The Gen Pop Podcast

#68 - Spotting Good Information & Bullshit Detection

Larry Doyle

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We pull apart health and fitness claims, from testosterone boosters to greens powders, and show how incentives, language, and hidden fine print shape what you’re sold. We share practical checks to spot hype, read labels, and double down on habits that actually work.

• influencer incentives and affiliate kickbacks
• red-flag language and too-good-to-be-true promises
• basics first: sleep, steps, strength, nutrition
• placebo versus behaviour change and real drivers
• peer reviews from trusted people in your circle
• reading labels and avoiding proprietary blends
• study context, populations, and limitations
• free ebooks, data capture, and clickbait traps
• why consistency beats “one exercise” fixes
• building a BS radar and slowing impulsive buys

As always, we're here to help you out. Just drop us a DM if there's something that you say, you know what, Larry, what do you think it is here? I've seen this online, just shoot it across to us.


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Welcome And Mission

SPEAKER_01

Hey guys, you're listening to the Gen Pop Podcast with me, your host, Larry Doyle. Each week, I'm gonna bring in friends, guests, and experts to help enhance your health, fitness, and wellness journeys. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the conversations. You are welcome back to another episode of the Gen Pop Podcast, where this week co-host Daniel and I, we're gonna help you decipher good and bad information online. You're gonna be getting assaulted from all angles with all sorts of bullshit all the time. We're gonna help you out in terms of figuring out if it's good, bad, or indifferent. Daniel, what shit have you been seeing lately?

SPEAKER_00

I think there's a never-ending stream of shit, really. No matter where you're looking, whether it's social media or even like stuff that you'd see clients send you to uh every now and then, like they'd be sending you links to Instagram reels or different posts they've seen, like what you think of this, or I'm thinking about like buying this product or whatnot, and like some of the stuff you actually can't believe is actually even is a thing, or that people are buying into it. But obviously, a lot of these products or a lot of these uh these ideologies or whatever is purely marketing-based, like they're they're making it seem as if it's something you need is something that's that's the one thing that's holding you back, and I think that's the hardest thing for people to kind of accept that it's a lot easier to kind of hand off the you know the accountability to somebody else saying, like, well, the reason I'm not getting my results is not because of the lack of effort I'm putting in, it's because I don't have this 250 euro supplement. So trying to navigate today's health and fitness sphere, I think, is a bit of a bit of a headache, really, when there's so much out there. But hopefully by the end of this podcast, you'll have a better understanding of kind of how to navigate all these things and kind of dissect all the information for yourself.

Influencer Incentives And Ad Transparency

SPEAKER_01

I've become a skeptic of everything. Like I just don't believe anyone in any industry anymore because they see so much bullshit within the health and fitness space that I'm like, is everyone else a cowboy? And then I talk to other people in other spaces and they're like, Yeah, there's there's just cowboys in every single avenue and space. So it's like it's been able to decipher what is the actual angle that they're coming at, right? When you see some stuff, okay. So it might be an influencer coming in and like obviously, you know, give influencers a very wide birth when we look at this, right? You're gonna have some that are genuinely interested and invested and have a deep understanding and education on the products they may be talking about. You're also gonna have the financial incentive that's gonna be there from a lot of these promotions that you're gonna see, and you'll see hashtag ad, or you'll see the influencer with the product placement in in X. And it's like, what's the actual angle here? And you know, we'll look at one, for example, you see Athletic Greens, AG1. It's on all the podcasts, it's on like every single podcast out there at the moment, except for this one, because we're not shills. But when you look at Huberman, when you look at uh Chris Williamson, any of those guys who are uh leveraging off these, they're getting six figures a month, six figures an episode at times, because they're getting like 20 to 30 percent kickback on those products of you using their discount link. Now, I don't care how good the product is or whatever it is, like that's gonna be a far bigger incentive. It's gonna be a far bigger driver for those guys to tell you this is the thing you need. You need this in your life, and it's gonna change it. The only thing that's changing in someone's life is their bank account growing exponentially from month to month with a lot of these products, you know, and obviously they're coming under a lot of scrutiny. You'll see a lot of like debunking videos on uh, you know, whatever on social media around us. But it's to take it with the pinch of saw, particularly around the influencing space, that there's gonna be a massive financial incentive behind those um products, between those uh whether it's an e-product, whether it's a physical product, whatever it is, it's gonna be a huge incentive that's actually driving those. So how do we help someone spot that other than just saying don't trust influencers? But like, how can we actually help people spot bullshit?

Too-Good-To-Be-True Claims And Language

SPEAKER_00

I guess the first thing is kind of pay attention to the language that's being used to promote the product that you're having a look at. So, like, is it very like all or nothing language like you must or you you can't or you need to get this? Um, or like if the results that they're they're promising you that you're gonna get from using their product are gonna be like mind-blowing, like use this product and lose 10 kilos in the month, or use this and you'll have like the best sleep of all time, like this is the thing that you're missing. Like, if it sounds too good to be true, there's high likelihood it is, because more often than not, with most people, that if you really kind of break down everything that they're doing already, whether they're looking at a sleep supplement, you say, right, but are you actually doing everything already that you could be doing to kind of improve your sleep? So, like, are you cutting off caffeine around midday or one o'clock? Are you spending time before going to bed actually relaxing and winding down? Or are you like running around the place doing MLA1 things and then you're trying to get to bed and go to sleep? Uh like it a lot of the time you actually see that people aren't just doing the basics, but it's a lot easier to buy something because you have that instant gratification of like, oh, I bought something, I'm gonna get these good results. It's a lot easier to take a pill or use a powder or whatever it is than it is to actually make changes to your routine or your habits. So the first thing I always kind of say to people is like, does it actually sound too good true? Like, is it offer you something that sounds like very, very uh, like as I said, extreme? So that was probably the first thing. And then like also have a look at the the person that said it, like what's their incentive for doing that? Like, do they have like an affiliate code or a promo code? Or like are they doing the bullshit thing where they pull out like a bag of whey proteins? Like, I've been using this whey protein for the last three years, but like you've only seen the post for the last two weeks. It's like you see that all the time that like they're jumping from one supplement brand to the other. The new supplement brand, that's the best thing ever. Then they jump ship two years later, new supplement brand, the best thing ever. That's because they're offering them more money to promote that product, that's the only difference. Um, and then I think like if you kind of want to go very deeper, it's just like look at the evidence behind what they're actually claiming. Like, is there actually evidence to back up what they're saying, whether it be like studies, research, or whatnot? But again, that's very in-depth for a lot of people to understand. So I think that's kind of where we kind of step in, where we have people bringing us stuff and saying, like, what do you think of this? And then it's up to us then to research it, it's gonna break it down into easy to digest language, so we can actually give it back to them. So I can completely understand why in this day and age it is very, very hard for a lot of people, just uh gin pop generation, that are it's very hard for them to kind of like they're saying, Is this actually what I need, or is it just like a scam at the end of the day?

Lifestyle Fixes Versus Testosterone Boosters

SPEAKER_01

You know, you look at supplements like testosterone boosters, for example. Um, you take this shilajat, or you take this shroom, or you take this whatever supplement here, and you're gonna be feeling revitalized, you're gonna be feeling high energy, you're gonna be feeling boosted, you're gonna feel like a man again. So it's like it's it's jabbing at the fact that you're not even a man right now because you're not taking this, you know, and it's like it's getting guys, it's literally punching them below the belt, right? And now they feel guilty. Oh, I'm not gonna be as good a father because I'm not taking these, or I'm not gonna be manly, and I need to be more manly because men are manly. And it's like, I I need to take this because you know that's far easier than doing the thing. However, in the little very bottom corner of that, you're gonna see a little asterisk. That's gonna be as part of a healthy and balanced lifestyle. The thing that's gonna actually get you the result is the healthy and balanced lifestyle. If you improve your sleep, you're gonna boost testosterone. If you stop drinking alcohol, you're gonna boost your testosterone. If you start weight training, you're gonna boost testosterone. If you do all of those things, lose body fat, reduce stress, manage lifestyle, you're gonna boost testosterone by up to 300%. The exact result that that shila jat or mushroom or whatever the hell it is that's gonna promise you that result, all you have to do is actually take the thing. Now, here's the other side of it. If you take the thing and it placebos the shit out of you into doing all the other things and you get the result, I really don't give a shit because you've got the result. And if you need to like pay the extra money to take the supplement and it constructs you into doing all the rest of it, cool, you've got the thing. But don't be under the illusion that it was the supplement that actually got you that big outcome. It was because you made all the lifestyle changes. Uh, you'll see like the special K ad. That was the one that was like targeted all the ladies. There was the woman in the red dress, and she looked amazing. She would lose all the body weight from eating a special K. Part of a balanced lifestyle. Anything else, part of a balanced lifestyle, you know, whatever it is, it's gonna be part of a balanced lifestyle. Now, again, it's not as sexy to count your calories, to do your steps, to hit your gym sessions, to do all that. Just take this supplement and it's gonna solve all your problems. And that's the bullshit we're gonna be faced with. So, like, you really do got to look at the the actual results. Another thing I would say is like, do you know anyone who's actually taken that? And can you ask them, someone within your own circle of trust, that, okay, Daniel, I'm gonna ask you about that microphone you've got there because we want to upgrade the podcast recordings and do all that. So you're gonna give me your own in-depth review of that because I trust you and you're within my circle of trust and friends and whatever, and I'm gonna take that as very accurate information. I can look up loads of like spoofy results and kind of reviews online, but it's not really gonna be accurate or someone that's in my circle of trust, right? So that would be another avenue I would look at with people. Do you know anyone who's taken that supplement or that thing or use that program or whatever it might be, and actually use that full review from them? And that will give you a far more in-depth actually response on that as well, too, you know, because one, they've probably felt like they've wasted their money, and two, they're gonna tell you that you're gonna waste your money too, and you shouldn't bother taking it, or that they changed your lifestyle and that was the only real thing that did it. So it's like always getting like some you know, peer-review insights into it. You can look at the studies and research, but I mean, studies and research and data, it's very flawed again, like when we look at that, and you can have, you know, a lot of particularly like when we're looking at like the female marketing, a lot of the studies and research that are going to be used in that is actually with male demographics. And it doesn't tell you within that study and research. And a lot of the data can be collected from like prison environments as well, too, right? Because now you're actually looking at a very controlled group, you're looking at the lack of menstrual cycles that's going to like influence the results and data that's there as well, too. The uh consistency that they'll have with those groups, and now all of a sudden it's like, okay, we did X and Y happened, but we're you know, it was a group of 50 people. However, they were all prison inmates in Mexico, as opposed to like a group of like menopausal ladies that were like seeing these benefits, right, from that supplement or whatever it might be. So again, like you need to look a little bit further and a little bit more in depth. But then, like, even on a surface level, to peel it back to what you said, does it actually make sense? Like, is this just absolute bullshit as well? Too and like we'll know, but you'll just say, Well, fuck it, you're all just gonna take this anyway. Instead of like cleaning up my lifestyle and doing six months of work, maybe this thing is actually gonna solve all my problems. Chances are it's not. So, again, uh what let's talk about some specifics. What have you seen uh that like guarantees outlandish results? Like, have you ever seen anything that guarantees outlandish results that actually delivered outlandish results?

Peer Reviews, Studies, And Context

SPEAKER_00

To be honest, no, not nothing that you can actually buy, like the because a lot of the stuff that you can buy is just again, like is I always look at everything as a supplement, it's the same as like a like a supplement, like a pill that you take. Like, I think like say uh say blue light blocking glasses is a supplement that you should use once you have everything else already in line, and it should be the exact same with everything else. It's like even down to like training modalities, like people saying, like, oh, you need to do this type of training and this type of exercise because it's going to be the best and most optimal exercise to hit your lats and stuff. It's like, right, but if you haven't even gone into the gym and just done the bare bones lat pull down just with a straight bar, even though everyone will say, like, oh, you need to have D handles hooked up and all this kind of shit. It's like, but even if you haven't just done that, I don't think you should be jumping like that far ahead because you still actually just don't understand just the basic movement itself. So I always kind of look at everything as it is a supplement, really. If you haven't been doing the basics, then you really don't really need anything else on top of that. And I think like um I think just to kind of give my own example, I can remember before I even got into the gym because I was in my mid-20s before I got into the gym. I can remember being 21, 22, and a lot of people that I would have been friends with started going to the gym, and everyone started using like um whey protein and stuff, and I remember having a conversation with somebody, and they were on about that you know, a lot of the lads in the J were using uh whey protein and stuff, and like that they were getting like muscular and all this kind of stuff, and I was like, Yeah, but like the minute they stop using it, like they're just gonna put all that weight back on and all this kind of shit. Because like I just believed that that it was like it was that magic, but it knows it's because they started using whey protein in combination with going to the gym looking after the rest of their lifestyle, so like it had this knock-on effect, and that's something that you will see an awful lot as well. Is people will implement multiple things at the same time and they can't pinpoint like what actually had the effect. So, like if I did buy a testosterone boosting supplement, but then because I was taking that, I started training a bit harder, I started prioritizing my sleep a bit more, I started actually counting my calories and looking after my diet, then I actually saw results. Can you say for sure that it was the supplement you were taking, or was it because you actually were doing everything else as well alongside that? And I think what you said earlier with regards to the testosterone boosting supplement is kind of very true because like the best things you actually can do to improve your testosterone is do everything you can to not lower it. So like improve your sleep, improve your diet, improve your body fat levels. Because like if you're not prioritizing those, then even if a testosterone boosting supplement that you can buy over the counter did work, you're just gonna be bringing it back up to where it actually should be. Anyway, it's not gonna be boosted up to like levels that you would be if you actually were taking actual testosterone. So I think the first thing you need to do is just actually remove everything that actually is having a negative impact in your life before looking at anything else.

Outlandish Promises And Basics First

Creatine Hype And Bodybuilding Illusions

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, what can you take away before you actually start to add in? Um, where we're on the the topic of that, I'm gonna give my own embarrassing story of when I was oh 18, 19, 19, I think it was, uh I had various different amounts of muscular development magazines and muscle and fitness, and I was like looking at all these like superstars that were within it. And I had spotted one supplement that was there, and I was like, this is the thing, man. This is the holy grail, this is gonna be it. It was an ad for Creatamax 8000 Maxi Muscle's latest and greatest creatine product, and it had like some glutamine and had like some other things in it, but it was at the time it was like a fortune, I think it was like 80 pounds, 80 euros, something like that. It was right, don't even know if it was pounds or euros, it was that far back. And I remember at the time I picked it up in the local health store because like this was like down the back of the health store, it was like down in the dark section where it was like nothing was really easy to it was like no online stores or whatever to access the stuff. And I brought it home and I remember chatting to my girlfriend at the time. I was like, you're not gonna recognize me in four weeks. I'm gonna be a mutant, I am gonna morph like it. It's go time, right? As if I was loading up a five mil syringe and chapping it into my ass with like gear. I was there saying, You are not gonna recognize me in five weeks' time, four weeks' time. I'm gonna 20 pounds of raw Irish beef is gonna be added to my frame. And it was like five weeks later, it was like like a pound heavier, there was nothing after happening. I wasn't doing the thing. Surprise, surprise. I was out of pocket. Now, creatine works, right? Okay, creatine does work, we'll look at that. And it's like one of the most researched, uh, you know, evident, proven supplements that's out there, right? But if you're not doing all the things to drive hypertrophy or strength, if you're not lifting heavier weights, if you're not eating more food, if you're not like in the gym frequently training and looking at all your recovery and all the drivers of hypertrophy, you're not going to build any muscle. It doesn't matter how much creatine you take, you're not going to develop any extra power, you're not going to develop any extra speed or strength or any of that if you're not doing the speed, strength, and power and hypertrophy things. But yeah, that was one of my like sucker things. Now, this is where I got fooled in because I'm looking at like it was Jay Cutler was in the magazine, and it was like all Ronnie Coleman, it was Gunter Schlurkamp, there was all the guys who were there. They were like monstrous, 300-pound bodybuilders, and I was there like skinny 70 kilo ginger Irish young male who was like not got the same genetic potential as any of those guys. But that was the allure that I was going to end up turning into this mutant because they were the guys who were advertising these products or similar types of people who are one clearly now weak realize they're using anabolic steroids. And maybe I wasn't as naive at the time and I was kind of aware of it, but still, it was giving me this thing that I was going to be able to now be like these guys. And that as someone who is very naive or young or influential or whatever, it's given this idea that I can be like those two, I can be that guy. And like this is where obviously the trap comes in because maybe it's the skinny chick in the gym in the new gym gear that's telling you you can look like me if you take this supplement or this pill or powder or potion, or it's the podcasting influencer who's telling you you can change your life and radically improve everything if you take this. But it's like they are on a different genetic tier, they're on a different financial incentive. There's all these other drivers that are there behind that, and it's like you're not going to get the same outcomes, unfortunately, as those people. Now, there's the other side of it as well where you will also have some like absolute outliers, and you'll have that genetic freak who goes into the gym and actually does put on 20 pounds in their first couple of months of weight training because they're thinking they're taking creetine, but it's most likely they're jacked up genetics, and their mother and father are also huge individuals. Chances are that that young kid put on tons of muscle and it wasn't actually the creatine as well. So it's like again, it's been able to spot that information, it's been able to decipher and actually, I guess, as taking a moment and not being as reactive and saying, hang on a second, I'm not just gonna like instantly buy this because Amazon is telling me now to put it in my cart or that I feel influenced by those people. It's to say, what is actually, what am I looking for here? What am I actually lacking that's not giving me the results or this outcome that I'm looking for? And again, to go back to that point you saw you said there about like what could I actually remove from my lifestyle? And again, to go back to the testosterone booster element of it, improving your sleep, it's free. Dropping body fat, it's actually free because it's it's cheaper because you're eating less food. You get to go out and walk and you burn some additional calories, so it's actually free. Um, managing your stress, also free. Doing all the things that are going to improve your testosterone, free. And you can dramatically and significantly see the benefits from that and not spend an absolute fortune as well, too. So it's looking at these things, right? And it's actually like, what can I remove before what can I add in? Because again, if you've got a shitty lifestyle and you think that a supplement or a pill is going to actually change that, well, that's like probably not. You're gonna still still have a shitty lifestyle, it's not gonna be able to support those outcomes. Um, as far as labels, so let's say if we're looking at a supplement and like we're trying to read down through and decipher the labels on it or some product or whatever it might be, something that's also useful is like, is it a proprietary blend that's actually in this? And this is like another aspect of it. So a proprietary blend is gonna be it's gonna as like some muscle-building matrix is gonna be written on the back of it. It'll tell you all the different things that are within this, all the different uh ingredients that are within this. And it's gonna say 2,000 milligrams or whatever it might be, it's gonna be within that. And all of those are bunched into the one thing. Essentially, what that company is doing, they're lacking transparency and they're not showing you the real ingredient list that's actually there. Uh, because the real ingredient list is gonna break it down to everything to its actual gram or to its milligram or microgram or whatever it might be that's actually in that. What they're most likely doing, and this is something that's super common within like the supplement industry and protein, particularly, is like protein spiking that they'll put in like other amino acids that are not actually all that beneficial, but they can say that it's a protein matrix and they'll like hide the fact that they've put in and they've spiked that with a ton of different amino acids that aren't actually all that beneficial. It could be the same with that uh testosterone boosting supplement or again whatever product it might be. Um I think does AG1 have a proprietary blend? Is that right? On their some of their products, it doesn't. They used to have it, maybe, and they've changed it. I'm not sure. Potentially, and you'll you'll see this with a lot of those brands. It's like again, a proprietary blend, it's going to tell you all these amazing supplements, but it's not already ingredients, but it's not actually listing out specifically what's in there. And I know if we were to look at um supplement needs, and because I know Dr. Dean very well, and Dean is like incredibly adamant about this, and it's something we use a lot with those supplements, or kind of like using a brand because we know and trust an individual who's actually involved with it, that they have their active ingredient list listed out. They've got all those ingredients and the exact grams, exact percentages, the exact ratios of all those that are in it, and that's a very transparent company. So, again, it's to look at what's the actual transparency within a company if you are going to buy their brand or their supplement or their whatever. But when it comes to um, let's say like e-products, when it comes to like a download my booklet, download my thing that's gonna fix your problem, what can we look for there to spot maybe some bullshit or a bit of snake oil salesman kind of stuff that's going on with that?

SPEAKER_00

I think to be as transparent as possible with these, like anything you're downloading is just they collect data at the end of the day. Like, they're not lucky to put out stuff for free that's gonna actually be of benefit of you because like they could easily just be like, here's an ebook on how to improve the size of your arms, and it could just be one page saying train your arms more, but you've given me your email address and your phone number, now I can just hound you until you will sign up for coaching so that I can then make more money off of you and then maybe add more uh size to your arms. So I think again at the same time, it's like just looking at the language they're using on the things, it's like if it is like how to do X in X amount of time, then it's like, right, is there any actual backing behind that? Because like again, that's not really if you had the information that was going to give mind-blowing results in 10 weeks, 12 weeks, or whatever, you wouldn't just be handing that out for free. And it's the same, but anything that like and I'd like I think it'd be interesting to kind of jump into the psychology of it as well, because it's amazing how we're we'll always like pull stuff from people if they give you for free. Because I've actually seen videos of that where they were like handing out like pieces of like I think it was like a steel crisp, basically in like a little bag. So people walk down the street and it's like, Do you want this? It's free, and they take it just because they said it's free, so they just want to consume as much as possible. But then when it comes to actually say supplements and stuff were the opposite, like where we would prefer to kind of pay a bit more for something because we believe like if we pay more, it's gonna give better results, or it must be good because it's expensive and people are getting like shafted left, right, and center because they're just buying shit thinking that they're gonna get so many results from it, but they get nothing. Um, when as we said, like the best things you can actually do are all going to be free at the end of the day. Um, and I know that kind of goes against with like the idea of like the ebook is free, so that's offering results, but again, you have to look at it is why it's being offered and who is offering it to you. Is it a person that actually is behind it all trying to sell you something which is themselves and their coaching services? So anytime you kind of see something online like that, um just always kind of be wary of the reason why it's being offered to you, um, and just use the information, I think, with um a bit of skepticism, but I think just be open as well, but still be a bit skeptical at the same time.

Free Wins: Sleep, Steps, Stress Control

SPEAKER_01

Now, just as a I'm gonna own it there as well, too, and say, like, we've done that lead gen, but like we did one, and I think it was one of our most successful lead gen uh pieces that we had was like how to drop 12 pounds before Christmas or how to drop a stone forever and these kind of things. But like that was an hour-long uh piece where it was actually a webinar that we had recorded, and like it was literally a step-by-step, and I'm not saying listen, we're there's a lot of people doing a lot of very good things and very honest things as well. Too, not everyone is out to get you in industry, but you'll see these kind of clickbaity titles do this one exercise or download this one program or this one PDF or this one session that's gonna like fix your glute issues or grow your arms or build a bigger chest or whatever it might be. But the more detailed I can be in it, obviously, the better. And the unfortunate thing is like people won't probably pay as much attention to it uh if it's something that takes them an hour to consume versus like one page as well. And like I know we're absolute whores for it as well, me and you. Like, we've downloaded I don't know how many different like programs and different PDFs and bought different uh bits and pieces like that as well, too. And we kind of be very like quick to click, I guess, as well, too, because like we think we're missing out on some information, or maybe there might be something useful, and you know, we're kind of information hoarders that way too. But it's again to look at these kind of things and say, right, they're collecting my data, that's fair. I'm gonna give up my data, but what am I getting back in return? Can I actually use it and implement it? But then also, is that actually for me? You know, because this is a lot of it then. Uh, is are there promising results with people who are actually like me? Or is it like just some random stuff as well, too, that's coming out? You know, one of those other aspects you'll see with it as well, uh, in terms of like social media, that you'll find it's like do this one exercise, and this one thing changed my chest. It was one thing changed my glutes, one thing changed my arms forever. That one thing didn't make any difference to their glutes, their chest, their arms, their biceps, their glutes, or whatever it might be. It was the fact that they were continually doing it and they actually saw results from it by the continual exposure to training that muscle group. That one exercise won't make difference at all, as well. So, again, like give a lot of like you know, wide birth to these kind of things. Uh, we think we've got a lot of information boxed off here for you guys that you're going to be actually able to decipher, or maybe just, I guess, the main take at home from this is like to just be a little bit more skeptical, to be a little bit give it all a wider berth when it comes to deciphering some information online. That again, there is a lot of great information out there, but just ask yourself, what are they actually trying to get from me here? What is the promise that's been delivered? What is the outcome that I'm being promised here with this? And is it actually realistic for someone like me to be able to do that? Maybe it is, maybe it's not. But if it is sounding too good to be true, chances are it is. We hope you guys got a ton of value from this episode. As always, we're here to help you out. Just drop us a DM if there's something that you say, you know what, Larry, what do you think it is here? I've seen this online, just shoot it across to us, and we're gonna be able to help you out, maybe to decipher it as well too, and to get a better understanding of that. I'd love to see you some uh send some across to both myself and Daniel. For now, we're gonna sign off. Hope you guys got a ton of value from this one. Until the next one.