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#170 The Winged Beings Of Light with Jade D'Cruz Part II

April 20, 2024 Johnny Burke/ Jade D'Cruz Episode 170
#170 The Winged Beings Of Light with Jade D'Cruz Part II
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#170 The Winged Beings Of Light with Jade D'Cruz Part II
Apr 20, 2024 Episode 170
Johnny Burke/ Jade D'Cruz

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Our guest in episode 170 is Jade D’Cruz, she is  an intuitive healer, channel ,akashic records reader and  author.Her work also includes  Djed meditation which teaches how to shift the structure of your reality. In this episode, We will talk about some of the issues brought forth by The Winged Beings of Light, a collective of Golden Master Frequencies. What we observed:


  • The 3 D “matrix” that we apparently live in
  •  An Interpretation of Christ Consciousness
  • How some religious belief systems may be viewed as a tool for enslavement
  • A theory of government mind control involving ETs
  • We are not in our own power yet to be able to understand how AI is evolving or going to evolve
  • Why we are hearing about starseeds and lightworkers
  • Who the winged beings of light are , and what they are here



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Our guest in episode 170 is Jade D’Cruz, she is  an intuitive healer, channel ,akashic records reader and  author.Her work also includes  Djed meditation which teaches how to shift the structure of your reality. In this episode, We will talk about some of the issues brought forth by The Winged Beings of Light, a collective of Golden Master Frequencies. What we observed:


  • The 3 D “matrix” that we apparently live in
  •  An Interpretation of Christ Consciousness
  • How some religious belief systems may be viewed as a tool for enslavement
  • A theory of government mind control involving ETs
  • We are not in our own power yet to be able to understand how AI is evolving or going to evolve
  • Why we are hearing about starseeds and lightworkers
  • Who the winged beings of light are , and what they are here



For more info: www.londonthetahealers.co.uk

@hackneyspirit



Support the Show.



Music by
Black Box Traders

 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I'm Johnny Burke, and today's guest is Jade de Cruz. She is an intuitive healer, channel, Akashic Records reader, and author. Her work also includes Djed meditation, which teaches us how to shift the structure of our reality. In this episode, we'll talk about some of the issues brought forth by the winged beings of light, also known as a collective of golden master frequencies. Jade, welcome back to the show. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Hi Johnny. Thanks for having me back again. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: It's good to have you, and as part two of the series on the winged beings of light, we will definitely investigate some of the issues that do come up. So, speaking of which, in the book Divine Love, we are apparently warned about losing connection with nature and the essence of our humanity. Tell us a little bit more about that. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yeah, I think it comes from the fact that humanity is so misaligned with itself and its path, its direction. The majority of humans are confused with themselves. So, therefore, how can we understand nature? We are messing around with nature. We are forgetting that it all matters, it's all organic life. It's all a manifestation of source. And yet we are not treating it with any respect or equality. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Are we losing then our organic connection with Nature and failing to recognize that everything is alive, the earth is alive, Mother Earth, Gaia, even inanimate objects like rocks and trees and everything else? That has a lot to do with it then. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yeah, completely. We've been so misaligned with information. And where are we going within ourselves that, we are forgetting that nature is a part of us and we're a part of it. We treat it as a separate entity, as a separate form, and we treat it with so much superiority. Nature doesn't talk, as in sound speaking, like we do. We forget that it still does express itself. It still does it in its own way, and we've forgotten how to read and recognize it. We, therefore, think it's not important, and we are losing respect for nature because we've lost that essence with ourselves. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: It sounds like we've also forgotten that separation from anything is an illusion. It's a thing that we hear about quite a bit. In your first episode, we talked a bit about certain forces, star races perhaps, that are interfering with our nature, and I'm assuming they're contributing to this separation or this illusion of separation. Is that true? 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yes, because the minute another entity, another life form, feels that it has control over it, it's therefore already separating itself from the source. In doing that, it's dividing us and conquering us or aiming to conquer humanity, which is, doing quite a good job so far. It's a tool of control. And it comes out of misalignment again. For some reason, these entities have had a history of doing that all over the galaxy, and now they're doing it on Earth. It's a split from source asserting its power in a sense that's expansion. We are all here to expand and evolve. However we can expand and also find equality and love within that.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Whenever someone brings up this type of a topic, I can't help but think there's some voice, there's some opinion out there that's saying, wait, they might be the bad guys, but as part of divinity or the divine world, it's necessary as darkness to light and so forth. These entities, I don't know if anyone really knows who they are, but they don't have our best interest in mind. Is it necessary that they're there so we can overcome the obstacle, or is that not necessarily true? 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: I think it's not necessarily true because we can expand in joy and in love, and we can evolve. We are here to follow our joy. We, are here to experience good life 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Okay. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Obviously different souls are choosing their different paths, but in the long term or in the essence expansion doesn't mean that we have to go through challenges. And I know people talk about karma, and I hear many different teachers talk about the fact we are here, we go through certain challenges in order to grow, but we can also grow experiencing really good things, good times. 
 
 

 Johnny Burke: Okay, so challenges. They're necessary sometimes, but not a hundred percent of the time.  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: No and I think what's happened is that humanity hasn't reached that point yet. We are so far behind in our learning curve. I mean, we've deliberately been dumbed down and all of that, but we are still at the point where we think we need war to move forward. We think we need chaos on one level. Yep, there's that. But the next level of the program, let's say, is to have a better earth, a more utopian society, and grow through different challenges, better things. We haven't mastered alignment. That's the problem. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: That would explain why society, as you often describe keeps destroying itself. They feel like war is necessary, and it doesn't seem like that's going away anytime soon, even now in 2024. It seems like there is more conflict and wars and so forth. Going back to the wing beings of light, you describe them as golden master frequencies. What exactly does that mean, and did you coin that term yourself? 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Golden master frequencies; the term came through the winged beings of light. It's how they describe their essence and what they're bringing forth is joy, power, wisdom, and that kind of assertion of your light putting yourself forward and standing up for yourself, they're bringing that. So the golden master frequencies are all about finding that golden essence within you, that divinity within you, and carrying that through your human life path and spreading that power in order to change and help transition this society and this path and what's going on through, in a sense, finding your joy, getting us in alignment with ourselves to change the collective. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Okay. Alignment is coming up a lot in this type of discussion, and what we're all trying to figure out is what does that have to do with the Matrix? And what exactly is the Matrix? Not the movie,or maybe it is the movie. I'm not really sure. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: So the Matrix is just a term people use to describe a simulation that we are experiencing. We're experiencing a holographic reality. It's our life isn’t a holographic experience. And that is held into an inner simulation, which is called a matrix. So it's like a grid almost. I don't know if you've seen it; I think it's the Hunger Games, one of the last episodes of the Hunger Games where they're trying to burst the bubble at the end.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: I didn't see that one, but I know what you're talking about. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: so that's the matrix and it's held in place by a secret government or an alien extraterrestrial life form.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: which we just mentioned a few moments ago. Is that often described as a 3D matrix, or is that a completely different subject altogether? 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yeah. So the matrix is 3D, which is pretty much this reality. It's the density that we experience in our daily lives. When we say we're stuck in the matrix, we're talking about the inability to break free from brainwashing, conditioning, control, and slavery mindsets, which we've been programmed in within this system that we operate in. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: It's almost like going into a fun house with all these different mirrors; you don't really know what's your true reflection or not. Also, one of, my guests in the past and actually will be in the future, a woman named Winnefred Davis brings forth a really important theory when we talk about the 3D matrix and how as light beings we strayed from our true nature and went down to earth and then got caught in the matrix and also got caught into the karmic cycle. Is that something that you believe or you are aligned with, or is it something different? 
 
 

 Jade D'Cruz: Well, I wouldn't say we strayed into Earth. I'd say we were pretty much here all the time. But, we were imposed upon by an extraterrestrial force. We didn't stray here; the matrix is basically put on us. And it's interesting what you said about being in a place of halls and mirrors because, actually, everything we do is mirrored back to us. So it is like that: we work out our actions and behaviors based on the evidence that we see playing out in our lives. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: What I was trying to explain or understand, rather, is that as light beings. I've heard this more than once by the way. We came down to earth, very much, in the fashion of rich kids who live in Palm Beach who go to a ghetto because they think it's cool- it's an exploration. And then they get in trouble, or they get arrested or something like that. I've heard that from people who do astral projection as well. So, does that make sense? Or, you just don't agree with it 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Well, that may be true. We can never speak for every single soul in existence. So perhaps that's true for certain souls, but lightworkers are definitely here consciously, willing to come because they've come here for this time of transition. So I would say that people who are doing this kind of work or, you know, a lot of spiritual teachers trying to help humanity get on a to a good path came here willingly. Not as a holiday or straying. There are souls because I have quite a few clients who do that. They are here on a holiday,  
 
 

Johnny Burke: The way I understood it is that the lightworkers were coming to rescue those adventurers that thought they were going on holiday. Right. and again, that paradigm or whatever you want to call it, I've heard more than once, and I'm just trying to really understand, especially when someone says, where do we come from? What is the beginning? Was there even a beginning? That's probably a discussion for another day, but it's a pretty good explanation of the matrix, and it does resonate with other speakers, intuitives, and experiencers who try to explain the same thing for us common mortals. The matrix, how is that related to religion? Because you believe in your search for truth, you find that there really is no truth in religion?. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yeah, religion is made up. It's deliberate indoctrination of corruption. It comes from the controllers or the secret government or those who are enforcing this negative way over us. It's made up. I say that not because necessarily all religions teach wrong things but religion's very controlling. if you think about texts and whether it-and hope this doesn't offend anyone, whether it's the Koran or the Bible  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Don't worry about it. We're not here to not offend people. If that's the way it is, that's the way it is.  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yeah, it's written by people I've got, okay, the winged beings of light. I could now proclaim that the winged beings of light bring the word. And you could make a religion up over me that that's how it's created. A couple of people got together, influenced by their way of thinking, and brainwashed the masses, and it evolved into religions over thousands of years. Different religions. it comes from a lack of education from the masses, and not being in your own power from misalignment and everything else. So religion doesn't hold anything true that a person who's not religious doesn't have, 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Don't you think it's interesting that politicians, for example, tend to align themselves with religious figures? When you really take a step back and look at them, they're anything but spiritual. That always made me laugh, albeit with a sense of dismay and disgust, but it's still happening in 2024. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: it's a way of discarding your responsibility because if you align yourself with a religious figure who's got all this power and aura and dominance and prestige no one's going to go there to question religion. it's like saying, well, I'm along the lines of Jesus, or I align myself in Christianity. Then you're going to think immediately it's a trigger for a good person or a good thing by association.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Hopefully, that's changing. One of the objectives of this show of this podcast is to let people know that just because your pastor, or your congressman or whoever, in the political forum, aligns themself with Jesus, doesn't necessarily mean they're good people. It might be that they're good people- often, It's the opposite,  
 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Who said Jesus existed? I believe in Christ consciousness and all of that stuff, but how do we really know if Jesus did exist? We don't know. 
 
 

 Johnny Burke: Well, if Christ's consciousness exists, the people on the show,a lot of them speak about being able to talk to Jesus, and many of them recognize him and others as ascended masters .As one of my speakers described it,  when we were talking about Jesus, she said, " you know, he's not the only one that came down with a suitcase. "And I thought, okay, and these are not necessarily religious people, which I thought was very, very interesting. So, since we're talking about religion, how exactly did the enslavement, which you brought up a few moments ago, about when did that actually begin, the enslavement of humanity?  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: I think enslavement begins when religion starts way, way, way back, or any kind of power while you begin to have one family of particular dominance who tries to assert itself over the other. We can go way back to biblical stories before that. When we hear about the classic story of two brothers, in whichever culture we hear about, there's always one who's jealous of the other. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Cane or Abel?  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Right from that moment, there is a separation, and we're going back to that word again. There is a misalignment within yourself that you are better, you are less, and one's worth more, and that immediately is a form of slavery and control. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Slavery and control. Now, I'm trying to connect the dots here. Slavery of humanity. And then we go back to the star races that you mentioned earlier, trying to control us and make us at least temporarily forget our divinity. Are the religious figures just pawns for these entities to kind of push our buttons? Do you believe that?  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yeah,  
 
 

Johnny Burke: All right. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yeah. I believe that every single religion that's powerful in our day is manmade. And when you go to the root of it, you realize it all started with a couple of people who believed a certain thing influenced by their own beliefs. We don't know how those beliefs came in or whether they were right or wrong, but they asserted themselves as proclaiming a truth. Then, everyone starts to bow. It's a brainwashing system. It's the same way that a cult is created.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: You brought up that word cult. When a politician, or anyone for that matter, says, well, I heard the word of God, and we're doing the work of God, somehow, I'm imagining a team of Reptilians light years away laughing and drinking their equivalent of alcohol as they're basically controlling these people. So that's not farfetched ? 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: I don't think that's farfetched at all.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, at all. We've all heard our share of that. But for those of us who are trying to connect the dots, we're thinking, is that true? Logically, if you think about it, it does make sense because when I hear people saying I'm doing the word of God, I'm thinking, how the hell do you know that? it could be a mischievous spirit that's just doing that just for kicks and that goes for a lot of people. That goes for some intuitives who think that maybe they're talking to Jesus. We don't really know that they might be. But there's no way to tell is there? 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: There's no way. Jesus is a mass consciousness. That consciousness is not one. It's split. We all can experience our fragment of that consciousness. You may receive a message from Christ Consciousness and me. It's not necessarily the same message, but it has the same feeling or energy. 
 
 

Consciousness is not just one block. Energies or even, for example, the winged beings of light. They can call themselves certain names, but it doesn't mean that it's the exact documented thing here, they refer to it as a Jesus Christ consciousness because as humans, that's how we define it and we understand it. But it's probably much bigger than that.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: It's not tethered to any particular dogma 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Right.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: All right.  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: All religion.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Yeah, that's what I meant. Thanks for clarifying that. A lot of us try to understand things and try to weed out the conspiracy theories and disinformation, and there are too many to mention here. So you also mentioned that we're not ruled by governments, but there's one secret government, and that is liaison with these ETS that we just talked about. How did you discover this in the first place?  
 
 

 Jade D'Cruz: I've been investigating this kind of stuff for years. I've also channeled that information through, but if you do the work and look behind the major power blocks in this world, you'll find that they all come back to the same families, the same major big investment companies, banking, and everything. It all goes so deep into the government systems and institutions. And behind that come up the same names and the same families.  
 
 

And I know you are not a Conspiracist theorist, but if you follow people like, Paul Reed, Jordan, Maxwell, David Ike, there are many more authors and people who've investigated all this stuff. The information now is so out there, and there's so much of it, and it, it fits the dots. When you piece it together with current news and what the day-to-day person is experiencing, it starts to really overwhelmingly fit the dots.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Really, so it connects the dots, as it were?
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yes. Yeah. And then I receive a lot of, connect this information also through the winged beings of light  
 
 

Johnny Burke: So there are figures in government or people in high places. That sounds like they are just basically pawns that are moved about on a proverbial chessboard. 

 

Jade D'Cruz: Yes,  
 
 

Johnny Burke: It doesn't sound like they're conscious of their liaisons with certain star races, or are they? 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: I don't believe the governments are necessarily conscious of it because I think it's going behind the MI5, it's going behind all of that. It's so well hidden, and unseen. The different layers of information and confidentiality are very deep rooted. I don't think that the ordinary government is, they probably think it's a fallacy or it's a conspiracy theory. 
 
 

It's easy again to knock everything off and say, oh, if you can't see it, then it's not true. It's a load of rubbish. It's in here, and that's another way of the narrative going back to the ordinary person and, you know, just making them get on with their day-to-day because governments are meant to provide stability and truth, so you just need to get someone saying, that's a load of rubbish, or, I don't know what you're talking about, to continue the brainwashing for the masses, but in reality, the opposite's going on. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Well, yes, that's a very good point. So, speaking of the winged beings of light, how can they guide us to break out of this? 3D Fun House of mirrors, as it were, to break out of the control and fear that we talked about in the first episode?  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: So the main essence of the winged beings of light is about sorting your own life out. That means facing your own challenges, but facing them through, seeing yourself as love, first of all, having that self-compassion, and finding that defiance within you so that you can create a better life for yourself. You can put your best self forward. In doing that, you are eliminating many of the obstacles that we have in the 3D through that power that comes with knowing your truth, knowing that you are divine. If each of us does that, we empower our neighbor or the next person to do the same. 
 
 

In doing that, we are really meant to be guided by what we want to do, be guided by our passion, and be guided by our joy as opposed to needing to survive and having to do what the matrix makes us want to do: the conventional day-to-day work or the slave mentality. So that's really their main essence of their teaching. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Could it be as simple as just remembering that we are divine beings? It's a pretty tall task. I'm not saying it's going to be easy. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yeah.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: it's a logical question,  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Divine and sovereign. No one has the right or nothing has the right to exert its power over you. Really. And even in the basic day-to-day government of our worlds and countries, we don't really have a choice. We are governed by a lot of control and heavy laws. And this is incrementally getting stricter. So this is about standing up.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: It is, but reaching the point where we have sovereignty is that on the path between us being dense beings in a 3D world to being more like light beings, where at some point we don't need anyone or anything to govern us. Does that make sense?  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yeah, I personally think we don't need anyone or anything to govern us. We need communities of aligned beings. It's farfetched. I know that- sovereignty means you have the right to know. Sovereignty doesn't mean you're going to go and kill someone else. It means that you are respecting your divinity, and you're respecting the divinity of someone else, too. There are morals there; there are ethics that are naturally within us. We don't need to be told what to do. I'm a slightly anarchist on the inside. I think it's important that we can exert our voice as humans. We are not evolving as a species otherwise.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: It doesn't feel like we are evolving like we should be spiritually speaking. On the subject of technology, what do the winged beings of light think about, say Ai? Is that a danger? It seems pretty obvious that it can be. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: It is a danger because we are not in our own power yet to be able to understand how AI is evolving or going to evolve. AI is its own consciousness in itself, and we can't control it. We won't be able to control it. It's another species in a way growing and it has its own mind. If humanity doesn't have it together to sort its crap out, because, let's face it, we are a mess as a species right now, not to our own doing. Then how are we ever going to come together to, balance AI? It's a separate entity. It's not harmonious with us. It's an inorganic life form, which is not necessarily part of our human evolution...... 
 
 

Johnny Burke: It's going to be interesting to see how curbs can be put in place to at least minimize the damage or confusion or distortion that I think AI can cause or maybe already has. I think this has been a really good explanation of the Matrix and what the wing beings of light are, why they're here, why light beings are called into this space that we call Earth at this time because everybody talks about that. More light beings and more star seeds are coming to help us raise the vibration. Do you agree? 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Absolutely. I mean, we are already all here. There are many starseeds here, and everyone has their own perception of how the work's going to be done. I hear so many different teachers and speakers talking, and they're all right. They're all right because they're all bringing their own, knowledge and their own skillset through their own human experience. It's now about moving forward faster and having the courage to speak up and stand out much more. This is the next, path.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: So the next path, does that have something to do with Ascension? Again, moving out of the 3D House of Mirrors into more of a 5-D experience?
 
 

 Jade D'Cruz: Well before any kind of ascension or moving, I think the next path is about in this 3D finding our power as in our lifetime here. This is a real world. It's a real reality, and we have to wake up to the game and come together as a species to face what's really going on. We are being played out in wars and all this kind of division. That's not really the problem. The problem is the secret government, this is what we have to do as a species, is to come together and find a way to sort that problem out. That's the issue really. Yeah, we can't get there yet unless we sort our own crap out 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Can we assume, though, that the winged beings of light are doing what they can to eventually defeat these forces, whoever they are, that are using certain humans in high places? Is that their main mission, or do we have to figure that out for ourselves?  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: They're definitely here to tell us what's going on. We can't figure it out for ourselves. We haven't been able to, which is why there's a lot of intervention now. I mean, different people are channeling messages and all of that. There's a lot of information there because it's not secret anymore. We've had a lot of people or lightworkers come in, dig deep and do a lot of the work for most of us.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Can we also assume that other star races are trying to help us, move forward and in a manner of speaking, possibly fight off these other star races that are trying to make us forget our divinity?  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: There are millions and thousands of different star races, which  
 
 

Johnny Burke: Millions?  
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Yeah, Yeah, which are present, in this reality and have been for hundreds and thousands of years. The question is, how much we as individuals are willing to wake up to it and take responsibility for what's going on. We have enormous potential; humanity's full of potential, and the winged beings of light talk about this all the time, We have so much potential, and we can be so much smarter than AI if we wake up to that potential and believe in it and stand in that power, and so they're here to help us find that within, in terms of the bigger story of will we overcome what's going on? I honestly don't know. I really don't know the answer to that.  
 
 

Johnny Burke: It's too big of a question, but I think you've described it in a way that a lot of us can understand. There are certain wars here on earth and in the universe, but if we assume that eventually all of us will find the path to perfection, it all has to work out at some point. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: Because the nature of life and source evolution and expansion and growth, we're always going to be heading that way. But how long is that going to take? We could be doing it much faster and get there to a better point, quicker if we all woke up and looked at what was going on. Otherwise, yeah, we could be here for another 200 million years at the same point. 


 Johnny Burke: I hope not. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: It's happened before in history. We haven't yet progressed to the next stage, and humanity hasn't progressed. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: No, it hasn't, but you think we'll eventually get there. 
 
 

Jade D'Cruz: We will eventually get there at some point in infinity, but I can't see how that's going to happen anytime soon. 
 
 

Johnny Burke: Okay. Fair enough. Jade, thanks for joining us today. Excellent information, as always. In the meantime, how can our listeners find you online? 


 Jade D'Cruz: I'm at  www.londonthetahealer.co.uk