S5E2 Mean Girls Strike Again

Wow! The ladies are back and bitchin' at each other as usual, starting with a stop at Wendy's. Enjoy the real housewives of SLC!

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S5E2 Mean Girls 

 Hey, Sarah. Hi, Amber. Welcome to Saskia. And Renee. We're having a little fight before we started this podcast. So let me start it again. Hey, Sarah. Hey, Amber. Welcome to Saskatoon with Sarah and Amber. Can't wait to talk to you. Well, we have a lot to talk about because it was a great episode. It was a really good episode and we watched it tonight. And our recording tonight. But it is still not the night that it was released. That would be our intimate, goal to get to that point. Well, I'm so impressed with this as it is. I just want to pat ourselves on the back. And we haven't even recorded yet, and I'm still giving us credit. There you go. Go ahead. Where do you want to start? No, you start because you took the notes today at this time. And I did not. So. Ha ha. Oh, where shall we start? There's actually so much in this episode. But do you remember last or must spend a couple seasons ago when we were laughing because they filmed literally on State Street? Oh, thank you for bringing that up. Because honestly, yeah, it makes salt lakes look so terrible I know. So they're in her discovery Range Rover or whatever it is. I don't know what it is. Land Rover, whatever it is. And they're on the total completely normal backdrop. Right. And so I just laugh because then I think of Real Housewives of Orange County or New York City and the. The neighborhoods are all gorgeous and beautiful and different and. And then Salt Lake City is just real. It's very real. Hahahahahahahaha. I agree. I was actually thinking when they were driving along, I'm like, first of all, I was trying to figure out where it was on. Was it on seventh? Was it on ninth? I couldn't figure it out. I think it was on ninth, actually. It was way down there. I don't know where it was. I think it was on night because I think they ended up heading to, excuse me, Wendy's on ninth, ninth and ninth or were these other people driving? I don't know, was the other driver driving in one? Okay, everyone, those are just the that's what Salt Lake looks like, FYI. Yeah, that is true. And I think that's an important part. And people don't see it, but they do see it normally when they do the backdrop of Salt Lake. Yeah. Oh my god. And the Xfinity car. Right. The truck right there, I was like okay that is real. That is real. It is Real Housewives. And I guess it does make sense with the title. Yeah. yeah, I don't I mean, this was pretty. Every single person we can talk about. So I don't know why. Was Sean in the first ten minutes of the episode, talking to Angie about something Angie brought up and he's like, you know, giving her advice. And that was the end of Shawn. Well, they just had every husband. They had every husband in the show tonight. Oh, that was Justin in it. Oh, except for Justin. No, Justin was, because they were in the house unpacking, weren't they? Oh that's correct. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So they have little they have little husband snippets tonight. That was a husband snippet. Ah. Okeydokey. So he was. And he's handsome. He really is handsome. I agree with you. I think he's good looking. They're quite an attractive pair. Well, I think we mentioned this before, though. Maybe not everybody's aware of this, but she's like four foot nine. That's not an exaggeration. She's, like literally much shorter than five feet tall. Dang. Yeah. And that just proves when you watch television you don't know. And that people who are tall look like giants on TV. Well I don't think Kamala Harris is that tall. She's seems very tall. Yeah. Heels all the time. Yeah, sure. Okay. but you can I say that. Go ahead. Bad. I was literally asking a question. Why are you getting mad? I thought I was just going to say that Mary's husband, Robert, wasn't on it. So there's snippets. And the son was her romantic partner. I wouldn't have said that, but. Okay, well, I meant like he was the stand in for Robert Senior. Sorry. So that was a and again, what is with Mary and her son? She has a very strange relationship with him and the fact that he lives at home, he's not going to college, he doesn't work. She lives in the creepy house. Like that whole. That whole thing creeps me out. Well, and she wasn't that funny. This episode, I actually thought she was quite mean about, Brittany. we'll have to talk about the Brittany whole situation, because I just think that she and Bronwyn were very mean to Brittany, and I don't think that that was very nice. And I'm not usually one to defend people like that. Anyway, I thought, Mary, Mary's a wacko, and I can't. She can be really funny, but she. But she also can be really mean. I mean, I think she's she does run a cult. That's a real thing, people. I think people are forgetting that. I don't even understand. It just proves to you how, you know, TV doesn't care, right? How short the memory is, right? Yeah, exactly. She was fully running a cult. I'm assuming she's still running it, right. And she's downright nasty to people. Yeah, and she was nasty to Britney, and as was Bronwyn. And I have no tolerance. I've never had tolerance for Mary, though you've always said she's super funny and she doesn't plan to be funny. She's just weird. I was just going to say she's trying to be funny. She wasn't. She was pretty impressive on the ropes thing today. Like she, I'm sorry, I'm saying today. I know it was yesterday. She was pretty, impressive. She was, you know, she got across the ropes course pretty fast. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, I guess so. I did that of Mary. Yeah, well, Mary, Mary's not my. She's on my shit list. And, Bronwyn, I just think, first of all, outfits. I want to talk a lot about Bronwen. Can we just focus on Bronwyn for a minute? Yes. All right, so first off, her husband is so old. He was the CEO of palm. Do you remember when palm? Yeah, it was in the early 90s, I believe. That was when I had my BlackBerry. I was like, should I get a palm or a BlackBerry? I, I believe that was the early 90s, I so he must still have a lot of money from that. That's insane. That's crazy. In hedge funds in New York now. Okay, first off, where do they live? Could you figure it out? I could not, I have no idea. Nor do I care. I do not like her. I already do not like her. I think she's a meanie pants. And I think anytime a woman doesn't like other women and is nasty to women. I think she even said something to the effect of, She's always waiting for women to let her down. I found that very strange. And it's definitely a sign of anybody's around her. Well, you know what? It is a sign of it. Complete self-esteem issues and self-confidence issues. Is this the first thing? but, yeah, I don't trust her. Did you literally say don't trust her? It's not about. I mean, what, you don't trust any of those women? Are you crazy right now with this show? Trust. Do I trust any of them? Well, you know, I think I could at times trust Heather. Okay. I don't want to talk about, like, this is what I want to talk about. Broadway. I want to talk about her old, old husband and his horrible sweater. I wanted to talk about her horrible house. And I thought the box with the sculpture was a coffee table until they. And I was like, well, that's weird. Why would somebody have a coffee table that look like they a shipping box? And then they opened it up and took out the chair thing that had the neon light thing on it that said something like, you change my something stupid. And then what about the designer who shows up? I'm like, where does this person come from? And then I thought, I really thought to myself at that moment, that designer does not dress like that or act like that in real life, like he's just some gay guy in Salt Lake who probably is a designer, obviously, who's like, oh, you know what? I better try to maybe I can get my own designer show by looking like a gay designer in Salt Lake City. Let's see what he does with that house. That house is a total and complete disaster. I wish I knew where it was. It's so strange. And. And. Well, that was a Christmas sweater that her husband. Yeah, I was I was like, is it ugly Christmas sweater day? Agreed. Secondly, what was the Louis Vuitton thing she gave him? What was that? What was it? It was a box. Box. And what was in it, I can't remember. It was something to do with race car driving or something. But I was like, who goes, oh, hey. And then actually you heard a demo. Brittany bring up how she and I will just call him Donny Osmond. Went to Louis Vuitton and bought matching jewelry. I'm like, what people who are going to. By the way, what is it? The mall down downtown here. What's it called again? Creek. City Creek mall to the Louis Vuitton store and buying matching jewelry for stuff that Louis Vuitton does. I mean, I know they have jewelry, I get it, but that's not why you don't go there to buy jewelry. Secondly, why are you buying some box thing for who? Really? And do I believe those things are real? You know, the rumor is that all that stuff is, you know, knockoffs that these ladies buy knockoff, designer stuff for these shows. Well, her outfits were. Weird the entire time yet again. At the very end, when she was doing confessional, she had this like it looked like a skittle dress, like little Skittles were on it everywhere, and I was just like, what is going on? I how about the part where she said, hey, when I was pregnant at BYU? Oh yeah, at 19. Guess what? Guess what? Ma'am, you don't get to be pregnant at BYU. I mean, you get pregnant at BYU. I understand that, but I'm not sure how you stayed pregnant and attended BYU. No she didn't. She dropped out. She said, oh, did she drop out? Yeah, she dropped out. The gals were being mean to her when she was pregnant at BYU. I'm like, yeah, you're at BYU and you're pregnant. What do you think? It makes me wonder what her relationship with her mom is. Obviously. Right. Well, she's. Anyway, I was surprised that she's a real utahn. Did she come from somewhere else? Well, I was like, why is she here? Because, I mean, obviously you're right. She must be a utahn. Because her husband works in New York City. Okay. Yeah. Well, don't you think he lives in Salt Lake with her? Because they met in San Francisco. So don't you think that he just. Which is weird. Yeah. How did she end up with. She was working as a trader. Like, what the hell? Actually, her background sounds kind of interesting. If she went from being a pregnant BYU student to working as a trader in San Francisco, to marrying an old man and then moving back to Salt Lake. But here's he missed to move back to Salt Lake with her. Oh yeah, I agree 100%, right? He must have been done a pulled an Amber Fitzsimmons and said like, okay, I guess we'll move to Salt Lake. And I even probably have a horrible Christmas sweater that you would, you know, barf if I wore. yeah, I don't know. I he seemed very nice, very boring. and but it's his first time on the show. He doesn't know how to act, so who knows? We might get to see more of him. or. Or not, which is probably best. And I don't know, I just think, can we talk about Britney for a second? absolutely. But I just wanted to read this to you because I just looked on the Bravo things. I really want to know more about this. Braunwyn. I can't figure her out. And it says Braunwyn Newport, this is on Bravo. Bravo is a successful Broadway producer and fashion influencer with impeccable taste and trendsetting fashion outside her professional endeavors. And then, oh, she's a dedicated liberal political activist. That's interesting. I'm talking about the same Braunwyn. Yeah, she's a Broadway producer. Well, yeah. What did she produce? Yeah, let's check that out. I don't know if you put money towards a Broadway production, suddenly you're a Broadway producer, right? Yeah, exactly. Oh my gosh. Okay. Poor Britney, let's talk about her. She may. Well, I first of all, she looks like a deer in the headlights to me most of the time. And I feel like she's. You know who she reminds me of? Jen on Orange County, who led a very sheltered, protected life. And then her and her husband got divorced, and she's like, I don't know how to pay rent or, you know, I don't know how to pay for my car. And I'm just like, oh, it's another one of those I can tell. Don't you feel like she looks? First off, she doesn't look. She looks tired. She looks at her. Does she looks and I don't. I hate to say this because I don't really want to come down on people for their looks, but she looks physically exhausted to me. And then she's having to deal with this insanity on the show. I don't think she should have signed up for the show. I don't think it's going to do her any favors. and immediately Mary and Braunwyn are accusing her of things she didn't do. The first thing they got mad about was saying that they were wearing that. Braunwyn not even Mary was wearing a costume, right? Secondly, Mary made a comment about basically how, you know, she likes to have a lot of clothes because when she was young, she did without I think those were her exact words. And then Braunwyn, I mean, Brittany said, oh, I was I grew up poor too. And I took that exactly how Britney did. I didn't say I was poor, I did without that's why I like to buy nice clothes now. And both of them are they have it out for Britney. And I'm like, you're just being mean girls. That's what you're doing. Yeah. And she already is obviously a fragile person. You can tell I agree. And something about neither of her daughters talk to her. And then Mary jumped on that and said something, you know, derogatory towards that. And I thought, oh, this is not going to go well. Like I it it like you said, fragile. And I just it's not going to go well, sir. Although there were hints of a couple, there were hints from two different sources about. Something that maybe Mary was on to something. So first off, Heather, when they were playing pickleball, had said something about the Mormon church. she made a comment, which is not exactly true. The comment was, you can get into heaven, without having children, but you can't get into heaven without a husband. And that's not exactly true. You just can't get to the celestial Kingdom, which is the highest level of the highest level of heaven. You did say celestial. Yeah. She did. She said yeah, she factually, it seems like. Got that correct. Well, whatever. And but she made the comment because she was basically saying that Brittany had made choices regarding men at the expense of her children. If you recall, that was in the. And then Mary later went, and I'm not going to she was she said she was triggered by Brittany because her own mom, only cared about the man or the men that she was with and, and didn't pay any attention to the five children in Mary's family. So there's something to that story, I think, because they wouldn't have talked about it two times. And you know what I get, I get it, I mean, but Mary's mean to her in the first place for not a good reason. I get it. If you're triggered by somebody who doesn't have a relationship with their kids, if you yourself are not parented. Well, like, I kind of get that, but Mary did in the mean way. So, yeah, I also thought Bronwyn was like telling Brittany that she's chaotic as fuck and came in hot and wild and I'm like, she seems like she's on Xanax or something. She's very low key because like you said, she looks tired and almost traumatized in some way, and or it just appears that way. I'm not saying she is. I'm just saying she just appears actually quite. low key. And so, I don't know the whole Donny Osmond thing. I know it's not Donny. I forget the guy's name. The whole Osmond guy thing. And in the Costco cart. I mean, whatever I whatever. Do what you need to do, sister. I don't know why you need those. Yeah, she was calling everybody sis to when they were doing the thing, but she. You know, I feel bad for her. Like, move on, find another boyfriend. He's not a good boyfriend. No, I, I agree, I don't think he is either. And, who cares if he said your best friend? I mean, best was my best friend in Costco. I don't think that says love. And I don't think it doesn't say love, so I have no idea. But they were just. Everybody was so mean to her. They are meet her. And then. But then Heather decided to become overly defensive of her. I felt. Yep. and went after Bronwyn, which I felt was a little bit unfair. even though I don't, I'm not trying to be defensive of Bronwyn, but, you know, probably just being a housewife. She was in a car with one group of ladies, and then she's in a car with another group. I mean, that's her job. Job? Like, what are we expect her to do? Just, like, be consistent and normal? No, she's on Real Housewives of Salt Lake. She needs to take sides on both sides and be crazy. That's what we watch. Yeah, I mean, she really did gang up on Brittany or Whitney. Yeah, and I've really regret in our last episode, when we kept on talking about soft swinging, that I was pronouncing it wrong. I know it wasn't swinging, it was swinging. Swinging, and I was pronouncing it wrong. I'm sorry. Whitney got ganged up on and oh my God. So what I found out about Whitney tonight, I discovered something that I haven't discovered before. Dang. Deb is the correct pronunciation, by the way. I just want to point that out. No. She say Jenga? She's okay. Yeah. Go back and listen to it. And Jenga with an extra syllable. She added the G at the end. That extra syllable there. Yeah. Anyway, she talks like. Well, she talks like this, but there's no intonation in any of her sentences, so listen to it again. She has. No, I don't have to write. You're. And Meredith does a great impersonation as well as you. You I know, so what Meredith in the kitchen making the. Well, her kids were making the bath salts or the bath bomb or whatever. And then her daughter was in some race car outfit. And then Brooke's has gotten so tall. Oh, really? He's gotten taller. He's so handsome. He is handsome and he's kind of smart to kind of stay out of the fray. I hope that, you know, I hope both our kids do because Chloe Wei stayed out of it, and now he's dipping her toes in a little bit. So basically, it sounds like Seth is living most full time, much like Amber Fitzsimmons. Living full time somewhere else. it's at this full time in Columbus, Ohio. And then he's working for Big Lots. Are you sure? I went on LinkedIn, and, you know, he's a turnaround CEO or a CMO, senior vice president. He's done the whole thing for change. And he's really into empowering and change and supporting team members. Just everything that you want to hear, which is great. And he does seem like a nice guy. but I think and I think it was big lots. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it just goes to show you that she's here only very, very, very part time. Right? She. Who cares? I don't want to go on a tangent. How did she end up in Utah? That's my one tangent. I don't know, I hope to God we get to watch her bat mitzvah at the temple there. The Park City temple. I would be really excited to see that on television. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Yeah, I actually, I, I'm supportive of her doing that. I'm totally supportive, I think. Hey, whatever works and and I can see why she's like, during this time. I want to, you know, feel more at one with who I am. And that made a lot of sense to me. I was know, and she's mature and ready. That's what she said. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, so I don't know. That's really all I got. We didn't talk about Heather. There's nothing to say. Yeah, there's a couple of things to say about Heather. What Heather, in my opinion, gets. First off, she's being defensive of Brittany, which I appreciated. She needed to be a defensive of Brittany. But Heather can talk about coming in hot. Heather can really take it out on somebody, and she's so smart and she's so quick that there's really no way to defend yourself when Heather goes after you. In a lot of ways, in my opinion. And, I do think she's inconsistent. And for example, tonight I thought her going again. I'm not trying to be. I don't like Braunwyn for going after Braunwyn, though, for being in the car and saying one thing about, you know, one group of ladies and then getting in the car. And then we have to talk about Wendy's, too. Let's talk about that, actually. So they're driving along. I'm trying to figure out which Wendy's, because as only Amber knows of the group, my mother is a Wendy's aficionado, which is hard to believe. But yes, my mother loves herself a cheeseburger with extra pickles, French fries and then a tiny frosty. She just gets the kids. Is that what the JVC was that? Heather ordered? Oh, really? Yeah, she said JVC, and I was with it, but it looked like it was exactly that. Oh, a little tiny hamburger. Okay. so I was hoping that it was my mother's Wendy's, which is right off of fourth. Yeah. but it wasn't. It was off of ninth and ninth somewhere around there in the ninth and ninth area. No, I think it was way down by, Heather's house. Oh, you're thinking holiday? Yeah. I'm pretty sure I picked up and then said, where's the Wendy's? Okay, I was down there. No, listen, I'm thinking, well, holiday real hard right now, and I don't believe there's a way. But anyway, who cares where it is? The, the fact that they the fact that first off, Lisa is doing a Wendy's commercial, which is why she went to Wendy's on the show, because she's already is. Yeah. So she already does a Wendy's commercial. Oh, make it bank by going to Wendy's. You'll never see Lisa go to any other fast food now because remember she used to just drive through to every fast food they'd go to like Taco Bell and Wendy's and McDonald's and they'd go to all the fast food. Now, you'll never see that again for sure. But the crap that she eats, the crap. Like I leave it. How is she so thin. She's amazing. Metabolism. Well she hasn't hit menopause yet. She has not hit menopause yet so I can tell she's in her late 40s. She has kids so she probably hasn't hit menopause, which is why she can still eat a bunch of Wendy's garbage. Welcome to our world. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck on your belly. Suck on the belly. Visceral fat. I mean, yeah, I hear you. Yeah. So anyway, back to Heather. I just feel like that, you know, sometimes she she really takes. I think she takes it for the show. It's perfect. But she takes it a step too far in real life. Like, I just don't think that. Did she really need to go after Braunwyn because she didn't like the way they were treating Brittany? How about just tell everybody to back off? Brittany? I don't really know. I totally agree. So I mean, so far I feel like it's definitely, I don't know about you, but it's definitely not a I'm not congealed is not the word, but it's not a group that's got their groove on by any stretch. There's there's tensions already, starting with the first episode. And usually, usually it's fun and dandy and then something happens, right? But it didn't start that way and it's there. It's like going it's going up and down right now. And so you can tell it's going to go bad this season. Well, I guess the real question I have for the viewers, I think for me, I enjoy watching the show so much because I'm sitting here in Salt Lake, but I wonder if I would if I weren't sitting in Salt Lake or for you, like, you're in Salt Lake a lot too, because it's a little bit boring. I will say that they're a little bit rock and roll. Don't you think it's interesting that there's no diversity on the show this year? That's a little strange. Mary's the only, I guess, person of color, on the show, which I think is interesting because before didn't they have they had, Monica they had an Asian woman. Yeah. The, the main Asian woman. Oh, yeah. But she got in trouble, I can't remember. We got in trouble because she was posting like, crazy stuff on. Yeah. That's right. Oh that's right. Yeah. But I feel like okay. So yeah they're just back to. Yeah. Yeah that's a really good point. Yeah. Which yeah it's pretty representative of Utah to be honest. But I don't know. Yeah that was a little weird I don't know the show so far so good but kind of boring. And I hope that I hope that it gets more interesting. Yeah. It was actually that boring. I just feel like. It's more toxic than it's gotten. It went toxic really fast versus no one likes each other. No, no. Is anybody truly friends except Angie and and Mary and Angie and Lisa and then Heather's friends, Heather and Whitney are truly friends, I believe. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, I am just very questioning this whole thing and just going to see how this goes. But you're right, it's interesting to us because we live there. It's our dream to run into one of them. you. Oh, you saw Whitney at a concert? That's how Whitney, Heather and Garth Brooks. You've seen Whitney. You've seen Heather, you've seen Mary. Mary? Yeah. yeah. Anyway, you know, we watch Orange County Housewives, and this is not any less boring than Orange County's news. Best Orange County. Yeah, yeah. Or is it that we're just not as tolerant? Tolerant, tolerable. We don't tolerate it as well as we used to. Orange County, any of it. yeah. It's just, you know, it's probably not as new and fresh, but Orange County, by the way, Tamara, Bernie is riffic. She's terrible. You know, from from Tamara. And, you know, I think Heather Dubrow is really, really thin. She's like the Mary thin. Yeah. That's weird. It's like. And doesn't. Doesn't TV put pounds on you? You know, it's actually disturbing, I agree. Disturbing to me. That one's disturbing to me. That whole show is disturbing, but I'll watch it. Oh, I can't wait for Beverly Hills to come back to. Oh, no. Well, that's my fave. That is my favorite. I used to love New York until they got. I don't watch the new ladies. Do you watch them? Yeah I do. It's Kyle Richards coming back. I'm Beverly Hills, I think so, yeah. Ah, wow. I'm surprised because I think she was also healing her feelings. Oh my gosh, Whitney and her feelings. She kept saying feelings over and over again. Feelings, feelings, feelings, feelings. Yeah, I don't understand ultra, ultra, ultra wealthy people who want to be on these shows. Yeah, like you must be such a narcissist, right? Because you don't have to be on the show like you're not doing money. Why are you doing it? Oh, because you want to be famous. Because you want to be recognized. But Kyle Richards, already famous, and she doesn't need to be recognized anymore. Yeah, that's my point. Why would she need to? She want to be on the show? Oh, yeah. No. Did you hear the Hoda Kotb is leaving today? I know, I like her. Who doesn't love Hoda Kotb? No, I've never watched it. I don't really actually have not watched an episode with her, but I do like her. Listen, if you want to. The funniest thing I ever saw, consistently, was Coda or excuse me, Hoda Kotb and Kathie Lee Gifford on the 10 a.m. show after the today show, whatever that was called. They drinking wine at ten in the morning. They were making me laugh all the time. I mean, she they were so, so funny. You got to give Kathie Lee a lot of credit for because she she was the big star and kind of brought Hoda copy out in terms of becoming the star. I wonder who to copy is going to do. Maybe nothing. Maybe she's taken I think she because she adopted her children so late that it sounds like she's going to stay home with them. Got it. And then I went to the Wynonna Judd concert last night, and Wynonna disclosed a lot of crazy things. But one thing that wasn't crazy that she disclosed that was interesting, is that she's raising a two year old grandchild. Yeah, she's 60 years old. I know that's because her daughter is in prison, I believe. Is she not? I don't know, but she I don't I think she has maybe some challenges. Yeah. Yeah. good for good for Winona. Man. That's got to be. I can't imagine having kids at our age, much less 60. Oh, my. Oh, like a two year old. I know, right? We had a 17 year old for a year. That was hard. Didn't you think Bronson's daughter look like, our foreign exchange student? Kind of. Yeah. I was like, oh, my gosh. Our foreign exchange students. Cuter, but very similar. Just appearance like, yeah, that was cute. Yeah. Yeah. That was good. Yeah. Well I think sorry for low energy everyone. Yeah. Not not not not our tip top shape. But you know here we are may. You know you never always feel good when you're doing your your your role your job. And that was just the night that we you know what I did have something to add. Okay. Couple things. Just a couple things from last week's episode. I wanted to explain to everyone why we were calling the temple enactments, enactments and not reenactments. Well, that's because the word reenactment suggests that it actually happened previously. I just wanted to make that clear. Secondly, I did speak to my close friend who, has been through the temple and indeed, you go into room to room and you have like, so I, we I was correct in what I said. You would go to a room, there'd be Adam and Eve, and then she did tell me something that was really funny. Gordon Jump, who used to be on Debbie Corp in Cincinnati. I didn't realize he was an LDS man. And he's in a lot of the temple movies that they show in other temples playing like Joseph Smith or somebody like that. So but she agreed 100% that they should be live in the temple because, you know, God forbid you miss out on that live action going on. I know, I know, you know, and I was just thinking, I want to know, like, are those professional actors? No, they're they're volunteer members doing that, but they're actors. Yeah, yeah, it sounds kind of Scientology. She said she would come on our podcast and explain because she would love to. You know, she was just to be clear, when she went through the temple, she was sworn to secrecy and silence about everything she witnessed in the temple, or she's going straight to hell. And indeed, she had to do the little slicing of the throat, because back in the day you would swear, you wouldn't tell anybody, and then you had to run your finger across your throat saying that you would kill yourself before you would ever even disclose any of this, and she's willing to come on and spill the beans to all of us. Oh well, okay, so we need to just be really clear, and perhaps our listeners can email us or text us or something and let us know. What do you want to know? Yeah, that we can get you some information on. So if you want to email us, go to our website. Text us whatever you need to do. But, we are going to have her on and we're going to share some inside scoop on LDS temple happenings. Yeah, no good info, Sarah. Good info. Thank you. Well, I pleasure as always. next week we will be out for two weeks in regards to our podcast. We'll pick it up afterwards and we're so grateful people are listening again. I saw the downloads because I look at the stats, and we had a whopping double digit download and I will not brag more than that. And I hope that, hope that people come back and listen. thank you so much for our listeners in Germany and South Africa and, I think about 15 states, so I feel lucky. Anyway, thanks, Sarah, for Saskatoon with Sarah and Amber.