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plot"},{"startTime":4513.798,"endTime":4516.518,"body":"point."},{"startTime":4522.606,"endTime":4527.006,"body":"Thank you so much for listening to this"},{"startTime":4522.606,"endTime":4527.006,"body":"edition of A Gamer Looks At 40."},{"startTime":4527.006,"endTime":4531.486,"body":"If you enjoyed this episode, there's a"},{"startTime":4527.006,"endTime":4531.486,"body":"whole bunch of Final Fantasy already out"},{"startTime":4531.486,"endTime":4534.806,"body":"on the feed and there's way more coming in"},{"startTime":4531.486,"endTime":4534.806,"body":"the future."},{"startTime":4534.806,"endTime":4539.106,"body":"So if you dig this series, this is where"},{"startTime":4534.806,"endTime":4539.106,"body":"you should be listening every single week."},{"startTime":4539.106,"endTime":4543.706,"body":"And I thank you so much for making it this"},{"startTime":4539.106,"endTime":4543.706,"body":"far on this episode."},{"startTime":4543.706,"endTime":4548.906,"body":"Thanks very much to Kev from the Discord"},{"startTime":4543.706,"endTime":4548.906,"body":"and Pete Harney for helping me edit these"},{"startTime":4548.906,"endTime":4549.678,"body":"clips."},{"startTime":4549.678,"endTime":4553.718,"body":"Thank you so much to my guests for taking"},{"startTime":4549.678,"endTime":4553.718,"body":"time out of their busy schedules to chat"},{"startTime":4553.718,"endTime":4559.098,"body":"with me about Final Fantasy IV, and thank"},{"startTime":4553.718,"endTime":4559.098,"body":"you so much for listening to this edition"},{"startTime":4559.098,"endTime":4561.318,"body":"of A Gamer Looks F40."},{"startTime":4561.318,"endTime":4566.79,"body":"See you in part two, and until next time,"},{"startTime":4561.318,"endTime":4566.79,"body":"just be kind to yourselves and each other."}]}