354 THE ROAD WARRIOR!

354 THE ROAD WARRIOR!
Mad Maxathon continues, but not before Vanessa and Kelly compare their big announcements.

Also discussed: Disclosure Day, Supergirl, Masters of the Universe.

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Speaker 25
 Everything you heard is true. Oh and more.

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Speaker 25
 Strange Eons.

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Speaker 2
 Welcome to Strange Eons Radio. That is Eric over there. How do you do? That is Vanessa over there. Hello. And I am Kelly. Big announcement. Go. Ah!

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Speaker 3
 Wow, I feel so...

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Speaker 1
 For just a second I thought it was going to be you making a big announcement.

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Speaker 2
 Well I have an announcement as well but I think Vanessa is more interesting.

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Speaker 3
 I'm going to be really excited if yours is bigger than mine. Well I am producing life yet again. So it has found a way. And it will find a way mid-October.

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Speaker 1
 Wow. Life and chaos.

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Speaker 3
 Life and chaos. Oh my god. By the way, yeah. I am so glad that I started this journey before she became a toddler because now there's no going back.

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Speaker 3
 Toddlers are...

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Speaker 1
 Everything you heard is true.

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Speaker 3
 Everything you heard is true. Oh and more.

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Speaker 3
 They're incredible. Like the things they think of and do are so amazing and interesting and funny and everything but also they are the worst. If you want an emotional being that will flip at any second. That's the path.

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Speaker 2
 Now I don't want to get too personal and you don't have to answer.

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Speaker 2
 Due date is...

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Speaker 3
 October 12.

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Speaker 2
 Okay.

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Speaker 3
 And that's rarely ever actually followed by the baby.

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Speaker 2
 Okay and do we know the sex of the child?

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Speaker 3
 It will be a girl. Another girl. Another girl. Yes.

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Speaker 2
 Well you guys are fucked.

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Speaker 3
 No my husband is psyched. He did not want a boy so I don't care. I would have been happy with a boy because all my friends were guys and everything.

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Speaker 1
 Well boys are psychotic even more than little girls apparently.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah I will say having read mom blog forums and stuff I'm kind of grateful. I feel like girls are their own special form of hell but boys are like chaotic. They're just like physically chaotic.

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Speaker 2
 Well congratulations to you both.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah appreciate it. You don't get out of doing episodes so figure out how we're getting to do this.

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Speaker 3
 Live from the St.

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Speaker 1
 Anne's recovery room.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah can we film it? I'll be in. Make it a special episode.

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Speaker 3
 You're not gonna want that. You will make... you'll be so regretful.

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Speaker 1
 Flagged on YouTube. Probably.

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Speaker 3
 By the time you go into labor you stop giving a single F about anything around you. You just don't fucking care. You're like I don't care if I poop in front of everybody. I don't care if I'm naked in front of everybody. I don't care how loud I scream. You just don't care. You're just like a ball of chaos and the people who are stuck in the room with you you're like sorry you

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Speaker 1
 chose to be here. Doctors and nurses are probably running to the floor.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah my best friend was like can I come again? And I was like you can totally if you want to.

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Speaker 2
 Once wasn't enough.

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Speaker 3
 One thousand and a half I guess.

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Speaker 1
 A miracle of birth and watching you freak out.

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Speaker 3
 She's in medicine so I guess it's fun but yeah my mom was like I think I'll just watch your other child during that time. I was like that sounds great. That sounds like a good idea. My mom is not...

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Speaker 3
 she probably doesn't need to go through that again.

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Speaker 2
 That's ironically what Eric told me at Crypticon was I don't care if I poop in front of everybody. I don't care if I'm naked in front of everybody. I was like wow it's gonna be a wild weekend. It's gonna be a fun weekend.

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Speaker 3
 That's how you know it's gonna be in here.

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Speaker 2
 Well speaking of getting fat.

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Speaker 3
 Yes.

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Speaker 2
 I almost put the kibosh on the Strange Eons radio video after I made the mistake of watching the trailer for the last episode. Where I realized that I am a big fat fuck now that I quit drinking and gained 15 pounds.

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Speaker 2
 I don't know what that's like.

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Speaker 3
 Is that the opposite of what's supposed to happen?

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Speaker 2
 Exactly right that's why I'm so angry. And so I sat down and had a talk with my girlfriend and I said hey I'm going back to drinking.

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Speaker 2
 She was like why? I said because I can't keep gaining this weight.

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Speaker 1
 Just

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Speaker 1
 like there could be a middle ground somewhere but you know you gotta live your life.

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Speaker 2
 She was like interesting approach. I have to say. She didn't say I do not approve.

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Speaker 3
 I want to say that you know there might be a correlation between just being happier in life and maybe having a person you like hanging out with and eating with occasionally and maybe it's not drinking. Maybe it's just that you're happy.

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Speaker 2
 Well I thought you were talking about the person I liked hanging out with was booze.

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Speaker 1
 Yeah

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Speaker 1
 that didn't quite go where I thought it was. I'm not sure you're gonna say you know.

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Speaker 3
 I know when I'm in a really positive relationship or if I'm just generally happier in my life sometimes I get a little weak because it's just not comfortable.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah well I don't well I'd be fine with that if we weren't on video.

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Speaker 4
 Yeah sure.

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Speaker 1
 Well if that's an indication you know I've got a pretty

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Speaker 3
 happy marriage. Hey.

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Speaker 2
 Look at that fucking girl. You guys must be thrilled.

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Speaker 3
 What a good marriage. You know I'm just I'm just saying you know when the first there's a period of time where you're just like we're gonna go out we're gonna do things we're gonna like stay in we're gonna eat pizza like you just get to like live your best life.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah yeah yeah. Anyway what happened to me was I quit drinking and my sweet tooth just skyrocketed and I have started drinking again and I'm happy to say no candy since I started drinking again. My body was like okay this is what we were missing.

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Speaker 3
 I know this. We have to break this down somehow and we don't have room for sugar as well. That's crazy. I think that is a that is a wild approach.

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Speaker 1
 Well I'm not being. Well I guess I I helped fuel your your new thing today. Thank you.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah.

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Speaker 3
 How is it?

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Speaker 2
 You guys will be coming along with me in my weight loss journey.

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Speaker 3
 You're just gonna be late night tweeting this range to Eon's radio topic.

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Speaker 2
 My time loss and my weight loss journey.

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Speaker 3
 It has your taste buds for alcohol change or did you just pick up right where you left off?

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Speaker 2
 Oh right where I left off like riding a bike.

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Speaker 2
 Like drunk riding a bike.

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Speaker 3
 You know what you're drinking for two. That's right. Because I want nothing more than a cow bra.

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Speaker 2
 I thought you were talking about my

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Speaker 2
 beer baby. That's what I thought too.

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Speaker 3
 Oh my god nothing I say today. Uh yes I would love some alcohol so please just have a drink for me.

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Speaker 2
 I will.

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Speaker 3
 Thank you. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2
 All right um let's see you guys I saw a movie. I saw so many movies. This was kind of hard for me to pick what I wanted to talk about. Excellent. I saw Masters of the Universe.

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Speaker 1
 Oh my goodness. You know I've heard interesting things. I'm very curious. It's a fucking delight. That's what I was the one I'm looking for.

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Speaker 2
 The caveat being that I was not I was too old for Masters of the Universe when it came out. So that I did not grow up with the toys and the cartoon and all that. So I don't know if I would be bothered by any of this. But I thought it was freaking adorable and um had Flash Gordon vibes to it and a lot of humor and some really brilliant choices. And Jared Leto I was like what a fucking joy this man is as a CGI evil villain.

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Speaker 3
 This might be his best performance to date. Did you see it? I did. Oh my god okay.

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Speaker 2
 So please tell me what you thought then.

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Speaker 3
 I also thought it was really just a fun film all around. I will say it was probably an hour too long.

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Speaker 1
 An hour too long? Yeah.

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Speaker 3
 There's just a lot of stuff. No it could be like two something because it's there's a lot in there that's like you could trim that as much as it's all a little longer.

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Speaker 3
 But overall like it was still fun.

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Speaker 2
 It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah it was it was a great and um the main guy who plays uh Adam does a great job. Yeah Jared Leto the entire Jared Leto um Skeletor like sequence near the ending is the best part of the whole movie.

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Speaker 2
 It was so much fun. The effects were really cool but I thought you know for a for a person who didn't really doesn't really know the the original source material you just you know as an adult looking at the names of these characters He-Man and Evil Lin and all this stuff. Come on you can't leave out Fisto.

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Speaker 2
 Well that's part of the brilliance of this movie is uh Adam is sent to Earth as a young child and he knows about these people but he doesn't know what their names are so he's come up with these names for them.

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Speaker 3
 It's so clever. It's so clever.

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Speaker 2
 That's like when he meets Fisto he's telling them the guy's standing there with a fist. What do you call me?

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Speaker 2
 Fisto.

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Speaker 3
 It's very good. It's such a good workaround because they are the dumbest names.

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Speaker 1
 Yes.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah.

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Speaker 1
 That's awesome to hear because that's exactly what I thought it looked like. And then you know the internet being what it is.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. That's shit but. The other thing is I have a real soft spot in my heart for the original Masters of the Universe movie with Dolph Lundgren. I think that's a lot of fun. I mean it's it's not good.

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Speaker 1
 Yes I believe I don't know what episode it is but if you look back through our archives you will find it's talking about the original.

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Speaker 2
 This is a much better movie.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah but it's not Dolph.

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Speaker 2
 Dolph shows up in it and yeah it's it's really quite fun. I'm bummed that it is a massive failure at the Bunk's office.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. Yeah

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Speaker 3
 another superhero movie I guess we can jump right into. Yeah sure. Supergirl. I went in the box. I think we've all seen this one. Have we?

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Speaker 1
 Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1
 Sought yesterday.

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Speaker 3
 It was crazy. I was yeah same. I was sitting there watching it going I feel like this is probably a good movie. Why do I not I don't like it. Oh I just don't like it. You didn't like it. No no I mean and I've read like maybe it's because I've read part of the Tom King version so a lot of it I was like oh yeah that's the part and that's that part but it was also I just didn't I don't know I wasn't like I didn't really laugh I didn't really cry I wasn't I thought she did great. That actress is incredible. I think the way that they've portrayed his her character the way that she's connected to Superman's people in a way that he's not is really interesting. But there's so much where like her little sidekick can't like do anything ever like you're like oh yeah she's gonna be like kicking ass finally in the scene she can jump and she's fast and she has the sword nope still can't do shit she's just gonna wait to get saved again.

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Speaker 1
 I didn't have that problem because I did not think she I thought she's like in way over her head and needs to learn to stay the hell out of the way. But she's not everyone.

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Speaker 3
 She's just like a bag of sand the whole movie she's carried from scene to scene to scene and then like that's what I thought she was gonna be.

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Speaker 1
 Maybe in a movie or two she's going to be.

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Speaker 2
 I'd even disagree with that so I thought that you know as a powerless young girl she gets herself out of the prison fine she manages to sneak aboard all these things and do all this stuff she's just

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Speaker 2
 I don't know I I like the movie I didn't love it but I liked it and I I was like oh this is kind of fun as a non superhero fantasy movie. Sure yes I mean I felt very much like a 80s space movie to me.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah all the aliens are really cool designs like I thought the designs overall were really interesting I liked the different planets I think they were just beats that were like the fact that supergirl keeps being being unpowered and I'm like oh my god again okay are you ever in a place where you can like be good at what you do and she is eventually now and again but there's just it was a repeated idea.

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Speaker 2
 I did feel like

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Speaker 2
 she she lost her powers rather conveniently.

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Speaker 1
 Yeah yeah the green sun thing was a little

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Speaker 2
 that was a little long a little too much yeah but overall I was like I loved the the shoddy space bus that she gets on and the

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Speaker 2
 just silly fun all of the stuff the uh you know what I was really bummed about was I thought what's his name is Lobo was not very good he looked great

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Speaker 1
 I liked him as Lobo but he was not given Lobo stuff to do and

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Speaker 3
 there's no reason to be in this movie. Exactly right yeah it was it was fun to see like this character show up and then to introduce him but like he did he there was no reason for him to be there at all.

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Speaker 1
 They're just fun okay yeah let's see him in his own movie I guess later on.

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Speaker 2
 Oh I hope not I think that that will be the the death of that character he is paper thin there's no reason to see a full feature film of him I'd love to see him show up again as you know a side character but

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Speaker 1
 yeah Lobo was always one of those that she got I got the comic he's gonna be great these are fine

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Speaker 1
 when he was the main guy yeah I

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Speaker 2
 remember he was kind of a um a joke because it was a play on Wolverine and the Punisher and how how extreme everybody had gotten and everything and then all the nerds were like we love this even more.

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Speaker 3
 I had never even heard of Lobo until he got cast as Lobo and everyone's like he's perfect and I was like who is this aesthetically he

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Speaker 2
 looks just like him yeah the look

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Speaker 1
 is great the I thought it was a lot of fun I enjoyed the movie as well it's with the good theater experience we went to the 10 a.m. Sunday screening and it was almost sold out. Are you there? I guess it's not box office problem in our area right that's great but the the I wrote a great review about it that somebody was like a review a response to review or somebody was saying you know a movie that's six out of ten

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Speaker 1
 is okay not every movie has to be the new greatest whatever to come along you can watch a movie enjoy it and go on with your life but not anymore because you know every dipshit with a keyboard is now miraculously knows everything about movies and if it's not yeah up to that or if they insert politic whatever into it suddenly that has to be the main problem with the movie is well it doesn't agree with this aspect of my political thinking or whatever it's like

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Speaker 1
 let's watch the damn movie yeah

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Speaker 1
 yeah

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Speaker 2
 I kind of loved her um out of costume for 98 percent of his people and I was like boy I'd love to see a superman movie where he's just traveling the universe out of costume that's

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Speaker 3
 like a fun idea necessarily means something to like randos but yeah you know yeah it was neat to see her just drunk in a her trench coat and her you know wonky glasses and everything

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Speaker 2
 yeah and I I love that the stakes I mean the stakes get bigger but the stakes are really the life of her dog and that's what she's fighting for and I I was like I'm glad this is not a universe saving story

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Speaker 1
 yeah it's a nice change very special especially for a super powered yeah superhero to have it be yeah low key yeah

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Speaker 3
 no I'm I mean like Tom King is probably my favorite comic author at this point so like any adaptation they want to do of his stuff I'm I'm all in so it's

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Speaker 1
 he wrote the super girl one that

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Speaker 3
 this is based on yeah so like I knew about this space alien bus already there's literally like when this alien's drooling on her hair that's literally from it I was like

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Speaker 1
 ah good good call I think you know they got a great source

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Speaker 3
 yeah it's great source material so I think it was a really good choice

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Speaker 2
 and I think that's when I really started liking her as an actor was her reaction to everybody on the bus like that guy's comfy you know

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Speaker 2
 and I I'm like I don't I don't know who this Millie Alcock is I guess she's Game of Thrones

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Speaker 3
 from the House of the Dragons

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Speaker 1
 yeah I think she's more the new earth okay yeah

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Speaker 2
 but I thought she was I thought she was great in this yeah

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Speaker 3
 no she did a great job I think the casting is excellent I I think she did an incredible job and if anything I was a little like unsure about maybe some of the directing choices but overall it was a good movie I just was like

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Speaker 1
 I don't know why I'm not connecting to this I've had films like that before where I go and then I watch it again later and go I don't know what I was thinking last time I frickin love this movie now

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Speaker 3
 yeah yeah it could be it could be just you know maybe next time I actually hate this story what is wrong with King Kelly?

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Speaker 2
 the real surprise for me was David Crumholtz who is like in every fucking movie now and I just remember him as kind of a goofy comedian guy and I thought he was so good as her dad in this I was like wow this guy is turning out to be a really strong actor

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Speaker 1
 when I I didn't notice I didn't recognize him right away but a little ways later I'm like oh my god yeah that's cool he should yeah he was pretty good and I did like the

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Speaker 1
 that super girl's origin story

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Speaker 1
 was kind of new yeah it's not told a lot obviously right so it's not like okay yeah we gotta do the Batman origin story no we don't we don't do the Superman origin story either we all we get we pretty much know it or if you want to look it up look it up but hers is so interesting it's so fascinating

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Speaker 2
 it's different they do a really good job of letting you know I mean especially by the end of this movie that she is not Superman yeah yeah I was like okay I'm kind of I'm kind of interested in this character

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Speaker 3
 totally yeah I love like her very different approach and her like just yeah the way they shape that that character is just so interesting in the way that she views life so differently than him yeah

[01:18:53:05 - 01:18:59:02]
Speaker 1
 growing up with grief versus growing up with full family support right yeah super

[01:19:00:10 - 01:19:20:04]
Speaker 1
 girl all right as I often seem to say on this show let's go in a completely goddamn direction earlier this week earlier this week I experienced sleep away camp the midnight mass experience thank god it wasn't actually at midnight because you know I'm not 24 anymore but um I would not have been able to make it it was so

[01:19:21:07 - 01:19:45:06]
Speaker 1
 it was at the sift downtown which is the old cinerama so it's this 600 seat theater I think yeah and I'm like well really sleep away camp there and I showed up and I was like there's a shitload of people there oh cool and part of what it was was it wasn't just the movie Angela Felicia Rose was there being interviewed by peaches christ and so I thought he

[01:19:48:08 - 01:20:12:07]
Speaker 1
 had his name in here but any from uh oh uh Michael Varati who did a Q&A and a discussion and peaches formed a song for the first time which was fun because she screwed it up and so the audience was having fun and Kim was there Kim Douthit was there and her her uh in her theater because she does theaters like I love watching people screw up and cover for it no

[01:20:12:07 - 01:20:19:15]
Speaker 2
 explain to me um your your old man friend who and why do we care who peaches christ

[01:20:19:15 - 01:20:21:00]
Speaker 1
 is peaches christ is uh

[01:20:22:00 - 01:20:26:17]
Speaker 1
 drag queen from I think LA and about boy 10 years ago

[01:20:28:01 - 01:20:49:00]
Speaker 1
 screened a film at Cryptica so I'd ran into her before in Seattle and she was at utter delight one of the favorite guests because she did the movie and then she did a Q&A and just so much fun to work with and so funny and so interesting and tall as hell you know heels but uh so

[01:20:51:00 - 01:21:04:05]
Speaker 1
 just entertaining person she's been doing midnight movies for I think she's thinks that she's retiring this year after 32 years of doing midnight movies and performing at them in that way and doing other performances and making movies and

[01:21:04:05 - 01:21:09:22]
Speaker 2
 this is a touring thing that yeah so is it is she at all of this is where

[01:21:09:22 - 01:21:18:15]
Speaker 1
 okay all three of them are touring they went from here to Olympia to Portland okay and uh you know where after that but Seattle was the first one

[01:21:18:15 - 01:21:19:23]
Speaker 2
 oh okay cool

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Speaker 3
 that explains it because I saw a couple of different posting and I was like did everybody go to the same city where what is happening so I can see that yeah

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Speaker 1
 yeah Gretchen posted about the Portland one yeah but the part that surprised me the most two things was how many people were there because it really was a lot of books and um the

[01:21:46:02 - 01:21:50:05]
Speaker 1
 the amount of people that hadn't seen it that showed up what yeah this is

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Speaker 3
 why we seen it that's crazy to me

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Speaker 1
 peaches asked that and looks out the audience goes well we'll try to be much more careful the way we discuss this movie now because it was a lot so it's like that's I think is because peaches christ has a very large following and there's a very large uh drag culture in seattle yes yeah so if that probably was a large poll and they did a little like costume contest thing which was

[01:22:19:13 - 01:22:23:17]
Speaker 3
 all of this before or after the movie all before things that's crazy

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Speaker 2
 that is crazy now yeah now I see why yeah it was like whoops

[01:22:27:14 - 01:22:38:10]
Speaker 3
 would you talk about it yeah without because it's this is a pretty big reveal got a yeah it's got a shocking ending Felicia Rose uh not talking about it because that's you know

[01:22:38:10 - 01:22:48:06]
Speaker 1
 well they talked about a lot of other fun stuff like she was 13 when they did that sure wow she'd love she just fell in love playing her brother or cousin

[01:22:49:11 - 01:22:57:13]
Speaker 1
 and uh I wasn't sure I was gonna stay for the movie um and but Dina was with me she's like I don't know if I've seen it I think we watched

[01:22:57:13 - 01:23:01:07]
Speaker 2
 this but and you were like well this is your kind of movie we'll definitely stay then

[01:23:01:07 - 01:23:34:12]
Speaker 1
 but their interview was so much fun and I'm talking about it's going okay I want to watch the movie now exactly what they've put into it uh like Felicia was an interesting honest moment where she's like yeah movie came out didn't do anything and then a long time later shout factory put out a version of it and suddenly this she started doing conventions and all that stuff she's like this is kind of now my life yeah this is where I get most of the money I make is doing sleep away camp stuff wow and so it's like thank you to all of you

[01:23:36:08 - 01:23:36:21]
Speaker 1
 but uh

[01:23:36:21 - 01:23:49:18]
Speaker 3
 that's the story you want to hear you know like people getting like having this thing that they spent all this time and energy on that nobody cared about suddenly like showing up and being able to support them very very big cool

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Speaker 2
 was this a crypticon event

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Speaker 1
 no this was the midnight mass experience I was working with sif

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Speaker 3
 so does this have like a series of midnight stuff or is this just a

[01:24:00:08 - 01:24:03:00]
Speaker 1
 one it's their tour and i'm asked is there

[01:24:03:00 - 01:24:12:08]
Speaker 3
 and they just they just looped in with for it yeah that's so good because like the more stuff like that successful with sif the more often they'll do it

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Speaker 1
 right yeah that's that's a very good point um and you know like i said bell was there kim was there tony was there all the course all the folks and um but oh and uh uh steve lang was helping with because he helps every time felicia comes up he's he works with her so he was there and helping do the if you bought the vip experience of photos and autographs and stuff but so yeah that was a lot of fun yeah sounds like a

[01:24:42:00 - 01:24:43:10]
Speaker 3
 blast that sounds awesome

[01:24:44:12 - 01:24:52:05]
Speaker 2
 uh well guys i think we're all cut up i hope we're all cut up widows bay had its finale all cut up what a show

[01:24:52:05 - 01:24:56:14]
Speaker 3
 goddamn i know what it did are you happy with how

[01:24:56:14 - 01:24:59:05]
Speaker 2
 everything is yeah i'm really really happy with how this is

[01:24:59:05 - 01:25:11:06]
Speaker 1
 really really smart really clever and then there are little sidebar things like the let's do a slasher episode yeah each of those it's like they're so good i want a whole movie if it

[01:25:11:06 - 01:25:25:13]
Speaker 3
 makes it so much better because you know it's just like a little viewpoint and then you're gonna go out of it again so you don't have time to even criticize it or like shit on it it's like awesome you addressed this thing that's so cool

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Speaker 1
 and the stun gun bit was just

[01:25:27:12 - 01:25:39:02]
Speaker 2
 well and that slasher episode was shot so differently than the rest series it was shot like a slasher movie and i was like boy the the care and the love in this fucking series is amazing

[01:25:39:02 - 01:26:06:09]
Speaker 3
 somebody is a passionate or fan and just the i don't know there's something so refreshing about the whole series it just feels so good and just really ridiculously funny at times they had in the i think it was the season no maybe season finale or the second to last that random guy from maine stands up and he's like oh let me tell you about this before and you're like i mean it's perfect

[01:26:09:13 - 01:26:15:21]
Speaker 3
 and then just like quiet him down immediately but it's so funny you're just like this is just the perfect little touches

[01:26:15:21 - 01:26:20:14]
Speaker 1
 there's some weird thing that it was pulled off of uh inspiration for a parks and rec episode

[01:26:20:14 - 01:26:41:10]
Speaker 2
 the woman who created this wrote for parks and rec and this was a spec script that she sent to them that got her the job for parks and rec wow the first or the the the pilot of this was so yeah and that was a long time ago so that's kind of wild that she was able to then turn around and get this turned into a series whatever 15 years later

[01:26:41:10 - 01:26:54:00]
Speaker 1
 i'm curious what season two is going to be like because it's that thing where it's so good yeah it's not like the watchman tv series they did that one and done yeah which i was thankful for because it was so good yeah

[01:26:55:06 - 01:27:00:17]
Speaker 1
 thank you leaving that but yeah at the same time i think i really want to see i know if they can pull something good

[01:27:00:17 - 01:27:10:21]
Speaker 3
 it's gotta just be more of the same but now that we know the setup of the way the island works you know yeah we'll have to see how they deal with the

[01:27:12:01 - 01:27:22:13]
Speaker 1
 and i was honestly relatively surprised by the big reveal at the end i was like how did i not coming yeah i was like okay that was cool and really

[01:27:23:14 - 01:27:24:17]
Speaker 1
 really damn

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Speaker 2
 yeah that was wild i went and i immediately just started a re-watch of it again and i i caught all the

[01:27:31:13 - 01:27:33:07]
Speaker 3
 stuff i had missed you

[01:27:33:07 - 01:28:08:22]
Speaker 2
 know and i had said the last time we talked about this that i thought that um wick was like maybe a former mayor or something and i realized that the reason i thought that was at one point in that first episode um our main guy the mayor says you can't stand seeing anyone else in charge and i i read that as this guy must have been in charge at some point but that's not at all what was going on um but there are a couple of things i noticed in the last episode that that stood out to me like i think the son's blonde friend is part of the bad stuff on yeah

[01:28:08:22 - 01:28:12:12]
Speaker 1
 yeah there is some there is a weird thing yeah that seemed to

[01:28:12:12 - 01:28:22:01]
Speaker 2
 he closes he closes the door at the end with a little look yeah and traps the janitor in there and i was like oh i missed this the first time interesting

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Speaker 3
 oh gosh yeah those weird random kiddos like he's ah that's i like that that's interesting

[01:28:29:07 - 01:28:48:12]
Speaker 2
 yeah and then finding out you know that so we got the eight tolls of the bell at the end we got the nine tolls of the bell during the beginning of the series so only one person has been sacrificed to the island so i was like wow okay i thought maybe the guy who got the the shaman who got sucked into the sky that he might have been one of them

[01:28:48:12 - 01:28:55:05]
Speaker 3
 oh i thought that maybe like there was only one toll and we were just hearing it occasionally was i but i haven't watched it

[01:28:55:05 - 01:29:01:21]
Speaker 2
 yeah they talk about when when dale is in there watching the video yeah for if you've been

[01:29:03:02 - 01:29:19:04]
Speaker 2
 chosen to be a sacrifice yeah they talk about you know the tolls of the bell tell you how many so you go back when we first hear it well when the mayor hears it and the priest does not hear it that's nine tolls it's nine yeah and at the end of this episode we got eight tolls

[01:29:19:04 - 01:29:21:07]
Speaker 3
 oh i see

[01:29:21:07 - 01:29:23:09]
Speaker 2
 there's only about one sacrifice and

[01:29:23:09 - 01:29:31:19]
Speaker 3
 i thought every year i i just figured i hadn't been paying attention so it must have just been one and that the next year they're gonna have to do eight

[01:29:31:19 - 01:29:43:08]
Speaker 2
 it's um it is very rewatchable i mean i was not bored watching it again i was like oh i'm catching all of this stuff that i missed so good yeah what a show

[01:29:43:08 - 01:29:57:07]
Speaker 3
 yeah yeah incredible um well uh speaking of stuff that um i don't know how many i don't know how many people went and saw disclosure day uh i know that kelly has seen it have you seen it

[01:29:57:07 - 01:29:59:11]
Speaker 1
 okay i was kind of

[01:30:01:03 - 01:30:05:16]
Speaker 1
 i don't know last few still filbert films have been fine sure they aren't the things i

[01:30:05:16 - 01:30:37:19]
Speaker 3
 well you you always i always get a little like spider sense when there's too much advertising for something and they're like this is gonna this is the next best it's the best into jaws and you're like okay we'll see we'll see um it was um a real shit show of a movie i thought it was uh there there were a couple really good scenes there were a couple of really good scenes there was so much shit you had to wait through in this movie yeah

[01:30:37:19 - 01:30:43:11]
Speaker 2
 yeah uh like you i was like okay there's a lot to like in this yeah but man

[01:30:44:12 - 01:30:56:12]
Speaker 2
 it is it is also going to be so dated by all of the lens flares and the technology that's being used and everything i was like this movie is not going to hold up in 10 years this movie is going to look so stupid

[01:30:56:12 - 01:31:23:09]
Speaker 3
 yeah and it doesn't have like the script to support itself so i'd like you it feels like a movie where you missed somehow the entire first act you walk in and you're like i'm in the second act and i'm supposed to care about these people that i could give less of a shit about the only emily blunt gets like an intro everybody else you're already like on a journey with and you're like why the fuck like why would i care about that dude's girlfriend

[01:31:23:09 - 01:31:29:07]
Speaker 2
 at all i laugh she has some of the better scenes though and the interrogation scene i thought was really cool it was

[01:31:29:07 - 01:31:49:17]
Speaker 3
 interesting i would have cared more if i knew anything about her other than randomly apparently she was part of the church i literally laughed i was like oh okay that's a fun reveal cool i i don't remember your name but apparently i should care that you used to try and be a nun that's fucking great okay it was so weird

[01:31:49:17 - 01:32:04:16]
Speaker 2
 i yeah i don't know i guess i focused on like um russell russell's kid uh quiet russell quiet so i think he was ridiculous who i think is a good actor was not a good actor in this movie

[01:32:04:16 - 01:32:33:21]
Speaker 3
 no he was poorly used they were like here's a guy who's instantly the kind of almost antagonist and he never gets better and they abandon him and you don't have to worry about him for the whole rest of the movie yeah they should have had him be like kind of a wild card through the whole thing and then at the end you see him like watch and learn and he could be he could have been a stand in for the audience yeah and he was so underutilized it was absolutely crazy i was like why is he in movie

[01:32:33:21 - 01:32:38:20]
Speaker 2
 yeah um i thought colin firth was fantastic as

[01:32:38:20 - 01:32:42:10]
Speaker 3
 always this incredible actor i his character was fine

[01:32:42:10 - 01:33:10:08]
Speaker 2
 and then this is a case of um we've talked about this is a case of the third act being why everybody is talking about this as a great movie this is that's why titanic is considered a great movie is because it's it's shit until all of a sudden the boat is sinking and somebody's chasing you with a gun you're just like jesus christ this is pretty fucking intense well the third act in this is pretty cool yeah there's and i'm convinced that's why people are going this movie is amazing

[01:33:10:08 - 01:33:29:07]
Speaker 3
 i don't like i just figured they all got paid off how could you say this movie is good at all but yeah no i agree like the there the ending is kind of solid by the time you get there that's there's just but there's so it's such a janky journey it's so weird

[01:33:29:07 - 01:33:33:03]
Speaker 2
 it's one of those things where i don't there's a um there's a contingent

[01:33:34:05 - 01:34:08:10]
Speaker 2
 um and they're usually men my age who are either tangentially related to the industry or in the industry who refuse to give steven spilberg a bad review because he is steven spilberg they grew up with him and he is we were raised you know we were raised by two steve's two uncle steve's steve king and steve spilberg and it's tough when one of them puts out a stinker because you're just like i don't want to say anything bad about this guy it was so important to me but spilberg you know

[01:34:09:12 - 01:34:18:18]
Speaker 2
 i don't want to say anything because he's probably one of the greatest living directors right i think that's the last problem but you can be like you said the last couple of

[01:34:18:18 - 01:34:43:05]
Speaker 1
 years i mean ready player one was not very good horrible horrible and it's filled with moments there you're like i feel like spilberg learned these certain things for movies and he has to always have them like the like the end where all the ambulances show up and we've got everybody around at the end like it's big right right you can have a huge ending without it being

[01:34:44:09 - 01:34:44:22]
Speaker 1
 that kind of

[01:34:44:22 - 01:35:12:02]
Speaker 3
 huge yeah yeah there's just something about it i don't know it is interesting because there are a lot of directors who are incredible directors who are now in their you know final years and putting out some real whiffs and it's you know you i don't think it takes away from their career i just think that maybe like they've lost touch with that magic or maybe they're just honing it in or i'm sorry phoning it in

[01:35:12:02 - 01:35:14:01]
Speaker 1
 like like carpenter did literally

[01:35:14:01 - 01:35:34:06]
Speaker 3
 carpenter yeah like carpenter is your great example i love carpenter but i am going to happily be the first to admit as soon as he puts anything out i'm like it's gonna it's prom and i'm not gonna go i'll go back and his name is on it i don't know that he was even there he probably did not give a singular shit about it yeah

[01:35:34:06 - 01:35:51:18]
Speaker 2
 yeah at least you know like copula if we're talking about directors in the same era yeah he takes a huge swing and if it's a shit show boy he really believed in what he was doing yes or Spielberg stuff is all blockbuster stuff lately and it's like there's

[01:35:51:18 - 01:35:57:15]
Speaker 1
 no swing here he hasn't taken a swing since like Schindler's list or saving prime ryan or something like that and

[01:35:57:15 - 01:36:01:21]
Speaker 2
 hearing that bridge of spies is the movie i need to see he directed that

[01:36:01:21 - 01:36:07:14]
Speaker 3
 was the first movie i watched that i thought he i was like why do people like this guy oh well i hated that movie

[01:36:07:14 - 01:36:09:16]
Speaker 2
 written by the cohen brothers though so you don't

[01:36:09:16 - 01:36:22:15]
Speaker 3
 that's not true but there's something about that movie that's a special twist of like i for me it did not land for me a lot of people yeah i didn't it's like 50 50 i think people either really like it or they like me we're like

[01:36:22:15 - 01:36:37:05]
Speaker 1
 that's kind of it sometimes a sign of a good film to me because because you know not everybody it doesn't work for everybody so the people it works for it's really good sure yeah there's a lot of movies like that

[01:36:37:05 - 01:36:42:13]
Speaker 3
 yeah i mean i was much younger and i saw it so who knows but i i just i

[01:36:42:13 - 01:36:45:13]
Speaker 1
 don't snob too much or not yet not yet

[01:36:45:13 - 01:36:55:15]
Speaker 3
 not yet it was pre-film snobbery for for me but i would i would still say like i think that his work is previous to that like his his best work is probably before all that but

[01:36:57:00 - 01:36:58:16]
Speaker 2
 yeah 10 10 you're a big 10 10 fan

[01:36:58:16 - 01:37:07:00]
Speaker 3
 loved it i never saw it also it was like why am i going to watch tinton i never read this i don't get about it anymore yeah

[01:37:07:00 - 01:37:16:22]
Speaker 2
 all right anyway that was a disclosure day a lot of people saying that this was uh foisted on us to get us used to the idea that there's actually going to be there's so many

[01:37:16:22 - 01:37:28:05]
Speaker 3
 people who are saying that steven spielberg knows something that we know he always does aliens right i was like why would steven spielberg know something more than like any of the other people who could have like

[01:37:29:07 - 01:37:31:07]
Speaker 3
 i don't know i i think that's ridiculous

[01:37:31:07 - 01:37:33:02]
Speaker 1
 and counters was a documentary

[01:37:34:05 - 01:38:03:02]
Speaker 2
 this is the problem though when you put when you sit there and you go uh okay close encounters fucking a plus of a movie et right a plus plus of a movie even his next alien movie is war of the world there's a b plus of a movie you know with a with a fun kind of shitty ending but but you've got these three alien movies and then this one and you're like well this is what we were we were expecting you to do something like you did something that important again

[01:38:03:02 - 01:38:07:03]
Speaker 3
 yeah it really felt like um i i'd heard it compared to a lot of those

[01:38:08:13 - 01:38:41:13]
Speaker 3
 was it late 90s cults that were people were obsessed with this idea that a mothership was going to come take them away and how it lines up with a lot of that mentality of like positive belief in aliens being something greater than ourselves and i was like they're definitely going to make us into a meat market if aliens so i know probes all around i don't believe at all the aliens are like going to be the better men of humanity but he's their own he's their own who started that one only

[01:38:41:13 - 01:38:48:01]
Speaker 2
 only uh only one of us is actually bringing a child into this world where the aliens are going to make it a meat

[01:38:49:02 - 01:38:49:15]
Speaker 2
 process

[01:38:49:15 - 01:39:00:10]
Speaker 3
 we might have time maybe they're just going to watch us suffer in under our own um environmental degradation and go that was interesting now we've learned not to do that

[01:39:01:11 - 01:39:05:00]
Speaker 3
 we're just a really bad reality show for some of them

[01:39:05:00 - 01:39:06:21]
Speaker 2
 okay eric this is all right

[01:39:06:21 - 01:39:19:13]
Speaker 1
 okay we'll go super fucking here now 1973 is the final program yeah what is the i only thought you might know about this yeah because of michael morkock

[01:39:19:13 - 01:39:23:23]
Speaker 2
 yeah the final program the novelist which

[01:39:25:00 - 01:39:29:17]
Speaker 2
 have you heard this falls into the um the eternal champion cycle yeah yep that mean the book does

[01:39:29:17 - 01:39:39:06]
Speaker 1
 yeah this does not the funny but it starts out and i'm going like a full-on monday python comedy because the music at the beginning is like jesus

[01:39:40:11 - 01:40:13:22]
Speaker 1
 but um so it's based on michael morkock book of the same name uh part of the eternal champions a little touch of a bond movie yeah i could see um what's the name watching this for austin powers a little bit um it's a strange house full of traps with these guys he's working with that wander around there's a group of people trying to create the perfect person yeah by like molding people together or something along those lines i'm being a little vague because the movie is weird

[01:40:15:05 - 01:40:23:03]
Speaker 3
 yes i cannot fathom the three descriptors you just gave us into a coherent film at all

[01:40:23:03 - 01:40:35:05]
Speaker 1
 the thing that holds the movie together is the lead guy and a couple of performers are so much fun to watch that it kind of keeps it rolling along they're so ridiculous or they're so

[01:40:36:08 - 01:40:42:02]
Speaker 1
 stoic to the point of being comical intentionally or not yeah to be honest i'm not sure

[01:40:43:07 - 01:40:54:11]
Speaker 1
 but um yeah this was a severant release with all the bells and whistles and commentary tracks i'm i'm a little curious to see some of those later but it was

[01:40:55:19 - 01:41:02:07]
Speaker 1
 i can see why michael morkock has not had a lot of movies made out of his life this was the one people looked at

[01:41:02:07 - 01:41:12:04]
Speaker 2
 well you know i didn't i didn't discover this no maybe two years ago and i was so thrilled i was like what a michael movie because this is like as far as i know the only movie based on

[01:41:12:04 - 01:41:15:14]
Speaker 1
 any of this i think elric might be in the work but it's always been in the work so

[01:41:15:14 - 01:41:30:00]
Speaker 2
 so then when i watched it i was like boy there is almost nothing of the book in the movie and i found the movie really hard to follow i was just like i i can't really tell what is the plot of this movie yeah

[01:41:31:04 - 01:41:39:22]
Speaker 1
 so the advantage of the the podcast severant does about the releases is sometimes you learn just enough about the movie and they're talking about

[01:41:41:01 - 01:41:49:00]
Speaker 1
 we love that we're releasing this but this is really weird this is like weird for us weird i'm going oh my god i have got to see this

[01:41:50:06 - 01:41:52:15]
Speaker 1
 they're right it's really weird um

[01:41:53:16 - 01:41:55:22]
Speaker 1
 it was still fun yeah if you love that

[01:41:57:20 - 01:42:04:16]
Speaker 1
 late 60s early 70s vibe of films it fits right into that it's just the story so

[01:42:05:21 - 01:42:08:05]
Speaker 1
 unhinged that it yeah it doesn't

[01:42:08:05 - 01:42:11:04]
Speaker 3
 yeah i'm definitely gonna skip those but

[01:42:12:23 - 01:42:25:09]
Speaker 2
 i would love to know if you decide to watch the um the extras if there's anything in there worth watching yeah yeah because because then i'd like to watch that but yeah for me this was a real bum yeah

[01:42:26:13 - 01:42:31:01]
Speaker 1
 i i thought i at least had the the key up to that it's going to be really strange so i was able

[01:42:31:01 - 01:43:25:03]
Speaker 2
 yeah you know um so the eternal champion for those of you who don't know oh yeah um is uh this recurring character that shows up so morcock writes these fantasy books about these fantasy heroes and they're all in different worlds and everything but one book out of each of these series all these characters meet up and they find out that they are the same person just reincarnated they are something called the eternal champion and they all tell this story from the same book from different points of view as you get to the stories and it's kind of this really brilliant way of doing things and the only thing i thought what i was watching it was this guy looks like he could play a cool elric if he had white long hair you know he's very slender british looking and i was like i could totally see this guy with a black sword and being a kind of anti-hero wizard

[01:43:25:03 - 01:43:36:21]
Speaker 1
 and he had a good screen presence he like i said he's one of the main reasons the movie holds up is because he's just he feels like he's in on the joke if there's a joke and he feels like he's absolutely serious with going on if that's what's going on i

[01:43:38:01 - 01:44:18:04]
Speaker 1
 weird movie it's very strange but uh worth checking out if you like the weirdness but uh one i think you mentioned i think one of the things that make morcock such an interesting person to read because he's a he's i it's hard to say he's a great writer yeah you know like among the supers but he writes in such an interesting way and all the eternal champions were three different yeah it's not like all these characters are just the same with the different covering they he writes all of them incredibly different because i discovered morcock's with chronicles of quorum not elric not through elric and so i've read that what's elric like geez this is totally different right and really good but

[01:44:18:04 - 01:44:28:16]
Speaker 2
 yeah it might be uh i'm not sure about this but he might be credited for the multiverse theory sure it's definitely there yeah i mean he'll write about that in 69

[01:44:28:16 - 01:44:30:15]
Speaker 1
 whatever yeah i'll do the right time frame

[01:44:30:15 - 01:44:31:16]
Speaker 2
 yeah so

[01:44:32:16 - 01:44:39:17]
Speaker 2
 um okay why don't we take a break guys and then when we come back the mad maxathon continues with the road warrior

[01:44:50:19 - 01:45:04:06]
Speaker 26
 they call me the micro machine highway warrior the daring astute on the road here to beat up the highways with these mighty micro machine highway warriors please micro machine highway warriors are the mightiest micro zeffo with totally tough snap-on armor they'll leave you in the dust don't pick a fight with this micro might remember if it doesn't say micro machines it's not the real thing

[01:45:04:06 - 01:45:09:14]
 (Music)

[01:45:15:12 - 01:45:27:11]
Speaker 2
 and we have return uh we're doing the mad maxathon which means we are going through the mad max movies in order eric you get to start off with uh episode two of our maxathon the road warrior

[01:45:27:11 - 01:45:28:21]
Speaker 1
 or mad max yeah

[01:45:30:05 - 01:45:32:00]
Speaker 25
 this is what it has come to

[01:45:39:08 - 01:45:41:18]
Speaker 25
 here is where it will be decided

[01:45:44:11 - 01:45:46:18]
Speaker 25
 there it is

[01:45:46:18 - 01:45:47:02]
 (Music)

[01:45:54:15 - 01:46:03:02]
Speaker 25
 i'm gravely disappointed that you wish to take the gasoline out of the wasteland Defend the fuel. We'll never walk away!

[01:46:05:01 - 01:46:13:16]
Speaker 25
 Give me the pump, the gasoline, the whole compound. This is a land that prays for a hero.

[01:46:17:15 - 01:46:20:14]
Speaker 25
 Well, if anyone's gonna get in there, it's gonna be you.

[01:46:21:21 - 01:46:24:11]
Speaker 25
 This is Mad Max 2.

[01:46:29:18 - 01:46:44:17]
 (Engine Revving) (Tires Screeching)

[01:46:44:17 - 01:46:49:06]
Speaker 2
 Max. It's a long time since I've seen driving like that, man.

[01:46:49:06 - 01:46:51:09]
Speaker 25
 The warrior of the road.

[01:46:51:09 - 01:46:56:04]
Speaker 26
 You're okay by me, pal. Go ahead and take a treasure. The last of the V8 interceptors.

[01:46:56:04 - 01:46:58:23]
Speaker 1
 Every day we get weaker while they get stronger.

[01:46:58:23 - 01:47:00:06]
 (Whistles)

[01:47:00:06 - 01:47:01:10]
Speaker 25
 You wanna get out of here?

[01:47:03:04 - 01:47:03:21]
Speaker 25
 You talk to me.

[01:47:05:22 - 01:47:06:03]
 (Tires Screeching)

[01:47:07:04 - 01:47:11:10]
Speaker 25
 Now, to do the job, I need some high octane gasoline. You've got yourself a deal.

[01:47:11:10 - 01:47:13:17]
Speaker 26
 You can run, but you can't hide!

[01:47:13:17 - 01:47:16:16]
Speaker 25
 You're gonna crash or crash through.

[01:47:16:16 - 01:47:17:22]
Speaker 4
 I was wrong about you.

[01:47:17:22 - 01:47:19:03]
Speaker 25
 I'm sorry.

[01:47:20:20 - 01:47:23:00]
 (Tires Screeching)

[01:47:25:05 - 01:47:27:12]
Speaker 25
 When it's every man for himself.

[01:47:27:12 - 01:47:30:11]
 (Tires Screeching)

[01:47:30:11 - 01:47:31:03]
Speaker 25
 And

[01:47:36:09 - 01:47:38:04]
Speaker 25
 there's no place left to run.

[01:47:40:22 - 01:47:42:19]
 (Tires Screeching)

[01:47:47:14 - 01:47:51:07]
Speaker 25
 When all that's left is one last chance.

[01:47:51:07 - 01:47:54:20]
 (Explosion)

[01:47:54:20 - 01:47:57:11]
Speaker 25
 Pray that he's still out there.

[01:47:58:22 - 01:47:59:18]
Speaker 25
 Somewhere.

[01:48:02:18 - 01:48:04:08]
Speaker 25
 Mad Max 2.

[01:48:07:20 - 01:48:08:03]
Speaker 4
 Yeah?

[01:48:08:03 - 01:48:09:16]
Speaker 1
 Came out in 1981.

[01:48:11:02 - 01:48:21:15]
Speaker 1
 It's all over the place. You're not gonna have a hard time finding this movie if you haven't seen it. And the idea of anybody that listens to us, if the Bible had not seen "The Road Warrior," would be

[01:48:23:02 - 01:48:24:15]
Speaker 1
 glad to help you to a new great movie.

[01:48:24:15 - 01:48:26:05]
 (Laughter)

[01:48:26:05 - 01:48:30:10]
Speaker 1
 Directed by George Miller. We all know about George Miller. We went over that a lot there.

[01:48:32:02 - 01:48:36:08]
Speaker 1
 Co-writers with Terry Hayes, who also wrote "Dead Calm," which is

[01:48:37:21 - 01:48:43:08]
Speaker 1
 a movie that needs a little more talked about. "Vertical Limit," which I enjoyed. And "From Hell," which I don't think I saw.

[01:48:43:08 - 01:48:45:04]
Speaker 2
 The Johnny Depp from "Hell"?

[01:48:45:04 - 01:48:47:00]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, I think that's one. Oh, okay.

[01:48:48:02 - 01:48:58:10]
Speaker 1
 George Miller, of course, wrote "Happy Feet." You know, that kind of stuff. And Brian Hennant, who's more like character. He talked about him in the first thing.

[01:49:00:03 - 01:49:02:00]
Speaker 1
 Mel Dingbat, Asshat Gibson.

[01:49:03:08 - 01:49:03:09]
 (Laughter)

[01:49:03:09 - 01:49:06:12]
Speaker 1
 I brought a fun quote from him for this. Oh, boy.

[01:49:07:16 - 01:49:26:05]
Speaker 1
 Mel Gibson. And I looked it up. I verified he did say this. "I consider the Gospels to be verifiable history." Every single one of those guys, the apostles, which isn't true, one of them didn't, but died rather than deny their belief. And nobody dies for a lie. Nobody.

[01:49:27:05 - 01:49:27:20]
 (Laughter)

[01:49:27:20 - 01:49:41:15]
Speaker 3
 That is like the weakest shit I've ever heard in my life. As somebody who went to a lot of Catholic indoctrination. I figured you might appreciate that. Oh, that's beautiful. Mmm, chef kiss. That is somebody who has done zero research and is very blind. Yeah, yeah.

[01:49:41:15 - 01:49:43:11]
Speaker 1
 One of them did die of natural causes, too.

[01:49:43:11 - 01:49:54:12]
Speaker 3
 I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah, exactly. Let's take everything at face value. I would love to see one person who actually does everything according to the Bible because their life will be hell.

[01:49:54:12 - 01:49:59:13]
Speaker 1
 I read a book where a guy did that for a year. And it's hilarious. Yeah, it's done like-- It's such a good book.

[01:49:59:13 - 01:50:10:06]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, I heard like an interview with-- it might be the same guy. He was doing it for like New York Times. I don't know, some article thing. It's very interesting. Yeah, he said it was really rough. It was really hard.

[01:50:10:06 - 01:50:16:11]
Speaker 1
 Bruce Spence, the Euro captain, gyro captain. Yes. He's not having a sandwich.

[01:50:17:17 - 01:50:18:04]
Speaker 1
 Isn't he?

[01:50:19:08 - 01:50:26:23]
Speaker 1
 Dark City, he had it coming. Love and Monsters. Oh, yeah. In The Connect, he was in heaven. Kyle Nilsson, who's in the pirate movie.

[01:50:28:13 - 01:50:43:04]
Speaker 1
 And Emily-- or Emil Minty, who's the feral kid. Mm-hmm. Flute man, winners. I don't know. Made a career kind of being this kid. And Virginia Hay, who's in 50 episodes of Farskate. Yes.

[01:50:45:02 - 01:50:47:12]
Speaker 1
 The Return of Captain Invincible with Christopher Lee,

[01:50:49:05 - 01:50:50:07]
Speaker 1
 which I actually have seen.

[01:50:50:07 - 01:50:52:11]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I mean, it's almost fun.

[01:50:52:11 - 01:50:57:09]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. And The Living Daylights, the Bond movies. And this was her first movie.

[01:50:57:09 - 01:51:00:19]
Speaker 3
 Is she the-- Check with the-- Big eyebrows.

[01:51:00:19 - 01:51:03:15]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, with the little-- But also the shoulder pads.

[01:51:03:15 - 01:51:04:08]
Speaker 3
 But also the shoulder pads. Yes.

[01:51:06:04 - 01:51:10:14]
Speaker 1
 Let's see. Oh, the version. The version I watched had the Mad Max 2 as the opening title. Oh, cool.

[01:51:10:14 - 01:51:12:14]
Speaker 3
 That's good. Nice. That was awesome.

[01:51:14:00 - 01:51:23:18]
Speaker 1
 So watching this again, I actually-- I was like, well, I've seen this a lot. Maybe I'll watch it with the audio commentary on and just dive deep into that. It's like, start watching it. Now, it's been a while since I've watched it.

[01:51:25:11 - 01:51:32:01]
Speaker 1
 Because there's that beginning where they're going, all this stuff. And it's kind of like, you know, watching this with so much footage from Mad Max,

[01:51:33:02 - 01:51:47:18]
Speaker 1
 this must have been a little weird to watch is, I don't know, 12 or 13 or whatever. And I watched it the first time because there's a lot of really fancy stuff in here to think this is the first movie. And they just shot all that shit for me. Yeah. But, you know, now you know better.

[01:51:48:22 - 01:51:49:18]
Speaker 1
 It was just as evil.

[01:51:51:14 - 01:51:57:01]
Speaker 1
 I say George Miller does love his weird and unusual villains. And I think he does a great job with them.

[01:51:59:13 - 01:52:07:04]
Speaker 1
 The-- they did a nice job with time difference a little bit, aging his car and, you know, destroying stuff. Yeah.

[01:52:07:04 - 01:52:20:20]
Speaker 2
 It's a little harder to grasp the movie because of that huge jump in time, like we were talking about with the last one, how much you liked the world they were living in. And we're just not in that anymore. We're in the wasteland.

[01:52:20:20 - 01:52:25:09]
Speaker 3
 We're in a totally different version of this world, for sure. Yeah.

[01:52:25:09 - 01:52:30:23]
Speaker 1
 This is a guy who's lived his life for quite a while and knows the rules of living in this new world.

[01:52:30:23 - 01:52:36:12]
Speaker 2
 It's one of those things now watching these with a critical eye, you're like, Max is now just driving.

[01:52:37:14 - 01:52:38:15]
Speaker 2
 He's not doing anything.

[01:52:38:15 - 01:52:41:00]
Speaker 1
 He's just driving around looking for gas.

[01:52:41:00 - 01:52:46:08]
Speaker 3
 Well, if you don't run less. Getting in fights with people so that he can steal their gas.

[01:52:46:08 - 01:52:48:21]
Speaker 1
 Right. Though he does have a nice dog. He's got a great dog.

[01:52:48:21 - 01:52:52:04]
Speaker 3
 The dog is great. Is that an Australian healer?

[01:52:52:04 - 01:52:53:15]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Thanks, Sarah. That's right.

[01:52:54:19 - 01:53:02:19]
Speaker 1
 But basically, you know, this is-- this movie is even more of a car race movie. Yeah. There's definitely the seeds of Fury Road.

[01:53:02:19 - 01:53:04:15]
Speaker 3
 There's so much in that movie.

[01:53:04:15 - 01:53:05:20]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Yeah.

[01:53:07:10 - 01:53:17:16]
Speaker 1
 Max discovers the guy with the flying machine who's waiting underground for him. Apparently, that guy was so sick, he almost couldn't dig himself out of the ground.

[01:53:17:16 - 01:53:20:17]
Speaker 2
 Like, sick from something else. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, OK.

[01:53:22:15 - 01:53:39:03]
Speaker 1
 But I always thought that was a very impractical looking device to fly around with big guns. But they use it so well. And there's a very specific reason George Miller wanted it because he forced them to pay for helicopter shots.

[01:53:39:03 - 01:53:45:02]
Speaker 3
 Oh, yeah. I was wondering if they were getting double use out of that thing.

[01:53:45:02 - 01:53:46:15]
Speaker 1
 Oh, that's awesome.

[01:53:46:15 - 01:53:47:17]
Speaker 2
 Nice. I like his

[01:53:49:02 - 01:53:51:05]
Speaker 2
 alarm system there, the snake.

[01:53:51:05 - 01:53:52:11]
Speaker 3
 Yes. It's just good.

[01:53:54:12 - 01:53:57:06]
Speaker 3
 Good defense system. Ready to rock at eight.

[01:53:57:06 - 01:54:02:21]
Speaker 1
 Max's was good, too, when he got the guy and put him in the car and gave the shotgun control to his dog.

[01:54:02:21 - 01:54:08:21]
Speaker 3
 It was so good. And then the rabbit is the running past. The guy's like, oh, white knuckled.

[01:54:10:01 - 01:54:23:10]
Speaker 1
 There is very little story in this movie. But there is so much character in this film that it makes it fun to watch because there's so many little moments like that, like the rabbit and silly stuff that just works. Yeah.

[01:54:24:10 - 01:55:13:23]
Speaker 1
 So he comes across the place. He gets told that there's this magical place where they have all the gas you're ever going to need and goes to check it out and finds out, just being basically-- I forgot the term for it-- medieval castle. You go in and just keep them captured so they can't leave their compound. Crazy guy is driving around out all the time. So he's like, OK. I figure out what's going on here. And I thought that was a great scene where he's sitting there waiting to where they show you what living in this world is like, where he's eating out of the dog food and just not a lot of it. The other guy carrying his wooden spoon around to try to get some. And it's like, yeah, this is not a fun world to live in.

[01:55:13:23 - 01:55:34:08]
Speaker 2
 No, but then with that in mind, so these people live in a refinery in the middle of nowhere. They're somehow-- they figured out how to refine gas out of the oil or whatever that they've got out of the ground, which I'm just like, boy, there's a lot of engineering going on here.

[01:55:34:08 - 01:55:37:09]
Speaker 1
 There's a backstory to that. In the script writing,

[01:55:38:11 - 01:55:42:09]
Speaker 1
 it was kind of written out for probably legal reasons, it sounded like.

[01:55:43:21 - 01:55:47:08]
Speaker 1
 The group of people in charge were supposed to be

[01:55:49:05 - 01:56:01:00]
Speaker 1
 owners of an oil company. Oh. And when shit started to go wrong, they got a whole bunch of people together and went out to this place. To make little video utopia. They knew where there'd be an oil thing.

[01:56:01:00 - 01:56:01:15]
Speaker 2
 I love it.

[01:56:01:15 - 01:56:02:03]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[01:56:02:03 - 01:56:02:17]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[01:56:02:17 - 01:56:07:03]
Speaker 2
 Of course, none of that's in the movie. No, but now I know. That's right.

[01:56:07:03 - 01:56:10:21]
Speaker 3
 A lot of sense if that is what the story is underneath it.

[01:56:10:21 - 01:56:11:11]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:56:12:13 - 01:56:13:00]
Speaker 1
 The--

[01:56:14:12 - 01:56:16:05]
Speaker 1
 they say with the Fury Road

[01:56:17:06 - 01:56:17:23]
Speaker 1
 tease, there's a--

[01:56:19:01 - 01:56:38:15]
Speaker 1
 it's completely fruitless. They accomplish nothing, but you get a taste of it real strong with the-- when they send out the one chase car and get all the guys to chase them, and then they send out the cars that I don't know where they're going with food or water or something. And that, of course, completely fails because they don't have Furiosa driving. But I guess so.

[01:56:41:01 - 01:56:55:05]
Speaker 1
 And then that happens and unpleasantry happens and Max starts to come up with a plan to, you know, like, "I'm going to use this guy to get back in and introduce myself." And then they introduce the feral child.

[01:56:55:05 - 01:56:55:18]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:56:55:18 - 01:57:04:00]
Speaker 1
 Who, honestly, until this viewing, I don't think I quite-- I always thought he was a weird attachment to Humungous and his group.

[01:57:04:00 - 01:57:07:05]
Speaker 3
 Oh. Oh, you didn't realize he was the part of the other-- Which made no sense to me.

[01:57:07:05 - 01:57:21:07]
Speaker 1
 Oh. So-- and I don't know how long it's been since I last watched this movie. Wow. It's been a long time. So, nice. Oh, well, that helps a lot. He's just some weird kid running through the-- through the desert.

[01:57:23:01 - 01:57:33:21]
Speaker 1
 But-- and his characterized kind of bugged me because of that. I'm going, "I don't-- he doesn't seem to interact with anybody. What's the purpose of this kid?" That's a much better purpose. He's just living.

[01:57:33:21 - 01:57:35:10]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Yeah.

[01:57:36:13 - 01:57:51:04]
Speaker 3
 It was kind of funny, though, when you put together at the end that he's the narrator. Yeah. And you're like-- Yeah. He was like not even verbal at like nine or ten years old. And then at the end, he was very eloquently speaking about the world.

[01:57:51:04 - 01:57:54:15]
Speaker 2
 He's quite nicely verbal. He learned well. Yeah, he's got a lovely British accent.

[01:57:54:15 - 01:57:56:02]
Speaker 3
 He got there in the end.

[01:57:57:12 - 01:57:57:14]
 (Laughter)

[01:57:57:14 - 01:58:00:11]
Speaker 1
 The-- the gas people--

[01:58:02:18 - 01:58:17:07]
Speaker 1
 he would-- Miller did not mess around with the way he's like, "These are the bad guys. These are the good guys." He said, "When classic except for Max, all white clothing, all black clothing." Oh, yeah. Of course, Max is all black because it looks cooler. Yeah.

[01:58:19:00 - 01:58:19:16]
Speaker 1
 But

[01:58:21:19 - 01:58:28:04]
Speaker 1
 then you get an introduction to Humongous, who is a aptly named individual.

[01:58:28:04 - 01:58:28:22]
Speaker 26
 Very large.

[01:58:30:02 - 01:58:30:02]
 (Laughter)

[01:58:30:02 - 01:58:30:11]
Speaker 1
 But

[01:58:35:06 - 01:58:42:15]
Speaker 1
 again, it's such a simple story. Yeah. It just basically makes an offer to them, which is a particularly nice offer, but--

[01:58:42:15 - 01:58:47:00]
Speaker 3
 I don't know that-- I would never believe anybody in the Wasteland's offer. Yeah, exactly.

[01:58:47:00 - 01:58:47:08]
Speaker 1
 Exactly.

[01:58:47:08 - 01:58:53:23]
Speaker 3
 Like you can never think that like, oh, they're going to let us go if we just give everything to them and leave. Like there's no way.

[01:58:53:23 - 01:59:04:17]
Speaker 1
 Which makes the few people who kind of want to go with it sound really weak. Yeah. And they have arguments when they're trying to do it. Yeah. They're not sitting there going, "They're making interesting points." Like people just stop. Yeah.

[01:59:04:17 - 01:59:06:09]
Speaker 3
 You feel like they're very stupid.

[01:59:06:09 - 01:59:07:02]
Speaker 1
 Yes.

[01:59:08:09 - 01:59:08:12]
 (Laughter)

[01:59:08:12 - 01:59:17:15]
Speaker 1
 But now they've seen, now they know Max is like-- I'm not entirely certain how they figured out Max is the great driver he is, but they know he's a great driver. Right.

[01:59:18:19 - 01:59:21:23]
Speaker 1
 Probably just because he still exists and he's got this cool ass car.

[01:59:24:00 - 01:59:24:10]
Speaker 1
 This

[01:59:25:10 - 01:59:31:06]
Speaker 1
 is a long ways of refusing the call. Max does not--

[01:59:32:23 - 01:59:42:16]
Speaker 1
 he refuses the call. Usually the accepting the call happens often in a first act. But this one, his call up until then is just his own survival.

[01:59:42:16 - 01:59:45:22]
Speaker 2
 You're talking about the call to adventure, the hero's journey. Yeah.

[01:59:45:22 - 01:59:51:17]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, where he's supposed to do something he doesn't want to do or he's not capable of doing.

[01:59:53:01 - 01:59:57:04]
Speaker 1
 But eventually, I guess it's like, "I'm going to drive your gas trunk."

[01:59:57:04 - 02:00:00:04]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, that's pretty near the end.

[02:00:00:04 - 02:00:01:08]
Speaker 2
 He's almost a

[02:00:03:16 - 02:00:12:04]
Speaker 2
 man with no name character at this. Yes. So he doesn't necessarily-- I don't know that he is a reluctant hero so much that he is a

[02:00:14:05 - 02:00:16:03]
Speaker 2
 opportunistic anti-hero.

[02:00:17:06 - 02:00:26:15]
Speaker 1
 That's true. I mean, he does take the gas and leave and then gets-- Yeah. I'm like, "What happened, Max? You got taken out in like five minutes flat."

[02:00:26:15 - 02:00:52:01]
Speaker 2
 So we talk about what-- I'm not sure what this scene does except-- but you're talking about he gets his payment for bringing them the truck. Yeah. And he takes off and they hunt him down pretty quick, destroy his car, kill his fucking dog. Yeah. And then almost kill him. And I'm like, "What was the point of him leaving by himself and just letting all those guys come after him? Why wouldn't he leave when the convoy is planning to leave?"

[02:00:52:01 - 02:01:04:12]
Speaker 3
 He seems like so smart in that first setup where he's watching and waiting and trying to time things and trying to figure it out. Yeah. And then when he's just like, "All right, bye. I got all this expensive, nice gear on me. I'm just waiting to get robbed." It's a good guess.

[02:01:04:12 - 02:01:12:17]
Speaker 2
 It's a weak part in the story because it only happens to put him into the point where he can then deal with them to

[02:01:12:17 - 02:01:13:23]
Speaker 3
 drive the-- Yeah, 100%.

[02:01:13:23 - 02:01:17:15]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, which does hurt the story a little. It would have been,

[02:01:18:15 - 02:01:31:03]
Speaker 1
 who knows, lower budget, time constraints big time. It would have been nice to give him maybe a little bit of like, "Okay, I'm going to leave one seat. I'm going to leave and I'll recover a dark--" or some shit like that. I don't know, something.

[02:01:31:03 - 02:01:41:08]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, and one loser sees him and there's some small mistake that gets made instead of him just being like, "I'm going to drive them from all these people."

[02:01:41:08 - 02:01:45:04]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, his car's not exactly on stealth mode.

[02:01:45:04 - 02:01:47:10]
Speaker 3
 No. Absolutely not.

[02:01:48:18 - 02:02:09:12]
Speaker 1
 But, yeah, so he comes back and says, "I'm going to drive now." There's a great little bit in there with the mechanic who for every reason bounces around on a rubber band. Right. But where the leader's yelling at him trying to get the notification of what's going on and he whispers it to the one guy and the other guy yells it. That was made up by those two actors.

[02:02:09:12 - 02:02:10:02]
Speaker 3
 Oh, really?

[02:02:10:02 - 02:02:14:06]
Speaker 1
 And Miller's like, "That is so awesome. Thank you.

[02:02:14:06 - 02:02:17:01]
Speaker 3
 I love that." That was so good. That was so good.

[02:02:17:01 - 02:02:24:18]
Speaker 1
 But, yeah, there's a nice little almost Scotty Star Trek moment there where he's like, "Okay, I can do it in that amount."

[02:02:24:18 - 02:02:29:18]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, it was very good. That was my first thought too. I was like, "Star Trek."

[02:02:31:05 - 02:02:33:16]
Speaker 1
 So they get everything put together, as it were.

[02:02:37:18 - 02:03:03:15]
Speaker 1
 Well, when one of the fights, a few of them get in before they leave. There's a headbutt in there. And I noticed right when their heads hit, there's a giant flash of light. And I'm like, "Did I see what I thought I said?" So I rewinded and watched it. And it's like, I guess, George didn't like the headbutt effect or something because he covers up what would have been the moment of impact. It's this weird flash of light that is... I miss that. I miss it too. I miss it too.

[02:03:04:16 - 02:03:09:09]
Speaker 1
 And so I was like, "Oh, okay." But the guy's flip to get to where he does the headbutt. It's damn nice.

[02:03:11:15 - 02:03:15:07]
Speaker 1
 So then they leave. They go out on their

[02:03:16:18 - 02:03:21:06]
Speaker 1
 driving thing. And then basically the rest of the movie is

[02:03:22:16 - 02:03:23:09]
Speaker 1
 Fury Road.

[02:03:23:09 - 02:03:40:15]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, the whole point of this... I mean, it turns into a big car chase scene, but it's also kind of a head scratcher when you think about it. It's like, "Where are they going? They're just trying to escape with this gas, but they don't have a destination, right?"

[02:03:40:15 - 02:03:45:02]
Speaker 3
 I thought they said something. I thought they said something about there's some...

[02:03:45:02 - 02:03:45:20]
Speaker 1
 Well, by

[02:03:46:21 - 02:03:48:20]
Speaker 1
 the end of the movie, they're a...

[02:03:48:20 - 02:03:56:01]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, he's a distraction. Yeah, the distraction. But he would have had... Because he doesn't know that. So he has to believe...

[02:03:56:01 - 02:04:06:17]
Speaker 3
 I think there's something like 20... Some crazy amount of miles that they have to go. And I was like, "Oh, man, how's he going to drive the truck that far?" Yeah, he didn't... That's a real commitment to be with these people.

[02:04:06:17 - 02:04:07:05]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[02:04:07:05 - 02:04:11:21]
Speaker 3
 I think that they were going to some utopian idea of a place that they'd heard of.

[02:04:11:21 - 02:04:17:12]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, because when he wrecks... It's like sand. Yeah, it's always sand.

[02:04:17:12 - 02:04:26:12]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, he's gone through all that. I mean, what an amazing fucking chase scene that is. With all the battles and everything, you're like, "Boy, I can't believe what they were able to accomplish."

[02:04:26:12 - 02:04:29:04]
Speaker 3
 It's really crazy. Really, really cool.

[02:04:29:04 - 02:04:33:09]
Speaker 1
 The audio commentary I listened to some of is Miller and the DP.

[02:04:34:10 - 02:05:01:14]
Speaker 1
 And they're talking a lot about... They're just kind of set things up and let the stuntmen figure their shit out. The DP had a great kind of psych. I don't know what it is about stuntmen, but you show them any scene in the movie, and they will watch you with more precision than any other crew member I know. Wow. And he's like, "I was watching this scene not too long ago with this guy, and he was explaining to him all the stunts that were going on and how they had to be accomplished." And remembering back is like, "Yeah, he was right." Not everything he's talking about. Wow.

[02:05:03:13 - 02:05:06:20]
Speaker 1
 You did get another villain taken out by a head-on crash with a

[02:05:08:01 - 02:05:10:09]
Speaker 1
 head-on to the back of a semi this time.

[02:05:10:09 - 02:05:32:10]
Speaker 3
 I think that was the only part of the movie that I thought was a little weak, was the two biggest antagonists were just kind of mooshed. Like, "All right, it's all done. Don't worry about it." It just felt really anticlimactic. I was like, "Oh, okay. I guess that's... The main bad guy just died. Okay. Bye."

[02:05:33:19 - 02:05:35:16]
Speaker 1
 Well, you know, car caches are unexpected.

[02:05:35:16 - 02:05:38:06]
Speaker 3
 I guess so. I guess so.

[02:05:41:18 - 02:05:47:04]
Speaker 1
 The shot near that end when it

[02:05:48:13 - 02:05:57:06]
Speaker 1
 explodes, and you've got some of the marauders still watching in the background, they were talking about that shot and why it looks a little weird

[02:05:58:06 - 02:06:21:23]
Speaker 1
 is it was almost night. They were shooting it at the Golden Arrow and ran out of time. It's almost night, so he pushed the film as far as he could with the aperture. And that's why if you look at it, the guys in the foreground are blurry because the depth of field just flattens away when you do that. So they got the shot they needed, but it looks weird. And Miller's like, "I don't think anybody walked out of the theater because of that."

[02:06:25:03 - 02:06:27:17]
Speaker 1
 But the film was shot in order.

[02:06:27:17 - 02:06:42:15]
Speaker 3
 Oh, wow. I mean, I guess that makes sense. Did they... Because they explode that town. Did they talk at all about... Was that... It didn't look like a miniature? It looked like a full-scale explosion?

[02:06:42:15 - 02:06:44:19]
Speaker 1
 I didn't see too much on that.

[02:06:44:19 - 02:06:47:10]
Speaker 2
 Oh, yeah. That's right. They bootstrapped the refinery.

[02:06:47:10 - 02:06:58:06]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. It felt like a really big-sized explosion. I was like, "Damn, guys. That would make sense if it was shot in order because you have to maintain that until you don't... No, you don't.

[02:06:58:06 - 02:07:03:02]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Knowing the way Miller works from the stuff I've watched, I'm sure it was real.

[02:07:03:02 - 02:07:07:11]
Speaker 2
 Well, you see tires bouncing out and shit like that. Yeah. Yeah.

[02:07:07:11 - 02:07:22:08]
Speaker 3
 Like the big series of tires that you put in there. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And I was also curious about the shot when he's watching them below. Is that actually set up where he's sitting there with the dog and the

[02:07:23:22 - 02:07:30:19]
Speaker 3
 outpost and then way off in the distance you have the camp? Or was that comped? I was curious about that too.

[02:07:30:19 - 02:07:32:13]
Speaker 1
 I think it's location.

[02:07:32:13 - 02:07:33:00]
Speaker 3
 Okay.

[02:07:33:00 - 02:07:36:12]
Speaker 1
 I wouldn't be shocked because like... Yeah. The way they shot...

[02:07:36:12 - 02:07:39:03]
Speaker 3
 But it's incredible. It's an incredible looking shot.

[02:07:39:03 - 02:08:06:10]
Speaker 1
 It was a 12-week shoot. Yeah. Well, they probably... They did some stuff in the... Onsets. So it might have been compounded. I didn't notice that one. But the... The teepee's like... If you're watching the car scenes, if you watch closely on the background, if the ground is moving, we're actually moving. If it's not, we're either on a set someplace or we had to stop to do whatever the stunt was. Oh, interesting.

[02:08:06:10 - 02:08:12:10]
Speaker 3
 So crazy. Yeah. In sound design, you just wouldn't even clock it. Yeah. That's amazing. I like that.

[02:08:12:10 - 02:08:24:14]
Speaker 1
 It took one year from the point where he began writing the screenplay for Miller to its theatrical release. Crazy. Crazy. Jesus Christ. A fun...

[02:08:25:18 - 02:08:34:22]
Speaker 1
 The initial script, Fury Road, was written in 2003. Took a little longer to get done. But shooting for this one is 12 weeks, I said. The budget...

[02:08:36:09 - 02:08:56:03]
Speaker 1
 I think it was Joe Dante. He saw it and he's like, "Yep, there's definitely a low budget movie." And he was talking to the DP later. He's like, "I can tell it was low budget." He's like, "Why is that?" Because, well, it's sunny, then it's cloudy. If it's sunrise, then it's sunset. And it flips back and forth, not in order. Yeah. And once he mentioned that, I was like,

[02:08:57:08 - 02:09:07:09]
Speaker 1
 "If you're looking for it, it's really obvious. But the way the movie rolls, you got to kind of pay attention to see, "Oh, whoa, this is now cloudy. Now it's sunny."

[02:09:07:09 - 02:09:08:06]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[02:09:08:06 - 02:09:11:03]
Speaker 1
 But... And the

[02:09:12:11 - 02:09:18:06]
Speaker 1
 guys that squished into the back of the croc were, you know, "Watermelons with Wigs." Oh, is that how they did that?

[02:09:18:06 - 02:09:19:12]
Speaker 3
 Very good.

[02:09:21:21 - 02:09:26:16]
Speaker 1
 This is weird. This was mind-blowing for me, and I'll see if you feel the same way as an editor.

[02:09:27:21 - 02:09:32:16]
Speaker 1
 Miller edited the movie with no sound, so he's cutting visuals only.

[02:09:32:16 - 02:09:34:06]
Speaker 3
 Whoa. Okay.

[02:09:34:06 - 02:09:44:13]
Speaker 1
 It's so... I mean, just mentally, it's so exhausting to edit without sound. I've done that for a short one time, which I ended up just putting music into, just because

[02:09:45:19 - 02:09:46:05]
Speaker 1
 I'm like...

[02:09:48:08 - 02:09:53:09]
Speaker 1
 It's weird. It just disconnected me so much from what I was editing, that thing is wild that he was able to...

[02:09:53:09 - 02:10:21:10]
Speaker 3
 I think for the way that I edit, that's really common, because I'm usually... I'm so often doing gameplay trailers but a lot of times either they recorded it without sound or it's just so secondary, and I'm going to do the sound pass next that I don't even... That's cool. Yeah. But I do know that I've had a problem where the opposite somebody brings to me and they go, "Okay, make a radio edit version of this." I'm like, "You want what now?"

[02:10:21:10 - 02:10:22:10]
 (Laughter)

[02:10:22:10 - 02:10:28:12]
Speaker 3
 I'm like, "You want the sound, but not the picture? Am I making a podcast for you? What is happening here?"

[02:10:28:12 - 02:10:30:17]
Speaker 1
 Especially for a video game. Yeah. Yeah.

[02:10:30:17 - 02:10:36:18]
Speaker 3
 That's only happened once before and I was not good at it, so yes.

[02:10:38:08 - 02:10:44:07]
Speaker 1
 Another amazing thing is making filmmakers. The lighting was not planned.

[02:10:45:07 - 02:10:49:16]
Speaker 1
 They just lit as they needed as they were shooting.

[02:10:49:16 - 02:10:57:23]
Speaker 3
 Oh, interesting. Well, I mean, when you're out on that location, I'm guessing from the way they're running things, they're just like, they got some lights and they're like, "All right, let's go set some shit up, I guess, it's dark."

[02:10:57:23 - 02:11:23:00]
Speaker 1
 That's pretty much what they did. That's crazy. The DP Dean Semler says it's the most talked about film he's ever worked on. He shot 135 films, including Super Mario Brothers, City Slickers, Young Guns 1 and 2, and Dances with Wolves. Wow. But she either was nominated for or won an Oscar for. They said Far and Away. It's reward.

[02:11:23:00 - 02:11:23:08]
Speaker 4
 Wow.

[02:11:23:08 - 02:11:24:20]
Speaker 1
 Everybody asks them about.

[02:11:27:04 - 02:11:32:23]
Speaker 1
 They used the location they did in Australia because it wasn't supposed to have rain.

[02:11:34:08 - 02:11:42:12]
Speaker 1
 So, of course, it got the first big rainfall in four years that shut them down for a week.

[02:11:42:12 - 02:11:44:00]
Speaker 3
 Oh, my God.

[02:11:44:00 - 02:11:46:17]
Speaker 1
 Dude, she needed 12 weeks. That's a lot to learn.

[02:11:46:17 - 02:11:48:09]
Speaker 2
 Oh, my God.

[02:11:48:09 - 02:11:56:10]
Speaker 1
 There was talk early on in the script, although obviously there's problems with it. Quickly. But Humongous bounced

[02:11:58:06 - 02:12:00:13]
Speaker 1
 around having it be Jim Goose. Oh.

[02:12:02:07 - 02:12:06:09]
Speaker 2
 That character. But, I mean, not the character.

[02:12:07:21 - 02:12:10:02]
Speaker 1
 That's his former partner, Jim Goose.

[02:12:10:02 - 02:12:14:22]
Speaker 2
 Oh, so not the actor, but the actual character would have been? Oh, that's interesting.

[02:12:14:22 - 02:12:17:05]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. But, you know, it's

[02:12:18:08 - 02:12:20:19]
Speaker 1
 hard to do. You never know.

[02:12:22:00 - 02:12:22:18]
Speaker 1
 Oh, that's.

[02:12:25:01 - 02:12:34:08]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, they're saying part of the explanation would be that he kind of has that weird shot of his head where it looks like he's been a burn victim. Yeah. And that's why I wore the hockey mask. And that's

[02:12:35:12 - 02:12:36:05]
Speaker 3
 interesting.

[02:12:36:05 - 02:12:38:01]
Speaker 1
 But they just kept that.

[02:12:39:03 - 02:12:39:08]
Speaker 1
 Hmm.

[02:12:40:13 - 02:12:42:06]
Speaker 1
 Whatever. Yeah. And I think that's a.

[02:12:44:23 - 02:12:51:17]
Speaker 1
 Renamed the road where we talked about because Mad Max two and nobody over here had seen Mad Max yet. When it first came out.

[02:12:53:23 - 02:13:12:06]
Speaker 1
 The. This was supposed to be it for the road warrior. He wanted this to be the last one where it ends with him standing on the freeway and nobody knows what happens to him. But he wanted to do a version of Lord of the Flies as a film. And somebody said, I bet you could get it greenlit if you put Max in it somehow.

[02:13:13:21 - 02:13:22:18]
Speaker 1
 That's where the movie you'll be talking about. Yes. Came from was that you wanted to do Lord of the Flies. And that was not the last shot.

[02:13:23:18 - 02:13:52:18]
Speaker 1
 And another interesting one, because I remember seeing the there's the wheelie stunt early on where the guy in the motorcycle flies off. It's like, oh, looks like a dummy. No, that was a real person on the back of it. I mean, it was the stuntman's girlfriend. Oh, wow. So just a local resident. She was not a stunt person at all. She paid with their. And part of the reason Miller wanted to do this because he wanted to get.

[02:13:53:21 - 02:13:54:22]
Speaker 1
 All the Mad Max.

[02:13:56:23 - 02:14:08:12]
Speaker 1
 Stuff he wanted to do in the original Mad Max, he wanted to do that. And this was a big enough budget, although not huge, but compared to Mad Max's big enough budget that he could do a lot more.

[02:14:10:00 - 02:14:15:02]
Speaker 1
 Went for it. Emil owns his boomerang still keeps it in his office.

[02:14:15:02 - 02:14:15:18]
Speaker 4
 Very good.

[02:14:17:00 - 02:14:25:08]
Speaker 1
 We'll probably address this again in Fury Road a little bit. But there's the rumor that supposed to be the kid, the feral kid is

[02:14:26:10 - 02:14:29:04]
Speaker 1
 Tom Hardy. Right. He's playing the feral kid.

[02:14:29:04 - 02:14:29:18]
Speaker 3
 Oh.

[02:14:29:18 - 02:14:34:06]
Speaker 1
 Apparently there's a four issue vertical comic series written by Miller. That's I mean,

[02:14:34:06 - 02:14:35:11]
Speaker 2
 yeah.

[02:14:35:11 - 02:14:36:14]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, that'd be very weird.

[02:14:36:14 - 02:14:56:19]
Speaker 2
 I would think that the narration at the end of this with him saying he becomes the chief of the Northern tribes. You kind of dismisses that and it really sets into motion this whole idea of these are just tales that people are telling. And so he can have his car, even though his car was destroyed, you know, and stuff like that.

[02:14:56:19 - 02:15:08:10]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, exactly. This starts a sort of almost like verbal tradition going on in the movies of like storytelling and, you know, what's the truth? Like things get shifted.

[02:15:08:10 - 02:15:08:21]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[02:15:08:21 - 02:15:10:03]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. We'll see that.

[02:15:10:03 - 02:15:21:12]
Speaker 1
 So that is the Road Warrior. The. Yeah. I'm sure many people still consider it the best one in the series. I kind of think maybe Fury Road might be my favorite now. But this is definitely.

[02:15:21:12 - 02:15:29:02]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Top of this. This was I mean, it was an absolute pleasure to watch it. Yes. I had a really good time with it. I got really excited when I saw that the

[02:15:30:04 - 02:15:32:05]
Speaker 2
 the score was by Brian May.

[02:15:32:05 - 02:15:32:15]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[02:15:32:15 - 02:15:35:18]
Speaker 2
 And so then I look it up and it's not Brian May from Queen.

[02:15:35:18 - 02:15:41:00]
Speaker 3
 I was like, man, I just assumed it was.

[02:15:41:00 - 02:16:01:21]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, me too. Oh, and then I just I was just looking at this. I was like, this movie really defined post-apocalyptic times. And so many movies tried to get this feel again and just never could do it. And even even I mean, I think the next one that that does it is Beyond Thunderdome.

[02:16:01:21 - 02:16:02:08]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[02:16:02:08 - 02:16:04:21]
Speaker 2
 And they had a nice big budget to do it.

[02:16:04:21 - 02:16:13:11]
Speaker 3
 But yeah, he really set into motion all of these trends. Like it's such a unique, interesting, like worldview. Yeah.

[02:16:13:11 - 02:16:46:01]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. It's kind of like Blade Runner was for Cyberpunk stuff. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot. I think some of it is Australia. Sure. Australia is such a unique nothing area that you can already wasteland. Yeah. But yeah, there's so many of them that were brought out after this. You know, Joe DiMotto and all those Italian guys get a croplode of them. Yeah. And most of them are pretty bad. Perfect. It is. It's I think it's fairly uniquely in that post-apocalyptic world.

[02:16:46:01 - 02:16:46:14]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[02:16:46:14 - 02:16:54:18]
Speaker 3
 It's a really like rough film. Like it was rougher than I remembered it being as far as just like the brutality.

[02:16:54:18 - 02:16:55:09]
Speaker 1
 Okay.

[02:16:55:09 - 02:17:00:19]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Just like the brutality of the characterization. I was like, oh God, another giant rape scene. Okay.

[02:17:00:19 - 02:17:01:07]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[02:17:02:10 - 02:17:07:10]
Speaker 1
 I guess we're going to continue this tradition. Yeah. I thought that brutality was a little less than this one.

[02:17:07:10 - 02:17:08:18]
Speaker 3
 It was less than this one.

[02:17:08:18 - 02:17:11:23]
Speaker 1
 That one scene is great.

[02:17:11:23 - 02:17:24:08]
Speaker 3
 And like all those, they randomly light one of the guys they have on the fire just for funsies. And there's just stuff happening in it. They were like, okay, shit. All right. That is true.

[02:17:25:14 - 02:17:27:22]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Yeah. So did you like the movie?

[02:17:27:22 - 02:17:50:17]
Speaker 3
 Oh, I loved it. Yeah. I actually liked it more this time than I think the first time. Like it's, I was really, really happy with, you know, what they did and it was just beautifully shot. And I was amazed how much you could see Fury Road in it. I did not realize how many elements he had for Fury Road that came all the way back to this.

[02:17:50:17 - 02:17:51:20]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, quite a lot.

[02:17:51:20 - 02:17:54:06]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Tons, tons and tons.

[02:17:54:06 - 02:17:59:11]
Speaker 2
 So let's see how many, five movies in this series. Yeah. Let's, let's rate these. First two.

[02:17:59:11 - 02:18:00:05]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[02:18:00:05 - 02:18:02:03]
Speaker 2
 I mean, what's your favorite of the first two?

[02:18:05:17 - 02:18:06:15]
Speaker 3
 But it's so hard.

[02:18:08:03 - 02:18:15:00]
Speaker 2
 Cause I thought I was going to say Mad Max before I watched this again. And I was like, no, this movie is so good.

[02:18:16:22 - 02:18:26:04]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. I think Road Warrior and then Mad Max. It's just fine. Cause I always thought Mad Max was better, but I think this just feels like the, the story moves a little bit.

[02:18:26:04 - 02:18:35:20]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. I think Mad Max might be a better, there's more of a story to it. There's, there's definitely a lot more going on. Yeah. But I think the Road Warrior.

[02:18:35:20 - 02:18:36:23]
Speaker 3
 The world is very cool.

[02:18:36:23 - 02:18:37:19]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, exactly.

[02:18:37:19 - 02:18:56:15]
Speaker 3
 I love the universe they set up in Mad Max, but this one is hard because it's like, that was like a no budget. We're just fucking making a movie and this is a low budget, but we have an audience and we know the universe we're in and we're just going to refine it. So it's really tough to compare them.

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Speaker 2
 Well, in only a couple of years gave Mel a chance to grow into a wasteland looking character instead of the kid he was in Mad Max.

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Speaker 3
 So he's so young in Mad Max.

[02:19:08:04 - 02:19:10:08]
Speaker 2
 He's way more believable in the Road Warrior.

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Speaker 3
 Oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1
 And yeah, he, he talks so much less in this. I think that helps that man with no name in comparison a lot where he just doesn't say a lot.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. It feels like a different person to an extent. I know they set up that it is the same guy, but like it feels just like a different.

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Speaker 1
 I mean, it feels like a guy who's lost his family and just gone on to live.

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Speaker 3
 And the ball or whatever it was.

[02:19:36:14 - 02:19:39:18]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. The budget was around 3 million.

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Speaker 3
 Oh, wow. Okay. And then do you know what the box office was?

[02:19:42:19 - 02:19:45:16]
Speaker 1
 Well, not as big as you might think about 24 million.

[02:19:45:16 - 02:19:47:14]
Speaker 3
 24 million worldwide. Wow.

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Speaker 1
 It was, it was one of those HBO VHS movies.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[02:19:53:15 - 02:20:00:17]
Speaker 1
 Where it caught on. Yeah. After it came, after it hit the home market.

[02:20:00:17 - 02:20:01:20]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[02:20:01:20 - 02:20:02:11]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[02:20:02:11 - 02:20:06:03]
Speaker 2
 Well, cool, man. I cannot wait to get to the next movie.

[02:20:07:16 - 02:20:15:16]
Speaker 2
 This is the part, well, I'll just say the next movie is going to be Vanessa's and it is Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome as the Max-a-thon continues.

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Speaker 2
 I hope that everybody is kind of having as much fun with this as we seem to be having.

[02:20:20:21 - 02:20:21:10]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[02:20:21:10 - 02:20:29:02]
Speaker 1
 You know, since you know what we're doing, if you want to. Go watch the movies. Right. You don't have to wait for us. Catch up and we'll get to you eventually.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah, absolutely. Exactly. This is the point then where we say, hey, everybody, thanks a lot for helping out. If you're out there and you're commenting on the YouTube videos or you're out there interacting with people on the Strange Hands Radio Talk page,

[02:20:45:03 - 02:20:53:19]
Speaker 2
 and especially if you're out there deciding that you need to send a couple of shackles our way. Boy, we really appreciate that. Yeah.

[02:20:53:19 - 02:20:54:12]
Speaker 3
 Thank you.

[02:20:54:12 - 02:21:00:20]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, it's called Value for Value. We can't tell you how much this this podcast is worth to you guys because we don't know.

[02:21:00:20 - 02:21:01:08]
Speaker 1
 That's right.

[02:21:01:08 - 02:21:09:22]
Speaker 2
 You might be a gazillionaire and this is your favorite podcast. You could throw a million dollars at us and not think twice. If it is, please impress us.

[02:21:11:18 - 02:21:21:04]
Speaker 2
 But also, if what do you feel this is worth to you is a dollar, hey, send it along. We appreciate it. Yeah, absolutely. There's another way they can contact us, Vanessa.

[02:21:21:04 - 02:21:31:03]
Speaker 3
 Yes, you can call us on the Strange Eons Radio Hotline. That phone number is 253-237-426. You can, 4266.

[02:21:32:04 - 02:21:42:07]
Speaker 3
 Oh my gosh. You can leave us a text. You can leave us a voicemail. We would love to hear from you. Leave us feedback or let us know your thinking, other movie suggestions.

[02:21:42:07 - 02:21:44:07]
Speaker 2
 Congratulations, Vanessa, on a

[02:21:45:08 - 02:21:48:02]
Speaker 2
 new addition to the family.

[02:21:48:02 - 02:21:59:03]
Speaker 3
 It wouldn't be the first time that we got a very kind voicemail regarding my future offspring. So yes, or don't. That's okay too. It's all right. But, you know.

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Speaker 2
 Don't make it weird.

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Speaker 4
 Yeah, don't be creepy and weird.

[02:22:04:14 - 02:22:07:01]
Speaker 1
 Oh, you cannot join her in the delivery room.

[02:22:08:03 - 02:22:09:12]
Speaker 1
 I'm just going to say that right now.

[02:22:09:12 - 02:22:12:04]
Speaker 3
 If you do, I will not pay any attention to you.

[02:22:13:06 - 02:22:14:07]
Speaker 3
 It's going to be great.

[02:22:14:07 - 02:22:16:01]
Speaker 1
 I need to kill somebody. That guy.

[02:22:18:10 - 02:22:26:08]
Speaker 2
 All right, gang. How about we take off and we will get back together right here in two weeks. And we are talking about Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.

[02:22:26:08 - 02:22:27:12]
Speaker 1
 Sounds good.

[02:22:27:12 - 02:22:28:10]
Speaker 2
 See you next time.

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Speaker 2
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Speaker 3
 Probably an hour too long?