Hello film fans welcome to the film versus film podcast. My name is Martin Harries your host and I'm joined by the filmic Cyclopedia man, bow Aztecs. We are a couple of filmmakers on occasion, but mainly Can't Stop yapping about movies. On this podcast every fortnight we pick up on topic, myself and bones pick off favourite film from that topic. And we battle it out in three categories directing acting and screenplay and we score them out of 10 to decide which film will become the greatest film of all time. According to two film gigs from Wiltshire, England, enjoy. This week on the film versus film podcast, the very first one we'll be talking about Tarantino films. My pick is Inglorious Basterds Boaz. What's your pick? My pick is Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction. Good choice. Possibly better than mine, I'm not sure. Very difficult to choose between. Tell us why you picked Pulp Fiction. In my opinion. It was one of the first Tarantino movies I'd ever seen. And it was a hell of a unique experience. It's infinitely quotable. It's very popular. It's, you know, started many careers. Like Samuel Jackson. That's where he's known for. It's a incredibly funny movie. It's incredibly dark. It has great action has good twists and a great plot direction. I don't know. Can I? Can you get much higher? Maybe nine or 10 I think it's phenomenally well directed. Just that one gets the best performances out of any actor. Just the scenes. Just amazing. The lighting, the camera work, he has like great use of close ups. Oh yeah. I remember in the heroin scene. You know, Maya play by MFM. And she has a drug heroin overdose and Vincent rushes back to what's his name? Lance this place? Oh, yeah. And first of all, he crashes into his garage, he says. And then he brings her in and just before they they put them massive needle Yeah, needles like half a foot long. Vincent's got a stab into into a jest. But before they do, they kind of do these very you know, these close up shots or before he stabs or the chest with the adrenaline the needle. It's very much like a spaghetti western. I know Tarantino loves the spaghetti West. And so it's no surprise later on in his career that he's made westerns. But I just found that scene just so intense until you know. Yeah, no stamps. Yeah. And then the when she quickly jumps up and screams and everything. Yeah, it's a it's a hell of a scene. It's an interesting bit as well. There's like a single shot on birch when we're introduced to Marcellus Wallace, but it's just all on birch in a single he says nothing. It's all masala swatches Wallace. Just talking. But you don't see his face. Just the back of his head. Yeah. Which I found quite interesting. Yeah, I thought that was good. And also, do you remember the cut on the back of his head as a plaster? Oh, yeah. Apparently just cut himself shaving. But there are many theories actually into the on the back of his head. There was this one theory that it was like, it's where his soul it has escaped his body. I've read some really weird theories about Pulp Fiction. It's so many grape. It's Oh, Jules and the hell yeah. Yeah. I like because when you're first introduced to them, they just seem like some really cool friendly guys. We're just talking to each other about Europe and a bunch of other things. And stories about Marcellus Wallace and they just seem really chill and friendly. What's his face? John Travolta. Every time he goes to the bathroom, something crazy happens. Yeah, somebody pointed this out. I thought. So when he goes to the bathroom in her house, yeah. He goes to the toilet to like, prep himself up and stuff. And she mix his heroin. Yeah. She ODS so that's number one goes to the bathroom and she IDs. Number two, if you're looking at how the film is laid out, is with birch and he goes to the toilet and butchers apart. artment leaves his Huzi on the table, and Bush shoots him and he dies. And then you know, if dying wasn't enough, he does it again. And in, you know the continuation of his story with Samuel Jackson with jewels, he goes to the bathroom again and I get held up by Tim Roth and his wife. But have you noticed that every time he goes to the toilet shit happens, like literally and figuratively? Yeah, just don't go to the bathroom. I really liked the scene where he dies as well, because it came as a hell of a surprise. Yeah, cuz. Oh, yeah. Especially because he's back. Ah, it's not in this. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Especially because he's like the hero in two segments. He's like one of the good guys in two segments. And then you've got this other guy who's not difficult to work out either. No, no, no, no, it's yeah, it's anything. It's not terribly important. Even to be honest. It's very much hangout film with these gangsters. Yeah. No, just a bit chopped up in the wrong order. Yeah. So what would you give a directing of give directing an eight? Like, yeah, cool. I think I would probably give it nine. The only disappointing thing I would say is that the second scene, actually with Vince and Jules is so strong. Between those two, that you immediately want to you want more of them. You want more? You want to see Jaws again. Especially? Yeah, but you don't you literally don't see him again for like a good hour. Yeah. Into the film. Yeah. I think literally, you could you could make like a spin off for a sequel just with jewels, and I think I'd be happy with that. So screenplay. I think it's probably one of Tarantino's best work. Yeah. In terms of with his writing hat on. It's so cool. So quotable. You know, I just found myself out of the film to sing see why the game is a what a gay. Yeah, what's the best thing? That's the best thing in the universe? I have that memorised by Can you do some? I could do? I could do some. Yeah. Okay. Just get me in the right mood. You knew this was coming before. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I don't know. I read. And it's like, what was it? What does Marcellus Wallace looked like? Yesterday. Guess what? You know? What was it? Where are you? From? What what a no country I ever heard they speak English in What? What? English motherfucker. Do you speak it? Then describe what Marcellus Wallace looks like what? Say what again? Say one more time motherfucker. I dare you. I double dare you motherfucker say one more time. Oh, man now forgotten. But yeah, no pressure. Yeah, it's just the pressure. But yeah, it's amazing. Amazing thing. Yeah. Incredible. I'm not sure Samuel Jackson has been better. Really? Oh, yeah. I think in any film really direct? I think he's great. And Django and chain. It's just a very different character. Well, I think I think that kind of because, you know, in a lot of Samuel Jackson films after that film, I feel like they just get into play jewels. Do you know what I mean? It's like, just just try and be jewels. I don't think he's ever kind of captured. I think in another jewels in Vincent scene when the when you actually finally catch up with them again, near the end, when they're in the car. They pick up Marvin, after they shoot the other guy. Vinson just turns around to just have a just a chat with Marvin, he just accidentally shoots him in the head. It's just like, yeah, in any other film. That would be a horrible moment. But oh, sonny, it's just really fun. It's really funny. And then what's kind of cool with it is that like you never I've never ever seen something like that in a film before. But it's kind of amazing as well, because it was really funny, even though it's really dark. And then you'd think it would just kind of drop but no becomes like another main plot point of there's, you know, the end of the section. You know, it's getting worse. This called Mr. Wolf to help them tidy it up. He's now famous for his. Yeah. When Winston wolf comes in, all I could think of was Dart line. I'm like, oh, no, it's the Darling guys. Rowing. Yeah, they've kind of one day I really did enjoy actually in the bush and Marcellus Wallace part where they get captured by these rednecks. This gun store, Bush escapes, and he's just about to go out the door. But then he just he turns around and saves Marcellus Wallace. Oh, yeah. I love the scene of how he picks the weapons as well. They just get progressively more ridiculous. I love pigs. It picks up he picks a hammer first. And then he's like, and then he sees he looks up and you think What's he looking at? Baseball bat. Oh, that's good. Then he looks up again you go, What's he looking at now picks a chainsaw. But it's like looks I forget, you know, samurai sword. What I loved about that scene is the fact that butcher Marsalis Wallace. You know, they're both enemies, but they're coming together as two enemies to defeat a bigger enemy. I just love that in films. And that happens, there's just their fight in the street was crazy. That was amazing. I think, like, it's got some of the most epic Talentino speeches or movie speeches. There's just so much of it. And as I said, it's almost like a season of a series crammed into a movie, but it still feels like it's not been crammed. You know, there's enough time for like jokes and serious stuff and epic speeches and, and even just like Tarantino doing is just normal conversation. You know, I think that he does that phenomenally. Just people having regular conversation. Yeah. So 10 for Screenplay by Yeah, probably a 10 for the script. And the script is, I think I would go nine, just because, as I said, after you see that incredible scene with Jackson and Travolta, that first one your you just want to see Jackson again as jewels, but you have to wait a long time to get there. So that's just just one point off of that, I would say. Okay, so acting, I think all the performances are great. Even, you know, some actors don't have too much to do timber off. You know, he's in the opening scene with Amanda Plummer as honey bunny, probably the best named character. But I mean, this is, as we said, you know, this is the Jackson and draw show. For me. Nothing really beats those two performances especially and he works really well with Uma Thurman. I think humour Therma in this is great as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, she does a tremendous job. I think she does a tremendous job. She might be actually, I think gives the best performance in the film. I really, yeah, I think personally, I think we're all I think I never like it in Tarantino movie. And this is also no exception where he kind of shows up in the film. I kind of wish he would stop showing up in his own movies. You know, the one in Django was not the best. The worst that was that was he cannot do an Australian accent for shit. But I always find out shortly because I have no idea especially there in the deep south. But one thing I don't understand is also like I do kind of find it funny contrast where Jules is bigging up his friend to to Vince and like, you know, I don't Don't you know, mess up his house and all this and you got to be cooled and all this stuff and is being so submissive with him when Jules is really mouthy and very aggressive to everybody else. I mean, he killed a man. And but then when the guy comes on screen, it's Tarantino that just to me, just like cracks me up. I think that's quite funny. But yeah, but yeah, but he doesn't come off as like, as hard as Yeah, he's quite a soft man. Really? Yeah, I think ving Reigns is great as well. Again, not in it that much. But you know, the bit where he's just, you know, taken out the hillbilly guys and he says and put shows Jim, you came in, and he's like, No, I'm not okay. I'm pretty far from fucking Oh, yeah, you guys want now now? I'm gonna come here with a pair of pliers. You hear me man? We're gonna get mediaeval on your way. I just I love his lines as well. I think they're really cool. Do you remember the bit where he's one of these men is asking like where Bruce Willis it you know that he wants to find Bruce Willis's character. And he goes I want I want everybody on it. He goes if he goes to Indochina I'd known a bowl of rice and stuff like that. It's like what the hell it's Yeah, really? We having rooms is great. I must have been the performance that scored in Mission Impossible. Yeah, I think acting wise for the whole cast. I would probably give probably a solid eight out and yeah, yeah, maybe maybe an eight. I think with some cast members might be even a seven. But I think by and large, like yeah, maybe maybe an eight because just the script is so good. That literally however they say it's just you know, it's just golden. Yeah. So I think overall score for Pulp Fiction is 52 points, which is bloody good. Right My film then is in glorious bastards or bastards as there isn't he in the spelling? I chose this one because it's a very interesting one from Tarantino. It's his first historical one I think is incredibly well written incredible performances. And probably it has the best character Tarantino has ever written. I think he would say himself Yeah. Christopher Watts yeah yourself as Colonel lander. Yeah, he is he's basically like Nazi Sherlock. Yes. Because Tarantino I think said himself in one of the press conferences, but you know for selling the film is that he was fully prepared not to make this film if he could not find the right actor for for this character, which I find quite extraordinary really, really, because one thing we should mention about Tarantino, his, his writing method is, is quite different to a lot of writers I would say because he, he basically writes as a novelist. He originally wrote Inglorious Basterds as a book, you know, and there Yeah, and then just whittles it down to a screenplay. Because I know originally he wanted I think he wanted to do as a TV show is first of all, or like a six part miniseries. You know, I would love to see that. Yeah, so let's start off with acting them with Inglorious Basterds, only one place to start with acting. And that's Christoph. Waltz's parents as Colonel Hans Landa in this film, who is quite extraordinary. I mean, the opening scene where he's talking to the French farmer, it's just a great play on language, really curious thinking, why is he changed from French to English? And then you have a shot where we're looking through the floorboards at, you know, these pair of eyes, and he's showering Jews under the floorboards. And you look, that's why he changed. He's not showing his acting talents. It's really it's really clever as well, because he comes across as very friendly and really sort of eccentric. And yeah, and yeah, and and he's definitely one of these actors were just no one like him. I don't think in cinema right now. They're in TV for that matter. And there's no surprise he immediately basically wrote another character for him in his next film, you know, Django has whose own shells the polar opposite of yeah, when he switches back to French. He's like, Oh, we you follow my Masquerade? Now, you know, and he goes into this fluent French. Oh, yeah. Well, I like this bit just before that, because he's setting up you know, like, his speech about, like, Jews and rats. Yeah, that's just amazing. Let's like, you know, you don't know why you like it don't like them. You just, you know, you just don't like rats. And he was talking about, like, Jews are like rats. And but he doesn't mean it as an insult. He means like, they'll hide anywhere. Because when they have no digney He says, like, a German is like a hawk, you know, like, the propaganda, but he just looks at like, honourable places to hide, you know? And he says, like, I can think like a Jew, you know? And then it's just where he does that switch of like, you're hiding enemies of the state like that. And it's like, he's gone from this friendly hiding enemies or the state of your, you know, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's amazing. Like that made my heart like, just like hit the deck. That was such a good scene, because you think he's just being friendly and just like a fanatical, Nazi or whatever. And then when he can't he set himself up for this, like, they're under the floorboards. And it's just like, Oh my God. Yeah, there's another great bit I love which is hilarious from Lander is when they're in the premiere. He's talking to Bridget Vaughn hammer smell. And he's asking about how she broke. Well, how he injured her legs. She said, I did mountain climbing. And he absolutely laughs his head off, literally walks, walks up a few phases and laughs and said, Oh, yeah, I'm kind of wondering did he actually laugh like that seemed so genuine. That seemed so like such a genuine moment. And who else is great in this film? I think Brad Pitt's great very light over America. I just love the whole scene where you owe me 100 Nazis. Yeah, that's really. That's right. It's a great introduction to the character. Phenomenal speech, the scene, you know, where they're trying to masquerade in the theatre as like Italians. I love I love that. She's like a lamb You're laughing, but I love ways like she's like just pretend to be Italians. Germans don't know what the hell an Italian sounds like. And he speaks fluent Italian. Yeah. That's amazing. I love that. So, so funny. Yeah, you could tell he screwed with him. The internet you know, you know, Landon knows as soon as you walk in soon as they see him yeah, they're the Americans. Yeah. But yeah it's just incredible and an amazing twist where he like sides with them for protection by the US government. I think that was just kind of his downfall because obviously he gets the swastika cut off. Yeah, exactly. To his forehead right at the end. Yeah. I think his own charm and arrogance was his own downfall with that, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, they'll they'll, they'll agree to this exactly. The lawn or their or their lawn or their word, but it's hilarious because he's like the loner, that word, the American and all this, but he hasn't honoured a single thing he set out to do or was meant to do. Actually, one thing I rewatched Inglorious Basterds and I think even very early on in the film, there are hints that Hans Landa has thought about this plan about defecting to the Americans really early on in the film. Yeah. Where did you see? So there are a few kind of weird ones like so you know, it was that Jewish woman's theatre place? You know, Shoshana. Yeah, she was wanting to get revenge and she's burnt, then she locks the thing down and burns up. And when he's having dinner with her, it's one of those things because, like, he got a good look of her as a child and didn't chew. And then when he's doing a background check, there's just this really tense scene where he's talking. She's talking to the, you know, being by the guy that killed her family. And then he just looks at restaurants. Yeah. And the restaurant, then eating the studio. The studio. Yeah. Wait for the claim. Yeah. And then he just looks at her like really intensely. Yeah. And then like, I Oh, yeah, I can't. I think he was like, I know for definite that she is the woman I've been searching for. She is a Jew. And if they watch this film in this cinema, they're probably all going to die in it. I think there's I think he probably actually already had that plan very, very early on. I think Michael Fassbender is great as well. Yes, Lieutenant Archie Hickox. Yeah, I think there are some other really cool I think the villains in this like, a really highly Gestapo. Officer. Should we talk about a bit about the that basement scene? Oh, yeah, that was really good with the Mexican. Probably my favourite scene in the film. Just the whole way that structured? tenses. Hell yeah. Fassbender in the Gestapo officer. Fantastic. You know that the whole way that's constructed with the fact that Bridget Vaughn hammers mark is talking to the other Germans, you know, the private officers in the guest who game then, you know, she goes off to the other table, with Fassbender and Stiglitz. And the guys. Oh, yeah. They come over to the table. Hell, yeah. That's yeah. He has a new son. Yeah. And he keeps coming over and then fast man is like, no, go away. We're trying to have a conversation how we're old friends. Yeah. But he says it in German, but he's German is a bit crap. Yeah. And then the Gestapo officers like, I too, find this accent funny. Yeah. Yeah. But one I'd love actually, because they're, they're almost immediately set off as like arch enemies, you basically have an arc of these two arch enemies just meeting and within five minutes, they've killed each other. But it's like an, you know, an increase of tension, you could see that he doesn't trust them. And they're almost like sparring. And I thought that was brilliant. Especially when every kind of question he always has an answer for. So he's like, Well, where's your accent for from? And he goes, Do you know that? What was it that German Olympics film? Where they shot high in the mountains and something? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then you think he would go? No, I don't. And then he'd say, Yeah, well, that's where I'm from. Yeah, yeah, of course. I got away with it at that point. I don't think he could. I think the guy was really smart. Because apparently, um, I don't remember seeing this myself. But he's reading a book. And the book is about a is about oh, yeah, it's about Yeah, it's about German film. So I think because he obviously, Michael Fassbender is set up as this guy that knows everything about German cinema. And I think the other guy is meant to be like, almost his his opposite. You know, his his absolute nemesis. He knows everything about German cinema. And it becomes one of these things. And I think almost as soon as they met, I do think he knew he was brilliant. Yeah, and I reckon most of it is just him. slyly digging at him. You know that he actually doesn't know as much as he think, you know? Yeah, Tarantino loves characters playing with each other. Yeah, in a literary sense. Also, I love the German 308 shirt. That was good. I think there are some great subtle performances actually from Melanie Laurent. He plays Emmanuelle, or Shauna, you know, her interaction with Daniel brawl, is he plays Frederick Zola it's quite interesting as well. She plays it with brawl, like, he's, you know, just an irritating child in a noisy uniform. Yeah, leave me alone. As you can tell, he's kind of quiet. I don't know. Like everybody thinks he's a well they they have the picture. He's a hero cuz he's a war hero. And you can tell like he's almost pathetically madly in love with there it's like really kind of sad. One thing I find like hilarious about the film is like Hitler. The guy who plays 99 It's quite it's pretty funny. It's pretty funny. Yeah, I think what was the only thing I'd say I wish they got the dude from Have you seen all those Hitler Hitler reacts to videos from downfall they should a guy or a guy gotta play Hitler like Martin. And if you think about it, there's like hundreds of plans to credit score effects as well. Yeah, but there's hundreds of plans to kill Hitler the old kind of collide I just think that's meant Yeah, it's definitely was just a Tarantino being like, there is no way Hitler is getting out of this. You know, like the cinema is gonna go up in flames. What was it? Hans landers put a bomb in his thing in his thing, and the guys have come in there to shoot him. It's like this is absolutely so acting. What would your score be? There's a lot of good actors. I think like the guy that plays hands land that does make everybody else look at little worse because he's just so good. Like he's he's amazing. I would give him a 10 out of 10 Christoph Waltz is just so good when you won an Oscar for oh man he's so good in that film Yeah, no I'd give I'd give the the acting I might actually give the acting higher than in Pulp Fiction. I think it's yeah, probably a nine they've all got varying great performances I'm I'm gonna go nine nine as well. So moving on to directing then Tarantino has this is great thing he does when he cuts away to other scenes like just little short ones where I think there's a talk about I think lambda when he goes into the basement, they investigate you know what's happened and they find Stiglitz there and think oh, he was part of the Ambridge squad and then they cut away to the three of them Donnie Stiglitz and one of the Austrian born Jews and like gunning down this Jeep of Nancy just here and sees a massive machine gun fire. I'll Stiglitz was cool. Yeah, they do a lot with Stiglitz actually. In that type of yeah, a lot of it isn't away. Yeah. Liam give him a cool title card when they talk about him. And then Samuel Jackson is has a voice over talking about what he's about. And he's basically just killing What's crazy is he's a German soldier. So he's just like, starts killing the Jewish this one. Yeah. Is it? Yeah, was that actually said in the film? I think so. I don't remember that. story just playing and also hilarious in the restaurant scene, when Gables is introduced, and then you suddenly just cut him in his interpreter shagging? Oh, yeah, that was a bit did not expect that. Yeah, that was a bit much. That was Yeah, one thing I noticed about the plot of that film is like they kill all the top Nazis except for like, Himmler. I know you get it. You're probably not into Nazi history. He's in there. It's fine. No, no, literally all the top Nazis except for Yeah. which I just think is a very peculiar, or vice versa. Yeah, it's a very peculiar one for Talentino to leave off. Maybe there could be a sequel killing him. He got away. A sequel in the butcher Hitler. Yeah. Awards. Yeah, well, you gotta find him or whatever. Maybe Himmler takes control of Germany. War carries on who knows? And also cinematography in this film. It's gorgeous. Part of the reason why I chose this film I think I just don't think you would have the same effect in this film, as well, if it wasn't shot on film on 30, not 35 millimetre celluloid, you know, you know, Tarantino has always shot on shot stuff on film, I just don't think it would work digitally. I know there's a lot of advances in digital now. But there's just something about film, shooting on film that just looks magical. I think especially in period stuff like this. Yeah, some of the shots are just stunning. You know, I think there's a little montage scene of Emmanuelle preparing, you know, putting a lipstick on putting the veil down her face, you know, there's a great shot of her sitting, isn't leaning against the incline or the window is now where she's listening to? Yeah, bit of David. David Bowie. Yeah, gorgeously shot. That stuff. Yeah. The cinematographer was Robert Richardson. I think it's done most of his films. I know he's done the last couple. Yeah, gorgeous, gorgeous stuff. Do you ever get tired of that? Like there are parts of the film like with Hans lander, where it feels like a detective drama. But there's parts of the film I don't know if you ever got that feeling? Especially with the bastards and stuff where it feels like a Western? Oh, yeah. I mean, he uses he's very much uses western style. Spaghetti Western music. Yeah, it's because I always felt like I got that like, funny vibe. The first couple of times I watched it of like, them seeming like it's a Western. almost felt like it was a detective film a bit of a comedy and, and yeah, it's got everything. I do feel like Tino in a World War Two. I do feel like with Tarantino, he has always been itching to make us forget your western even before he did his first one in in Django Unchained in 2013. I guess he just didn't have the idea. I don't know. But certainly stylistically. It looks that way through for most of them, especially this one. So directing. What would your score be Mr. Directing? Yeah, I put it pretty damn high. What did I give Pulp Fiction? A, I think a camera. Yeah, I might give this an EIGHT as well. And I think for me, it's possibly better directed than Pulp Fiction. Not by a long way. But I think it's just I think it's shot beautifully. Yeah. I think I'd also like to give it a nine. Yeah, I would say like, technically it's also a a, you know, a better film, say screenplay. I would say again, we've probably Pulp Fiction. The strongest aspect of the film is the screenplay. Oh, one pie really? Is the bingo joke. At the end? Oh, yeah. That's some bingo. Is that how you said? Like, no, just say bingo. However, that was in the train. Yeah. That was great. That was great. You know, landers. And Crystal Falls is fantastic in that in that scene. And of course, only Tarantino would put the line right at the end after he carves a swastika into you know, something, you'd have it. I think this might be my masterpiece. Black Yeah, I don't think anyone else would write for the end of their film. Yeah. It is a masterpiece. Another bit i i loved as well. We've talked a bit about the basement scene with Fassbender and the Gestapo officer. But I just love that bit where it says Name fast. Yeah, Michael Fassbender knows that. The game's up and he switches back to English and he's just like, well, this is it all. Bye. I hope you don't mind going out speaking the kings. Yeah, that was brilliant. Yeah, but then always that fucking Gestapo guys always gonna one up him and he knows English as well. Again, I think that perfect nemesis. Yeah, and that shoot out as well. It's pretty insane. Yeah, that was nuts. Really quick, but just a lot of fast getting loaded. Hitler being hilarious. We've talked about hilarious jokes. And then also, I love the fact that Tarantino committed to have the actors speak the appropriate language. Did not if the Germans would you Always making jokes. Exactly. And if you say I'm speaking French, and vice because there are so many war films where the Germans are speaking English and the French speaking English in every English and it's just like, Well, we really be talking about that. And it's it's just refreshing to see a proper warfare on where the actors are speaking the appropriate language. Yeah, I think which I think, you know, is a risk, I think, I think when the producers hear from Tarantino, any saying, yeah, the actors are going to be speaking the actual language and it's all going to be in subtitles. Surely there must have been conversations like, Oh, really sure about that. Yeah, I don't think. But I think certainly things are changing. I mean, this is how what does this film like 1211 years old now? I think certainly audiences are more inclined to watch films that are very heavily subtitled now. I mean, was it parasite one, Bess? Oh, yeah. That's entirely was South Korea. Which I think is great. So yeah, I think screenplay. I think I'd give it another 910 for me. Yeah, I think I might be inclined to do the same. Nine out of 10 for Yeah. Cool. So the overall score for this one is 53. Did that just win? So yeah, that wins by one point from both victron. Between us in glorious passes wins this one by one psaltery point. That's it for this week's pod. 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