Episode 309: Omega- The Art of Airsoft Through Omega's Lens

Ever experienced the heart-pumping thrill of airsoft and the frustration when honor is left in the staging area? Join us as we navigate the nuanced culture of this action-packed sport alongside our guest, Omega—an artist and airsoft craftsman who's carved a unique niche in this community. From the adrenaline of game play to the craftsmanship behind custom parts, Omega offers an enlightening perspective on maintaining integrity in a game where hits are called on trust, and how his solo journey has influenced his standout role in the airsoft world.

It's not all high-octane strategies and camaraderie, though. We get real about the darker side of the community, discussing troubling behaviors like theft and aggression that can tarnish the sport's image. I take a candid look at the consequences of such actions, sharing personal anecdotes and exploring the influences of upbringing on sportsmanship. The conversation also turns to the perplexing world of social media, where airsoft content creators encounter baffling censorship, contrasting starkly with the platform's tolerance for real-world violence.

Wrapping up, we don't just leave you with the challenges; we're about offering solutions and perspective. We delve into the impact of disruptive players on airsoft's future, advocating for respect and accountability. Listen in to understand how implementing physical deterrents like t-shirt-only play could refocus attitudes, and why fostering a supportive environment is crucial for the sport's longevity. Together with Omega, we reflect on the responsibility we all share in shaping a community that upholds the values of fair play and mutual respect.

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Transcript

Erock: 0:22

Welcome, brother, appreciate you being on. Awesome. I'm gonna shout out my sponsors real quick. We got skirmish Skirmish tactical system with the bracelets. Y'all haven't played with these or tried them out yet. Go on to skirmish net and check it out. See if field near you has it. It's an awesome system that will be promoting this year. It's actually a balahack. They used it one of their Events recently and almost crashed their system because there's like 500 people using the skirmish systems pretty cool. And then jackal tactical is a new sponsor just recently. They're out of Pennsylvania. They'll be hosting events. Actually, one of the events in September is gonna be here in South Carolina GTI and I go to jack tack calm to check out their stuff. Awesome, all right, man. Well, you look. You look amazing. This is Cool. We met through a mutual friend online and heard about what, what you're doing with airsoft, and I love the look you got a cool mask with and a cool shirt and I like the the terrorist look man.

Omega: 1:40

These guys right here. I love district 15. I'm not a airsoft, or damn. Don't cancel me.

Erock: 1:49

I'm not making fun of mentally challenged people because some of them are actually a lot smarter than some of the cringy airsoft players.

Omega: 1:55

Hey man, I tell you what I worked with when I was a teenager.

Erock: 2:01

I worked in a charity with three of my friends and I worked with three of my friends and I worked with three of my friends and I worked with three of my friends and I worked with three of my friends and I worked with three of my friends a charity with that through a church with With retarded guys, you know, and they didn't mind being called retarded, like that was there. That was what you know, what we called them so and they made a lot of friends and they were very, very cool. I love work with them. But, yeah, some of the airsoft retards out here that I've seen and seen online, no, I'm not working with them, okay.

Omega: 2:36

I was out of similar story like my. One of my middle school teachers thought it would be a great form of punishment because there was this handicap kid named Nick not like anybody on here's gonna know he is, but he really had a thing for girls and One girl that hung out in our group like had a lot of dumb shit to say about the handicap kids. So one of the days I went over like a Nick she likes you and he's just one of her alone. Well, the teacher took it as me picking on him and I was like no fuck, are you kidding me? So she's like no, you get to spend the day over and help the class and I was like you literally just did me a favor. This is the funnest group of fucking people. It really is around all day Like I don't have to do schoolwork and hang out with these cool ass kids that are just fucking so happy.

Erock: 3:25

They're open man. They are like that's what real honesty is Like when you get around like retarded guys like they. You know people in general. They are one of the biggest things. That they are is honest, like a hundred percent. They're feeling like they wear everything on you know, on their sleeve, like out in the open.

Erock: 3:45

If they like you, you're gonna know it and typically like everybody they're very happy and very easy To to get along with because you never have to guess what they're thinking or how they're feeling about something like. They're gonna Tell you and you can work, you know just Whatever kind of project you're doing. They're, they're all in, man, yep.

Omega: 4:08

Yeah, no, they're awesome and yeah, I'd much rather spend an entire day with them than fucking one day on a goddamn field with these cringe softers.

Erock: 4:18

Yeah, so we were talking earlier and we had. You know, there's some, there's definitely some cringy air softers out there. I've seen them, seen them online. I haven't really I don't think I've had too many on here on the podcast that I know of, but I've definitely seen some videos where Guys I would just like Definitely wouldn't want to be on the field with them.

Omega: 4:46

Yeah, no, it's, it's pretty bad. I mean, we just had out here locally Umbrella Armory. Somebody broke into their freaking shop and stole thousands of dollars worth of shit. Yeah, I'm looking at the stuff on there and people like who the hell would do that? I'm like, well, first off, nobody else in society would have any steak and stealing airsoft shit. Right, this could only be fucking some cringy ass group of wannabe ghetto fucking pieces of shit that knew about that place in the first place. Yeah, you know, and had somebody else go and do it. You know I'm like you fucking kids and you know what? It would probably be some fucking little ghetto California kids doing some shit like that. Yeah, parents never punched them in their mouth a day in their life to freaking teach them. You know there's repercussions for your actions.

Erock: 5:42

That's what they need.

Omega: 5:42

Okay, that's what they need Discipline right, get out the bill, get out the spanking.

Erock: 5:51

Get out the paddle. You know, let your mom smack in a mouth. He say something wrong. Okay, my mom's a little Italian lady bro, she'll still smack me in a mouth. I say something wrong, oh.

Omega: 6:03

Shit dude. My dad was a 225 pound, fucking 5 foot 10 Hispanic dude. You know Kidney shot him as a joke.

Erock: 6:10

One time he throws a straight right and you're like Remember I was 16 and I was, you know, just pissing vinegar man. I was like getting fights and and just really I did not want to be at home right as a teenager, tired of all the stuff, with my parents. I thought I knew everything and they don't know shit. I remember my dad was at work and when I got home from school my mom was badger me about something whatever and I mouth off to her pretty bad, like a, yelled at her which I had never done before. I'm mouth off, but I never raised my voice like that. And when my dad got home, bro, he literally put the fear of God in me. He threw me up against the refrigerator and put his fat finger like he was a big dude he wasn't fat, you know, he was a big, husky dude and put his finger in my, in my chest and was like that's not your mom you're talking to, that's my wife and man. My face went white. I was like I never thought of it that, like that before.

Erock: 7:12

He was like no man, you're, you're, you're a man. Now that's my wife. I was like, oh shit, this is about to hit me and you know, he had like a big-ass fist and and but anyway, yeah, I scared the crap out of me. I never talked back to my mom again, okay, yeah, you can.

Omega: 7:31

You can see it in some of these dudes because I mean shit I had. I have an uncle who played professional football. I called my mom by her real name one time in front of him. He was, like you ever call your mom by her first name. Like that again I will fuck you up.

Erock: 7:50

I'm sure there's some airsofters you would like to do that to you, right?

Omega: 7:54

Fucked on. So what, what kind?

Erock: 7:56

of what kind of BS you guys seen on the field there?

Omega: 8:00

Well, I mean, it's kind of one of those things and you know it's funny when you hear, when they hear you bitch, that are you're just a fucking bitch and it's like no first off dude, you know you have a skill issue If you have to overshoot people, you know you got a skill issue period. We had a friend of mine had an incident in a park down here where some dudes fucking you know Minimum engagement distance they tried to play, though you were, you were within 10 feet, so they fucking dump on him and you know, I guess the dude who's ex-marine grabbed one of them and they're threw him through a wall and you know everybody comes off the field. And he said that the refs like came out and they're like what the fuck's going on is like oh, dude fucking back, don't be a point blank. Look, I'm bleeding everywhere like this dude, like literally bleeding from the shots, damn. And so the refs go and check it out and they're looking at video from a contour cam.

Omega: 8:58

And yeah, we all know you cringy fucks only run contour cans. For one reason that five foot looks like 15 feet of a contour cam oh right, it's fish eye. So they watch the video is like no, you know, from video he looks like he's pretty far out, and so you know I heard the dude is like no, look, I'm gonna shake their hand, let's just go back and play. I don't give a fuck, like I'm sorry that put my hands on them. Well then the cringy guys are like no, we don't feel comfortable with him being on the field. It's like wait, you act like a fucking prick and then when somebody puts hands on you, you play the victim. Uh-huh, yeah, fuck you out of here If you were watching. Yeah, fuck you, you're a bitch. Yeah, you're a bitch. You got skill issues period, fuck off. Go die somewhere.

Erock: 9:53

Strongly agreed.

Omega: 9:56

It's just, it's silly, like you know. You can go out there and be competitive. That's fine having a competitive like you know mindset, but you know just bending the rules and then acting like a prick when somebody calls you out on it. You got a skill issue. You're not competitive, you're a fucking punk.

Erock: 10:14

Hell, yes, like, how do? What's your, what's your team? I know your. Your call sign is Omega. You know I've never met before Until friend reached out, told me about you and said I need to have you on. And it seems like you're doing some good stuff in the airsoft community trying to get rid of some cringy Fox like that. And you know let's fill the field with honest, you know honor honorable players and People that know what they're doing and playing hard. So what? How did you get started with what you're doing and and you got a team or what. What's what's going on with With your airsoft stuff like that?

Omega: 11:06

Yeah, I don't have a team. I'm like I'm an individual player, like I'll go out every now and again and do that. I. I manufacture parts, you know I go. I know airsofters love custom. They love custom, you know, and I've got, I have a lot of equipment at my disposal so I started making some stuff. I actually had a very, very amazing opportunity to make some M lock rail covers for Punk from slaughter project, like anybody in airsoft knows slaughter project oh yeah, that's, you know. So I'm actually extremely freaking, you know thankful that he reached out and asked me to do some special for him.

Omega: 11:47

I bought one of his uppers for my AAP and you know I'm looking at my AP and I wanted to get the whole color scheme Right. And then I noticed you know, ctm is the only one who has removable panels for it. And I'm like, oh fuck, that's just gonna make my AAP look like everybody else's. I'm just gonna make my own panels. And then if airsoft saw that, and they're like Can you make some of those for me? Like let's put them on my site. So I made a bunch for him and I was like oh, you know what I Think, that's what I'm gonna do, like I, I'm not on a team, I play for myself.

Omega: 12:21

I know a lot of the guys on showgun. I know a lot of people on biohazard. No, I know a lot of airsofters but I just never was one of those types to run with the team. I'm an old-school graffiti artist kind of solo type thing. So yeah, airsoft is cool, I like it. I like you know, I did paintball when I was younger and airsoft is just a lot More affordable 5000 rounds.

Erock: 12:55

The different styles of gun and you can dress up in different kind of gear and do that. And you know, paintball is, it's very colorful but and you don't really have the issue of not calling your hits as much.

Omega: 13:17

I was watching this.

Erock: 13:19

I was interviewing somebody just a few weeks ago and I said have you seen we're talking? They were paintball or switched over, and they were young, you know, they were in their 20s and they had switched over to Airsoft. And I said, bro, have you seen this video? I just saw this video come up in my feet. I think it was from HK army, okay, and they post a video of one of their game modes that they do, for this is paintball, and one of their paintball like gameplay, tournaments or you know whatever, and I can't remember the name of the, this, the type of our mode, or whatever it was, but they have a four-pronged, you know, almost like a little windmill kind of thing, right, oh, like a.

Erock: 14:06

Texas star. Yes, yes, and you got a. You got a like it'll click over to Red or blue or whatever, and so it's on the top of a hill and what they did was they filmed. And then they put it in slow motion Of you know a guy from each team. You know somebody runs up and tries to flip it and, bro, this isn't slow-mo and it's like 4k, so you can see every detail of every paintball, and there's thousands of paintballs, just Operation on this center, bro, it is insane.

Erock: 14:38

I mean they're getting hit. The one dude has just a face mask on, you know the paintball mask, without like a hat or anything. He's getting pelting in the top of his head. I'm going, oh shit, like it is insane.

Omega: 14:50

But I saw something similar. There's a thing out here in California. They do it. I don't know if they do it every year anymore. They do it in copper opolis. It's an abandoned oil refinery and it's called operation and war and it's like a thousand person paintball mil sim event Whoa, they do it there. And I remember the last time I saw any commercial for it. That's it, that's the exact thing they had, for the commercial was like these dudes rush in this thing and it was just like Paintball vomit coming from each side of oh, dude, it's crazy looking man.

Erock: 15:29

Yeah, yeah, you definitely cannot say, oh, I didn't get hit yeah that's Airsoft is.

Omega: 15:40

It's weird, it's kind of funny that I don't think, brad, I don't pay attention to Paintball as much, I guess, as I should, considering that's where I came from. But you don't see a fuck ton of like this stupid influencer shit either Like you got the, you got the original guys, you know, like the owner of HK army or whatever, doing his promo commercials or whatever. But you don't have Ryan Greenspan out there pretending to be an influencer. He's like no, I am who I am. Yeah, we want to come out to do the training, that's it. But over on airsoft, it's yeah, we're on the airsoft side. You've got this stupid fucking like celebrity type thing going on. Yeah, and it's like dude, nobody knows who the hell you are, except if you play airsoft you're a big fish in a small pond brother, like for real.

Omega: 16:37

I yeah, tiny pond, and yeah, it's kind of one of those things that I always Saw, like I mean, how big is your influence? How many people who do not play airsoft Did you bring in to the community this year? None, well, you're not an influencer then. But yeah, you have to bring new bodies, you have to bring new customers to a product To really be like a marketing genius.

Erock: 17:06

Yeah, they say oh, I influenced them.

Omega: 17:09

Yeah, I influenced them to come play. You know, they're like real. I mean honestly, true influence is face-to-face being, out of the field, you know, playing with people and those people telling their neighbors or their Cousin, hey, you should come out and try and do this, because I mean, if you can look at airsoft, just like we're talking about earlier, when you do like the mystery box opening, my kids used to watch people on YouTube opening toys all fucking day. Did I go buy them those toys? No, I didn't know. My kids enjoyed watching it. Yeah, you know, but it was like, come on, like if, if you being whatever the hell your YouTube Freakin sensation is like, if you're not capturing people who just stumbled across your page they don't play airsoft and like, oh shit, this looks fun as hell and then they go and play the next day. You haven't done anything, you've got paid, you know, just for people watching your shit. Like you didn't change the community.

Erock: 18:16

Yeah.

Omega: 18:16

That's another cringy ass thing about freaking airsoft is, you know, as this whole influencer type mind, you know?

Erock: 18:25

what I don't like along those lines is People that start a YouTube channel and, as they is, their channel grows, they change to conform to the self-sensoring bullshit of YouTube and Instagram and Facebook. I Cannot stand. I literally Want to unfollow and unsubscribe to people that post on social media and Airsoft and say, plastered all over their video, not real guns. I'm like, dude, you've seen some of the War like the real war videos that are posted on Instagram like literally People getting blown up from a drone dropping a grenade on this Russian or Ukrainian soldier and blowing his fucking leg on Like it has zero to do with a real gun.

Omega: 19:29

Yeah, I do find that silly, cuz I'm like, yeah, I've got a lot of friends who've had their shit, just shadow band. And I'm like, yeah, that's fucking crazy, because I remember going on, you know Instagram, on One of my other accounts, and just you know, here it is. What was it? Oh, it's a recordables and a guy getting torn apart by a fucking mill or a lathe. Yeah, I'm just like the guy got flung into nine pieces, yeah, and I watched it all happen exactly.

Omega: 19:58

But that boy gun with an orange tip got an entire fucking account banned. It's. I can watch these in. Us teams beat each other right fucking to a bloody mess. Yep, that's okay, absolutely Gore violence.

Erock: 20:16

Violence yes, but you can't show an airsoft gun and and so you know. The other thing is like the Self-censoring thing. Like they start changing their verbiage to match what you know. If you want to cut out certain things, whatever, don't say certain words or whatever as you're doing it, but to change what you're saying. Like people say unalive now instead of suicide. I'm like, bro, I am I never self-censor on this channel, I just talk how we talk, like normal people. I Just cannot get on board with that Like these. These channels get once they get a bigger following a bigger falling. It's like, oh my gosh, I don't want to lose what I'm getting from this YouTube or whatever, and see that's how they suck you in. So I'm glad you're not like that man, you know, you're like a old, old-school graffitius. You're kind of like Against the system, right rage, against the machine, kind of thing, and you're not you're probably not down with that shit.

Omega: 21:19

No, I'm old-school graffiti, old-school punk. You know, I had a dad who was like what the fuck you're not holding that goddamn flashlight right when I'm working on the car? Yes, back in the side of the head, say granted, apparently, somebody reestablished the fucking lines of Millennialism. I fall into that goddamn category. I never had shit given to me, fuck you.

Erock: 21:43

I never understood those. I don't even know what. I don't even know what Jen I am. I don't give a fuck, I don't care, whatever I.

Omega: 21:51

Think you're actually Jen X. I don't hate the fact that I even know that, because I had an argument with another dude that I work with as an engineer much younger than me.

Erock: 21:59

So what is it?

Omega: 22:03

Yeah, it goes by when you're born. You had the baby boomers, which was everybody born after World War two. So yeah, you're a gen X. Okay and then I'm millennial, because they kick that off right after 1982. I'm like are you fucking kidding me? 82, can I get? Yeah, I was like, can I get grandfathered in, or something?

Erock: 22:29

Millennials started 82.

Omega: 22:32

I think it's 82. I could be wrong, I might be one or maybe 80, but I was like I thought it was way later.

Erock: 22:39

I thought millennials were like, like, like my, my kids age in their 20s.

Omega: 22:43

So did I.

Erock: 22:46

What is the new generation called?

Omega: 22:55

I think they started it over. I think even my fucking 12 year old son knows what the new one is. I got my as quick when I misbehaved, I got the fucking. I went skateboarded from 7 o'clock in the morning to 7 at night, fucking every summer day long, like you know, drinking people's hose water when I was fucking hot and tired.

Erock: 23:22

Oh that's the best. I'll tell you what, man when you're, when you're dying of thirst and it's fucking hot as shit out and you go and drink that, you let the hot water run out of the hose first. You get that, you start drinking out of the hose. I don't know what it's, the medley kind of you know taste irony taste.

Omega: 23:39

It's great flavor.

Erock: 23:41

It's great.

Omega: 23:42

Yeah, my kids give me a dirty ass. Look, because I got a fucking glass of water out of the tap. No, I'm doing, and I was like I'm getting some water, like we got water bottles. I'm like Doesn't have any flavor.

Erock: 23:57

We used to go visit people in Different places in where I grew up, like different towns. They were like kind of farmlands or whatever, and their water would taste so different, you know, from from city to city. Yeah, oh yeah, that's black back when I used to drink tap water with all that fluoride. Now I try to stay with a stay away from fluoride because it rots the shit out of your brain.

Omega: 24:25

It doesn't ship your teeth like they lied.

Erock: 24:28

Okay, it doesn't help your teeth at all. So what do you got? What do you got coming up? What are you? Are you Open to talking about where, like what fields you play at or what other companies working with for your?

Omega: 24:52

For your manufacturing. Yeah, when I, when I can get out to play, I'm anywhere between wildlands in Wake, elsinore or code red in Paris, california, or battle labs in Ontario. I played it and one and Was that considered shit.

Erock: 25:17

Is that orange County?

Omega: 25:19

No, it's, it's LA, but it's oh Montage, there we go. Okay, all of LA is LA, people right?

Erock: 25:28

Well, I thought LA was Orange County, no.

Omega: 25:31

Orange County is its own spot. Orange County. There's a lot of fucking cringy ass players in Orange County. That's a tack shitty. You gotta raise the name for a fucking reason.

Erock: 25:43

Yeah, shitty is that what they call it.

Omega: 25:45

No, it's tax city, but you know people, people who've played there and have seen their fucking crowd. It's tacky.

Erock: 25:56

Shit, that's funny Okay.

Omega: 25:58

Yeah, no, we, um, I, another company, I, I've been, I've got some I guess you can call mock jerseys going right now. I was working with Matt aka Bondo, the Don From violence and blood thirsty.

Erock: 26:20

I just had one and his buddy.

Omega: 26:28

That's fucking awesome.

Erock: 26:29

Oh, he's amazing. Yes, he was fun to talk with.

Omega: 26:33

Yeah, yeah, him and I we did a conference call and designed up Jersey for being another person and yeah, we're right on the money, like I'd mentioned to him what I was into and fucking bam, you had it. And the Jersey design was specifically to Bring two sides of airsoft together, because which another fucking cringy thing about fucking airsoft is, it's no different than the fucking US government, fucking Wilson, fucking idiots. You know they're both idiots towards each other. So I made a jersey that has basically both styles on one and then my style is the imagery. So it was one of those things. We're talking about it. Yeah, we're all. I'll send you a picture of the design after. They actually should be here and I think a week or two, nice. But when I was telling them about what I was trying to do, he was like dude, that's fucking awesome. And I was like it's, this is to bring it all together. It's when you look at it You're like Well, that's what speed soft is where. But that color and pattern is Multicam pattern and all the other shit on there is fucking metal and punk rock like this is nice, different. And I told him I was like I want people look at it and like turn their head again. What the fuck was that? Right, I wasn't speed soft, I wasn't milson, I got something in the middle, some weird fucking baby in the middle. So so I was working on that and just trying to plan out where to go with.

Omega: 28:19

You know, some of the other stuff. Um and lock. I, as soon as I did those things for slaughter, I started getting hit up left and right I want some of these, I want some of these. I even have real steel friends who were like dude, you want to make me some. I was like, yeah, I'll make you some nice. So, yeah, I was just, I'm trying to do something a little more custom because you know, you know even the airsoft companies, they're kind of niche and they're like this is proprietary, this is proprietary to that and the way I want to do it, you have an M lock, you have a key mod. That's all I need to know, right, I'll make it. I'll make it, it's gonna fit. This isn't proprietary to any Style. I can make what I need to make so that it fits your shit and it'll be a one-off. It's truly a one-off and it's for you. You.

Erock: 29:48

So you know, you definitely know your way around a bridge, port and milling machines and all that kind of machine, yeah, laser cutters, laser cutters, cnc's, everything you know, modeling on solid work, Solid works it's.

Omega: 30:02

you know. It's kind of there's days that I enjoy knowing all that stuff. And then there's days that I'm just like I fucking wish I didn't know any of that, because now I've got people asking me questions on how to do it. My wife's like let's do this, honey, do project, and I'm like I wish I didn't know how to do this.

Erock: 30:21

Once I learned how to do electrical, plumbing, carpentry, framing, painting, drywall, all the stuff that you know I've learned how to do over the past bunch of years, my wife's like, hey, can we do this room? I'm like, oh shit, because you can't say no, I don't know, no, I don't know.

Omega: 30:45

I'm like, yeah, but I already got all the tools and everything.

Erock: 30:48

Okay, oh yeah.

Omega: 30:51

I, like you know, electrical is the only thing that terrifies the fuck out of me.

Erock: 30:55

It used to be with me as well.

Omega: 30:57

Yeah, you can't see the danger?

Erock: 31:01

No, I had when I was, I think, 11, because I hadn't had my growth spurt yet, but I was.

Erock: 31:11

I was 11, my dad had a workshop in his garage, okay, so he had a bunch of machines out there and he used to do so. He had grinders and he didn't have a lathe or nothing that big but just, you know, desktop or countertop type of tool work, and he had the garage was 240 instead of, or 220, I guess, instead of 110. 110. And so I was plugging in something, I think, like a drop quarter, something up above on one of the rafters, like you know, in an outlet or whatever, and my thumb was touching the prom, I didn't know, and I just jammed it up in there and that thing, enough of my thumb was touching like it literally lifted me off the ground. So it lift me up and just flung around like this for like one second it felt like a lot longer, it was probably one second, you know and I kicked the trash can over this is the old style metal trash cans we used to have, you know, growing up.

Erock: 32:23

I mean heavy duty, right, kick the trash can over flung around, flopped on my back and I think the motion of flopping me around, you know, is what got me off of there and I had this giant like half my thumb was black and smoking and you know, as a kid I mean it scared the shit out of me bro. I was like I never want to be around electricity again. Oh yeah.

Omega: 32:51

Yeah, I got hit the same way. That was probably about like 13 or 14 lazy asshole. Instead of turning my light off in the room, I would just yank the plug out of the wall. Oh yeah, you know who does it. Yeah, I just got out of the shower and I went over and this time I was like I probably shouldn't pull on the cord. That's eventually going to break the cord and I'm going to be in even bigger trouble. Yeah, so I grabbed it by the sleeve of the prongs to go and pull it out of the wall. Well, I had yanked on it so many times that the sleeve had actually broken loose from the prongs and I yanked it and my fingers slipped past the sleeve and grabbed the prongs while it was still in the wall. I think it lit me up real quick. I ended myself into the wall and, I guess in the same motion, pulled the plug out. Oh my God, it lit me up. And that was only that's only your standard power coming in. That's just 120, 110.

Erock: 33:51

Oh yeah, it's crazy man.

Omega: 33:51

Yeah, no, I've been hit with 110s.

Erock: 33:56

You know, as I'm installing stuff I've worked on things with I worked on. I've installed a bunch of outlets and light switches with, you know, with everything on, with all the breakers on being hot, and I get tagged here and there. It's not, you know, just barely, you know it's, but it always wakes you up, man. It's like that little jolt that makes you go. You know it's so fast when it hits you and like okay, it's better than any.

Omega: 34:26

it's better than any fucking coffee you're gonna drink.

Erock: 34:30

Instant adrenaline, man, I'm telling you, yeah, I think it opens up your capillaries or something too, because man, it really it gets you.

Omega: 34:39

Yeah, now I had I've worked on in my my daytime career. We have a YAG laser that was built by Raytheon back in the 80s. Holy shit, and it was. It was acting up doing some weird stuff.

Omega: 34:56

And you know the service guy, he's all the way, he's back in Maryland and you know, to get him out it's a $10,000 trip. You know we got to pay this dude to come out and all this shit. And you know he's just like, well, you know we'll just, we'll get on a, we'll get on a zoom call and I'll have you go over some stuff. And I'm like, okay, you know what that kind of works. And my boss at the time he's an engineer, he's done electrical work and all that type of shit. You know they're on the zoom call. And he's like, cool, take all the panels off. You know we'll start working piece by piece. So we take the panels off, the disconnects all off, all that type of shit. And he's like, yeah, I just need, I need you to stick your arm back in there to check this one thing. And I was like, well, this thing stores 150,000 volts.

Erock: 35:44

Oh, bro, anytime you're in a factory setting and somebody says I need you to stick your arm in there, bro, I'm going the other way, Okay.

Omega: 35:53

The capacitors inside of this laser are the size of like a can of Pinto beans and there's banks full of these capacitors and you know, and at the bottom down at the bottom, it's got eight dumps. So when you kick it off, all the power is supposed to dump through those power dumps. And you know, I'm asking them. I'm like, how do I know? Even with the disco off, these things have no power in them. Discharge. Yeah, he was like. Well, as long as all the freaking dumps down at the bottom are functional, you're good, I'm like. But how do I know exactly what you don't?

Erock: 36:33

know that's what they have those long yeah.

Omega: 36:37

He was like, if you ever noticed, when I come and I service your thing, I always take my rubber grip screwdriver and I touch across the banks because the screwdriver head will blow up if there's still power in there. And I was like, so say, this fails and I have my arm in there. What's going to happen? He was like, don't worry about it, you won't even feel it, you'll die. You'll die, you'll die. It's a little blow across the room. Why? It's 150,000 volts coming through your body. No, I'm looking at my boss like, well, first off, you're the guy who knows electrical. What the fuck is my arm going in there, what? No, needless to say, I stuck my arm inside of that cavity and there's hair on the back of my neck raising up as I'm doing it. If I die it's going to be today, but at least he said I'm not going to feel it. Oh, good Lord, yeah, gnarly, fuck electricity dude. I think most people really fear?

Erock: 37:36

well, maybe not most people like you and me, we probably fear pain more than death. Like I don't really feel death, but I don't want to be in a bunch of pain.

Erock: 37:48

I don't want to be painful I don't want to be something I never thought of until I was paralyzed. I don't want to be a burden on somebody, so I don't want to be paralyzed where somebody has to take care of me forever. I'd rather just be gone. Okay, like they'll get over the agony of losing me quicker than the agony of 10 years of you know wiping my ass and carrying me to the shower. You know like fuck that.

Omega: 38:14

Until I die. Yeah, yeah, nope, I agree. Yeah, pain is, pain sucks. But yeah, I'd much rather just be over with real quick.

Erock: 38:25

Yeah, right, yeah, if you're going to die, it's going to be. Hopefully it's not going to be painful, like too painful. I don't mind pain on a daily basis, like you know, whatever kind of pain we have to go through, whatever is normal, but yeah, like extreme stuff we see in these movies where you know torturing and stuff. No, man, I just. I just rather go Okay.

Omega: 38:50

Yeah, I'd rather go, that's for sure. So yeah that's a that kind of plays into fucking. Another little gripe I have about cringey people there we go, that's what we're here for. Oh, and you know what it has to do with cringiness.

Omega: 39:07

So it has to do with tack shitty. They had a nice, they had a nice video last year. Yeah, some retards from oh you know what, they're not even from our state unknown, arizona yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know the Arizona, your fucking retards. They came in. I guess they had some beef with somebody. Oh no, magdump the fuck out of them. I just remember watching the video and apparently the dude had it coming, which I was just like yeah, okay, yeah, this is more their fucking gay, not making fun of gays. Sorry, they're stupid way of dealing with stuff, and you know, when I watch, people get magdumped.

Erock: 39:45

We're not saying gay is a Tomo.

Omega: 39:47

You're saying yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, definitely not. Yeah, I have most respect people. When I'm watching these people get magdumped in the way they like react to it, I'm like you know what? You're in a plate carrier, you've got a mask on. I would walk into one of these dudes and take their gun and beat them with it. I'm sorry you are trying to cause bodily harm to me, like. I personally feel like you should get whatever the fuck is coming to you.

Erock: 40:17

For real.

Omega: 40:19

And I don't care how old you are either I think at 16, we should be allowed. If you're causing me physical harm, I should be able to beat the fucking piss out of you 1000%, bro, of course.

Omega: 40:30

Now when we get below the 14, you know you could probably severely injured or something like that I'd stop myself, right, yeah, people, I would stop myself. If I nearly was 16, I'd stop. You know it's 16, that's when the hormones are kicking in and they think they're a lot tougher than they really are. Every now and again, kid needs to get whack-a-mole. They gotta get whack-a-mole. Yes, whack-a-mole, whack-a-mole.

Erock: 40:54

Whack-a-mole. You gotta get whack-a-mole.

Omega: 40:57

I'm telling you, bro, and you know what that's the other thing about these dudes A lot of these fucking little cringy teams they are 16, 17, 18 year olds that are using their age to protect them. Uh huh, and that's kind of one of those things I think we should get a pass. We should get a pass as airsoft players. When we're all wearing kits, we all look the same age. That's right, that's it?

Omega: 41:23

No idea bro yeah, if I, babe Ruth, swing for the fences with my M4 and hit you in the face, I mean I thought you were 40. I'm sorry. It wasn't until your mask flew off your face that I was like, oh, this kid's balls probably haven't dropped yet. And I just heard him.

Erock: 41:43

Right Holy shit.

Omega: 41:46

But again, I think your behavior should warrant your fucking punishment.

Erock: 41:51

There's gotta be consequences for it.

Omega: 41:53

Yeah, you want to act like a big boy and hurt people Physically. You should be able to get the same punishment.

Erock: 42:02

Sorry, so going back to your comment earlier a while ago about the. You know the, how people identify with certain groups. You know Dems or Republicans or whatever. You know mill simmers and speed softers. You know this kind of thing. It is which mill sim and speed softers that's. It's a totally different game style. I get it, but you know it's not a personal identity. But you know the. I judge people on their actions. Okay, your actions is what is shows your character and that's what I judge people on. I don't care about anything else, okay, I don't care who you sleep with. I don't care what your skin color, I don't care what religion, I don't care. You know any of your actions determine your character and that's what I'm judging you on. So I don't like bad behavior. Period. I want to correct bad behavior. So we have to be an example right To the younger generation, to show them this behavior is bad, this behavior is good. Okay, yeah.

Erock: 43:15

So the greatest is bad.

Omega: 43:16

Yeah, yeah, and it just permeates with them Because, yeah, well, it's because they got their stupid little quick of five people that it's just like oh bro, that was so sick, you just fired the fucking and it's all for content. That's what makes it even fucking more cringy. It's like you literally incited a person to come at you so that you could make content out of this right for your shitty little fucking group of retards in your contour cams and your pig be rig fucking plate carriers with your fucking MK 18 DSG builds. Yes, you all are the same. You aren't any like. We all know you. They're special, damn it. Yeah, when you show up to the field you stand out more than anybody. They know you are coming to cause problems and then you throw a fit when you get permaban. Fuck off, sorry, go fuck yourself. Quit acting like a fucking tool and get with the program and you might actually be able to have a fun whole day of airsoft.

Erock: 44:30

Yeah, like dude, if you don't like playing team sports, like go play Call of Duty and be a lone wolf and just quick, quick, scope everybody. Okay, like whatever.

Omega: 44:41

Yeah yeah. Go act like a fucking tool somewhere else that's not going to affect you know, maybe a hundred other players. They're trying to have a good day, right. Or act like a victim when somebody fucking throws you through a wall and you're like, oh my God, he hurt me. It's like, well, you act like a fucking shithead.

Erock: 44:59

Oh, they actually these videos. You know they act big and bad, like overshooting somebody, full auto, you know, turning their gun around trying to hit them like a bat and they're, you know, underage, like 16 or whatever.

Omega: 45:14

You can't do that to me.

Erock: 45:17

Don't I'm gonna. I'm a minor like bro. If you're going to act like that, then own that shit. Don't turn around and say I'm a minor.

Omega: 45:27

Yeah, you waved that when you fucking tried to assault another person Exactly With a projectile. I'm sorry, it's projectile, you know. I don't want it getting canceled out because you fucking shitheads can't behave yourself. We've already went through this once before, where they wanted to regulate the fuck out of it, and then you still have these fucking idiots out there acting this way, and it's like this is why we can't have nice things because you shitheads are acting this way.

Erock: 45:55

For real bro.

Omega: 45:56

I agree, sorry, and you know what? I might not be the only person who's saying this type of shit you know out there or whatever but you know somebody's going to have to say it. And guess what? Try to expect. The airsoft is the best place to do it, because a lot of people watch this fucking podcast. And here you cringes, softers, you are fucking it up for everybody.

Erock: 46:20

I love it.

Omega: 46:21

And you don't think about it that way. You think about it because you go out there and have your good old little time with your kit bag crew of friends, but guess what? There's an entire community is being affected by your shit behavior. Period.

Erock: 46:35

It really is. Yeah, when social media started and people video and all kinds of stuff and posting it those days. Well, not only that, it's what we were talking about earlier, where you know the parents aren't doing their job as a parent, which is tough love Like they think. Love is, like you know butterflies and hugs all the time, like it's not good feelings all the time. Love is tough love. It really is. You don't have to beat the shit out of your kids, but you got to show them. Your job as a parent is to teach them how to be a productive member of society. I'm not saying fall in line with the government. Okay, like, be a person you know as an adult. An adult, I mean like 16 on. Okay, not this fucking bullshit where, oh no, they still live at home when they're 28 and they're still just a kid, but you shut your ass. Okay, so you're being on your fucking adult. Okay, you can make decisions and start growing up. You know, be better. Okay, don't fucking suck. Yeah, yeah.

Omega: 47:49

I mean, you know they kind of going back to the graffiti thing. Yeah, you know what it's kind of me being hypocritical by telling people hey, follow the fucking rules. Well, asshole, you're a graffiti artist and you're a fucking punker. You're against freaking all that. No, I'm not against society, right, I'm against a machine.

Erock: 48:08

Exactly.

Omega: 48:10

You know. So rules can be bent as long as they don't affect my neighbor. I don't fucking go and fuck with my neighbor's shit. I might go fuck with that company shit down the street because essentially they ain't paying for their insurance, but you know I don't go steal from my neighbors, I don't go do. I didn't do stupid shit like that. I always fucked up stuff that I knew was insured by somebody bigger than the person who owned it.

Erock: 48:39

And and a company that was against your ideals. You know that's uh, you're not fucking shit up, just, uh, just to cause them monetary harm or whatever it is. Uh, they don't. They're being shady, they're being stupid, they're being, you know, or government stuff. You know, we all know the government. If anyone is not, most of us don't follow the, the, uh, all the politics stuff right now, because it's so stupid to follow, but uh, all right but it's like, uh, you know, if you you, you got to be awake a little bit to understand like, don't, you cannot trust all the shit.

Erock: 49:24

They say, okay, so you got to know they have some nefarious uh ideas and motives and you know, uh, we're going to fight against. That's the machine we're talking about. But when you go play a, a sport and a hobby that you love and you want other people to love, so that it continues to grow, so that you have a place to keep going to, then don't be fucking cringy, yeah.

Omega: 49:51

You need. You need the machine to be something that people like, that you like. You want people to like the ride and want to keep coming back and ride the ride.

Erock: 50:00

Right.

Omega: 50:01

You know, period, you don't want to show up one day and be like amen. Yesterday that thing came off the rails because this fucking idiot did this Like. Oh well, maybe I don't want to write that I don't know.

Erock: 50:14

I don't know. It sounds like it's an easy. Something goes off the rails. It usually means it's fun Okay.

Omega: 50:19

Yeah, I guess it depends on the situation and what you're doing. You go to a metal show and shit goes off hinges. You're like oh, that was a good fucking show. They got gnarly.

Erock: 50:31

If you don't leave a metal show a little bloodied or bruised, then you you did not go. Okay, you can't say you went.

Omega: 50:39

But if you go to six flags and take the Batman ride and you come out bruised because some fucking bolt came loose on something like I'm never going to do that again, Hell no.

Erock: 50:51

We don't want that kind of. We don't want that kind of cringe. Okay, yeah.

Omega: 50:56

Now the cringy dudes fuck you guys Influencers. Do something with your goddamn pole.

Erock: 51:03

Yeah, I was going to say what, uh, what else Like, um, these influencers that uh that just conform and keep conforming. Uh what? What would you say? You know they should do to kind of help the sport.

Omega: 51:19

I mean shit. You know, stop conforming and telling everybody that it's toys. Yes, we all fucking know that it's called airsoft. If it, if it wasn't a toy, you'd be saying check out my six hour fucking. You know, nine millimeter free, it's it's. We know that fucking KWA only makes airsoft guns. The fact that you are like constantly repeating this thing, it's like you're brainwashing people into you know, I can't say the no-no word that it's a gun. It's a fucking airsoft gun, right? Okay, if fire is a projectile, it's non-lethal. For fuck's sake. You know, like it sucks that we have to do this because you'll get zucked if you don't say it the right fucking way. Right, you know, if we keep playing into it, it's only gonna get worse, absolutely. But on the other hand and this is where I'm gonna go and fucking put my own foot in my mouth, because I had the discussion with somebody the other day where I was like you know, I kind of get China's censorship thing because there are some people that should not be able to fucking have internet access.

Erock: 52:37

There are some people that should be made to shut the fuck up.

Omega: 52:41

There are some. I mean, when it comes down to it, airsoft is not one of them. Why is paintball not a problem?

Erock: 52:47

I was just gonna say that yep.

Omega: 52:49

Paintball isn't a problem and it's not like I'm trying to. I have a. I have a theory on that. I'm not trying to get paintball on a radar here. I'm just like why is paintball not an issue?

Erock: 53:00

Well, I don't think us talking about these issues is going to put something on a radar or take it off. I think they have their agenda and they're pushing it and I think it's too big of a ship like YouTube or whatever is too big of a ship to get all of this stuff all at once. You know what I mean. So it hits certain channels here and there and then we'll grow over time. I think they're trying to get you know. Airsoft in general is I did notice something.

Omega: 53:41

Now I gotta like all have to talk to some of my buddies who've had their accounts like Shadow Band or shit, removed. I don't know what the algorithm's picking up. So I talked to Ronan from Shogun. They actually had a post removed that didn't have an airsoft gun in it, Didn't mention airsoft guns at all, but it got removed. And when he sent it to me I was looking at it. Hashtags had nothing, even airsoft related in it, but it was removed by Instagram. So I was like what was the post? It was a flyer.

Omega: 54:23

It was a flyer for an event that they were trying to do and it had nothing. It didn't say anything about airsoft. Now I mean it did have battleground on it, but I mean battleground could be anything. There's video game, battleground type shit. It doesn't get removed. But that got removed, which I was like okay. Well then it must not just be the mention of airsoft guns. What the fuck is the algorithm picking up then? So I know there's not moderators sitting there going account by account and removing shit.

Erock: 54:57

It's obviously a program there could be, so there could be, which would be a very sad fucking life for anybody, I mean you know when Edward Snowden came out and said you know about the NSA, and everyone said, oh, there's not that many people looking at that many people's accounts online Like, oh yes, there is. No, that's a good point.

Erock: 55:22

You never know, but I mean and I agree with you, that's one of the biggest issues is it's not the fact that it's that something is censored? We get that. We I've talked about this before we understand, we all understand. Okay, it's a private company Instagram, Facebook, YouTube our private companies edit whatever you want to make your terms of service. Go ahead and make them. We'll follow them. We're on your platform. Okay, it's fine, but be consistent. Your fucking inconsistency is fucking annoying.

Omega: 56:01

Yeah, you need to be consistent, seriously, I mean I just what's it? The other day I saw some fucking dude killed himself on Discord on a live stream, on a fucking live stream kill themselves. Yeah, fucking overdosed on methadone. I took a bag full of methadone and fucking OD on live stream and I'm like now that one I could understand why you shut down because you really don't know, but it's being used. Well, yeah, but it's being recirculated on Instagram. Oh, so it's like why is that not getting scrubbed right away? Because, like that's?

Erock: 56:43

like I don't know he's dead, though. I mean it could be a stunt, right, it could be like an actor.

Omega: 56:48

The video kept rolling all night and his parents came into his room the next day. No way, yeah, it rolled for that fucking long. Oh my God. Now the Instagram video. The Instagram video shrunk it up. Whoever rehosted it. They shortened it, got you Fucking. Dad comes in the room, mom comes in and I'm like why is this Okay Circulating on your shit when a toy gun is getting fucking scrubbed instantly?

Erock: 57:18

Telling that it's the. You know what posts for airsoft get ganked is the fucking. The ones that aren't even like violent. The ones that are violent and overshooting and full auto and all this kind of drama and hitting each other. That goes viral, it's, it is loud, you know, on their things. It's the ones that like are seriously harmless, like it's a picture, a really nice, well taken picture of a pistol. That's clearly labeled, as you know, like on an airsoft channel. What the fuck replica replica right right replica.

Erock: 58:01

Oh, I know dude, so it's a talk with somebody last year, that said, and they have a very big YouTube channel and they said somebody asked them what can we call it replica? And they said, no, don't even call it that. And we're like, well, what, what the hell do you call it? And he said call it by its actual nomenclature of the weapon, so m16 or whatever you know, kind of a two kind of thing. Instead of saying gun or replica in it, Just say the title of what the gun is or whatever.

Erock: 58:45

So I was like no, not doing that shit, I don't give a fuck. Okay, Like I'm not be honest, the way I am as stubborn as I am and my personality type, even if I was making I don't know some crazy amount of 10 grand a month on YouTube from our videos and all of a sudden they start banning or censoring our videos, for you know airsoft content, and I was, and they sent me a list of okay, you can't say this, this, this, I'd be like fuck you, I'm still saying it and take the money.

Erock: 59:19

I don't give a shit. Okay, I just, I'm more about ideals than money. Like you can fuck off, you're not buying me off, okay.

Omega: 59:29

Did you have to play some dumb ass shit like that? I'd be like go fuck yourself. The guys serve the goddamn country. You can say whatever the fuck you want. Go fuck yourself.

Erock: 59:39

Like I'm not even telling. I'm trying to bring people together on this shit. Okay, it's, it's, it's weird, it is weird.

Omega: 59:44

Except the gringies, and hopefully, hopefully, it'll blow over one day, do you?

Erock: 59:54

think, do you think some of those gringies that you're talking about, do you think there's hope for them? Do you think they'll? They'll grow into a better airsoft, or where they could possibly lead other people into a better way? Like you know, this is the way kind of thing.

Omega: 1:00:18

No, I don't think so, because I've I've gone through some of their individual pages and looked at comments or whatever, and they've got a fucking plethora of degenerates fucking fueling their behavior. They're just a fuck ton. I mean, I went down the red. It's like you got conspiracy theorists who will go down a rabbit hole. I was like let's see how cringe these fucking assholes can get. And just started clicking on profiles and I'm like, wow, the roaches are fucking everywhere. Like the infestation is huge and when a team gets banned, they just change the name so that they can get back into a field. Really, and it's like, yeah, they're just they're. It's fucking ridiculous.

Omega: 1:01:04

And you got people other like oh yeah, taking out the trash. And it's like you are the trash. What fucking trash aren't you taking out? Oh, my God, you are the trash, you know. And they all look the same. I can't get over that. They all look the same. It's like the same way, speed softers think no, simmers all look the same. And no simmers think speed softers all look the same. It's like, no, the cringe players have the exact same uniform. Hand me down bullshit. They got in a thrift store for fucking BDUs A pig B rig, a contour cam. A diamond got an MK18 build of some sort. They all look the same and they all with their slack shoulder, fucking retard, look, fuck. Oh, my God, it drives me nuts. I'm like, dude, your posture is as piss poor as your airsoft Dude.

Erock: 1:01:56

I'm glad you said that you know posture is one of the things that our parents taught us, right.

Omega: 1:02:02

Shoulders back, shoulders back.

Erock: 1:02:04

That was even a military quote, unquote military thing. That was like your parents taught you that, because it's good posture, like your body is meant to stand that way. That's the way you breathe better. You know, the more oxygen you have in your body, the less sickness and disease you have in your body. And then I see so many people when I drive around just in daily life and walking in on the gas stations, stores, you know wherever you're out and about and you see the general public. So many people have poor posture and when somebody actually walks, stand up and straight. I saw this really beautiful one, probably in her twenties, maybe 25 or so, come out of this gracious story the other day and she was dressed, you know, decent, like, not like I'm pretty casual, but she, her posture was great, like she held her shoulders back. You can tell she's been to the gym, very good shape and I was like you know, and she was very pretty hair and face and all that. But even if she wasn't just for posture alone, caught my confidence, Confident, strong.

Omega: 1:03:20

yes.

Erock: 1:03:20

Yes.

Omega: 1:03:20

Confident, strong. You get all that in posture, yes. And then you know you look at these clowns and you're like you are weak. You look like a fucking idiot. You're slumpy, you stand like an idiot. You dress like an idiot. You can't even match your fucking outfit. Like an idiot, like I'm sorry, but you're not speed, you're not nilsen, You're that shit right in the middle. Yes, you're all shit, all of you.

Erock: 1:03:49

And they want to. They want to make their, they want to stake their claim on the airsoft field by doing cringe shit. And so we do.

Omega: 1:03:59

And that's yeah and that's. And I heard that from another person who was just like no, they basically go and they stake claim at a field, almost like a gang, and they just come there and they just treat everybody like shit. You know one of them shit. He was in a fucking discord that I'm a part of and he was. I just want to go out and fucking mad dump kids and I'm like you're a fucking problem, dude. Let me tell you something you mad dump my kid. I'll fucking break you off. Period, I will break you off. I don't care how old you are. If your mom and dad are at the field, they're going to have a problem too, because I might even just fucking up.

Erock: 1:04:40

my is literally just shit talking, like, like they don't really want to, but they do shit talking you know, when we're all in groups like when we were growing up, we were teenagers and even adults, right guys hanging out and we all talk. Somebody you know like oh yeah, I'm going to do that.

Omega: 1:04:59

Yeah, talking to be cool, like, oh, I just want to sound cool, I'm edgy, I'm fucking edgy. Yeah, that's the yeah, yeah, yeah.

Erock: 1:05:08

You know edgy is like the when I was growing up. You know the punk because me and my buddies were into punk as well and against the machine and all that kind of bullshit and it was sex pistols, violent fans. You know crash Can be or the crash. Yeah, it was, yeah, all the.

Omega: 1:05:32

And then you had you kind of had you know music and their, you know their words and what they were about to kind of do it. These fucking clowns and airsoft. It's like there's nothing in the background, like building you guys up, you're literally creating your own little shit and just creating that shit within your own little groups. You know there was nobody in airsoft who came out like let's fucking mad dump people and we didn't have a mad dump movement and we're going to write songs about it. It's like no, it's just a bunch of fucking shit bags who keep behavior going because other shit bags think it's cool and they're just going to keep doing it. And it's like man, one day one of you guys is going to do it to the wrong person that does not give a shit about playing airsoft tomorrow. Yep, like then they break you off and you get permanently hurt and guess what? The rest of the community is going to pay for it.

Erock: 1:06:33

Oh, 100%, it already does, they don't. That's the things.

Omega: 1:06:38

They don't even care about the community. They care about their little fucking retard circle and having a laugh and getting to watch it again on YouTube, Like are you really that day where I act like fucking idiots and was fucking?

Erock: 1:06:49

dead. I mean they're trying to get attention, hoarse, you know.

Omega: 1:06:53

Yeah, they're craving attention because they must not be getting it at home from mommy and daddy.

Erock: 1:06:57

Yeah, that's what it is. It really is, it really is.

Omega: 1:07:00

Period. Yep that mom and dad you fucking failed. For real. Sorry, don't be sorry, you fucking failed.

Erock: 1:07:09

Like parents, need to step the fuck up for real, yeah.

Omega: 1:07:13

Yeah, and you know what I get it. We can't watch every waking moment of what our kids do, but we can instill some fucking values in them so they don't go out in public acting like fucking idiots.

Erock: 1:07:25

My dude. Growing up in my era, we were never around our parents.

Erock: 1:07:31

Like we were to school to school and home from school. We didn't ride a bus with fucking you know and we didn't have police in the school, okay. So we, you know, we were away from our parents all the time. We never sat in the house. We didn't have anything to do in the house. If you're in the house, you're doing chores, okay. We never wanted to be in the house before the street lights come on, so we were gone all the time no-transcript.

Erock: 1:08:05

So these parents today, they let their kids sit in their room and they don't check on them. They act like their, their parent, like their kids. The parents act like their kids have their own room and have privacy in that room and when they close the door, the parents not allowed without permission. I'm like bitch, you're under my roof, that door belongs to me your room belongs to me, my, my, our oldest daughter.

Erock: 1:08:33

She's the same personality type as mine. It's a real strong willed and that kind of thing. And then she was I don't know 1516, maybe younger. She would slam the door when she get pissed, when we'd have a conversation and I'm like, no, you're not doing that, no, you're not going out with your friend dressed like that, or no, you're not doing this, or whatever. I don't know those parents. Well, no one's going to be there, okay. Does that girl have a brother? Does her brother have friends that are coming over while you're spending the night? No, hell, no, I don't think so. You're 15. And so she'd go in a room and slam the door. I'm like you slam that door one more time, I'm gonna take it off its hinges and you won't have a door. And guess what? The door went gone, okay. And when the back closet for like a week, okay, no, fucking privacy. That's my room, alright. That's what parents need to start doing, yeah no, they do.

Omega: 1:09:29

I have a 12 year old very impressionable. Essentially a good kid is pretty good kid um he likes pushing my. He likes pushing my buttons. I mean he's almost my build. He's getting up there. He's getting up there in height too, to where now he's kind of feeling himself and I'm like I will I was like I will permanently injure myself to make sure you never have the upper hand. Trust me, kid, like I will fucking kill myself to make sure you do not. Not on top.

Erock: 1:10:01

I mean, your job is to teach him right. So he's gonna flex, you gotta let him flex, and but you can't let him win.

Omega: 1:10:08

Like you gotta like let him grow into that role right and teach him along the way yeah, and I mean he, you know he watches a lot of airsoft shit because he knows I go and do it and stuff like that and you know he'll come and tell me all the time oh dad, I watched his video at this place and these guys were acting a certain way and I'm like you need to stop talking like it was the most amazing thing you've ever seen. I was like cuz, those fucking guys are the type of guys that I would love a few minutes along with, but no rules. Because you know I understand, as an adult and somebody who has a family and mortgage and all that stuff, that my days of going and while and out on somebody in fucking it they're very, very it's gotta be for life saving reasons.

Omega: 1:10:59

Now oh for sure you know, catch, go out and do it anymore not fucking 18. I was like. But those are the guys that they literally do trigger me and people can sit them, they only get triggered. But I'm like, no, it triggers a part of me. That's like man, I would have just been back and when I was younger I just fucking punched him in the mouth. Yeah, and that would have been it. Now I gotta sit there and just kind of take it like a chump of anything. Now, yeah, I'm a chump, I gotta sit here and take it, cuz I can't fucking punch you in the mouth when you act like a fucking idiot in public anymore.

Erock: 1:11:30

Thank you, I mean you can walk with me.

Omega: 1:11:32

There's thank you rule makers. Now I gotta be the bigger man and walk away, because I can't just go and mouth you one real quick yeah, and be like yeah, you said it to the wrong guy. I don't want to beat you senseless, I just want to show you just for a quick second. You talk it was to the wrong guys. I didn't really.

Erock: 1:11:53

I didn't beat my kids, it was. It was a spot like if you start at a young age you don't actually have to spank them to where they hurt. It's a it. I never hit my kids were physically hurt them if they were young enough to where it was hurt their ego enough to where they wanted to listen. The next and then some of the other reasons were like.

Erock: 1:12:18

You and I had right. We learned on our own from real life circumstances with electricity or heat, you know, or or getting caught. You let your kid touch a hot surface because you know they're not gonna hurt that bad with their finger or whatever get burned, but it's gonna last a lifetime. A five-year-old that touches a hot stove will never touch a hot stove again the rest of their life. Think about that. They'll live to their eight let's say they're eighty five. For eighty years that lesson, that one single one second lesson, was learned for eighty years. Tell your teenager to clean his room and see without physical consequences, and see how many times you have to tell them they don't learn that lesson ever.

Omega: 1:13:05

Every motherfucking day of my adult. Goddamn life with.

Erock: 1:13:10

TV is the ultimate teacher, bro.

Omega: 1:13:14

It really is, you know it's more of a shock that the fact that, oh whoa, you just fucking hit me like. I don't want that again right, I don't want that again, absolutely if you do away too late, it doesn't it doesn't have the same shock value, correct? Cuz then, as they're older and they learn how to deal with pain, they're just like oh, he's gonna come over and gonna give me a good one.

Erock: 1:13:38

It's gonna hurt for like 30 seconds, yeah it's relative, so it has to be relative to their age, so it has to adjust as they get older. So if you start when they're young, then it's very little right. It's just like more of an ego pain, like, oh, they got embarrassed, okay, and then they yeah when you're 16.

Omega: 1:13:58

You're 16 year old. Boys deserve right hooks. Yes, 70% of your power.

Erock: 1:14:03

Well, like I said, I was 16, my dad threw me up against the fridge and put his finger in my chest. I'm not saying like pointed to me, I'm talking like he was hurting me okay.

Erock: 1:14:14

I thought he was. You know he made a fist like he was about to punch me. This is a big dude and I understand. You know, at that age I understood pain already. I played football since I was in fourth grade and you know I understood how things hurt when you get hit and I had been in fights. I was beat up. I was bullied like old school bullied like legit, beat up with fists and kicks when I was 10 years old, the whole year. You know, whatever I understood. You know physical pain. So it's a.

Omega: 1:14:51

You know it doesn't take a lot if you start, you know and that's, and that's kind of what I'd say about some of these kids. I was like you didn't, you didn't poke that one wrong guy. Because I did. Back in high school, you know, I poked one wrong guy and I learned from his 20 year old brother, his 18 year old brother, his 17 year old brother and him all at once, but it didn't even know they were coming for me. Just walking home from school by myself one day and got the wrath of all fucking four of them for fucking with the wrong goddamn kid. Right, you cringe. Motherfuckers are gonna poke the wrong guy one day. It may not be me, it may not be somebody else. Normally you might go to some strange field you've never been at before. Then there's gonna be that one dude who's fuck around and find out fucking chart. It ain't what you expected to be with all the other guys you play. His might just be this low level, flatline like no.

Erock: 1:15:50

You shot him one BB too many that's it, yeah his limit is very low, bro, yeah yeah, but again he's gonna get your ass but again you fucks.

Omega: 1:16:01

One of you is gonna get hurt and then all of us are gonna suffer for it. They're gonna be like look what happens in airsoft kids are being beaten. It's like well that motherfucker kind of deserved it. If you went and talked about people and talked to people in the community, they'd like they know him for being a shitbag. You know you're just now getting wind of it because a parent is upset about it.

Erock: 1:16:24

Let alone that parent didn't know their kid is a scumbag when they're not at home with you but I don't know those, those kind of people, those kind of kids, the cringy ones that do airsoft, like that, their, their parents, to be like what?

Omega: 1:16:42

never, my kid is such a sweetheart at home like yeah, no shit, cuz he's waiting for you to go drop him off.

Erock: 1:16:52

To act like a fucking degenerate at a field serious bro and he's never gonna get in trouble for it, because he knows how to play you like a little machine pull-up bars and push-ups at airsoft fields and for these cringy dudes to get their energy out, cuz that's what it is, a build-up of energy. Right, that needs to get done because I guarantee you 100%, if they would run an obstacle course that was hard as fuck before they were allowed to go on the field and play indoor or whatever, they would not have that fucking you know piss and vinegar in their veins to go do the cringy shit they do. Yeah, go make them pull a fucking truck tire for you know 50 yards yeah, well, I'm seeing those.

Omega: 1:17:48

So we had friends that played at a local field, orange County field, which, in the hub of fucking all cringiness, it's not a, it's not a typical airsoft field, it's an actual police training facility. Nice, they had one thing going for them. That was really cool. I mean the park is pretty cool itself. I mean it's a killhouse. But the fact that it's run by police changed the dynamic of how the people behave there. So, like after hearing about that, I was like you know what that might be.

Omega: 1:18:26

What these fields need is a line and that waiver that says you act a certain way, we are not liable for any damages to your person, for your behavior, because that might, that might make people think twice about at least the smart ones will be like well, I literally signed a waiver that said people who own, operate and basically patrol this place could bounce me off walls while they're throwing me out.

Omega: 1:18:57

You know it's like a bouncer at a fucking club. Like that bouncer will whack you off every fucking wall as you're going out if you wanted to. You know, who knows that could change the dynamic of fields. Like hey, check it out, that guy who works here. You see him, that's fucking Bubba. He's 325 pounds, a fucking man and if he gets his hands on you understand that every 55 gallon drum that he walks by you might get bounced off of that thing before you get thrown out, right? You know, it's almost like there's no, there's no fear for repercussions. They're just like oh, I'll get banned from the field, that's it we have to have to have consequences, bro.

Erock: 1:19:36

There needs to be consequences for that actions, and I'm not talking about time out. Time out does not work and unfortunately, you know, I know, I know indoor fields, especially they're, they're kind of stuck with what they can't do much except ban them which does not cause physical pain, which is what they need, so they can learn a lesson. You know the cringy ones, so I talked about this somebody about six months ago when I said I have a solution.

Erock: 1:20:17

Okay, I'm not, I don't claim to know it all, but I raised five children. They're all adults now and they're all very good adults, okay, and, and you have to have a good balance of pain with teaching, right, and I'm not talking about extreme pain, but one of the things the ideas I had for an indoor field is you can only wear t-shirts to play. That's it, that's it that's the only rule.

Erock: 1:21:02

If you're playing on this field, you can only wear a t-shirt. I know you want to look cool, it's fine. Wear whatever kind of t-shirt you want that looks cool. Wear a cammy t-shirt you know all kind of different camo, whatever, whatever, but you can only wear a t-shirt. You wear gloves, but you cannot wear long sleeves and you can't wear a hoodie and you can't wear something thick. You know chest rig and all that. You don't need a chest rig for indoor play. Okay, you're 30 rounds in your pistol. If that doesn't do you well, for one round, then use fucking suck. Okay, so a t-shirt and that's it. And that will eliminate a lot of this behavior, because they will get shot with a full force of whatever the. You know one point, something one jewel or one jewel or whatever at close range on their bare skin or on that t-shirt. This is how we learned, you and me, and paintball. We showed up in jeans and a t-shirt most of the time and we got fucking pelted and we said, oh shit, this fucking hurts.

Omega: 1:22:12

So I better move on different yeah, there weren't plate carriers and paintball. You were a belt that had paws. That's it.

Omega: 1:22:20

That was it for real you know, yeah, these fucking, these clowns are wearing full military parkers. It's like you know how thick those fucking things are. You didn't feel a goddamn shot. That's why you are putting your hand up. Exactly, you didn't feel anything. Yep, you know, you have a skill issue period. You know, if you have to full auto period, you have a skill issue well, let me ask you this full auto for indoor play, yes or no?

Erock: 1:22:55

because in the UK they have, I think most of their fields allow full auto and it doesn't mean, you know, overshooting is not allowed, but full auto is allowed.

Omega: 1:23:09

So but again it's like overshooting is not allowed and I can squeeze a trigger and my DSG is built to do 60 rounds. A second, a half second, pull.

Erock: 1:23:19

I've overshot you fucking 55 times well, I guess we have to define overshooting. So overshooting would be until the hand goes up.

Omega: 1:23:28

Until the hand goes up. Right is what we hear around here in California. I'm shooting until your hand goes up, that's right. Well, the average human reaction is like a second or something sure and if you squeeze a trigger on the DSG build with a 60 rps, fucking squeeze my hand going up in one second. I'm still getting fucking hit 50 times, I mean. I think full auto would be fine if the gun was tuned to something that actually works in reality. How fast will the full auto M4 fire a real steel?

Erock: 1:24:16

That's a great question. Let me think.

Omega: 1:24:17

I don't use.

Erock: 1:24:18

I didn't use M4. I used a m16 a2 and we didn't have full auto. We had three round burst. But what was the cycle?

Omega: 1:24:28

even that I can't even remember the three rounds 700 600. Rounds a minute.

Erock: 1:24:35

Yeah, maybe it's less than that because I know an MP5. Well, I think I know an MP5 is 900 rounds a minute and that's pretty fucking fast, Small gun like that. But Anyway, yeah, I don't know 900 rounds a minute.

Omega: 1:24:56

That's 15 rounds a second.

Erock: 1:24:57

Okay.

Omega: 1:24:59

So if the rule was your gun has to be tuned to 15 rounds a second, okay, that's fine, because you know You're not getting laser beam. I watched a video earlier today of a guy running full auto night out here in California and it was a perfect green beam coming out of this gun. I'm like there is no weapon on the planet besides maybe the fucking mini gun that they put on fucking. You know, attack helicopters, right, I mean that fucking thing, that thing sends me and six thousand.

Omega: 1:25:37

Yeah, that thing sends beams, but there is no Personnel carried weapon that fires that fast. So if you keep it in the realm of reality, I'm actually kind of fine with them. I guess you tune it to 15 to 20 rounds a second. I think that big of a deal and you tell everybody you're only allowed to run to those.

Erock: 1:25:57

Yeah.

Omega: 1:25:59

That's fine, you got a lightweight baby. Yeah, there's a lot of them coming at you A three, two or a three eight coming at you in full auto. You're fucking people up with that?

Erock: 1:26:11

Yeah, that's true.

Omega: 1:26:18

Yeah, there's gotta be something. You know Full auto sounds fun as fuck. But when I was watching the full auto night videos I'm like dude, that dude with that DSG. Every time he pulled around a corner it was a fucking laser Just firing 60 rounds. That's not even fucking fun. You can't move out of cover. You can't move out of cover. That guy's so fucking tuned and it's like he wants to shoot the fucking lasers bro.

Omega: 1:26:46

Hey, that's totally cool, Go fucking do a Star Wars LARP event. You know like Um, but again you reduced the fun. It's like, okay, maybe somebody else doesn't have a thousand dollars to put into a DSG build like that, but now they have to play against you On like a walk-on day for full auto and they're like, oh, I couldn't even leave cover. This guy fucking popped out. He's putting 150 rounds down, fucking range in two seconds. You know it's kind of dumb at that point. You know maybe they should have nights where it's like, hey, hey, only tonight, all you motherfuckers with your 60 rps builds.

Erock: 1:27:21

Yeah, there's a field. Isn't there a field called full auto only?

Omega: 1:27:29

That's a, that's a brand. Full, I think there's. No, no, full auto, airsoft is the same. Yeah yeah, full auto only are much cool dudes nice.

Erock: 1:27:46

Like a night where you know these fields should have, a night where these guys could come out and and Maybe it's just not the whole night but two matches or whatever they can just go ham on each other.

Omega: 1:28:02

Yeah, it's just it's misleading to the public, like again, I'm not against it like 100%, but you need to kind of set some ground rules Because anybody like if somebody I don't know say they've owned in playing for like six months and they've got a decent build, like puppy, I want to go do a night of full auto. And then they show up and they're like who the fuck is Mike Tyson with the goddamn 60 rps? Just fucking smack in everybody in the place.

Erock: 1:28:30

Oh wait, I want to be full auto, but hold on.

Omega: 1:28:39

Yeah, I thought my 15 rounds. A second was fast. People with thousand dollar builds it fucking.

Erock: 1:28:46

It looks like just this perfect green bean coming out, so yeah, the difference between, because I feel like 20 rounds a second is really fast, bro. When I got shot the one time, you know I was like Then I've talked about numerous times on this podcast but um, and I have a picture of my hand on our Instagram, scroll way down I was bleeding. Okay, I told my kids to shoot me and the we're outside doing a doing a review on one of the guns. We got it shot 380 FPS, point twos. It had a 90 round mid cat mag that we filled for the review or whatever, and had full auto. It was shooting 18 or 20 20 rounds a second.

Erock: 1:29:43

They were about 30 feet away from the target that we had one of these official, you know Real steel type of targets whenever plaster on this cardboard box and I'm this is about three months into our channel, when we started a channel and I'm steadily for three months talking shit about airsoft because I was paintballer I'm like this these little babies do not hurt bro, what the fuck. And so, anyway, I held my hand out. It's like shoot it. And they were like no, no, no, no.

Omega: 1:30:14

I was like do it do it.

Erock: 1:30:15

I got a beer in the other hand, by the way, and um yeah, oh yeah, so I up until that point.

Erock: 1:30:23

I had not been shot by An airsoft gun that was any kind of legitimate at all. It was just when they were. You know, my kids were 10 and 12. They had the little springers and I was like, okay, so they shot the top of my hand. I had my clenched fist From my wrist all the way up to my knuckles. You know how many tendons are in there, bro. 30 feet away, at 380 FPS, the whole. I know I couldn't hold my hand there. The whole mag. Oh, my god, talk about learning a lesson from physical pain. I will never make fun of airsoft again, but it was. It was wrecked for like a week and a half, you know For real. So I.

Erock: 1:31:15

You know 60 rps, you know rounds per second and I got shot with 20 rounds. A second Bro. That's insane.

Omega: 1:31:27

Yeah, I mean shit. One of my builds that I have I can tune the trigger to 43 before my tank won't allow anymore. I mean, if I upgrade my tank I can take it to 60, you know. But I'm like my limit at 43 when I turn the fun switch on and I pull the trigger, I'm like that wouldn't be fun to get shot with that thing. So I went and I tuned my fucking trigger back down to where it's semi-semi. There is no full auto on it. I was like this is unnecessary. The trigger is tuned now to where I barely have to touch it and I can fire fucking rounds. You know Semi-auto. You're showing skill if you can sit there and fucking place a well-placed shot. That's what you're a. That's what you're aiming for, even with a real steel gun. Yeah, you are trying to put a well-placed shot to hit a target. Yep, because if you're having to go full auto, you suck at shooting.

Erock: 1:32:28

I agree. I agree, like in in in the real military full auto is Only used for covering fire, it's not used for a green fire. Yeah, it's suppression, so it's. It's made to scatter, it's not made to pinpoint and and it's made to keep the enemy's head down so you can move somewhere, or to keep them from moving somewhere or hold them back. That that's what full auto is used for. It's not or anti vehicle. If you have a bigger, you know, gone to shoot full auto, but it's.

Omega: 1:33:05

Yeah, and that's where, and that's where the speed softers actually help prove. The same point is when you watch an NSL match, right, those guys aren't firing full auto, no, and they fucking, they can fucking. Yes, they are big five guys. Yeah, there are five skilled dudes with just fucking Flashy trigger fingers that can keep people suppressed. They're not running full auto.

Erock: 1:33:32

Have you seen?

Omega: 1:33:41

Oh, the murdering dudes from out here in fucking California on my dude their body movement. They're snappy fucking motions. I'm like that is all precision tuned Airsoft behavior. They're firing semi automatic. So anybody who says they need full auto, that's not an LMG gun or go fuck yourself, because these dudes are doing it with pistols and they are suppressing other competitive players percent. You know get good, yeah good with semi auto get good bitches, don't suck.

Omega: 1:34:15

Yeah, good, don't suck. You know, that's. Yeah, that's you. Mills embers can learn a lot from the speed softers when it comes to CQB play, and Speed softers can learn a shit ton from mills embers when it comes to long ball. Stop acting like you're fucking. Two different groups are all air softers, fuck off.

Erock: 1:34:39

Yeah, but you know, what's funny or fun to watch. It are the videos where the mill simmers are out on the field. You know woodland type of, you know skirmish, whatever, and After I mean a speed software, comes blazing by and like you know Pink shorts and a blue t-shirt, just blazing by him. You know I wrote in a building. I notice that. Good for you know why. It's probably not good for the team, I don't know. It might, might work out good, who knows? But it is funny.

Omega: 1:35:14

To me it sounds like a fucking a good idea, because I mean, well, well, one, it's a great distraction and two, it's kind of like from a strategic standpoint, like you're doing mill sim and you're slowly making your way up and kind of taking over an area or whatever, and People don't really want to make a risky move to move in some of what. Guess what? The fast motherfucker who's down to slide, fucking you know 20 feet across the ground. You might want that guy to go in there and cause some turmoil, because he's gonna go in there and kill a few people and Then everybody else can be like what the fuck just happened? And then everybody moves in. Yeah, oh, absolutely no, it's great diversion, they're fast.

Erock: 1:35:58

Your brain is looking for that camo, geared up type of silhouette attic target.

Omega: 1:36:04

Yeah, static target. Who's trying to, you know? Pick the shop high corners and shit.

Erock: 1:36:09

And this here comes running in and all kind of different, you know, whacked out Colors that don't match what your brain is looking for. You're like what, what is wait? And it makes you hesitate, and now you're dead.

Omega: 1:36:24

Yeah, there was a. There was a dude. I saw it on show guns fucking Instagram and they got a guy on their team and he goes by like Molly the maniac Whenever they post videos of him. You're just like dude. That fucking guy is insane.

Omega: 1:36:40

Like he took off from the whole team and cleared two whole maps and got into a position where the other team hadn't even got up into position to start fighting with the other team and he's already killing them all off from behind. And it's like because nobody expected someone to be that far up the field In the time they made it and it was like, is this guy like an Olympic runner or something? Because what the hell? Everybody he killed had their back to him or it was a complete side shot Because they didn't know he was there. Yeah, it's like dude, that is a prime dude to have on a milson team, somebody who can get up to a position and cause turmoil Somewhere else and then it kind of diverts everybody's attention To an area for everybody else to kind of move in. It's like see you guys, both are great if you, you know, bring that cohesion, you know, between the two styles of play.

Omega: 1:37:41

Absolutely you know? Stop fucking like there's a left and right wing. Did I did that to fucking government pun.

Erock: 1:37:59

True. What else you want to shout out, man? What else you want to talk about?

Omega: 1:38:05

Oh, nothing really. I mean, dude, I really appreciate you having me on here, like I've been watching a lot of your stuff. You know you've had a lot of people on your fucking, your podcast.

Erock: 1:38:16

Yeah, so yours will be 308.

Omega: 1:38:23

Actually, yeah, that's insane. You know, that's really cool, it is.

Erock: 1:38:28

I did not expect to be talking to this many people Over the last couple years, three years or whatever, but yeah.

Omega: 1:38:35

I mean, again, you got, you have something that people are like, damn, this is really cool, I want to be on there. I like having these discussions. You know people like you know people like this kind of stuff. It's just like watching the YouTube video. It's like, no, sit down and listen and see what that guy's perspective is. You know, yeah, my, my reason for getting on here.

Omega: 1:38:56

I mean I saw show guns thing, I saw ritual. I mean I've watched actually a whole lot of them. So I mean just calling names out doesn't make any sense when I've watched, like I'll be a hundred of them. But no, I felt like you know what everybody's always got this. You know pretty cool vibe about what they're doing about it, but nobody's really pushing the fucking issue that a lot of us who really love this community and really like playing and meeting new people, we all deal with the same fucking pieces of shit out there on the field, but nobody's really talking about it in a very harsh Manor. Yeah, because I know nobody wants their image to look nasty, but that's what six millimeter cults here for.

Omega: 1:39:46

It is kind of a tongue-in-cheek joke. You know, I wanted to be a cult of 6mm enthusiasts, but we're also gonna poke fun at the ones who act very culty and fucking weird. It's like it's fucking airsoft guys. Calm the fuck on it. Actually, in a kind of funny part about the whole cult thing, I posted a picture of some stickers that I was making in a particular discord and I had somebody throw a fit, a complete fucking fit, about one of them. I actually sent it to you as the David Koresh one, and the quote on there is like well, if the Bible is true, then I am God or I am Christ, and this person threw a fit. I am sick and tired of people fucking mocking my religion. And da, da, da, da da. He's pointing finger at me and I was all well, alright, this guy is clearly too young to even know who David Koresh is.

Erock: 1:40:44

I was gonna say most people on here, most people on airsoft probably.

Omega: 1:40:49

Yeah, and I was like at least half yeah, he's going hard at me, like I'm the one who wrote the quote. Well, I was like but you know what it did exactly what it was supposed to do. David Koresh was a fucking nut job. He said crazy shit and he is one of the only fucking crazy bastards who did what they did on US soil, right, nobody else has done that. I mean, you can say what's his name Timothy McVeigh. I was like no, timothy McVeigh blew up a building and murdered a bunch of innocent people, right, david Koresh convinced a whole lot of people that you know the government was coming to kill them and granted, unfortunately, the government did come in there and fucking kill them.

Erock: 1:41:38

I was gonna say what do you think of that? Because that was anyone that doesn't know. That's Waco.

Omega: 1:41:43

Yeah, Waco Texas.

Erock: 1:41:45

Yeah, Waco Texas.

Omega: 1:41:49

I've watched a lot of documentaries about it and some of them kind of you can see where they teeter on both sides of who fucked this one all up. The last one that I watched, even that one was muddy, but they actually had people who got out of the compound on there with their testimonies and I'm like, wow, this didn't make it any easier because you people are fucking insane. Even after watching what happened in being there, you still feel that this guy was God.

Erock: 1:42:24

Right.

Omega: 1:42:25

Well, that was my thing, was you know? I don't want the government intrusion.

Erock: 1:42:30

You know we were talking about earlier and I get that. They shouldn't have been there in the first place. If those people were there on their own will they weren't in prison.

Erock: 1:42:46

They were convinced. Sure, they were convinced, they were sold on this idea, but they were there willingly, 100% willingly, and even when they had a chance to leave, they did not want to leave. And the leader, david Koresh, he wasn't threatening them under hey, you have to stay here. Under gunpoint, I will shoot you or your kids if you leave. It was you can be here or not. And I don't understand why the government needs to get involved with that kind of shit.

Omega: 1:43:28

So the last one that I watched, with like and like all that, yeah, I was like, no, he wasn't keeping anybody under their will, right? None of that shit. Now, what? The one of the people that were in this documentary? They're like. The only reason we even went out there was because a mailman reported that he delivered a package and a fucking grenade fell out of the package and we were like, well, you can have guns and all that type of shit, that's not a big deal. But they had a box of grenades delivered to the house. So they started investigating it more and I guess there was a whole lot of illegal firearm sales between David Koresh and other places, which they're like if you sell them, that's fine, but if you're selling them illegally transactionally now ATF has a problem with it.

Erock: 1:44:21

Yeah.

Omega: 1:44:22

But again, which I don't agree with the government, I think the second amendment covers all that.

Erock: 1:44:28

But yeah, I know what you're saying.

Omega: 1:44:30

But then again, the way the government went about it was David Koresh didn't have to convince them to stay, because the people were already afraid to even leave, because they were scared they were going to get killed when they left by the government. Right, that's not Well, it's such a weird situation.

Erock: 1:44:48

That whole thing was okay. Everyone's fine in that compound. Everyone's fine. Okay, like they're there. They want to be there If they don't like their situation. I mean welcome to the club, bro. Like that's life. I mean, who grew up in a house that they didn't want to be in? All right, that's fucking life. But my parents weren't threatening my life, okay he wasn't threatening their lives.

Erock: 1:45:18

I don't have compassion for him as far as that goes. You know, like they, they chose to be there. They believe what he was talking about, people. You know the good part of this country is having the freedom to follow your beliefs without government interference, and there was no problem until the fucking government showed up at their fucking fence. So that's my issue is they escalated the whole goddamn thing to where it ended up because they showed up. They have no business being at somebody's property when no one is out there, like there wasn't, like a hostage that escaped and said, oh my God there's 20 people being held in this compound under their you know, without their will.

Erock: 1:46:00

No that's not what happened. The government fucked up and they overstepped, which is what they always do, and we don't like it. As American citizens who follow the freedom that our Constitution is based on, because of where we came from, with the king and queens that oppressed everybody, we don't want government interference, you know so you got the Koresh thing and then one of the other.

Omega: 1:46:31

Yeah, that I mean it just proved my point to the way the guy fucking freaked the fuck out. I was like, see, like the stupid is a wacko who said something and now you are reacting to it. Yeah, good, I got the reaction. Nobody really reacted to the apple white one. I'm guessing that one might just be too far off from what is like those Identity. I didn't even know who that was. Yeah, yeah, that was. That was Marshall Applewhite. He convinced all the heavens gate people that there was a UFO behind the fucking Ailey's comet that was going to save them all. And then the last one.

Erock: 1:47:03

I didn't know my name. You sent it to me once. We, you know, we chatted a little bit. I looked it up and I was like I did read you know some of that story. You know, dough, I guess, is you know what they call it in the spaceship thing. I do remember that, but I didn't know that. I didn't recognize the name as much as I recognized Corration Jim Jones.

Omega: 1:47:22

Yeah, jim Jones, I was like that you don't like it, fuck. I mean I wish the background would work without fucking everything up, because I mean that's 400 dead fucking Americans. Yeah, that went down there and fucking believe this fucking craft job, you know, and it's just one of those things.

Erock: 1:47:41

I mean again, he didn't kill him. He chose to take a machine gun out and kill him. He didn't have. His cronies chopped their heads off with machetes. They willingly went into this. So what do we blame here, you know, do we blame dumb people Like I? Don't know.

Omega: 1:48:04

We blame dumb people. I think we blame dumb people. We blame him, obviously, I'm not supporting Jim Jones or Corration.

Erock: 1:48:11

I'm not. I'm not saying that. I'm saying the people that they had as followers were were literally dumb enough to believe, long enough to the very end where they said, yeah, okay, I believe enough to where I'm going to kill myself for this cause. And this ain't the first time. It's the last time we've seen this, a few years ago, when and I think we're going to see it more to be honest, in our today life, present day, with the climate change bullshit that the government is pushing, they are convincing people that we're going to destroy the earth because of climate change and because of our CO2 emissions. And there there was a video a few years ago like three years ago, four years ago about a woman and a couple of her followers or friends that were going to commit suicide and trying to convince other people to commit suicide to save the planet because of CO2 emissions, not even realizing that one volcanic eruption causes 10,000 times more.

Erock: 1:49:22

CO2 emission than all of humanity has caused since its existence. That's one volcano.

Omega: 1:49:31

Look, sir, numbers don't work with people. If you give numbers don't work. If you throw numbers at people, they get confused and they get even more upset.

Erock: 1:49:43

Yeah, their eyes glaze over and they go.

Omega: 1:49:44

Uh, I'm back in bed. Yeah, they get even more upset. You know what these crazy fucking cult people that I'm using as like a kind of a point? It's like. This is how these cringy people act. It's one fucking one weirdo. It's a bunch of impressionable people who want to be cool, to act a certain way, and then they fuck it up for everybody. Absolutely. We get more government fucking involvement when you get one crazy dude who fucking decides to open fire on a government even though the government's overstepping their bounds.

Erock: 1:50:20

Everybody else suffers, yeah, and then they go okay, we need more rules, even though everyone plays good and follows the rules except for those two people. And now you got to follow in your team or you know everyone you know that plays normal has to follow these dumb rules because of those two people. Yeah, I 100% agree.

Omega: 1:50:44

We just we can't self-regulate ourselves Like people. People are incapable of just being like. You know, maybe I shouldn't act like a dickhead today. Let's have a good day. Let's have a good day today. No, they show up ready to be like I don't care if I get kicked off in 15 minutes, as long as I'm mad up one fucking person and I get it on film. I've done my job.

Erock: 1:51:07

That is cringy, that really is cringy.

Omega: 1:51:10

Yeah, it's fucking terrible.

Erock: 1:51:14

It's been great talking with you, man, I appreciate you, I really appreciate it. Yeah, it's an amazing day. I know it's going to be super cold, but from here, introduce yourself to images from ColumbiaAnyone. It's gonna meet you. Omega. Good luck with all your manufacturing things.

Omega: 1:51:31

Shutout wherever people can find your, your, your, your work, manufacturing work with airsoft guns or whatever. Yeah, so there'll be a website and everything but six millimeter cult. And now we went edgy with the way cult is spelled as KVLT. So, yeah, check it out. M-lock rail guards, pistol grips for AAPs, working on figuring out how to do it for regular high cap as well. There's just gonna be a lot coming up, a whole lot.

Omega: 1:52:03

So this is kind of just the beginning of it. We've got patches, stickers, stuff like that. There's gonna be shirts, all that type of shit, everything to kind of poke cringy people in the eye. Just wait for a shirt that's coming out. I already sent some pictures to a few people and they all freaked the fuck out when they saw it. But the new movement will be hashtag beach, your local cringe softer, and that'll be all across the back of that shirt. So who knows, you know, nice guys finish last. Maybe that'll become a movement and that might change the freaking, might change the climate of airsoft. Right, you know, if parents aren't gonna regulate their kids, maybe the freaking community needs to regulate their kids for them. Absolutely so Awesome, man Brother, I appreciate you. Thank you for your time. Thank you, definitely, definitely. We'll see you again sometime soon.

Erock: 1:53:02

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Omega: 1:53:18

Yeah, thank you. Fuck, you cringe softers.

Erock: 1:53:50

Softers.