Episode 324: SFH- Triumphs of the Human Spirit: Brotherhood, Resilience, and Community

From the raw catharsis of navigating Guillain-Barre syndrome, wartime battle injuries, and childhood abuse to the familial bonds forged through comradery, this conversation is a testament to the resilience and warmth of the human spirit. My guests, Bryan, Ty, Lance, and I peel back the layers of personal challenges and triumphs that have led us to where we are today. We share the evolution of a YouTube channel and podcast, born from the need to connect and heal, that became a central hub for the SFH community—a gathering of individuals determined to support one another through thick and thin. 

It's a tapestry of stories, with threads of honest, unfiltered dialogue interwoven throughout. Discover the profound impact of a simple 'Fuck Cancer' shirt initiative, the strength symbolized by the EKG logo, and the power of a Still Fucking Here tee empowering individuals. We recount moments that define us, including the intense camaraderie within the military, the influence of family dynamics in shaping our worldview, and how these experiences instill a sense of duty that extends beyond service. Our tales of youthful rebellion, memories from Camp Pendleton, and the highs and lows of military life will transport you through a spectrum of emotions.

Ending on a note of hope and solidarity, we invite you to join our tightly-knit crew, whether that's through road trip stories that end in laughter or parenting discussions that reflect a deeper societal conversation. We emphasize the profound impact of community, and how vital it is to have a network that's there for you, especially when the rest of the world seems to spin on without notice. Together, we're planning events with a purpose, aiming to uplift and provide a hand-up, not just hand-outs. So, grab your headphones and settle in for a journey of laughter, empathy, and the reminder that you're never truly walking alone.

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Transcript

Erock: 0:23

Welcome man. Hey, Brad, yeah, I appreciate you guys being on.

Lance: 0:27

Excited to be here. Appreciate you having us.

Erock: 0:30

So I found your channel or page or whatever, because Freddie Lux, VFA Veterans for Airsoft.

Lance: 0:42

Oh yes.

Erock: 0:43

He posted something about it and I think you guys, I don't know, Honestly I can't remember, but I saw maybe you commented on something he had.

Lance: 0:54

We are participating in the event that they have next month.

Erock: 0:58

That's right.

Lance: 0:59

The Memorial Day event.

Erock: 1:01

Memorial Day, yeah, right. So I saw that and then I found your page and I was like, oh, this is cool and I'm trying to branch out with the podcast because let me turn this oh there we go channel in general and it turned into a podcast because my two sons that got into airsoft with their buddy got out airsoft so and I want to continue doing something for the channel and so I was already talking with people like our viewers from our channel on our discord, so they would video.

Erock: 1:45

Call me right on our discord. I was this is before I was able to get out of the house I was laid up. I was paralyzed with an illness a few years ago called guillain-bray syndrome and uh, so I'm? I'm 100, healthy in shape, everything's fine. And then my hands stopped working, my feet stopped working and days later I'm staring at the ceiling, couldn't talk. So life-changing event? Obviously it's definitely a scary one.

Erock: 2:18

Yeah, when I was able to walk down the hallway and get into here and make it into this chair, I sat here and looked at this computer screen like, all right, I need to do something to stay sane. I I was literally going nuts. I was sleeping like two hours a day. I was on 60 milligrams of prednisone a day for a year. I swelled up like a balloon. I gained a hundred pounds like five months stretch marks, like a woman that had twins. Okay, I was angry. I was angry. A lot of outbursts and shit. So I needed something.

Erock: 2:49

I started two other YouTube channels before this one and I did not get into social media before I was sick. I had a Facebook page only for my mom and sisters up in Cleveland Ohio. I live in South Carolina, been down here almost 20 years, so I didn't get into social media like at all. I played video games. I worked like 70 hours a week in a factory. My wife and I have five kids. We've been married a long time. They're all in their twenties. We have seven grandkids and yeah, dude.

Erock: 3:23

So we were busy and then everything just came to a halt. But so I was looking for something to do with my kids. My two boys were in their early 20s. They came home with these airsoft guns that look like real ones and I said, what, what is that? I said let me film it. You know, this would be cool. We started this channel and now I'm doing podcasts. So, but, honestly, the podcast thing turned out to be when I was talking to people on Discord. They would call me, like I said, a video call, because I was working on some of these guns. I was teching some of their airsoft guns as they broke and some of our viewers would call with questions and I'm like, hey, just video call me and show me what you're looking at.

Ty: 4:11

And so we ended up we'd fix the problem in five minutes, but we talk for an hour and I go, you know what.

Lance: 4:14

I'm going to record these connection.

Erock: 4:15

Right, there you go, and I'm going to throw them up on the channel because we had run out of content, Cause my boys weren't weren't really playing airsoft, so I uh damn kids children not playing with toy guns

Bryan: 4:30

kids, children not playing with toy guns right what gets you into the hobby?

Ty: 4:31

and then they run and then they left with that. Yeah, I was being a good father, and here you are, father.

Lance: 4:36

And then they grow up. How dare they how dare they?

Erock: 4:39

yeah, that's actually what happened. They didn't just stop playing, they got. You know, they were in their early 20s when they started they uh, within a couple years they, they all got married, started having kids, had houses, they got promotions at work, different responsibilities, just life, normal stuff. And then I continued with this.

Ty: 5:00

Excuses, I still play Pokemon. I'm about to be 35 and have two kids.

Lance: 5:06

These are facts.

Ty: 5:07

I've seen it if I had a right hand, I could literally grab the switch for you.

Erock: 5:13

It's right there, but I hell yeah yeah, my switch is like it's right here behind this halo figure there you go charging right now I have a.

Ty: 5:24

I have a halo five signed by the entire uh creative arts team.

Erock: 5:29

Oh dude.

Ty: 5:30

Like I don't care about. I was just saying I don't care about it. They made the dang game Like that's the autographs. I was excited for real. I don't even have an X-Box, but I have that.

Erock: 5:40

That's awesome. That was an iconic game for me. I was a. I was a PC gamer before, uh, before that came out for me, I was. I was a PC gamer before, before that came out. And then I went over to my buddy's house who we played games together, whatever on his PC. And then I go over there and he's, you know, for a cookout and he's playing this game on this big screen TV that has vibrant colors. I mean it's fast action. It's like what the hell is this? And he goes oh man, it's his new game called halo. It just came out and I looked at this thing, you know, this little console thing. It looked cool. It had a big X on it. Within a week I went out and got it and I was hooked.

Erock: 6:13

I read all the books. I was hooked on the story and all that stuff. So yep.

Ty: 6:17

Fuck yeah, oh yeah. You got to like when something finds you.

Erock: 6:21

Right, no kidding, yep.

Bryan: 6:25

How I got married.

Ty: 6:28

I'm going to tell her that something made you think of your wife.

Lance: 6:36

You called her a something on the podcast.

Erock: 6:38

Oh, just a love so.

Bryan: 6:39

I thought uh.

Erock: 6:41

I thought, maybe you guys, if you, if you want to take turns and go, uh, introduce yourself real quick, and then, um, we'll get into how you met old Freddy over here.

Ty: 6:50

Age before ugly. Go ahead, Brian.

Lance: 6:52

Brian, roll with it.

Bryan: 6:55

How I met these guys. Well, ty, I met. Well, we all met through a mutual friend, one of our business partners, a guy named Joe Bachman, is how we all met. I met Lance through him bit the tin roof in Orlando, A couple of years actually. What's it been? Three years now, two and a half years. Yeah, lance was not the same guy he is now. He was suffering through PTSD and some traumatic things and I had known him for about four minutes and a guy got in his face and I stood up knowing that he was friends with another friend and I said to his lovely wife what do you want me to do? And she said well, get him out of here. I drug Lance out of the bar with his reject service dog. He can hear you love bandit, he's just, you know, um, and that is the start of the brotherhood that has come.

Bryan: 7:58

I mean I am closer to these guys than I am my own brother. I mean we are there's five of us. I mean we are there's five of us. Four of us are very, very tight. One is kind of on the outskirts a little bit, but there's nobody, you see, in the square that wouldn't take a bullet for the other one or any one of their family, and that's kind of how this thing grows. Sfh was started during COVID by five of us that were just dads trying to see people suffering, see people losing everything. Businesses were shutting down and we wanted to help out. There were people that were fighting to survive. They were cancer survivors and they were abuse survivors and they were recovering addicts and we just wanted to do something to give back. And that is where can I say still fucking, here came from.

Ty: 8:50

We're a podcast, right, I can say that oh yeah, there's no rules as far as youtube, you can't say the c word or the n word well, that doesn't work for any.

Bryan: 8:59

You know anything that we do, so we're good, yeah. And I was gonna say, oh, no, knowing Ty. I mean, there's a guy that has died 13 plus times, sent home to die on American soil, refused to stay dead. There is no better face of our company or positivity ambassador in the world than Tyler J Southern.

Ty: 9:23

Oh, Brian Getting all cartooned off over here.

Erock: 9:27

Yeah, you did.

Ty: 9:27

Don't get teary-eyed already. Man Getting all cartoon basketball over here.

Erock: 9:30

Don't get teary-eyed already, man.

Lance: 9:31

Shucks Piddlesticks if you will, we got time bro, we got time.

Bryan: 9:37

Alright, I'm so anyway, yeah, we'll move on to Lansdowne, I guess How's that?

Ty: 9:43

Oh, we're talking about who we are as people. Awesome, well, I guess. How's that? Oh, we're tagging me. Okay, we're talking about who we are as people.

Lance: 9:48

Awesome. Well, I personally met Brian Seiler I mean mutual friend, same thing and Brian pulled me out of a bar, like you said, evidently to someone twice my size, which I don't remember.

Erock: 10:07

You look like a big dude. That would be like a giant dude If he was twice your size.

Bryan: 10:13

He was a big dude and Lance is not tall. Lance is beefy.

Ty: 10:16

Lance is stocky, but he's not tall.

Lance: 10:18

I'm a short guy. I gotcha. I'm a short, stocky guy that took until high school to be able to get on the fast roller coasters and stuff. I'm the short, stocky guy that took until high school to be able to get on the you know fast roller coasters and stuff.

Ty: 10:28

SFH is short and stocky. That's what we are. No one's tall and lean at SFH.

Lance: 10:36

So I had met Tyler once before, but just in passing. But we got to talking thanks to the same mutual friend and became, like Brian said, the closest of friends. But the biggest thing for me with the whole SFH setup is it has been healing for me to be able to show the things that the three of us have went through and put it out there and say, hey, it's okay to talk about it, hey, it's okay. Other people have been through it and helped them through those walks and that's our whole purpose behind SFH. I mean, as Brian will say, and he'll probably say it three or four times while we're on here, I'm not out to make a fucking dime, I'm out to help other people and help to see other people succeed in their own walk of life, whatever trauma or whatever they're going through right right there's nobody that hasn't gone through the fight of their own.

Bryan: 11:38

I mean, ty's house just shut down on him, um. But you know, ty has been through what I deem the most extraordinary fight of any human being I've ever met. But then Ty will tell you what I went through earlier in my life with my childhood was my hell. So we've all been through something and come out on the other side.

Ty: 12:02

I mean at no point did I have to keep my head on a swivel when I was growing up. You went through something that I've never experienced in my life. So, it's not about comparison either way. Yeah, not at the end of the day.

Lance: 12:17

One person's hell is one person's hell. That is your hell. Everybody has their own state of hell and their own state of hostility or whatever. Not supposed to compare.

Bryan: 12:26

Yeah, never.

Lance: 12:27

Just be yeah, and then yeah, just tell your story, right?

Erock: 12:32

Because when I have people on a if you know the reason I don't have rules on here like censorship and all that kind of crap is I want I want it to be a open conversation, you know, a free conversation. So sometimes people get personal when they're talking on here, you know, uh it just. However the conversation goes and I don't want them to be thinking about, oh dang, I shouldn't have said that word or whatever. I don't care if I put this on every platform out there, every audio podcast platform, every video platform, I can Uh. So if it, if it gets taken down somewhere, uh, oh well, it'll be up somewhere else, like, I don't care.

Erock: 13:13

My mission here is to get the store these people's stories out that they're going to help somebody down the road, right, and I say, you know, I've said it before where you know our self pity, right, the more time I send, spend and self-pity, uh, the more time I'm wasting like this person that maybe a year from now that's supposed to hear my story they're waiting on me and the longer I sit and wallow in the shit, uh I sat in that dark spot for a minute.

Lance: 13:44

I've done it numerous times. And then the day I say all right, I'm done with that.

Erock: 13:48

the next day is great, and then the next day I'm back in the shit again. It's like it just. You know we're up and down sometimes, that's just how it goes. But I want these stories to get out and I want them to be as open and free as possible, and I don't plus, I don't agree with all the censorship stuff anyway. So you know well, I'm from.

Bryan: 14:08

I'm from the philly area, so I I ask because every other word out of my mouth is fuck this and fuck that. From the time I wake up to the time I lay myself down, it's just what we do and that you can speak like that on here as well.

Erock: 14:21

Okay, it's no big deal unless you guys want to. You know, if you're putting us on your channel and you want to hold back for that, that's fine too.

Lance: 14:30

But I'm good with the second word.

Ty: 14:33

I was going to say a third of our logo is fucking.

Lance: 15:17

That's one of my biggest things, because we have this happen to us all the time. Oh, we love your brand, we love what you stand for, but did you really have to use that word? I was like absolutely.

Ty: 15:30

Absolutely.

Lance: 15:31

Because I am still fucking here, and at this point I'm still fucking here for a reason, and so are you, and so is everybody else.

Erock: 15:39

It's a statement and it's a bold statement and it doesn't work with. I mean, do you try other words? What do you try, like uh?

Ty: 15:49

when we have news outlets, we usually go with effing yeah as a yeah, still effing here as far as cause, yeah, news affiliates won't allow us to say it, of course, and they won't. They don't have a fricking. Uh, crap, I can't remember what the dang department's called. That'll bleep it when it and crap, I can't remember what the dang department's called.

Erock: 16:06

That'll bleep it. Oh yeah, yeah, where it's delayed, and then somebody hits the button.

Ty: 16:10

Yeah, most of the news things that they'll throw us on is live or quick turnaround, and they don't have time to play with it. So, yeah, we usually just go with effing Right right.

Bryan: 16:21

Yeah, but our first day on TV. They let effing go and bleeped here.

Ty: 16:25

Yeah, that was hilarious. Still fucking bleep. I was just like yes.

Erock: 16:31

Oh, that's hilarious. Okay, it's a four-letter word.

Ty: 16:34

They had to do it that guy got fired.

Erock: 16:36

Okay, Y'all got somebody fired because of your name.

Bryan: 16:39

Damn. He is with another network now, oh there you go. He moved on Thanks to us. But you know, so many people said something about that that when we put out I don't know if it was our second or third shirt fuck cancer, yeah right right out. I mean, if you're gonna, you're gonna. I mean, I've had some older women at events say and I feel like I'm screaming through this thing it doesn't sound like it you're fine

Bryan: 17:04

older women say well, why do you have the name? Why is it? And if tyler's rolling by, it's just the best to say you see what that man's been through. He's the fucking here right present, and that's enough, right there. If they're not, you tell the story. And I've, I mean my mother's. I'm not gonna say her age, but I'm 56. My mother is older. Okay, she wears our cancer shirt, gotcha um. But then there are some family members of ours that just don't get the name, and that's okay too. We're not for everybody. We're trying to help who we can, help spread the message, and if you don't like it, then if you can't get over a word, then you're probably not our people.

Lance: 17:44

Yeah, yeah, target and my family.

Ty: 17:46

It's not beef with the word. My family's beef is that we don't have colors, yet it's all black and my dad refuses to wear a black shirt. Really, we're getting there if it's not so, yeah, my dad, my dad's a uh, a 20-year navy vet and uh, biker and salesman and all this stuff, like he'll cuss his head off for you. It has nothing to do with fucking being in the title. It has everything to do with that. It's not highlight or orange. He wears the safety colors. He's a walking freaking glow belt Bro.

Lance: 18:21

Tell him to wear it while he's riding his bike, that's his undershirt.

Erock: 18:25

He can take his vest off and be like look Okay.

Ty: 18:29

He won't blackane it and it's funny because he rode a motorcycle since he's 10. And yeah, it will not wear a black t-shirt to save anyone's life, unless it's long sleeve and it's cold, because that man cannot do cold. He left Baltimore and never turned around, let his blood go water thin and he can't handle cold anymore. It's hilarious.

Erock: 18:51

Yeah, I don't like the cold either. My wife and I grew up in Cleveland well, northeast Ohio, akron and I grew up in the cold, went in the Marine Corps. After high school I go yeah, buddy, parris Island.

Ty: 19:15

Yeah, buddy, parris Island, and so.

Erock: 19:16

I come down to Parris Island. It was well, it was October. I went October 11th and then graduated January stationed in Okinawa my first year.

Erock: 19:27

And you know it was hot as hell, Loved it, Loved the heat. And then I spent I don't know if it was a month that we spent over there for Operation Team Spirit in South Korea, but this is Operation Team Spirit 1990. And that's a long time ago, boys. And yeah, so it was cold as shit, bro, Cause it was like during winter, like December or January, something 50 below was nothing.

Erock: 19:55

And I was chosen man Dude we, uh, we were actually the first large group uh, not just my unit, but everyone, all of us that were there the first large group to wear Gore-Tex on an operation.

Ty: 20:08

That's cool.

Erock: 20:09

Isn't that cool? And we haven't heard of it.

Ty: 20:11

I had one of those where we were one of the first units to do get something. That's rad, though. Gore-tex, holy crap, gore-tex bro.

Erock: 20:18

I apologize.

Ty: 20:19

I apologize that I was born in 1989. That's what I went in 1989.

Lance: 20:25

That's what I went. Brian Gortex is weather gear.

Bryan: 20:28

Thank you, it does get cold up here. I know what Gortex is. Appreciate you. Check in buddy.

Ty: 20:34

Oh yeah, that's not a military-only thing. I was going to say it was when I got out of the Corps, and I was talking about man.

Erock: 20:40

We used Gortex over there. Everyone's like what? What is that? You know? It's funny, though we still had the mickey mouse boots that they wore in korea. Uh, the big rubber ones with the little air nozzle on the side, right, that's funny, hell yeah. But yeah, I never liked the cold either, so even now it gets. We had a week here in south carolina that like this was a couple months ago. That was like 17 degrees or below 20 in the mornings. I was like no, who the hell said global warming when?

Ty: 21:17

Over there, just right over there, right, negative 12 at noon where we were in Iraq at one point it went from.

Ty: 21:25

I went july and left in february, so it's freaking 1, 30 and then negative 12 at noon and we were, we were, we were coiled up yeah, oh yeah, I didn't know, um and freak, and well, because we we sent, we spent the summer months in the center of the country and then, um, we had to go to the Syrian border. Pretty much we drove along the border a lot in the cold months. So, yeah, we went way farther north in the mountains Sinjar and all that other stuff, yeah, and we were coiling up in the trucks. We were trying to stop caches and stuff. We ended up stopping cigarettes one time, but we were coiling up. Every day we'd move, dig new mortar pits in the frozen ground and coil up. So we had to stand post in turrets on metal plates and as a floridian I didn't realize how quickly heat gets sucks out of your feets through that metal, because, my god, numb feet hurt way worse than not having feet well I

Erock: 22:33

don't know man.

Bryan: 22:36

I guess at that point, ty, you should introduce yourself, because we passed over that. My name is Tyler.

Ty: 22:42

Southern and I was a corporal in the United States Marine Corps. I went in in 2007 at the age of 17. I made it through Iraq, scot-free. Afghanistan was a different story. I stepped on 10 pounds of homemade explosives two months to the day of deploying and got ejected from the game, spent two and a half years in the hospital, both recuperating, rehabilitating and rebuilding my arm from the elbow down, um, but I am a triple amputee otherwise and uh, now, uh, divorced, father of two, and uh, for a long time, I we're going all the way back to it all right.

Ty: 23:20

So for a long time I I did everything I could to help anyone who needed that extra motivation, that extra push, and then I dove headfirst into being a father and then, amicably, but my marriage fell apart and I didn't have that same helping people anymore and I needed that. I needed that feeling again. Basically, um, I felt as though I was leaving a lot of people behind and, you know, not sharing my gift, um, which. So the mutual friend that has been discussed that was, yeah, super glad that I met him in the first place.

Ty: 24:01

Um, uh, joe Bachman got to be in one of his music videos, which was kind of started the all of it and, yeah, introducing me to these two dudes. I'll always be grateful to him for that, because I'll echo it a third time I don't have friends closer than these two and I'll shoot, even if SFH crashes and burns when we move on to the next thing. They're going to be around till I die, mm-hmm. Um. So yeah, so, sfh, while we desperately want everyone who thinks they're suffering alone to know they aren't, um, the baseline of all of it ends up being the friendship that I have found through it.

Erock: 24:47

Yeah, man. Well, how did you guys, when you guys met, what was? Who had the idea about? Okay, let's do some merch, let's make t-shirts or hats or whatever. How did that kind of start?

Bryan: 25:00

So that goes back to that was Joe's idea. Joe had reached out to me during COVID about an idea he had um on a walk. I don't know if he was on a walk or where he was, but um, he was in the vegas shootings as well. Um went out there to go decompress and wound up, leaving his wife a message that by the time you wake up in the morning you'll hear this happened. I am okay, but they're corralling us all. We don't know what happened.

Erock: 25:24

They're taking our phones, so oh, during that shooting a few years ago.

Bryan: 25:29

Yeah, so he had his and I guess the, the, the sfh is still fucking here came from a lot of people just saying you know, hey, you know I've been through this but I'm still fucking here and right. We decided, I mean, joe kind of reached out to me, and at the time it was the original one, was Joe, myself and Ty. Then our buddy, jason, came along, and then Lance has been there from the start as well and he got roped into it whether he wanted to or not. We didn't even ask, we just said here you're part of us and here now you're going to help me run things.

Ty: 26:02

Man. Since that person stabbed him in the neck, though I You're going to help me run things man, since that person stabbed him in the neck, though I really like that guy.

Bryan: 26:09

But yeah, I don't even think we asked Lance. We just kind of assumed that he was here for the ride and not here a piece of the company. And you know, the three of us do most of the events and everything I said Jason's around Joe is up north. But the clothing we started with the simple sfh logo, um, and the black shirt, and we did some hats and then we did some hoodies and sponsored a music festival and did some sunglasses and the bracelets that everybody loves. We now we have these, the sfh bracelets still fucking here, and we were started giving them to people to let them know that they're not alone.

Ty: 26:48

That was the main thing was how can we tell as many people as humanly possible that not only are they not alone, but we're all on the same team and if you need support, we got you. So like, yeah, we ultimately started making something that would help distinguish you in the crowd of people. So it was like, oh, they got the EKG on their shirt, like they'll get it. I'm going to go talk to that person. Yeah, clothing was kind of the really from the beginning. That was when he started spitting SFH from the get-go. It was about clothing and spreading the message of you're definitely not doing this alone and we are proud of how far you've come and how hard you fought.

Bryan: 27:29

Yeah, and then from there we've gone to, I mean, the EKG and the logo is actually tight. I guess you can kind of see ties, but the EKG is a broken EKG. It's stopped many times but it keeps beating. That's tie. The logo is distressed and tattered and beaten, but still here. Right, yeah, I love it. That's our supermodel Ty.

Bryan: 27:56

And then, from there, we did a strong woman shirt, our version of a Rosie the Riveter, but a modernized one of those and heavily tattooed. I have a wife and a daughter and you know, young girls today are constantly being told they're not good enough and with the world the way it is, so we have the I am woman shirt that says I am enough, I am strong, I am brave, I am everything I want to be. We've got the heart shirt, which is our designer. Barnaby, when we started this process, designed this heart and put it aside for us. Oh yeah, and we were ready for the next thing. That was cool. I made this for you guys the day that I saw Tyler. And again, all these things are up on the website. I'm not here to try to sell a single shirt.

Erock: 28:44

No, I mean that, mean that's yeah, we should promote it that's but again.

Bryan: 28:47

But but.

Ty: 28:48

Once people find us, you can't help but gravitate towards us I was gonna say if you you'll be able to find one of the designs you absolutely love, like that we got. You know, some might not hit home, but you're gonna find one. We got a real cool array of shirts. I I think.

Lance: 29:06

And if you haven't yet, you will eventually, because that is the goal is to have a design that reaches out to anyone that has survived whatever fight they've been through. So we'll definitely get there.

Ty: 29:19

I was saying Alive out of spite, alive, right there I was going to say, I'm looking at your website right now.

Erock: 29:23

I'm actually going to share it if you guys don't mind.

Ty: 29:25

Come on, please share the screen Wearesfhcom.

Lance: 29:33

I don't know if you're able to. If you want to share the video to the viewers too, you're more than welcome to do that as well.

Erock: 29:39

Yeah, I can share whatever man, I'm actually a little bit computer savvy since I started these channels.

Lance: 29:48

I'm like, okay, I got this stuff, you know editing.

Ty: 29:50

Because Ty loves that video. I love watching myself talk. It's my favorite thing ever.

Erock: 29:55

Right.

Bryan: 29:56

Said no one ever. Said every Marine Like you ever see those memes?

Erock: 30:01

You ever see those memes. They're like this anime character that's really straining and he's like uh and it says uh, me or a marine going 10 minutes without telling somebody they're marine I mean, it goes the same with vegans too, is the first thing that comes to mind.

Ty: 30:17

With something like that. You're like right, yeah, how can you tell a vegan? You're like don't worry, they'll tell you it's hilarious ty does. Ty still does his Marine Corps cadences around the kitchen island while he's cooking yeah, there you go well, and I pull out the ones you're not supposed to do in officer country as well, especially with Brian not being military. Yeah, he was losing it. That was good.

Bryan: 30:45

That was a good time my stepfather was first platoon Marines in Vietnam. I told you I have the vinyl Marine Corps. Yeah, he was losing it. That was good. That was a good time. My stepfather was first platoon Marines in Vietnam.

Ty: 30:52

I told you I have the vinyl Marine Corps album. Oh shit, Nice, I know you ain't heard. I wish all the ladies know Song him to sleep when my kids come over.

Erock: 31:02

They're all in their 20s now, but when they come over I always joke with them. I'm like get online. Because when they were little my wife and I had five and seven years, so they're all close together and I would come home from work at like 3, 3.30 in the afternoon. I worked in a factory up in northeast Ohio. I would come home and my wife's, like you know, baby on the hip. She's holding alers hand, she's yelling at the other ones and nobody will listen to her and I shut the TV off and I'm like get online. And I had, you know, between the carpet and the linoleum in the kitchen. That was the line. So I joke at them. Now I'm like get online. They're like shut up dad in your business anymore.

Erock: 31:40

Man, my boys, well to my boys are six one and 320 pounds. They're like they look like my bodyguards when we go out somewhere. So they're like shut up, I'll crush you.

Bryan: 31:52

I would break you. I got one of those sons too. He's the plan of fitness. Pick things up and put them down, kid.

Ty: 31:57

Nice. But I'm the youngest of three boys and I'm the runt by a little, by a lot, and not because of my height, gotcha now, this is your guys website.

Erock: 32:10

Is this who you guys were talking about?

Ty: 32:13

the one we were. Joe Bachman is the dead center fellow there. Jason Sellen is the fellow on the far right. But there's the heart t-shirt, you see, right there. Yeah, lance is wearing it and that's his highly skilled service dog. That's the heart t-shirt you see right there.

Lance: 32:26

Yeah, lance is wearing it in that one, and then that's his highly skilled service dog.

Ty: 32:29

That's the skilled one.

Bryan: 32:31

That's the graduate.

Erock: 32:34

Well, this is what you just said a minute ago, ty, and alive out of spite. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, this is cool man. I like the website, good picture too, and background Right, hell, yeah it is. Yeah, this is cool man, I like the website, good picture too, and background.

Bryan: 32:49

I think on the main page is Tyler's video that he loves so much, but it pretty much describes who we are if you go back to the we do ship internationally.

Ty: 33:14

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Erock: 34:11

I I end up feeling a need like I feel, like I'm it's out there I like your ninja move at the end yeah that's awesome um, everybody loves that move it's's awesome.

Ty: 34:28

That was the most revolting part of the whole thing. I wish they would have cut that off there. But have you seen? Meet the Parents the movie yeah yeah. So back when they did gag reels or like the, just the funnies at the end, uh-huh, uh, yeah, meet the parents when he was, when uh de niro was watching uh stiller talking to the freaking spy cams and oh, oh, oh, you know, can you deal with that? That was what I did at the end of the thing, nice, and I felt like an idiot.

Bryan: 35:03

Yeah there was no way that was ever getting cut out.

Erock: 35:07

It actually makes a video. Man, honestly, I love it. Yeah, because I was watching. I actually watched some of your podcasts and listened to the first episode earlier today While I was driving around, and I saw you were doing that kind of ninja stuff here and there. You know, I thought it's cool. Oh yeah, okay, so you guys got a bunch of stuff, so so yeah, I'm computer savvy. I don't know what the hell a tab is up here. Okay, don't worry about it. I'm getting there, that's okay.

Ty: 35:46

I'm just glad you don't have specific tabs up.

Bryan: 35:49

I'm probably older than you, so I mean you know.

Erock: 35:53

Yeah, I'm 53, so.

Bryan: 35:54

I'm 56. I'm the old guy in the group, usually, right?

Erock: 35:58

So you guys got a bunch of stuff.

Bryan: 36:02

We're trying we got a meeting next week to expand some things, add some colors in, bring in some different things, at least put one orange t-shirt on there for Ty's dad, okay, yeah.

Bryan: 36:12

That bracelet right there that you see, we never sold them until, I guess, a month ago when someone reached out and said I need these are as broke, I need to be able to give them to people. Yeah, and I said usually we give them at events. You know we don't have one coming up for a while, so we just, you know, there's the cost of the bracelet. I mean some people are paying more for shipping than the bracelets and they're buying them by the half a dozen. Yeah, um, because it means a lot. We have a friend, um, down in the orlando area that went in for a surgical procedure and when he came out they cut the wrong bracelet off, not the hospital bracelet. His wife reached out in a panic lance, I think, overnighted them. Yeah, nice. So I mean, people become attached to this. You're not alone with this.

Lance: 36:55

Um, right, and that is a reminder and like exactly, and it's a reminder and the thing is, is that's what we want to get across? Like I said, I've been in that dark hole and the biggest that, the biggest thing, that not just veterans, but anyone that gets into that type of mental trauma or darkness you, you think that the only one that can understand you is you and you seclude yourself from all the people that actually love you and they can care for you, that can help you heal, and that's what we're trying to get people get out of that darkness, come out and there's people that can help you heal.

Ty: 37:30

And that's what still fucking here is trying to do or they'll hit you with the comparison crap and it'll just be like, oh, I was only beat my whole youth. I have nothing to compare to this wildly broken marine like and I'm just like, yeah, no, different stories equal different struggles, different trauma. Like it's yours and own it, and your beautiful bald head makes me smile every time god, I sort of like the beautiful baldness. No, you don't. I know you don't like me. You love me.

Erock: 38:02

You love me yeah, one of the guys, this happens to me as well, and when people find out my story or how I started or whatever, that's terrifying. Yeah, it is yeah, because I'm thinking okay, I broke some bones, I had, you know, I got scratches and scrapes and stitches and whatever. I fell off a truck, I fell off the Connex box on the back of a LVS.

Ty: 38:29

Oh God yeah.

Lance: 38:31

In.

Erock: 38:32

Okinawa at Naha Port I fell and those LVSs are pretty high.

Lance: 38:38

That sounds a bit sounds uncomfortable by the way, what's that?

Erock: 38:45

that sounds a bit uncomfortable. I wouldn't advise that. It was a little. You know. I'm telling you what I did, okay, so, uh, they have this spare tire in between the cab and the back, okay, where it pivots. So these tires tires are huge. They weigh like 500 something pounds. Okay, so I'm on top of the Connex packs. I'm going to jump down on this tire. Yeah, it's no problem, instead of like turn around and kind of shimmying down Right, yeah, I'll just jump. I'm at what Harder not?

Ty: 39:11

smarter.

Erock: 39:12

I'm good. So it's like a, it's like a trampoline. Bro, I went flying in the air laying on my face. My left eyebrow was totally gone. Uh, it was, it was, it was fun. I broke my arm, but uh, anyway. So I'm thinking, okay, injuries, yeah, big deal, whatever, you know, in the back of my mind, just going through life.

Erock: 39:34

I never expected something like that, you know, because I didn't have anyone close to me that's paralyzed, not recently, you know. I mean somebody's in high school, yeah, but, um, it's not something you think about all the time. And then I certainly didn't think I never even heard of this stuff. I mean, I heard of MS and it's in kind of the same family. At least it has the same effect on your body or whatever it's. It's demyelinating, so it tears down the myelin sheath. So your brain works fine, all the signals are fine, your muscles work fine, you just it's not getting the signal.

Erock: 40:09

So, um, yeah, it was terrifying, man, I was like, oh shit, I'm like, this is it. I'm going to lay here and now I won't even be able to like tell them, just put my face in a puddle of water for five minutes, okay, like, just just and and walk away Cause I didn't want to be remembered like that for my kids. Um, but yeah, so when I tell people and then they're on here and then they go to they talk about their stuff, they always kind of pre-qualified or qualify you know like well, it's not as bad as yours. I'm like, don't say that Just tell your story.

Ty: 40:43

We're not collecting hardships over here. I don't want to have been through everything that everyone else has For real, I got my own stuff to deal with.

Bryan: 40:55

Man, I think that's all in how you're raised, though, too. You know your parents. I parents. I mean you're walking as a kid and as a kid in the park in a wheelchair, and your parents are saying you could always have it so much worse. You have shoes, you have food. You had a piece of cheese today. Shut up and look at them over there. That is so true man Shut up kid.

Erock: 41:13

There's children starving in China.

Bryan: 41:15

They used to say you don't even know my in. China, you don't even know, my generation was Ethiopia, but yes, Ethiopia.

Erock: 41:21

right, I forgot about that.

Ty: 41:22

It was always the starving kids in Africa but I'm like the rains were blessed at least.

Bryan: 41:29

Yes, they were. I said something once to my father, stepfather, and again I was a stupid teenager and he would go on my case for something. And I looked at him. I said if they were really hungry, they'd eat the flies buzzing around on them. That is all I remember.

Lance: 41:49

Okay, there wasn't solid, honestly there wasn't very solid, it wasn't, that is true okay bear grills proved it all right, I'm just saying.

Ty: 42:00

I'm just saying, insects are mostly protein, absolutely crickets are delicious.

Bryan: 42:05

I mean yuck but whatever, I think it was pretty much lights out after that for a while to each their own.

Ty: 42:11

I accidentally called my dad a douche or him and my mother a douche bag to their face and yeah, I don't remember the next few minutes very well. It was one of those, like just only happened once, huh it was.

Ty: 42:25

It was a leap. Then look situation for sure. Um, upon further inspection, and it took a day and a half to or. Well, the second time he got on me was when I used context clues to figure out what probably happened. But uh, it was when I was trying to join and they wouldn't sign everything. I was 17. I told him you know, if I have to wait till I'm 18, you I'll sign up still, and you'll never see me again.

Ty: 42:49

I was like I don't know why y'all are being such douchebags about this is apparently what I said. But um, yeah, no, he, yeah, he got me even with his shoulders and then I was on the concretion and then I had a knee in my throat and then, like an 80 pound neighbor, was like hey, lee, get off him. And I was just like I have no idea how I got on the ground or why I'm here. And mom got him off me and was like go to your room. I have no idea what's going on either. And when he comes, tackles me on me on the bed and there's a. You know what happened in the Marine Corps? You call EA the douche bag.

Ty: 43:21

And I was like aha, I must've called him a douche bag, okay, Mad.

Erock: 43:29

I get it now?

Ty: 43:30

I was just like yeah, oh, that's awesome, Good I.

Erock: 43:36

I think I was 16. My dad worked day shift whatever. He worked in a factory and then later on in high school and I went off on my mom. I'm a middle child between two sisters, so I was sitting here practicing the guitar and my mom kept bugging me about this one thing that I was in the youth group at church and I was kind of done with it. I was starting to rebel.

Erock: 44:04

When I was 16, I started sneaking out drinking and sneaking out going to parties and stuff. So I was like you know, once I went to a few parties and drank I'm like parents, what you don't know shit. Okay, so I had this real big chip on my shoulder and, uh, and she starts talking to me and I I threw the guitar against the wall and said I'm not going to that effing meeting. Okay, so I walked out. Yeah, my dad got home and my mom is a little tiny italian lady, okay, and uh, she hates for me to tell her age, brian, by the way, she always gets mad when I say it. But uh she's older.

Erock: 44:45

So she, my dad, gets home and he's like six foot big dude is his fingers look like a five pack of Snickers, right, they're like thick as hell. And uh, my mom tells him and he puts me up against the fridge and it was just one finger in my chest point, you know, poking me as he's talking. And I remember, not because I was scared, just because I was scared, but I was like I never thought of it this way. He goes that's not your mom You're talking to, that's my wife. And I was like, oh shit, this dude's going to eat my ass. Yeah, it's like okay, yeah, never talked to my mom like that again ever.

Ty: 45:23

Not only did you not have the moral high ground, but you really don't have the moral high ground. I'm a double down bitch. Oh god. No, that's a. That's crazy. That was a line and realization that my father didn't teach me. But I heard it along the way, where I was like, oh shit, yeah, I remember. Yeah, the I hate you mom thing got me choked up against the wall one time. And realization that my father didn't teach me. But I heard it along the way, where I was like, oh shit, yeah, I remember. Yeah, the I hate you mom thing got me choked up against the wall one time. Yeah, talking shit about my wife. And I'm like, ooh, I was like she was definitely your wife before she was my mother. Yeah right.

Bryan: 45:51

You've known her longer. This is true. I will defend her ass and take you apart. Oh yeah, Well, I grew up fast too.

Erock: 46:00

I was 12. When I was 12, I had a growth spurt. So I was, you know, tallest kid in class and around. I don't know older teenager or middle teenager I started doing. People didn't really go to gyms too much.

Bryan: 46:15

You didn't hear about this back in the you know 70s 80s, back when they were inventing jogging New, you know, seventies, eighties, back when they're inventing jogging.

Erock: 46:23

New balance, baby, new balance. I'm telling you now. Yogging, I did pushups and uh, you know what I did? I lifted, uh, I put all the encyclopedias my mom and dad had in duffel bags and used them as as weights to curl and stuff, and I just hung out in the wood we had a woods behind our house. I hung out there in the woods with my BB gun, but, um, but yeah, I would just, you know, go work out and uh, I was. I was pretty big when I was 13, 14 years old, compared to everybody else. By the time I was 15, I was growing a mustache, so I could actually buy beer at 16. Uh, the drinking age back then in Ohio was 18, not 21. So I could go in and buy beer. They thought I was 18, and nobody questioned it. It was no big deal back then. So we were good, bro, okay go get a 15-pack of Strohs.

Erock: 47:09

When the 15-packs first came out, we were like oh shit, this is awesome. So many beers, it's three more.

Bryan: 47:16

This started to thin about the same point. I mean, I was working as a bouncer in a bar. I think it's 17 years old. Nobody ever asked for id back then and you know I was 21, so I think for my, by the time I hit 21 I was done with the bar scene I'd had it.

Ty: 47:29

That's it. That's the shit with my dad. That was he the. When I was up at bethesda recuperating, um, we'd we'd go through baltimore and he'd be like, oh, that used to be this. I can't believe they could build a neighborhood on top of all those condoms. That's the bar I had my first beer in and I was like it still exists. And I was like when was that dad? And he was like, oh, 10, 11. And I was like, fucking what? They gave a 10, 11 year old a beer. And he's like, like when you ride up on a motorcycle, people don't ask questions. And it's like in the late 60s. Maybe the facial hair helps. I was gonna say y'all are over here bragging because they were making fun of me this morning. This is the extent of the facial hair I'm capable of as a 34 year old male. Um, this little thing on my chin um, and then?

Ty: 48:18

I didn't look not 14 until I turned 30 like I, the whole the, the entire first decade of being blown to smithereens was I got a lot more sympathy out of people because they I looked 12. Um, I mean I got hurt when I was 20, but uh, I mean I, when the week I turned 30 I was like, oh shit, I kind of look 30 now right. And and it was funny because again right after I turned 30, it was less people were more blown away by my injuries because I looked old enough to have them. But you were talking about, uh, not getting carded. I got carded for a rated r movie in this life, in a wheelchair, in a tank top, and I'm like you don't think I'm 17, what like I was like, even if I was born this way, I'm covered in tattoos like my parents are right, cool, like I didn't, I never did that that's not much different from the shoe lady at the shoe store asking you what your shoe size was.

Lance: 49:19

I'm just that lady in the throat just like the mexican.

Ty: 49:21

Just like the mexican gate guard.

Lance: 49:25

Oh, and then yeah, the mexican gate guard.

Ty: 49:28

Uh, she, they couldn't figure out taking my wheelchair from me. I have 175 pound segway wheelchair. That, uh, going to mexico was the first time flying with it and going to mexico was easy as hell. They took it. They treated it like a manual chair. They took it from me, put me in one of the airplane chairs, threw it under a plane, told people you'd have to drag it whatever. They couldn't figure out kilos versus pounds. And then we're sitting there an hour before we're supposed to start boarding and I'm in my personal chair at the gate and getting nervous. This woman comes up and says could you walk from here?

Ty: 50:05

Whoa 200 at least yards down the gangway to the plane.

Lance: 50:09

The most serious face you've ever seen in your life.

Ty: 50:12

Oh my God.

Lance: 50:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah, do you think you can walk from here, what.

Ty: 50:18

I was like I blow english lady the fuck that's crazy bro. Yeah, she hurt my feelings on that one just like yeah right your parents wasted so much time should have been thrown out like. This is part of situation. You should have been thrown out Like this is part of the situation you should have been thrown off. The mountain at the beginning.

Erock: 50:40

Oh, that's funny. So what did they do?

Ty: 50:45

What was it like 10 minutes before we left?

Lance: 50:47

Oh yeah, they finally got you.

Ty: 50:48

Yeah, they finally got me in a manual chair and took it away, and the man who took it gave me zero confidence that it was going to end up on the right plane anyways, you should have saw how far they wanted him to walk.

Ty: 51:00

Yeah, they had no shit. 200 yards at least. It very well could have been closer to three. It was like from the gate down an entire long ass gangway to the damn plane. Fuck out of here, lady. I'll do it to prove a point, but I'm not going to do it because you think I'm supposed to. Even like Mexico. Yeah, yeah, that's funny. The whole trip went off without a hitch and coming home, we went to Mexico.

Erock: 51:31

I was stationed at Pendleton, my last duty station at Edson Range. It's a small little tiny range in Pendleton, but not too far from camp delmar, if you've been there and um 29 palms yeah, okay, yeah, 29 stumps.

Ty: 51:48

I had a buddy out there yeah, I'd say zero palm trees in this place, yeah right, we went out there to uh.

Erock: 51:54

He's like oh, come on, we'll drink and stumble party. I'm like like man, there's nothing out here, bro, there's nothing out here, but to drink. Yeah, I get it.

Ty: 52:03

I'm glad I was never stationed there. We always had to do the CACs, the combined arms exercise thing. Yeah.

Ty: 52:08

Because, I was. I did my well. I was only in three years. I served a three-year sentence on Lejeune, yeah, june. So two different CACs had to go to 29 Palms twice the 1-2, the unit I was in we used to call it the 1-2 Cloud, because wherever we went, fucking chaos and turmoil seemed to follow, and in CACs it rained the worst. It rained in 125 years, to the point that the last two Connex boxes down that huge hill on Camp Wilson were underwater, like not flooded to where no one could be in them, underwater, and they left a 7 ton at the bottom of the hill. Oh shit. So they got it back like almost a month later, whenever they could get to it, that's crazy bro.

Ty: 53:01

But yeah, good times. That's my California experience as far as the military goes, twisting ankles on all of those ranges, because what's gravel right? It has to be giant fucking boulders For sure, doc had to do a lot of work out there. Oh, yeah.

Erock: 53:21

Lance, is that what you were? Navy yeah.

Lance: 53:24

I was a corpsman Marineside.

Ty: 53:25

Yep.

Lance: 53:27

Pretty much was a Marine corps my whole career and then went IDC so I didn't stay with the Marineside.

Ty: 53:33

Nice and you got through boot camp right. Yes, so you were Marine first and then they wouldn't make you a doctor. So you're like fuck that noise. And then drop the tur and just became doctor.

Lance: 53:45

No, I got hurt in SOI. Yes knee.

Ty: 53:50

There we go. Sorry, I was going to say I couldn't remember if it was right at the end of boot camp or if it was in SOI, in SOI, because I was like you, absolutely were a marine okay, and then as a corpsman, the first place uh, they decided to send me is camp geiger oh yeah, that's where I went to.

Lance: 54:06

Uh, mct and I'm like now I am the corpsman for all of these.

Ty: 54:12

Yeah, yay, all right. So mct brian is is I?

Erock: 54:17

I wish I was in the infantry um basically well, we don't have a choice to go okay, it's required. I don't know if it still is, but back it's marine combat training.

Ty: 54:27

Yeah, if you're not a grunt, you have to go to mct so that you know the weapons. So it's like 21 days in the field or something, where they let you play with all the toys, slash, make you play with all of them, um, and then you go off to do your regular job, school and go be whatever you were going to be, and then all of us have to go to ITB or the school of infantry and figure out the ins and outs, all that bullshit. But yeah, so I appreciate his take on it because there's a lot of guys that think MCT was something hard. It's just like, oh, shut up, I don't want to watch your dreams today.

Ty: 55:03

Yeah, it was good time. It was camping and shooting guns.

Erock: 55:06

Yeah, I mean, that's what we went in for, that was like the best thing. And you always had this one corporal that was kind of like almost like a shit bird, but not quite, and he was always, you know, the one in charge of us and he's like, all right, all right, you're going to do this today, like okay dude, pull back real hard.

Ty: 55:21

Go trigger, trigger, trigger, right, yeah, we had the Mark 19.

Erock: 55:26

Got to shoot that, the AT-4. I actually qualified in boot camp with the 1911. And when I came back from overseas, yeah, I know.

Lance: 55:40

When I came back from overseas.

Erock: 55:40

Yeah, I know uh, when I came back from overseas I had to uh, I got corporal. Okay, so I got. I went through the gauntlet, earned a blood stripe, do all this stuff, okay, got my uh chevrons pinned on and uh. And then I had to go through a combat pistol course with the new beretta okay, that they switched to, so I had to requalify with that. But I didn't last as a corporal.

Erock: 56:04

We had a company party on the beach. It was so wasted I blacked out, me and my buddy ended up out in town. We stole a truck, joyrided around, got picked up, spent the weekend in San Diego, jail, got charged with grand theft auto and I thought I was done. I remember the morning after that, saturday morning, I had a phone call or I was able to make a phone call call my parents, my dad. I'm telling my dad and he's like what the hell did you do? Now, eric, you know, and I was like, well, I'm in jail, stole a car, but we didn't know we did it because we were drunk, blah, blah, blah. He's like take your medicine like a big boy, click. It's like, oh shit. But it got knocked down, got to a misdemeanor and they said because you're exemplary military service and because the guy that we stole the truck from was a Marine Corps vet and Vietnam vet and we took it. It was a pickup truck. We drove around and we brought it back. We were like, oh shit, we stole a truck.

Ty: 57:12

Yeah, this isn't any of our vehicles.

Erock: 57:15

We took it back. We were driving around Ocean Slime or Oceanside.

Ty: 57:28

Took it back by the bar and, uh, police were there and caught us.

Erock: 57:30

Duh, so yeah anyway, but it's not stealing if we bring it back right a month or something. Yeah, I had to requalify with the uh. Was it m92 or?

Ty: 57:36

so m9 or something there's a lot of twists and turns and ups and downs in that story that you just told, and starting with the 1911, was Chesty a dick in real life?

Erock: 57:47

I'm curious you see my gray hairs.

Ty: 57:53

Was Johnny Barcelona.

Lance: 57:54

Everything we were told he was Oceanside threw me for a loop too right, son of a bitch, I was like, so I ended up 90 earlier, huh yeah, so I graduated high school 90 earlier yeah, right oh yeah 1989.

Ty: 58:12

I went in october of 89, so yeah, yeah, got I was two months old, right, but the oh fuck, I had it again and I lost it again.

Erock: 58:25

Did you spend some time in Oceanside?

Ty: 58:28

I did. No, I Stories Fella, whose wife took him for everything and tried to pull the plug on him a couple times. He met her in Oceanside driving her fresh, freshly minted ex-husband's truck and I was just like bro. She was made of red flags. What's wrong? With you um oh corporal that was what it was corporal fucking uh no, no, no. Tyler sees other red flags quite well, he doesn't see his own dude, Dude, I'm the king of giving excellent advice that I don't listen to. We've met Brian.

Lance: 59:06

The three of us are not different.

Ty: 59:08

I've also I've learned my lessons. Damn it y'all. I'm going to say the corporal thing before I forget again. You were talking about being a corporal for five minutes. It ended up costing me the legs and the arm to make corporal. Oh shit.

Ty: 59:26

Because I was a three-year corporal, which is, I mean, at the time was pretty quick. But I had a non-recommendation from like November and got hit in May and he lifted the non-rec because I got injured. And then I picked up June 1st, so like I literally had to get a purple heart for him to lift the non-rec and the non-rec was literally nothing more than like he was a dick. I didn't even have anything on paper that he would have had a solid reason for one of those. But he's a gunny and he can do that. He friend requests me every once in a while on the interwebs. I'm just like I'm. So okay, I promise.

Erock: 1:00:10

That's funny.

Lance: 1:00:12

He says I giggle, then move forward.

Ty: 1:00:15

Tee hee Okay.

Erock: 1:00:21

Lance, you went in. You actually went into the Marine Corps.

Lance: 1:00:24

In 97. Oh shit, okay, and then I went. I went in the Navy in 2000. I, like I said, very short time in the Marine Corps.

Erock: 1:00:34

Cause of injury.

Lance: 1:00:34

Yeah, the three mile, the three mile that you have to run when you get to soi.

Ty: 1:00:41

I blew out my knee on that three mile at least it was at the beginning yeah like got like that would really suck if it was like one of the final training evolutions and then you were going to still be getting out and medically separated because yeah, fuck right, there's a bunch of just dumb shit at soi that you missed out. Thank god, like you didn't miss out, oh yeah.

Lance: 1:01:00

And I mean and then no fathom in going back at the time and I started my attempt to going to pre-med and in hopes to go into med school and realized how expensive that could get. I was working a 12-hour shift in cardio and then working the bus, the ambulance every other weekend and then going to class during the day. So it got old fast.

Ty: 1:01:33

I'm tired of thinking about that.

Lance: 1:01:35

Yeah, it got old fast. And then in 2000, believe it or not, a friend that my sister went to school with was a Navy came in in a program that they no longer use called a gen debt program. So I went in undesignated for 15 months before I went to core school. Um, so I went to the ship for 15 months. I ended up being there for 13 months. So, um, anything with the gen debt program, anything over 18 months, it would have been a breach of contract and I could have got out. So, but went to core school and straight out of core school I pretty much spent the majority of my time with the Marines, either at places like SOI or deployed with different units, or deployed with different units, and ended up doing seven combat deployments and got the luxury of getting my bell rung hard enough to get a decent TBI and decent TBI.

Ty: 1:02:57

I'm over here excited you're getting through this story so well.

Lance: 1:03:00

Oh, thanks. And so TBI, chronic PTS and, like I said, through the whole thing, once I got out I was in a pretty dark place, made some bad decisions, made some good decisions later. That's why I'm still fucking here, mm-hmm. But that first two years was a freaking roller coaster. After that I actually got off of half of the medications that was making me feel like a zombie and started working with medicinal cannabis. That helped a lot. It didn't help certain things that were going on with my body, with my PTS and everything. I was given the opportunity to get a shot called the SGB shot the stellate ganglion block, and it's a shot in the neck. That pretty much the theory behind it is to put to sleep the fight or flight mechanism. So when it wakes up it's not as irritated it was hard to reboot.

Lance: 1:04:06

Yep, I slept for 18 hours. Hadn't done that for years. I hadn't well, I hadn't slept more than four hours for years. Let me be honest, uh, yeah, so sleep was, was not something I did for a very long time. Um, but I slept and I woke up and I'd say, probably within a week, I started feeling like, okay, yeah, it's still my PTS and everything's still there, but I'm in control of it. It's not. It's not controlling me, it's not controlling my everyday life and everything like that far less reaction mode.

Lance: 1:04:40

Yeah, oh yeah and then since I mean since then I've gotten it off even more my va meds, which is freaking phenomenal. Um, the goal is to hope to get off all of them if possible, but we'll see. But, with that being said, a lot of people get this shot that I received and it doesn't last very long or it's not successful on the first time. The reason why I bring that up is no matter what type of trauma you've been through, there is an answer out there for you. Never stop looking, never stop fighting to find that answer, because there is an answer out there for you. Um it uh, believe me, I did some pretty crazy. I had literally lasers in my freaking brain. Come on, um, that was one of that was one of the treatments that they tried on me. So, like when you're, when you're in that type of situation and you want to be out of it, yeah, find a way out, oh yeah you're desperate.

Lance: 1:05:40

That's what we're here for. Is is hey, you want to find a way out, we, we are here to help you, right? Because? Because we, finally we get it. We figured it out why medicine.

Erock: 1:05:52

Why just choose medicine? What got you into that?

Ty: 1:05:57

um I was gonna say in alabama it was either make it uh, unprofessionally or go somewhere else and do it professionally.

Erock: 1:06:06

So I mean there you go no, I mean uh, why'd you? Why'd you choose the medical field?

Lance: 1:06:13

So I had a thing with medicine pretty much since I can remember honestly and always wanted to do something in the medical field. And I mean, as a sophomore in high school I was already riding the truck as an intern. By my junior year I was actually riding the truck as a basic emt. My senior year I was actually riding the truck as an emt because I was only going because you know that last year high school, depending on how many classes you have left, you have more time so and I just enjoyed, uh, being able to help others and at the end of the day, that's the same reason why we're doing what we're doing is I just feel I enjoy the passion of being able to help others. I don't want to dime from you. I don't, as Tyler would tell you, tell people all the time. I don't want your sympathy. I want you to see me as a human being because I'm here and, yeah, I survived through shit, but that's not all that I am.

Ty: 1:07:23

I would say we're addicted to serving.

Lance: 1:07:26

Yeah, we can't serve our country anymore.

Ty: 1:07:29

So we're serving the way we did. Now we're serving our country's people did.

Lance: 1:07:32

Now we're serving the our country's people in a different way, doing our best to get everyone we can get another reason why we it's not just about better and just about everybody, because the human race as a whole has to come together and figure out what the hell is going on with our mental health and it's crazy to watch behind these two guys, because I love to stand behind them and watch them interact with people.

Bryan: 1:07:53

I mean, ty does it with his energy and the smile and the chair he buzzes around people. I mean the irreverent warriors thing. He just brings people together and you can't help but smile when you're with ty. You can't. Um, I tell the story and and the first time my mother met Ty and she had seen videos and she goes. When I meet him I'm going to cry and I said you cry, you're out of here, you're gone because we're not about that. And within four minutes she came over and she goes. Oh my God, I get it. I understand there's no reason to cry. And Lance is. He's stepped away, but he's a little more subdued in the way he does it. But lance's goal is to help one person every day. That if lance can help point one person in the right direction every day, he doesn't need to do anything else. Um, and for me that's the best part of this. I mean, I'm the guy that was supposed to be in the background of this whole thing. This face was never supposed to be on the website, on TV.

Lance: 1:08:56

I was the guy in the back. We dragged him, kicking his screen into the limelight, you will be famous.

Bryan: 1:09:06

So the nice two things I just said about those guys, we can just edit that right out right, yeah, just cut that.

Ty: 1:09:15

We're going gonna strike it. Well, no talking about that sgb shot and how, because again, he compared to me, most people seem muted but but yeah, of the two of us it's yeah, I'm a firecracker and he and he, he gives you very chill and not monotone but very chill and um, butotone but very chill and um, but we would never have gotten here as friends or partners or anything, because without that shot because I, I wasn't there for the uh, almost fight situation it was much quicker to anger back then. But, um, the couple that I, the couple of events that I saw him at, he was just the quiet dude in the corner with the dog between his legs and got a grunt and a nod and a uh-huh, yeah, and whatnot out of him. For the first two or three times I saw him and was just kind of an acquaintance. He's a friend of my people, so he's my people. But yeah, after the shot, whole different dude, holy shit, hell, the Sonata on the way to Atlanta, some kid picked us.

Ty: 1:10:18

We were taking a road trip to get the dog I got a dog about two months ago and I wrote people who drive with me this is where the happy-go-lucky boy turns off and I'm my father with the foul-mouthed sailor and I will run people off the road because I have road rage in a way that's awesome and not okay. Um, yeah and no, I only let the intrusive thoughts win once. I'm sorry, brian. Um, he'll never let me live that down anyway. I think I just I, you were thinking it hard enough.

Lance: 1:10:52

I saw it on the wrinkles yeah, yeah, I read them.

Ty: 1:10:56

I read the braille across your forehead um, but uh, no, yeah, this, this child in a sonata uh, decided that he wanted to fuck with us. Only like, every time I tried to get around him he would, he'd floor it. Uh, anytime I got back in front, a guy had to get back behind him. He'd slow down enough that we had to too. Oh my god, um, and we were both just like look, I couldn't handle it yeah, no, and it was so.

Ty: 1:11:23

It was the weirdest thing ever, because I didn't even get frustrated. Really, we're both. We're just both sitting there giggling about it. He wasn't making us go too slow. No, like I just wanted to go faster um, I think we were still technically speeding but we finally, but we finally got to see karma in action.

Ty: 1:11:41

So it was the best because, yeah, we came over an overpass in georgia where they like to hang out. There was a cop in position and uh, and immediately, and we're just yeah, and so me and sonata are getting over, slowing down because I know I'm, I'll pull over quick if I know they're pulling out for me, because that's just something added, like I'm fucked up, you caught me okay, like I'll take it on the chin, where would I earn?

Ty: 1:12:07

but uh he, he scooted right past us and got behind the Sonata and I was just like nice, we got, we pulled out and had gotten slow enough that we had enough time to roll down all the windows, and just as we drove past and the woman that we assume is his girl was getting mad as shit the whole time Anyways we kept seeing her just the whole time in the rear windshield and then they get pulled over.

Ty: 1:12:36

I'm like, yep, they're probably not dating anymore. Right, I was like karma served, I didn't have to get mad and what I just yeah we got there an hour early anyway. So, like we got, we got where we were going in ample time, so it worked out. But yeah, yeah, that was a big To him get so mad at someone for no fucking reason in a bar, to this dude actively fucking with us.

Bryan: 1:13:02

There was a reason, Ty, for me to get up and go over to a complete stranger.

Bryan: 1:13:10

You know what I'm saying, though it's weird. He slept for 18 hours. I've texted him with with amber, his wife, to check on him. She goes, he's sleeping. I'm scared. You know he hasn't slept. And then I guess that's tuesday, he passes out wednesday, goes by, thursday, he calls me, goes. Hey, buddy, I gotta look howdy, I gotta look at the name on the phone to see who this happy person is on the other line. And that was the start of the rebirth of Lance and the guy you see in front of you. And I mean I'll tell you that every day for the first eight weeks I said how are you today? How are you today? Is it off? Do not ask that. I haven't asked that question in a year and a half. It's just what's going on? What are you up to today?

Bryan: 1:13:53

right um, but no, I mean, I mean we've. You know, every friday morning we have a weekly conference call and discuss things, and um, the three of us together are just so much fun, and jason's around, you know we. He's an added bonus as well, because he makes us laugh and um we're just trying to make, I guess, a sense of community, right that's.

Lance: 1:14:16

That's the word that we keep going back the goal.

Ty: 1:14:18

The goal is to make a true community, a true community that is looking out for each other's back and there to help each other when they're falling, and that's pretty much what we want to do oh man, I mean, there's been a few, a bunch already about prime examples of y'all stopped me from getting arrested in mexico and stopped you from drowning in mexico, and um, there was a whole bunch of stuff that, like, we're just like no one was like yeah somebody.

Ty: 1:14:48

Oh no, that was, it almost wasn't, because I almost killed that dude, but everyone was just like get in front front of Tyler right now. Make sure he can't get his wheelchair around you right now, because if he gets past you, he's fucking gone.

Lance: 1:15:02

I don't think the chair we're going to drive for now on for a little bit, because the chair didn't do too well in Mexico. I finally have a spare, though that's fucking amazing Right.

Bryan: 1:15:19

Got a flying one and a stay in here one. There you go. So but, ty, I'll tell you, the best thing about all of this now is I mean, we are, go, we're in our what? Third year, right number three, and, out of nowhere, somebody not affiliated with us, not from florida, not from the east coast. We'll get a picture of somebody wearing one of our shirts in washington state or the bahamas, or a bracelet. We call it sfh in the wild.

Ty: 1:15:42

Yeah I got. I've gotten you a few from cali, or yeah, from cali and canada nothing makes me happier in life to go.

Bryan: 1:15:49

How the fuck did they find out about us? In kalamazoo, michigan, right, or, you know, idaho or a couple of? Well, now we got a couple of friends in canada and we sent some shirts to england, and there's a guy in the bahamas, australia too, you walk in australia. But you walk into this um the gone fishing bar in the nassau bahamas. Our shirt is in the rafters, yeah that's awesome Our koozie's on the end of his bar and I'm going. This is three years old baby.

Lance: 1:16:16

We got the opportunity to film a music video out there with one of our ambassador musicians, Jeff Huffman.

Ty: 1:16:26

We need to get the stickers made again, with the logo sized properly and the website on it. And just every time we travel anywhere, bring a stack and start sticking them in freaking places and taking pictures, because, hell, and if you can get them done by freaking Cincinnati, we'll fuck up gas stations along the way, brian what just? Happened.

Lance: 1:16:52

I'm just trying to figure out how much bail money I need bail money it's not illegal to put stickers on things.

Ty: 1:17:01

I don't think, I don't think you can't put a sticker on like a cop car. I mean we're not going to put them on mailboxes I'll pay for that one Ty well, plus also I mean again I can pull up to things and then do a thing and then get away from it pretty quickly. Whatever you want, it'll make it look like I'm peeing on the wall before anything else.

Erock: 1:17:24

Whatever you want, you got, sir, that'd be good to have those people on that are posting pictures of your gear, wearing your stuff. Have them as a guest on your podcast. Ask them why they got your stuff.

Bryan: 1:17:39

We're trying that.

Ty: 1:17:42

It's funny how wrangling guests is much harder than anyone anticipated. When we started this thing, we had a very overzealous view of how easily it would be to get guests.

Bryan: 1:18:02

It's very difficult for people to open up and tell their story. You know, the podcast is basically mental health based.

Ty: 1:18:08

And we get down into it Right.

Bryan: 1:18:11

And it's a great conversation to watch Ty and Zach. Zach, I mean Lance and I haven't quite joined in yet. We will eventually, but they get so open and everything and it's. It's tough to be that open and I mean, like you know, ty, I tell my story a little bit, what happened and all that stuff, but these guys open books you asked me to tell my story about three years ago.

Lance: 1:18:36

I would have told you to go kick rocks.

Bryan: 1:18:37

You did you you guys were you guys were asked to do public speaking now because of how motivating you are and you need to share your story if you're going to be on stage to talk to people. So, yeah, I've got these guys out there now doing motivational speaking. Need be because, um, I mean, who, who doesn't want to listen to what they've been through and realize that, if they can get through a day in their life, who can't? Yeah, I mean, if you fucking can't, then something is wrong.

Ty: 1:19:06

I was gonna say man I got my brain is is not what it's supposed to be, apparently because people today are wanting excuses to not live it up to the fullest and to get sympathy and to hold back. I can't do X, y and Z because I've got ADD. I have all 80 of the HDs, All these labels people want to give themselves of the HDs, like I, you know. You know all these labels what people give themselves.

Erock: 1:19:32

and then it's all so that they can literally like one.

Ty: 1:19:37

Everyone feel bad for me, please. I'd like everyone to change their, their pictures to thoughts and prayers for me and my ADD and what it does to me and then like no, like I am a. I the whole victim mentality of everything going on everywhere is insane to me, because I wouldn't mind if I could get through a crowd and people not immediately know what I did for a living. The opening guess is usually the correct one. But yeah, you got the people who like need to put banners on of I'm broken, my brain doesn't work right or whatever it is, and I'm just like put it all down, be a Victor instead. Like I can crush it in spite of yeah.

Bryan: 1:20:22

Maybe get alive out of spite.

Erock: 1:20:23

Yeah Well, we're not made that way anyway. We're made with sound mind and body. So that's the way we're supposed to be. We're not supposed to be scatterbrained and confused. That's a lot of bad programming we've had.

Bryan: 1:20:39

Yeah, the younger generation seems to be very scatterbrained and confused.

Erock: 1:20:43

Yeah, well, that's the enemy's plan.

Bryan: 1:20:49

I could be a parent of a young kid today and let them go to school. Thank God, my son is 35 and my daughter is 26. Because if I had kids in school today, I'd be in jail. I wouldn't tolerate anything these schools are doing today.

Erock: 1:21:03

Well, that's why there's guys like us. When I'm talking with you guys and I talk with a lot of these other guys, we're called to do what we're doing for those people. Other guys, we're called to do what we're doing for those people, that generation that's like in their twenties right now. They uh that that maybe didn't have or don't have good parenting. You know they didn't have good parenting. Maybe it was not like a hard childhood, like most of the guys I grew up with, you know, or like you guys or whatever, like maybe not that way, but it was too soft and that can ruin a child as well.

Ty: 1:21:36

So there's a gaggle slash a big portion of the last generation. That yeah needed because kid's best friend from the get, yep, and your best friend can't tell you know too many times in a row or whatever else, and I'm just like, no, if you do it right, you get to be their, their friend in their 20s. Yeah like when they're grown you get to be their friend if you do a good job.

Erock: 1:22:06

Yeah, I read this book a long time ago, said uh, familiarity breeds contentment, and that that goes. That's just human beings across the board, and that goes from children to their parents, parents to their boss employees to their boss military. This is why you have strict restrictions in the military where uh yeah, you're not supposed to know your leader or whatever.

Ty: 1:22:29

Yeah, you don't go.

Erock: 1:22:30

You're not going to go hang out and drink with your commanding officer, and you shouldn't, because the more you know about him, the more familiar you are with him. You're going to know his weaknesses, you're going to know, oh, he's a real person. And then he tells you to go do something. You're not going to listen. So we, that's just like a human thing, we, we start judging as soon as we think we know something about somebody. And uh, and I, I think a lot of the these parents, you know they did a disservice to their kids.

Erock: 1:22:58

Oh, yeah by um, getting a little too familiar, friendly with them, like, oh, I'm their friend. Uh, like you said, until, like when they're younger, like you can do that when they're adult and they're independent and they've learned all these things. But, um, yeah, it's a balance. I mean that's what we're here for, man to fill in the gap.

Ty: 1:23:16

Teacher warden executioner, you can be friends.

Bryan: 1:23:19

My son and I my son and I didn't get along for years. There were years that we didn't speak, but now, at 35, he's one of my best friends.

Ty: 1:23:28

Yeah, and, and they look so similar.

Bryan: 1:23:30

But you had to be a parent.

Ty: 1:23:32

Related AF.

Bryan: 1:23:34

But you had to be a parent, you had to use discipline and I don't you know. I mean, did he need to get hit in the head with a two-by-four that Tuesday? Probably.

Ty: 1:23:43

He earned it either way.

Erock: 1:23:44

I mean okay, you know.

Bryan: 1:23:47

I know you're kidding yeah but he'll tell you everything that he got and the kids weren't beaten, but everything that was done.

Ty: 1:23:54

he needed to be where he's at today and he's grateful oh, no, yeah, I've been choked and slammed into the wall of conquer. We talked about all that, but at one I didn't not earn everything I received from my father. He I'm not a battered child by any stretch of the imagination deserved it everything, everything that every time hands got put on me, I earned it 100% and you gotta wear what you earn.

Ty: 1:24:21

It's not getting back to the victim shit like oh yeah, my dad hit me and I'm like why you could call it victim blaming or whatever else, but I'm just like if you came in there, all stupid like you might get popped. Like if you came in there, all stupid like you might get popped like if he just came into your room out of nowhere and started whooping on you. Maybe that's like we'll talk about it. We'll report him to somebody, but I had friends like that.

Erock: 1:24:44

You know, their dad was a drunk oh yeah, yeah, mean drinker you know? Yep, I was there when he'd come home and I'm like, oh, time to go, come to time to go.

Ty: 1:24:52

Come to my house. You should come to my house. Yeah, I did, I'll hide you.

Erock: 1:24:56

A lot of kids spend a lot of time in my house because my parents were good. I mean, they were strict, they were really strict and I rebelled when I was 16. I got kicked out of the house when I was 17. And, honestly, that's probably I respected my parents for following through with that a lot.

Bryan: 1:25:15

I didn't like being kicked out.

Erock: 1:25:17

I came home, you know, I came home drunk as shit and and my dad had a little sticky note on the front door your stuff's in the garage. And he wasn't kidding. There was like now this is before. The plastic grocery bags is all you know, the brown paper.

Erock: 1:25:32

There was like 50 of those bags out there, bro. I grabbed like underwear and socks and like you know a couple of things of stuff for school and I went and stayed at a buddy's but yeah, it was. I was like oh shit, they're serious. Okay, you need that sometimes you know I'm stuck on.

Ty: 1:25:51

I didn't realize that grocery store bags was a back in my day thing. I kind of thought those had been around for a long ass time.

Erock: 1:26:00

Are they still using now?

Ty: 1:26:02

I know that you get Eco Brode.

Lance: 1:26:04

Not up here.

Ty: 1:26:06

Yeah. I was going to say a lot of stores want you to do the whole reusable thing. But Instacart is my best friend. I haven't been inside of public in a long time but the upcharge I'm like. I'll pay the extra to not climb in and out of my vehicle four times um right but yeah, the whole um following through thing, for sure, that like okay, you kicked out bye, like yeah it, oh no, I was totally kidding. What does that teach you? That you can fuck around and then you're not going to find out.

Lance: 1:26:37

Like no yeah.

Ty: 1:26:40

All my shit was outside and I had to go do something else. Yeah, my parents let one of us rot in jail a couple nights instead of go get us immediately that night, and he's grateful for it.

Erock: 1:26:57

yeah, now, I mean, if we got into that point then we needed it. Whatever the medicine was, we probably needed it. That's, that's it absolutely. Yeah, yeah, that's uh, you know a? Real issue, too is like a lot of 20 year old males are they're they? They're getting. So many of them take so long to grow up now that they're all like oh yeah, I'm only 22. Like what do you think? I'm not moved out yet? Like bro, what?

Erock: 1:27:25

Like I have friends ask me, like how do we get all of our five kids to move out? I'm like be mean to them.

Ty: 1:27:30

Like make it hard at home At 18, start paying rent or move out. I'm like uh, be mean to them. Like make it hard at home, okay, 18, start paying rent or move out.

Erock: 1:27:34

Oh yeah they paid for they start paying that stuff. When they were 16 like a little bit of time, we'd introduce them, teach them how to use finances. We were not great at it. We're still not great at it, but hey, when you're, uh, your first paycheck from your job when you're 16 is all yours. You earned it. It's a. It's a, you know. Go celebrate. Your next one You're going to pay half your phone bill. Your next one you're going to put. You're going to pay half your phone bill and put a little bit of gas in the car. Your next one you're going to. You know, you just keep adding on and over a few month period they were ended up. So a slow progression and they learned how to pay all their stuff.

Erock: 1:28:15

But you know, a big issue now is, like my youngest daughter, she's married. She's been married for almost a year and a half. She's 22. And uh, one of her, my son-in-law's friends, is 22, 23. He's got a baby and him and his girlfriend were living in his friend, like with his buddy okay, it was like the, the bro, pad or whatever with the little baby. And recently, when they came over, my daughter was telling me like, oh, this happened. We're asking how everybody are. You know how is everybody doing whatever? Because everybody, we know all their friends and we, when we have parties over here, like cookouts, we have 40, 50 people over here and, um, mostly family, and then they all bring friends and stuff. So, uh, we know a lot of their friends.

Erock: 1:29:05

She's like, well, um, natalie did this and she did that, and like she left and they broke up and and and, uh, and it the way it was, sounding like like it's her fault, like, oh, she's being mean, she's been. I'm like, wasn't Hayden like living at this guy's house or whatever? Like what was he doing? Yeah, and she wanted to move out and get their own place. I'm like, well, duh, they have a baby. Like what the like? Well, duh, they have a baby. Like what? The like? Yeah, who wants to live with people when you have a baby? So it's this, it's this whole mentality of it's okay to just hang out here and smoke weed and play video games when you got a kid, bro. No, it is not. And so I was like no, honey, it's not Natalie, it's this culture of these young, 20 something year old males that think it's okay, like they're not taking responsibility.

Bryan: 1:29:57

Yeah. They can, no sense of responsibility. No, and this guy, he has zero accountability.

Erock: 1:30:01

And I'm not trying to talk bad about him, he's he. He actually has a full-time job. He doesn't sit around, smoke weed and play video games. He works full time. And I said, well, he's got enough money then to go get an apartment. Well, they just, you know, they like he likes buying this stuff. I'm like then don't have a baby, like pick one, bro, okay, cause you got to step up, and this is one of the messages you know as we talk on these podcasts. I would like that to change. Like we, you know there's some. We all have good examples in our lives our parents, maybe our uncles, our aunts, our grandparents. These are good values that should never go away, no matter what social issues going on in the world. Some of those core family values are good to go forever, for real, timeless good to go forever, okay, yeah, like for real, timeless.

Lance: 1:30:55

For some reason, a lot of those core family values for a lot of these families have evidently faded out, disintegrated, they're. They're just not there anymore for some reason. I don't grant.

Bryan: 1:31:02

The grandparents passed away. The dad wasn't in the picture. I mean, look, well, I've told these guys here. But I mean, before we lived where we live now, I was the only dad. I bought the basketball court, I bought the hockey rink when I quit smoking 30 some years ago and I got roller blades. They'd make me go roller blade with them and the kids would hold me up, but I was the only dad in this entire neighborhood. Wow, um, and it's just you. I mean, some of the kids turned out all right.

Ty: 1:31:34

I mean, every appointment we ever had to go to for Damon, any of it I was the token dad at everything and they would talk directly to the moms and, like I wasn't even fucking, like they would talk straight to Ash. It was never a us-as-a-team thing ever. It was just like you'll teach him how to do it and I'm just like I'm right, fucking here, stupid, like there was a few times I wanted to get real pissed about it, but I was just that that's not, that's a, that's not a.

Erock: 1:32:03

Uh, that's not an issue like that, a personal thing with you or with guys. It. Well, maybe it is a guy thing they're. They're used to talking to the women, to the moms and you look intimidating. Okay, so you know, like us military guys, like we, you know, even just tough dads. Brian, you know you don't have to be a military vet, but when you're a tough dad, I don't think I've ever heard anyone call Tyler intimidating.

Bryan: 1:32:27

No, I'm just the that, I think, is I mean to all of us.

Lance: 1:32:32

He's not, I mean to all of us, he's not to me.

Erock: 1:32:34

He's not intimidating, he doesn't look intimidating. But think about going to going to a doctor though right there, these guys are not used to, you know, standing like this and delivering some news to you, okay, or girls, right, they're going to talk to the moms. That's just how it is.

Ty: 1:32:55

It was super annoying, and that's what his story, that anecdote, made me think of was just how I'm like. Am I fucking here?

Erock: 1:33:04

I actually felt like that before too, when our kids were little and I went to a meeting with a nutritionist or something like that for one of our kids and the lady was like my wife and I are really close, we're sitting here like this, listening and same thing. And she was telling her something about the microwave and I remember it stuck in my head because I was so angry she would never like look at me and tell me something. Uh, and I was like what the hell is she talking about this fucking microwave? I know how the microwave fucking works. Like I was so pissed we walked out of there. I went off about this what she said about this microwave for like 10 fucking minutes. My wife is like calm down. I'm like no, the lady doesn't even. What does she think? I don't know how to use this fucking thing.

Ty: 1:33:52

Oh, no, yeah, All the trends, man, where the dad don't know the kids' friends' names or their teachers' names or any of that stuff. I'm just like I was like no, I can contact all these people. I have them half the time alone. I sure hope I'm doing. I got information, I got to know who to find Freaking step information.

Erock: 1:34:13

But I gotta know who to find, freaking, step, step. So how did you guys, uh, how did you find vfa like getting? How did you get where you, under you know, found uh, veterans for airsoft and all that?

Bryan: 1:34:26

I think fred found where did he find us?

Lance: 1:34:29

I think he reached out to you guys.

Bryan: 1:34:30

I think he found the sfh page and I think we went back and forth a little bit and he told us about the event in may, um, and said, hey, do you guys want to be here, nice, and then you know, we again, once we we'll say partner with somebody, I call it we become family with somebody instantly. I mean, you'll find the people we deal with, we're stuck with, we just can't get rid of what we want to do. And you know like it's funny, cause this is the first event that I will not be at. Usually I fly down, I'm at the event, but I got a trip of a lifetime I'll be in Alaska and these guys are going to be in Jacksonville doing their thing.

Erock: 1:35:06

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Bryan: 1:35:09

It's a trip of a lifetime bucket list, baby nice, hey, don't forget.

Lance: 1:35:14

My lifetime's a little closer to the the top half, though, than yours hey, I am not saying I'm not faulting you for doing it or anything like that.

Bryan: 1:35:22

So that's how we hooked up with him and then he's just been sharing a ton of stuff like I've been seeing, I guess, the old six flags in new orleans. They want to try to get an event, but it's gator infested have have you seen all the posts for that?

Ty: 1:35:34

Fuck, yeah, yep.

Lance: 1:35:35

We got people on Florida that can take care of that.

Ty: 1:35:37

Yeah, yeah, come on.

Erock: 1:35:38

Hey, just let those gators in there, bro.

Ty: 1:35:40

Let them play airsoft there, okay Send eight Florida men in there and clean them out in five minutes. I would definitely go watch that.

Bryan: 1:35:48

I would not, I will go watch that, that's what I was going to say.

Ty: 1:35:51

Get all the news. People involved Get a whole thing. The Tiger King guy, let him out of jail, let him go clean up the gators, empty out the pedophile wing and let them try, there you go. We're on to something. Listen up, New Orleans.

Lance: 1:36:12

We got a plan here's what I'm thinking.

Ty: 1:36:16

The gators will then be full and then the trained professionals can go in there and, you know, tape the mouth shut and get them on out there. Because they're going to be tired because all that eating.

Lance: 1:36:27

This is perfect, I'm so excited.

Ty: 1:36:30

Let's go.

Bryan: 1:36:31

That's how we got hooked up, I mean with SFH, and Found us. Yeah, I think he found us. Could have been something to do with even a shirt he was looking for. I get so many emails but I remember, oh, I'm sure you know. I remember he just came in and then he mentioned the event and then he said something about it being where the what's the name of the ship in Jacksonville he told me about it too.

Erock: 1:36:57

He was a.

Lance: 1:36:57

USS something, thank you thank you, navy man how do you know this? He's got inside information, okay but Ty grew up in Jacksonville it's the enterprise Ty grew up in.

Bryan: 1:37:12

Jacksonville. It's the enterprise Ty grew up in Jacksonville and then me being the protective guy here says, well, okay, if the event is on a ship, can Ty get around the ship, but it's been retrofitted and all that. So I mean that's kind of.

Lance: 1:37:28

Can Ty get on a cruise? Yes, can you walk?

Erock: 1:37:33

from here, oh God dude. Can you just park and walk? He's seen the movies.

Ty: 1:37:39

He's seen, you have to step over the thing to get through the doorway of a Navy vessel. He was trying to care. He's using his heart.

Bryan: 1:37:48

Gotta ask permission, I can stop all this.

Ty: 1:37:52

No, I'm on team, thanks bro. I'm not. No, I'm on team, thanks bro. I'm not talking shit, I'm on team, thanks bro.

Lance: 1:37:58

You see how he threatens us every time we try to mess with him. I'm not threatening anybody.

Erock: 1:38:04

I can just pull the plug on this shit, okay.

Ty: 1:38:06

I'll stop being your friend so fast. I'm leaving right now.

Bryan: 1:38:08

I can just go to bed Past my bedtime. I'm the old guy.

Lance: 1:38:15

I'm right now. I can just go to bed past my bedtime. I'm the old guy I'm saying I gotta be up at six two, you got 20 minutes.

Erock: 1:38:19

I don't have a time limit on these, or I mean a time. I don't know what you call it yeah, time for time frame yeah, time frame, there you go, thank you no, yeah, we just wing it.

Ty: 1:38:29

Wing it till everyone's staring at each other, right?

Erock: 1:38:31

yeah, that's pretty much what it is. I ask questions, I figure whatever, and then we'll just move on. But yeah, it's a. Yeah, that's cool man. So what do you guys got you got a lot of things planned this this year. If you want to give a shout out and your events where, where can people meet you? Can people meet you if they're?

Erock: 1:38:53

in the area I've I actually had a lot of people that uh live in florida um that travel around florida to play uh airsoft and paintball and everything. So, uh, what events are you guys going to throughout the year and where can they find them?

Lance: 1:39:04

so yeah, um, as far as events throughout the year, it just depends on who um reaches out to us are.

Ty: 1:39:11

we don't have many set ones throughout the year yet, gotcha.

Lance: 1:39:14

Correct, but we can be reached at wearesfhcom or you can send it to info at wearesfh and let us know what your event is. Our goal when we go to these events is it needs to be an organization that is giving someone a hand up, because 50% of our net, of what we make at that event is going to go to that organization. So did I miss anything there, bri?

Bryan: 1:39:48

No and again no. Two events are the same. I mean, last year, lance, with a few friends, put on a parking lot party. We had an all day event, and that's cool. So we have this event. I think you guys are doing the rock to stop suicide this year, right? Yes, that's in August I think Okay, and I think there's one more.

Ty: 1:40:10

We usually have a September 11th event, but yeah, we don't have set big ones throughout the year yet, but eventually we we likely will.

Bryan: 1:40:17

Yeah, people reach out. I mean, we call it the traveling roadshow. We try to get wherever we can.

Lance: 1:40:23

Our goal eventually would be nice to have like one event quarterly. That's just an SFH event, but but we're not there yet, oh yeah, give us a few more years.

Ty: 1:40:38

Yeah, we're getting there. Um, yeah, we got.

Erock: 1:40:40

May is pretty bogged down and then, yeah, november okay, but um, we do?

Bryan: 1:40:45

we do put out a newsletter, not as often as we should, but if we do have anything coming up, the events will be listed there as well, If not through social media. I mean, if you follow the we Are SFH page Instagram, I believe we have a TikTok now.

Ty: 1:41:02

Yeah, so the TikTok is Brain Spanking News. So don't y'all judge me yet, because I'm your TikTok advisor, while Lance is the other social media advisor. But yeah, we Are. Sfh is where you'll find us on on Instagram, facebook and Tik TOK, um, and then we are. Sfhcom is the website where you'll find the store Um, and then the newsletter is also available on said website and whenever it gets made, we post it on social medias anyway. So if you're following one of them, you'll see what we're up to as often as we can tell you about it.

Bryan: 1:41:36

We will ask that, if you like what you see, share our Facebook page. I know we're just a little bit shy of 5,000 followers in three years, which we find to be great, but we want to hit that mark. We were hoping to hit 5,000 before May.

Lance: 1:41:50

Yeah that's the goal Invite your friends. We were hoping to hit 5,000 before May.

Bryan: 1:41:54

Yeah, that's the goal. We have a few more days. Invite your friends, tell them to check out the page. A lot of great content, co-branding.

Lance: 1:42:01

I'd love to hit co-branding before we sign off or anything like that. Co-branding is basically, if you have anyone or there's anyone out there that's a company that likes our mission, likes what we do and would like to come up with a design that's specified to your organization but has SFH in it as a co-brand, you can reach out to us as well. I believe there's a link to talk about co-branding on the SFH website, um, but if not, if you would like to, you can also reach out to us at info at we are sfhcom also random ones stay on the page too.

Ty: 1:42:41

There's a few that you'll see when you go into the shop okay, tyler, you want to do a plug on uh, you guys's podcast, so everybody knows where to look for it at yes, um, so it's currently posted everywhere where you uh digest podcasts spotify and youtube and everything, um, but it is uh, sfh presents the one in the third podcast, because you know he's an entire gentleman and I am not um. But we get into, we, we go, we as raw as we can, um, and and as open as we can we get into mental health and just the dark, dark and the work done and how far we've gotten from where we started and trying to one ultimately make sure people know that they're not alone and someone understands what they're going through, but hopefully giving someone the courage to ask for help or, oh my gosh, maybe I could try that and, uh, yeah, if, if we reach one person where, uh, we we've won, yeah for sure.

Bryan: 1:43:44

And we know that you. We know that you have, because we've seen some people reach out to you through messenger and through texts just to say, hey, you know it was bad and I happened to find this um, I had a guy that I know up here reached out to me and a friend of his had some disease and was in the basement and pretty much close to ending it all and somehow before that found the podcast and said well, if these gentlemen can go another day, I can go another day, I'll figure it out. And you just, I mean one person at a time, man, that's it, I'm gonna say I got a girlfriend out of it too.

Ty: 1:44:17

There you go. I would say she she reached out to because she felt seen and heard on the podcast. She was like, oh my god, I've never heard it put like that and it was like one of y'all was literally just saying what I was thinking and that blossomed into the relationship I'm currently in.

Erock: 1:44:33

That's cool, man, cause I listened to the. Uh, like I said, I listened to the first episode today while I was driving around and, um, and you were talking about something like that, you're like, okay, I feel alone sometimes because you know, uh, you are uh here and there, and then it's um, so yeah, okay, good man, man, that's good to hear hell yeah, so yeah, if it goes the distance, we're gonna.

Ty: 1:44:57

We're gonna have some fun with the sfh presents being part of the whole thing of course I mean for real dude yeah, that's awesome. Already, zach is already like well, shit, we could hang up the mic, the headphones and we're done, we won. There you go. We're going to keep going as long as Spotify and all of them will. Let us keep posting.

Erock: 1:45:24

Just keep posting, bro, We'll get over this censored crap Somewhere we'll find. I started posting on Rumble back in 2020 when all the stupid shit was happening and censor stuff was going on with YouTube and all that. So I lost my original Facebook page because I was posted about the vaccine and masks and they were like so I can't even get into that one anymore. You better stop it.

Bryan: 1:45:44

People will hear you, don't be right. How dare you?

Ty: 1:45:48

How dare you be correct in our face like that?

Erock: 1:45:50

You're spreading correct information.

Bryan: 1:45:53

You're spreading the truth. Damn you, what? The facts, the facts, the facts.

Lance: 1:45:58

I agree.

Erock: 1:45:59

Well, I appreciate you guys. Man, it's been awesome talking with you.

Lance: 1:46:03

Great to meet you all. I appreciate you having us on you as well.

Bryan: 1:46:05

Thanks for having us man.

Erock: 1:46:05

I'd love to do something in the future. Yeah. You know, when you guys have some more events and uh, I, you know, I I usually have people on later, so hey there. So yeah, that's cool. I've actually had my granddaughter bust in here before she's five and she'll climb right. She's been in a couple of podcasts. She'll climb right up on this counter, right here on this desk, and like look in the camera and she can't hear it because I've got these on. So she's like yeah like they'll wave to her.

Ty: 1:46:35

Oh yeah I just leave it in the podcast, I don't cut it that's what makes it real man? Yeah, well, damon damon pops in on the end of one of the episodes. My son, uh, 10 year old, he's, uh, he's on the spectrum. He came in, uh, my tiktoks are always I'm tying. Welcome to my nub talk instead of Ted talk. He gets that from his echolalia. He came hauling in one time and was just like I'm Damon and welcome to my nub talk.

Erock: 1:47:00

I was just like, oh my god, that's awesome. What that needs to be your intro bro.

Ty: 1:47:05

I was like man. That's the one so cool. Thank you so much for having us. This was awesome.

Erock: 1:47:11

Yeah, man, I appreciate you guys Appreciate what you're doing. Everybody watching, listening. Go check these guys out. Sfhcom.

Ty: 1:47:22

We are.

Erock: 1:47:23

SFHcom. We are SFHcom and SFH on Facebook. If you search that'll come up. I'll have all these links in the in the description of everything, and I'm actually going to help post this thing about your goal for the road to 5,000 on Facebook.

Lance: 1:47:40

Yeah.

Erock: 1:47:40

That'd be wonderful. For sure, All right guys Appreciate you. You guys have a good night.

Bryan: 1:47:45

You too, man, take care, nice meeting you, you too Bye-bye, bye-bye, outro Music.