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Oh my god.

My name is Caitlin, I'm 41 years old, a Libra, 

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and I love 

it.

You look really good in shorts. Thank you. Those are some stems.

I love my legs,  I 

love a long sleeve top, and then 

shorts. 

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You can do a quiz and find out what are your inner saboteurs. 

So what were yours?

not telling you.

Fuck off! Tell me! Tell the internet! It's me.

Oh, there's a fear you have, have you heard of Enneagram?

Yes.

So, 

you're probably an eight.

That's what I hear.

is a challenger, and your biggest fear is other people controlling you, and so you don't like being too vulnerable because you're scared people will use that against you.

I too am an eight.

Okay, that's interesting 

you say that because I will tell you that one of my, saboteur results is that I'm 

hypervigilant. I would say that it's like you're extra aware of your surroundings. 

You, maybe I look for situations that are fearful so I can 

anticipate them.

Oh my God, yes.

Yeah.

What an exhausting way to live. But I'm with

Yeah. 

After that, I'm an avoider and 

a pleaser. 

So you can take the quiz too. You can find out what your inner saboteurs are 

we'll link to it in the show notes,

as we do. Yeah. I had a facial this morning, in case you're wondering why I look like a shiny dolphin. You're glowing! I'm shiny.

That's smart, 

you did a facial after traveling, after an airplane.

your skin is superficially dehydrated. And I was like, so is my soul. But

why I'm 

Yep,

a hundred percent. Oh, it felt so good. What 

did she do? 

Did she like, scrub your 

face and? 

 There's a facial bar, I guess you would call it, similar model to a blow dry bar where you can have a monthly membership and go once a month.

 It's been a game changer for my skin, because it actually makes me pay attention to it.  So today, some Microneedling, some blue light, some rub a dub, a mask, I don't fucking know, some   a microcurrent or ultracurrent, I don't fucking know, makes my face twitch.

It's delightful. I love it.

I 

like that idea of whether it 

works or not. It's the routine of it. 

I'm thinking of buying one of those omnilux 

masks. The red masks you can 

wear 

has one. You do. Yes. 

The 

question I've been asking 

myself and the internet

Does it, is it worth it? And does it really work? And I realized. 

It's not 

about, does it work? It's what 

you do 

before and it's what you do after. It's how, before you 

put on the mask, I bet you, you wash your face. 

Yeah? And then while wearing it, I bet you lay down for 10 minutes 

and you close your eyes. And then afterwards, you 

put on a serum or a 

moisturizer.

I like to scare the shit out of my kids with it.   like to pop out around a corner.

Boo! 

it's terrifying. it's but I think whatever I pair with it is why it would be successful.

you're right. lot of this stuff is just the psychology of it, but I'm a huge believer in being high maintenance, low maintenance.

I'll pay more to not have to wear makeup. Makeup's expensive. I don't own very much. I own a black pencil eyeliner. Black mascara and I have some powders and shit that are like 13 years old that I don't use because I don't want to wear it So I pay more to take care of my skin That's we talked about laser beams before  use really nice products that aren't garbage

I

Think everybody wants you to buy stuff.

I'm just like nope. I know it works for me and Yeah

I have the same eyeshadow palette that I've had, 

It must be 10 years. I think I moved to Vancouver 

it.

Do you, how often do you wear eyeshadow? Oh, never. Okay. Yeah. But why do you hang on to it? I 

don't know.

Does it bring you joy? No. Get rid of it! Can I come over to your house and part of your makeup drawer?

purge your makeup drawer? Yes. I have so many drawers that I've kept. I don't know what, it's not even my color. I got a free sample.

Get rid of that

I know.

crowding your life.

thing with 

my fridge. I feel like I have sauces in 

there that someone 

brought over 

Every time I go back to PEI, which I still call home, which is not my home, but it's where I'm from and grew up, so I still call it home.

It's like capital H home. I, a couple summers ago, started to do this thing where I'd Like, no, no one watches my social media, but I went on and started going through my parents fridge. 

Yes.

It's so entertaining. It's like all the sauces. There's my mom buys stuff from the gas station, but there's, but it's a thing.

There's like a deli in a gas station, but it'll be like this weird mac and cheese with ham in it in a plastic container.  Do you heat it? Do you not heat it? How old is it? I don't know. There was a great meme that was like I feel homesick, so I filled my fridge with expired dressings and sauces to feel like I was at my parents, and that sounds like your fridge!

absolutely my fridge. Or when I 

go home and I open it up, my parents love to pickle things, 

make preserves.

It's 

great, but you never know 

if it's a relish 

or if it's a bad jam. 

Cause now you're like, Oh, it's like a greeny black. 



How do they know? Do they know?

They smell everything. 

They love a smell going.  

That's

The smell test.

 Actually, my mom's 

coming to town and I'm hoping she brings at least a jam.

My mom makes a jam. She's not a Martha Stork. Neither am I. But she does this jam. It's 98 percent sugar. 5 percent strawberries, 1. 5 percent water or something, I

So it's a strawberry 

jam?

It's sugar,

strawberry. sugar,

yeah. It's sugar, it's delicious. Anyway, it's like bright red, which, it can't be the color of jam. They're using

a special sugar, like 

a pectin, I'm

Oh, it's like the whitest bleached.

Powdered sugar. I love it. Your mom's 

love it. Your mom's

coming to town. 

Yeah. 

This is a good, a joyous occasion. Oh, you have a good relationship with your 

mom.

It's nice when she comes she always 

makes the effort too to, 'cause she's in 

fucking listens to this podcast. And of course I have a good

relationship with 

my mom. 

woman. Generous. 

She's 

wonderful.  

I hope my mom doesn't listen to this only because she hates it when I swear, which is a big problem for me.

Oh,

Oh, 

she, yeah. Yeah.

It doesn't mean she's going to not judge

What about your brothers? Can your brothers swear?

 They're smarter. They don't, they do it when she's not around. Yeah. It was like, we, they used to have parties, but they'd never get caught, I was stupid enough that I would get caught, so I'd always be in trouble.

Anyway, whatever. Continue about your mother. I don't want to talk about mine. It's fine. I don't

really 

anything to 

say, she's coming to 

visit.

What are you going to do?

Obviously we're going to go to Van Dusen Gardens, what else, just to walk around gardens and look at flowers with my mom.

I'll put her to work a little bit, make she's very handy in the garden and I'll be like, what's this instead? Can

Can she come over and weed my garden?

my garden? Yeah, I know where you live. 

Actually, three

weeks ago, I said on the podcast, I was like, I have to weed my

And I'll come over and do that.

Yeah, I still haven't. I need to this afternoon. 

A, can you put in a podcast? Maybe, I don't know, your weekly breakdown? 

Da!  I'll get the kids to work.

I should just make them do it. I just need to make them do it.

They're out of school now. 

I don't even want to talk about the juggle. It's first of all, it's like Hunger Games trying to get your kid in a camp.

Secondly, somebody's still going to drive them to and fro. Third, good luck finding an all day camp that doesn't cost you a kidney. 

  There is this great writer go subscribe to d e e z l i n k s dot com. It's a sub stack, it's fucking hilarious. The writer Delia, she did this series Hate Reads, and it was anonymous authors going on rants.

 

it was just genius. And I think that we could have really unique interviews with people   

we're so curious and we'll ask the dumb questions 

on 

behalf of the broader population. why 

that. I could write an essay about something that I just encountered while I was coming here to our podcast, percent that some, Jack 

off took up two parking spots in the only area  

It's probably me.

No, it wasn't. I know your car. This, I looked at it and I almost left a note. I almost left a note going, Hey, Jack off. You parked like an asshole.

I would leave a note and say, you're an 

 

You  You're a social monster. 

I

I have, I'm a little road rage y. Those who've driven with me will be like, understatement of the year. Depends on my mood. But just when you do stupid stuff. Let's make common sense more common. sorry

left lane, it's for passing.

kill someone  Casual 

No.

 people around here do not do that. I don't

get it. So I'm, I grew up on the East Coast where it's single lane things there was no option. If you're going left, it's to pass and that's it.

you better hurry.

 I have, About 30 printed pieces of paper that say the same thing. So that when people park in places they shouldn't park, I go and stick it on their windshield.

windshield. Oh my 

 we should do that and put them in your car. be like, just be like, you're an asshole. You can stick it on, just cause chaos.

Oh my God. And I would even just, it doesn't have to be name calling. It could say something like you, you live in a society. Think about other people sometimes.

don't think about other people.

This is a thing that traveling has taught me.  Sometimes I just wish I could act like  I almost envy the people who don't give a flying fuck what other people, oh my gosh, we were standing in line for the washroom at Pearson Airport with my daughter. There's a line, we're third next, there's ten people behind us, and this woman of a certain age rolls on by all of us.

A person came out of the stall and this woman of a certain age just rolls past and walks in. And I looked behind me and was like, did I? It was so bamboozled. I was so confused.

Did I miss something? Did she have a pre ordered ticket 

the

she's  

Do you yell at the old lady? Do you just let the old lady go?

And I was like, I got a kid, there's other old ladies in line we

 all 

gotta pee, man

An 

i'm thinking of the 

pee, man! Who's a

a little more

Yeah, and just because people are younger or older doesn't mean that they get a

I'm fully down for respecting our elders, but not when they're skipping the line!  don't get to skip the line! 

I'm not fully down with respecting our elders, because 

What if they were a tool 20 years ago, and now they're just older, and they look sweeter?

No, they're not. Yeah, they look sweeter and they're like I'm old

and so we go, oh, I feel badly, but then you're like what if you were

I'm an elder, nobody fucking respects me!

I

I should be respected when I'm elder, because I'm an ass.

You're not gonna be, a brand Mostly, I'm  at the entitlement.  I can't tell if they're performing it and they know they're being entitled, or if they really just think no one else matters.

 It's shocking when you're traveling to see what people are really made of around you. Let 

me tell you, it's a mess out there. being 

you are driving on the highway and listening to this I encourage you to look at your 

on the

fuckin right side of the road! Sorry.  except to pass. Right  The

fact that we have to have a sign that says that means We need more driver's tests.  

I

was driving with my husband I was like, thank God we can use the HOV lane because now there's two of us. Usually when I drive to work, it's just me. And I was passing someone and I gave him  

Oh, sassy 

Yeah. 

I, they were tailing me. I got away

from, them. I was like, fuck you, man. And Chris was like, you're getting aggressive on the highway.

And

I, I would do the same thing. I was

like, I was letting him know that I'm mad.  

this has 

aggressively,  poorly. And you're starting shit on

the highway.  in hindsight I won't do that again.

Wasn't there a movie, I feel like it was Russell Crowe trying to make a comeback, and isn't he a road rage driver? And some girl cuts him off and the whole movie is about him then like turning into a stalker in his truck? That is a movie! 

Yeah.

 on Netflix.  don't think watch it. fast paced thriller with Russell Crowe playing a psychopath.

Road rage, hell bent on revenge because he didn't get a courtesy tap. A little too close to real life if you ask me.

Yeah, what's a courtesy tap? 

  Like a dingy honk. it  beep. There's

friendly honks. Yes. I choose to hear all honks as friendly.

Or that they're saving me, they're warning me. And I go, oh, thank you so much. 

don't really honk at people. I find the honking, people are honking like outside my house, or like in my neighborhood. I'm just are you honking?

I'll give a little beep if someone's been sitting there and the light's been green for a bit.

110 

percent 

Just a little heads up!

I will I like the summer because people have their windows down. And so we'll be like, get off your phone! hate when people text and drive. And everyone it.

Yeah you're not that important. Get off your phone.

 courtesy honk, get off your phone, don't text and drive, people die, sorry.

they really

they really do, or you could kill someone.

Especially on the highway. 

No

Casual PSA.

Good morning! Okay, I have a question for you. so it's been a couple of weeks since I've seen

know, we haven't seen each other in a 

in a while There are a couple things that have happened since then. The most important, surprisingly not the presidential debate in the U.

S., actually. The Celin Dion documentary on Prime.

I am Céline. Have you seen it?

Is it's incredible.

 times. I know, Me too.

 

I cried so many times.

And you know what, one of the things that got me was that she really is Céline Dion. Like she's just a bit kooky. Yeah.

She's totally

kooky and video footage of her when she's younger and her, just her mannerisms. She's just,

Yeah,  

a performer. She's incredible. I was taken 

Oh my god, you're tearing 

Yeah. Some of it was like hard to 

What did you find hard to watch?

watching someone who was so defined by this one thing by singing.

she was describing that she's it's not her lungs. It's the muscles around her lungs that are contracting. So she can't breathe the way she could. These muscles that she uses to sing notes are like broken elastic bands.

And I just, it just devastated me.

And then she started talking about her husband and how much she loved him. I love her. I saw her in Vegas right before she stopped performing.

Oh, you lucky one.  I've seen her live and  She's just iconic. She's a  

icon. Really. And 

truly.

There's that part, it's that one song where, I've said this on the podcast before is that I like to imagine that I'm in a music video

Yes.

while walking down the street and

Womp in your shoulder.

right moving. And there's that Celine song was like, when you call on me and then it's I just get the shivers every time the song goes on.

I love it. 

 believe in love.  Those songs for sure defined romance for a generation.

The music videos were Beautiful and in the wind and they were romantic and with  



i don't remember that one what song was that

I'm just thinking of a meatloaf song.

Oh i'm

of the music video to meatloaf's 

I would do anything for love, but I 

but i

Anything for love  run back into heaven and back 

 love. Don't put this in the podcast.

Oh, it's going in.

gosh.

 ha. Okay, so you cried a lot. 

it. I thought it was  

 Yeah Y'all aren't hurting for cash.  This is a brand move.

Justin Bieber's done one, and Katy Perry's done one, and Taylor Swift. And like, all the pop stars do it. She just

did one too. 

We're

not talking about that today. don't enough time.

To unpack Jennifer Lopez's film choices. Life.

    so did Jerry Seinfeld's unfrosted

Let's not put that in the same category.  But that's also a trend where it's let's tell the story of cereal. Let's 

tell

 All the commercial goods if people

just want to   

 there's also an element of wanting to control your own narrative

For sure. No question. No

All these celebrities are putting out their own documentaries, their own biopics to control the narrative, I think.

A little bit to reclaim it at least or to make clear in the internet because there are so many sites that give speculative news now. It's all gossip stuff, right?

Celebrity culture speaking of, when's the last time you read a Newsweek article?

News, hard to tell, not on purpose.  And like 

don't think I've

bookmarked Newsweek, 

I it, this has to be for clicks, but Newsweek invented a time machine, essentially. They went back to the 1950s. They called a beloved billionaire pop star a poor role model, because at 34, Taylor Swift remains unmarried and childless.

They 

called her a poor role model because she's 34 

Mhm. 

And without kids.

Who called her that?

Newsweek. A guy named John.

Oh, yeah.  

Okay. 

John. I assure you that no man has been chastised in the media for being a bad role model for boys, for not having children at 34 and being unmarried.

Our audio engineer just pointed out, like, where's this headline for Travis, 

her  Yeah. be.

She's a brilliant songwriter. Love or hate her music. Okay? Beside the point, right? Brilliant songwriter.

Absolutely successful businesswoman. 

Mm-Hmm. . Very philanthropic. 

She encourages folks to get out and vote. She inspires little girls to fucking dream. Yep. And, honestly, men wonder why women don't want to date them anymore. It's cause they see stupid shit like 

that. They

say stupid things like, and 

I 

don't

They literally see her as a birthing vessel. They see women as a birthing vessel.

Not even Taylor Swift, but like, all of us. It's crazy. Anyway, John, shut the fuck up. 

And also, did his editor say, John, we gotta know what you're thinking 

role I don't know! I run a small media company. I don't actually know how this stuff works.

I just hire writers and we write things that I feel like are relevant, and I'm the audience because I don't make any money doing it, so who gives a shit? But also, what a take, man! So that's why I think it has to be for clicks.  There are some media publications out there who literally write they put out these personal essays.

These poor writers, the shit they say about themselves, and they embarrass themselves, and the whole internet gets up in a frenzy about it. And honestly, I think that's what Newsweek did here on purpose. It has to be.  

There's 

no way that someone actually thought this was an important piece to talk about.

But I think the fact that it's Taylor Swift 

I think people do.

I think there are people who are concerned about women being independent and having jobs. There's a large group of people who think women should stay at home and have babies.

Yes.

And we are like, Oh it's gotta be for clicks. No, they're literally just people who believe that. And it's fucking crazy because this is the world  

until the 80s that women could get a business loan.

That's correct. Credit cards. Yeah. Any

Any kind of loan on their own? Yeah. 

back when I used to do like a little interview series, an interview, really successful and busy women, and I wanted to understand how, like the makeup of their house and who does what. And every single household is different. So I think that's important to acknowledge. There is no one way. 

I run the money in my household, let's be real clear. But it's very deeply ingrained that the whole conversation around internalized misogyny is super real I have internalized misogyny.

too. Yeah,

like it's how we were raised. Yeah, so I think  that is gonna take a while

Questioning it. Confronting it because there are also some times where I go, I do like having a partner who does X, Y, or Z for me.

Yeah, 

that's 

But I don't want, I don't want to depend on him in any kind of way. And I also think there are, there are things that I do in our household. I don't do the money in our household.

I do my money. our dishwasher broke. Guess who's been washing the dishes? Me, but I also,

Who's in charge of getting the repairman?

me.

. This is how we learn and try something new and it's not about going home and saying, Oh Sally and Johnny do this, so I think we should do it like this. It's idea generation. Like it's, this is, I think that's why we read.

We're curious. We converse and have friendships and we learn about what other people do. It's not to say what's normal or not. It's to figure out solutions for ourselves.

What's your take on discussing income, salaries? With friends.

 We've been told It's uncouth or it's tacky.

But I also think maybe that was

a way to

A way to keep it quiet. yeah.

I'm generally positive about it

I have a mixed view on this because I have had people Who wanted to know and I've told them and then they couldn't get out of their own head About how I made more and this was not a person I worked with I had a different profession They wanted to know and they that

 I think it's, you can make talking about money tacky for sure. You don't have to be gauche. If it's a salary conversation. I think it's important to talk about it. 

There's also a ton of data online now that you can go find that stuff out. \ in the last few years of working in tech have people. Who will I haven't heard of in ages reach out and ask me my opinion on their salary and ask me the general going rate for XYZ and ask me consulting rates and ask me, at this size company at the stage company in this role with this many people and this many responsibilities.

I'll absolutely tell them my opinion. Yeah.

 It really only women who were asking me, but there were a few when I would tell them would frown upon that and they and that's fine. I get like hearing other people when you're at a certain place in life and you hear other people making a bunch of money, like it can be 

hard.

It can be hard if you are unsatisfied with where you're at.

Which I think

a 

a lot of people like 



Yeah. I had a friend who let me know a friend got a raise. And I was so 

happy

for her. We should be celebrating that.

so thrilled.

I was like, yes, because I want my friends to make good money. I want my friends to be very successful. And it's not about making a lot of money. It's making the right kind of 

money

money 

for you're 

what the role is worth, and what it should be. I was looking, it was NHL It was like draft day?

I feel like you would know this more than I would.  It was draft day earlier this week, it was candidate day earlier this week and  I did a quick scroll through and was like, I'm sorry, you make what? To do 

The

hockey player 

Holy

cow. 

Mhm.

It's a bit bananas. 

It's a lot of money. And that's what's frustrating when you see sports that women play, women's sports.

Don't fucking 

start. I can't.

want the same percentage that they're making. My head's 

My head's gonna explode with this jet lag. I can't It was like, Caitlin Clarke is gonna make 80 grand. Yeah. 80 grand!

And it's not about, 80 grand is a great salary, but it's not the same percentage of what she makes the league, right?

It's the idea that we should be making a percentage of the whole league's profits.

Okay, first group of interviews that we do, I want either a sports executive or a professional woman athlete, and I want to go through the whys

and How

we repair it and how we get

What can we do? Yeah. 

know. It would help if your dad's LeBron James.  that help? Because he got his son into the NBA. So LeBron James son.

that's Nepo. That's Nepo baby on another fucking

Brawny has just been 

Is he good?

No 

he's not. He was like 83rd overall. And the only reason people are speculating that he was drafted is so that LeBron could play one last season with his son on the team.

So LeBron,

ratings, bitches.  man. 

said, if you don't draft my son, I'm going to go play for the Celtics. 

So, 

The Lakers were like, do we keep LeBron James for one more year? He's LeBron James. exactly. 

I'm covered in goosebumps. That's no different than the CEO hiring his son to do XYZ.

That's some succession level shit right there. I want to see that show. I want to see that. I want to see the behind the scenes, like Moneyball style TV series of those negotiations. Oh, that's ugly. Yeah. I don't like 

But then also

imagine being. Bronnie the son and 

you just gotta prove yourself and you just.

Everyone knows you throw more bricks than a drunk bricklayer.

You know what I mean? That's not a saying

When I do sports analogies, I sound so stupid, but you just made me feel so much better about when I say sports

He's throwing more bricks than a drunk bricklayer. 

Where did 

if you throw bricks, it's not a good, it's not a good shot. And so I figured if you're a bricklayer, but you've been drinking, maybe you're throwing the bricks, not at the house, but in different 

I like it. I get it. I got the sports 

analogy. 

you did.  One more time. Yeah, so that's the news.

Should we talk about the U.

S. presidential debate?

  Let's not.

 I think people are making it into a A bigger shitstorm than it needs to be.

This happens every time we have an election cycle. I wanted to talk about the news that came out earlier this week about executive power. 

I flipped the table.

It's king rules. It's the king again. It's the goddamn king.

Okay, but this is what they're doing. So the U. S. Supreme Court ruled that Donald Trump cannot be prosecuted for actions that were within his constitutional powers as a president.

 The justices in a 6 3 ruling, authored by Chief Justice John Roberts, what a guy, threw out a lower court's decision that had rejected Trump's claim of immunity from federal criminal charges, involving his efforts to undo the 2020 election loss to Joe Biden.

The six conservative justices were in the majority, while its three liberal members dissented. Duh. So it sounds like he's law free, right? Yeah. There's so much discourse online, but really, if the President of the United States ordered the military to kill a political opponent, for example, is that technically an official act as Commander in Chief?

The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, possibly the world, TBD, depends 

on 

Yep. We haven't had to see that demonstration of power yet. I'm not really interested. But when he uses his official powers in any way Under the majority's reasoning, he will now be insulated from criminal prosecution.

And he has the majority's reasoning.

Roberts Court is a conservative court. The Roberts Court is considered the time since 2005, during which the Supreme Court of the United States has been led by John Roberts as Chief Justice. And, I wanna read you a list. Yeah. Of what they've done in the last few years.

This is Roberts Court. Huh. Huh. Named after John Roberts. 

 Okay, gotcha.

Yeah. Who's the Chief 

Justice?

What, What has Robert's

Here's a magical list. They've overturned affirmative action. They've overturned Roe v. Wade. They've restricted voting rights. They've overturned Chevron, which is a longer story, where undermining the regulatory state.

Okay.

They've allowed homelessness to be criminalized. And they've now drastically expanded executive power. They're essentially undoing social progress of the 20th and 21st century.

So if you want to vote in the upcoming American election, it might be your last chance to vote because there may not be another election after 

It's kind of bananas. 

You know that if  the right wins again the presidential race,  there'll be more people on this Roberts court.

Oh yeah,  it would be a hot mess express for years to come. Unless that's your thing. Maybe you're excited about this. 43 million people voted for Donald Trump in 2020.

Yeah.

Some people are into this shit.

Yeah. 

does have the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever, but I don't know. I don't know. I'm not smart enough in U. S. politics to 

know how

this works. What could he do?

 So the Supreme Court is saying that  when the president uses their official powers in any way.

He will now be insulated from criminal prosecution. So he'd be insulated from any criminal charges. I don't want that because it's that's not the kind of place I want to live.

Thankfully, I don't live there, but that's not a democracy.

No. That's terrifying.

I did have a few friends text me since this ruling came out. What 

What did they say? Tell me the funny things. You have funny friends.

Tell me all the

They want to come to Canada.

That's what they all said last time! And they didn't! 

One of my friends said happy Canada day. What are your policies on people fleeing their own country as political refugees? 

Americans, you can come up to Canada.

You're more than welcome. 

Gotta work, the dollar's no

dollars, no good. There's fires everywhere. So you can maybe be a fire person.

Yeah, it's a That's terrifying. And I say I didn't Why

People who are listening are going to be like, that's a subjective 

premise Like 

What is scary about it?

I see nothing in the future of politics reflected in my beliefs

In the states?

in the states. And here in Canada I'm seeing it where I have a lack of choice for candidates.  

Yes, to that. 

And we do have multiple parties to choose from unlike in the States, but we, I don't know, there's something really discouraging and it makes you think this is how people check out.

, Oh, I can't with all this. It's chaos.  So when you no longer see yourself or your values reflected in this democracy, it's really easy to go, I don't know, and walk away from it.

I

think that's what's scary, is that it makes a lot of people check out.

Or double down.

Oh No question. 

I had some Americans in Canada during Canada Day, and they were surprised that we don't really, they were like, there's no big firework, or 

There used to be.

They cancelled the Canada Day parade in Montreal this year. Why? Because they didn't have enough money for security.

So they decided to put most of the funding for security for a big parade towards Pride in Montreal. 

cool.

But then it also just means that there was no Canada Day parade. 

Oh my  yeah

there is a lack of celebratory air.

If you ever did wanna feel encouraged and uplifted, go to a citizenship ceremony. You can volunteer there, God,

people are so 

And

You can see people who are becoming new Canadians and how exciting it is.

were in Greece, and the country of Greece is coming out of a rough period, 

I want to talk about Greece though. They have really good food. They

They have really good 

I'm wearing very stretchy pants 

today.  

I went to 

Greece because my kids really love Greek mythology.  They love Percy Jackson Heroes of Olympus, like all those kinds of books. They did their culture night projects on it.

Big fans of Greece, and Greek culture, and Greek mythology, and Greek history, so we went and we did the whole touristy thing. I didn't go to Greece thinking about the food, but now it's all I'm gonna talk about.  

You

went for the history 

And then I just ate tzatziki and melissano salata, which is like the smoked eggplant dip.

My guy. I ate so much food, my boobs are so big

What was the food that you were like, what, I want this in every bowl, the way you do this here,

Squid ink calamari risotto. I'm using air quotes, it was not risotto. It was tiny diced up calamari in a squid ink. Ugh. Shrimp saganaki with feta and roasted red pepper

The Melizano Salata, mostly I just like to say it because I can say it, I can't say so much. Greek language is hard. I went over there thinking that please was sasparakalume, but it's actually like not that at all, that's what Google Translate told me, and the guy was like, we don't say please, like you're never going to say please.

 What I did learn was. Thank you, which is Fcaristo. And then of course I was trying to pronounce things like an Italian and emphasizing the wrong syllable. Every time. So it was just a fun experiment.  Learned Yamas. Yamas is cheers. That's a 

very 

good one. 

one.  

Cheers. Did you drink, is it ouzo?

I don't drink very much, but yes, I did partake.  There was some beverage. I don't know if it was actually Uzo, but it smelled like diesel fuel.  

But it

was so good. The tzatziki, the chicken, the fish. The fish was amazing. All the ceviche was good.

It's a long flight,

It is a privilege to travel, but the pandemic, I've never done a really explore trip with my kids because it's so expensive to travel as a  I feel really lucky we've just plugged away at save, saving my little pennies.

And  because they clicked the crease instead. Yeah. Oh my god. But yeah, super douchey to be like, I went to Europe, but yeah, I fucking went to Europe. It was great.  But

when you travel, you really appreciate home.  I came back on Canada Day. I 

 We're so lucky. We're so lucky.

Were people in Greece talking about the new ruling of the six day work week?

 That's something that 

No!

So 

the Greece has now said, in order to get out of our economic slump and financial situation going to have a six day work week or a 48 hour work week. Now this is not for every profession, but this is for the professions where, 

48 hour work week? Huh. What? 

or six days.

Oh, sorry. I get it. Instead of a 40 

40 hour, So you can either tack on two hours every 

hours every day. Is this

for 

yeah. Or if you work in some sort of tourism industry, something that would require a business to be open 24 Every day of the week. 

Greece's primary industries are agriculture and tourism.  Agriculture, they are definitely feeling the effects of a change in climate that was brought up. And discussed. And then tourism, they're just bouncing back post  Just. They were annihilated during the pandemic. I think that's a real struggle. A lot of their agriculture, also, is Now this is a Greek's perspective. The perspective of the person who was explaining this to me is that most of their high quality agriculture is shipped. To Northern Europe, and then export it.  I think it's really hard to get out of 

The economic situation they're in.

 The explanation from another guy was, because we obviously are huge nerds and would ask about this they want to talk about it.

Yeah. But they talk about their brain drain, same as we do in Canada, we talk about the brain drain, they talk about it there. They're like, nobody wants to stay here, they're not going to make any money here. If they want to work in tech or a high tech job, they go north. And they also said that because of the deal with the IMF, that happened in 2008 when they bail them out, essentially, of their economic crisis they, every year are just paying off the interest of that loan and that they will never climb out.

So I'm not surprised they're grasping at straws and talking about a 48 hour or a six day work week. That blows. That's just like, that's no 

good.

But so does only paying off the interest on a credit card  it's the thing of if you only pay the minimum payment you're stuck in debt forever How do you get out? So I think it's interesting that I wouldn't want to do it But

I don't know about their public system. The being a public servant, do you get a pension, that kind of 

stuff? 

I don't know. do people get to retire there? I don't know. I'm not walking around this earth thinking I'm gonna get to retire.

 I think I'll always have to work until the day I

I would 

love to retire.

I have a hat, it's my favorite hat, it says aspiring retiree, and it's funny because it'll never fucking happen.

I just don't see how I would ever get to the point where I go, okay, I'm good. 

No, I don't see it.

Okay, let's say you go to a place where the cost of living is nothing, right? You move out of the 

where is 

Where is that?

In Canada.

I'll tell you where it is. It's where I, it's where I kill someone. Cause I'm living in a small town and I just go crazy and I kill 

someone

Caitlin! What? Steve in.

So I'm thinking it's more like you gotta move to Wawa, Ontario. Or you've gotta move to

I didn't know we had a place called Wawa Ontario. Oh, you're both nodding at me. Oh 

gosh! Wawa,

it's the only way If you're driving around the Great Lakes, you go 

right

through Wawa.

That is a long fuckin

drive. 

a long drive. I've driven across the country a few times. And then the third time I was like, we're going through the States so much faster.

 



Let's say you're at a restaurant, a group of six people. Okay. You go out for dinner. How would you do the bill? Let's say one person doesn't say they're going to cover it. 

Oh, that's usually what I do, because I'm I want to avoid the whole kit and caboodle. I want just everybody to have a really good time, and I don't have the money to do it, but I usually would try to pick up the tab really discreetly, because I'm an idiot.

Yes.

There's six of you who went to dinner. Okay.

Okay.

What would be your inclination?

There's a few options, I think for bill splitting etiquette, but what would be your impulse?

I have questions. But generally I assume you pay for what you ordered.

Okay, I like that. 

If

you ordered a bottle of wine to share for the table, you ain't splitting that with people. 

agree! gonna pay for that bottle yourself. And if

you want a second bottle, you're paying for that too. 

That's a good night, but yeah. Yeah and I think whoever is asking, whatever you order, you pay for.

If you ordered appies, and you're like, do you want to share appies? I don't think that implies, do you want to split the cost of the appies? I think it means I'm offering you that. Now those people are gonna get 

If I'm getting calamari for the table, that's on my bill.

I would agree.

And I would even say two cards max for a group of six. Even if you're splitting 

a former waitress, yeah. fuck, I feel so bad. 

E transfer. each other. Figure it out later. Don't ruin the dinner by going, Okay, I'll pay for twenty nine.

I'll pay for twenty nine dollars 

crazy. I usually, I feel so bad. I don't want to inconvenience the server. So I'm like, just one belt.  I'll figure it out 

after.  

I know it'll come back around. 

It all comes out in the wash.  

And if you are someone who is having wine with dinner or a drink with dinner, it's important to think of the other people who are not drinking and go, okay, my bill will be bigger than theirs. 

Yeah, but you're an asshole if you're holding that against people. 

But there's also the thing of if you're gonna split it right down the middle.

it's

worth saying you know what? I drank wine. Why don't I cover the tip?

Agree with that. So why did you bring that up? Did you have, did something happen? Something

happened at the restaurant where a group of people came in with Starbucks cups.

No hate on that. And they're like, do you mind if we have our drinks in here? We are a bar restaurant. 

We're 

like, 

it's  

Then they said, we'll have three waters, please. And I was like, okay, That's fine. Maybe they're going to eat. The three of them split a burger, their bill was 19.

90 and they left a 20 bill. 

bill. 

And I stopped them and I said, you forgot your change.

and it was 10 cents.

You're a dick. But I love it. 

I was like, you forgot your 

like 

they were like, Oh, you can keep it. And I said, nah, 

nah, 

no, I'm 

And it also comes

And it also comes to the point of people telling you after the fact, and a lot of people haven't worked in the service industry or restaurants and.

I think that should be mandatory. I think working in the service industry is, should be mandatory for all people who want to vote or exist in

society. And if you want separate bills, you say it at the beginning of the meal, not at the end.

These people were, they're just nightmares.

But I'm saying were they? How old were they? 

they? 

They were young. 

Okay. 

 in their twenties. Actually no, one of them was the mom. It was a mom and two daughters. Yes.

 Ooh, 

So that was a thing where I just, I wanted to 

bring up. Times are tight. Times are tight. I'm not defending 

Well, then you shouldn't be eating at a restaurant.

We shouldn't come in with your tea. Do you know how much Starbucks, they paid more for three Starbucks than they did for your 

was

the kicker too. They had these big ass milkshakes of a 

coffee.

Yeah. They paid more for those three drinks at Starbucks than they did for your burger. I'm sorry that happened.

it's okay. It happens all the time, but it's a  

Oh yeah. Yeah. People. I have forgotten how to eat at restaurants, how to be out in public, 

it's so interesting that you say that because, is that like the reaction to this like insane tip culture?

Frankly, even having been a person in the service industry for many years, I think tip culture is out 

hand. It's  

hand. Yeah, so is that just the reaction of someone being like, Fuck tips! And being like, here's your ten cents, bitch. Is that what that is?

is? No, I think it's lack because they were lovely.

They were taking pictures and laughing and like having a great time.

a bunch of cunts.

Yeah, I also don't think we've shared etiquette in that kind of way. I see people, if I go out for dinner with my husband, I'll see other people at dinner and they're on their iPads or they're doing a thing or they're watching.

We were at a concert once and this guy had set up his phone in the field so that he could watch a hockey game at a concert. And I was like you're at a live concert and he wanted to watch a sports game. So I don't think we've.

A, we're We're so spoiled. Access to

Yeah, it's not special anymore.

We 

are a culture of abundance. 

Yeah, you go out for dinner and everyone's like, this isn't entertaining 

So that I disagree with because I don't think I'm like an old soul or whatever. I just, I miss people so much that I think I'm coping with it and I go, I want to know so, don't want to know TMI. I want to know all the things. I want to talk about pubic hair trans. I want to talk about everything and I don't want to look at my phone.

I've, it's taken me a long time to learn to only go to my phone when I want to go to my phone. I don't have any notifications. It's on DND all the time. Yeah, I go it's there for me. No, I don't. Not the other way around. It was like Celine was like, the shoes don't wear me. I wear the shoes. The phone doesn't work me I work the 

phone. 

 asked about tip culture. And they're like, what do you think about tip culture? And so I was trying to simplify it as much as possible. 

I think if you sit for service,  you tip. Yeah. That's my general thing, 

When we were traveling, I had to use the washroom, so I bought like, the liquidy syrupy orange cake, which was so good, and a Fredo cappuccino, which is like an iced cappuccino.  And then I asked if I could pee after I peed and tipped.

Yes. Oh my god.

It was Anthony Bourdain who said if you want to use a a restroom in New York City, you find a bar, you sit at the bar, you order a drink, and then you go to the bathroom.  I love that quote. I just think it's important.

I wanted, I brought it up only because It's splitting the bill etiquette. It's tip etiquette. I agree that the tip options are on everything now to the point that I'm put off by them.

I am too, it sucks, like literally just pay your workers more. I think that you're, it's just companies putting the onus on the customers who are already paying four dollars for a coffee. And then expecting them to tip the barista for just doing the job. I'm not anti tipping baristas. I want to be super clear.

I always do. But I don't like the expectation. I think that companies should just pay their workers  

It's like when peoplethis is actually not comparable at all, but A travel etiquette thing where people clap when the plane lands.

so stupid. Every 

flight

that 

every flight that I was on this 

that's 

when you realize I've been surrounded by idiots this whole time. I didn't realize I was on an airplane surrounded by morons. I 

think  I think 

benefit of the doubt thinking that you're

But I'm such a jerk. I was like, do we applaud the bare minimum?  the job of the plane was to get from point A to point B, and frankly, Boeing, doesn't always happen.

There was a flight earlier this week going from Toronto to Paris and it was a Boeing flight and you can, there's a video of it and one engine is just like sparking and so they had to do an emergency landing and I'm just like,  I don't want to applaud.

 

Basic.

Thank you for landing the plane. Thank you for the bare minimum and your shitty almonds going from point A to point B that cost a fortune.  

of dollars.

I'm not clapping.

I didn't know that pilots egos were so

But I wondered if I missed some like crazy internet trend because most of my Canadian flights we do not clap. 

But in Europe, we all clapped.

Also, it wasn't some sort of 

performance 

jackal. No, it was not performance. It was not art. There's nothing

was nothing to 

it.

I also am I wear masks  Forevermore.

Yeah, are you forever now that you travel you will wear a mask. 

On a plane.  Kids too.

That's fair. You don't want to get sick and that is where we get sick on these airplanes.

three days after every flight, somebody gets sick. And it's not even about covid, it's just people are gross.

also airplanes are disgusting. The seats, the armrests.

And I'm not like a germophobe. I, no, but the masks go on.

If you are ever flying and you don't have a mask, what you can do is you can turn your vent on. And it creates a little dome around you of air. So if you put your fan on 

recycled air from other people's breathing. But

it's still, it's pushing germs down and around 

Or further into your pie hole. 

There's formaldehyde in those masks.



In the mask that I wear? Probably. We're all gonna die. Did you hear 

Not 

Not 

You're not gonna die. Did you hear about  the recent study that was done on semen? 

 The internet's gonna love this segment. Oh  

we're gonna talk about cum! There was a study done, I wasn't even gonna talk about this today, but seeing as we're on the topic of how we're all gonna die, and we're all gonna be poisoned, there was a recent study done on semen.

Semen. And there was microplastics found in every single participant in the study.

 People, if you needed another reason not to swallow. bad for your  Emily. Laura. 

Emily. Emily?  Key. 

of that right now. Don't swallow!  I was such a navigate for swallowing, but now don't.

There's more   I'm going

I stopped using sea knives. God, that apricot scrub I really thought was the problem. 

Remember 

to put on our face? 

Wait, how many, how did they, how many people did they sample?

out. Microplastics. Do you love listening to us fucking talk every 

day? Rotten.  

Microplastics in testicles. Plastic junk.  Microplastics presence in dog and human testes and its potential association with sperm count. So we've heard and read that sperm counts are decreasing. using advanced sensitive pyrolysis gas chromatography mass spectrometry, I can't say it, I don't know, we quantified 12 types of microplastics within 49 canine and 23 human testes.

Okay, so it's a tiny study, but still 100 percent there were, there

100 percent

the other microplastics in everybody's shmagma.  Ladies? Gentlemen? Don't swallow. That's all I have to say about that. What else did you want to talk about today, since I tend to always bring us back to perverted 

can't stop thinking about what that's going to do to human development.

We're fucked. We're so fucked.

If there is plastic in our DNA. 

They didn't say DNA, but I'm not smart enough to know if it's in your crumb, does that mean it's in your DNA? I don't know if it's like in the spermy,

germy, I don't know. 

Is shmegma?

Yeah, that's a thing.

Schmegma is like the Uzi bets. Schmmm Oh my god! Schmegma. Oh my god! S M E G M A is a white I can't do it. 

Is a white cheesy substance.

Stop.  

That can build up under the foreskin of the penis or

or in the  

Or in the vaginal area, especially if you don't clean it 

enough.

Wait, I don't have it?



 I'm, sorry. Your mom's listening to this. You guys gonna talk about this 

later?

Mom, we're going to Van Dusen. I want to talk to you about

It is normal to have some shmegma, but if it builds up too much it can cause problems such as odor and irritation Okay, so shmegma is not cum.

It's not. 

i've been

You heard it here first, folks.  Let's talk about bees.

Oh my god! Did I tell you? What? Oh, you were talking about flowers and that made me think of it. Remember how all the bee colonies were dying and we didn't have enough bee colonies? Now we have so many. They're back. The bees are back. 3. 8 million bee colonies in the U.

S. alone.

How do they get

Okay, but here's what 

Is it because I planted those 

It is. But here's what I want to ask you. Yeah. How do you think they count them? I don't know.  

Hmm.  No, really. How do you think they count 3. 8 million bee colonies?

How are they like, there's 3. 8, not 3. 7, not 

3. 4. Not 2. 

Not 2. 

4. 

How do they count the

 Two decades into this colony collapse, we now have 3. 8 million bee colonies. 

ANd they're going by colonies, not by individual 

bees.  

But

then how do they 

them? 

Tell me. How do you think they count them? What are your craziest comedic ideas of how they count

No, let's, no jokes about this. Let's take it very seriously. I think there is a community.

A bee mometer? 

There's a bee community and they, yeah, and each one has at the top and they 

Like a person?

There's one 

person and they have a colony, but then that person has four other people who have their own colonies.

And it's a like multi level marketing pyramid market 

or

were they just not counting properly last time?

Yeah. Was it really in decline

for the last two years or were they just miscounting?

One guy was sleeping on the job.

one person was like, we should count it this way. It's probably better. And then they were like this is great news. 

that's great news 

it could be, let's not.  

sometimes people overestimate the size

And is there 

of things.  

company that's counting?

I would assume that it's like a grid system where they're like,

In this area 

of the world. 

If you know how they count the number of colonies Not the colony size, I got that. I got the frame metric.  For colony size.

I want to know how they count to 3. 8 million 

colonies.  

And where are they? Is there a grouping? 

Maybe it's 3. 8 million colonies that are like 

official.

And they've registered their colony with the bee company.  Maybe you do. Maybe it's like the DMB.

Ha!  

I win!

You are

You are a comedian after

I this is going to keep me up at night. Because I also think they're lying.

Oh, Caitlin! That's

my first impulse. They're full of it.  Yeah, but this is the kind of news where I go, I don't think you counted right the last time.

 



Did you watch the Martin Short interview where he's substituting for Jimmy Kimmel? Also, bless Jimmy Kimmel's heart. He just decides to take the summer off.

I was thinking maybe we should just take August off. What do you think? 

Is he doing it as Martin Short or is he doing it as 

Glick? He 

He 



I haven't, I love Jiminy Glick it, nothing makes me laugh like he does.

Jiminy Glick interviews Bill Hader, and Bill Hader giggles like a schoolgirl the entire 

I would too I will

It, I will send you the link. 

Get yourself another pair of panties cause you're gonna pee your pants

YouTube hole I'll go down 

as I was driving here, I went like this. The lips, the teeth, the tip of the tongue. The lips, the teeth, the tip of the tongue. Oh, that's my vocal warm up. All done.

Well done. I don't do a vocal warm up. Maybe I should. You're

the professional singer.



No, I was never professional. But I definitely could sing.

You could be.  Oh, we should put out a record, an album, of just your music one week. 



 nice. When 

I was writing a novel, that was really bad, it's sitting on the shelf because I can't stand to look at it right now.

It's just percolating. Some of the time when I couldn't actually write it, I would go and compose what the soundtrack would be for the scene. Just in case you were wondering how broken my brain 

is. No,

I love that because then you were still creating the story and still living in the story, but not worrying about words and choices and what's right and what's wrong. That's a really cool creative process to take, is to take it musically.

Cause sometimes words on a page are very restrictive. You look at, Dude, did I spell it right? How's my grammar? I know that, I know you think it's silly, but I think you're beautiful. 

it's silly because I did not publish a book.

It's like not a great creative process. If the thing at the end of it, 

the end of it,  disagree.

Even as you were saying 

it, you  dissolve 

went, that's not, you don't believe that.

I don't know if, I don't, I'm still relearning the creative

process. 

No, definitely not. Who is good at their creative process, though, is Will Smith. 

 



what are you reading? 

you're gonna Redemption Road by John Hart. It's a real murder, mystery, thriller, fiction,  

Ooh 

it 

beetroot it's alright.

What do you consider a beach read? Mystery and thriller and suspense doesn't sound like beach read. I always think of romantic comedies.

Romantic comedy is the film genre, but I always think of romance 

novels as beach reads.

I think of a beach read. Maybe this is a good question because now I'm realizing I think it's a book that fits in my bag. So it's not a hardcover, it's a softcover. And it's a book that can get

the

spines cracked on it. And it can be plunked in the  

Huh. Oh, do you have books that you wouldn't throw in the sand? 

Yeah. yeah! 

I have indoor books and outdoor books. 

I've

literally never thought about this and I think about some wacky stuff. You have indoor books and outdoor

this and I think stuff. Do you have indoor books and

What the fuck is an indoor book? 

the fuck indoor book? Oh, yeah. Heavy? 

the 

Yeah, that's an indoor book for me. 

I that. Hardcover, 

indoor book.  Sensitive topic, indoor book. Like I'm not going to read The Body Keeps the Score on the 

Oh, no. 

I'm not reading Atomic Habits on the Beach.

 I used to only read business books 

 And actually my friend Aiden,  she makes amazing playlists and she quit her job and runs an amazing floral company.

She's so creative. She's like going full bent creative.  I was telling her about the books that I was reading on vacation or something. This was a few years ago and she was like, why on earth would you read business books outside of business hours? And it completely changed my perspective on what I was reading because I really was reading like every business book, every leadership book, and I was really in my career and that was my whole identity.

And she reframed that for me probably in 2018 around reading for pleasure. Man, I've really been enjoying reading since 

Yeah what are you reading now?

I re read A Gentleman in Moscow on my trip. That was just like a hearty, beautiful, easy read, ,  

You started reading that book a few weeks ago.

Yeah, and I realized I'd read it already. Did you ever do that? I do that all the fucking time. I'm like, oh, that's a great book! And  my partner's always like, you own this.  

 idiot 

fucking idiot. But a new book just came out. I just have it on my doorstep.

I haven't started reading it, but I'm really excited to.



It's called The God of the Woods by Liz Moore. She wrote Long Bright River which was like on Obama's list, and like a bunch of highfalutin people praised her last book. This one is about a 13 year old who goes missing from summer camp.

It'll be in the show notes. Oh, 

yeah. And her, it's a thriller, drama,  the catch is this 13 year old's parents own the camp. And, another twist, 14 years prior, her brother went missing and was never found.  I don't usually like Missing children, missing women, any of the murdered, so many books.

There was one time I went to an airport and every single book I picked up was a missing or dead woman. And I was like, I refuse to get off on this kind of book. I refuse to find pleasure in this. I refuse to put my dollars in this. This is not what I want to read. There's enough shit in the world. I like to read for pleasure, enjoyment, sexy times, all that kind of stuff.

So yeah, sometimes I get into it sometimes I don't so but I'm I'm excited to read this one the God of the woods

Okay, let me know how it is.

I shouldn't read it when my daughter is going to summer camp next 

Maybe I'll wait till 

wait. Yeah.  I could, I understand that. Were you like, why would I want to

why would I want 

I don't want 

Plant that nasty seed in your head. You don't need that. 

I'm also doing a book giveaway 

later this week. Yeah, so this week I'm doing a book giveaway

How does it work?

I will have a bunch of books and you can comment on Instagram which book you want and you will be entered in to win that book. A bunch of other people and I'll pick randomly with a random name picker on the internet.

god, how many books are you giving away?

 40. 

Whoa! Where did you get all these 

I read them. I read a lot. Yeah.

gonna, I'm gonna enter the giveaway.

Yeah, you should.

 I'll do it on the  hardcopy. online, on Instagram.

A link to it in the show notes.  

Emily, would you want to make a playlist with me? We could make a 

 weekly breakdown 

That would be amazing! And

we can put some fun music in there. A few bops. If you want to find new music or

That sounds fun.

 

We can just make a, your weekly breakdown playlist.

I have playlists all the time on Hard Copy. Great. That's one of my hear, don't think, just enjoy things. And I really 

the things. Okay, I'm gonna make you a playlist. I don't know, music that I love that I want you to 

hear.

I 

like, I love this

song. Remember when we used to make burn CDs? Yes. Ooh,

mixtapes. it 

was such a way of showing your affection for someone to be like, I spent hours on this and then I decorated it.

I wrote it. Remember getting liner notes, you would open up, you get a new 

that's how I learned all the lyrics.

I knew all the lyrics. I used to love seeing that. What was the first cd you ever got?

Oh. Probably Sharon Lowe Sombraham? No. Probably a new like, a New Kids, I bet. Or Tony Braxton. 

Oh.  was Alanis Morissette, Jagged 

Pill. Oh, that's a good one. Remember in the liner notes the lyrics were like, it looked like it was written by hand?

And you'd always be like, what pictures are they putting in the album? 

I love those. 

 playlists are kind of it. That's like as good, as close to that feeling as I think we can get.

think we can get. One of my friends have a, a kid who has somehow found a and they have become obsessed.

This child and they have become obsessed with 

like us with 

with vinyl.

Yes, exactly.

That's so awesome. My parents did a big clean out. I love it. a few years ago and I obviously did not get to go home to PEI to participate and so I had to trust my brothers and the only thing that anyone salvaged of my pile This leather binder with sheets of CDs. And my little brother took it. And so he has it, and it was like, all the warm up CDs. I used to make warm up CDs for the basketball game.  Or our road trips. Yeah.  so good. Anyway, so he has that little bastard 

see him. You know where he

he gets home I do know where he lives?

and I know that his wife is listening to this I'm coming to get it in the summer and you're gonna help me.

Also give my niece a kiss 

I love  

her. I love that. My nephew's coming to Vancouver this summer.

He's gonna do basketball 

camp. He's 10.

Oh, that's so

He and his dad are going to come for two weeks and they're going to, he's going to do basketball camp. But like you said, it's three hours a day. But then it means that I get my nephew in the city for two weeks.

That's pretty fun. What are you gonna do?

going to do pools. We're going to go to the beach. We're going to hang out,  Eat ice cream. Get some rollerblades. I don't know.

Do you have a summer bucket list? 

I have one thing on it and it's, I want to go home to Montreal in August. I'm working until the end of July. 

No, that's not what I'm asking. I'm not asking what your plans

are When

you're coming into summer. What will make the summer satisfying for 

you?

I've never done that.

Do you have a life bucket 

list? No. 

 What would make a summer satisfying for you? I'll give you an example. One thing that's on my list is dining alfresco. Eating outside, on a beach. 

That is 

my summer. Okay, 

so do you have other things like that make summer more exciting for you? Going to a live concert, outside, or something like that.

Yes, I think a big one is eating outside. If I can eat dinner outside every night, I will. Oh my god, Emily, I had corn on my cob last 

night.  so good. Just some butter on

Do you na na na na na or do you cut the corn 

Do you cut teeth and I go teeth horizontal. 

Do people go vertical? Huh. No!

Yeah!  

ever seen someone

people go vertical a lot?  What? 

 like, this 

and then they turn it like it's a Like it's a

Corinne, you're holding it. I know it's a podcast, so this is really not a good medium.

Oh my God, I forgot. Oh, no. Oh.

So you're holding the corn like 

this like a water bottle like a

like upright, so yeah, so it's going up and down, but  you just start  chewing away all the way down. 

Oh, I went this way.

Oh, no, I meant like the No.  

Of 

course That's 

hold it.

I meant chewing direction. Oh, 

Oh,

like eating it. Like this? Yeah. Oh, 

it like this. I'm gonna try that. Wait, 

try 

That's on my summer bucket list is to try and eat corn that way.

that's definitely on there 

I 

do like a charred, like charred corn in a salad. Also, why doesn't our body digest corn? 

why?

and it's in everything and I know when i've had corn

Because it's

fully

Even if I've chewed it, which is confusing.

you're like how did it regroup I want to swim in the ocean a bunch. I want to I went to see vampire weekend and they performed at deer lake park. 

That

was fun. Wow. 

I want to see Neil Young is coming to Deer Lake Park.



On July 22nd, Neil Young is playing at Deer Lake Park. 

Neil Young is also playing on July 24th at Dealey Park. Two shows? That seems wild.

 Oh, that would be amazing. That would be like a life altering 

That's something I would want. To sit outside, get a blanket, enjoy Neil Young playing. 

Yeah, I'm sure. 

I need to go because my children are

Yes, you have children. 

Don't

Recommend it.  I love them. I could eat them.

My daughter's cutting off all her hair

She is?  But her hair is so long!

I know. My daughter had this whole thing about not wanting to cut her hair. And, that's a, that's, it's her hair, it's her, I don't tell my kids how to dress, I don't, I'm a health and safety parent. If it doesn't have to do with health or safety, you're I'll help guide you in your choice.

But, anyway  she's ready to cut it off.  It's a big independence thing for 

her. 

I love that. 

I love that.

she also made the choice earlier to be like, I'm keeping my hair. It's a choice I'm making.

Yeah, it was, it's a, Piece of her autonomy.   

And I think that's a wonderful thing for a little person to learn 

is to go, I'm saying no to 

Yeah. And my son refuses to cut his hair and he wants hockey hair. Like Brock Buster. He wants the little flip doodle on the back.

He doesn't look like Brock Buster.

That's

No. He's much younger.

Rock be's very young. Compared to me, I'm old, but he's a tall glass of water.

Are you more of a NHL fan or do you prefer who's if you're crushing on an athlete, is it soccer, hockey, basketball, football, baseball? Or tennis.

think I'm sport agnostic.

Yeah.

You're open.

I'm very open.

No, tennis too dramatic. 

yeah, 

too, sorry, football too 

too dramatic. 

American football. Not my thing. 

 I used to be a tall, dark, and handsome, now I'm a tall blonde, give me a tall blonde. So David Oosted was the Dutch keeper for the Vancouver Whitecaps back in the day. I had the hots for him  and then obviously Brock Besser I don't really get super wound up about

crushes like that.

I just thirst a bit maybe? 

Yeah. I also have, friends of friends and been around professional athletes and I'm good. Yeah. No thank you.

Speaking of I'm good, I saw Andrew Scott dancing at a Taylor Swift 

concert.

I

was wondering if we were gonna bring him up. You didn't like it did 

you? Nope.

There was no 

no sexy detective. Nope. No. In fact, I went take him off Quinn.

No. 

Oh 

 

So if you would like to keep being horny for Andrew Scott, don't look at the clip of Andrew Scott dancing. I have news on Quinn though. 

I want to bring him up because I feel like every podcast we found a way to

just 

bring him up. 

Kate Monig is voicing story for Quinn, in case you needed to rev up your bisexual

situation. She is So hot. Yeah. Ugh. 

I just want to look at her face. 

I was watching the teaser trailer and I was like, 

oh yes.

Huh.

Oh yeah, she looks great in a tank top.

top. She's fabulous.  I don't I thirst for all. So yeah, I don't discriminate. Who do Who's like your Do you have a crush?

A crush? 

Do you thirst over

No, I'm There was a study that said a little while ago that We're only actually attracted to 4 percent of the population.

And I was like, that absolutely 

sucks me.

Mine are all  6'5 

Yeah. I 

don't a lot of people attractive if I don't know them. It's hard for me to just have a superficial crush in that kind of 

way.

I completely agree because I could have a two sentence conversation and be immediately repulsed by 

them.

So I would rather not. I don't like daydream about them. Joel Kinnaman is another one who is, he's just so fucking hot. Yeah. He's 44 years old. He's hot.

He's married, he's from Stockholm. This is, I like the Swedes, I like the Swedes and the Dutch. I I 100% have some of that shit in my blood somewhere because I'm six feet tall and blonde. But yeah, they really do it for

me. 

Yeah. I love Glenn Howard  from It's Always Sunny. 

But I'm also like, do I like him? Or do I just like him on 

It's Always Sunny? 

that's the thing, and you mix character with the rest of it.

He's cute.  Not for you, see? But then I also go, if he was in the grocery store, I wouldn't follow him. Is 

Is there anyone you would follow in the grocery store?

It's a

good litmus test to have. Would I follow you around? There are people I think are more attractive because I've seen them at the 

grocery 

just to be clear, I don't discriminate. I thirst for all. I can find something sexy in every single 

And I would argue I can find something revolting about everyone. 

I do 

know. I do. I'm gonna look up that status, but I think when someone said that like 4 percent of the population is only attractive.

That seems high. 

I 

know,

I was like, no, but I, even then I was like, wow, 4 You mean four people, 

oh, it takes a lot. I think that's the other thing is like, someone talked about online dating as  like car shopping. And I could totally see that. I think that's ruining it for people.

You're not really getting to know, you're literally judging at the superficial level.

looks are one thing for sure, but I go, it's way beyond that. Yeah. Voice is a big one for me. Yeah.

It might even be Bill Hader giggling. That'll be it for me, where I go, Oh, he's so happy. 

, yeah, I'd lick his teeth. 

I like him.

He's cute. He's cute. People experiencing joy is cute.

 



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