📍 Are we gonna have an episode today where we don't talk about bodily 

where we 

or Andrew Scott? No. 



My friend texted me. This is a male friend of mine. He goes, 

 Why is there not a new episode?



He'll be satisfied now.

Yeah, he's very excited. He loves it

  Welcome to

your weekly breakdown, the silly and occasionally smart podcast. I'm Emily, an ex tech worker bee, mother of two,  and I've got brain worms.

I got my truck towed. I thought my kids came home from camp tomorrow, but it was today.  Whoopsy Daisy

  And I'm Kate. I am a comedian here in Vancouver, BC, as well as an actor. And warm. 

 You are red. 

I'm always red.

But your boobs look really good.

red. People always look at me and they go, Ooh, you're burnt. And I go, No, I'm pink. This is 

look like you got some sun. I always 

sun. Did you guys go to the garden?

Yeah, 

went to Van Dusen Gardens.

Caitlin's mother is here today, and I've warned her I won't be censoring myself. 

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We're going to, we just keep saying it.  Let's bring on your guy friend who asked if he could be on the podcast. Just cold. And I will have so much fun with that.

I would love that. Let's start bringing in some 

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How are you? 

What a week.

 What a week.

We have a lot to talk about.

There are so many topics that I thought, do I even talk about it? Is it too dangerous to talk about?

with pop culture or bodily fluids? Where  want to start, babe? Take your pick. 

Ooh, let's go pop

culture? Yes, please.  you think about Katy Perry's new era, shall we call it?

Are we talking about her collaboration with Dr. 

Luke

You just got straight to the point. You took the punchline from me, but

yeah. Yeah, let's talk about that. No, it's perfect because her lead single is called Woman's World this feminist anthem I'm using air quotes on feminists, was co written by six people, four of whom were men, produced by three men, I've got Caitlin's mom laughing already, baby, including Dr.

Luke, who's of course the producer who was accused of sexual, physical, and emotional abuse by Kesha.

 The video's got this male gaze music video directed by, you guessed it, a man. So Whose world is it? I don't really know. And to be fair,  Tasha Begg, who writes the Weekly Cosmic Culture, was the one who pointed that out to me in her column this week.

 How can you say it's a woman's world and then have all those it's mostly done by men,  my favourite headline about her new songs, the album's not out yet, Katy Perry is stuck in 2016.  Because it was, we would have rallied around that at the time.

And I don't think people would have dug too deep on producer credits and songwriter credits. And

maybe we didn't know what we know now about this Dr.

Luke guy. And we also, I think for me it's, there's Dr. Luke, but then there's also the fact that she had a song called Women's World, while not actually living in a woman's 

world. 

no. no.  She did an Instagram live and there's a great screen grab of her face looking a little twisted. And one of the comments is, so why did you choose to work with Dr. Luke? I don't think she's even released a comment on that yet.

No, I wouldn't if I were her. 



So there's also the argument that why does she need to work with him? She's Katy Perry. She is a superstar. And there are. Artists who have had to work with him because they needed to get a break.

They were trying to get into the industry. They were getting their first song produced. Dr. Luke could do it. It was a huge moment for them. I don't think Katy Perry needs a big break.  So I don't understand why she's working with this guy that she could be working with any and every producer that's out there right 

Yeah, I don't know.  The other thing is, artists evolve, and I don't, as, I'm not a professional musician, but I get opinionated about music, and hers has not evolved from her last hits.

. Versus someone like a pop star I'm gonna say Miley Cyrus. 

She is. Always evolving.

try new stuff and be pleased to bomb because she's a musician.

Whereas I think Katy Perry's a pop star.

I do too. Okay. That's interesting definition. 

You're right. I don't know why she would work with Dr. Luke over anyone. 

anyone.

She doesn't have to. 

I could see someone in their earlier career, like Miley Cyrus, they did Wrecking Ball together. 

No. Yeah,

Boo.

Boo. But, she's not worked with him since.

So at least Miley Cyrus has evolved. She's not working with him. 

That was in  2013. 

Wrecking Ball is? Huh. I can't even

Oh my god.

That was Katelyn. That was 

No, that was Emily. 

Check the tape. 

tape. I Katy Perry. She is someone who I, if someone was like, describe what Katy Perry looks like, I would say I don't know.  She's constantly changing her face. She has a bit of a chameleon face to me.

She gets mixed up with Zooey  

Yeah. And you know what's funny? I watched the Katy Perry documentary.

great

documentary. It was a 

great

documentary. We talked about this.

Celebrity biopics. What the

hell? 

Yes. Loved them. And I

She was breaking up with Russell 

Brandon. He broke up with her right before a concert and you see it and we have such empathy for her. And then this happens and it just gets undone as far as I'm concerned.

I gotta say my favorite thing is that when someone says Dr.

Luke, the first thing I think about is the allegations against him. And I actually couldn't speak to any of his work. And so while it may not have gone the way Kesha wanted it in court, brand value has decreased on Dr. Luke. Although not enough for him to stop working with

He's an 

But it is a, then it's up to people like Katy Perry to go, No, I'm not gonna work with him.

Agreed. I think 

She has that power. Yeah.  I would think 

so.

 Maybe 

she doesn't think she does. I don't know.

Or maybe she's just a bit of a cog in a machine  

there are definitely artists like that who, the songs are plain.

They're meant to be radio hits. I think that's hard.

Yep

and then, of course, everyone's pregnant right now, in the other kind of pop culture 

Emily, congratulations. 

God, no. Movie stars like Margot Robbie and Alexandra Daddario to reality TV fixtures like Lindsay Hubbard, and the queen of mother karma herself, Gypsy Rose Blanchard  there were a ton of baby announcements.

my conspiracy theory. I have two related to both topics. One,  there have been so many great albums that have come out in the first half of this year. And my conspiracy theory, I'm an Aquarius, I love conspiracy theories, is that

people front loaded the first half of 2024 so they don't have to be doing press so close to the election because they don't want to be asked about it.

 conspiracy theory is that people time their pregnancies to get out of doing public appearances when politics are so heated. Again, totally based on nothing and 100 percent a conspiracy 

I've never thought about the idea of going, okay, an election's coming up in the fall.  The media will just be focused on that.

Let's release something in January, February, March, April, May. That's interesting. Why wouldn't they? They're very aware. They know when a Christmas album's coming 

out.

They have teams of people planning this stuff. I bet you there will be a very quiet fall on the celebrity front. And then November will happen, and by the end of November, everyone will be like, Oh, fuck it.

Let's just do Christmas.

 Okay, so Gypsy Rose Lee, she was married and just got

Gypsy Rose Blanchard?

Thank you.

Who's Lee?

She's a stripper. 

 Gypsy Rose Blanchard was with someone.  And then they separated, right? She was with someone when she first came out of jail. 

 For murder. 

mother.

And then they broke up and then now she's pregnant with a different person. 

Oh!

So there's a new boyfriend. 

That happens.

Lindsey 

Hubbard was engaged on a TV show, Summer House.

do you know this? Oh my god, you watch reality 

I watch reality 

TV. So Lindsay Hubbard was engaged to this man named Carl on Summer House. They then broke up and at the reunion she was pregnant. So like a few months later. So there's also something about people bouncing back and getting right into 

it.

Let me tell you, you gotta do a rebound. Without the baby. Yeah. Highly recommend.

 It's a bad idea to rebound and then be like, I rebounded and we're connected for life.

Oh, God.

else is pregnant? She say,

Margot Robbie.

Oh, that's nice. 

Remember last week, we talked about Taylor Swift getting called a bad role model for girls because she's 34 and childless. 

So there's some gentlemen on the internet, because gentlemen always have the right opinion, Who are saying Margot Robbie, 34 and having a child. "past her prime".

That is who we look to for opinions on women's health and bodies. If you look at the Supreme Court, most of  

I love when men tell me. I love when

so 

helpful.

What's going on with you?

you? Speaking of what men are up to, I just want you to know, have you heard about raw dogging, 

Oh my God. Okay. Oh my God.

Okay.

Raw dogging.

Is, it can mean many 

things.

It is a term from porn. 

Full stop!

I'm alarmed at the number of people I've had to explain that to when they've used raw dogging so casually in conversation with me. I don't think they know that. So this is a semi educational podcast, so just so you know that's a term from porn  term.

First and foremost. Yeah.

What kind of raw dogging are you talking

I'm talking about the kind that everyone's talking about online 

Yeah, they're like, oh my god, she's not on acetalaprim, she's raw dogging life. Oh, she's not taking her ADHD meds, she's raw dogging life.

Oh, they're sober, they're raw dogging life.

For the uninitiated, and those who don't know, raw dogging now is being used as a term to refer to flyers foregoing any in flight entertainment, including movies, as well as avoiding necessities such as food, water, and sleep.

In short, the raw doggers, most of whom are men

they spend all the hours up in the air just staring blankly into 

Okay, do you know who were the OGs of that? Moms. They're the OGs. We get there and we can just stare into space for five hours because our brains are unravelling.

We didn't need to call it raw dogging. We just flew somewhere.

But it's gone viral. It's a trend on the 

But how did they get a picture of themselves, huh? To post?

Oh, yours? Sassy. You wouldn't notice 

Because 

now they're taking pictures of themselves being like, I raw dogged the whole 

the GFA.

And you know they're not raw dogging because if they have to tell the world about it, they need constant hits of dopamine, so they're not sitting there for seven hours. Not a chance. No,

I like to think that they turn to their seatmate and they go, excuse me, do you have a phone? I was wondering if you could take a picture of me and then email it to me when we land. Like, how are they getting these 

I think they're full of beans. I think they're full of beans. How old am I? 

Full of

beans. Full of 

full of beans you guys. I think they're making all up. I think most the stuff people post is fake So I don't think they're rotting anything. I think they take a quick video of themselves and they make a TikTok and make it a whole thing and to be part of a trend. 

Now we all stare at our phones and want to participate in these trends and whatever hashtag. That's literally a growth strategy. 

A social media growth strategy. So if there's a trend that is happening, like the raw dogging, for example.

hate that we have to keep saying this  Okay, yeah.  

If you participate in that, you can get grouped in with that growth. If you have the right SEO, keywords, hashtags, et cetera. If you have a small following, and you participate in a trend, you may have some velocity with that.

It's

That's the currency. That's what they want, right? Yeah.

Yeah. It's, Men. Yeah. I sat and did nothing. Congratulations. Raw dogging. Raw dogging. Get out of 

Yeah.

How about, and they couldn't call it, and I'm being in the moment, they had to find a really, like it's a porn term. Like you said.

that's actually a really good point.

You couldn't just be like, I meditated, or I just sat in, yeah, in the present

I just reveled in the fact that I'm flying. 

No, I had to turn it into some sort of sex term. Now that  as a badge of honor, I don't encourage it. Bring a book on your next flight  also, if I'm sitting next to someone who is doing that, I'm going to go, excuse me, I need to change seats.

I'm sitting next to a psychopath. 

airplane.



Etiquette is hilarious because a lot of people post about it, for example, when people take their shoes off. What? But 

I'd turn my screen off. Do people think I'm a sociopath?  

sociopath? 

stare at the back of the seat and like, think I'll take out a notepad or my day planner. 

And so I'll put it down, close my eyes and just let my brain unravel and then probably every 10 minutes I'm like, Oh yeah. And I write a thing down and eyes 

close my eyes, 

 I can spend a long time staring at the wall.  I also my brain doesn't handle the visual and audio stimulation as well as I used to, right? Post head stuff. So sitting with a screen right in front of my face is like an immediate headache. No, I'd read if my eyes felt up to it. I'd

Sometimes I put my headphones on my noise cancelling headphones just for the noise cancelling. There's nothing playing in them. You do?

I love that. I put on, but when I also, when I go through an airport, I listen to Brian Eno. So it's music for 

You've told me this before. Yes.

then once I get on the airplane, I just leave the air pods in, turn the music off and it's, then I'm like, okay. It brings me to a Zen place.

That's good. Yeah. do you wanna remember you telling me you get a bit of anxiety?

I get a bit of rage and anxiety. Yeah, mostly it's rage. I think there should be two lines. One for those who know what they're fucking doing.

And the other one for those who don't.

I agree. It's, I'm always amazed. You know what, sometimes it's people's first time traveling.

then they should go in the other line.

They have to learn somehow. It was your first time once too.

Yeah, and people got mad at me. And I had to learn, start undoing those shoes when you're in line.

To be fair, they change it almost any time I'm at an airport. Yeah. Almost every time I show up to an airport, it's a different process. And at different airports, it's a different process.

So You're never gonna get it quite

Did I ever tell you what I did at security 

once?

Where you took off your pants? Yeah. You did.  Raw dogging on airplanes.

Do you, buddy. If that'll stop you listening to shitty podcasts and watching bad movies, then fine.

if that means no Joe Rogan, that's great.

Oh God.

He will squash us

like a

bug. Yeah, he would

ruin us. He'd have to find us first. Hey, get this. Yeah, man. The newspaper is coming back. Yeah.

 Mmmmmmm. I'm gonna need to hear more details on

Recently remember newspapers, how people used to get the paper 

 I still know people who

do, 

Yep, I, every once in a while it's, I get magazines, but I don't get the newspaper delivered. But in Haida Gwaii in B. C., close to northern BC off the coast up by Kitimat.

Is that north of Powell 

Yes. It's north of Powell River. 

far. Super duper far. And they're pretty isolated.

Mmhmm.

 Two reporters, one is named Stacey Rosowski, the other Andrew Hudson. They got together and they have made a print newspaper again. And they're doing it because in the Haida Gwaii 

there is no way of getting the news because they were saying what they have mostly is Facebook but you can't share the news on Facebook. 



Thank you, Online News Act

So there's a new newspaper out and it's called the Haida Gwaii News and it's an actual newspaper delivered to the people of Haida 

Gwaii.

 I love when anything comes back to print.

 I think there is a pendulum swing away from technology, screens, not embraced by everyone, but certainly by some, back to more analog or print life, and I think that's a wonderful bit of progress. If it is, in fact, progress, then let's roll with it.

it. Yep. The  so they've got this paper now that they're going to be sharing around, which I just think is really neat to have the return of the newspaper.

on here on having your own  VPN. 

We've talked about cable, we've talked about the Online News Act, and I think we should have a lesson on here, but I will have to look up how to do that and make sure we don't say anything illegal.

But you're suggesting that people should look into VPNs? 

1000%. Yeah. 

Do what's your take on period tracker apps?

Because that's another thing that people are saying. 

Nope, Delete. Really?

Yep.

Delete them. Don't be tracking your 

It's an extreme stance I recognize, but if you are not paying for me for my data, I don't wanna give it to you.

There's some things, for example, any Google product you use, so Gmail maps, whatever, it's too late.

 Okay. You could. work your way off all of those things, but something like an app when they want to track that information, 

absolutely 

not. Nope.

 Especially in the States. If you're in the U S delete your period tracking app and get a red marker and a paper calendar.

Yeah. Nobody needs to have that information because by the way, they sell that information.

Yeah, they're not just mining it. They're using it and selling it. Yeah. And it's the kind of information too that maybe 

we don't want to be giving up that kind of information.

Speaking of period 

tracking, You must have read all the hoo ha this week  about the lead, arsenic, and heavy metals found in tampons. 

 I saw the headline and I went

no, I don't use tampons.

I'm a diva cup girl, 

okay, so the headlines, super alarming. I'm going to tell you a bit about where these headlines are coming from. I think it's important to know and we like to bring up interesting topics and try to add as much context as we can. We're asking questions from a broader audience. It's one thing to be a doctor and to read these studies and to be, fluent in, the science. We're average. I send emails, so  people are gonna ask these questions and if we can just find a little bit or at least prompt people to ask more questions, then I feel good about it. 

We're not out there being like, There's metal in your tampons! No. There was a study done recently, it found toxic metals in popular tampon brands. So these researchers found metals including arsenic and lead in over a dozen popular brands of tampons. So it's raised questions, obviously, about menstrual hygiene products in general.

that are used by millions of women. The study was published  in the scientific journal Environmental International and there's a growing body of research about chemicals found in tampons but it's believed to be the first that specifically measures metals. Okay, next thing, we know there are negative health effects of heavy metals.

It's well documented it can damage the cardiovascular, nervous, and endocrine systems, damage the liver, kidneys, and brain. It can increase the risk of dementia, cancer, and harm maternal health or fetal development. This team of scientists out of Columbia University and Michigan State University examined 30 tampons from across 14 brands and 18 product lines.

So they did not name them in the study. And they found that  there are toxic metals in these. So I went and read the study do you know what  my first reaction was? I was like, that sounds right.  This segment should be called, we're all gonna die, cause we did this last week, and we talked about microplastics in semen, sorry, sorry to Kaitlin's mom but I said it was a great reason not to swallow,

My mom said thumbs up. She gave a thumbs up.

I think we might have a new segment called We're All Die.  

most

of us are gonna die. Half of us are gonna die.

Women. Okay, I had to go check out my favorite Vag Doctor's opinion, Dr. Jen Gunter. 

You don't know Dr. Jen Gunter? I feel like we've talked about her before. She's based something in the States now, but she's a Canadian OBGYN.

Oh, Dr. Jen Gunter

You, we're going to read her book. 

It the Vagina Bible? Is that what I said I was going to read? Yes. 

Yeah. Yeah, so that's her. Here's what Dr. Jen Gunter has said. There are so many clickbait, fear filled headlines about lead and other metals in tampons. Remember, scaring women about vaginal health is highly profitable.

I evaluated this study in question, and there is no cause for alarm. Okay? Everybody breathe easy. Dr. Jen Gunter, who knows the most about all this shit, It says there's no cause for 

alarm. Okay. 

No. So let's follow what she says.

Many plants accumulate metals from the soil, which then of course ends up in the plant, like cotton for tampons, but kale, tea, and cannabis. also accumulate metals and yet there are no scary headlines. The amounts of lead, arsenic, and cadmium in tampons do not pose health concerns.

That's a big statement from a doctor and that's just one doctor so I think we all gotta keep reading about it but I thought this was interesting. I like giving multiple perspectives. In addition, the extraction method in the study is not how tampons are used. Your vagina doesn't douse them in nitric acid and bake them at 180 celsius for over an hour.

So it's always 

was a heat dome. 

So I think that's really interesting because We see the study and I think we all need to take the extra step and go read the study and try and understand it as much as you can. You can also copy paste the study and put it in chat. GBT is a great use for chat. GBT.

This is where technology can be really helpful. And you can say speak to me like a fifth grader and it can explain with varying degrees of success. Dr. Gunter continues, We don't know if the arsenic, lead, and cadmium in tampons can even get into the vagina, never mind be absorbed. But, again, there is less lead in 75 percent of the tampons tested than in 200ml of green tea brewed for 2 3  Did you catch that?

Say that one more time about the green tea.

There is less lead in 75 percent of the tampons tested huh. Then in 200 milliliters of green tea brewed for two to three minutes. So we have scary headlines

So scary, that made me think, oh great, there's literally a bullet in my tampon. 

my badge.

Yeah,  Keep picturing like an HB pencil When they say lead, that's, I think of like lead snapping. Remember when you like accidentally poke it in your, never mind. 

When you get the pencil in your hand.

Yeah, and then it's like grey. 

So Dr. Gunter has a substack of the vagina. And she had some other doctors chime in as well. I will link to it in the show notes.   I actually have a writer who's doing, who's currently working on a piece right now and she's like, why aren't people more upset about this?

And I was like, that's a great question. And maybe that's why.  So let's examine that.

Because 

the headline maybe is not fair to the actual study.

It's factual.

But it sounds so 

bad.

It does sound so much, it does sound so much worse.  But here's what actually is alarming.

The complete disregard for women's health in research, women are traditionally not allowed in drug trials because of our hormones. They'll, air quotes, mess it up. We will skew the 

is that why they don't want women in medical 

medical trials? There's a

misconception that we skew the results so badly because of our hormones, so they just don't do anything about that and just exclude us from the trials.

Our dosages, Transcripts are based mostly on male patients. It has been scientifically proven that women experience more adverse effects from medication because of this. Here's a fun fact for you. Erectile dysfunction is more studied. than women's health.

Erectile dysfunction on its own is more studied than all of women's health. 

Yep. Oh god. 

Fun fact yep.

In

2020, 1 percent of healthcare funding, other than Oncology was directed toward women's I'm glad we get up in arms and we're like, holy shit, there's lead in our tampons. I'm glad we're doing research on 

it.

Yeah.

I think we just need to do more. We're gonna have imperfect studies. But overall we just don't really give a shit about women's 

a shit about women's health. In 2020, 1 percent of healthcare funding other than oncology was 

You got 

Josée just mentioned a book called The Invisible Women, and it was a really great book. I'll link to it in the show notes. It is A tough read but a good read if you're interested in this kind of

Okay, I'll look into that. That makes me, you know how we say gasoline?

Are 

it's a very short segue, but we say now even gasoline is unleaded, right?

It's because it used to all have lead in it.

All gasoline had lead in it. So now the big advertisement is this is unleaded. And you're like, it's all unleaded now. I just think it's so funny that they're like, yeah, but this one's unleaded and you're like, they're all unleaded.

In this 

Uh,  marketing is crazy. They just convince us we need something and then we buy it. 

Lead in chocolate? 

Hi,

this podcast is here to ruin your 

day.

No, I think we need a new, we obviously need a new segment that's called You're Gonna 

going to Die. 

Yeah, 

and someone's out to get 

to die. I think, so is sunscreen gonna kill me?

This is a movement right now that's happening. , TikTok influencers and whatnot are saying, don't use sunscreen.

 I'm tired.

called the anti sunscreen movement, 

So there's a name it has a 

It's a movement much, much like everything else that's important in life. It 

Oh my god, so I I can't put this clip on tiktok because then everyone will come

they're going to come 

for 

us 

there. If this goes on influencers with the anti sunscreen movement and that they're stupid,  please engage and write a comment. Let us know what you think. They're promoting the avoidance of sunscreen,

Why?

citing unfounded claims,

Are they actually unfounded? Like we have this claim that there's metal in tampons So there's something to it that we need to check more into.  Are they really unfounded?

So they're saying that sunscreen chemicals are cancer causing. 

everything causes cancer. Yeah. I just wanna cover

And their big fight, sun causes cancer. Oh, that should 

And they're also worried that because it's potentially causing vitamin D deficiencies.

if you wear. Sunscreen, do you not get the vitamin D from the 

You absolutely do. Yeah.

Sunscreen blocks out UVA and UVB rays. As a result, but it doesn't block out all the UVA 

no.

no. My, my sun spots can attest to

Absolutely. So we are getting enough vitamin D that we can through the sun.

For  

Um, I had to get a shot this year. I had a UDI got a hormone test done for the brain stuff. And , there were lots of things going on and  the doctor looked at the results and was like, you have. 

No vitamin D. So I had to do a series of injections to get it going and then she's you need to take this shit every day.  Duh. Yeah.

But you also have to wear sunscreen.

Yes. I, yeah, I'm a sunscreen. You wear 

Every 

day, 

every week. I didn't

wear sunscreen until I was probably 22. My kids wear sunscreen every 

day.

Yes.

Yes. Yeah. I wear sunscreen now more than ever but then there's also this trend of people who were using sunscreen strategically to do contouring.

No. Yeah. No.

So what people 

were

doing

is that they were putting sunscreen in very specific places on their face so that they would tan or burn in other places.

So they were using it as a contour. 

 You guys need

to get a hobby. you are not stressed out enough in your life. You are not facing enough in your life that you have time to strategically place sunscreen on your face to have a contour effect.

for those who don't know what contouring is, 

it's the idea of, you would highlight often where you would contour is the cheeks, right? So that it looks a little more hollow, I guess the size of the nose, your, the bridge of the low, the nose looks thinner.

People would put it around the forehead and then under the chin area. Contour areas.  So they're putting sunscreen wherever they don't want the contour to go.

So if you look at a picture of a 45 year old two decades ago and you look at a picture of a 45 year old now, the difference is not Botox or lasers.

It's that the 45 year olds that exist today are Wore sunscreen. 'cause Baz Luhrman told us to

it. Wait, remind me? Oh 

remind me, I do know what you're talking 

about, 

but what is the, 

it's this. It's a song. 

Yes. 

Wear sunscreen, jump in the ocean, hug a turtle. 

wear sunscreen.  If I could offer only one tip for the future,  sunscreen would be. It  does. The long term benefits of  by science.

so, 

Science! Science! Okay obviously, this is the thing. People get their panties in a bunch they get really set on an idea.

We are set on the idea that sunscreen is better for 

us. 

They are very set on the idea that sunscreen is not good for them. We are not going to convince them. 

But I would say if you're like, oh, those are interesting points from both sides and you don't know, go read your favorite doctors who are well supported by other doctors of what to do.

All of mine still say wear 

sunscreen. I have family members who have had skin cancer and you know what it's from? The sun. Not a single person I know has gotten skin cancer from wearing sunscreen. Obviously that's an extremely anecdotal piece of evidence, but it's something.

And so here's another sunscreen question for you. Sunscreen is also It's very expensive.

So I'm looking at families where they have to make a decision on what they're buying for their households. And is it groceries? Is it medication? Is it supplies? And sometimes sunscreen doesn't rank on a necessity.  And if you see how expensive it is to have sunscreen, to use as much as you're supposed to use That's also a concern of mine, if, it has nothing to do with the anti sunscreen movement, but if the movement was also like, we need to make it cheaper and more accessible and have sunscreen available in parks, the way we do dog poo bags  it's something that I also worry that the people who are then going to get sick and get skin cancer are those from low income families.

Yeah, that's true. Apparently not anymore because of this movement.

No, this movement is going to change everything. 

Maybe when there are these trends or there are these movements,  they're loud, but maybe it's 

small.

Maybe it's small, and maybe it's just a few people on TikTok who are loud, or people on 

And then they all fight with each 

each other. Yep, and then it goes away, and then there's a new thing.

Oh, absolutely. There's a whole cycle. There's a writer doing a piece for hard copy for our style section on it's a touchy topic, but how We can't we got to stop shitting on fast fashion and That we need to be more thoughtful about it because it's all a lot of people can afford It's actually fast fashion is what most people can afford.

Clothing is really expensive. And so it's is it an elitist thing to say that fast fashion is garbage? And that's a touchy one to dance 

around because 

obviously fast fashion is fucking terrible, right? But the cost of just existing as a human, 

clothing can be very expensive.  who are making hard choices  they don't have the luxury of thinking about the  

Mm 

The environment goes  to the wayside, 

Maybe it's a privilege to say you should really be buying from local and, 

Local is expensive. Expensive. Did you ever go to the farmer's market for your groceries?

to the farmer's market 

Okay, you're buying cherries. Jesus, Caitlin. I'm

the asshole. You are the asshole.

asshole. But cherries are super expensive right now because of the big frost we had in BC this past winter it's affected all the stone fruit production. 

I did not know that. So that's jacked the

price 

price off of things like peaches, cherries, plums.

And it means that wine will be affected as well. I'm so sorry 

Yeah, the food industry is fascinating. It's something I wish I knew more about.

I enjoy reading books about How bad and evil the food industry is, but that's more like how we all decided that cereal is a nutritious breakfast, and like the history of the last 30 years that kind of took us to that point. I thought that was all really 

fascinating.  that is interesting. 

Scary things about food. I don't 

know 

if you're sorry. This episode is so far really just a 

You might die.

 I drink my coffee black. How do you take your coffee?

Splash a heavy cream if it's around, but if it's not then 

black. 

in our house we also use a lot of oat milk, almond

milk.  

Nut 

milk is made up. That is not milk  I don't hate on nut milk. I used to enjoy nut milks. I think it's great and a great alternative for people who enjoy that who can't have milk. I wind up just suing lactose free for one of my kids and 

I. 

But it's, honestly we would look for it and most of the time It would have some gum or sugar in it.

And so I was like, is this really a good substitution? And for my goals, no.

Why did you bring that up? 

According to Health Canada, there was a massive recall of almond milk, oat milks and. non dairy alternatives.

Good! 

Because

Get it off the shelves!

found listeria.  Traces of listeria in this oat milk. So if you use oat milk, if you use almond milk, whatever it is.

I actually don't judge you. I just think it tastes fake and I don't like it. And most of it has sugar

It's pretty sugary and now it also has listeria.   So far only nine cases have been found in Ontario, but it is a Canada wide recall.

Oof.

I would 

recommend, 

facility in Ontario.

yes, 

Who Don't tell me it's like Maple Leaf Foods or 

something. No.  Aww. 

Sad.

I know. But dole's bad too.  

all 

bad. 

They have fruit and they're like, D'oh! Wait, do

But do you know how Dole got the fruit?

How did D'oh get the fruit? 

They took the land.

Oh my god. 

The Dole Plantation is in Hawaii and they they just took it. They just showed up and went, ours now 

what year was this?  Okay, there was a lot of that, guys. 

We didn't do so great in North America.

should I say what the actual brand is that got recalled? 

Yes! Yeah.

What are they gonna do?  Say, Don't say our name on your podcast that a thousand people listen to! 

There's some empty shelves out there if you use silk, oat milk, almond milk or coconut milk 

do appreciate in Canada we usually catch that stuff. We usually nip it in the bud. 

Yeah, so it's the Silk brand. If you're not sure, if you have it in your fridge, you can check if yours is 

part of the recall. Some of it is, some of it isn't, but it's worth looking into. So don't drink it. Oh, also, I heard this week. Do you ever eat shredded cheese?

I shred the cheese, but 

but yes.

Good for you. you know why 

you shouldn't 

buy? 

We're so lazy.

We're so lazy. We buy bags 

of 

shredded 

cheese.

I get it. I fucking get it. I love 

But get this.

no,

There is wood pulp in packaged shredded cheese. Cause if you, Put cheese that you've just shredded in a plastic bag and put it back in the fridge.

It will rebind Okay, so they're putting wood pulp  To stop the clumping and help cheese fall freely through the hole  this is specific also this is mostly like It's grated cheese. It's parmesan cheese

If you guys are eating shredded cheese You're ruining the forests.  

You're killing 

trees.  

So there's wood pulp and cheese, there's listeria in silk almond milks. We're all going to die. Isn't that just something, 

Speaking of food, funny food things. Do you know what a glizzy slit? I can't even say it. Do you know what a glizzy slit 

is? 

me. My mother is here. What is a glizzy slit. 

Can 

say it?

Glizzy slit.

Yeah, it's the area around the tip of a hot dog where it's casing twists into itself.

 I almost spat my water out. 

out. Glizzy slits

Excuse me, I have to Google something

are integral to the first and last bites of a hot dog.

Absolutely they are! 

And reminiscent of pruney fingers after a long swim. That, my friends, now you know the tip of a hot dog. Those are glizzy slits. You can use that trivia  and entertain your friends around the campfire.

So if I were to order a hot dog, I could say, can you please cut off the glizzy slits?

Oh my god. 

And I want to, I want a fresh end, no glizzy slits on my hot dog,



That's why I love a pogo. It's mostly it's well, actually in a

pogo, you're denied half, half the glizzy slit because it sticks in there.

You're welcome.  I'm for the, 

my 

fun facts. Speaking of glizzy slits, there was a giant phallus shaped iceberg floating in Conception Bay, which surprised the residents of Dildo, Canada. 

no,  

really?

Yep. In Newfoundland. There's a place called Dildo 

in

Newfoundland. And in Conception Bay, there was a penis shaped iceberg floating by the town. And I have a photo of it, and I will link to it in the show notes because it brings me pure joy. There you go!

Oh my 

god. 

Oh my god. That's phallic.

 Yes!

That's what the headline 

says!

A penis shaped iceberg.

It's perfect. And then it collapsed. That's a metaphor. , I thought that was really good. That was published in Live Science.

Where did you, where do you get your news? Where did you find that?

I'm not telling 

Show me your algorithm.

Speaking actually of hot dogs 

Where do you go from here?  dogs. 

It's summertime. 

Yes. 

Let's say

We are hot in here. We are 

we are, we are, we are slowly melting like a 

know. We Look good like 

glowing. Yeah. 

I'm kind of dewy. You see a dog in a car.

Oh. 

Can you smash the window and save the dog?



Ooh. I think yes. Here's what, here's the thing. If

There's so much context to it,  but if the dog is like still alert and upbeat, I'll probably call someone and check. 

If that dog is clearly  listless. If the dog is clearly in distress. I would have a hard time not smashing the I don't know. I don't know.  to save a dog. But they fucking deserve it. But  

the CBC did an article about whether or not you should smash a car window to save a dog because a dog recently passed away in Calgary and a woman was charged after her pet died after being locked in the vehicle for hours. I'm so mad 

Yeah, I hate her. So she's being charged. With animal 

Good. 

and animal 

abuse. It's one count of causing damage or injury to an animal. She's also been charged with one count of causing an animal to be in distress. And she's also going right to hell, as far as I'm 

concerned. 

But what do we do when we see that? And they were asking some lawyers, what are you allowed to do?

What technically are you allowed to do? And they interviewed a former prosecutor. In their 44 years, they said they've been a prosecutor for 44 years, they've never charged anyone with this kind of crime.

For smashing 

a window. Here's the thing, 



That's right, yeah. They say it actually happens more than we think, people smashing a window to save a an animal. 

And the reason we don't hear about it is because the police refuse to charge in that scenario because they see it as they're doing something morally right. 

Yeah. I do

Yeah, 

I would absolutely smash a 

window.

Yeah.  

But it was interesting to hear that there is a gray area here. That it's because of morality they don't want to put civilians in that situation to be like I'm not allowed to help because if I help I get in trouble.  Some electric cars now have dog mode, so it's on the screen in the car, you can leave your dog in the car and it says, Dog mode, this car is being air conditioned for the dog. 

Okay.

Which I think is 

Yeah, with an electric car, you can do that. Sure.  Josiah is just telling us about this mom who, had her kid in the back of her Tesla, had it on AC mode, went to return the cart at a grocery store. Which I totally get, you got logistics as a mom, that's gonna happen, and if you've got the AC on, that's pretty cool. But Jose was saying the battery died.

And the kid was fine, the mom couldn't get back in the car, obviously had to call for help. Jesus. 

I I wanna leave my kids in the car, but that's just stu Like, you just gotta take your kids out. It's hard, it's annoying, take your kids out. Don't take your dog in the car. Bad news

Yeah. Think about what you have to do that day and just go, maybe they can stay home. 

And it's, but I also don't have kids, so I don't know what it's like to have to go grocery shopping with two children.

Terrible, but also entertaining. Depends Depends on the way you look at it. Depends on how many edibles you going?

What you buying?

Give them a 

Babies are hard. I don't know. Older kids in grade school, less

challenging. They, 

could even 

help a

little. I remember the weight of the the car seat. The baby car seat. And the baby in it. It'd be like, you're like, hooked. 45 pounds on your arm, trying to like It was a lot.

And just, and the only way you're holding it is because your elbow is 

bent. Exactly.

Or you gotta get the carrier on and the thing. But also, this is just life. It is tough to take your kids places, but I actually saw something very hopeful.

U. S. track star Allison Felix, who has many medals to her name, has established  The first ever nursery for Parents competing in the Olympics in Olympic Village.   So this is actually, a historical thing.

This is really exciting for the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris where I will be playing beach volleyball on the normal person cam as discussed in our first episode. If you haven't listened, go listen. TikTok cam. Somebody do it. Somebody do it. 

It I think I'm gonna do the long jump, I've 

beside you. Oh my god. 

I will be beside you sipping something effervescent out of my cup. So this will be,  the First ever games to achieve gender parity.  

Yep, unbelievable, 2024, first time. And now the International Olympic Committee has also announced an expansion of services for athletes that could change the game, which is the first ever nursery.

the nursery is gonna provide a comfortable and convenient Environment for athlete parents to spend time with their babies and young children during the 

the games

Love that.

It just makes sense make common sense more common 

Parents competing, we should think about what they need. So the nursery includes  designated space for childcare, as well as things like diapers, wipes, and other essentials.

  The advocacy of Allison Phoenix, who is the most decorated track and field athlete in history  was instrumental 38. Like what a fucking legacy. I do nothing. 

A few years ago, the Olympics were giving out condoms. 

Also

a good thing. We know what happens in the Olympic Village, and we're all just jealous we're not Olympic  

all just jealous we're not Olympic athletes. Dude, of course! These people

Dude, of course! These people are like, the most prime specimens. It makes sense to me. 

Absolutely. No shame. 

Maybe they didn't get the condoms last year and now that's why there's all these babies and they have to have

Duh. 

I love that the idea that there would be a play school or a nursery for in Paris for the Olympics why not if there's a beer garden?

Why not? I also have a nursery

I fully

 Oh my god, speaking of sports. The ESPYs were on . Did you see the sick burn?

So I saw the ESPYs were on and I went, Okay, cool, the ESPYs are on, but I did not see anything about it.

I know that Conor McDavid was nominated for Athlete of the Year. 

Was he really? Did he win?

No.

Okay, you ready?  So go ahead and enjoy women's sports. You want any other sports? Because they are sports. Except you, Harrison Butker.

We don't need you.  Isn't that fantastic? 

That's

great. Harrison Butker. You suck. Harrison Butker is 

the speech. He's the

one who 

did the 

commencement speech. And he taught, he suggested women our purpose was to stay home and it would be better if we stayed at home. You gotta show your mom this speech.

It must have been like a Christian college or something. I don't know that for a fact. It had to be.  the nuns don't like him.

Quinta

Brunson and Venus and Serena Williams were on stage and this is their schtick. And my favorite is, Serena makes that comment and Brunson, you can just hear her at the end. She's like, at all, like ever. It's so perfect. 

Good

for her. Also Serena Williams, what a woman. 

She has a documentary out,



but you can only get it on ESPN Plus, and I do not have ESPN Plus. So if any of you have watched it, please let me know. have done my digging to see if I can get it somewhere else, and I can't yet. So I'll be keen to hear if somebody has.

Because I bet it's exceptional.

They say Harrison Butker was at the 

ESPYs

He was there, he was in the crowd. 

He 

there. 

Yeah. 

Good. 

Yeah, and my only feedback is the producers did not cut to him when she said it. It does not cut to him and that's so lame. Be like an award show. Give us the 

drama.

Yeah. 

Damn. Oh, I know.

Oh, that's so good. I love that. Don't look up Harrison Butker's commencement speech, but look up Serena 

Williams 

speech. That's worth it. 

 

So Elon Musk is planning a little Martian city. He wants to have like a million people on Mars, and I don't know if this would surprise you or not, but Mr.

Musk has volunteered his sperm to help seed a colony

I just felt that in my head.

 that would add to the 12 children that we know of. That he has.  He and Nick Cannon are really nervous

about population. yeah. 

They're taking a page out of those three guys from Quebec. 

Oh, okay. I have not watched this.

It's on 

Netflix. That's a different guy.  I know. Okay, so Caitlin and I in a previous episode talked about père sans enfant, which I thought meant dad without kid, and she let me know that was dad with a hundred kids, which all went down in Quebec.

By the way, somebody on TikTok was like, could you have done that without shaming Quebec? And I was like, Caitlin is from there, and no. Fuck 

off. No.

I'll shame any province I want.

Anyway, so this one on Netflix, go look it up. 

different

guy? It's a different guy!

When I saw it on Netflix, I went, Oh, they finally 

translated 

You

have to watch it in French. Which  was entertaining for me because I only speak very broken French. 

Are you for real?

This is a different guy. I think maybe in Australia. Oh yeah. One dude, I only watched the trailer clip questions about it He was flying somewhere to go do these sperm donations like multiple times 

you're right. This one on Netflix is the Man with a thousand Kids.

That's more than these three dipshit brothers

Yeah. It's a group of families learned that a charismatic man they had trusted as a sperm donor to hundreds or perhaps thousands of other children across the world. What on earth, 

Man with a plan.  is it a financial? And we know for our Quebec boys, it was not

it wasn't 

situation. Would love to learn 

more. But for this guy, is it that he wanted to be, a father to a thousand kids?

What's the deal?

Oh, I can't believe there's more, and that to me says there's even more like this out there.

 

script. Starting August 12th, you can stream the heartwarming musical, The Last Timbit.  

 That's the most musical theatre student in Canada thing you could ever say. From

the producers of Come From Away

to Honour.  

great show!

Great 

show. It's the renowned Canadian musical, The Last 

How can it be renowned if it's not out?

It was on 

stage for a bit and they filmed it. So it was a very short theatrical stint they did at Toronto's Elgin Theatre, and they filmed it, and they're gonna put it on Crave, and it's a musical

The Last

called The Last Timbit. 

I love it. 

I believe it's about a group of people who get stuck at a Tim Hortons during a snowstorm.

Cute.  That's charming. Kind of

of

Ripping off Come From Away. 

Sure. If you got a good idea, roll with it. More

than 

than once. Oh, I wanted to tell you. What? I'm into Bridgerton. 

You did it! 

I

got 

got into 

it.

What 

season are 

are you on? Okay, here's the thing. I started season four.

Oh. There's no season four.

Then I don't think I like Bridgerton. No, I'm kidding.  No, I started season three then.

season. The most recent one. Penelope and Colin. Yes. Okay. So I just started watching a random episode.

Oh, that's an interesting strategy. 

know. I know, but I had to 

just 

in.

That's good. 

I gotta say, I liked that episode. Now I've gone back to season one, episode one. And I'm into it. I like all the things you said I would like about 

it.  

Things don't matter. Everyone's in a ball. Everyone's dressed nicely. there's still a thing of the woman has to be married and the man has to marry, which I you gotta have some rules. But it's just, it's beautiful.

It's sexy. It's dessert for the eyes.

The first season, I really enjoyed the Duke. It's good.

It's very 

good. Yeah. 

And it gets saucy.

I'm loving it. Yeah. Yeah.

Good. Okay. it took, it took me a while. I was really like, I don't know, I don't see the point. I don't really get it. Yeah. I'm into it.

Do you watch TV all the time though? No. No. No. No, me neither.

No, and that's why when I do sit down to something, I want it to be something that I 

Yeah,

We sat down the other night, and the show I wanted to watch was not where I thought it would be, so we didn't watch it. And we watched instead, oh my god, A Man in Full. Have you 

watched it? Oh, 

Jesus. It's on Netflix. It's Jeff Daniels. Good cast. Diane Lane's in 

in it. 

Love 

her. It's six episodes and it was, I'm not recommending that you watch it.

So there are things that I watch that I do not recommend that people watch and I would not if we had not watched it all, I don't think we would have gone back to it.

Okay.

 What I do recommend, everybody's talking about My Lady Jane right now, which is on prime.

Mhm.

It's fine. It's good. It's like a period piece with modern music, 

I don't even want to compare it to Bridgerton, but it definitely falls in that category.

It's really good. Lots of people are watching it. I've made it about halfway through. Totally into it. The lead guy is actually in another show that I would recommend. Either in addition to that  or instead of My Lady Jane, which is a discovery of witches. So there's a novel There's a there's a trio of books called a discovery of witches, which are fabulous I love them it into a TV show one of the minor characters, edward Bluemel. He's a minor character in A Discovery of Witches, but the male lead in My Lady Jane.  It's great. There's great sexual chemistry. It's very romantic. It's goofy. It's silly. It's fun. Totally recommend. And go and watch the three seasons of A Discovery of Witches.

 A Discovery of Witches came out in 2018. The internet tells me you can watch it also on Prime. First go read the books. They are exceptional. I devoured them. 

The books are written by Deborah Harkness, 

And also, Long Island Compromises out, which is Taffy Brodesser Agner's novel, and it's great. I got it on Tuesday and I finish it on Wednesday.

Really? It's so good, yeah. 

Yeah. Speaking of

books, how did your book giveaway go? 

It 

Really good. By the time I get this out, it'll be done. It was really good. It's fun. I love giving away things for 

for free. 

It's 

things to do.

favorite things 

indigo, I'll waltz into a couple of local shops if they don't have it available.

people shame me for saying I get my books from Amazon, but sometimes I get my books from 

Amazon. 

okay.  

I usually try and get them used. People will try to cancel us now. Don't buy things from Amazon!

I do sometimes. 

Where do you get your books from?

Yeah, bookstores.



I like walking in and seeing what speaks to

me. 

Yeah,  I love a bookstore that's both second hand and new books.

 Sometimes I want a new book. I want a fresh new book.

Sometimes I want to know what everybody's, what all the hubbub's about. And I want to support, I, listen. Authors love when you get their books second hand, but they also make money from your initial sale.

Their rating and whether or not they get another book deal comes directly from whether or not you buy their book. 

Compromise is a great follow

Nope.  I mean, I'll have to now that you said it now I'm like, Oh, I must  

is this new damn book by Jane 

Fonda

Get your shit together I  seem right. On brand. No, that's on brand. She's 

what can I do?

Lot of the time it feels like nothing, Jane. 

She has an audio book out now that you can hear her tell her the 

story. 

Yes, 100%. That's my favourite way, one of my favourite books of the 2022, 2023 was Jessica Simpson's.  It's fun to hear them read it, it really is. There's a few, Minka Kelly's was surprisingly good. 

There's a podcast called Celebrity Book Club,



where 

Oh, they're so good. 

I 

funny, right? They will read  the autobiographies, they will read them for you and then tell you the hits and tell you what was great about it.

So you get a taste for it. It's really great.

Yeah, they are They're  very entertaining. really funny.

 

 One of our friend's birthday is coming up by the time this podcast goes to air and we're going to celebrate our good friend the way that she is. Women should celebrate, which is at the spa.  And I really like the idea of celebrating a birthday with an activity like that. 

Doing something fun,

something kind of pampering and experience. Yeah. I'm going to another birthday party where it's a theme birthday 

Oh, yeah. 

What kind of a theme?

Alice in Wonderland 

 We 

have 

to 

dress 

up.

Are we bringing psychedelics?

But this is my thing.

Because it's Alice in 

I'll bring

mushrooms. But I'm not putting on a damn top hat.

No, you can wear like a super cute corset and a little 

little bow

Where 

Where will I 

I find those things? 

closet!

Oh my god, it's such a pain.

May I 

time of the year is this though? 

Oh. 

I just don't think, if you're inviting people to a party, that's enough. That's enough. I 

don't like being told to dress up. But  

But it can be fun! It's silly! Your introvert is 

showing! Yeah.  Oh, but you could dress up as one of the the queen!

My mom said I should just wear a name tag that says C. S. Lewis. Okay. Okay. Okay.  

Your mom's a comedian too. Yeah.  I think 

I think

I'm just gonna tape some cards to me.

Ooh, that's such a fun idea. Just do two 

cards. Two cards

I'm 

and one on your vag. I'm gesturing to my nipples. I'll put

a 

queen of heart on my heart. I'll put a joker on my butt. 

 what are you even?  Because it's gonna be hot. That's the thing. It's one thing to have a costume party in the winter or even halloween. It's a little cooler

know what's funny? I don't dress up for Halloween. 

That doesn't surprise me all 

ha 

you're

ha. such a grump. I'm such a grump. Aren't It's so fun and stupid. I don't want to because I feel stupid, but then I have a great time

But what Did you get dressed up this year? 

Yes, I also have children. I do the basics. we have a costume box.

You do?

Yes. One year we went as the Incredibles.

Your whole

Yes, and it was really 

cute

That is cute. 

They were really into superheroes What were they this year?

They wanted to be creepy. So they were like a creepy witch and a creepy whatever we did all the creepy makeup and I went as like a creepy witch and I had a little goblin baby in a carrier Which was 

You're such a good mom, you went all

out. 

Not a good mom, but I'm just doing it. 

 I get a finite number of Halloweens. I get a finite number of spring breaks. I get a finite number of summers. With them, so it's not that much to ask to go do it. Also, when I didn't have kids I used to do, I used to love dressing up as a slutty Cupid or a slutty nurse or a slutty witch.

Oh my god, 

that was fun! 

me one bit. 

When else could I wear a corset and people take me 

Right, and I have to sometimes wear a corset for work. And I go, what a 

pain. You do? 

I've worn a corset before for a part in a movie.

but didn't you feel so hot? I think they were 

hugging you. No, I 

couldn't breathe. 

garment, but also so 

hot. 

Your boobs are like up here.

Yeah, I was choking on my boobs. Speaking of acting work, I have a show coming out on Netflix.

It's called 

The Chicken Sisters. It's coming out starring Leah Thompson, Wendy Malek.

we talked about her at Love 

Yeah, and also starring Skylar Fiske and Genevieve Angelson, 

and 

she's been  posting photos of you.

Yes.

She's so cute. Cute as 

Oh 

button.  

She's so 

She also seems nice.

She's so nice, but she's also funny 

And she's 

punky and Genevieve Angelson, Skylar Fisk. It's going to be a great show. It's called Chicken Sisters. It's coming out this fall on 

I'm

I'm 

really 

excited. Yay.

 going to be fun. People who have seen the pilot say that it's funny and it's heartfelt 

and good, 

multi generational women and families.

So it's got a. Steel Magnolia's kind of vibe, but then it's also weird in a small town. So it's got a Schitt's Creek kind of vibe  One of the directors we work with was Paul Fox who directed Schitt's 

Creek No 

and the other director was Kimmy Gatewood who directed glow 

and 

girls 5eva 

So it's gonna be great.

 So is it episodic? Did I say that right? 

Yes, it's episodic. 

going to be eight episodes, but 40 minutes each. 

I will binge it

I play Shauna  

I've seen your costume 

I'll play, I'll play a woman who knows everyone and I can do everything. 

Yeah.  My full name is Shauna Faye Beth Calhoun on the show. And I love that my middle name is Beth as in not short for Elizabeth, 

but 

Beth. 

That's awesome. Yeah.

Oh, you must be so excited. And then when does the one that our other friend is directing come out?

And then there's a movie called the 12 Clues of Christmas that Lucy Guest directed. She's an incredible director here in 

I'm obsessed with her. 

That's a

christmas movie, it's wild we shot it In the middle of summer. Everyone's just running in snow suits through pretend snow in the middle of July. It was a hot one, 

and it'll be out on Christmas. I hope we can stream it.

me too.

But it also means that starting next week I'm unemployed again.  

That's the thing, right? As soon as the show is over, once it's wrapped, you go right back to the drawing board. 

to Montreal for a little bit, go see 

my  Downtime is important. I think we can't always be like, producing, can't always be working. I think taking your paid time off, taking your vacation,  not always working on the weekends. It's really important. Yeah. You gotta just enjoy

while I've been working so much I don't see a lot of friends.

I'm making a point to go, I'm working. And that's my focus. 

When you have acting work and you finish acting work and it gets out there, will you get more inquiries?

That's the plan.

That's

the, goal. That's 

the plan. 

Space Cadet was the dumbest fun summer movie on Prime, starring Emma Roberts.

Tom Hopper. We were talking about men I thirst for, and they're all tall blondes.

We're all googling Tom Hopper right now.

It was so bad, but so good. Tom Hopper, he looks like the Canadian dude, Justin Hartley.

Yeah, 

looks 

Glenn

Powell. Who 

Who looks Jensen 

 Ackles.

Ackles. 

They all look the same to me.  All delicious. And tall.

Would you recommend The movie?

If you're looking for something fluffy, fun, silly, uplifting, pretty predictable, yes. And you get to stare at Tom Hopper. 

Desi Liddick. Yes.

Oh

She's on from the Daily Show. yeah. Yeah, she was on the, 

she was a correspondent on the Daily 

Show. 

Desi Liddick plays this uptight type A  doctor. She's our worst nightmare. And she does such a great job, she's hilarious in it.

So there are some really funny bits. Gabrielle   She's not well used in the film.  You remember in Pitch Perfect where they have the commentators? And they have the whole bit? They could have done more of that with Tom Hopper and Gabrielle 

Union. 

they could have done so much more in the control room or in the office, like it could have been so much more.

But also rom com.

Okay, I'm gonna watch this. I love it. And also, Desi Liddick. We should be supporting her more.

I love what she's up 

to.

Party on. YOLO. 

Em. Do you know who says YOLO? No one anymore. Not a cool thing to say, but it's very much the energy I want to bring to 

life. Can

you ask your kids if they use the word RIZ?

That is in their lexicon. It is.

Yes, as well as  Sigma.  Oh no. out your gyat for the Rizla. 

You're so skibbity. You're so phantom tastic. Kid, random shit, that  kids sing and do, and it becomes really trendy. So I call them YouTube kids. These are kids who get on YouTube. My kids don't get to go on YouTube, but, That doesn't matter, because when something is such a cultural phenomenon, , kids start saying it, they bring it to school.

So this kid at school was singing it,  and so now, they're like, they would sing the song in the car and I had no idea what they're talking about. So this video of just the beat, with this kid's voice overlaid has 500, 000 views.

Okay. Okay.

The first comment, this is what happens when you don't supervise your children.  

Six million years of evolution and we have this.

the We're still here.

Screwed.

I think often there are things that trigger us, right? That we're like, Oh, I don't like it. Or you're like,

it's Riz triggers

well, Cause I'm like, Oh, kids. It's not even a word. And in reality we had to stay curious and go, that's Oh, interesting.

Words are just made up. Especially English words. That's nonsense. Okay, so here's one thing I want to tell you. We, in life, go through life, things trigger us, right? Yes. This could be a trigger. A trigger is often in the context of Mental 

illness.

You know, we never used to say trigger either. 

 would

be It's a relatively new use of the 

term.

It's meant to be something that brings on or worsens a state. I heard a term this week that I really liked, which is the opposite of trigger, which is glimmer. 

Oh Jesus, Caitlin.  

you can go around the world and instead of looking for triggers that affect you, start looking for glimmers that affect you.

And a glimmer is like anything that just gives you a nice little feeling. It's a little glimmer. So it's like a bird singing. Or cooking the perfect fried egg.

My only comment on that is why do we need to name everything? We're like Tomato Girl Summer. It's a trigger. Like why do we need to name it? We need to name every trend or name everything. I don't really know. Just fucking,

I 

Everything has a name. Emily, do you want to hear a little guide to glimmers? 

I feel like you're going

to tell me anyway. Okay.

A glimmer is the opposite of a trigger. They're tiny moments of awe. They spark joy and evoke inner calm. They have a positive effect on our mental health.

They're micro moments causing tiny mood shifts. They send cues of safety to our nervous system. They bring feelings of ease and contentment. Our body responds with positive energy. They allow us to feel hope when hope is lost. Our nervous system is strengthened by them. They can help increase our well being.

And once we start embracing them, it can become a beautiful way to see the world around you.

Yeah. I love that. I think that reminds me, that makes me think of gratitude journals, present moment, optimism and just like trying to see the brighter side of life.

That, that's hard to do a lot of the time. I don't know if you notice with the world's falling apart a little bit, but  📍 I think that's great. Great. I love 

it.

It's either that or I talk about politics. And I Glimmers. We'll go for glimmers,  

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