Do you like my pencil case? pencil huh. It's so cute. Do you

want to see what's in it?

in it? I feel like you're going to show me whether I want to see it or not. 

It's pencils. 

pencils. It's a 

and a pencil, but it's a mechanical pencil and then backup lead.

Oh, you're so organized.

I know. I have one of those but it just has my tampons. 

Or and like lip

I don't use tampons.

I free bleed.  Put me on a pile of hay and come find me in four 

days. Oh my   📍  

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I'm unfortunately still dealing with the ramifications of going viral.  I wish I didn't have feelings about it.

Maybe it's yeah, no, there's no good spin to that. What? You don't want to go viral? Isn't it nice? Isn't it nice?

For who?

I don't know. Isn't that the point?

I think, I just wish I made money so I could pay  a social media manager to deal with it.

How do you make money doing a podcast? And I'm asking you, which is the wrong person to ask, because we're not doing it right.

We haven't asked anybody to sponsor us, really. You pitch brands. You put a media kit together. You pitch brands that, might be a good fit. That said, hard copy the blog and the newsletter.

I had inbound requests for sponsorship. I've done two this year, which is I'll take inbound. I don't have the capacity to go out and pitch, but that's what's got to happen in 2025 for our hardcopy

media, including

this 

including this 

I have 

one brand in mind that I think would be a really great fit, but I need to get my shit together and put together a really good case of like, how I help solve their problems.

 You're whoring yourself out.

you're saying I have something that's going to fix your problem.

Yeah, I think, or introduce you to a new audience. Brands want to grow or establish themselves in a certain way. And that lines up with different media brands.

we've had lots of conversations, but only two that fit. one was a social sponsor and one was a newsletter sponsor and they fit and I get to be picky for the time being until I get an alert from my bank here, but I think that's really important to me. I don't want to just make a media brand that's like schlepping shit.

I don't believe in never going to happen.

  📍  We're coming into the new year and I've decided I'm going to make some sort of it's like a vision board, I guess.  and I've decided I'm going to work backwards.

From?

Okay. This is going to sound crazy because I'm an artist and I do comedy and I do improv.

I have a hard time imagining things.

That 

does sound kind of

I know. 

Oh.

It's hard to go, okay, think of what could happen. And you're like I don't know. 

I 

that surprises me about

 my brain just goes I freeze a little bit. And so I've, but I found a hack to it, which is that I'm going to, I have to figure out what at the end of 2025 am I celebrating? And that was somehow more concrete for my brain to understand.

I love that. I think, what am I trying to accomplish? What do I want to feel? What result do I want to see? I love that.

for me it's, it literally is what am I celebrating in my self, in my career, in my home, in my relationships.

Those are great categories.

Have you started?

I made the categories. Very good. Yes. And now I just have to be specific and say, you know, it's not just like, oh, okay, so I get season two of the show comes out. It's like, no, no, no. Season two of the show is a great success. My character has some wonderful arcs.

I am relaxed on set and Being really specific about what I'm celebrating.

Yeah, you're, in the woo woo sense, you're speaking it into 

Yeah,

I'm all for that's the woo I can get into. You're

making me think about goal setting.

One thing I had to do in my career in tech was goal setting all the time. That is what operations is.

How do we make the machine run and how do we measure the success of the things that we're doing by starting exactly how you're describing and saying, here's what I want to see, feel, or experience. Then you get to decide. What are all the ways I can get there?  You want to define where it is you want to go. And then you get to choose the path to get there.

Okay. I like that.

Which is what you're describing with the vision board. Everyone right now is going to be talking about intentions and New Year's resolutions and that kind of stuff. Great, I'm all for using a new month or a new year to set yourself some

Yeah.

I think I want to talk a little bit about goal setting. I have a article  on the hard copy blog. So in this article, I talk about

what are some ways to do that  with varying degrees of difficulty.

 First of all, what gets measured matters.

If you are not paying attention to something. it will not change. , if you want something to matter, You have to keep track of it. So that's just a general goal 

Huh, yeah, okay. 

 The idea is that great goals lead to better performance. Simple, but there is so much to it. Yes, there is an art, but there is also science and discipline around it.

Toss in a seemingly infinite number of frameworks and methodologies to set goals, and it's Easy to see why some people don't put in the time to do it. So there's a million different ways.  There's SMART goals, OKRs, BHAGs. The list is like literally endless. And so you're talking about vision boarding as well, which I love.

 I want to talk about four different approaches to goal setting.

Okay. And also I'm going to say this. I'm not married to the vision board. I'm more like, I want to set some goals that I retrospectively have celebrated. I 

that. It doesn't have to be, I don't know that I'm going to be clipping up magazine pictures is what I'm

Oh, but I love that.

I know, but I don't.

I've tried lots of different things. Vision board is in your face. So I do love that. Like a vision board you have somewhere where you work often. I do think that is a powerful reminder. my first and most simple approach, which 2024, was picking a word of the year.

My word for this year has been discipline. Which I am weirdly not great at. I was, and then I lost it. Yeah,

yeah. But that's why you made it your word.

Yes, and figuring out what that word is, reminding yourself of it, writing it down in your daytimer, figuring out what it is to you, it might be patience, it might be movement, it's something like that, where if you're not a big goal setter, but you want to have a theme, Picking a word that kind of defines that might be your thing.

A nice, straightforward, simple way of focusing on something for 2025. A mantra. A mantra. That's even better. A phrase. A word or phrase. Here. There you go. One I've also done in the past for goal setting is my less or more method.  This is 2023, I wasn't in the mood to be super intense about anything.

And I tried this approach, I made it up, and I'm sure there's some like actual method somewhere. But here's an example of 2023 notes. Less cardio, more strength training. Less processed food, more fresh produce. Less screen time, more reading. Less talking, more listening. So stuff like that. So I actually have a chart on this blog, on the post page.

And I

categorized it into eight dimensions. So physical, intellectual, emotional, social, spiritual, vocational, environmental. So there's a chart there you can save and print out if you want to write it out. But it's like slightly more intense than Word of the Year. But not too crazy. It helped me think through what I want to do.  A lot of people will do these big books, like booklet or workbooks. And so I would think of this or categorize this as long form questions. So a thorough reflection on the past year and then thoughtful questions about goals in different areas of your life for the year ahead. So memories and milestones, the question will be, what are your significant memories, milestones and turning points in 20 in whatever the year was.

Reflecting on last year. What were the lessons?  What was your level of satisfaction across these different categories? So just a more thorough reflection. If you're a writer, a journaler, you might want to take the time and do a longer form reflection. So that's one approach. And then my super spice level.

If you're a business girlie or you're an MBA girlie or you're operations or in any organization that has unfortunately tried to adopt  OKRs, then this is, I use them a ton at work. I have used them in my life before and it was helpful. There is a whole process and specificity.

That's a great question. OKR stands for Objectives and Key Results. In businesses, they're often set quarterly, but you can flex because you're you and you're in charge. In general, you set lofty objectives and set very measurable key results. So an example, in a personal life.

Objective, reduce friction in marriage by creating consistency in managing life administration and finance. That's fucking lofty in my house.  Key results may be things like, concrete, we've created a budget together. Two, we've designed a monthly approach to financial management and kids scheduling. And three, establish quarterly review with financial advisors.

 What are the concrete things we're going to do to Concrete key results. We're going to do is achieve that lofty. Oh, that lofty objective. So there's a whole methodology and read a ton about it. There's lots of free resources as well. this year,  personal life, probably I'm going to do a word of the year and my more or less method.

For hard copy, which includes this media property or podcast, I'm probably going to do both the long form questions and OKRs, which I haven't done yet. I haven't really pushed things in high gear with the business, but it's a fucking business now and I

it is. 

Are you going to do this before the new year or will you do it in the new year?

Before the new year, December this month. Yeah. I think I'd rather go  into my holiday. With a deep breath and be like, okay, here is my downtime before I go into fucking execution mode because I'm not very consistent. I think that's a problem. 

That's

why I chose discipline is my word of the year for this year. I am too used to bending and flexing to the whims of others and not putting the business first because of my role as mom and partner and friend and daughter. And I would love to, all I want, I love to work. I love to work and I miss working the way I used to work.

I will never be able to work the way I used to work. That's just a reality. And I've really tried it on for size this year with hard copy, and I want to keep going with that. I'm going to rock it.

it. Yeah, I love that. Okay, I'm going to do, I like that more and less.

Yeah, I'll send you

More and less? More or less. More and less it is, right?  

You're right. It should be and. Less of, ex, and, more of. Yes.

 The possibilities there are endless. And then  into those kind of eight different areas of life. So they'll put the link in the show notes and that way you can all have access to this PDF.

But I do think, I'm not really about resolutions.

 either. I'm Like,

let's move forward.

also have, I'm good. 

 Some

people really get off on that stuff though, like that is very motivating to some people. And I love that. But I've always said September is my new year. I don't feel like January is a new year to me.

September is always been the beginning of the school year. Has been like my reset.

Interesting.

So I don't put a lot of pressure on January.  Putting a ton of pressure on something is not my way forward. I think it is for some people. No. That does not solve anything for me. It moves me in the opposite direction.

I'm learning. Slowly.

Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pick a word too. 

I want to share when I've worked on some of my, on my working backwards from Celebration 2025, I'm going to share a few.

Yeah, will you tell me? Will you share them?  During a pandemic there were a few of us, we'd get on a Zoom and kind of talk through it. 

I don't  know. I'm good.

You just shrunk by an inch when you made that noise. You just got smaller. If you

have 

to get on a fucking Zoom call, or a Google Meet, or a video meeting, I die a little on the inside. Absolutely. I spent So many years doing it, I don't want to look at little faces in a square.

Do you know that I used to perform on Zoom and teach classes via Zoom and do corporate training via Zoom During the pandemic, actually our business took off. The comedy school did really well because we could

Work with people that weren't just in Vancouver,

Mhmm.

right? We were like suddenly like we had classes happening in New York and Toronto and Montreal and LA. And we had clients that weren't just in Vancouver. We had different kinds of I won't name them, some in the UK that we were working with.

Some that

do a lot of corporate stuff? Mm hmm. I could see that being actually so much more engaging than the other Yeah. Infinite, terrible things we've had to do in corporate culture.

Absolutely. 

It blows my mind how I'll say this in a and our corporate training is more like, how do we work with? Yes. How do we work with positivity? What does active listening really look like? 

don't know her. 

I, there's this quote that I say whenever I teach a corporate workshop, which is and when people don't get the exercise right, I go, okay, here's the thing, guys, listening is not waiting to speak.

 And they look at me like I've just grown a third head. And they're like, what?

But yeah, a lot of corporate training, a lot of managers who operate mines.

In the interior, we'll come down and we'll be like, okay, all you managers, what do you do when someone asks you for a raise? Or, 

That's really cool. You're teaching people interpersonal skills.

And it's all through improv. So it's also about there's no right way to be, but like how do we prepare ourselves to be open and flexible?

essentially what I do every Sunday night at the Sunday service.

I fucking love it.   📍 

Did you hear the very happy news I want to start with happy news

No

what, 

Notre Dame Cathedral has reopened.  

I hope it looks exactly the same.

After the devastating fire in 2019, they held a Beautiful reopening celebration where eight of the cathedral's church bells were renovated and blessed before their reinstallation in the North  

Bless those 

been a long restoration, but it was done in the time, in the five years that Macron said it would be done.

And the sound of the church bells has filled these European landscapes for more than 800 years, and so very wonderful Very cool.

I love that. I have some beef with Paris, but I think it's cool that they brought that back.

the restoration of things is an interesting bit of business.

Yeah, for me, Paris is a city that hasn't changed much on purpose.

They've made it really hard to add anything modern or new. Paris, Paris was flattened and then rebuilt to look a very specific way. when you think of cities like London that have Old neighborhoods, but then they still have cool, modern 

yeah, a mix, 

a mix.

You walk through Paris and you're like, this is all Paris, which is great. But it's very French to be like, no, we're not changing.

But I love that! That's their culture! And I appreciate places that have strong

It's their culture, but their culture is not flexible.

I'm fine with that.

Yeah. I wish Paris would have a little bit more like variety  

Okay.

honestly. They flattened the city,

rebuilt it,

that's why they have the Art de Triomphe and all that jazz, gorgeous. But then, every arrondissement, every little neighborhood in Paris looks the same, on purpose.

See, I don't find that every arrondissement

 looks the same.

You do? 

think it's the same kind of four stories.

Same architecture.

And even hosting the Olympics, they didn't change

much. they

were like, y'all can swim in the 

Swim in this. God, those Olympics were, I think, some of the silliest Olympics in history.

it. You know what we could use? Some fucking silly. Yeah.

but, of course, it's like the Parisians were like,

Oh, we did a funny Olympic,

what I mean? Like, The

the rain for the opening ceremonies. It was a, what did you like? Careful,  silly, and just a bit like, yeah. And it's not silly. It's it's just it's a mixture of corny and pride,

Corny pride.

You want to know some more corny and pride? Did you I 

not think that would be a segue,

I don't know, I'm gonna make it one. Okay,

This is my favorite headline that I've read in ages.

It is an absolute Literary scandal. McCarthy's secret muse breaks her silence after half a century. I loved him. He was my safety. When he was 42, Cormac McCarthy, who has written one of my favorite fucking books, fell in love with a 16 year old girl he met by a motel pool.  Augusta Britt would go on to become one of the most significant and secret inspirations in literary history, giving life to many of McCarthy's poems.

Most iconic characters across the celebrated novels and Hollywood films. For 47 years, Brit closely guarded her identity and her story until now. And there is a massive fucking article, a beautiful shot of her in Vanity Fair.

Whoa.  Is Cormac McCarthy dead?  Okay. Wow.

Yeah.

And what are people, are they mad? Are they outraged? Are they 

I would never.

your take 

parent? After going viral and having the internet be in the comments, I no longer feel comfortable stating my opinion on anything.

it.

Okay, a  42 year old man, that is my partner's age, falling in love with a 16 year old girl.

Guys, it's not unheard of, it happens all the fucking time. Honestly, men in positions of power, or with some semblance of power, call it a musician, an actor, a whoever, they date very young women. This does not shock me. I am not surprised. I think because he was an author, I had a different idea of the type of person he was, even though I don't know him, I've never met him, all of those things.

But I had a different idea of like a  

Yeah.  

a creative man. Fuck it. I like, sorry to be like, they're all the same, but they're all the fucking same. 16 year old girl at a motel pool.

It's very Lolita.

 I'm using that now just as a, as a. Verb. It's very Lolita. Okay. Are we used to it? That's it. We're just like, okay, I guess it happened

Disappointment

for sure

Yeah, it's just a deflation, right? We just feel like, oh, now I'm just a bit deflated.

There's a really great story about her life. And, they interview some of his family, they interview her, and  yeah, am I disappointed? No, I don't have a strong, I'm not surprised, is my feeling.

I'm so curious about the timing. Would I feel differently if he were still alive? Yeah. How do I feel? A 47 year secret? I mean, respect. Like, I 

We should trust that woman with secrets.

People parade themselves and their relationships around

 For

PR purposes, this is a, different, Story.

And I think that's why it gets a piece in Vanity Fair. It's interesting, because apparently she was quite an inspiration in a lot of his work. But Jesus fucking Christ, she was 16!

I'll have to read. Speaking of reading, I haven't bought this book, but I want to buy a book. Carnal Knowledge, Sex Education You Didn't Get In School.

Who wrote that? I've heard of this.

Zoe Ligon.

Did you get any sex education in school? Did you get the condom on a banana?

Excuse me?

Did you get a condom on a banana? No. Oh, I definitely got that.

No, I did not get condom on banana.

Anyways, this woman Zoe, she has an Instagram. This is how I found her, was on

See, you have to do it.

My friend told me to find her. Anyways, don't yell at me.

anyone want to manage my social media for free?

gonna like this, Emily. She goes, she's known as the dildo duchess.

Savage.

Yeah. her handle is Thonguria.  Which is great.

I love good handles,

I do

Oh, that's

And she is a very sex positive stunning woman who kind of rates and reviews sex toys.

That's amazing. What a great community service.

And so she wrote this book called carnal knowledge and it's about progressive, positive and constructive sex tips and ideas from one of today's most popular sex 

Hell 

Yeah. So

There's so much garbage out there. Yes. Remember the stupid fucking articles we'd read in the old magazines when we were teenagers?

Oh, like in like old cosmos.

Let's not name it because they've come a long way, but yes.

yes, but for a while it wasn't that.

Put your finger in his butt.

 So this is a book that's also paired with beautiful photographs. And the photographs are done by a woman named Elizabeth Renstrom. Of different things.

Like?  

positions. Yes.

Oh, okay. Cool. Like

that.

Not

Like the joy of sex, but for the modern 

Yeah, Yes, exactly that. And it's the philosophy that there's no one right way to have sex. It focuses on intimacy, body positivity, and self care.

Honestly? There are times.

where it would be just as intimate if we laid there and you played with my hair. 

Yeah,

That would be more satisfying sometimes. It's, I love that. idea of there's no right way to have sex. That's so accurate because I think certainly men and for a long time, women, men, I think believe there's one way to have sex and it has to be like huge and powerful and blah, but I think

both people

orgasm, which anyway, I think  a lot of us women would have that same idea, but would also be more curious and open to reading about stuff like this. 

That sex can be satisfying Without Climax, sex can be a lot of different things.

Yeah. This is a video of RIA right now, just jiggling a bunch of dildos above her head.

 very funny.

I'm obsessed

Isn't this great?

But what a wonderful way to take the intimidation out of it. it's so funny watching those videos, a lot of the women you would see in ads or promoting those types of products are very intimidating, very, thin made up, very cartoonish looking almost.

And I like that she's not demystifying, but like taking the ridiculous. Yeah.

This is a video where she's curling her hair with dildos 

Other than the rubber, I think you'd get a nice girl.

Yeah, and the joke is that it doesn't stay in. So it doesn't get a very good review.

Anyways, Thongria, T H O N G R I A.  she's great and it's a great sex ed book. I haven't read it yet. I'm going to go buy it at my local bookstore. That's right. I'm going into the bookstore. I'm saying, do you have this book? And if they don't, I'm going to ask them to order it for me.

  📍 

Emily.

Yes?

Are you a bread person? Do you eat bread? Yes. Yeah, me too.

there was a time I gave it up. 

It was a lonely time. It was sad.

What's your favorite kind of

I love sourdough. 

Oh, so good. 

Actually, I'm making a loaf at home. Right now as we speak.

You

a bulk rise.

I don't know how to do that.

I'll teach you.

I don't want to know how to do

Okay, I'll bring you some.

I will eat it.

That's the problem. But that's actually okay. Good news is that if you toast your bread, it has a lower glycemic index to it.

Stop it. That sounds fully made up.

Absolutely true. That sounds made up by bread 

No. Spearcy theory,  Let me put a little asterisk. This is only for homemade bread.

So

we can't actually measure or figure out how bread companies make their bread in order to have this study work because you don't know how long they've been fermenting, what is the rise, what is the temperature.

So there was a study done at the Oxford Brookes University the objective was to investigate the impact of freezing and toasting on the glycemic response of white bread. 

And 

And it turns out that if you toast, if you, let's say you free, you make your bread, you freeze it, you take it out, you toast it, it has a lower glycemic index than if you just ate bread.

It changes the bread.

Huh.

Now ideally what you do is you do freeze it, then thaw it, then toast it, but they're saying even just toasting it will change it.

Interesting. That's great for the homemade bread makers, not the rest of

buy a loaf of bread at a bakery.

Oh sure. So it would work there. More like you're talking like the more commercial stuff you'd buy in a grocery store. I see. That

about that plastic that has a little tie on it. Yeah, no, I'm saying

I go buy a loaf

If you go buy a loaf, you get 'em to slice it, you throw it in the freezer, and then when you want bread, if you toast it.

It it won't peak your sugars.

this. This is good news. 

Good news for bread eaters.

say, but when commercial store bought bread was used, freezing before toasting did not improve the body's blood sugar response. It could be reflecting on the different ways in which commercial bread is made compared to homemade bread is made, the ingredients used, or the way that the loaf is cooked and then cooled.

Evidence is not completely clear on store bought bread. But, homemade bread!

Now we know.  Fuck me up.

I know. I love that kind of good news about bread. Yeah.  Okay, you have a piece of toast in front of you. It's morning. What are you putting on it?

Peanut butter and jam.

Or peanut butter and banana.

Ooh, good. What kind of jam?

Strawberry.

Yeah? Okay, I'll go raspberry.

Ooh, yeah, a little tart.

Yeah. 

tart. Or cottage cheese.

I can get down with that. Do you gotta like, drain it a little bit? Cause otherwise it'd be too 

wet.

No, you just get high fat cottage cheese.

The real stuff.

Yeah no. I do the whole high fat dairy thing. Yes.

Hello, I am broad. I do full 

Big

girl. Yeah, it just tastes fucking better, too.

I saw a snack that I lost. I can't stop thinking about it.

It's a piece of sourdough toast,

Cottage cheese. And then what's that fake caviar? That's just, it's just row to beco. 

Asking the wrong girl, but yeah, sure.

And then just that on top. So it's like salty and like fishy and crunchy. And then the saltiness of the cottage cheese and the crunch of the toast. You can 

anything on toast. I like the idea, if I'm gonna do a cottage cheese, I would want peaches and walnut.

And honey.

Oh.

I just made that up. A bunch of different textures. 

Okay.

I think we should get together and have a little toast party, where everyone 

We should eat things. Okay.  I'm a lox girl.

Oh, me too.

Oh, speaking of snacks. Jesus. Oh my God. She's excited. You said lox and I lost my mind. Okay, think of a waffle.

Okay. 

But

think of a big waffle, like big,

a Belgian waffle?

Okay.

Slice it along the the waffle

lines. We're suspect, okay.

Okay, so now you have like lines of

In one of the holes you put cream cheese, in one you put smoked salmon, and in the other you put capers.

And then you fold, and each little square divot, and then you eat the whole thing.

That sounds like a real mouthful, but I like it. I could do that.  And with a little sweet waffle.

That's what I'm saying, like you get like the waffle and then it'll cream cheese smoked salmon capers, right? could eat smoked salmon every goddamn day.

know. Same. 

There's a lack of good places to get a breakfast bagel in this city.

Agreed.

I just want a place to go get a really good, I want to be like a New York bagel.

Oh, I mean you can't.

You know what I mean? 

I like how they do what they how much cream cheese and smoked salmon they'll put on a bagel

I like the smoked salmon bagel on Granville Island. What is the place?

I know what you're talking about, the deli.

Kayserak.  Deli. Kayserak Deli.  their cream cheese and smoked salmon bagel is pretty good. I get it on everything bagel, so it's extra stinky. And they give you a pickle.

I love a pickle! Oh my

god, I'm salivating so

I know. I'm drooling.   📍  

I obviously need to talk about AI, as I always do on every single fucking podcast. A BBC reporter successfully bypassed bank security systems, by using an AI cloned voice authentication, demonstrating what is obviously a significant vulnerability in voice ID banking. So banks have recently started to use more voice ID, but hello, with AI that doesn't work.

Cause like anyone could listen to this podcast.

record it and take our voice. So the voice clone was generating using, in their case, radio interview audio samples. Basic audio playback through consumer devices proved sufficient. In this case, the cloned voice gained access through phone banking's My Voice is My Password feature working effectively even with basic iPad speakers.

Success required using registered phone numbers, so they needed other information. The success of it using basic consumer hardware indicates voice biometric systems actually lack the robust deepfake detection. Like it's not a sophisticated system.

Oh, I see what you're saying.

you're saying. Yeah. Multi factor authentication becomes crucial. And so that's where they're like, do you want to set up 2FA? Yes, you do. You always do. That's my tech 

Two F A. 

Two factor authentication. Yeah, you logged in because you have the password, but also,

We're going to text your phone.

yeah, we'll text your phone to make sure it's you or you can use there's code generators as well. That's my tech tip for you. If you have an application that you're using, it says, do you want to set up two factor? Yes, you do. You do. Annoying. But helpful.

And so the banks, in this case, the bank's own voice ID systems failed to detect synthetic speech patterns because AI is pretty sophisticated. And the banks rely on registered phone numbers as an additional security layer. But this proved insufficient against device theft scenarios. Banks have implemented layered security approaches beyond voice authentication.

But initial access grants visibility to transaction details which then can enable social engineering attacks. So voice authentication systems. Not ready. They're not, they're no longer able to deal with AI voice clone attacks,   I was glad that this BBC reporter went in and did the dirty work because instead of us just arguing about it online and being like, it will work, it won't work, the reporter just went in and did it.

So set up your 2FA on your applications, especially with things like your bank. Or whoever would have access to things like your social security number because that's where you get in a big trouble. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I forgot to tell you that my segment about bread to toast was actually called For Breader or For Toast. Is that a pun? I

I don't get it. For breader? 

Or

for toast? For better or for worse?

That is a stretch. Is it? I think so, but I'm of medium intelligence. But

I wrote for breader or for toast, and then I had a little chuckle to myself.

I was like,

For,

That's good. It's not though, right?

. Change that sour dough look on your face. 

Oh, wait! I have an album to tell you about. Oh,

you're releasing an album!

Pfft. No. Go find the artist Don West. first, his voice is fantastic. Okay. Very, just Musical music, very sexy  jazzy, like old timey music sound, but he's a real human now and he's so hot.

Oh my God.

We were all like, okay, google Don 

 Don

West music. Oh my God. 

 I believe they call that a barrel chested man. He's a big dude but he always wears sunglasses, which is suspect. 

But

then you hear his voice. Holy 

It's

funny 'cause Joseis saw the picture and her response was, it doesn't do it for me.

Yeah. A crooner does it for me.

I heard his voice first.

That'll do it for me.

Oh, okay. 

Unfortunately, I like a singer.

I

wish I was into drummers, 

I like that he's got a face that looks like he's been punched.

He does look like he's been punched. He looks like an arrogant son of a

a bitch.

but that fucking, he's got the long shaggy hair.

That'll, honestly, that's 

He's got a car, he's got a Disney Prince Chin.

You know what I mean? Like a big square.

He's the kind of person that if your friend was dating him, you'd be like

Don't, but do. A little 

Anyway, regardless of his appearance, yes, I'm objectifying him. His album, he just released a new album,  it's called, hold on, album, is it called Rather Be Lonely? Don West. It's his EP. Oh, excuse me, his EP. It's an album. He's from Australia, and there's six tracks, it just released the end of November, and it somehow made its way to me.

They call it R& B, and Soul is really

His album cover is a painting of him, for sure. but without his face. he's wearing no shirt. He's got these thick brown pants and there's a cowboy boot peeking under.

And I'm sorry, but if I had to type, that's it. Yeah. With a big tattoo. Oh Jesus.

I hate to say it, but the minute I saw his picture, before you said he was Australian, I went, this guy looks 

guy looks Australian. No  I didn't catch that in any of the songs. I listened to

to. Oh, yeah. There's, you know how some, sometimes you just, you get a hint and you go, I bet you he's Australian.

And then you said he's from Australia. I was like, yeah, there it is.

He looks like a douche. 

He looks, like a guy I once, I think I told you, I hooked up with this guy. I was celibate for like a year, which was a long time back in the day for a 23 year old.

And I hooked up with this guy who kind of looked like this, but not nearly as hot and couldn't sing nearly as well. And I just remember him being naked, playing his guitar. And singing to me at like two in the morning and feeding me almonds. I remember this. Anyway, that guy gives me those vibes. But that guy couldn't sing like Don West.

God, you gotta write a 

You and

All of my

should write a book.

I would, I did think once about writing a chapter for every male encounter. But I don't know. I don't want it. At the time it made sense, but now I'm like, they get enough attention.  The only way I would do it is if I was like fucking shaming them for something stupid they did, but then that's not holding myself accountable.

you know what, maybe I think too much. I should just do it.

 Yeah, just write some smut

But I think you might like his music. Very Saturday Night Sensual. They call it a Valentine to Vintage Soul. And that, that hits. It's a good EP. I'm looking forward to the full album.   📍 

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