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#187 From Tragedy to Triumph: Anne Marine's Journey of Faith and Resilience
Discover the profound journeys of transformation and resilience as Anne Marine takes us through her deeply moving story of faith. Growing up between the majestic Mount Shasta and Mount Lassen in Northern California, Anne Marine faced the tragedy of losing her father at a young age. Her candid reflections reveal how the trials of her childhood, including her mother's remarriage and the challenges of a blended family, shaped her path. Anne’s powerful testimony illustrates how her faith in Jesus Christ brought profound changes to her life, guiding her through adversity and sparking hope.
As we see Anne Marine's life journey, we encounter the complexities she faced as a pastor's wife, from navigating denominational differences to moving across states. From Denver to Berkeley, and ultimately to Omaha, each city brought unique challenges and growth. Anne Marine shares how her husband's career as a concert pianist led their family on an unexpected path, filled with both joyous moments and struggles such as marital counseling and dealing with depression. Her story is a testament to the intertwining of faith, resilience, and the strength required to face life's unpredictable twists and turns.
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The world doesn't think that the gospel can change your life, but we know that it can and that's why we want you to hear these stories, stories of transformation, stories of freedom, people getting free from sin and healed from sin because of Jesus. This is Death to Life, yo. Welcome to the Death to Life podcast. My name is Richard Young and before I tell you who's on the episode today, I want to tell you that there is stuff cooking with love reality. You know we're giving away the book Free From Sin for free. You know, we got podcasts on podcasts, but we can't do it without you guys. We can't, we won't. We'll try, I mean, but it'll be really difficult because your donations are what keeps this thing going and they're a huge blessing to us. We would not be able to be preaching this thing the way we are without you. So go to loverealityorg slash, give so we can keep this thing going forward. Every single dollar helps and we're just going to be putting out more and more content. We're not stopping. We're not stopping and we want to give it away for free, um, and we can do that because of donations, and so thank you guys. So much for uh, for doing that tonight, or?
Speaker 1:Today's guest is Anne Marine, and she has been such a blessing to me. Uh, hearing her story back when it happened blew me away, and she still is a blessing to me. Hearing her story back when it happened blew me away and she still is a blessing to me, and she just is a sweet lady whose life has been changed by Jesus Christ. So let's get into the episode. This is Anne Moraine. Buckle up, strap in Love y'all, appreciate y'all. Wrap in Love y'all, appreciate y'all. What was the first episode of Death to Life that you listened to? Was it Eddie's episode? I don't know. Years ago, it was a long time ago, it was a while ago. This has been going on for a while now.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, all right, three years today, a while now, yes, yes, all right. Three years today.
Speaker 1:Three years today. Yes, yeah, go ahead. I'm going to say we'll get to that point. I'm excited to hear, but where are we starting?
Speaker 2:Where are you going to take us to? Well, I did my testimony in a nutshell for a women's group, so I thought I would just do that.
Speaker 1:All right. Where do you start your testimony in your in that women's group?
Speaker 2:Um, I just started with my childhood, so, um, you know mom and dad, me and my brother, and then my dad died when I was three and my mom got remarried before I was five and somewhere in four and five, anyway. So just jumping right into the junk already. So you ready.
Speaker 1:I'm ready. What part? Where are you from? Are you from nebraska originally?
Speaker 2:no, california what part northern california? Way up, way up north, almost oregon, okay. So like I live between two volcanoes, there's mount shasta up north and then Mount Lassen is over there.
Speaker 1:And that's where you grew up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, little tiny town, no stoplights, didn't even have very many stop signs. You kind of had to take your luck when you got to an intersection.
Speaker 1:Mercy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if the road dipped then you were supposed to stop, but anyway.
Speaker 1:So how did your dad pass?
Speaker 2:Well, he was in the service and I don't know some kidney thing. He was released from the service for a health issue and then he got a little gas station um, one of the ones with the the orange ball. It says 76 on it.
Speaker 2:Way back yeah, yeah, I know that one so he he either owned it or just worked there, I don't know, but he had one of those, those little outfits and had the name tag thing and it just said Al, because his last name is Albie. But he just went by Al and if we went and visited him at the gas station there was a big jar of those dum-dum suckers. You know, they're just little suckers, so that's that's it as far as memory. I just that's what you got, that's what I got, that's what I got, yeah so then she remarried uh, how long do you guys live out there in california?
Speaker 2:I lived out there till I was married. But yeah, so she got married and we instantly had three more kids. So I became, instead of a firstborn, I was now middle child, because there would be three more older than me.
Speaker 1:Did you have any brothers or sisters?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have a younger brother. His name is Mike. He's in Texas.
Speaker 1:He's awesome, so this is kind of like a Brady Bunch style situation here. He's awesome, so this is kind of like a Brady Bunch style situation here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, brady Bunch, and he worked in San Francisco area so he was only home on the weekends. So it was my mom and five kids all week, and then he would come home on the weekends, kids all week, and then he would come home on the weekends and then he got a transfer up north.
Speaker 1:So that he could not have to do that anymore. Okay was, uh, was it? Was it a pretty good deal for your mom? Was she happy with all that?
Speaker 2:I don't know. My mom was probably never happy, unfortunately. Yeah, she had a lot of anger from you know, her husband dying and all these kids and she's not a kid person um, she got five.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lord, have mercy. Yeah, she's not a kid person.
Speaker 2:She she told me when I was like 15, she was like, get yourself a career and don't get married, which, of course, made me feel like, oh, you didn't want kids, did you? But anyway, what I was going to go back to as far as my childhood is there was a lot of abuse in my family. My stepdad was abusive and which made my mom really angry. So she got you know she was abusive and I was basically groomed before kindergarten to let guys do whatever they wanted to do, because I had it in. I had a pedophile in my household and my stepbrother was following in his footsteps too, anyway, so there's a bunch of junk, you know that happened, and so I was a very angry teenager. This is my nutshell version. Okay, I, I'm gonna go through it really fast.
Speaker 1:Take your time, tell us what okay well, I was a really angry teenager.
Speaker 2:My mom drug me to a concert. It was second chapter of acts concert.
Speaker 1:I'm really old what is second chapter of acts?
Speaker 2:yeah, you're gonna have to look that one up. Um, they were back um with the jesus freaks. Remember those guys?
Speaker 2:I've heard of the jesus freaks and um, okay, so the movie that just came out not too long ago, that was Jesus Rose Revolution, was in California, so all of that. But I wasn't a Christian, I was just anyway. She took me to this concert, second chapter of Acts, and it's a brother and sister. They were singing and they were just touring. They were nobody then. They were just touring in little tiny towns and they got to use the VFW Hall for free to do this free concert.
Speaker 2:And we showed up and, since I was always mad at my mom, I didn't sit with her in the back. I went and sat way down front, just sat on the floor at the front, and they sang their songs and the guy named his name is matthew ward you could look him up, he's still online in different places and, um, when he sang, his whole body got like really glowy that's all I can say and I I felt like Jesus was singing to me Right there, like the whole auditorium is gone. It was just me, and God you know. And so I left that place not quite so angry and I got a lot of Jesus freak music in my house. I got a lot of Jesus freak music in my house, and Barry McGuire was one, just a lot of people.
Speaker 1:Who is God at this point in your life? Now you're a teenager who was he growing up.
Speaker 2:Well, my parents my mom dropped me off every Sunday at church and me and my brother not the siblings, but me and my brother got dropped off at church. So we got to hear about Jesus, Sunday school and all that, and then we would walk to my grandma's house, which was like three blocks one way and three blocks another way, and we stayed at my grandma's house that whole time and she was like my refuge, because we would try to go over there as much as possible to not only get out of our house but just to be someplace positive. She was much more positive.
Speaker 1:So you went to church, but God, who was the God that they taught at that church? Oh, jesus, definitely. So it was good news.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:OK. Yeah, it was like a weird picture of like the father. It was just like Jesus loves me. This I know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and it was a little Methodist church. I was super close friends with the pastor's kids, um in my, in my, um high school age and then in that church they just up and moved the pastor whenever they feel like it. So yeah, anyway. Second chapter of Acts.
Speaker 1:That was good Kind of stopped you from being so angry. What was it about?
Speaker 2:that concert or what they were saying, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It was just like I don't know, I don't know, but it was good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was Jesus singing to me. It was all love. I don't know which song it was, even, but when I was writing this out for this other testimony, I went and looked him up and some of his songs were on and I know all the lyrics right now after how many years?
Speaker 1:because yeah, yeah. So after that the you were a little less angry. Um, how did how were things? How to go with your mom?
Speaker 2:oh, I moved out as soon as possible. Um, I wanted to go to church camp, um, with girlfriend, but she went to a Nazarene church so I couldn't go. But she had my pastor of the Methodist church take me to Bible camp. That was up on Mount Lassen. So I went to Bible camp for a week on a volcano but you don't think about it as being a volcano because you live there, you know. But our, one of our days was a trip to take the hike up to the melting, the bubbling pots of mud that are just like bubbling right there. You know, you can't touch them because they're too hot. So it was, it's dormant but it's still active, if that anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I met my husband up at there at church camp at 17. And I got married 21. Well, he was 21 by the time we got married. So he was one of the one of the leaders of camp. He was leading like the second graders and I was there with my guitar and I was leading music with this other girl and I shared her tent. What year was this? Well, I was 17. I got married in 78, so that like 76, 77 you got married at 17.
Speaker 2:No I got married at 19. Sorry, I don't know what I said 19.
Speaker 1:You got married in 78. My parents got married in 77. They were in southern cal California. You were in Northern California. So 19 and 21. And what was the plan? You just fell in love with this guy. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And he got accepted to Colorado University from camp no-transcript. So as a 17-year-old I went to my pastor's wife and I said, okay, my boyfriend might be a pastor someday. So what is it like to be a pastor's wife? And she said, oh, it's pretty much the same as everybody else. And I tell everybody she lied, it is not the same. A lie, yeah, lied.
Speaker 1:So what was so different about it?
Speaker 2:pastor's wife is on call and your kids are being watched and you have to share your husband with 200 plus people and you get moved around a lot.
Speaker 1:I have 32 addresses in my whole lifetime mercy yeah, so there's a lot of stress moving like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we used to move. Sometimes we would move like every six months. I didn't really had to do the. You know the whole spring cleaning where you take out and you dust everything and shake all the rugs, I put it back in boxes.
Speaker 1:I put it back in boxes. So what church, what denomination was he a pastor in?
Speaker 2:Okay, when we got married, we took like two years to try to figure out like he wanted to stay Methodist and I was leaning more towards Baptist. And we ended up in an American Baptist church because they gave him a job as the organist. He plays piano, he's a concert pianist.
Speaker 1:So he came home and he's like guess what we're? We're? We're Baptist because they gave me a job playing the organ. That's our new system of beliefs.
Speaker 2:Yep, and he was going to a seminary right there in Denver Um, I don't remember what it's called, probably Denver Seminary, yeah, I think that's what it's called. And, um, so we were there for a while and then we had babies and decided we needed to be back in California so we could be closer to grandparents. So we moved to Berkeley, california. Yeah, to finish up for all the people, the seminary was right across the street and catty-cornered to People's Park, which in Berkeley is where a lot of riots and stuff happened back in the day, and so there was a lot of leftovers is kind of what we called people who were homeless and they were leftover and so they lived in the bushes and stuff all around campus, the church, anyway.
Speaker 2:I used to take my kids out in Denver. I could take them out for two or three hours. I used to take my kids out In Denver. I could take them out for two or three hours, play, you know, their big wheels, whatever. We took out to the yard on campus. But in California, if I went out and there was people showering in the faucet or you could find needles in the grass, and then I would take my babies and go back inside Mercy, yeah, anyway, none of this is what I had planned to talk about. No, this is interesting to me. I'm just pulling this all out. I forget about these things. We went grocery shopping on campus in Berkeley by taking the little red wagon to the, to the library. They had a food pantry in the library on campus for the students and we could go in there and pick whatever we wanted. So the kids, of course, are picking cherry I'm not Cheerios, but those things SpaghettiOs and you know can any canned goods, and then we would haul it back to our apartment.
Speaker 1:So living the life of young married couple with kids on a college campus in Berkeley. Yeah, so what happened after that in Berkeley? So what?
Speaker 2:happened after that? Well, he got a job in Vallejo, california, and I was told my whole childhood don't ever live in Vallejo because there was a lot of riots in there too, but that's where we ended up Never live in Vallejo Okay. Yeah, we lived there for nine years Really good friends, my kids growing up with other kids, and you know that was really good. And then there was a church split and so we got a job in Nebraska.
Speaker 1:Lincoln, nebraska, nope, omaha, was it a Baptist church? Yep. And he was the head pastor Yep, what year was that?
Speaker 2:Let's see my youngest was two, so 96, 97, somewhere in there, so 96, 97, somewhere in there, 96, 97.
Speaker 1:Moved to Omaha Nebraska. What did you think about moving to Omaha Nebraska?
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, all my friends in California. They were like you're going to Nebraska. That's what everybody who's never been to Nebraska says Nebraska's got some nice things about it, yeah, yeah, and they thought that we were gonna have, you know, there was gonna be buffalo all over the place, or or we were gonna eat buffalo, actually, and the church women's group. The first outing that I went on with them was to Mahoney State Park and they have a little restaurant there, and of course, I had to order the bison burger.
Speaker 1:You have to have the bison burger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then I yep. Then I wrote back to all my friends in California and I was like, yep, we eat buffalo out here.
Speaker 1:So mid 90s you moved to Nebraska. How are things going with God? You have a strong friendship with him. You know who he is.
Speaker 2:A long time, but I did put. I did put in my, my journal. When I was thinking, when I was coming up on this, I put freedom open my eyes. It's all in the Bible. Even even as a Christian, you can't see it until you're free. So you can, you can read the Bible and you can know the Bible and you can be saved, you can have a relationship with God. But freedom is different. It is.
Speaker 1:So how are things going with the family at this point in Nebraska?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was good. I had three kids. I'm a pastor's wife, I'm homeschooling my kids. The guys, my sons, went to high school, but my daughter stayed home for high school. She had dyslexia and a lot of chest anxiety and she just chose to continue being at home and, um, yeah, so that was good. Then they started getting married and then comes the grandbabies.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of struggle in marriage, of course, and we had marriage counseling several different times, because my husband has a lot of depression, and I probably did too, although not not the same as him, you know, and anyway. So a week before our 40th anniversary, he basically told me he didn't want to be married anymore and that that, just that was it. He just without going into a lot of junk. It really blindsided me because I knew that we had issues and stuff, but I didn't realize that he just wanted out. You know, we were setting up a house to have his handicapped brother come and live with us and he was living with us.
Speaker 2:We had sold a house and and moved everybody, us. We had sold a house and moved everybody, and then I found out he had his own, his plan was to move into his own apartment and basically leave me there with a brother to take care of. And I was like no, and I just picked up and moved to Lincoln. My daughter's in Lincoln, my son is in Lincoln. I had seven grandbabies at the time in Lincoln, so I just Was.
Speaker 1:He still pastoring at this time and he's just like I'm good, we're done and we're going to be with the brother and we're going to be with the brother.
Speaker 2:yeah, he had told me about his hiding drinking for like years and um, which was one reason we were going to counseling, of course, and when it, when it all came down, he told the moderator of the church. So, like your board person, anyway, he told them that he had told me that and that pretty much ended things. It wasn't just that, but this board person said, since he was going to different groups, you know, aa or whatever that he didn't have to tell the church. So they didn't, they don't know or didn't know.
Speaker 1:Was drinking. I don't know the Baptist denomination. Are they teetotalers Like? Are they complete no drinking or is like drinking in moderation? Like what's their drinking?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you could drink. I guess I'm not a drinker. The big thing is deception. It's the whole lying. And he said that the reason he got married was so that he could be a pastor. He needed in order to be In order. He wanted to be married. He wanted to have kids. He wanted to be a pastor.
Speaker 1:So you get to Lincoln. How long ago was this?
Speaker 2:I got to Lincoln five years ago.
Speaker 1:So, but you guys were just separated, you hadn't gone through the divorce.
Speaker 2:No, I'm still not divorced, we're just separated. But I moved to Lincoln, I was getting an apartment and then I was telling my husband how much it was going to cost, and he said you should just buy a condo instead, because it'll be cheaper in the long run. So I have a little condo and I live by myself and um I that's the first time I ever lived alone Okay, so I decided that I wanted one of those little ring doorbells so you could see who's coming to the door. Right.
Speaker 2:And so I told my son about it. He said okay, get ahold of this guy. I just met him at some meetup and his name is Addison and he can come over and put your doorbell in. And his name is Addison and he can come over and put your doorbell in.
Speaker 1:So Addison came over and installed the doorbell and then Okay, I am going to bring on my friend, Jennifer Oliver, real quick. Jennifer, how long have you been rocking with the gospel? How many years has it been?
Speaker 4:It's been almost four years.
Speaker 1:Almost four years. What has the gospel done in changing your life, would you say?
Speaker 4:Definitely. Not having to live with the guilt and the shame anymore is huge for me because I lived buried in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's a pretty big deal. You've dedicated time, money, energy. You want this gospel to move forward. You want people to hear it.
Speaker 4:Why is that so important to you? Because I want them to just feel that free feeling of not having to live under that condemnation, not having to live under that condemnation, not having to live under that shame, and just being able to walk out your life the way God intended.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we love these people. We want them to experience what we've experienced in Him. Listen, if you guys want to donate because, listen, donations this is how we can continue to do this thing. We're not playing around when we say every single dollar goes to getting this gospel to keep moving forward you can go to loverealityorg slash give and partner with us. We desperately want to keep doing this and you are the reason why we're able to keep doing it. So go to loverealityorg slash give. Thank you so much, jennifer, for coming on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he was super nice, of course. And then we had COVID, and the next year I asked him to come back and put in. I decided that year I wanted the videos for my backyard and my side yard, cause I live right by highway whole bunch of apartments, and I just wanted to be able to see all the way around my house. So this time he came with his work buddy, his name is Eddie and um, you hadn't seen Addison till the for a previous year, okay.
Speaker 1:But you thought he was a nice guy and so you went back to him for business. And then he brings this guy, eddie, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Addison and Eddie show up and, um, I tell them what I want to do and they're like, okay, we'll we, okay, we'll have to come back and set up a time to come back. But Addison's trying to tell me all about his relationship with Christ and his business and he's telling me all this stuff and it's just like I wasn't getting it, you know, because I was still in my pain too much to really hear. He was nice guy and this other nice guy, and they're going to come back on a different day and put in all this video stuff. But Eddie goes Is there anything we can help you with while we're here? And I had.
Speaker 2:I had a table that needed to be moved to the basement and I said you could move this table down to the basement and they jumped, they both took that down to the basement and then they said what else can we do? And I said, well, if you want, that thing is supposed to be on this wall. And so they moved that. And while they're doing it, I'm telling eddie all about how I had left my church and I was going to divorce care, and this is what happened, and you know. So all this pain is just like what made you?
Speaker 1:you just he was there, and so you're gonna tell him yep, he's just you know, just sucked it right out of me, I guess.
Speaker 2:And then he kind of got like he got done with what we were doing and he went. You know that Jesus was abused and Jesus was rejected and Jesus was one other word I can't remember Betrayed, and that just took me right out of my pity party right then. And so the three of us prayed on my basement stairs. We're down in the basement praying and it was just really good. Okay, so they go away, they do whatever they're doing.
Speaker 2:And then I needed to go visit my mom and I was kind of worried about it and I had lawyers that were trying to do divorce papers, and visiting my mom when she's a was a really angry person and anyway. So I asked the guys to come back over and pray with me. They're the only people I know in town since I had quit this church that I was going to. So they came over and I told them that I had all these worries and all these fears and worries that were coming up. And Eddie said to Addison he goes. I got to tell her my testimony. So he lays out his whole testimony, including mugshot, and of course that takes me out of my worries too, because now I'm listening to him and Freedom and Jayla and all of that.
Speaker 1:What about him getting arrested? And you saw the mugshot? Were you just like shocked or were you?
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know him from anybody, I was just like whoa, you know, I don't know and I didn't even know at that point in the story that he had freedom. You know, he just kind of his whole testimony there. Anyway, then he goes, he gets done with his whole testimony, his repair, you know with Jayla, and everything's good, and then he goes are you ready to die? And I know I must have been shocked because I'm like I don't know. And he said in Christ, and I'm like, yeah, anything for Christ, I'm ready.
Speaker 2:And so I wrote in my journal that day I didn't know I was going to die today, anyway. So they prayed for me. They both put their hands on me and prayed for me and they told I had to pray. He told me I had to pray, so I had to pray to renounce fear and worry. And then we prayed for the Holy Spirit to fill me. And then he said what is the Spirit telling you right now? What are you feeling? And I said I have always felt alone.
Speaker 2:And I instantly had this, this like memory of hiding in the bathroom at my aunt's house and he said are you there right now? And I said, yeah, I can see it. I mean, you know I'm praying, but I can see it. It's like green tile and white porcelain and it's not a memory that I even remembered having. I know it's true, but anyway, we were outside playing. We had to stay outside because my cousin wanted to watch her soap operas. And my older cousin said he was going to put his you know what into my you know what. And my other girl, my cousin, said oh yeah, it's really fun, we should do that. And I freaked out and ran into the bathroom and I was just going to hide in there forever probably, and I don't remember leaving that bathroom. And so Eddie said well, jesus is with you and he's going to lead you out of that bathroom right now. And of course, I'm still praying.
Speaker 2:I'm still there and I said no, he's carrying me out of the bathroom Because he had, I had this mental picture or vision, whatever you want to call it of him like kneeling down in front of me as this little nine-year-old that's sitting on, sitting on the closed toilet, trying to hide, and he just said you are mine, and he picked me up and took me out of that room and that and I don't remember ever walking down the hallway or anything, Cause I was. I don't remember anything else and so that was it. That was, that was, I think I was stuck in childhood fear and I was stuck in childhood fear and I was stuck in whatever abuses that were had happened and could possibly happen again, and and he just rescued me, Anyway. So I was totally jazzed and that was September 17th.
Speaker 2:Yep, september 17th, three years ago, and I'm like crying. And all three of us were in my kitchen and they were both telling me about freedom. They were telling me how this is going to be, and if you start to feel something, then just know that it's not. I don't know. They just told me all kinds of stuff. But I remember that I I was, I started watching Jonathan, I started watching Dan Moeller, I started reading my Bible. I was like a month of just I didn't do anything else, I didn't go anywhere else, I just was soaking up everything.
Speaker 2:And I started going to your Bible studies. I went to every Bible study you guys used to have back in the day and day and uh, yeah, it was super good. And I remember being at one bible study and you and your brother in law elias is that his name? Okay? So you guys were saying something that I had never heard of before. We got the bible open and it's right there, black and white, and I've never seen it. Do you remember what it was? I don't remember, but I remember that I felt like the holy spirit was like right here, saying this is truth oh and that was, and I just, yeah, I just kept.
Speaker 1:We saw you in. You came and you hung out with us in the Grand Tetons. Yes, you've worked in the background for Love Reality these last three years. What has been the main difference in these last three years on how you're actually living your life?
Speaker 2:Just like a total awareness of God, holy Spirit. I mean, I started doing Bible study with Eddie and Addison before work, like seven o'clock in the morning. We had Bible study and a lot of terminology that I didn't know because they're in a different denomination than I'm, in which I'm in now, but I wasn't then. Yeah, oh, I should tell you that too, because one day Eddie calls me and he says we're going to Bible study and I was like, ok, he says it's a little church out by your house, ok, and he says it starts at like 530 or something, and I was in town. So I was like I'm going to be late. And he says it starts at like 530 or something, and I was in town. So I was like I'm going to be late and he goes don't worry, I'm late too.
Speaker 2:So I go to this little tiny church that has Eddie was there, j-lo was there, dana was there, and the only thing I knew about the pastor was that he was either. He said he either said freedom or he said truth. I don't remember which one he said, but he's preaching truth, let's say. So I go to this thing, this Bible study, very late. I sit in the very last chair right by the door, practically in the hallway. But it was so good and it felt like home, so I just instantly started attending that church. Even though I've never attended church on Saturday ever I just walked in and started going to that church.
Speaker 1:That was Pastor Mike, right, yep, yep. And now Pastor Dana's there and that's a wonderful church. Yes, and so you just felt being loved on at that church.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And I walked in and I told somebody just this last week that when I first started going okay, this is the first time I'm walking into church alone ever my whole life, right, because I've always been either I had my brother or I had a husband or I had three kids in tow. Now I'm walking in totally alone. And the guy who was a greeter, he says, you know, he wanted to know my name. And I said and he says, is that with an E or without an E? Who asked that? Nobody asked that.
Speaker 2:I said with an E and he went just like Green Gables. I was like, exactly. So from then on he called me and with an E every time I walked in the church, and with an E. And I was like I told him this week at church. I said, do you know how special that made me feel to just have this little bit of attention to that? I was there, you know. So, yeah, I'm going to New Creation, pastor Mike, pastor Dana Addison. I'm leading with Dana a group that's's called women walking whole and it's for women that have been abused.
Speaker 1:Um, somehow, you know, maybe that where you told this testimony.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep, and that was about two, three months ago. I did that.
Speaker 1:So freedom, yep, and that was about two, three months ago I did that.
Speaker 2:So freedom, what it means to you is, tell me what it means to you, okay? Well, I'll tell you one more story. Is that one day after freedom, about a month or maybe six months, I don't know eddie and Addison rented a room in my house for their office for about six months? So I saw them like every day, in and out, whenever you know. And so one day, eddie says so what denomination do you think you are? Now I said I'm so free, I don't need a denomination. And he said that blew his mind. But yeah, I think freedom is like I'm just going to, I listen to the Holy Spirit and I read the Bible and I don't want anybody else's opinion you all, of course. Oh. And when you guys came out this summer to camp and you were doing the Dusty Boy, yeah, the Dusty Boys podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the live recording and you were just like a little bit nervous. I was sitting way in the back and you were like this is kind of nerve wracking to have all these people watching you and doing your interview and everything. And I just heard God was like, see, if he can be nervous, you can do this. So that's what gave me courage to go ahead and say yes to King One.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Praise the Lord. So freedom just means yeah, you can trust God to lead you through scripture and to lead your life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and one of the times that I was watching Dan Moeller was about healing and I got healed on my kidney and then I told you about it at Bible study the next day. Do you remember that story?
Speaker 1:I don't remember.
Speaker 2:Okay, so Dan Moeller's doing his thing and he's talking about teaching on healing. And he said stand up. And I'm folding clothes in my bedroom alone, right? He said stand up if you have an illness. Anyway, we went through all the steps and everything and I'm all by myself. Somebody's going to come along and put their hand on you. Well, I'm alone.
Speaker 2:So I put my hand on my kidney that I had a procedure on five years ago but it still hurt like constantly, and so we pray for that. And I started feeling worse. So I ended up laying down in bed to finish watching this thing and I go to bed. I was fine, even though I was feeling a little bit off, but I was. I was cool that God had healed me. Right, three o'clock in the morning God woke me up, and it was the third night in a row that he'd woken me up at three o'clock in the morning. So I said, lord, what is up with this three o'clock in the morning stuff? What is up with this three o'clock in the morning stuff? And I rolled over onto my left side and it didn't hurt. So he woke me up to show me that I was healed. And so the next morning was your Bible study nine 30 in the morning and I told you all about it and you asked me all kinds of questions and, um, yeah, so and it's fine ever since praise the lord.
Speaker 1:So let's go back to this angry teenager who's in a home that she doesn't want to be in. And if you could go hang out with this girl and put your arm around her, how would you encourage her?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would tell her that Jesus is holding you all through all of this and to just let him hold you, to walk up to him and let him hold you and take all this anger away and to walk for him, to to also to know that everything's going to be okay, because now I'm learning all about provision and he's my provider and he's a healer and he talks to me all the time. He tells me right out of the blue I mean I'm just walking through my house and he'll just land something that I need to know right now, and so that's pretty powerful, that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1:It is, and you've been such a blessing to us in many ways. Uh, just like you were saying, when we were in Nebraska and you came by the camp and I saw you walk in, there's just something about your presence that when you walked in, I was like, oh okay, she's here. We've just been blessed by you and your ministry and your testimony. Thank you, and so, yeah, you're a blessing to all of us and thank you for coming on and sharing your story today with us.
Speaker 2:Welcome. It was an honor. I love, love reality. I tell people all the time and I even thought about this. I was like, after doing the podcast, I will be able to give people the podcast, so I have a list of people to send it to already let's go that.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 2:Thanks, bye.
Speaker 1:Man, ann Marine's story of just receiving this thing from Eddie and Addison. If you're sitting here and you're like I can't be bold like that, you can be bold in whichever area God has put you in, and so if you feel like that's not you and you can't minister, then this prayer is for you. Father, thank you that you've given me all my strengths, that you've given me all my blessings and that, if you want me to talk, I will talk out of the overflow, I will talk out of the goodness that you have given me through your son, jesus Christ, and I have nothing to fear because you've loved me with an everlasting love. Thank you for doing that in Jesus's name. Amen.
Speaker 1:All right, do not forget to holler at TO Elias and I, on Monday nights, eight central, we do the death to life Bible study. It is a blast. Uh, it's you. You won't regret it. It's the best time on the internet. So come hang with us on Monday nights, uh, eight o'clock central. Uh, at the death to life Bible study. Love you, I appreciate y'all. Bye, y'all bye.