07 - 01:38:27:14]
Speaker 2
 They start chasing her through the woods.

[01:38:27:14 - 01:38:28:17]
Speaker 1
 Where are you going? I'm going to go about

[01:38:28:17 - 01:38:34:12]
Speaker 3
 four miles that way. Oh my God. Yeah, it's such a trek. This feels like a bad idea.

[01:38:34:12 - 01:38:44:20]
Speaker 2
 She's got to go through the forest to get there. To get there. And that is also a pretty scary scene, where she starts seeing them running through the woods. Yeah, it is pretty impressive. Filmmaking.

[01:38:48:19 - 01:39:28:11]
Speaker 2
 So Max, they start chasing her through the woods and Max goes out looking for them. But unfortunately, they miss each other as they're crossing. And so Jesse has grabbed Sprog and this is the scene where you were talking about, where the guys have her kid and then the old lady shows up with a gun. And they trap them in a row and they take off in the van. Unfortunately, unbeknownst to them, but notes to us, Max has not finished repairing the van. So when they're tearing down the road and it starts breaking down, the motorcycle gang shows up and they literally just run over his wife and kid in the middle of the highway. Pretty brutal. It is pretty brutal.

[01:39:28:11 - 01:39:40:16]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, it's just like that elongated, like, we're fucking with you, we're fucking with you. By the time they killed them, I was like, oh, thank God, I cannot handle this anymore. It's too much.

[01:39:40:16 - 01:39:50:07]
Speaker 1
 And then gets messed around with. Let's take one of the notes I have here. It's like, I remember some of the stuff like that. It's been a while since I've watched the tire shop and this guy with his hand, but I've forgotten how mean.

[01:39:51:12 - 01:39:55:10]
Speaker 1
 It's so rough. Just like Jesus. Yeah.

[01:39:55:10 - 01:39:59:19]
Speaker 2
 And when they show up there, Kundalini wants his hand back.

[01:40:00:20 - 01:40:03:20]
Speaker 2
 And

[01:40:05:05 - 01:40:07:14]
Speaker 2
 then they don't kill the wife. Remember? She's

[01:40:08:23 - 01:40:09:17]
Speaker 2
 in a coma.

[01:40:09:17 - 01:40:10:16]
Speaker 3
 That's right.

[01:40:10:16 - 01:40:13:06]
Speaker 2
 Never going to come out of it. That's right. The boy is killed immediately.

[01:40:13:06 - 01:40:15:12]
Speaker 3
 And he overhears in the hospital.

[01:40:15:12 - 01:40:17:22]
Speaker 2
 He overhears and that's when we.

[01:40:17:22 - 01:40:20:02]
Speaker 3
 They're like, don't tell the husband, but she's fucked.

[01:40:20:02 - 01:40:20:09]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:40:20:09 - 01:40:23:10]
Speaker 3
 He's like on the other side of a clear plastic.

[01:40:24:20 - 01:40:28:05]
Speaker 2
 This was the other thing that kind of surprised me because it had been a long time for me too.

[01:40:29:15 - 01:40:36:17]
Speaker 2
 I had forgotten that we are now in the third act. So, it was the third act before this turns into the road warrior, basically.

[01:40:36:17 - 01:40:37:08]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[01:40:37:08 - 01:40:39:01]
Speaker 2
 And I was like, oh, okay.

[01:40:39:01 - 01:40:48:07]
Speaker 3
 I really thought it happened. I thought all of this happened in the first act. I was shocked. I was like, holy shit. We're like almost done with this movie. Now he's going to get his car, I guess.

[01:40:48:07 - 01:40:59:18]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. It is really like 17 minutes from the point where he puts on the leathers. He goes and steals the black interceptor. And then he starts hunting down the various gang members.

[01:41:01:05 - 01:41:15:19]
Speaker 2
 Unfortunately, he is caught in a trap set by toe cutter and he is injured pretty badly. A one knee is all fucked up. His hand is run over by a motorcycle. That is a pretty interesting shot because it looks real. And I'm like, I guess

[01:41:16:22 - 01:41:25:19]
Speaker 2
 if you did that right, you could probably get away with not getting hurt too badly. It's not like a car running over. But still, that's a dangerous. Yeah,

[01:41:26:19 - 01:41:27:05]
Speaker 2
 this can hurt.

[01:41:29:02 - 01:42:07:13]
Speaker 2
 And then when we see Max, finally, he is looking pretty rough here. They have fucked him up pretty bad. He does finally manage to get back to his vehicle though. And chase his toe cutter into the path of an approaching semi, which splatters him. This is one of my favorite scenes of the movie, because if you look very closely, you can see that the front of the semi is just a huge metal slab that has been painted to look like the front of a semi. So when it runs into the car, the motorcycle just or when it runs into the motor, it just fucking explodes. And there's one shot where it's like a three quarter shot of the semi. And you can see the slab a couple of feet in front of the actual front.

[01:42:07:13 - 01:42:09:05]
Speaker 3
 And nobody,

[01:42:11:23 - 01:42:16:23]
Speaker 2
 you know, in 1979, they weren't thinking, you know, we'd be able to sit there and stop on 4K.

[01:42:19:06 - 01:42:22:02]
Speaker 2
 But I just love that kind of idea.

[01:42:22:02 - 01:42:24:07]
Speaker 3
 There's a lot of smart stuff in here.

[01:42:24:07 - 01:42:26:00]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, really, really cool stuff.

[01:42:27:04 - 01:42:49:06]
Speaker 2
 Finally, Max finds the last gang member and he sets up a jigsaw type trap where the man has got his ankle handcuffed to a vehicle that is leaking gas and about to explode. And Max hands him a hacksaw and tells him the car will explode way before he can cut through the handcuffs. But if he's willing to cut his foot off, he could probably beat it. And then Max just drives off into the wasteland as the car explodes.

[01:42:49:06 - 01:42:52:03]
Speaker 1
 And the way faster than he became in the indication.

[01:42:54:22 - 01:43:02:05]
Speaker 2
 Man, this was a joy to watch again, though. I was like the filmmaking in this. Unlike Dario Argento.

[01:43:03:06 - 01:43:04:09]
Speaker 3
 Oh, I was.

[01:43:07:00 - 01:43:20:01]
Speaker 3
 It's incredible. I will say it kind of makes me sad because there's so much great storytelling and like world building that doesn't exist in the later movies. And we'll discuss this more in the next ones.

[01:43:20:01 - 01:43:33:02]
Speaker 1
 I was kind of watching this thinking a little differently in that this is when the movie was made, this, of course, was not the intention. But now the movie plays as this wonderful setup for the movies that come afterwards.

[01:43:33:02 - 01:43:33:12]
Speaker 2
 Right.

[01:43:33:12 - 01:43:35:12]
Speaker 1
 As opposed to, you know, it's like.

[01:43:35:12 - 01:44:06:00]
Speaker 3
 But like this whole society doesn't really exist after. Like the police. No, but like it just feels like any kind of institution that was left over. It's just just all completely gone after this, which I'm disappointed by because it's crazy and weird and cool. I just I love the fucked up police station and the weird, I don't know, weird little towns. I don't know. It was just a lot of that stuff that felt like there was almost little pieces of society left that in the future films is just completely.

[01:44:06:00 - 01:44:10:15]
Speaker 1
 Well, I think that would be because there is just little pieces of society left. And as the

[01:44:10:15 - 01:44:18:00]
Speaker 2
 total cover gangs, when we get into the road warrior, you're going to see that now there's been a nuclear war.

[01:44:18:00 - 01:44:19:20]
Speaker 3
 Oh, I forgot about that.

[01:44:19:20 - 01:44:20:17]
Speaker 2
 So that's.

[01:44:20:17 - 01:44:28:04]
Speaker 3
 Oh, OK. That makes more sense because I was like, this is really sad. I really want to see more of this. This is what I find so cool.

[01:44:28:04 - 01:44:33:19]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, I do love the beginning. Every dystopian movie should just start with a few years from now.

[01:44:33:19 - 01:44:34:02]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:44:34:02 - 01:44:36:18]
Speaker 1
 Instead of putting an actual date on it.

[01:44:36:18 - 01:44:40:05]
Speaker 2
 Oh, my God. Yeah. So much smarter. The future. 1999.

[01:44:41:22 - 01:44:43:09]
Speaker 1
 Westworld. 1983. What?

[01:44:43:09 - 01:44:44:07]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:44:45:13 - 01:44:53:12]
Speaker 2
 I got some kind of cool trivia. Do you guys know that George Miller was a doctor in Sydney working in an emergency room before he became a director?

[01:44:53:12 - 01:44:58:16]
Speaker 3
 Holy shit. Explains a lot. He's like, I've seen some fucked up shit. Let me show you.

[01:44:58:16 - 01:45:03:00]
Speaker 2
 It was part of the way they raised money. He and Byron Kennedy is

[01:45:04:02 - 01:45:24:09]
Speaker 2
 he would do like odd job emergency things and have Byron Kennedy drive him out to a place that needed him to operate on somebody. So and they raise money doing that. You get it. That is so bad. You start realizing that Jesus Christ in 79 Australia wasn't too far away from what this movie.

[01:45:26:01 - 01:45:32:17]
Speaker 2
 What a shit going on. So he meets amateur filmmaker Byron Kennedy at a summer film school in 1971.

[01:45:33:20 - 01:45:58:03]
Speaker 2
 The two men produced a short film that won several awards at various film festivals. And then they get to work on Mad Max. They come up with an idea. They build super elaborate storyboards. They hire this guy who is not a writer to write. And that guy will even say his whole contribution was basically dialogue. Oh, and shopping all this stuff around to slowly build up this budget. And all of this took eight years.

[01:46:00:03 - 01:46:00:04]
Speaker 2
 According

[01:46:01:21 - 01:46:11:06]
Speaker 2
 to George Miller, his intent while writing Mad Max was a silent movie with sound, basically using as little dialogue as possible and just filling it with high kinetic images.

[01:46:12:21 - 01:46:23:14]
Speaker 2
 The film was shot in about 14 weeks over a seven month time frame. The crew closed roads without filming permits and didn't use walkie talkies because they're frequency coincided with the police radios.

[01:46:23:14 - 01:46:24:06]
Speaker 3
 Excellent.

[01:46:24:06 - 01:46:38:04]
Speaker 2
 And Miller and Kennedy would even sweep down the roads and clean everything up after filming was done. Wow. Eventually, the Victoria police found out about the production and rather than shut it down, they begin to help the crew by closing down roads and escorting vehicles for them.

[01:46:38:04 - 01:46:40:23]
Speaker 3
 That's so Australia. That's so cool.

[01:46:40:23 - 01:46:44:20]
Speaker 2
 You want to know something that's very Australian. Most of the extras were paid in beer.

[01:46:44:20 - 01:46:47:14]
Speaker 3
 That is 100% valuable.

[01:46:47:14 - 01:46:50:13]
Speaker 1
 The movie just gets more badass. Fostas.

[01:46:51:18 - 01:46:53:19]
Speaker 1
 I think they might be upset with you by that one.

[01:46:55:01 - 01:47:00:12]
Speaker 2
 Mel Gibson got the part of Max while still a drama student. He was paid $10,000.

[01:47:02:00 - 01:47:06:13]
Speaker 2
 The actor who plays toe cutter Hugh Kees Byrne went on to play a Martin Joe and Mad Max very wrote.

[01:47:07:16 - 01:47:23:01]
Speaker 2
 This film's budget is estimated between $350,000 and $400,000, managed to gross $100 million worldwide, setting a record for the most profitable independent film of all time, which it held for almost 20 years until The Blair Witch Project came along in 1999.

[01:47:23:01 - 01:47:24:22]
Speaker 3
 Wow. That's incredible.

[01:47:24:22 - 01:47:48:16]
Speaker 2
 And of course, depending on which version you watch, whether you have purchased it or downloaded it, you're either watching the original edition where the Australian voices are dubbed with American actors or the original Australian dub, which is not that difficult to understand, but the studio just didn't think that American audiences would like Australian accents, even though the movie is clearly in Australia. That's just stupid. Oh my God.

[01:47:48:16 - 01:47:58:05]
Speaker 1
 So much better in the original Australia. Well, that stupidity leaks into a totally weird random thing here. The Mariners have a broadcaster who's Australian,

[01:47:59:07 - 01:48:00:20]
Speaker 1
 and he's excellent.

[01:48:00:20 - 01:48:01:04]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:48:01:04 - 01:48:11:09]
Speaker 1
 And they kind of pulled back using him because a lot of people were complaining they couldn't understand him. And he has less of an Australian accent than these people do. Oh my God. Because he's lived in America for like 10 years.

[01:48:11:09 - 01:48:16:08]
Speaker 2
 So it's like... I thought everybody was like me. Every time I meet an Australian dude, I'm like, "Hey, how you doing?"

[01:48:16:08 - 01:48:17:03]
Speaker 3
 I'm

[01:48:18:05 - 01:48:21:17]
Speaker 3
 like, "Please tell me more." Exactly. Even if I have no clue what you're saying.

[01:48:21:17 - 01:48:26:00]
Speaker 2
 Also, even if I realize you're an idiot, just keep talking. Yeah. It's great. He's fucking great.

[01:48:26:00 - 01:48:32:18]
Speaker 3
 Just there's something really compelling about this accent. I will just sit here. Tell me it. Weed me a tail.

[01:48:32:18 - 01:48:35:15]
Speaker 1
 Unless you're a toe-cutter, then it's disturbing. But

[01:48:37:00 - 01:49:02:23]
Speaker 1
 I want to see more of that green car they showed for three seconds at the gas station. Oh, is that weird? Yeah. It's like, "What is that?" But... And watching this, because the first time we watched him, we were probably both under 15. Oh yeah. Well, yeah. No wonder these came out so cool. He is so cool in the beginning. It's almost to the point of silliness where he's waiting for all the guys to just beat everything up. And he says, "I'm all coming when I know I'm going to do it right." It's like, "Come on."

[01:49:04:02 - 01:49:10:08]
Speaker 1
 He has a 12-year-old I would have eaten that shit up. It's still really cool, but it's almost like, "Okay."

[01:49:10:08 - 01:49:29:01]
Speaker 2
 I think that's the brilliance of Kennedy's idea is, I'm just going to show a bunch of cool scenes that had tightening his gloves or the... The shots of the cars, we've done car moving shots and everything. You can drive 20 miles an hour, and if the camera is low enough, it looks like you're doing 70 miles an hour.

[01:49:30:08 - 01:49:30:16]
Speaker 2
 So...

[01:49:30:16 - 01:49:33:16]
Speaker 1
 Although he does use the speed up front, the speed up front all the time.

[01:49:33:16 - 01:49:38:10]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Yeah. And of course, a lot of those stunts were done at full speed. Yeah.

[01:49:38:10 - 01:49:38:21]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[01:49:38:21 - 01:49:39:14]
Speaker 2
 So... Oh yeah.

[01:49:39:14 - 01:49:48:12]
Speaker 3
 The stunt work in this is out of control. There is so much stunt work going on. And I know that there was some pretty brutal accidents.

[01:49:48:12 - 01:49:56:04]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, accidents and stuff like that, all the stuff that happens on a film like this. Yeah. But low-budget crazy men.

[01:49:56:04 - 01:50:00:04]
Speaker 3
 You hope that if you are... Being fed in beer, paid in beer.

[01:50:00:04 - 01:50:17:18]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. You hope that if you're injured or worse on a film, that it turns out to be a film that will be talked about 50 years later. Rather than say, I don't know if you guys know that one of the stunt drivers in the Wraith was killed on that film. And you're like,

[01:50:19:16 - 01:50:27:07]
Speaker 2
 "Sorry, buddy. I love that movie, but I really wish that it had been a movie that you could have been proud of, Jackie." Oh.

[01:50:28:18 - 01:50:44:00]
Speaker 1
 There's interesting choices in the way he does stuff. And it all works in a wild one. That is a weird motorcycle game. Yeah. Oh yeah. There are a few scenes on the beach and stuff like that. It's like, "I don't think you guys actually want women around." No.

[01:50:45:02 - 01:51:05:17]
Speaker 1
 You seem to very much enjoy your male company. Yeah. But I can just see watching that on set and knowing about being on some of the stuff we've been on, I'll bet there's a lot of those actors who are just doing wild crap. Oh, for fun. You know, just for fun. And it's like, "I'm going to go out on my motorcycle. I'm going to do a roll."

[01:51:07:03 - 01:51:09:22]
Speaker 1
 No reason. But it looks cool. I'm sure it's your inspector, Bob.

[01:51:09:22 - 01:51:28:03]
Speaker 2
 Well, the entire motorcycle gang, those drivers, those are their motorcycles. So they've probably been doing wacky shit in the outback forever. Forever, yeah. Some guy comes along and says, "Okay, I need you guys to be badass." No problem.

[01:51:28:03 - 01:51:30:12]
Speaker 1
 We can do that. This is Outback Australia.

[01:51:30:12 - 01:51:33:01]
Speaker 3
 This is what I've been waiting for. My moment.

[01:51:33:01 - 01:51:48:07]
Speaker 1
 They pull it off. It's a weird gang, but that's part of what I think works in the whole flavor of the film, where there's something different. They're not like every motorcycle gang you've seen and everything. And giving a guy named Toe Cutter is just uncomfortable.

[01:51:48:07 - 01:51:54:20]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Well, everybody's name is just so weird, too. You know, Johnny the Boy. It's not Johnny Boy. It's Johnny the Boy.

[01:51:54:20 - 01:51:56:18]
Speaker 3
 Totally. Totally.

[01:51:56:18 - 01:52:00:22]
Speaker 2
 So it all feels lived in and like there's a story behind everybody's name.

[01:52:02:01 - 01:52:08:15]
Speaker 2
 Okay. That was Mad Max. You have the next slot, so we're talking The Road Warrior.

[01:52:08:15 - 01:52:08:23]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[01:52:08:23 - 01:52:09:19]
Speaker 2
 Mad Max, too.

[01:52:09:19 - 01:52:11:20]
Speaker 1
 I think I've seen it before.

[01:52:13:01 - 01:52:22:03]
Speaker 2
 Do you remember when we were watching these? I didn't get to see this until after The Road Warrior. It was so hard to find this movie. Really? Yeah.

[01:52:23:04 - 01:52:35:07]
Speaker 1
 I don't think I realized it was a sequel until a couple years later. I mean, not like when I'm like 20s, but still when I was a teen, but it was a couple of years later, I'm going, oh, and The Road Warrior had a movie before it?

[01:52:35:07 - 01:52:49:11]
Speaker 2
 Okay. Let's go find it. The only reason I knew that is because so my brother was in a band that was kind of big, and he would bring over like magazines from Germany and stuff like that. And they had the poster for The Road Warrior. Only it was called Mad Max, too.

[01:52:49:11 - 01:52:49:21]
Speaker 24
 Oh, yeah.

[01:52:49:21 - 01:52:52:05]
Speaker 2
 And I was like, "What?

[01:52:53:07 - 01:53:04:16]
Speaker 2
 There's another movie?" I remember kind of being disappointed when I was a kid. It's a little different. Because I wanted more of what you were talking about, but in the movie I had just seen. I wanted it to be more

[01:53:05:20 - 01:53:06:18]
Speaker 2
 post-apocalyptic.

[01:53:06:18 - 01:53:07:12]
Speaker 3
 Sure. Yeah.

[01:53:07:12 - 01:53:20:16]
Speaker 2
 But as I've gotten older and everything, I think that this is a really nice, solid film that's kind of like El Mariachi or something like that. It's like, I've got a story to tell, and here is the first chapter.

[01:53:20:16 - 01:53:32:19]
Speaker 1
 And it's a really strong trendsetter of a film. Really early post-apocalyptic. I mean, Westworld had a little bit of that, and there are other words that were sort of that, but they're much more hard sci-fi.

[01:53:32:19 - 01:53:46:15]
Speaker 3
 This one is fantasy. This is what I'm going to... Yeah, this is the craziest shit I can think of, and I'm just going to go full board. So did he know when he was making this movie that he was going to... This was going to be part of a series of those? Okay.

[01:53:46:15 - 01:53:53:19]
Speaker 2
 No, I'm guessing that the $100 million that worldwide made the studios go...

[01:53:53:19 - 01:53:54:20]
Speaker 3
 Yo, Georgie.

[01:53:54:20 - 01:53:57:18]
Speaker 1
 Do we have a sequel? Yes, how much money would you like to do if I won?

[01:53:57:18 - 01:54:01:10]
Speaker 3
 Let me tell you a film about a penguin I'd like to make. They're like, "No, no. Let's

[01:54:02:12 - 01:54:03:14]
Speaker 3
 roll it back a minute."

[01:54:05:04 - 01:54:08:09]
Speaker 1
 I do love that he's the guy that makes freaking happy. Yeah.

[01:54:08:09 - 01:54:12:03]
Speaker 3
 Like, "Oh, why?" Did he do that because he wanted to film his kids could see or something?

[01:54:12:03 - 01:54:13:01]
Speaker 1
 That's usually why

[01:54:13:01 - 01:54:14:06]
Speaker 3
 people create...

[01:54:14:06 - 01:54:16:06]
Speaker 2
 I don't think you guys have seen that, but it's fucking adorable.

[01:54:16:06 - 01:54:22:15]
Speaker 3
 I know. You have not. I've only seen the first three minutes, and then my daughter wasn't into it, so I turned it off. So I have not seen the full length.

[01:54:22:15 - 01:54:36:06]
Speaker 2
 It's pretty good. "Tig in the City." You kind of are like, "Oh, this is what I would expect. This is a very dark children's movie." But Happy Feet is a really good children's movie. Happy. Happy.

[01:54:36:06 - 01:54:39:03]
Speaker 1
 A movie. Yeah. Fun music. Crazy shit. It's fun. Yeah.

[01:54:40:15 - 01:54:49:18]
Speaker 2
 Well, all right, gang. That means that next week, two weeks from now, we're talking about The Road Warriors. So this is the part where I say thanks to everybody out there who's

[01:54:50:20 - 01:55:05:15]
Speaker 2
 liking and sharing posts, who's commenting on the YouTube videos, who's interacting with us on the Strange Eons Radio Talk page on Facebook. It's the only thing I do on Facebook anymore. I haven't made an actual post on my Facebook page this year.

[01:55:05:15 - 01:55:07:10]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. I hear that.

[01:55:08:21 - 01:55:10:13]
Speaker 2
 Where else can they reach out to us?

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Speaker 3
 You can also reach us on the Strange Eons Radio Hotline. You can call us. You can leave us a voicemail. You can also text us on there. The phone number for that is 253-237-4266. Please get in touch. Let us know what you think about the show. If you have any questions, any thoughts, any suggestions, we would love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2
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Speaker 3
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[01:55:34:23 - 01:55:38:21]
Speaker 1
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Speaker 2
 All

[01:55:41:17 - 01:55:55:15]
Speaker 2
 right, gang. Also, let us know if you like this idea of attacking franchises. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if we do that. If we just roll into another franchise at the end of this, we go back to a single movie. We go back to... Yeah, it was strange. ...transgenres again.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. We'd love to know what you guys think. And if that's something you're into or, you know, if you were like, "Ah, no, we just can be special one-off moments."

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. The other funny thing was that I had mentioned this to you guys and we were like, "Yeah, that sounds like something kind of fun." And then didn't you just send me something about a local theater showing all of the movies? Yeah. Beacon.

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Speaker 1
 The Beacon Center. Oh, really? Yeah. I think they've done Mad Max. I think Road Warriors, like this week, I was like, "I'm going to go on a wonderful weekend. I'm going to try to see if I can make it." Yeah. I mean, it's a lot closer to me than it is to be kind of good for you.

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Speaker 2
 But like, I've never seen Mad Max or the Road Warrior in a theater. No.

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Speaker 3
 That would have been cool. That would be really cool.

[01:56:36:08 - 01:56:37:09]
Speaker 1
 But yeah,

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Speaker 1
 I think the only show, the day showing is like 4 o'clock in the afternoon or something. Oh, okay. I don't know. But that would be cool. That would be so cool.

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Speaker 2
 Well, all right, gang.

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Speaker 2
 That's it. We'll see you in two weeks and we're talking the Road Warrior. See you next time.

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Speaker 2
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Speaker 23
 She's making a golem!