#72 The one about supplements.

Tired of buying bottles that promise the world and deliver little more than expensive urine? We went straight to the point: how to choose supplements that actually work, when to take them, and when to keep your wallet shut. No codes, no hype—just a clear path through the supplement maze.

We start by reframing why supplements exist: to fill real gaps, not to replace sleep, training, or decent food. From there, we build a small, proven stack that suits most people—quality multivitamins, omega-3, vitamin D3, magnesium glycinate, and creatine monohydrate—explaining the evidence, the forms that absorb, and the everyday benefits. You’ll learn why a multivitamin is only an insurance policy, how to hit EPA and DHA targets if you rarely eat oily fish, and why vitamin D is so vital in Ireland and across northern Europe.

We also get practical about pitfalls. Magnesium isn’t magic unless you choose the right form and dose. Creatine isn’t a steroid, but it does demand proper hydration to avoid gut issues, and simple Creapure monohydrate beats flashy gummies every time. We break down proprietary blends, label tricks, and influencer tactics, and explain when niche options like inositol or CoQ10 make sense for specific conditions. Along the way, we keep returning to the foundation: test first, target the real deficiency, then retest to confirm your effort paid off.

If you’ve ever stared at a shelf of powders and pills and wondered what’s real, this conversation gives you a trustworthy checklist: fewer products, better quality, transparent labels, third-party testing, and habits that do the heavy lifting. If you’re unsure about a product you’ve seen, send it our way and we’ll tell you straight. If this helped you cut the clutter, subscribe, share with a friend who loves a gummy, and leave a review with the one supplement you’re keeping—and the one you’re ditching.

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Transcript

Welcome And Why Supplements Confuse

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hey guys, you're listening to the Gen Pop Podcast with me, your host, Larry Doyle. Each week, I'm gonna bring in friends, guests, and experts to help enhance your health, fitness, and wellness journeys. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the conversations. You are welcome back to another episode of the Gen Pop Podcast, where this week, co-host Daniel and I, we're diving into all things supplements. It's a minefield, it's full of snake oil salesmen and quite frankly, bullshit and expensive products that you don't need. So we're going to dispel a lot of mistruths and a lot of myths around the supplement industry. Probably cost them millions in the process of this episode as well. Daniel, let's go. Supplements.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Yeah, I think it is um a big topic of conversation for a lot of people because for a lot of people, like they think that the supplements they take or supplements they use are like the missing link, or that's going to be the be all in the all of them actually reaching their goals that they'll think that it's a supplement deficiency, essentially that they're suffering from, that's the reason they can't reach their goals. Um, I think that's why you will see so many products on the market that are promising whatever drastic results it's gonna be, and people are buying them because like it's so easy to consume something. Like if a pill is offered to you saying it's gonna it's promising you all these magic benefits, that's a lot easier than you actually making a change to your routine or your habits or your nutrition or your training, whatever it is. So I think a lot of people, once they dive into it, or even once they get to the end of this podcast, they'll realize that like it's only very, very few supplements they likely would kind of recommend to most people, if even then.

Test Before You Toss Money

The Core Stack We Trust

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Yeah. And you'll see this all the time, like there's this kind of clickbaity, you know, DME subs for my like list of like supplements for high performing men and all this kind of bullshit. It's like there's a list of like 35 supplements. One, like you'd you'd literally be rattling all day if you were taking the fucking things, but two, it's gonna like rattle up a bill of like multiple hundred euros worth of supplements that may not necessarily be needed at all, right? Some of these supplements can be great. Uh, yes, you can look and you can pull research out of your ass on a lot of stuff and say, like, well, this has been proven to to give a 428% increase in testosterone in men. But it's like, no, it's actually like a small increase in testosterone in mice. And it's like, that's you're not a fucking mouse, you don't need it. Like, but we can cherry-pick studies and we can cherry-pick the data and the research and kind of make it sound incredibly good. Like, they're not for the most part, and like we we hate to like be like such cynics at times on this, but like the reality of it is like a lot of supplements are complete and utter bullshit and a waste of time, and just essentially costing you a lot of money and creating a lot of expensive urine. Uh, I guess let's go through and through the good. Like, what do we actually recommend? Um, and again, right, take this with a pinch of salt. Um, that unless you actually get like a lot of meticulous blood work done, we don't really know exactly what you should be taking because you may have already a very high level of B vitamins, and we might recommend a multivit that's collated and it's got all the best nutrients in it, but it's actually just bumping your B vitamins way too high. We don't know until you actually get a baseline done. So, first and foremost, if you're ever thinking about looking at anything that you think you may be deficient in, go test, see if you're actually deficient in it, supplement the hell out of it, retest again, see that it actually proves any benefit for you, as opposed to just kind of blindly following. There's one or two that we can blindly recommend that will see great benefit for a lot of people, and we'll talk about those. But for the most part, test and assess, and you'll actually see what you need. Um, let's go through a baseline of what we do recommend to people for the most part.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

Yeah, I guess with with that caveat in mind, I think like for the most part, what we would kind of recommend for a lot of people, at least what I would recommend would be like a good quality multivitamin, good quality omega, good quality vitamin D3. Um, magnesium probably would be the other one as well that I would recommend. And I guess creatine probably would be one as well that a lot of people kind of surprisingly like we it's you get inundated with questions about creatine non-stop, but it's such a simple supplement to take, but and it's the most researched supplement out there, but it's the one that people are still very cautious about using. And again, there are going to be certain populations that maybe you should not use it, or maybe you should recommend like using less of it. But for the most part, you're gonna see benefits all across the board, not just from people that are using the gym or training, whatever, like from a cognitive standpoint. Like there's a ton of research out there about using higher doses of creatine. But I think, as I said, multivitamin, a good quality omega-3, vitamin D3, magnesium, and I think creatine probably would be my list of go-to's for the most part.

Multivitamins As A Safety Net

SPEAKER_01 4:58

So with a multivit, it's going to be that kind of like fail-safe. We know that people aren't getting enough broad spectrum nutrients within their intake. If you what was the number I actually seen on it? Like you have to have like somewhere between 35 to 50 different plants, fruits, and vegetables in your intake every single day to be ticking all those boxes. That's not possible. Most people that are probably listening to this are struggling to get a bit of absolutely boiled to death broccoli in their plate each day, and that's it. Like they don't have uh the time in the day, the preparation, the availability of that many different foods, or the want or desire or need. Just let me take a little pill that's gonna cost me a euro a day, maybe, and I'm happy enough to do that, instead of having to eat all these fruits and veggies and stuff on top. Again, don't let your diet be negatively impacted just because you're starting to take a supplement on top, right? So if you think that you now you can get away with eating shit and like loads of processed foods, just because you're taking a multivitamin, you're not gonna be taking those boxes. Like, think of like the long-term habits and lifestyle that you actually want to have. Chances are you're gonna be eating like that 80% whole food, nutrient-rich and dense type of foods. They're gonna take a lot of the boxes. But this is like that fail-safe on top. You won't take a multivit and be like, again, He-Man screaming, I have the power up on top of the mountain and kind of doing all the things. But it's doing a lot of work behind the scenes, it's gonna be doing a lot of like again, uh, energy production on a cellular level being improved there across the board, uh protecting the nervous system. There's gonna be like again, a lot of benefits across the board from it. They're gonna be doing anything behind the scenes, you're not really gonna feel a whole lot of it. Um, an omega, if you're taking a lot of oily fish, if you're having a lot of sardines, a lot of mackerel, uh, I used to say salmon, but for the most part, all salmon now is going to be caged farmed salmon, which is completely shit. Do not ever use it, do not ever eat it. I know I'm an angry fisherman who's pissed off about the stocks in the world being depleted, mostly because of these assholes with their fish farms. So just don't uh utilize uh salmon thinking that it's gonna be good oily, um, omega-tree quality, nutrient-rich foods. It's not very poor quality proteins in it as well. But if we look at the little tins of sardines and mackerel that are in Lidlinaldi, you're getting three to four grams of omegas within one of those tins. Probably should have one every day, it will stop you needing to have that little bottle of uh deep sea cold water uh fish uh oil that's gonna be like kept in that little refrigerator for you. So you don't need to take that anymore. But if you're not having those on a daily basis, if you're not having like oily fish, if you're not having like really good quality uh eggs, etc. etc. You're probably gonna need to um leverage off an amiga supplement. Um the benefits of an amiga supplement, let's jump in there. Give me a quick overview of that, I know.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

Uh supports brain joint health, uh anti-inflammatory, which I think is one of the key things it sends out to a lot of people because everyone loves talking about inflammation, um, but also helps with like the absorption of a lot of vitamins as well, because you might see some vitamins would be like called fat-soluble vitamins, so like ADEK, I believe, um, are all fat soluble, so like it actually helps with the absorption of them. Um, so it can be beneficial to use that alongside um any vitamins you are taking, like if you were to combine it with your multivitamin, you actually will see an uptake of the nutrients from that multivitamin as well. So that's one thing that people have to be mindful of as well is the the form of the supplement they're taking, then kind of like the timing as well and what they're kind of taking it with can all be um as useful as well because you might not be getting the full benefit of the supplement itself. But I think those will be kind of the the key the key um benefits from using an omega-3 supplement.

Omegas From Tins Or A Bottle

SPEAKER_01 8:43

There are one or two others you can see, like uh blood glucose regulation management as well to a degree, but like obviously the diet's gonna be huge, and your exercise and activity as well is gonna be uh a very important one there. Uh, vitamin D3, like again, that's one of the ones that we can just assume you're gonna have low vitamin D3 levels. If you are based in northern Europe, if you're uh living in a country that has limited daylight exposure, uh very low levels of sunlight throughout the wintertime, you can bet your ass you're gonna be low on vitamin D. Um, I've done some research on myself before where I had my bloods done before and after a week-long sun holiday. Uh, was very low on my vitamin D the week prior to going away. Again, it was like during the autumn kind of winter uh months as well, too. Got my bloods tested when I came back, vitamin D was through the roof. So I didn't need to go and supplement thereafter because my vitamin D was nice and high, and it sustained itself and kind of dwindled off over the winter and kind of needed to be bumped back up that little bit more. But for the most part, if you're not getting a sun holiday, if you're not having really good daylight exposure, you can take a vitamin D supplement too, and it's gonna be absolutely massive. Like it's uh it's kind of been touted as like a super drug, and I think it should be like a bit of a wonder supplement, whatever we want to call it. That it is fantastic again for uh immune system function. Uh, it's been huge, like particularly like over COVID, we've actually seen that people talking, and vitamin D was one of the ones that got championed a lot throughout that, thankfully, with it all. Um, and there's a lot of whole massive benefits across the board of vitamin D, but it's like super cheap, really easy to take. Uh, there's no real issues with it again um for consuming. You can't really overdose on it too much. Now, again, don't come back and take like 50,000 IU's a day and tell me that you ended up in hospital because of it. Take it with a pinch of salt. I'm not telling anyone to go take anything, but at the same point, it is um very useful across the board at that. Um, magnesium, then. So a lot of people think magnesium is a sleep supplement. It's not really the case, right?

SPEAKER_00 10:35

Yeah, I mean, it's going to depend on the form you're using as well, because there's going to be different forms of magnesium. Um, I think the one you're kind of looking at really when it comes to like sleep and relaxation would be uh glycerin form. But a lot of people then would be say taking magnesium citrate, it's a couple of different ones as well, but like they're all gonna offer their own benefits and they're all going to be bumping up your total magnesium. But like again, if you're looking at a magnesium supplement purely for sleep purposes or for relaxation purposes, you would like to be looking at the glycinate form.

Vitamin D In Low Sun Countries

Magnesium Forms And Pitfalls

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Yeah, and that's gonna be massively beneficial across the board at that as well, too. And like even just magnesium itself is actually responsible for energy production. So, like, it's quite the opposite of actually what people think that they're gonna get that. Now, when you're taking magnesium, you're better off to again get a higher quality version. Like with any of these, don't go get an emotivate from like Honda Barret or Boots or like any like chain stores, very low quality, they're not gonna be collated. The ability to absorb and actually utilize the nutrients that are in there is gonna be very, very low. Um, you're also gonna see like cheaper quality of nutrients uh attached into those at times where you might see like magnesium oxide or zinc oxide, again, very low absorption rates within that, that we want to have like more higher quality uh benefits from those or require higher quality nutrients that are attached into that. Um, something you might see a lot of as magnesium citrate. If you go take in way too much magnesium citrate, you're gonna go poop your pants and you're gonna have a really bad time. So be very careful and very cautious uh with the dosage there. That again, if you feel like you're really stressed, uh if you're really stressed, the nervous system's gonna be ramped up. Now you take your magnesium citrate on top, you're absolutely sitting on the toilet for the afternoon. Um, so again, just be very, very cautious there. Magnesium, uh bisglycinate or glycinate is gonna be like the go-to there for most people with that as well. Um, then creatine, not a steroid, one of the most researched uh data-driven supplements that are out there. Uh, the one I get a lot because I suffer from a bit of male pattern baldness is people asking, Larry, am I going to go bald like you if I start taking creatine? No. There was like one research study done way back, and it showed like really weak links towards it, that there was like some form of um correlation back to like male pattern baldness or like male balding from those who are using creatine as a supplement, and it's not been proven, or no real risk or no real concern with that at all. Um, creatine is one of those I've dabbled in it for a long time. It's probably the one that's been most consistent in my intake over the years. Um, would have started off originally as kind of like obviously from muscle building and gains and doing all the things that it never really promised I was going to do anyway, thinking I was going to get jacked in huge. Um, you will see a small bit of fluid or tension when you take muscle, uh when you take creatine, but we want that. Think of the muscle like an empty glass, and the creatine kind of goes in and scoops up fluid out your gut and drives it into the muscle cell, and it's now more hydrated. Like we want a hydrated muscle cell. A hydrated muscle cell is a really healthy muscle cell. So we're now driving some fluid from the gut into the muscle cell. Really good thing. However, if you've got a really low fluid intake, your uh creatine, when you ingest it, is still going to do the same thing. It's gonna pull that fluid from your gut. So now you've got even less fluid in your gut. So you're gonna find like some digestive distress, you might find some bloating, you might find some nausea, you might find some loose duel or diarrhea, etc. That's not gonna be a good time. So if you're taking uh creatine monohydrate, the big thing people overlook there is hydrate monohydrate within the creatine supplement itself, that you need to be having sufficient fluids available, that if you're going to leverage off that. That's why most likely you've had some digestive distress or you've found uh some pore issues from using and leveraging of supplementation with creatine before. Um, a general rule for hydration is that you have a liter of water per 25 kilos of body weight. So if you're 100 kilos, that's four liters. Um, if you sweat a lot, if you're using very high level uh high dose of creatine, you probably need to take a little bit more fluid on top. If you're not drinking enough fluid, don't take creatine. End of. Um but I would have taken it now recently more so for kind of more of the cognitive benefits that have been reported with it. Kind of did a little bit of a trial, moving up towards like 20, 25 grams on a daily basis. I don't know, the jury's still out, I'm still kind of dumb, so I'm not really like convinced too much that it's like been massively beneficial. Um, but again, creatine, super cheap, super easy to access. It's not one of those that's like faked or that it's going to be like um laced with other performance-enhancing drugs, stuff like that. Like, you know, people are really worried about like their supplement quality that like they're gonna be a lot of the people who get like popped for having like performance-enhancing drugs in their system, were actually using performance-enhancing drugs because as a raw product, they're very expensive to produce because they're very powerful. They're not gonna add that into something like creatine that costs like eight cents a serving. So they're you're not gonna be getting like D-ball in your creatine, right? So you're gonna be fine. Um, so that's like again something to be mindful of. It's it's such a if you are looking at like uh you want to be like safe taking creatine, creapure, make sure it's a creatine monohydrate with creapure within that. It's uh a German pharmaceutical version of it, basically. That's you know the most proven and researched uh collected with that as well, too. So like outside of those, like you could go down the rabbit hole of looking at loads of okay, there is gonna be a lot of like conditions that people may need to take certain supplements for that are gonna be very beneficial. But I'm not just gonna randomly tell people to go take a nozzitol. If you've got PCOS, maybe it's gonna be a good shout. If you've got um heart health concerns, maybe we might look at CoQ10, we might look at something like that being implemented along too. But only when there's actually an issue and a concern and a worry and a gap that needs to be filled, therefore you go look first, lifestyle, make sure that if there's any lifestyle adjustments that I can make around it, because people will look at stuff like I'm gonna take this sleep supplement and that's gonna cure all my problems. It's because you've got no sleep structure or no sleep routine, and you eat and consume way too much food close to bedtime, and you consume way too much caffeine close to bedtime, and you're hyper stressed. That's probably why your sleep is out of sync. Adding a little paline on top of that is gonna do fuck all. So be very clear about like the thing you're trying to resolve with that usage of that supplement that you're trying to take alongside of it. Is there any lifestyle interventions that I can adjust, modify, or improve, or remove, and then assess that in on top of that? Do I actually need a supplement then? Um, what would be one of the typical ones you'd see there, Daniel, when people are kind of looking at a supplement that you've been asked about, like clients maybe asking your people on IG or whatever, saying, Should I take this thing?

Creatine Facts Hydration And Dosing

SPEAKER_00 17:07

Uh I think ashrogenda would probably be the other one as well. I think that's kind of picked up and been uh kind of come a bit more into the mainstream in the last number of years as well, that a lot of people are kind of again, they all of a sudden have an ashwagenda deficiency that like that's the reason that they can't sleep at night, or it's the reason that they're stressed, is they're not getting ashroganda. Um, and I think ashroganda went through a period there where that was nearly being touted as like a steroid that like that was going to like cause huge gains in the gym or huge increases in strength. Um, but I think that outside of what we've kind of listed already, I think that would be another one that's very common for people to inquire about is the use of ashwagon, and like would we recommend it? And again, same as all supplements, we're all going to say like they can all serve a purpose in certain populations at certain different times. But again, you kind of have to look at why do you want to or why do you need to use it in the first place? Like, if you're looking to use a sleep supplement, have you got your sleep in order? If you're looking to use something for uh whatever energy it's going to give you, it's like have you got your nutrition in order? Have you got your sleep in order? Have you got your stress in order? Like, if you're doing everything within those realms and you're still looking for that one extra percent, then maybe you can use it. So um, I would only likely use Ashroganda uh again, like short term. Is that something that I would look to use like over a long period of time? Um, but I think ashroganda probably would be the other one that I would say would be the most common um inquired about.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

I would see like testosterone boosters and all these kind of things, right? Whether it's um tonkatale, I guess it's for doja, all these kind of things, like and they're like promoting these like steroid-like responses from testosterone and like the production of it. There's only one thing that is gonna produce steroid-like outcomes, and that is actual steroids. Like, there is nothing else, like you're you're gonna see Olympians using like tunkadali because of like the major benefits, they're not, they're still gonna be using steroids, so it's like they're they're not gonna be wasting their time taking something that doesn't work. So, again, it's like looking at and we we talked about this before in like one of the podcasts about good and bad information, where like you're gonna have a lot of guys promoting supplements on podcasts, for example. Uh, again, not us because we're not chills, but they're gonna say this supplement is gonna be the thing. Oh, by the way, I've got 25% off this month for my listeners. You know, download uh and you know, enter bullshit25 at checkout, and you can get 25% off that as well, too. They're gonna get hundreds of thousands in kickback, and that's because of suckers like us. I've been uh liable for that years ago, many, many years back, falling for different things and different supplements being promoted like that. Because, well, if they said it and they're that jacked and they're that huge and they're that amazing, sure, I'm gonna have to try it because they said so in their position of authority. So, again, it's it's taking it with a pinch of salt and actually doing a bit of research before you do the impulse click buy thing. Um, because again, you'll have the likes of Liver King and all these fucking clowns who are out there like saying that like you need the uh bovine testicles to improve your testicles. You need the bovine brain to improve your brain function. It's a massive amount of horseshit. So it's like again, just don't fall for it and be a little bit skeptical, I guess, particularly when it comes to the supplement industry, because it's heavily unregulated when it comes to those like outside the realm of the ones we mentioned earlier that are like the very like baseline uh nutrient-dense supplements, whatever that are very important. Um, it gets really grey really quickly, and there's no regulation, there's no kind of um control for the most part within a lot of it, and particularly in the states, like Europe is not too bad, it's not like that heavily uh influenced now at the moment, but there's a lot of stuff creeping in. But particularly in the States, there's a lot of like just complete and utter bullshit that's been like pushed across, and obviously it's gonna leak across to the various different platforms, and people might be listening to and stuff like that as well. Too um, so when we look at supplement quality, like and quantity, particularly, like when you're looking at the likes of a multivitamin, we don't want something that's gonna just get us into the survive bracket. We want to be in the thrive bracket. So when you see an RDA and it's giving you like 100% of the RDA for everything, it's ticking it out of the boxes. And I'm thinking of like something like um those like oh, I'm not even gonna name the brands, but like the little sachets or the little like plink plink fizz fizz kind of um effervescent tablets that you can put into your morning water and you know boost it back, and you're good to go. They've all got like 100% of the RDA, which is enough to stop you getting like scurvy and rickets and all these fucking nonsense diseases that we used to get on the seven seas when we were all pirates back in the day. So now it's like I don't want to have just 100% of the RDA, I want to be well above that for the most part. So when you select B vitamins, they should be up in like the thousands for the most part with a lot of them. Um, because again, like some of these can be very weak in their absorption, and we want to have way over the threshold because again, the RDA is going to be enough to stop you getting disease essentially. I guess it's gonna be enough just to make you survive, not thrive. So again, we want to have like very high quality nutrient, we want to have very nutrient dense for the most part, like multis and stuff should be collated when you're looking at those actual nutrients that are in that as well. Too. Um, is there anything that you'd kind of look at there, Daniel, as kind of like red flags and like things that people should look out for and be really cautious of when they're parting with their hard-earned cash to get some supplements?

Beyond Basics: Use Cases Only

SPEAKER_00 22:17

I think when you're reading like the nutrition label, uh, one thing is to have a look at it is preparatory blends as well. Um, because they're not going to give you the actual dosing for each ingredient, they just lump it in together and just call it performance matrix or health matrix or whatever it is, and you'll just get a total for all the ingredients together.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Um alphabetical order as well, too, as opposed to actual. So when you've got on a nutrient label, the very first thing that is written on that is should be the nutrient that is most um highly dosed within that, and then like tapering back to least dosed as well, too. Sorry, I just had to cut across another one.

Spotting Hype And Bad Labels

SPEAKER_00 22:54

Exactly. And like it you'll see that with food products as well, just as like a quick tip if you ever look at food labels and stuff, like the whatever's this is first, is going to have the highest amount in that food itself. Um, but I think that's one of the big things to be wary of, and you will see time and time again with even brands that you would expect to be somewhat reputable because everyone is pushing that supplement or ever, and then you look at it and it's like you don't even know what's actually in it. Well, you know what's in it, but you don't know how much is actually in it. Um, and I think recently, well, in the last couple of months, well, it was in the last couple months that I saw the video at least that like uh it was a Jim Smith doing like third-party testing on all these creatine gummies, and like, yeah, and they all came in like way under. Um, some of them didn't even have creatine in them, it was really just eating sweets. Yeah, um, and again, this is where we prefer people, if you are going to use a supplement, is to actually invest in it. But obviously, do a bit of research first, but you will probably have to spend a small bit more than you likely would have expected. It's not going to be simply a case of walking to your local supermarket and buy the cheapest multivitamin on the on the shelf. Um, and I think uh that's where you really kind of have to think about like why are you taking a multivitamin? Why are you taking these things? It's to actually get the full benefits from it. It's the same as like you wouldn't like eat poor quality food. So, like, why would you take poor quality vitamins which are ultimately just gonna piss out at the end of the day?

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Yeah, and again, like it's it's just being really, really aware of what you're actually one, is there a gap you need to fill? Two, are you gonna fill it with something that's just shite and just like hope that it works, or you're gonna fill it with something that actually is proven a beneficial? Now, again, that's not to say like that the most expensive supplement is gonna be the best one as well, too, because like you'll see now like a lot of aggressive marketing, and like you know, we're the best out there and whatever as well, too. And there's like you know, a whole host of claims and research, and we've got scientists, and they'll just have random b-roll of people in fucking white coats, like you know, pouring little pipettes into different things, and it's like makes it look great, but again, it's like just not really heavily researched. Uh, they're pulling like very thin studies out of the air that like don't really have much data there to back them up. Uh, again, you'll see like a lot of like different mushrooms now at the minute. Like, that's another one that's really getting hyped up of like shroom formulas of uh for men, for fertility, for erectile dysfunction, for uh the andropause, the menopause, the whatever pause, it's like they're gonna fix all their problems, and essentially they're just trying to like put some form of adaptogenic curve that's gonna like calm your nervous system a little bit or have some kind of positive response. But there's not really enough of those nutrients in that to actually have a positive response. Plus, if you don't change your lifestyle, it's like that old special K ad, it's like where like the chick got in shape and she had like the red dress on, and then it's like the tiny caveat as part of a healthy, balanced diet and exercise regime. It's like it wasn't a fucking special K. But if that was the anchor that got you to take the thing, cool. Like sometimes with supplements, I don't mind people taking it if it placebo is them into having more of a healthy approach towards their day. That if it's the fact you took that bullshit supplement in the morning, but now you're actually more mindful around your sleep, and now you think that it's the supplement that's giving you better sleep, but you've got better sleep, I don't give a shit. I'm not gonna say it's a you're a liar and you're an idiot and gonna educate you maybe around it for sure. But if you've got better sleep, you've got better sleep. That was the outcome we were looking for. So it's like, okay, if you need to have that in and you believe and you're gonna take all the positive action steps towards improving your sleep, just because you've taken that pill and it proved to do fuck all, but you keep on doing the positive action steps, deadly. Have at it. You've now improved your sleep. I don't really care. It's costing you a bit more and you don't need to do it, but still, if you do it, you do it. It's you're now getting the benefit that you actually want. So the biggest uh the biggest thing to assess is right, right? Can I make any lifestyle modifications, improvements, adjustments? Yes or no? Uh am I actually deficient in this? Do I need to supplement this? Do I need to invest in this um supplement? Is there actual research? Is there data there that's actually you know heavily researched and heavily promoted as opposed to like just some airy, fairy thin kind of bullshit, or has it just been promoted by influencers and whatnot as well too? So, again, a major pinch of salt with all that as well, too. Um, talking about a pinch of salt, coming back to supplements, electrolytes probably don't need them as well too, for the most part for most people. Um, salt your meals. If you've got really high blood pressure and you start like taking a load of electrolytes, chances are it's going to jack up your blood pressure further. You know, you can take some potassium, that's gonna bring it down, but don't start playing with that too much because you can give yourself a heart attack, and that's not really a good time. Um, so again, just approach with caution those who are either telling you to lope in the salt and like take millions of milligrams of salt throughout the day, uh, and they those who are also just promoting electrolytes willy-nilly as well too. You can have a big impact on your overall hydration status, uh, positive or negative with that as well, too. So please just understand what you're doing with them all. Um, any closing lines on supplements, Daniel? It's obviously it's it's a sketchy world out there, there's billions being made on it, and you know, a lot of people been capitalized on from their uh you know demand and dire need at time like to improve their situation, but just kind of been led to believe that they can be magically improved by taking X supplement.

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Yeah, I guess it all goes back to the the saying, like if it sounds too good to be true, it is. Like it's it's it there's no miracle drugs or no miracle supplements out there, like even supplements that do have a benefit, even for some like fat loss. Again, will have that caveat of you still need to have in a calorie deficit to see any sort of effects in fat loss. Um, you still will need to have good quality sleep in there to actually see any benefits from any sort of supplement, they will promise you any energy benefits from there. So it still will come down to like what you're doing with all your lifestyle factors, and like I think a lot of the supplements you covered are kind of like health-related supplements that you will kind of have to first get your bloods tested to make sure that you actually this is something you need to take in the first place. Um, but I guess do your research. Examine.com is a good resource if people are kind of interested in learning a bit more about each um supplement. If they ever see any claims about it, that you want to just check and you can see what doses you would recommend and whatnot and what form. Um, so I definitely would bookmark that site if you're ever interested. But I think, like as we said, it's not the be all and end all of everything. We're just looking to kind of use them just to fill in any potential gaps that might be there. Like if you're already kind of covering yourself, like as you said, if you're eating oily fish multiple times per week, you probably don't need an omega supplement. So, like, we're just looking to fill in gaps with most of these things. So do your research, be responsible, and uh be smart, I think. Be smart.

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And again, if you're not sure about anything, we're gonna be you know unbiased. We're not selling any supplements, we're not promoting any crap as well. So it's like feel free to reach out, touch base with us, like, hey, see this reel, seen this thing, just DM us. We'll tell you pretty quick whether it's gonna be wasting your time or whatever as well, too. But ultimately, you're probably gonna be saving a lot of money in the process and just not having that shelf load of shit that is of no benefit whatsoever that every single house has, and uh it's just ultimately collecting dust and going to be turfed out with no benefit to you. Hopefully, you've got a lot from this, and in terms of what you need to do, what you need to be aware of, what you need to be mindful of. But if you've got any questions at all, just reach out, touch base, drops a DM, drops an email. We're always here to help you guys out and uh help you on your quest to overall health and just vitality and improvement across the board. We've hope you got a lot from this one. Until the next one.