UnPro Opinions Reunion: 2026 NFL Mock Draft

In honor of the NFL Draft, Ryan, Jared, Garrett, and Alex met up to make their annual mock drafts. They also dive deep into which stars could be traded on draft night, and what the dream pick is for their team.

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:10

All right. Welcoming everyone to the at this point just annual once-a-year mock draft pod with the Unpro Boys. Ryan's here, Garrett's here, Wood's here, Jared's here. Fellas, how are we doing? We're almost less than a week away from the draft. We're finally meeting up to talk about this nonsense. So it's gonna be a great night. I feel like we're gonna have a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_04 0:32

Oh dude, I'm stoked. I've I told, we're we're talking about it offline. I've done probably 500 mock drafts getting preference. That is okay.

SPEAKER_05 0:41

That's okay.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Every single even good. Even better. And I've done zero, but I'm just as ready.

SPEAKER_05 0:47

I've also done zero. Jared, have you also done zero? I did like one just because I had no clue who the hell the Chargers needed. Interior offensive linemen, I feel like, is where they're gonna go. Alright, so yeah. All right, so we're just gonna do the entire first round. No trades. We each have a team. We're just going in order because there's 28. There's 28. 32 picks. We each have eight picks. So it's gonna be great. No need to find South into the sun. There's only 28 teams now, guys. Thank God. I'm fine with that. Everyone knows. So we're gonna start where you know the draft starts. We're gonna start the number one overall pick. Garrett has the order. I'm the one keeping track of these picks. So, Garrett, you tell us who's first.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

Yeah, this one's been set in stone for months. It's gonna be Trinidad Champ. No, it's gonna be Fernando Mendoza. Fernando Mendoza. I don't think we need to talk much about that. We need to talk more about if we think he's gonna be good or not. Um I think maybe Kirk Cousins ceiling fits him with his with his the person he's gonna be backing up there for the first four weeks before he starts. Um, I don't think he's gonna be superstar.

SPEAKER_05 1:57

I I tend to agree. Um, here's the thing. If this draft is interesting because he's the only like sure fire first-round quarterback I think is going, unless like the one of talent-wise, like if some one of us picks another quarterback because the team is you know stupid or whatever. But like maybe this and the Raiders need a lot. But my only saying this because the Raiders need a lot. Could they have considered trading out of this pick and getting more? Because I don't think they're just a quarterback away, and Fernando Mendoza to me is also not that quarterback. So I I would consider trading down.

SPEAKER_01 2:30

But well, the other thing about that too, and I think Kirk Cousins could be a good starter for them this year, and they just assigned what $200 million worth of free agents. So if you add another first round pick and you still stay in the top 10 or something, I think that'd be a good decision franchise wise, but they're not they're not doing that.

SPEAKER_05 2:47

Like if Cleveland says we've got two firsts this year, you can have our first next year as well, and maybe a second, you know, in a few years from now, I think the Raiders should listen to that. Take advantage of a bad I know they won't, but like take advantage of a bad organization is just my that's my way of thinking for this draft. The Browns being the bad organization. At at yeah, correct. Nice. But the Browns have three Pro Bowl quarterbacks.

SPEAKER_04 3:11

Oh, right. Yeah, that's true. Ryan, I think on on paper, there is a world where it makes sense to not draft Fernando Mendoza. I think with all of the build-up and all of the stuff that comes with the first overall pick, the Raiders franchise, fans, team, like the organization itself, I feel like you risk crumbling, and Mark Davis is just not gonna, he's already bankrupt.

SPEAKER_05 3:38

He can't he can't not take a quarterback one overall now. Yeah, I'm I mean tend to agree. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate. Jared is a good one.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

We can do the oh, go ahead. I was gonna say we can do the pardon my take thing. People are talking about the Browns trading up to one. People are talking about it.

SPEAKER_04 3:53

People Browns will trade up to one.

SPEAKER_00 4:03

It's like uh like are we even sure that he would start week one? Like, what's what's that process look like?

SPEAKER_05 4:10

Like No, I don't think he I don't think he should. I think it'll be Kirk.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

Well then is it worth your number one? I had an argument with a Red fan about this. He's my coworker, and he was talking to me and he's like, Well, you keep him because he's a generational talent that if you don't and I'm like I you know, Kurt Signadi did wonders with a team full of people that honestly had no business winning a national championship. Will we see another Indiana? Probably not. So are we gonna sit here and crown him because he made three good plays? Or, like, I mean, the body of work, did he really put in a body of work to be a number one overall pick? I really don't think he did.

SPEAKER_04 4:55

No, and I didn't know Dan Orlovsky was a guest on the pod today. If he wasn't coming out this year, he would not be the number one pick.

SPEAKER_05 5:03

I agree with that. He he's not a top in the last I don't want to pick a number out of my since the Bryce Young CJ draft, where does he rank among quarterbacks you'd put on the board if they were all available? Sixth?

SPEAKER_00 5:16

I was gonna say we could play that game, would you really?

SPEAKER_05 5:18

Like if you like if you for I know three of us are commanders fans, but if you'd go just prospect Caleb, Jaden, Drake, CJ All Above. Yeah, all above him. CJ, Bo like maybe he's around where Bo Nicks would be.

SPEAKER_04 5:36

Yeah, I'd put him in the Bo Nicks category. We got so here, I'll listen.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

I'd even harsher. I put him in JJ McCarthy territory.

SPEAKER_04 5:44

2023 because 2023, Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Anthony Richardson.

SPEAKER_05 5:48

Right, Richardson. He's he's above Richardson.

SPEAKER_04 5:50

Williams, Drake, Penix, McCarthy, Nicks. He's above Penix. I think he's above Penix. I think he's a better prospect than Penix is.

SPEAKER_05 6:01

I think he's above. I think I think he has the raw, like, not even like because I think he'll be able to just sit in the pocket and fire. And he's tall and he's a big guy. Like, I feel like that could, you know, he's gonna need a great offensive line, and the Raiders don't have that right now. It's that was my whole point. But I think he could be a fine starter in this league. Now he's got a lot of things. He's got a good arm. Now, to Jared's point, do you want to draft that number one overall? Probably not. But this is the draft he's been dealt, and he's gonna be a Raider. I think we took, I think we spent too much time on Mendoza.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

So no, I mean I think I don't think we spent too much time. I think that's fair. I think a lot of other people are just not spending enough time because we've chalked it so easily. And the problem is is that with the draft, like you can't just chalk it and say and accept it and be like, Yep, yep, that's the best player in this draft. Like, because if you really fully truly believe it, you your 101 needs to be the best player in the draft. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:55

It drives me crazy when I see lists of like prospects overall, and in the first paragraph, they're like, regardless of position importance, and then they put Mendoza first. He's not even close to the best player. I wouldn't put him that high. Yeah, if he was not a quarterback, he would not be drafted. Kyron Jones.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

Ninth, tenth, maybe best player in the draft.

SPEAKER_05 7:16

Yeah, probably 15th. I yeah, there's there's a lot of great defensive talent in this draft. Alright, who's got the Garrett? Who has the second pick? Uh I don't have the list up. Y'all should know who has the Jets. Oh, I think I do. Okay, so it goes so now we know Jared and Jared.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Okay, great.

SPEAKER_05 7:33

Jared, who are the Jets taking at number two?

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Um you know, the last week or so people have been chalking David Bailey here. I've heard that. I don't think that's Aaron Glen and his sort of like strategy as a defensive guy. I think the Jets have had this sort of knack of taking people that are the sort of upside hybrid guys. I think back to the Jamal Adams draft, when they drafted him, they thought he could be a guy that switches between being an in-the-box safety and then being, you know, kind of all over the place. So I'm I'm gonna have them taking Arvell Reese. Um, and I don't I don't like Arvell Reese either. I actually don't really like him as a player. Um, but mainly because I think he's a great college athlete, and I think he's not gonna translate well to the pros. But that's just me. That's me personally.

SPEAKER_05 8:35

I think he's got a great ability. He can rush and he can play a little bit of linebacker, but he's gonna be used as an edge rusher. And I think the Jets, you know, you gotta go impact there, get to the if you don't have a quarterback, try and get to the quarterback. Um, I think that is a fair pick there. Could have gone several Ohio State guys, but I think Reese is probably. I know I've like you, Jared, I've heard the David Bailey talk. I think that would be a slight reach because he's not a three-down defensive end, and I'm sure we'll talk about it with whoever takes him. So I think Reese is the safest play here. Um, but you know, they could go a lot of different directions here. I actually I actually think David Bailey is the safe play.

SPEAKER_04 9:14

Um I I think I do. I mean, I I agree that it's a it would be a reach at two. I think you'd want to get David Bailey somewhere between five and eight in this draft. But, you know, to I'm gonna use the same point that Jared made. The Jets like drafting these guys with high ceilings that can do a lot of different things. It hasn't been great for them. I think the Jets may be at a spot right now where they are gonna take the quote unquote sure thing with college production and a guy knowing who he is and what he does, and then just plug and play. Get a guy and and hit the quarterback. You know, I I agree that Aaron Glenn likes the scheme of the you know, edge rusher linebacker and coverage hybrid. Um, but I think the Jets might be at a spot, especially that front office and coaching staff, they might just need a guy to go get the quarterback, and that's their best bet in David Bailey, I think. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 10:09

So we have Reese on the mock. Uh would you have the Cardinals pick a three? Indeed.

SPEAKER_04 10:15

So I know we're not doing trades. Uh I do think that this is a spot in the in the actual draft that now you're looking at a trade. I think the Cardinals probably want to trade out of this spot. Um, I don't think they would if uh necessarily if Reese fell to three. I think the Cardinals would think really hard about it, but that's the trade chip that I see if it happens. Reese falls, I think you look at the Cowboys, I think you look at the Chiefs, I think you look at the Browns. These teams with two picks in the first round, I think you might go get Arvell Reese if he goes to three. But we're not trading. The Cardinals need a lot of big boys. They need a quarterback too. Obviously, this is not the spot, maybe not the draft to do it. Um, I think it's a little bit high to take a tackle at three, but the Cardinals need it more than anybody else in the league. And when you have a guy who's as sure of a bet as Francis Mauga, I think it's Mao Goa. At three, you gotta do it. So I think the Cardinals take the right tackle out of Miami. He's a day one starter. He instantly makes their line better. I think he makes their running back room better. Um because uh Mauga is very good against the run, or not against the run, but in the run game. Um I think you look to trade, but I think I think tackle is the pick here.

SPEAKER_05 11:40

Uh yeah, Cardinals team that need everything, and I understand you want a franchise left tackle, but you don't have a quarterback, so but you gotta put good I I understand. You gotta put it on the phone. But like I don't know. My thing is if yeah, but like if you know you're gonna if you know there's not great quarterbacks in the draft, I would have gone best player available, and I don't think Maui Goa there at three is the best player available. Now I could see them doing it. They feel like, you know what, we just want to get this offensive line short up. We don't care, you know. We want to build that that's I would not kill him for doing that, but just you know, there's a lot of you're throwing me off here because I don't know who I'm gonna pick now. But you know, I I don't know about that one. But I could I could see it happening, but I that's not the pick I'd make. Jacoby Brissett wants to be paid like a starter, Ryan. What are you talking about? He's not he was not named the starter either.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

But he wants to be paid like it.

SPEAKER_05 12:34

Yeah. They're a disaster.

SPEAKER_00 12:37

His name is CeC Mawanoa, by the way. CC? Yeah, that's his nickname. Oh, his nickname, okay. Oh so if you Maui Noah. If you hear them call him CC on the night of the night.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

Mawinoa, okay. Maui Noah.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

There you go.

unknown 12:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

When I hear CeC, I just think new girl. That's that's the only thing that comes to mind. So I think so. You don't think of the pizza? CC's pizza? We named three CCs right there. Good job, boys.

SPEAKER_05 13:02

That's good podcasting. That is champions. That's championship level podcasting. Quick uh the Mount Rushmore CCs. I'm just kidding, we're not doing that. I can't name a fourth.

unknown 13:12

No.

SPEAKER_05 13:13

Um all right. So the Titans are picking at four. And like I said, Wood threw me a curve by not going defensive player there. The biggest need on that team is still running back. Oh, he's gonna do it. So Cam Ward gets his backfield mate to make some explosive plays. I think they're taking love at four. I think that's who they want to take. And like, I know you guys disagree with me. I think we should, if love is available at four, I think the commanders should look at look at it. Because just to have this an unbelievably fast backfield with Jaden and Jeremiah Love, but I don't think he'll be available because I think the Titans, even if the bald for board falls this way, I think they will want to get Cam Ward's running mate and make his life a whole lot easier when he can just run the ball between the tackles and Cam Ward doesn't have to do everything. So I think Jeremiah Love is a good fit in Tennessee. I think they could be sneaky fun. I'll say that. That makes them sneaky fun. Not good, not playoff contender, sneaky fun watch, like, oh, maybe the fourth game is the Titans, you know, whoever, because you want to see that, you know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

I I think they could be sneaky fun. We're gonna talk about this when we get to the commander's pick, but um, I don't I don't think anybody that drafts Jeremiah Love is really gonna get that much better. He's a great player and he's gonna be a great player, but B. John Robinson's been the best running back in the league for the past three years, and the Falcons haven't made the playoffs.

SPEAKER_05 14:44

So I agree. Like he's gonna, you know, a lot of next year is he one-one in fantasy? Who knows? Probably. So like just think like not this year, Jared, next year. Yeah, yeah.

unknown 15:00

B.

SPEAKER_05 15:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:05

So I'm just I think the the if we're going the the Falcons route, the difference that the Titans are hoping, and I'm not saying that this is true, but what they're hoping is that Jeremiah Love is gonna unlock Cam Ward. There's not a whole lot to unlock with Michael Penix and Kirk Cousins in Atlanta. So I think that the Jeremiah Love with Cam Ward makes a bigger difference than it will in Atlanta.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

Yeah, but Robert Sala's not gonna fix the whole defense just through coaching. That defense is so bad.

SPEAKER_05 15:36

I mean, the Niners defense la like the Niners defense last year was so injured, and he made it better than the talent that played at the end of the year was. So if he's got like he's got Jeffrey Simmons still there, like that's because he's a defensive coordinator.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Uh I'm I'm on fire mode tonight. I'm like that he's a defensive coordinator impersonating a head coach.

SPEAKER_05 16:00

Okay, someone I know in Blacksburg.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

Yeah, well, at least the guy in Blacksburg owns up to it and goes back and and and reverts back, whereas Robert Salah continues to convince himself he's otherwise. Because I'm gonna tell you right now, Jeremia Love had a Notre Dame offensive line blocking for him. Okay. Uh the Tennessee Titans offensive line. Quick, name me a starter.

SPEAKER_05 16:24

Peter Skaronsky.

SPEAKER_00 16:25

Oh, Adam Boy. The average NFL fan is not gonna be.

SPEAKER_05 16:29

Not getting any out of me, Jared. Lloyd Cush is Cushionberry still there?

SPEAKER_00 16:33

No, probably not.

SPEAKER_05 16:34

Wasn't he a free agent this year?

SPEAKER_00 16:35

Oh crap.

SPEAKER_05 16:36

Okay, I don't know what he was. I tried boys. Taylor Decker. Oh, wait, no. I mean Taylor Lewan.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

Oh, listen, Taylor Decker. Ah, God.

SPEAKER_05 16:44

Anyway, Taylor something.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

All right, so anyway, the point Josh Norman. The point is that you're uh the if you think that he's gonna do the exact same, like Ashton Genty's a good example, right? Ashton Genty last year, people thought would unlock the Raiders' offense because he would be able to open up other things in their offense, and then he played like crap for most of the year until maybe they started figuring some stuff out, but really not really. So like I hate running backs in the draft, and I think whatever team ends up taking him will end up regretting it if there is that high of a pick spent on him. Like I I just think he is a 20th pick worth pick, but a top five talent. So that's I see your point. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:44

Oh, which definitely means the Titans are gonna take him because they're a bad organization.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

1000%.

SPEAKER_04 17:48

Yeah, I think I think after one, this is the next sure pick of the draft. I think the Titans are absolutely taking Jeremiah Love.

SPEAKER_05 17:55

Yeah. Garrett, the Giants are picking fifth.

SPEAKER_01 17:59

Yeah, the first of two Giants top one picks because yeah, 30 minutes before we recorded this, they just traded for the 10th pick.

SPEAKER_05 18:07

Um waiting. Look at us waiting until the draft is basically finalized. There we go. You silly mock drafters.

SPEAKER_01 18:15

Um, I originally wanted Mawagoa at this pick as well, and I think the Giants do as well because their offensive line, uh, they need to keep Jackson Dart upright, and they could kick him inside to guard if needed to, uh, just like the commanders did back in the day with Brandon Cherry. But with who's on the board, I think it would be hard pressed for the Giants to pass on Sonny Styles right here. They need a linebacker. They were starting uh Demetrius Flanagan fouls last year at linebacker. Uh, if you all could know who that is, because I didn't. Um, and he is he had the best relative athletic score of any linebacker that's ever done the combine, I believe. Um, so I think he's gonna be a really, really good player. I actually would love if the commanders could get him at seven, but if this is how the board falls, I think he's going to to New York. So that's a good pick for them.

SPEAKER_04 19:02

I I think Styles is the most NFL ready prospect in the entire draft. Uh he's he knows exactly who he is. He's a phenomenal linebacker. He's great in coverage, he's great at run stopping, he's good at everything you need a linebacker to do. Um, and I think he's gonna be really good for a long time. Very disciplined with his eyes.

SPEAKER_05 19:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:21

We've seen obviously from the commanders camp, we've seen some things come out from Adam Peters. You know, he's likened him to Fred Warner, and I I think that's I think that's exactly correct. He's gonna be a phenomenal pick, and I would love it if he was there at seven.

SPEAKER_06 19:35

Love it.

SPEAKER_05 19:36

Love it. Jerry the Browns are picking sixth.

SPEAKER_02 19:44

Jerry doesn't like how this board fell.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

It's just because David Bailey sliding. David Bailey is sliding like no other in this mock.

SPEAKER_04 19:53

Did anybody go to his birthday? That's a great question. It is the Browns pick.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

It is a great question. But I mean, on one hand, I can get maybe Miles Garrett air apparent. On the other hand, I can get a kid from Ohio, well, at least I played in Ohio, that fills a good area of need for the Browns. And on the other hand, we're the Cleveland Browns. I love those videos. That when we're the Cleveland Browns, when everybody zigs, don't ask what the hell's going on. It's that wherever Solomia is tonight, I make this pick in her honor and select Carnell Tate, that's wide receiver, and that's perfect. There it is, which is the worst option that they could take in that spot, in my opinion. I don't think he's a good football player. I don't think that he will work in the NFL. I think he's another one of those wide receivers that just you think will work out, and you look at college production and you go, oh, well, he had to play with Jeremiah Smith, and nobody gives a shit. Because at the end of the day, you're not going to have a guy play at the NFL and then make excuses for who he's playing behind. You gotta make a play. So Carnell Tate's not good enough on his own. He's good because he has other talent around him. Put that on.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Okay, there's one there's one guarantee I can make is that he he won't be good if he's on the Cleveland Browns, just because that's means. We should know that.

SPEAKER_05 21:38

That is on the board, yes. I think he's very talented, and I think Jeremiah Smith being there as teammate did hinder him a little bit. But you know, we'll we'll see it, we'll let it play out. I don't want to have a Carnell Tate, you know, debate here. So it's fine. I I would I think he's the number one receiver on my board, so I'll just leave it there. Wood. What are what are we going to take this is going to be a long discussion, boys. So Wood, you have the honor of making the commander's pick at seven. This is not a pick I don't I thought we were going to be making. I don't think any of us thought we'd be picking at seventh entering 2025. So this is a big deal going into year three of Jaden, the whole contract situation looming. Like, what is he going to get paid? Can we take the leap? It starts here.

SPEAKER_04 22:24

Yep. I think this is a pick where for us it's all about the way the board falls. You know, if you're in the top six here, you you got a good look this year of what I mean, Mendoza's obviously going one, and then you got five guys, five teams in front of you if you're the Browns. You kind of have a good shot at who you're gonna get. You're gonna get your top guy. The commanders, right now, especially given, and we're not doing later rounds, but we only have one pick in the third and one pick in the fifth. You gotta hit on the most important positions in those three picks. I'll be honest, did not expect David Bailey to be here.

SPEAKER_03 23:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 23:06

And that throws things for a little bit of a loop here. Let's go. I would like, and I think teams are calling the commanders if the board falls this way, by the way. The Chiefs are calling. I think I think if the board falls this way, somebody's calling up and they're picking David Bailey at seven. I thought we were gonna be looking at Sonny Stiles or Carnell Tate here.

unknown 23:28

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 23:28

And if that were the case, I was taking Sonny Styles. But now we're looking at David Bailey and Caleb Downs. Oh right, yeah. I hate it. I hate this pick because we just spent $100 million on the edge rusher from LA. He's good. He's not great.

SPEAKER_05 23:50

That's what I said.

SPEAKER_04 23:51

He's good, not great. He's got the potential to be great.

SPEAKER_05 23:54

That's what I said.

SPEAKER_04 23:56

One good year. I was going I have written down Caleb Downs. But the way this board fell. What do you want me to write? We gotta get after the quarterback, baby. Okay. We're taking David Bailey. I love it. Edge out of Texas Tech. I love it. I think that putting him on the other side, we now have a top five defensive line. We're gonna get after the quarterback. We I I I think he's gonna be incredible. Time. Do not have a top five defensive line there.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

But that's fine. The last time we had a top five defensive line, I think we won like four games.

SPEAKER_05 24:38

Timeout! Four first round picks, right? Four first round picks on the defensive line, like ten sacks.

SPEAKER_04 24:45

I think we I think we have to take edge rusher. I think what it boils down to for me is the positional value of edge versus safety in today's NFL. You just have to take David Bailey. I think I have no problem taking Caleb Downs or Sonny Styles if they're here at seven. But I think if David Bailey falls to you, you gotta you gotta do it. You gotta get after the quarterback.

SPEAKER_05 25:07

Yep. Um well then if they're sitting there, let's say David Bailey's still on the board. And we did just pay $25 million a year for a new eye dressure. And the Chiefs call and say, yo, you can have nine and a fourth. I think we might. You wouldn't do it? Nine and a third. Nine and a third or nine and you're fourth this year and next year. Would that get it done so they can have Bailey? Would you rather that than Bailey?

SPEAKER_04 25:38

I think so because because then you lock up either Reuben Bain or Calen Downs at nine. And I that's great. We I'd love Reuben Bain, just don't give him a car. He didn't go to Georgia. I mean, it's you know, it's a one and done at Miami.

SPEAKER_05 25:54

Yeah. Um I I again, I think if Bailey is available, the commanders are loving that. Because they could be like, all right, we're either gonna get David Bailey or we're gonna get another pick on a day two pick that we didn't think we'd have. Yep. So I think that's that'd be a great spot for them. I think that might be the only player on the board if it falls, like aside from like Reese and Styles, they're like, alright, you know, if we only have to move down a couple picks, you know, and get another day two pick to boot, that might be worth it considering our lack of draft capital. But I think I said I wanted Jeremiah Love just because I like the idea of like just the fastest backfield in the NFL, like who's stopping that? But the defense was so bad last year, you might want to go best defensive player available. Garrett, I'm probably am I right on that one?

SPEAKER_01 26:44

Yes, I think we need to go defense with this pick. Um I like David Bailey, I think he's a very good pass rusher. If the board falls this way, I'm taking Caleb Downs. Um, if I am in the front office, Caleb Downs would. You said earlier you thought Sonny Styles was the most NFL ready player in this draft. I think that's actually Caleb Downs. Everything I read about him is that he's a quarterback on the field. He he he could be the green dot guy day one. Um, and he's really what we need in the secondary rather than, oh, I hope Quan Martin can take a leap this year. Um that's I think that completely reshapes our secondary and is a position that we have not had really locked down since Sean Taylor passed away 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_04 27:27

Um I also I don't think I don't think the this this is the way the board is gonna fall. I don't either. And I think that we are going to take either Caleb Downs or Sonny Styles at seven, and uh either one of them is gonna be a home run. Those are my two yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:43

If Styles at seven, I'm doing jump backflips. Like that'd be amazing.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

Those are my two guys. I want I want one of those two guys. Um and my my worst case scenario is we take Cardinal Tate. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 27:56

Yeah, he's none of y'all are fans of Cardinal Tate.

SPEAKER_04 27:59

There's a pretty good he's gonna be great, he's gonna be a really good wide receiver. We do not need a number one wide receiver right now. We need to do that. What we do need is a defense, and there is so so much depth at wide receiver the third round. Okay, so much depth for number one.

SPEAKER_05 28:16

Someone better contribute day one because Carnell Tate is earned a good two Diomi Brown had three good playoff games, and Traylon Burks was a first rounder and got cut.

SPEAKER_01 28:30

So I would like another receiver in that room. Carnell Tate is a good wide receiver. He is not seventh overall. He is not seventh overall. You can't take him there. Um, and I'll also I do want to say he is not on the team yet. Brandon Ayuk will be in that locker room. That that is a locker room. I I don't care. I don't care about all of that extracurricular. All I'm saying is he's gonna be there. He's gonna he's gonna be there. Does he make the team? Does he get cut? Who knows? But he's gonna be there. So you're gonna you're getting your other wide receiver, Ryan.

SPEAKER_05 29:00

You know what, you know what, you know, you know what, Garrett, you're right. He's gonna be on the team. He's gonna score a touchdown in week one, and we're all gonna fool ourselves. Because by week eight, he's gonna be on the IR.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

That touchdown week one will be exciting, though.

SPEAKER_05 29:12

Exactly. And we're gonna be on this pod saying, hey, remember that touchdown week one? That was sick, huh? Uh, but yeah, I would love David Bailey there. I would prefer Downs, but I would be very happy about Bailey. Yeah, again, if that's the board, we are just, you know. Adam Peters is, you know, just seeing who's calling, who's calling. If not, all right. Boom, press the button. Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_04 29:31

So the key the key for us at seven is we need at least one tackle to be taken in the top six. That would be helpful. When that happens, we are sitting pretty at seven.

SPEAKER_05 29:44

No, probably don't need offensive line help there, I don't think. Probably trying to think of you know, yeah, linebacker would be great. Caleb down.

SPEAKER_04 29:52

We drafted we drafted Connorly last year. Uh we just we were losing two and four for two years for Laramie Tunsell.

SPEAKER_01 30:01

Yeah, that's true. Any centers available at seven?

SPEAKER_05 30:06

Reach, yeah, a slight reach.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Yeah, see ya. I really like Sam Hecht out of Kansas State here. Look, James's coolers have an overall name.

SPEAKER_05 30:21

Uh yeah, just we've talked about big year for the commanders coming up. It's it's need it. I'm trying to think of a comp. Like, because last year, I think we were just like going even going into last year, we were just I think still on that sugar high of like, dude, like we've got a top five quarterback in the league. Like, who's gonna mess with us? Now it's coach is on the hot seat, you got two new coordinators, Jaden, the contract is looming. You know, what's gonna happen? I I think I've haven't been on it this on edge since maybe the 2013 year when RG3 was coming back. Like, and that was that sets up badly because like the 2013 season was the most miserable I think I've been as a fan of this team. But I think that was the most the one time I was most tense.

SPEAKER_01 31:10

I would still argue it's a it's good to feel this way though. Like it's you're you're anxious because we have a good quarterback, we have the chance to be a good team again this year, even though we were bad last year. Like it's not it's not like uh 20 going into 2014 after that 2013 season where we were like, oh, we're really we're just gonna be really bad this year, aren't we? We yeah, we're probably we're probably gonna be better than last year this year.

SPEAKER_05 31:29

If Dayton is healthy, and I will you can't be worse, like the you just can't be worse.

SPEAKER_04 31:35

I'd also say this might be taking a little bit too far of a step back, but we got different owners in the building. This is not the Dan Snyder regime. We Josh Harris is understands how sports works, and he's gonna give a little bit more of it. Like the the pressure in that building, even though I agree that Dan Quinn is on maybe the warm seat, not quite the hot seat yet. I will say hot seat. He's on the he's on the fairly warm seat.

SPEAKER_05 32:02

He's he's he's not as hot as two years ago. He won 12 games and went to seat championship. I understand, I understand that. But I'm trying to think of the only coach's hotter seats. Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor, uh they don't have a hot seat in Cincinnati. I know. I don't know why. He should have been, but I I will say hot seat. I will say he he hired two brand new coordinators. This is on him, man. If this doesn't work. If you're and if the defense is bad again, we're bad, you gotta go. Because that's the one thing you're good with, supposedly. Hasn't had a good defense since he's been here.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

We just had 10 coaches changed over, so there's there's really not very many people on the hot seat. Uh Todd Bowles, is he still the Buccaneers coach? Yeah, he is.

SPEAKER_05 32:40

Bowles. You're probably gonna say Schottenheimer in Dallas, because you know there's always chatter about Dallas. I would put Sirianni on the hot seat, but I am just an English hater. That seat in Philly's always hot. Well, that yeah, it's true. You know, so I think like Quinn is in the top, you know, five or six, most likely. Like, you better have a good season or it's time to go, in my opinion. Alright, so after all that, uh Saints are picking eight. Ugh. What to make of the New Orleans Saints? Saints are wishing that we took downs and I think they are so they can get Bailey. There's still a pretty good edge rusher on the board. There is. Yeah, but you think that's probably where we're gonna go. I think we're gonna go. I think we're gonna screw over the Chiefs a little bit here. I think the Chiefs and Garrett might want that certain guy out of Miami. So I think we're gonna go Ruben Bain here and really just try to get you know some semblance of a pressure on New Orleans because they have they just really need it. They really struggled last year. Now, could Tyler Shuck be a guy? Who knows? And you'd maybe think about receiver, but there's not really a great receiver on the board. I think Lemon's too high to take him, so I take Tyson, too high to take those guys. So I think with Ruben Bain on the board, I think that makes the most sense. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

He he's actually my favorite edge rusher in this draft. Out of out of the three, I would actually take him number one.

SPEAKER_05 34:09

I mean, it's dumb to say it, but like the most I've seen like pop off on my screen has been Ruben Bain. Maybe it's because I watch more Miami games than Texas Tech Games or whatever. But Ruben Bain, pretty, pretty outstanding edge rusher. And they're the Saints, so they probably won't pick him, but I will. All right, Garrett, the Chiefs have nine, and you're probably mad that I took Ruben Bain off your board.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

Yeah, the Chiefs definitely were hoping that he would fall there, but I think uh a good plan is still in place there for them. I did not expect Caleb Downs to make it to this pick. I thought about going that way, but the Chiefs really totally need a safety. Um, but they do need a corner, and they have the chance to get the best one in the draft right here.

SPEAKER_06 34:51

My boy.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

If all three of those edge rushers are gone, uh former Virginia Tech Hokie, but out of LSU, Mansor Delane uh would be the Chiefs pick right here. Um best cover corner in the draft. He's he's super sticky. At least to LSU, he was super sticky. Uh, not as sticky in Blacksburg. He was good, but uh I I like Delane a lot. I don't think I don't think he's going to be top Blacksburg. Yeah, I don't think he's gonna be like top 10 corner good throughout his career, but I think he's going to be starting corner level good. Also, the Giants just won the draft. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. So my brother is a Giants fan. He literally texted me before we did this. He said, I hope we get Sonny Styles and Caleb Downs with those two picks. And look what look what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_05 35:42

Look what the one from I'm gonna be good in the NFC East. Well, Jared is making the pick, so we'll see. Is that who we're taking to 10, Jared?

SPEAKER_00 35:52

You mean to tell me that John Harbaugh is gonna get his new Kyle Hamilton. My damn team. Let's kick it. And go to a new team and get a generational linebacker. And a generational safety.

SPEAKER_05 36:16

Only if you pick it, my friend.

SPEAKER_00 36:17

Who I would call the best player in the draft.

SPEAKER_04 36:21

Thank you, Jared. Thank you. Have you ever seen this before with Harbaugh? I I'm not familiar.

SPEAKER_05 36:27

Nah, he doesn't have a good safety in Baltimore.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

There we go. I was mad actually earlier that well, not mad, not mad, but I was shocked earlier because the prototype John Harbaugh pick would have been to go with Downs at five. But if this is the way your board goes, now if New York's serious about being in a new decade, you know, a new a new time here, they might have to get aggressive on draft night to make that dream that that you mentioned a reality. Now that you have that 10 pick, you might have to flip that one to now go higher and and and really try to get aggressive. Because if you can get both of those guys and pair them up and they're already familiar with each other, I mean it's a completely transformed defense.

SPEAKER_04 37:24

Day one.

SPEAKER_00 37:25

Who needs Dexter Lawrence? I mean, they're they've I mean those guys the funniest thing to me, and I guess the biggest point of this draft pick is I don't think Dexter Lawrence is worth the number 10 pick in this draft.

SPEAKER_05 37:38

Do we know what the full trade was? Plus more.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

It's more than the 10th pick. I don't know if it's been announced yet. Um, but yeah, I couldn't believe that. A 30-year-old defensive tackle? Like he's a really good player, but it's under a pick recently, like who's not been great in the last couple years?

SPEAKER_05 37:57

Crazy. I'm trying to think of it. I man. I'm sorry, but this rap report have it. Rap Report is usually good with this over Shefter.

SPEAKER_00 38:05

I'm trying to see.

SPEAKER_05 38:06

I haven't seen it reported yet, Ryan.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

Oh, is it not even confirmed?

SPEAKER_05 38:11

Well, it's pending a physical. Yeah. So the the Bengals could be. We know how that can go. Yeah, Mr. Crosby. Oh, did we just do all this for nothing?

SPEAKER_00 38:23

But anyway. I um I don't know. The Bengals are dumb. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:31

Yeah, they are.

SPEAKER_00 38:32

Like they may be worse than the Browns. It's a pissing contest between them and the Browns for who's the worst. The Ohio team.

SPEAKER_05 38:41

It's Ohio, man. I mean. What a stupid state.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

Sorry to all our all our Ohio listeners out there.

SPEAKER_05 38:47

Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 38:48

Nope. Not sorry. Not sorry at all.

SPEAKER_05 38:50

You know what? It's alright.

SPEAKER_00 38:51

I stick by my statement.

SPEAKER_05 38:53

But you love that McDonald's and independence, so that's pretty sick.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

Yeah, it was a bank. It's pretty sick.

SPEAKER_05 38:58

Anyway. Would the um the Dolphins are at 11. The Tanking Dolphins. Yep. This is the if this is the biggest tank job I've seen in quite some time. This is unbelievable what they're gonna do what they're gonna do this year. It's unreal.

SPEAKER_04 39:15

So I will say this is pretty much the the order of the top 10 uh did not go how the Dolphins saw it going, but the result of the top 10 is pretty much what the Dolphins expected. Um I think the Dolphins are in one of the better positions in the draft, um, given the rest of their picks as well. They have a lot of needs, but they have a lot of picks, and they're in a really good spot to take their to fill their two best the biggest holes at 11 and 30, if they stay in 30. So we're looking at either a wide receiver or a corner, if you're in Miami. I think you could go O-line. I think if uh if the Miami guy falls, then you may look at that if you're uh the Dolphins. But I think you're looking at Mikai Lemon here, or you're looking at uh Dramon McCoy. And whichever one you don't take at 11, you're taking at 30. And in this instance, I actually think Dramon McCoy is gonna end up being the better corner than Monsour Delaney. Wow. And so the Dolphins will be taking Dramon McCoy at a lot. Jamon McCoy.

SPEAKER_05 40:26

Okay. I I actually agree with that. Would he just didn't play last year? That's the problem. Yeah, that's what you gotta worry about, you know. Yeah, it can work out with guys that don't play their last year, but you know, that's that's the only thing that would worry me. Like, how is he is he right? You know, that's the only thing.

SPEAKER_04 40:44

It is it is a little bit of a risk, but the dolphins kind of have room to take risks right now. They have room to take risks and swing big at some of these guys. Like, I you know, I actually wouldn't be surprised if the board fell this way if the Dolphins took uh Tyson at 11. I think he's uh Lemon is probably the more surefire bet, but in terms of ceiling, I mean Jordan Tyson has a massive ceiling. The Dolphins have plenty of room to, I guarantee you they before the third round is over, they've doubled up on wide receiver and they've doubled up on corner. They got plenty of room to take big swings.

SPEAKER_05 41:22

Interesting. I'm trying to think of who their wide receiver one would be now. Tyreek released and Waddle traded. Whoever they draft, probably. It'll be a good one. Malik Washington. Well, yeah, Malik Washington, probably. Alright, so I have the Dallas Cowboys at 12. Who? One of their two first-round picks. What's up?

SPEAKER_04 41:44

We'll be picking it at three, Ryan.

SPEAKER_05 41:48

In the real world, they'll be picking a pick. Wood is really, man, trying to just get us to do trades. Like he would not stop talking about oh, we'll do trades, guys. We're doing trades. I love it. Like these mocks, you're not doing trades because you never predict we never predict the trades right. There's either the years we say there's a billion trades, there's none, and the years you're like, oh, who's trading all these picks? There's a million trades. Yep. Dallas Cowboys need defense. Need a lot of defense. And Wood just took my boy, McCoy, because they need a corner. They need one bad. So I don't think we're gonna reach here all the way down to the other Clemson corner. Tennessee. The Clemson corner out here, I've maybe Ontario and Phil here on my border. That's the one I'm looking at. But you know, you said other, so I thought you meant other Tennessee corner. Sorry, no, no, sorry. No, I meant just other corner.

SPEAKER_04 42:38

Because the other Tennessee quarterback, Colt or corner, Colton the Hood, is around that area still.

SPEAKER_05 42:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:44

That is true.

SPEAKER_05 42:47

This is an interesting pick. It is an interesting pick.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

No, they would this would be a trade down at this point. Because all all the people at the top on my board are offense, and they don't need offense.

SPEAKER_05 42:59

And if I want to just, you know, gosh. We might have to seriously. Yeah, so I think they're gonna reach here.

unknown 43:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 43:11

Oh no, I know what they're gonna do. Jerry watches like a couple games a year, right, of college. He watches a few. You know who we saw a lot in the college football playoff? Yep. Akeem Mesador. Yep. So he's gonna go with Akeem Mesador 12. Who I think is really good, by the way. He's gonna be really good. But I think that like Jerry screams like, I saw this guy, man, make some plays. And it's like two games. But you know, that's what we saw. I think that's a significant reach. So I think Messador, if the board falls this way and they like Downs doesn't fall to them, and McCoy or Delaney don't fall, I think Messador's the guy they'd be like, you know, if we liked him at twenty, we like him at twelve, right? So just go get 'em. Don't wait 'cause the board's not falling our way.

SPEAKER_00 43:59

And I Gotta imagine Jimmy Johnson's gonna be at least an earpiece for um Jerry. So, like, in terms of like the Miami connection, like he'll he'll push the Miami guys to Jerry like as much as he can. Like he'll he'll be like, Oh, you know, I watched a lot of football, Jerry, and then they'll go back and forth for like an hour yapping at each other and then come to the conclusion that they're both morons.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

They'll go film a film a scene of Landman and then take it early bedtime at 6 p.m.

unknown 44:34

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 44:34

It's like a jar will be sleeping during the draft. All right, uh, I'm on the board with the Rams, right? Yeah, Rams up. So, as a casual Rams fan, this is exactly how I want the board to go because I think Makai Lemon fits the Rams would be so perfect. It it could not be more perfect. And if that is the pick, the Rams will have the best offense in the NFL next year and they're winning the Super Bowl. Two guarantees from me. Two guarantees from me if Makai Lemon is the pick.

SPEAKER_05 45:06

Yeah, they they'd be my pick to win the Super Bowl if it's Lemon. Like flatly simple. I don't think they need anything else. They just traded for McDuffie and they still had another first-round pick with ammo. If they take Makai Lemon, there's no way they shouldn't win the Super Bowl. And if they don't, it would be a massive disappointment.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

He's so good. His routes are so crisp. I would love if the commanders traded back and got him because he's so good. I I love him.

SPEAKER_05 45:30

That Stafford connection with him, because at this point, who knows with Puka. So, you know, like Mikhail Lemon could be, you know, just easy 700 yards and nine touchdowns, like right out the gate, and be a serious you know, contributor to that team.

SPEAKER_06 45:45

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 45:46

Mm-hmm. Yep, I love it. I love it. All right, Jared. 14 Ravens, your boys.

SPEAKER_04 45:53

This is an interesting pick, Jared.

SPEAKER_00 45:55

In honor of James, the the awful, terrible, bad scumbags. Scumbags, dude. Scumbag Ravens. Anyway. They are the Baltimore Ravens are here with their new jerseys, and um I'll bite.

SPEAKER_05 46:14

They don't look that different. Okay. I'm just like, it's like, I know, I understand, but like someone's gonna bite and say, like, oh, do they really change them? I'll be that guy.

SPEAKER_00 46:23

The numbers are the numbers iridescent now, which is kind of sad. That's that's cool. They look good. You can't see it on the pictures, but in person that's kind of sick. It looks good anyway. So I have three offensive linemen to pick from, which is great for me because Lamar Jackson was, you know, a little bit, you know, banged up at times last year. The offensive line's not getting better. We got rid of our best offensive linemen for some reason. That was weird. Still can't understand. So we've got a choice. Do we go interior and go with the kid out of Penn State? Or do we go exterior? I think we go with Spencer Fono. It's not pretty, but boy does it work. At least it gives us a bookend. And with a guy like Lamar, the bookends are the most important pieces. So if I if I can get Lamar some protection, then I'm okay. Um, you know. I love it. Uh it's not sexy, but no Ravens pick is ever really truly all that pretty outside of when they took Lamar.

SPEAKER_05 47:41

I mean, so I I think Kyle Hamilton falling to them. Well, yeah. Holy cow, like, how do the Ravens win the draft? Like, yeah, I think they just do that every year.

SPEAKER_00 47:51

That was partially Earl's team's fault.

SPEAKER_05 47:52

Yeah, we suck. We know we suck. We drafted Emmanuel Forbes over Christian Gonzalez. You want to keep naming them?

SPEAKER_00 48:00

No. But so bad. I mean, that's all I have to say. He's a good offensive tackle. I think Maui Noah is more versatile, but I think Fawn is the better tackle. So I think Fawn will be a better long-term tackle, but Maui Noah may end up playing longer just because he can swing at different positions. But I think Fono's gonna be great. I would be happy to have him. No Ravens fan would be excited, but I mean, we're at a point where we don't need to keep it.

SPEAKER_05 48:37

Correct. And this is very, you know, Jesse Minter defensive guy. We're in the trenches. He's not going to fly here.

SPEAKER_00 48:44

And he learned from I think Harbaugh's mistake, which I'll talk about later, because I think in many ways it'll he'll make picks that are not the the sort of ugly ones just for the sake of picking them. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:59

Okay. Uh 15 is Wood and the Buccaneers. Very disappointing slide at the end of the year. We pegged them as a playoff team and they lost to the Panthers.

SPEAKER_04 49:10

So yeah, and they haven't, I mean, frankly, they haven't done a ton to make themselves a whole lot better than they were last year. Um I think if you're the Bucs here, you're definitely wishing that Akeem Mesador was still here. I think that's who the Bucks have targeted at 15. I think they're gonna look at Kenyon Sadiq if he ends up here. Because they also may take a look at Jordan Tyson. I know it's not what they really need, but somebody's got to take away those Mike Evans targets. Baker's gotta have somebody big to throw to. I think Jordan Tyson and Kenyon Sadiq both fit that. But I think in the end, the Bucks pretty good organization overall. They've made a lot of good decisions. Levante David just left. I think that's where they're looking. And I think they get lucky here that Keldrick Falk is still in that second tier of edge rushers and is on the board. I think the Bucks close out that second tier and take Keldrick Falk at 15.

SPEAKER_05 50:14

I yeah, I think defense has to be the pick there. That was their weak spot last year. Yep. Um, you know, Baker played a little injured, but you know, that's there's he's still you know pretty good, and I think the defense is what was their problem last year. Sadiq would be splashy. I think Sadiq they would take a hard look at because him being on the board is really interesting.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

I just want to point out we've got five edge rushers going in the top 15 in our mock so far. That is wild. If that happens, that's gotta be some sort of record, right? Yep. It might be.

SPEAKER_00 50:48

And they're five. 2020 ones. Yeah, they're just I don't think it's impossible. No, I wouldn't call that, I mean, I wouldn't call it outlandish. I mean, but the funny thing is, after this, I think the drop-off is dramatic.

SPEAKER_04 51:02

Yes, yeah. There's one guy I have in that second tier still who's in the later mocks, but after that, yeah, it's it's bad after after Falk.

SPEAKER_05 51:13

1000%. So I have the Jets second first round pick here. I love this pick. I think it's fascinating. Because they're the Jets. And this guy, oh man, I want to take him so bad just because of the funny way. Do it, Ryan. He is not a first round pick. He's not a second round pick. He's not a third round pick, probably. You're not doing it. I don't think I will. They need I do. Let me look. Their other team needs include, but are not limited to linebacker, receiver, edge.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

They wouldn't, they wouldn't wait and try to get him at 33.

SPEAKER_05 52:03

No.

SPEAKER_01 52:04

They like him. You can't.

SPEAKER_05 52:05

You can't. No, I'm not gonna. I gotta know who it is that you're I'm I'm not gonna we're gonna go back to the well. It's Ty Simpson, Jerry. Okay. But we're we're gonna go back to the well here, and I'm going to butcher this young man's name. Oleava Vega Ion.

SPEAKER_02 52:24

That wasn't even close.

SPEAKER_05 52:25

That is not even close. But that's the Penn State Guard. The Penn State Guard. The Penn State Guard is who we're taking, boys.

SPEAKER_04 52:32

It's not sexy, but it's a really good. He's gonna be a really good guard.

SPEAKER_05 52:37

And I just screwed up the hold on. There we go. I can't spell. I tried to copy and paste his name from this website. I'm gonna write the Penn State Guard.

SPEAKER_00 52:45

Do they also have Olu? Or do I remember him going to a different team?

SPEAKER_05 52:50

He they do have Olu Fashano. So I mean I think just they lost Elijah Vera Tucker. Yep. Boost the interior of the O-line.

SPEAKER_00 52:58

So you got two Penn State linemen on the same team that from the essentially from the national championship push that they made. So I would say that's the one.

SPEAKER_05 53:09

I think the memes they take Ty Simpson for memes.

SPEAKER_04 53:12

I don't think they'll take Ty Simpson. I do think they would take Jordan Tyson at 16. I thought about that. I think they could go wide receiver. I don't know that the other two guards that are at the top-ish of the board would be there at 33. I think there are some teams that might reach at the back of the first, but I don't think guard is as big a need as wide receiver on the opposite side of Garrett Wilson. I think they might take a swing at the ceiling of Jordan Tyson, or they might even go Omar Cooper Jr. before Jordan Tyson's off the board. Maybe. I'm just thinking.

SPEAKER_05 53:48

I'm just wondering if, and he's probably not because he's a bridge quarterback, but if Gino is in their ear, like, look, I was beat to hell last year. Can we please get a guard? Like I'd I'd love to win a few games for you guys. Can you can we please keep me upright? So maybe they're thinking about that, but again, I don't know who's in their war room. So I think that with him that high on this big board and him still being available, I think they should do it. I think Aaron Glenn would is from the draft picks he's made, I think that's the route they should go.

SPEAKER_04 54:21

Yep. And now the Lions.

SPEAKER_05 54:24

Yeah, I'm on the board. I'm this is what I'm fascinated about.

SPEAKER_04 54:28

Happiest front office in the world right now.

SPEAKER_01 54:30

Yeah. I'm on the board with the Lions. Um it's kind of hard to pass on Jordan Tyson right here, but they really, really need a tackle. They need a tackle so bad. And they have, I mean, they've got Monroe Freeling on the board, they've got Caleb Lomu on the board, they've got Caden Proctor on the board. So they can really take their pick of the litter. The highest one on the board I'm looking at is Monroe Freeling. Um, but I do really like Caden Proctor out of Alabama. Like he's huge. Uh I think he fits kind of the mauling Dan Campbell type of offense they would they want to run. So I think I'm gonna go with Caden Proctor. Um, he also played the right side of Alabama, I believe. So that fits with uh stool sliding over to the left, which he said he's gonna do. So I think that fits well. Um I'll take Caden Proctor there. But the Lions, I think, are going tackle no matter how the board falls.

SPEAKER_05 55:22

Yes, that is a Dan Campbell, specially. That dude's a monster. The Lions are gonna draft. And he's athletic as hell. Like he's like, you know, making throws and catches crazy passes.

SPEAKER_04 55:31

Like, yeah, I think in their first two picks, the Lions are gonna draft about 700 pounds of man. And that's Dan Campbell's wet dream. I think I think that his wet dream. I think that Caden Proctor is going to be the best tackle out of this draft. He's raw, and he's gotta, but he's got a really high. I think he's gonna be the best tackle out of this draft. And the Lions are sitting pretty at 17 to take him.

SPEAKER_01 55:57

Pretty raw there, boys. Dan Campbell's raw, wet dream. Alright, Jared, you're on the board for Vikings at 18.

SPEAKER_00 56:04

Easiest pick in the draft, Jared. After the game. You're taking the white safety and calling it a day. All right.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

You're replacing your white safety for a decade. With the white safety.

SPEAKER_05 56:14

With the white safety for another decade.

SPEAKER_00 56:17

Do I have to talk about it?

SPEAKER_05 56:19

No, you don't have to. Okay. The Tin Man.

SPEAKER_00 56:22

I don't I the Minnesota Vikings, you know how much I forget about them as a team in the National Football League? Who's their quarterback next year? Kyler. Nine. Kyler. Yeah. Completely forgot he went there. Completely forgot.

SPEAKER_05 56:37

Uh that's uh you made my point. Yeah, you we made your point. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:40

Completely forgot.

SPEAKER_05 56:41

This is nine erasure. I won't stand for it. So you can be you can be his only stand, Garrett. We'll leave you on that island. That is stand for this.

SPEAKER_04 56:52

Alright, who's got the Panthers pick? That would be. We got the Panthers, and if I'm the Panthers here.

SPEAKER_05 56:57

Try Simpson!

SPEAKER_04 57:00

I do really like the way the board fell for the Panthers here. So your number one priority, if an if an edge rusher or Thieneman were to fall, you may look at it, but your number one priority in Carolina is helping Bryce Young. There's a lot of different ways you could help Bryce Young. You can draft a tackle, you can draft a pass catcher, or you could draft an everything you want tight end. I think that they can at Jordan Tyson because opposite Tetaroa McMillan, that would be an insane XY. I think you you look at Monroe Freeling because I'd like to keep Bryce Young upright, but he's a mobile guy. I think what you need is Kenyon Zadiq. Yeah. I think there's a chance that the Ravens could have taken him, the Bucks could have taken him, and the Panthers are absolutely thrilled that he's there at 19. I was toying around like would the Chiefs take him at nine? I think the Chiefs like some of those other tight ends in the three and four range. Like plan for Kelsey's. Yes. I think I think Max Clare, I think Oscar Delp, those kinds of guys are the Chiefs guys that they're gonna Andy Reid is gonna turn him in to Travis Kelsey.

SPEAKER_01 58:22

The Chiefs also lost both their starting corners in free agency, so I I kind of have Delane kind of penciled in there.

SPEAKER_05 58:28

That's fair.

SPEAKER_01 58:29

Or or Jerm McCoy, whichever one they like better.

SPEAKER_05 58:31

Yeah, I think the Chiefs, I mean, I don't know how this turned into a Chiefs discussion. I guess that's on me. But like I think, you know, them getting uh they want an edge rusher or that corner. If they they don't want to get a corner and an edge rusher at 9 and 29.

unknown 58:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 58:43

Alright, Cowboys again.

SPEAKER_04 58:45

I don't geez.

unknown 58:46

Cowboys.

SPEAKER_04 58:47

I love this draft for the Cowboys as a Commander's fan.

SPEAKER_05 58:50

As a Commander's fan, yeah. Because they have to reach twice the way this board felt. So yeah, I had them reaching for an edge rusher here. I don't think you go two edge rushers. So you saw that a few years ago. Again, Jerry doesn't watch a lot of games, guys. But he knows like some names. He knows the name AJ Tyrell. So we're gonna take Avion Tyrrell. Just out of clip. He just knows the name. I'm telling you guys, it is not deep with Jera. It is not deep. He will it's he will take Avion Tyrell, a slightly worse version of AJ Terrell.

SPEAKER_01 59:31

Like it. Alright. Yeah, that sounds good to me. Terry's gonna uh walk off a few touchdowns on him this year, probably.

SPEAKER_04 59:37

Yeah, I don't actually think he's that good. He should be a center talent. I don't understand that.

SPEAKER_01 59:42

Yeah, okay. Well, I have a Steelers pick now. Uh this is another will they, won't they, Ty Simpson uh area.

SPEAKER_04 59:52

This is my least favorite pick of the draft.

SPEAKER_01 59:54

That's not very Steelers. It's not very Steelers to reach for Ty Simpson right here. So I don't think they will. Um but I mean Aaron Rodgers hasn't even signed back with them yet, right? They got a different guy in mind.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:06

If he were to play for 20 in 2026, I'd be shocked.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:10

So yeah, so they don't have a plan.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:13

Well Will Howard's their plan. Will Howard.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:15

Yeah, I mean, great plan. Um, but I do think if if the board falls like this, I do think they run their their draft ticket in because Jordan Tyson fell to 21. And if you compare him with DK Metcalf, and you know, maybe it's Will Howard throwing the football this year, and that's not great, but next year maybe you can get a good quarterback. That's that's two good weapons right there. Jordan Tyson's a really good player, he should not fall to 21.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:39

Will Howard Will Howard can can throw a go route. If you have Jordan Tyson and DK Metcalf, all you have to do is take 10 steps back and chuck it 50 yards.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:49

Will Howard is gonna be scrambling after he hits his second step in his drop back every time he's in every time he's touched back. I I thought about a tackle as well, but I think if Jordan Tyson falls to 21, I don't know how you could pass him up at this point. You can't he can't keep sliding.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:07

I no, if it because I know I gotta keep I know Tomlin's not there, so I guess the Tomlin thing is like clouding my if this was Tomlin making the pick, Caden McDonald was probably going there. The guy from Ohio State. He just always takes defense, and I feel like that's a guy he had been like, I see he's not too far down the road. We like his spirit, you know, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:27

He'd say nice Tomlin impression. Watch that Barack Obama, Ryan.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:35

We like his spirit. Ryan, Ryan's got one uh 50 plus year old black man impression. That's all he's got.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:43

That's all I got.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

Ryan, do it Denzel.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:47

I think that's all I got.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:50

All right, Jared, you got the charges? I love this pick for the Chargers.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:54

Monroe Freeling. Next question.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:56

That's the easiest pick in the book right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:58

Next question.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:00

Jared, I think I I I the way the board fell, it has to be Freeling.

unknown 1:02:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:05

I think if Freeling is not there, the Chargers actually take the uh the guard out of AM.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:13

Uh maybe. But no, because the problem with with John with uh Jim Harbaugh is that he's got such tunnel vision on the trenches the other way that he'll keep adding to that D line for no reason and then just omit his O line forever. I don't I don't understand him. I don't get how he coaches, I don't get how he's even as successful as he is. It really is amazing. But the the pick is either gonna be if Freeland falls as far, he'll take him. Or I think Peter Woods at a Clemson. I think either one of those guys will probably be the guy he goes with. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:59

I think Peter Woods at 22 would be a horrible pick. I agree with you. I agree with you, but I think it would be a bad pick.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:06

Being in these picks really sucks. Like I say that. Like you either, if I'm if I'm a GM, I either try to trade up out of this pick, or I trade down out of the first round altogether because I hate these picks. They're never good value.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:22

So which is why I think Jordan Tyson at 21 was unbelievable for the Steelers. For sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:30

But that's the way the board felt.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:32

Yeah, 21 is a hard pick. 21 through 24 are real. 23. Browns can take whoever they want at 24. 21 to 23, really hard picks this year. Alright, you have the Eagles, Wood. Well, I mean, that was a great segue. So the Eagles right now, they're in a really interesting spot because the AJ Brown rumors are swirling. So the Eagles are gonna tip their hand here based on what they want to do with AJ Brown, or AJ Brown, based on their pick. Because Omar Cooper Jr. is sitting right there. He's a three-level receiver. I I know he's Indiana, but the Eagles are looking at a wide receiver if they're gonna trade AJ Brown. I teased Omar Cooper Jr. because he's the next guy on my big board. That's not who the Eagles are gonna take. I typed it out to. That's not who they're gonna take, Brian. I just like messing with you. I think the Eagles, if one of the edge rushers falls, they're gonna take him for sure. If one of the tackles, if Freeling was still here at 23, they're gonna take him because they're looking towards 2027. They're looking towards those future starters, not losing holes. Harry Roseman is a really smart GM. But much to the dismay of Commanders fans, the Eagles are gonna take who I think might end up being one of the best wide receivers in this draft class, Denzel Boston. I think that they are not going to have AJ Brown on their roster in 2026. I think post-June 1st, AJ Brown is not gonna be an Eagle. And I think Denzel Boston at 6'4, 215 pounds, is gonna be running go routes for them and catching balls in traffic, and I'm gonna hate it. But I think the Eagles are gonna fall in love with Denzel Boston.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:22

I don't I don't know if I I think he's gonna be an Eagle. You think? I I I just I think he's as much as he makes a fuss about Jalen Hurts, not all of it wrong, maybe not any of it wrong, he's too talented. He's still producing. I don't think they want to lose that in a do-or-die year. If if you if you trade AJ Brown, you're worse at receiver. I don't think there's any other way you slice it.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:59

I don't disagree. I don't disagree. But I just think that I mean AJ Brown read he reads it he reads a book on the sideline, right? He's gonna get his, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:10

I I got you, but I'm just I don't I don't know what's going on. There's something again. There's something toxic going on there, and they need they need to fix it one way or the other. Whether it's they talk it out and get over it and play, or they get rid of one of them. They they Jalen Harrison and AJ Brown were a disaster together last year, and they could have probably won a Super Bowl if all of that didn't go down.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:28

So and I don't think Howie's just gonna let it happen. Okay. But I but here look, here's the other thing. I don't think that Howie's gonna be mad if he has AJ Brown, Denzel Boston, and Devontis Smith. I'm not saying they're not gonna draft a receiver.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:44

I don't think they're not I don't think they're not gonna draft a receiver. I think they could still could. Yeah. They did trade for Dantevian Wicks. I don't you know, we'll see. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:51

I also just I'll interject this. I know we're not doing trades. Sorry, Ry. This guy, what I really actually want is the commanders to trade back somewhere in this range-ish, and I want to take Denzel Boston.

unknown 1:07:06

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:07

Okay. That might be a hot take. I I think Denzel Boston is.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:12

Can we get an extra first next year and a day two pick this year? That's the only way I'm coming down this far. Yeah, I yeah, I I yes. And at that point, there might be a run on receivers then, so then we'd have to trade back up, like if Omar Cooper gets taken forward.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:27

So the the trade the trade partners that I see there are actually Tampa Bay and Detroit at 15 or 17, which that could be a little bit of a reach for Denzel Boston at those picks. If Jordan Tyson is there, I still think I'd want to do that. Say again? Mike.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:43

He said Mikhail.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:44

Yeah, I want Mikai Lemon. But um if we trade back this far, if we're looking in that second tier of receivers, I have a different one that's my favorite that we're gonna get to look at.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:53

You got KC. We'll see.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:57

Yeah. Um we don't need to make this. Alright, we're at 24 Browns. Yeah, I don't I don't want to make this an Eagles discussion, but like I am just so down on Jalen Hurts. And if you made me say I have to trade one of them, I'm trading Hurts. Whoa! I am. I just am. I I don't think he's talented. Draft Ty Simpson, right? Do it. Uh no.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:18

No, dude, what's what's their what's their backup's name from Stanford? Tanner McKee, baby.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:23

Tanner McKee. It's Tanner McKee time. It's an key time. Alright, so I got the Browns. Second first round pick. The Browns, you could say, they need it all. We got Carnell Tate, who, despite Jared's, you know, you know, Jared's, you know, disdain, I think that is quite a fine pick for the Browns there at six. So we're good on wide receiver. But we need some help protecting whoever the whoever's back there. Whichever Pro Bowler you have. Yeah, you got all the pro bowlers. This is no issue. So if I'm looking at the board here, I'm way too down here. It's an easy pick, Ray. Maybe it is. Maybe I don't have the right. Mr. 800 box says it's an easy pick, Ray. Yeah, this guy. I'm I don't know if I'm looking at the same big board you were looking at, would. Because, gosh, I don't know here. There's not an obvious pick. I'm gonna take the kid from Utah, the Lomu kid. That's the pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:26

Yeah. At 624, Browns are sitting pretty. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:31

I think you gotta get some protection. Alright, Dot Bears.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:35

Da Bears. Um, yeah, so I'm gonna take a wide receiver because Caleb Williams just needs all the weapons that we could possibly get, right? He just needs them all. So I'm just gonna take another one, right? Um, anyway. Um I'm gonna put something here.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:49

Did Big Cat say this or something?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:50

Uh no, it's just they just they have so many weapons and they're like, oh, but Jaden went into such a better situation, and that's why we had a better rookie year. Anyway, uh, but that's besides the point. If the Bears don't take a defense at someone on the defense here, their GM needs to be shot in the street. So we're gonna take Caden McDonald. That's a great pick. We're gonna take Caden McDonald's. Um, I think that's a great pick. I love Caden McDonald um as a player. I think that's a great addition to their defense, and they need they they cannot pick someone on offense, they can't do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:22

I think Bears are the biggest candidate for under 500, possibly team that was that much above 500.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:30

Yeah, I mean it's the exact same thing as the 2024 commanders, right? They've won a bunch of games at the last second out there, right? And then and then had a playoff win, and now everybody's riding high on them. They're gonna regress. That that's what everybody said about us last year. We didn't believe it. They were right.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:45

Yeah, the bears were right, sorry. Yeah. The only thing with the the biggest thing with the bears, not even the last thing that wins, it's the turnover luck. They got so many turnovers for a bad defense. It's insane. That's not gonna happen again. All right, Jared, go ahead. Last thing on the I don't want to talk about the Bears anymore.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:01

Who am I? The Bills.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:03

The Bills, Mr. Buffalo Bills.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:06

Um KC Conception.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:10

Yes. Is he gonna go in the first round?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:14

Yeah, he is. Yeah, but he's gonna be really good. He's so good. He's gonna be really good.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:20

I like him better than some of the other guys, anyway. The Bills always end up picking some dude that can run gadget sweep plays and stuff, so just go ahead and take them and they'll have somebody new and shiny for Josh Allen to throw away in the AFC Championship game.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:37

So yeah, oh, and by the time the AFC Championship game comes around, the Bills are gonna be like, well, of course they didn't beat the Chiefs. Josh Allen doesn't have any weapons, yet we can't spend any money because we have such a bad cap situation, but you don't have any weapons and your defense is bad. Who's all the money going? Like, it's just the cycle. Like, the Bills are never gonna it's it's never gonna happen. And it's still gonna be Sean McDermott's fault. Y'all laughed at me and they fired him the day after I said he should be fired. I don't think anybody hired him. I don't even think he's a DC. He's playing golf somewhere. I'd do it. He'll get hired next year, probably. Yes, he's gonna be the number one candidate on a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:19

Robert Salah gets fired because they realize he can't head coach again, anyway. Uh who got the Niners? I got the Niners.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:29

Would it be and I I think this is an interesting one, too. Similarly to the Eagles, what happens with their current roster, I think, sort of depends. It depends on Trent Williams. They've had the best tackle in the league. And either way, whether his contract situation gets resolved or not, he's still 38 years old. And the 49ers are another team with a phenomenal front office that does not like to have holes year over year. I think the Niners, even if Trent Williams gets solved, they gotta have a tackle because he's gonna retire soon. And the way that this draft went, none of those top guys fell, which I think they could, but I think they really like the kid from Clemson. Blake Miller out of Clemson is phenomenal. He moves and is stronger than most of the guys on the board, I think. And if they needed to, I think they could put him wherever they not center, obviously, but they could put him in guard or they could let him sit and learn behind Trent. But I think Blake Miller out of Clemson is almost a surefire pick for the Niners, unless one of those other top top talents falls. I think they go tackle.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:46

I like it for them. Let me go. I have the Texans next. The Texans, I think, are one of the more intriguing teams in the league. 28-38. That's interesting. Because I it's smart, you know, Pay Will Anderson, obviously, great. I don't know if I'd pay Stroud this year. Sorry, I definitely would not pay Stroud this year. Definitely would not. I would have, again, I like taking advantage of bad organizations. I would have said, hey, Cleveland, give us one of your firsts and something else for CJ, and I would have you know done a quick little retool. I think Davis Mills is fairly capable with that defense. That's crazy, right? That's just me. They're not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:44

This is crazy.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:45

This is make or break for CJ Stroud. You guys are laughing at me, that's fine. But they need they need a lot on the offensive line, but also, I know they just paid Will Anderson. They could get a good defensive tackle. I think. Yeah. They're gonna get Peter Woods here. They're gonna get Peter Woods. I had to make sure no one took him. But yeah, we're gonna go Peter Woods here on the D-line and just kind of bolster your strength.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:12

Right, I don't I don't disagree with the pick. I disagree with the whole diatribe beforehand.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:16

Uh, CJ Stroud, I think, is a really good quarterback.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:20

Why? Why? Why is he a good quarterback? What what in this last year have you seen? In the in last year, not much.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:28

But he was on a house the entire 17-game season.

unknown 1:15:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:34

I think in 20 at 28-38, the Texans take line.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:37

That those two playoff games must they just shook me. I I don't like it. I I don't I don't I don't like how he performed there. I think it would be crazy if they got rid of CJ Stroud, but I still don't mind the pick at 28. They have this pick because they beat a you know a dead in the water Steelers team. And they their defense is good. They won like game. They did not make the playoffs. Oh my God. Draft Ryan, you should you should have drafted Ty Simpson right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:05

You're gonna sit here. No, hold on a minute. Hold on a second. Alright, let's go. Let's go.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:13

I did not, I was not, no. I never said his name.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:17

You have on countless occasions.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:20

Not tonight. What have I said Trevor Lawrence's name? Trevor Lawrence was better last year than CJ Stroud was. That is inarguable. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:28

Yes. Yes. 1,000%. But to suggest that, first of all, I said I would have called. But you would have Brian. You said you'd go with Davis Mills. Anyway, you know the rest of the story. To suggest that's that that that's even who they prey on is ridiculous. There's no way that they're gonna prey on the Browns.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:57

Not be Yeah, okay. The Browns. The Jets, then.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:00

Fine, then fine, then the Jets. Then some other bad team. But if they would have done that, they would have.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:06

It doesn't have to be the Browns. It could have been any, it could have been any team that needs a quarterback. The Cardinals.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:11

If they would have done that, they would have done that by now. Like that's not.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:14

I know. I'm saying that's what they should have done.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:17

Hey, we've anointed two Stanford quarterbacks starters in the league next year, Tanner McKee and Davis Mills. Let's go, boy.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:24

Hey, that's a win for Tiger Woods without the Cardinals.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:27

Andrew Luck is so up. All right. Uh I'm on the board with the Chiefs. I'm gonna hard pivot away from the CJ to draft and just take over this podcast. We're gonna go with the Chiefs. Um, I picked uh Mansor Delane. I picked Mansor Delane at nine earlier for them. And I think they really could double up on corner here and take like a Colton Hood if they wanted to. Like I said, they did lose two corners that were started for them last year in free agency. But Omar Cooper is sitting there. Um, I don't know how they feel about Xavier Worthy, but I'm not feeling great about Xavier Worthy so far. Not either. So I think they could double up there and take and take Omar Cooper um and have two first round receivers there that they hope one of them breaks out um to give Mahomes uh another weapon with his geriatric Travis Kelsey coming back for the next like three years or something. What did he sign? Um it's a great two years, it's a one-year deal with the last two years are like pretty fake. Yeah, well, he's he's not gonna be able to run uh in two years. So uh yeah, Omar Cooper's the pick.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:36

And Jared has the Dolphins. Is that right? I I don't think they're great about Rasheed Rice either, to your point. I don't think they feel great about any wide receiver they have. He's decent, but he's not anything else. I'm saying off field. Like just the the noise, like the nonsense. I don't think they feel great about that. I I wouldn't either.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:58

Alright. You got the dolphins. Let me just make sure of something before I make an ass of myself.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:08

You guys already think I did. Suggesting that the team should try to get better. Mills Mafia! That's that Catholic guilt right there, right? I'm not saying he was a quarterback of the future. Ryan's number one Mills Mafia guy. Who would have given them a better shot in that playoff game?

SPEAKER_02 1:19:30

CJ Stroud!

SPEAKER_05 1:19:32

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:32

What are we talking about? Jeff Driscoll. Jeff Driscoll. They should have benched him at halftime. Brock Osweiler. Tom Savage!

SPEAKER_01 1:19:41

Oh, Tom Savage would have lit the Patriots up.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:45

He would have lit them up. Get Fitsi back out there. Honestly, dude. Yeah, Fitzy probably would have given him the best shot. Jared, what are you looking up?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:59

No, I got it. I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:05

Tyson.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:07

Oh! Oh man. Oh, wow. No. Oh man. Oh no. No, Jared, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:15

You're not gonna sit here and tell me Malik Willis is a franchise quarterback. You're not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:21

But those two games are pretty great, right? You're right. I'm not going to do it. Those two games where he won where he won exactly zero of those games, he looked pretty good, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:29

See how much easier it is to argue that point, Ryan, than to do that. Anyway.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:37

Jared, that's a crazy pick for the Dolphins there. I did not have that in any of my mocks.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:43

But here's the thing: first round quarterback contracts are way too enticing not to pass, you know. And if you can have him sit for a year behind Malik Willis or wait air apparent with Malik Willis whenever he ultimately fails, you do it. You do it for cheaper. It's yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:03

I I agree. I agree with that aspect. And because of that, I have the Cardinals trading in a 31 in my other mocks. To get this guy, this guy, man. This guy. The trades. Gosh.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:18

But when we were talking beforehand offline, Ryan said he thinks that Ty Simpson goes at 29. I I think, yeah, I think someone trades with the Chiefs at 29. And I think what Jared just did lends itself to that because absolutely the Dolphins could take him at 30. So if the Jets or the Cardinals won him, 29 might be the spot. I agree.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:39

Yeah, because who did we have him taking earlier?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:43

Uh corner. I had them with Jamad McCoy.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:46

Yeah, so you get a good surefire player there at the first one and come back later and take your risk on the QB. I think that's it.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:56

Now I will say, I don't know who Malik Willis and Ty Simpson are throwing to. There is a lot of depth in the second and third rounds for the Dolphins to take wide receiver, but I think wide receiver and corner are what they gotta go. If Ty Simpson's the guy, then absolutely quarterback, you need to you need to go. But I think wide receiver is a huge, huge hole for them right now. Alright, we we got two picks left. Yeah, let's get let's wrap it up. What do you mean? You guys aren't enjoying this? Alright, so 31.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:28

I think Oh, God.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:31

I do think I do think the Patriots are gonna trade out of this pick by a couple to either the Cardinals or the Chets. They're gonna still get their guy if they do that. Um, but the biggest problem for the Patriots was getting to the quarterback. They just could not do it. And they're not in a spot that they're gonna get one of those guys that's on the top of every mock, but there is a guy that I think is gonna be just as good as everybody else there, and that's Zion Young out of Missouri. I think he is gonna be phenomenal. He's an incredible high motor guy. He can do a lot, he can drop back into coverage if you need. Um I think he's gonna be a really, really good edge player, and I think the Patriots, if they stay here at 31, they're gonna take Zion Young. I think the other guy they look at is Cassius Howell out of Texas AM, but I think Zion Young is gonna be phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:20

I know you want to speed it up, but I'll tell you what would be so Mike Vrabel in all of this would be to find a way to trade back in round two and then lock up Jacob Rodriguez. Jacob Rodriguez is the ultimate New England Patriot. I'm just gonna tell you that straight up. That kid literally screams Patriot. So I just that would be the only thing that I would say, and I agree with you. I know we're not doing the trade thing, but I think why even trade?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:48

Just take him at 31.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:50

You could.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:50

Yeah, that would not be a reach.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:52

I'd be fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:53

That's not that bad of a reach.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:56

Okay, I have the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks. Need a quarterback. Yeah, you need a quarterback.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:05

Sam Darnold stinks.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:07

He's bad, dude. I think there's yeah, no. It already takes me boy. You can't take him twice. Um, I think losing Rek Woolen, why not help bolster the secondary? And Colton Hood is still there. So we're gonna go take him. That's the rich getting richer. I thought about going, you know, this is the 32 second pick. Maybe they go Chris Johnson. Yep. But Colton Hood still being there, I think that I think they run that card in. I think that is a great pick for them. And Seattle just as scary. I think they come back to Earth a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:47

I know we wanted to wrap up quickly. I don't really care. This is all Gary, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:52

No, I'm I'm fine. I just wanted uh I wanted to get through the last few picks, so I didn't care about those.

unknown 1:24:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:56

Can we can we Yeah, now we just hang out, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:59

Can we do a one player that we want? Or like a one player that we like in the draft that we don't feel like anybody's hyping up enough. I know I feel like we have to.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:09

I'll go last.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:11

But I feel like we have you go first, Jack.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:17

Um, I'm actually gonna take a quarterback. I think um there's a guy that I would have Baltimore taking a little bit later if uh the picks went the way that they did. I think Taylor. I think Taylor Green makes a lot of sense for what Baltimore does. And Baltimore has been returning to the same well of backup quarterback for a while, and they need to get younger there. And I think Taylon Green would be the perfect like fifth rounder. Um he's super athletic, he's very raw, but he also could be serviceable. His player comp literally is Josh Johnson, which I know is a funny player comp, but the guy's been in the league for a long ass time. Criticize him all you want, but he's been around for a very long time. So, I mean, I like it. I like the kid. I think he's gonna be a fun little talent.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:15

So I like him. I've seen a couple people say that the commanders might draft him to back up Jaden, which I would not mind either. Uh, I think he's pretty good. Um, yeah, I think it's a good one for the for the Ravens. I I'll go next because I already started talking. Um at 71 for the Commanders, I mentioned that I want Cale Downs or something styles first round. At 71, I want Ted Hurst, wide receiver out of Georgia State. He's 6'4, 200. He runs a 4'40. I think that's exactly the guy you want to pair with a Terry McLaurin. Uh, we need that big body in the red zone, but he's still fast, can win deep. Um, that's my draft crutch. I wherever he goes, I'm gonna be probably picking him in like the last round of fantasy drafts because I think he's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:01

Yeah, I'll give uh I'm gonna I'm gonna cheat a little bit. I'll give two, but I'm gonna go to the later rounds. Um, I'm gonna look at the sixth round there at that 187 pick for the commanders. There's two guys. There's two guys I think we could take. Um I I think it would be a good one. Sixth round we're watching. Roman Hemby. I I don't hate Roman Hemby. Um, if he falls, if he falls past the fifth round, I think Demon Claiborne out of Wake Forest is gonna be an unbelievable running back. I think he can do a lot of things. I think right now our running back room, I Jeremiah Love is not gonna fall to us at seven. We need one other guy. I think Demon Claiborne is electric, and he's gonna be a playmaker wherever he goes. So I think if he falls to 187, I think that's a that's a home run. The other guy, and I know we the organiz Garrett and I talked about this uh a couple days ago. The organization does not think we need a center. I think Nick Allegretti is gonna be fine. Pat Coogan out of Indiana. He is gonna be a home run center. He's he's not flashy. He's strong, he's sturdy, but he is smart as hell. You want to say what you will about Indiana, but when you have a center that can do what he can do and enable Fernando Mendoza to just go make a play at the line, I think Pat Coogan is going to be a really, really solid center for somebody in the NFL. So if he's there like in the seventh round, sixth, seventh round, uh I think I think Coogan could be a really sneaky good pick for us in the long term.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:40

Well, and remember the last time the commanders picked a center in round six, that was Chase Roulier. He started for us for like four years. Yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:47

And if you all don't get him, Baltimore is gonna take him. So I'll tell you that right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:52

The Kooks, you gotta get kooked up, dude.

unknown 1:28:54

Gotta get cooked.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:55

I'm gonna go a little more flashy here. I just for me, like, besides like obviously the blue chip quarterback, I feel like the mid-round receiver is very just intriguing, like a lot of these teams. If the Chiefs, wait, who do we have? The Chiefs? We have them. I had Omar Cooper. Yeah. If they pass on him and they get their hands on Zachariah Branch, yeah, it's over for the league. He's he is unbelievable. At 74. I cannot believe he's mocked that low. If if the Chiefs can get him in the third round, they could take don't have the draft.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:33

I mean, they might take a Zachariah Branch or a is it Jeremy? Jeremy Bernard out of Alabama. Jeremy Bernard, yeah. Yeah. Both of those guys, I they they could end up being first-round talents. Chiefs could take one of those guys at 40 if they wanted.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:48

Another guy that I think is gonna go in the second round, and I I just hope he's healthy, because wide receiver once is Chris Bell. Yeah. I just please get healthy, young man. Somewhere if he's healthy. Yeah. He would have been a first-round pick easily. I think some good team. If like I'm trying to think, like Minnesota, he fits he's interesting there. You know, another guy with Justin Jefferson. I think a team that like right now could use a second receiver, I think he'd be great there.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:19

So let me let me flip this conversation now. Um, Jared, I'm gonna I'm gonna prompt you, but let's go back around the circle. Um, what's a guy who could get taken by your team at their spot who you would not want them to take? Like in the first round. In the first round. Yeah. Or I mean, look, we can we can go wherever. You know, we we can go wherever first couple rounds.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:42

I really only know the first rounds.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:45

Probably one, maybe two or three if you want. But is Kenyon Sadiq that guy for you at 14?

SPEAKER_00 1:30:50

Yeah, he is. Um, I I think there's too many good tight ends in this draft to just go reaching. I really like Gillenborg, who's out of Wyoming. I like Delp, who's out of Georgia. I don't I mean, I just think there's way too many options that I uh love picking him. I also really it's a kind of to blend in with the last question, but I just realized I'm pretty sure, if I remember right, did we lose Patrick Ricard? Yes, yes, he's in the back.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:24

He's in he's in New York now.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:26

I'm gonna tell you right now what I need to have happen in round seven. There's a running back, slash wide receiver, slash tight end, slash whatever they're gonna list him as, that I want the Baltimore Ravens to take.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:42

Argentina?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:43

His name is Eli Haydnright. Yeah, he comes from Maryland, baby. And he's in he's from Navy. And that's who I want to be, actually, our H back um to replace Patrick Ricard. I I want the commanders to take him in the seventh round also to be another tight end, so uh that's why I wouldn't take I wouldn't take Sadiq. It's too easy to want to take him to to replace likely. But you gotta remember, Isaiah Likely was a third rounder? Maybe even later than that. Maybe a fourth round, I think. Yeah. He was not a top pick, so don't feel like you gotta rush that.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:21

So Heidenreich is is great value brand, tays him hill. I I think he's he's gonna be that sort of Swiss Army knife. I want the commanders to take him in the sixth or seventh round, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:32

Y'all don't have to be a good one. I think he'd be picked would I don't I don't know if he's wants us to take ten guys.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:36

We have like four picks. He's like I don't think we have six.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:39

We have two picks in the sixth round. That's I mean that's I'm hype hyper focused on the sixth round, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:32:46

He's like it.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:47

We got one. Right, who do you Ray, who do you not want us to take at seven?

SPEAKER_05 1:32:52

I don't I don't want to I don't really want to go tackle. Yeah. Like I if Maui Noah's on the board, I'm worried Peters will be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, he's still on the board. Um Sadiq also. If Tar if Carnell Tate's gone, I don't want to reach for a receiver, I feel like either. Like, because I'm I'm worried they could feel pressure to get a wide receiver too that's like going to be established in the high pick. I wouldn't do it at seven. Yeah. So I would just stick with defense. Don't I would be shocked if we went tackle, considering we have Tunsell and Connor Lee.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:36

Yeah, I don't want uh Carnell Tate. I don't want Jeremiah Love. I don't want anybody on offense. We Jaden was out for all the five, all except for five games last year. Um, and we had a top 10 offense in the NFL. We we don't need to be drafting offense with this stacked of a defensive top 10. Take somebody on defense, please. Unless you trade back, um, which would be fine. But if you're if you're in the top 10, you need defense.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:04

Yeah. Yeah, I I agree. That was gonna be my one up on on your take, Rise. I don't I don't want to take Carnell Tate there either. I think we I think we might end up doing that, but I don't want to take a wide receiver there. I agree with Garrett. I think Brandon Ayuk is gonna be in the room. I also think that Luke McCaffrey is gonna step up this year. I think when he gets the opportunities, he's gonna be good. Um, I want to take that wide receiver in the third round. I think Malachi Fields is also a good option.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:32

Um, because when you get a topic, Homerism.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:36

A little bit, a little bit. Hey, that's my that's that's my wife's almost what can you get? Yeah, um he almost said it's my alma mater.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:44

He almost did. Um I'll give you Malachi Fields and raise you Elijah Surratt if he's there. I'd like him.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:50

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I think I think uh I think there's a chance that Chris Bell slides because of the injury.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:57

That would be great.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:57

I think that would be great at 71. I think Surratt would be great. I think Malachi Fields and I think uh Ted Hurst also. Yeah, like Garrett Ted Hurst. The third 71, that's the spot for the wide receiver. I do not want to take the wide receiver at seven. I agree.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:13

Yeah. Agreed. All right, any more games we want to play?

SPEAKER_06 1:35:16

No. Just uh just wanted that.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:19

No, it's not a game. Sorry, I didn't mean it like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:21

Will the commanders draft a kicker? Maybe.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:27

Maybe who's that guy you said you needed in in a tryout? McCrane.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:31

Oh, the DC Defenders kicker, Matt McCrane. He had a 56 yarder today.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:36

Oh, let's go. I'm kidding.

unknown 1:35:41

I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:42

I don't think so. No will a hooky be drafted?

SPEAKER_05 1:35:46

Do we count Delane? Do we count him? Would be the only one. Gilliam sixth round, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:51

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:52

Yeah, Kelvin Gilliam's the only one that I think maybe.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:54

Well, besides besides Kyron Jordan's first overall, but other than him.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:00

It'll be interesting. This draft will I I know Wood wanted to make a lot of trades. I don't think there will be that many.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:07

That was gonna be my next question, Ry. What what is the most likely trade you see happening if okay?

SPEAKER_01 1:36:15

I I'll I'll I'll say one off the top. I think the Giants will trade Dexter Lawrence to the Bengals for the 10th overall pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:24

No fucking way, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:25

I I honestly think, and I know we'd said it a lot, I think if the board falls the way our board fell, the Chiefs and commanders are swapping picks. And the Chiefs draft Bailey or Bain, whoever they like better.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:38

I think the Chiefs are jumping up higher.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:41

Yeah, you think or four. Yeah, three. Wow, that'd be something. Yeah, I think the Chiefs want to take advantage of this. Like they're they might never have a high pick for the next 12 years, right? So they want to do jump up.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:54

Yeah, I I I alluded to it in the Cardinals pick. I think three is where the trades start. I think I don't know if it's the Cowboys or if it's the Chiefs, but somebody is trading into three. Um because the car uh the Cardinals are, I mean, the folks have reported it already, but Cardinals are actively trying to trade back. They know that as they should. Yeah, they know that they can get one of those tackles in the 10 to 15 range. I don't think they care who it is. They got their order, but they can get a tackle. If they can get an extra first or early second round pick for it, and then go from there, I think the Cardinals have to do that. So it's either the Chiefs or the Cowboys, I think. I think the Browns will hold steady. Their needs fit well with 6-24, but I think the Cowboys or the Chiefs are trading into three. The other thing is, and Jared Jared made the pick that made this hard. Somebody's trading into the back of one for Ty Simpson. Above the Dolphins. Yeah. Yeah. They're gonna they're gonna get the fifth round option. I think it could be the Niners at 27. No.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:00

Oh, you mean oh the yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:03

Yeah, not the Niners taking him. But the Niners are gonna be sitting there with all the tackles off the board, and they're gonna see a couple tackles, a couple guards. They'll go back five spots for that. That's no problem.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:13

The Raiders after they trade out a number out of one. Yep, maybe. Tyson.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:19

I don't know if I don't know if we answered doesn't I don't know if Jared answered this question. Take the board out of it. Like the who is your dream like pick for the Ravens? Like, who would the dream be? Like, man, if he falls, or like anywhere we're picking in the draft, who is the best player on this board that, like, man, he's a Raven? Caleb Downs. Caleb Downs.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:39

If I could get Caleb Downs and Kyle Hamilton, you guys are screwed. Like, I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:45

Yeah, because we play you every year. That one that one time we play every four years. The pre free season week three. No!

SPEAKER_00 1:38:54

You guys would be so done for. He doesn't fit as much as I would like him to. David Bailey would be huge. If I could get David Bailey to be on the other side and then, you know, work him in as a D tackle or a like D-end, and then you can have Mike Green there next to him. I mean, that would be scumbag. You want to talk about a scumbag. Yeah, but I mean the back to that scumbag defense. Okay. I want to play.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:27

I I know we're running late. I want to play one more game. It's not even a game. I want to know, like, highest profile player in the league that could get traded draft night. That will see that will see it like board like, whoa, how'd that team jump all the way back? Oh, they traded blank. I think AJ Brown's the easy answer. Right, but I I think they would have done this already, and you guys are gonna probably log off. I think the Browns could wind up. Yeah. Yeah. I what I would have here's what I would have done if I were. Yeah. No. Yes. I I think the Browns, like I would have if I were the Raiders, if I knew I was losing Max Crosby. Like if the if the Max Crosby deal went through, then extra first, I would have called Cleveland. And be like, we will give you the number one overall pick. And like maybe one other thing for Miles Garrett. But I think that's not gonna happen now since you know Crosby's still on the team. I think Miles Garrett is a name to watch on Thursday.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:40

Yeah, but it's gotta be like for a top three pick. Which of those teams is gonna trade for Miles Garrett? You can't none of them can compete if they trade for Miles Garrett.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:52

Or the Eagles will trade three first.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:56

But the Browns don't say yes to pick 20, whatever for Miles Garrett. They would say yes to three. Two and sixteen. The Jets might because they're stupid, but if you if I was if I was the Jets, you don't trade for a 29-year-old edge rusher because you're not going to compete next year.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:16

I think the Jets would trade 2, 34, and two more firsts for Miles Garrett. I think that's the market right now. I don't think it has to be a high pick. I think I think a team in the lower, like Dallas, if Dallas wants to say, hey, Cleveland, here's two more firsts plus two more after this.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:35

Dallas would fit it for 12 and 20 plus a first next year. I think that could get it done.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:41

Yeah. Anyone else that we're looking at? Like AJ Brown, we talked about. Um Dexter Lawrence would have been the other one for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:50

I'm trying to think. I'll give you a commander's one. If the commanders really wanted to get more picks in this draft, I could see Daron Payne getting moved. Last year of his deal. He wants a new contract. Adam Peters doesn't want to give him a new contract.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:01

I kind of want him to get moved because we need the day two pick. I love Daron Payne. He's still like he's one of the few Redskins left, but you gotta move on. Like it's been it's it's been too long. And he produced fine last year, but like it's it's over.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:18

This isn't this isn't that this isn't that big of a trade, but the Lions have such a bunched up wide receiver room that I could see them moving somebody in there as a pick. I think like uh you know, Isaac Tesla, it's not flashy, but but he I would have said Jameson Williams. Sure, yeah, I think they should move Jameson Williams. Like that's Jameson Williams too. I I just think that Isaac Tesla had such a high volume touchdown year last year, and he's not gonna have that opportunity again. So I think maybe it is Jamison Williams, or maybe and they move Tesla into that spot, but I think the Lions wide receiver room is so bunched up that if they want another day two pick, uh, you know, they could move one of those guys and and grab a tackle, an offensive tackle, a defensive tackle, and then they can go and you know do whatever they want with that other day two pick because there is some decent depth in late round two or early round three.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:14

Can can Dallas trade George Pickens? They can't tag him yet. I don't know if they tagged him or not. I'm not up to the city.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:24

Because if they do, a team's not gonna be able to get a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:26

I'm pretty sure they did for him.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:27

They yeah, the the the reporting at least, and the only reason I know this is because I just traded for him in my dynasty league. Uh the reporting is that the Cowboys have long-term plans for George Pickens. That's a mistake. That's a mistake. So they might they might keep him.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:45

This wide receiver draft is gonna be insane. You could get two guys to start for in this draft.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:51

Can I last last thing, Wood? Then we gotta go.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:54

Yeah, we we took we really breezed through the Jeremiah Love thing at four. Nobody's talking about the Titans trading out of four. Because they're gonna take Jeremiah Love. But what what if they don't? What if they see the Cowboys at 12 and 20, maybe?

SPEAKER_00 1:44:12

They have Robert Slow.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:14

Or the Chiefs could use Jeremiah Love. The Chiefs just signed Kenneth Walker. Oh, you're right. Uh, I knew I was gonna mess this up, right? They they could double it up, but like I think them signing Kenneth Walker was a sign that, ooh, love's not gonna be there for us at nine.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:30

So yeah, you're yeah, but you know if if you're in the Kenneth Walker business, you have to have another running back that you give the ball to all the time that's not as good as Kenneth Walker.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:37

Kareem Hunt. Especially at the goal line. All right. All right, boys. That was loads of fun. Uh excited for the draft. And excited to probably next time we get together is next year, probably.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:48

This was this was 32 for 32, boys. I think we nailed it.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:51

Yeah, we gotta keep track and make sure we get them all right. Yeah, um, pick number where we start wrong of two and a half, higher or lower. I'm gonna go higher. I'm gonna go higher. Over one and a half. I I I mean, uh David Haley's going at two, so it's gonna be it's gonna be that one. All right, boys. Thanks for hopping on. Appreciate it. This was fun. See you later.