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Can the Tar Heels Catch The Tigers by Their Tails?
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In this episode of the SleepHawk Worldwide Podcast, hosts Brandon Staton and Tyler Hansbrough break down the North Carolina Tar Heels' recent win over Pitt and look ahead to their crucial matchup against Clemson.
The guys discuss the team's improved offensive execution and ball movement in the Pitt game, highlighting the strong performances from players like Ven-Allen Lubin and RJ Davis. They analyze how the Tar Heels can carry that momentum into the Clemson game and what keys to victory they'll need to focus on.
With Clemson coming off an impressive win over Duke, Brandon and Tyler examine the Clemson team's strengths, including their physical interior play and talented backcourt. They provide strategic insights on how UNC can combat Clemson's style of play and pull off the road victory.
This episode is a must-listen for any North Carolina basketball fan looking to get an in-depth breakdown of the team's current state and upcoming challenges. Don't miss Brandon and Tyler's expert analysis and predictions as the Tar Heels fight to improve their NCAA tournament resume.
and now the sleepwalk worldwide podcast. Here are your hosts, brandon staton and tyler hensbro. Welcome to sleepwalk worldwide podcast. This is sleep talk with the big hawk. What's up? And Tyler Hensbrough, welcome to SleepHawk Worldwide Podcast. This is Sleep Talk with the Big Hawk.
Speaker 2What's up everybody. This is the Big Hawk, Excited to be in the studio. We have a great pod for you, man. It is just let me tell you something. It is one of the most beautiful days out in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, so I hope everybody has gotten to get outside and enjoy this beautiful weather we have going on right now.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, and here I am sitting here in a hoodie in my house a podcast, with my wife pushing my son around the neighborhood so he doesn't scream in the background. Yeah, it is nice out there, man. Super Bowl Sunday. As we record this. Unc could they be a Tar Heel for a change man. A little W over Pitt. We'll get into that. Prep for the game against Clemson coming up today. We're going to push this out on Monday instead of Tuesday, so if you're listening, I'll play tonight and Clemson coming off a big win. We'll talk about what that might mean in the conference play, but we'll get back here UNC pulling it out 67-66 at Pitt or against Pitt at home. Just dropped one on the road to Pitt, so pretty big win coming back. Wins have at times been hard to come by. Heels need everyone they can get right now to get in the tournament. So where do you see? We'll get into the recap of the game, but let's start off T by just getting the rundown of where our heels are.
Speaker 2All right, so we'll go over to the whole overview and I really like this segment stacking it up. See where we are in the whole college basketball landscape. First of all, our net ranking. Again, this is put out from the NCAA. This is what they use to determine seedings and other things like that. I say it every time. That's the only really ranking I listen to or I place a lot of emphasis on.
Speaker 2Our net ranking right now is 45th in college basketball. I still think we're on the outside looking in. As far as it comes to the tournament and whether we're in or out. I think we need a couple more good wins to really justify us being overly confident and saying we're in the tournament. 45th's not that bad, but we need to improve and I think we need to get a few more quality wins to really confidently say we're in the tournament. Again, I'll go over the whole quad one, quad two, quad three, quad four situation. So we have one quad one win and again let me just verify, that would be over UCLA. That's considered our best win so far and I would have to agree with that.
Speaker 2Ucla is playing good right now. I think they're on like a seven-game win streak, so it looks like pretty confidently they're going to stay a quad one win and we do have a quad three loss. That is our worst loss against Stanford at home. That one hurt us and a quad three loss will definitely hurt. Your resume does not look good, but, with that said, we have no quad two losses and we have no quad four losses. Only losses come in quad one and we have one in quad three. Um, and looking at the acc standings, right now we're in seventh. Uh, that's not that good. Obviously. Uh, there's some room to improvement right there. Uh, you know we're starting to begin the back end of our uh conference schedule. So, uh, still a lot of conference games to be played and a lot of, you know, things could change, especially pretty soon when we start playing some of these big-time games.
Speaker 2We have coming up, especially against Clemson, and yeah, so that's where we are in the overview and you know, before we jump into our pit recap, I just want to say that the pit game at home was a big game because a lot of people, a lot of experts or analysts, kind of viewed this game as whoever wins this game is going to get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to seeding in the tournament, and a lot of people have us and pit kind of like, very close in the net, ran our net rankings. The very comparable pit was 47th or 45th and so, uh, that's why this game was so important. But, yeah, sleep. That's where we are, the whole overview of college basketball right now.
Speaker 1Yeah, so it's still. Look, I think there's two obvious games Clemson and Duke, I think. If I mean, I think my question again and we don't like getting ahead, I know you don't like getting ahead of ourselves, but reality is, I personally think you've got to win those two games to get a tournament. Maybe you've got to win one. I mean, you've at least got to win one to get a significant win on your belt. That's just really all we've got left, I think. And I guess my question is do you think there's a? Here's my question Do you think there's a way in without winning either one of those games? Do you think there's a way in only winning one of those games, or do you think there's a way in? The only way in is to win both of those games?
Speaker 1I sit here and I say, if we don't win, Tournament notwithstanding, obviously, because if you win that you're in anyway. Yeah, absolutely, If you win that, you're in anyway.
Speaker 2Yeah, absolutely. So here's my thing is I don't think we get in if we lose Clemson and Duke. And listen, these are our only quad one opportunities left on the schedule. The way it is right now at Clemson is a quad one opportunity, and home against Duke is also a quad one opportunity. There's no more quad one games after that left on the season in regular season. Now here's my thing we have to win one or two of those. I think we can get in if we win one, if we win two, if we win both those games. Barring that, we're not going to lose. Now. Miami is a quad four game right now. And listen, you do not want a quad four on your resume. That does more.
Speaker 1They're like one in 40. Yeah, they're one in 11 in a conference.
Speaker 2Yeah, so Sleep. I do think you have to win one or two of these games, Uh. But if you do lose both of them and you go on an ACC tournament run and you happen to be, you know, a quad one opponent there, you know the neutral court situation is a little different than home and away I could see us getting in that way. But if, if we lose both these games and we don't make a little bit of a run in the tournament, I do not see us getting in that way. But if we lose both these games and we don't make a little bit of a run in the tournament, I do not see us getting in. I would say that's pretty much our only way of getting in the tournament Right now. We've got to win one or two of those games and we cannot lose to Miami at home because that is a quad four.
Speaker 1And then the only other question I have is a game like this against Pitt Pitt's, like you said, respectable, right about where we are in the net rankings, does it matter that you win a close game? Does that take into account any? So let's say you beat, let's say you got an equal out against Miami, or pick one of these other games that was close, that maybe we should have won by a wider margin. Is that play-in at all?
Speaker 2You know, I would hope not. They always say that there's no pictures besides your score, and you know you always joke.
Speaker 2You say it's not a beauty contest and I laugh and you know, I know what you're saying. A lot of people right now they're looking at that kind of that Boston College game where Boston College isn't a strong opponent and we kind of eat that one out. I do not think that you get extra points for blowing teams out or winning close games. I just think that they'll base it upon your schedule and not how bad you beat teams or if you just barely beat teams.
Speaker 1Yeah, technically the way it's supposed to work. It's funny too, because the only other thing I go back to is I remember the beginning of the year we played that exhibition against Memphis and I was asking if that would help in any way. You know, maybe maybe someone's mind I never realized that, like I never wanted that game to be a regular season game so bad, because that certainly would have helped if it, if it had been instead of an exhibition. But but yeah, I mean, look at least the. I don't know. There's two things I'm looking at as a fan. Right. One is our path is very discreet at this point Beat, win those two games, don't lose any more bad ones and do the best you can in tournament. And you got a shot, you know, don't do that. Lose to a game Probably lose in reality.
Speaker 1I think if you lose any of these other games you know and not be, and if you don't be Clemson and Duke, like you said, you gotta win one of them. But if you lose any of these other games, I think at least it rips the bandaid off. And now it's like you as a fan at least you ain't going to stress out anymore. You really know what's going on. So you know, I think it was in. Let's not forget. We're getting ready to get into the to the recap of the pit game.
Speaker 1At the end you're coming off of a bad loss at Duke. Yeah, could have gone either way, I think, because they got just totally outmatched there and could have no-showed to a team you just lost to. So that's the one thing I think about this team that maybe doesn't get enough credit from the fan base is like yeah, I mean, I think it's obvious the team isn't performing the way everybody hoped they would, but they haven't laid down and quit. Performing the way everybody hoped they would, but they haven't laid down and quit. They're frustrated to watch at times and all these kinds of things. But to come back from Duke and just scratch it out, you can argue that it was not pretty, but it's also kind of who the team is this year. So a win is a win and we'll take all that we can get. We've got the big one coming up next, but let's jump into the Pitt game because it was a close call there but, like I said, a needed one.
Improving Offensive Strategy in College Basketball
Speaker 2Yeah, absolutely Sleep. You make a great point. I was really interested to see how this team was going to respond after getting blown out by Duke at Duke, and the reason I say that is because this season has been rocky. There's been not a lot of great wins, a lot of tough losses, a lot of close games. We didn't win and we go out to our rival, we get blown out, and then I'm sitting here wondering how is this team going to respond? Now we have a week of practice. I don't know if guys are upset how guys are going to respond after just getting blown away at Duke.
Speaker 2I've got to admit I felt like we came out and we played hard, and one thing I will say about this game right here is I felt like our shot selection was much better. I felt like we made an emphasis of getting the ball inside more. And I'm not talking about um, you know, just you know, finding the big man down low working through the post, playing through the post. That's not what I mean when I say play inside. There's multiple ways you can get the ball inside, whether that's dribble penetration, that's getting out in transition, pushing the ball more, or it could be your big, traditionally what you think about when you go inside, posting up, passing to him down low. Then we have off the ball movement and the big can make him. He can make a post move or he can find the wings as they move off the ball and put themselves in better position to score. I felt like we had a lot more fluidity to our offense. So what I mean by that. It didn't just seem like our guards were pulling the big out for a high pick and roll, dribble, penetrating, then dribble right into the defensive gaps and then passing it to the next wing and then they pound, pound, pound, dribble into a gap and then we just keep repeating that same thing over and over. I felt like we made it more of an emphasis to go inside and the one guy who I really felt like played well was Lubin, vin Allen Lubin. I thought he had a great game. I thought he, you know there was nothing sexy about it. He just put himself in position, he found you know spots that were open and he moved well. He put himself around the rim to get little dump-offs. He made good movement off the ball right there, just where the guards could find him real quick and he can go up and score and I thought that was super important to this team and I do feel like we penetrated and moved better without the ball. I felt like, especially at the Duke game, we had one guard that was penetrating, trying to create something, when other guards around the perimeter were just kind of standing still.
Speaker 2To create your own shot in basketball, that is one of the most difficult things to do. Not many NBA-level players create their own shots. When you talk about players that can create their own shot off the dribble, you're talking about Carmelo Anthony, you're talking about KD, you're talking about Steph, you're talking about the all-time great players. That's what really separates them the ability to create their own shot even while they're being defended, with not a lot of movement from the other players on offense as well. That is a high-level play and we didn't rely on that because relying on that type of offense is very low-percentage basketball, and I've coined it the term hero basketball. That's where we rely on a guy to shoot a contested shot that is almost impossible to make, and he makes it, but that level of play is not sustainable. I call it hero basketball. I didn't feel like we didn't get in too much hero plays this game.
Speaker 2I felt like the guards were moving. I felt like we kind of got out in transition a little bit better Our post play. I felt like we had deeper seals. We caught the ball closer to the rim, which when you catch the ball closer to the rim it puts a lot of pressure on the defense because if they do come to help then you have better off the ball movement where if a big catches it in the mid post then you have to take a couple dribbles to really get yourself into scoring position. If you have a deep seal in the paint that allows the post player to catch it and then go right to that right hand hook, the left hand hook, and it doesn't allow the double team to occur if they were going to trap in the post. Because you catch it so deeply, the defense doesn't have time to come over with that double and when we do that it really puts a lot of pressure on our defense and allows us to have better spacing on the court.
Speaker 2When we play offense I felt like at duke. Uh, we are starting our offense two or three feet behind the three-point line. Now, when you start your offense behind the three-point line, now when you start your offense behind the three-point line two or three feet, you really don't even have any scoring presence, you're not putting pressure on the defense and you're going to just lead to multiple turnovers because you're playing so far from the basket that you really don't have a lot of players in scoring position because you're so pushed far out and, honestly, sleep. We don't have a lot of players in scoring position because you're so pushed far out and, honestly, we don't have a player on this team that's going to be consistent making a shot two or three feet behind the three-point line. And so I just felt like we had a much better offensive presence this game. I felt like we shot higher quality shots, I felt like the ball movement was a little bit better, we didn't have lackadaisical turnovers, and that's what I take away from this game.
Strategies for Must-Win Basketball Games
Speaker 2Now, this game was super important. Like we said, pitt's net ranking was 47th. We're 45th, and so you know, even though they won at Pitt at least when it comes to talking about whether we should get in or Pitt should get into the NCAA tournament, now it puts us at a level playing field, and you know, and I know, if you're on that committee and you're talking about Pitt or North Carolina. Now, a lot of people aren't going to like to hear this, but this is the truth. Ticket sales I always go to hear this, but this is a truth. Ticket sales I always go to north carolina. They have a bigger base. They're going to sell more tickets and that's not the reason they're going to let us in. But you've got to think that that carries some weight with the but it's a tiebreaker.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know they ucla or you know.
Speaker 2Let's just say oregon say of course they're gonna, you're gonna look at that in some capacity. It's going to be in the back of their mind. They might not voice it, but it's their sleep.
Speaker 1Yeah, absolutely no, that's a good point about. So Lubin obviously had a great game. You know I'll get to RJ in a second, but your point about starting the offense out so far out, extended beyond the four, I feel like also it's hard for a lot of guys. I mean I even watched this in the NBA to. You know, it's hard to set effective screens out that far because your, your defense, can sort of sag off and recover, um, and you notice a lot of that. It seems like they start running their you know their screen 30 feet from the basket. Then it's hard to set a tight screen out there because you know you just got so much space to play and recover. So, um, I noticed that a lot too. Um, and especially like deep in the shot clock you know you're 10 I always look, I mean obviously between the two of us. Uh, I think you've probably forgotten more today than I've ever known about basketball, but it just does seem that when I watch I always pay attention to how many times, you know, we don't even start what seems like our offensive set until there's less than 10 seconds of shot clock you know there's a lot of movement or really don't even get the ball inside the three-point line until there's less than 10 on the shot clock, and that's one of my sort of pet peeves of basketball. I see it sometimes with us and I see it. You know, I watch a lot of, like I said, nba and stuff, and that's when that's how I can kind of identify your hero basketball part right and your point about how great you just have to be to consistently create your own shot. And I think at this level of basketball it's who everyone kind of like wants to be right and I think you see a lot more of it than is realistically sustainable. As you say, lubin had a great game.
Speaker 1The thing that stood out to me is RJ. This is like an. This is like the kind of game where we, I think, expected RJ to just have and it was like ho hum, nothing special, but he's six to 12, three or five from three, 3-4 from the line, 18 points leads the team in scoring Big bucket at the end. This is better late than never. If RJ can turn the corner and start putting out games like this, then you've got to expect a guy like Ian Jackson is going to come along and have a little bit better game. I mean, even though Cadeau didn't score the ball, he had seven assists. He knew his role right. I mean, even though Cadeau didn't score the ball, he had seven assists. He knew his role right. Drake Powell a lot of good minutes off the bench and you know Washington didn't do a whole lot from the stat perspective, but maybe that takes some pressure off him coming off the bench and playing more of a fill-in role.
Speaker 1But look, at the end of the day, this game was between two teams that had to have a win and we got a win. So you know, you can say what you want about the score. Uh, I think you're you're you're lying to yourself if you think all of a sudden carolina's gonna flip some switch and start steamrolling people. So at this, at this stage, man, it's just about survival and and and who's you know who's gonna grit their teeth and win games and and and try to get into the tournament. So that's my takeaway from it. Big one, I mean, like we were just talking about, you got to win one of the two at Clemson or at home against Duke, and I mean we're going to find out Monday. I mean Duke coming off a win at I'm sorry, clemson coming off a win at home over Duke. Here's why I like that.
Speaker 1And this goes back to sort of the not supposed to matter, right about Carolina ticket sales sort of comment. But hey, is Clemson sort of susceptible because they're coming off this big emotional win? Is that just a made-up thing? I mean, clemson's a good basketball team, so that wasn't the upset of the century. I mean, clemson's easily the second-best team in the ACC, right, but is the door open a little bit? I mean, if you're Hubert Davis, are you going in there and telling these guys, like you know, making them believe a little extra, that hey look, it's hard to come off a win like that. You know, banner win this season, basically just stamp their way to the tournament for sure. There is no way they're not in, right, clemson, that is. So I don't know. I guess, what's your thought process as Carolina heads in to Clemson and one of the two opportunities that they have of a must-win Could really turn things around if they win this game.
Speaker 2Yeah, and Sleep. That is a great point and that's something I've been telling a lot of people. Do I think Coach Davis should walk in and be like guys we got him? No, I do not believe in that.
Speaker 1Yeah that was kind of a dumb question. No, I you know what I meant.
Strategies for Duke and Clemson Matchup
Speaker 2Listen, I always like a team when they're hungry, and I don't voice that. I want them to go in there pissed off, knowing that, hey, we've got to do whatever we've got to do to win this game and we've got to be focused, we've got to be laser locked. This is about us, not really about them and what they're doing. Uh, but, um, sleep with. That said, I was hoping they would beat duke and obviously I wish that a lot whoever's playing Duke. But I was really pulling for Clemson because I felt like if they lost to Duke, they would be a little bit more focused and ready for us and I don't think that Clemson was going to lose two in a row. So Clemson is a good team. They're a good team. Now, let's not forget, they beat Duke at Clemson and they've also beat Kentucky at Clemson. Clemson is a good team. They're a good team. Now, let's not forget, they beat Duke at Clemson and they've also beat Kentucky at Clemson. Clemson is a tough team. They have, first of all, their net ranking is. I want to say they're a quad one. I think they're like in the 30, maybe 30 in the net rankings, I don't have it in front of me, but they have two bigs in Shefflin and Victor Lockett. Victor Lockett had an enormous game against Duke 22. Uh, they were very physical inside and actually for as long and as big as Duke is, uh, I really felt like they won the game from the physicality and their post interior presence out of Sheflin and Victor Locken. Both of them I felt like just kind of bruised and banged Duke around a little bit and I think that's where they really won the game at.
Speaker 2So the first order of business is rebounding In. Sheflin is the second leading rebounder in the ACC. We cannot allow him to get offensive rebound after offensive rebound. He's very good at ball pursuit and finding the ball, getting it and then kicking it to his teammates or he'll put his shoulder down and go right back to the rim, get his own rebound, go right back up and keep getting these little tip-ins. We've got to be locked into him and it is not on one player, it is on the whole committee. We've got to rebound as a committee and we can't just say look at our front court and be like guys, listen, you guys got to rebound today. No, everybody's got to rebound. All five players on that court need to be locked into rebounding.
Speaker 2In the second orderorder business against Clemson. We cannot start this game in a deficit. We've got to start this game ready. When we went into Cameron we got down 32 points in the first half. That is unacceptable and we will not win any game if we start the game like we did in Clemson. You've got to be ready from the start and you can't have lackadaisical turnovers. What I mean by that is you can't start the game with unforced, careless passes that are just going to be to nobody, that are just going to lead to turnovers, and it's just going to put Clemson in transition and really ignite their offense and get their confidence flowing. Because Little John Arena where Clemson plays, that place can get rocking and if we allow to let their fans get into it and make it a crazy atmosphere and really let Clemson get their confidence up, we're really going to put ourselves in a bad position and most likely we're not going to leave there with a win and the second order of business or going on down.
Speaker 1It's the third order of business and I got to tell you that, yeah, keep going. Third okay, sleep Dog got a hater for not knowing how to count.
Speaker 2Go ahead and so listen, their best player is actually Chase Hunter. He is a very solid guard. He can score, take people off the dribble great from the free throw line, great three-point shooter. We've got to be locked into him and we cannot allow him to get easy buckets. So that's going to be a tough task. He's going to get points, but we can't allow him to get easy buckets, which gives him his confidence, which leads him to making hero shots.
Speaker 2We've got to make everything tough for him and also we've got to start being physical. Okay, what I mean by that is, just because we're a small team and we lack length, we don't need to go out there and get bullied. Okay, we need to go out there and we need to put our elbows up, box out, make everything physical and tough. Just because we lack a little height doesn't mean that we can't put a little shoulder on somebody or make the game physical and really put a lot of pressure on them defensively and make them turn the ball over, which is going to put us out in transition. And we've got to play with an up-tempo style.
Speaker 2We can't allow to sit here and get in the half-court sets and just allow Ian Sheflin and locken uh to really make a huge impact on this game. Let's go ahead and make them work. Let's make them run the court and make them run hard. That way they'll be out of breath. They'll be uh, you know, by by late in the second they'll be. They'll be catching their wind and trying to catch their breath as we're just starting to go get some easy buckets. That's how we win this game at Clemson sleep.
Speaker 1No, that sounds great. I mean they're a complete team and I think we have team that is complete. We have complete pieces. Obviously lack size. I mean there's no doubt about it. It's like don't have a big man.
Speaker 1But I even look at the last game. You just we have yet to see really Carolina, just put it all together. And you, we have yet to see really Carolina just put it all together. And you know, if we put it all together in the right game, we'll beat a lot of teams. I mean, rj Davis is still RJ Davis. Ian Jackson great player. Seth Trimble guy's gone out and scored 30 in a game this year. So it can happen. And I'm with you. Man, just got to get some confidence in who you are the old name on the front of the jersey. So as we, you know we'll kind of get out of here on this, but you know, digging more into that Clemson-Duke game, get off Carolina here for a minute. And of course, by the time you guys come back next week, the Syracuse game will be behind us too. But we figure that's far enough in the future that we'll.
Speaker 1Let's focus on the first one. One is in front of us and we'll chat about that one next week. So Duke and Clemson game is a big deal. Clemson could win the conference. I mean, we're just talking about it here. Right Before the show, before we started, we were looking at Duke's remaining schedule and pretty much Clemson's only hope is us right to upset Duke and then Clemson will win the tiebreak, because they're the only. I think they only played one game this year against each other and obviously Clemson won it. So I don't know what was your takeaway in that game? Did it? You know, dude? It sucks to say it, but damn, duke is good, right, I mean they're. They look real strong and you know what. You know what were your takeaways from that, I think, as a Carolina fan? Or their vulnerabilities, and help us all realize that. Or, and what are their vulnerabilities and help us all realize that. Or help us all just convince ourselves that they're not the favorite to them, when at all.
Speaker 2You know what Sleep? I went on film 68 the other day and I said guys, duke is really good, they're a contender. And what happened the next day? Love it they lost at clemson guys math ain't math and guys. Duke is very good. They're a contender, okay clemson is too.
Speaker 1I mean god, they might win it all, all right.
Speaker 2So if I'm breaking this game, I'll watch the whole game. First of all, the one thing I will say. So Duke has three losses Kansas, kentucky and Clemson and in all three of those losses it came down to one possession games. And what did Duke fail to do? They failed to convert when they needed to. On those last possession plays and I get it Cooper Flagg lost his footing. He slipped on the floor. But listen, they lost that way against Kentucky and also Kansas came down to those last possession plays. They've lost three games in those last possession plays. They've lost three games in those last possession plays and I really felt like, listen and I hate to say this, but you got to give Shire credit.
Speaker 2He's arguably the coach of the year. He deserves to be in the conversation if he isn't 100%. And they're relying on Cooper Flag to do too much iso ball and I really feel like they have a lot of weapons but just giving the ball to Flagg at the end of the game, like they did in these three losses, and expecting him to create his own shot, I just feel like they could get a little more action and disguise an ISO a little bit better. I think they're putting too much pressure on flag to make plays late in the game like that. Now, if you watch the game, flag had some unbelievable plays. I mean he's a reason that this game came down to one possession. He didn't really have his best game in the first half but late in the second, when they really needed buckets, he converted.
Speaker 2But they're relying too much of they're relying too much on flag and ISO and they relied too much on them in these last possession games where they've lost all three of them. They've got to do something better. But Clemson beat them up on the interior In Shefflin, victor Lockton, they went out there and they played like bullies. Now you watch, fouled out 7-2 freshman and even though he has great length athleticism, he's gonna be a top 5-10 pick in the nba next year but they went out there and they kind of bullied him and the reason you know I'm looking at things for what, duke, really their flaws are. I don't really think they handled the physicality all that well. Uh, if you look at the game, con canipple, even when they got physical, he had I mean, he had uh, a grayson allen moment in that game and I listen, con canipple is nowhere he does not deserve I do not view canipple like I view not dirty player, yeah, I
Speaker 2don't hate him, yeah. Yeah, I mean he's, there's some potential there, but I'm not like I hate you, conklin. No, it was just like one of those plays where I'm like he's turning in a little bit of a dookie. You know he tripped somebody right there, got a flagrant one. You know I didn't think that Duke handled the physicality that Clemson brought and I really felt like Clemson won this game on the interior with their rebounding Going inside. Victor Locken had 22 points. I felt like he was too much for him down low and I think that's why Clemson walked away with the dub.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's a great point there on, you know, flag at the end. I mean because I agree with you, I think Shire's done a great job. I hate to say all this, but you got to call it what it is. But yeah, even good coaches, even good teams, when they got a good player, they tend to rely on it. And you just talked about the theme of the show here is this hero ball situation, right, pretty easy decision who you want to have the ball in their hands, right. But that doesn't mean you just put the ball in their hands and see what happens. So, yeah, great game, fun to watch, always fun to watch Duke lose. And you know, I don't know, it'll be interesting. We'll see how it goes with Carolina. And then, you know, we also got to keep. I think the worst thing we could do is beat Clemson and then turn around and let the wheels fall off somewhere else. So I mean, look, we just keep doing what we can do. It is the absolute definition of one game at a time. If you're a Carolina fan right now, you got two paths in One. Make some semblance of the rest of the schedule, all of our result to the tournament and I don't want to get off of you, because the other thing to think about in the tournament is you got a down year in the ACC. So I mean the odds of being able to get deep into the ACC tournament maybe you're a little higher than they usually are, but anyway got the Super Bowl tonight.
Speaker 1Big Hawk, I can't believe that no one gave me credit or thought about my just I mean, sleepster Dom is here of my Kelsey and Taylor Swift prediction from a couple weeks ago. It was all over the news. I sent it to you and he sent it to Johnny Crab Cakes and he didn't even seem to care. Guys, I said three weeks ago what's going to happen tonight? All right, by the time we talk again, chiefs will be Super Bowl champions and Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift are going to be engaged. Man, they're going to get engaged. He's going to propose that to the gang on the stage. And now it's making its rounds on E and all these other weird people. Magazine Dude, I called that shit. I called it. So you heard it here first. Whether you want to admit it or not, maybe nobody heard it, but I certainly said it first. So that's again here. You got any. You got any, any bets on the game I'm. You know I got some squares and some props.
Speaker 2Listen. Dan tried to hit me with uh five dollars. The last five I don't know how many pop listen. Dan's running his own ponzi scheme over there.
Speaker 1I told him I'm not going to be part of it.
Speaker 2I'm not going to do it, big Dan. No, sir, listen, the Eagles are going to kick the Chiefs ass tonight.
Speaker 1I agree, I really think so.
Speaker 2There's going to be no proposal.
Dealing With Negative Feedback
Speaker 1Listen, if there's a proposal, I'm buying fans out there crab cakes, so I'll send a few of our subscribers crab cakes if there's a proposal tonight all right, I mean that's a deal, because I'm telling you it's gonna have I, you know, I really think the eagles are just gonna pound them, but I'm telling you, man, they want nfl. I don't buy into a lot of conspiracy theories, but nfl might have a script on this one. Uh, steve Sharon, 1649 and all the heroes Shout out those are my two haters. I was like I got two, two haters on YouTube. It's awesome. It's like kind of the first.
Speaker 1I was all bent out of shape. Someone said that you know, everything you say is great and that I just need to shut up because all I do is tell run on sentences. And I was like, well, damn, well, damn, dude, I hurt my feelings. Steve sharon, um, I told him. I said, hey, like and subscribe, see if I take your advice. And here I am running on. If you made it this far, you got your run on sentence. And the other dude said something about me saying that miscalculating the number of games left in the record we have, and said I couldn't add. And I was like, well, brother, I got damn, I got better education than you do and I'll stop there. But yeah, I can't add. I mean never came on here and said, hey, this is the damn pre-algebra worldwide. Okay, anyway, man, I was like I was all bent out of shape. My wife's like dude, you got haters.
Speaker 2Yeah, dude Keep hating guys.
Speaker 1Proud of you. Keep hating man.
Speaker 2Keep letting sleep, have it on me, keep letting sleep have it on these.
Speaker 1Keep going, adam, you watch, you got anything else, big Hawk, stay safe, stay safe.