Brice Perez FUTURIST

Curious about the future of technology and how it can revolutionize traditional industries? Listen to our exclusive conversation with Bryce Perez from Google Cloud, where he takes us on a journey from his early days in Central Florida to becoming a dynamic force in Google's Web3 initiatives. Bryce shares how his childhood curiosity, exemplified by tinkering with his family's computer, set the stage for a career that blends technology with creativity. He also opens up about his time at Full Sail University, initially pursuing music production before pivoting to business intelligence and emerging tech, and the sense of community that continues to inspire his professional life.

In this episode, we explore Bryce's fascinating transition from healthcare roles to Google's Web3 team, driven by a passion for blockchain and cryptocurrency. We delve into the innovative potential of Web3 and its application in industries like construction, where incremental improvements can make a big difference. Bryce offers insights into how companies can leverage modern technologies to enhance design, functionality, and even work-life balance, all while maintaining data transparency and trust. Tune in to understand how emerging technologies like blockchain and AI can be seamlessly integrated to create a more transparent and user-friendly future.

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:27

Hi everyone, welcome to a very special edition of the Future Construct podcast. I am your host, amy Peck, and with me I have Bryce Perez, who is with Google Cloud and focused on all things Web3, among other things, yeah, so tell us a little bit about. Well, first of all, let's talk about where we are.

Speaker 2 0:49

Oh, yes, so it's an honor to be here with you. Of course, on the Future Construct at the Bayview office in Mountain View, so one of the newer offices by Google, built from the ground up.

Speaker 1 1:02

It's pretty spectacular and complete with the yellow bikes. Yes, the signature yellow bikes.

Speaker 2 1:07

Yes, yes, all around campus you can choose one. Even a special bike garage for those who want to go park their garage or park their own bikes.

Speaker 1 1:16

Oh, nice, nice. So we met about a month ago and I was just taken with your passion, I mean not just for Web3 and your love of working with your clients, but really just your curiosity about everything. So let's maybe kind of go back to the beginning, and I know that you grew up in Central Florida.

Speaker 2 1:41

Yes.

Speaker 1 1:41

And you went to Full Sail University. But but even before that like what drew you to kind of technology and this brave new world that you inhabit now.

Speaker 2 1:51

Yeah, yeah. I think my life is almost like the opposite of the novels from Lemony Snicket like unfortunate events, but fortunate events series of fortunate events.

Speaker 1 1:58

That's great.

Speaker 2 1:59

So I look at opportunity and I think a lot of my opportunity comes from being curious and it started from a long time ago. It was just little small things of growing up and my mother would work as a nurse and she would leave the house and I will make sure that I will tear down our computer Dell computer and try to hair up and put it back together before she gets back from work. Little things like that.

Speaker 2 2:21

I remember when I heard about Dolby Atmos or actually that's more recent, but Dolby 5.1 surround sound and I was like I'm going to make my own surround sound. I thought that was something you can make and I was like I have a bunch of speakers around the house, so I wired them together, I brought some friends over and I turned it on. I was like, how's that sound? It's like, yeah, it's just loud, it's not too loud. So there's some things that I've learned over the years that, okay, there's certain type of technology, codecs and things like that that are built into this and it's just curiosity across all technologies. I think I get to a place where if I'm focused on one technology too long, I'm not myself, I'm not happy, and even just not just technology, but different realms of just different things that allow me to have taken information.

Speaker 1 3:05

Yeah.

Speaker 2 3:06

So, starting off, uh, wanting to be a music producer, grew up in Florida, uh, going to uh on a tour on to Full Sail University and thinking that I was going to be the next Pharrell Williams.

Speaker 2 3:17

But, uh, things changed, life changed. I moved around a bit and knowing that technology is always in the back of my mind and I'm not sure how I actually would get into that space, it was just something that drive me and I guess, later on, as I matriculated to different, various realms of school and going getting into business intelligence with the massive program that I did at Full Sail University, that was emerging tech and I think that's one of the things that really defined me is, for I get caught into the world of emerging tech, innovation and look for those opportunities, see what's the hype and trying to understand it and try to grasp it to a way where I can explain it to others as much as possible. And more opportunities and more opportunities just kept coming to the point where, like utilizing LinkedIn, ctos will reach out and say, hey, would you like to join my organization and be a part of this effort? So, yeah, it's been an interesting journey for sure, and I think it just continues to blossom more and more as I continue to be curious.

Speaker 1 4:17

That's really exciting. Now you talk about Full Sail and I've spent now some a fair amount of time at Full Sail and they were kind of on my radar but I had no idea of the breadth. You know, it was sort of known, kind of came up as this like great place if you wanted to be a you know game designer or you know graphic designer, but I had no idea of the breadth into just emerging technology in general and that's largely due to our mutual friend Dr Haifa Mamar and the incredibly stellar team at Full Sail. But how do you think that that it feels like a family right and like you still go back? How has that sort of buoyed you in your career? Because you're always coming back and giving back to them, the students who are following your path.

Speaker 2 5:10

It seems in many ways some folks might say you're giving back. In other ways it's almost like selfish. You go back and your fellow peers, these individuals who are graduating, they're well established in their career, they think that I'm cool because I work at Google. I think they're awesome because they're producing massive shows and records and getting Grammys and things like that. And it gives me some type of, I would say, sense of accomplishment when I go back and they congratulate me on the things that I have done. Sense of accomplishment when I go back and they congratulate me on the things that I have done.

Speaker 2 5:48

But being able to speak to students and talk to them in a way where, hey, you know you can do this and you could finish, you could keep going, you can drive forward and you can have an opportunity to be successful. If you take these steps or share my experiences with them, I always feel refreshed when I go back and I always make a relationship. Um, like you know us when we met on the panel for the panel discussion, and it's just different opportunities come up when you build relationship and that's where I think a lot of my love for technology and just all things new and fresh. There has to be some type of human connection into in it for me. How does this make me immersed into the content or how does this bring me more closer to individuals and I look at going back to full sale gives me new breaths, ideas and how I look at the future, and and then it gets me out of my funk sometimes.

Speaker 1 6:31

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 6:32

Going back to visit, yeah.

Speaker 1 6:33

And so how did you choose so, within the entire you know the entirety of Google Cloud and the different areas that Google is helping enterprises, helping startups, helping software developers. Why did you choose Web3 in particular? Because one could argue it's pretty early.

Speaker 2 6:55

Yeah.

Speaker 1 6:56

Yeah, yeah.

Web3 and Future Innovations

Speaker 2 6:57

I think I like the idea of the challenges that Web3 brings, because it is early and I want to be a part of that growth. I think, that said, I said the same thing about cloud. I think I'll take a step back and just think about how my role, how I look at my role, and I compare to a building construct, in the sense where most individuals, most organizations, will call what Google calls a customer engineer. They will name that sales engineer, and every sales engineer, depending on the industry that they're in, their foundation may be different, whether it be AEC, whether it be healthcare, it could be in different verticals. We will say and that's your foundation. For me, my foundation is cloud. I start there, and it could be storage, it could be data analytics, it could be compute, all these various things, even AI, and then you build another layer to it. Where, now that first floor is your customer engagement? What type of customers do you bring in? It's discovery, and most of the customers I I talk to is the web3 organizations or the blockchain, distributed ledger technologies, any company that aligned to that, that, that world. I think it's something that kind of.

Speaker 2 8:03

That came up as an opportunity because I played around in the space. Prior to joining the team, I was in the healthcare black sciences team, which I enjoy. But outside of work I was so curious when I kind of dig into white papers. I played around with sending Ethereum over to this particular layer two, just playing around with smart applications, and I've seen the opportunity. I've seen where I can earn interest like all these different things that I wasn't very familiar with in the past when it came to traditional finance. But crypto kind of drawn me into that world from a financial perspective and the opportunities that it brings, and I think it kind of built a problem there. My interest grew more and more to the point where I considered saying, hey, I want to go work in this space.

Speaker 2 8:46

When I thought about that heavily, I actually came across a job opportunity right at Google when they were actually starting this Web3 team. I said you know what? I'm going to take a stab at it and try to join this team. So the stars kind of aligned. This team was being built up to cater towards customers who are Web3 related, crypto related, and I said I wanted to be a part of that and it's a risk in itself, especially in times that we are and everybody's trying to figure out regulations. But I think that if you're going to be in this new team within Google, it almost feels like a startup, but you have the backing of Google. I feel like that mitigates a lot of risk.

Speaker 2 9:23

So it was a calculated decision. In a sense. It was an opportunity that other people have to make a decision on if they wanted me to be a part of the team. But at the same time, I expressed my interest, I expressed my passion for the space and then already had some type of skill set as for being a customer engineer or sales engineer, consultant and that kind of aligned, in a sense, for what they were asking for in the particular role. So it's interesting how much I actually learned once I joined the team. I thought I knew a lot, but working with my peers who are very specialized in certain areas around Web3, and then also just talking to the customers, and you're wondering like, wow, I didn't think of it at this level. This goes beyond the white paper, this goes beyond what we see and what we use today. So it's been an interesting journey thus far and I think it continues to evolve.

Speaker 1 10:28

I love that and I love the fact too that you know it's how I work with clients on innovation, right, because we're so used to these cycles of kind of incremental improvement and using technology for incremental improvement and using technology for incremental improvement. But you know, web3 is, you know, orders of magnitude, more than incremental right. It's exponential and this is a kind of a moment of invention, and I think we're finally starting to see that when everything was kind of painted with the same brush.

Speaker 1 11:01

So it's like crypto and NFT and Web3 and even metaverse to a degree was just all kind of like, mashed into this mishmash of, first of all, this excitement of this digital landscape and then, you know, kind of a fuel decline around the crypto winter and with meta you know, unfortunately really, you know getting their sort of feet held to the fire by their investors, right, and they're bored about the level of investment which is really what it's going to take, right to kind of build out these platforms. But relative to our audience in the AEC industry, is Web3 even realistic at this point, because it's already challenging to change any kind of the workflows and sort of the construct and especially the data flows. And so is there a Web 2.5 that the industry, whether it's on the construction side of things or whether it's in like building lifecycle management, that you see companies can start to build that road?

Speaker 1 12:09

or even a parallel path to Web3?.

Speaker 2 12:11

Yeah, yeah, I kind of go back to the idea or the imagery of my role being like a building construct. It's often you welcome these certain type of customers on that first floor. You visit that first floor often because the discovery phase happens in cycles. Innovation happens in cycles. I see myself almost as the elevator, taking those customers up to the second floor, getting deeper into the technology and realizing it all comes down no matter how you started on that first floor. It all comes down to how you provide some type of service or remove some type of barrier for the customer or their users or their community, and you're trying to enable them as much as possible.

Speaker 2 12:48

A lot of the conversations around crypto and Web3 have been highly focused on the financial side of things, or cross-border payments and how it benefits that area, and it has not yet, or at least bled over into other industries. There is a company and I can't recall their name at the moment, but there is a company who are heavily focused on helping the industry with cryptocurrency or, I would say, blockchain technology, and they're thinking about utilizing it as for a way to track assets, supply and demand and supply chain data management, and that's a huge thing. So when we think about how Google has helped out in the industry in the past. There's use cases out there where we have worked with like Autodesk, who are known to help build software for rendering and 3D modeling, but then how that changed across platforms where if, basically, an architect wants to share some type of information or render over with another client that may not use the same software, or you are just the idea of sharing that information, and how do you make that secure? I think that cloud has a a impact it can make and it's shown that in this space. Web3 also has a way it can, uh, create the sense of ownership for those who are looking to share the material, share the rendering, share whatever artifact that they would like to share with clients, but still feel as if they have some type of ownership of it. And I think that sitting down with those customers and seeing how those type of technologies overlap is a challenge. But there is a phase of 2.5, like you said, there's that Web 2.5.

Speaker 2 14:31

I think we jumped to the whole Web 3 pretty quickly, but there's a lot of things that has to be uncovered when it comes to how do we make these technologies seamlessly work together, what we have been using in the past, what we use now and then what we're planning on to use when it comes to blockchain, and have been using in the past, what we use now and then what we're planning on to use when it comes to blockchain and, at the end of the day, I think, a lot of our technologies. What will happen is our web applications, our mobile apps. There is going to be some type of underlining, I guess infrastructure that utilizes distributed ledger technology. From the Tezos to the Hederas of the world, aptos, all these different individuals, I think that they're building certain technologies that will help the industry across the board when it comes to architecture, engineering and also construction.

Speaker 1 15:16

Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. I wanted to take a pause here because we're going to take a moment to hear from our sponsor and then we will be right back with Bryce Perez. All right, we are back with Bryce Perez from the Google At the Google, yes, here on site. Exactly. So, you know, on this path to Web3, and really I think it's going to be less about, certainly, defi in the short term. You know, blockchain technology will be more about smart contracts and being able to, as you mentioned, some asset tracking.

Speaker 1 16:02

I think it's also going to figure very heavily in, you know, the construction phase to ensure that particular stages and you know waypoints are met during the construction process and being able to have a seamless way of promoting.

Speaker 1 16:29

And you know I've been saying, like, why don't we just do LIDAR scans and tie payments to it to prove that you know completion right and and if you do that, people will definitely comply. But beyond that, really kind of, you know, protecting the data, first of all, building um, kind of a data pipeline that starts, you know, with with bim and the architectural you know renderings, that goes through the construction phase but then kind of seamlessly moves into this kind of building lifecycle management, which we don't do today. We don't have this end-to-end. There's, like all these stopping points, part of it's sort of software incompatibilities, which is why I'm happy about USD, but we can talk about that later. But how does Google really, you know, layer in those protections so that companies can, you know, feel secure that their data is not being shared at the wrong place at the wrong time?

Speaker 2 17:18

Yeah, I think that it has to start off with certain type of principles, and I think that's usually at the core of Google's values, of establishing certain principles, whether it's around AI, whether it's around how we handle enterprise data, and that's one of the things that we talk about first, usually a conversation about. You know, this is how you manage data in the past, whether it was on-prem or another cloud provider. This is how it looks within Google. I think that how we secure that data, and whether it's data in transit or data at rest, we're always trying to make sure that the data is encrypted, and then you give another layer of comfort with the customer. As for multi-party compute or confidential compute, these are different technologies that allow the customer to have granular control on what they're doing all the way at the compute level and providing the right type of chips. That gives them that sense of security, and I think this will be useful for any industry. But yes, of course, when it comes to the transparency of at what, depending on the level that you want that transparency, but how you want to share that information, to whom you want to share that information, how far and how and how long you want to share that information. When you mentioned DeFi, a lot of the focus is around that and we kind of look at that as for for, or we name programmable money. Yeah, I look at it as for. I think that time will go on where we can say programmable data and just not just say programmable money, um, in a sense, where this particular information that I'm allowing this organization to have, they have it for a short amount of time and some of this technology still exists or exists today in cloud, uh storage, where you have a time to live, and then how you share that data where they want to query it, analyze it on BigQuery, you give them certain permissions and then that organization can decide if they want to make up a license agreement where you sign a license on the back end and then you give them the privilege to look at that information and then you have a certain amount of time to look at that information and when you're no longer wanting to if they didn't pay their license or you no longer want them to have it you can have control from the owner's perspective.

Speaker 2 19:36

Blockchain has, I think, an ability to take that even further with smart contracts. I think the initial phase of what we're doing when it comes to getting people the information or giving them the infrastructure that they need around blockchain, managed blockchain. So we have blockchain node engine in the sense where individuals may not want to manage all their blockchain information, or the blockchain nodes, having them the ability to tap into that technology without having to worry about the operations of it to a certain extent and decide if they want to have a private blockchain or a public one, and then you have the reasons why you want to have either or. But that's the idea of flexibility in how you do it. Seeing these technologies start to come together is the key. There's a lot of different pieces that will come, I guess, mature over time, but, yeah, I think that it's important to give people the opportunity to make a certain choice, knowing which direction they want to use with these technologies in this space.

Speaker 1 20:35

Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 20:36

I do think, though, that this is a moment where, you know, when companies you know come in and say, oh, we want to be in the metaverse, or we want to be using blockchain, or we need to be using more AI, that's kind of the wrong question. I think the question is how do we optimize today's business practices while future-proofing our products and services and those aren't mutually exclusive, but I think, in some ways, are parallel paths, and that is something I've been promoting for a long time is sort of parallel paths to innovation. And, again, one is you have to continue the incremental improvements, right, because you have, you know, stakeholders. You have quarterly earnings reports that you know you'll get annihilated by the financial analysts, but we really have to start thinking about, you know, not just really what the technology can do, but where do we see all of this going? Because I think we have so much power at our fingertips, with all of these technologies converging, that we're too focused on understanding the technology and we're going to get to the point where it's the light switch.

Speaker 2 21:47

Yeah.

Speaker 1 21:47

Right, we don't need to know how the power is getting here, we just need to know that we need power and this is how we access it. Yeah, and then we have a dimmer right and then we know this is how you know. So we start to get more granular, but we're not quite there at the use cases. We're still finding the use cases, so there's a bit of a healthy balance. So how much are you having to educate? I mean, I already know the answer, but how much are you having to educate your customers on just the basic functionality, so that you can glean from them what are they thinking and how do they plug in?

Future Tech and Building Trust

Speaker 2 22:24

I think in this space I I even go to the point where this space, with the web3 space, cloud space um, I feel like a lot of the customers that I engage with from the web3 perspective, they are educating me and I and that's the thing, empowering them to educate me how they view things from their perspective, and then, when the opportunity comes, I educate them on our products and basically how that can help them solve a particular problem. And you know it's interesting. We talk about, you know, just even this building itself. Human sustainability is key and putting the human at the centric focus of everything that we do at Google is a value that we, you know we basically hold in high regard. I think that we should look at how we have sustainability of when it comes to just being overwhelmed by technology in itself and putting the user at the focus. So, understanding my customers customers is key understanding who their, their target audience is and and what are their problems and they, who who can better explain that to me is them. You know, how does your customer perceive your technology? How do they want to see your technology? Like you said it's like? Is that that is your technology getting in the way of them engaging in your platform, and I think of, think of organizations like figure figure.

Speaker 2 23:54

It's known for providing heloc loans for different individuals who want to be able to basically take out loan on their, their house. But the way that they do it, you would never know that they utilize blockchain on the back. They're not throwing it on your face. You don't need to. You don't need to, and I think that's the way we should move forward is a lot of the technologies we use today. A lot of it, from Netflix to Spotify, all these other things. They're utilizing cloud technology. Nobody really wants to know how they're doing it. We want it to work in a sense, and so, from a customer engineer perspective, my job is to help that customer figure out how we can make it work for their customers and make it a seamless experience. And in some situations, their customers may not necessarily be external. It could be internal, it could be a project that they're trying to build where only their employees will actually touch. But that's still important. There's still some type of user, there's still a human at the end of that technology, and sometimes we get too caught up.

Speaker 2 24:52

You mentioned individuals saying I want to use AI, I want to do this. I want to do that. It starts to. You have to take a step back and say why do I want to use that? And I think everyone has to sit down and think about organize their own principles, their guidelines of how they approach technology, whether it's security first, whether it's does this cause harm to X, y and Z. Google will not sit there and force our values onto people, but we publicly put it out on different websites to show our values, so that people have a framework where they can think of their own value, so that people have a framework where they can think of their own.

Speaker 2 25:28

I think more organizations should not be off put by all the growth in technology, the speed of how it's coming at them, but at the same time, there's a balance of not being too, I guess, caught up in the hype of it all too as well, slowing it down, finding a medium where you can build out your own culture around how you adopt that technology and then talk about it, share it, join with other large organizations, build councils where you actually are giving each other advice on how you move forward with this particular technology, and that way we can have more understanding of other use cases out there. I think a lot of times we focus on one particular environment, one particular vertical, one particular industry, and there's tons of different folks out there who are utilizing Web3 technology or even the idea of cloud across health care, retail and construction and other various places.

Speaker 1 26:24

Yeah, he said something that I think is incredibly relevant, particularly to the AEC industry, which is around this kind of human-centric design, and that the technology or the build, the design, the flow of the building itself to the interior design once it's built, is such a critical component, and we have the technology now to really kind of simulate you know how humans will move through the space. I mean, you look at the space that we're in now. I mean there's flowers on the wall. You know we don't have to have these white, stark walls just because we're in a meeting room I have to talk about. This is a TMI moment. So if you don't want to hear TMI, I close your ears, like the heated toilet seats. Magic, magical, magical. Um, I'm going to bring a book next time I go in, but, um, but there's just, it's just, and then and then, as you walk around, not everything is about work. There's cozy little corners. I saw a little like chessboard out there. There's just, you know it's, it's the flow of, of, of it, of it's building, work-life balance into work, and I think that that lesson translates really well to the AEC industry.

Speaker 1 27:35

You know, it's design heavy. They're already in the 3D realm, what I think most companies don't have is that kind of transparent exchange of data. You know, and to your point, it already exists, right, Network protocols, the time to live that already exists. Are your customers afraid of this notion of being much more transparent? Some of it's going to be forced by regulatory, like with ESG goals and how they're maintaining their sustainability and their sourcing of materials, but that bleeds into IP corporate secrets. There's part of me that thinks so what? What if we just pull back the covers and everyone is sharing information in service of the greater good? But how do you even tell that story to a large corporate?

Speaker 2 28:33

Yeah, it's interesting. I engage with various different web-based organizations and some will tell you hey, we don't usually turn on our camera. You can turn those off years off if you want to. So super private. And you probably see it in the decentralized space where individuals you know they're going off an NFT picture and engage only on certain platforms so that they keep their identity pretty private because they manage some type of down and they want that to. They feel like that contributes to the centralized focus of it and I get it. And then there's some that I feel like they. They see the potential of a transparent ledger allowing you to see information and keep people honest. So the idea of trustless in the sense where that information is readily available to everyone in the community is keeping each other honest. I think there's different ways you can approach it. For sure, when it comes to the politics between who owns what and how to prove it, I think blockchain has a space for it.

Speaker 2 29:33

It can be difficult on when individuals are afraid of sharing ideas, but that's where, before you even have those conversations, you set up an NDA, you set up certain things and you come to an agreement. It has to. You have to approach it as um you, you, you're actually going in on into a partnership, in the beginning, an agreement, and then you move. Then you move forward on what we're willing to share with each other. You start transparency from the beginning and then how you use technology to do that and keep each other honest is key. But outlining that is key for most organizations. There always will be challenges. There always be challenges with individuals who are just afraid of giving out certain information. But I think if we're going to solve some type of particular challenge and provide a certain type of solution with it, there has to be a form of communication that involves trust, yeah, and technology can be used with that in a sense, to help build that, that trust.

Speaker 1 30:40

Yeah, trust. Trust is going to be a currency in the near future, for sure. Well, I hate to wrap up this conversation, so we're going to have to have you come back at some point, but before I let you go, I'm going to ask you the question that I ask everyone. So if you could project yourself 2025, years in future, and you could bring with you, you know, any product or any service that makes you, Bryce, just happy or makes your life better in some way, what would it be and what would it do?

Speaker 2 31:12

I might have to play around with the idea of a funny one and a serious one. The serious one I say because I, like, like I said before, I feel like I think why I enjoy google so much is is the offices are geared towards human and making you feel welcome, and and it gives you flexibility and all these different things. And I think the human language is something very special to me. I feel like when you and I go on mission trips and I feel like if you can talk the, the, the language of the people, you can connect at such a level, um, that you just you wouldn't be able to connect with in other ways. So if there's some type of nano headset device that I will have, that not only would instantly maybe it has quantum computing involved with it but not only would instantly transcribe the language, but it would translate, describe the dialect to me, because everyone has a different type of dialect. And then, not only that, it will allow me to understand the language in such a way where I'll be able to speak the language myself, not just hearing it in their, hear the language or hear it in my language, and then I'll just talk to them and they may be transcribed. They may not have the device but be able to speak their language instantly. And imagine having the, I guess, at the palm of your hand or ears, but the ability to speak thousands of languages wherever you go and be able to hear it and just communicate. I love the idea.

Speaker 2 32:36

Now, the funny one is just a little small airbag for those who had all the Americans and the people out there who have stubbed their toes at night. It just pops up on your feet and saves. I feel like I'll save a lot of lives.

Speaker 1 32:49

I think that's a really good one Now, and I love the language idea, but I think it's just gonna be a chip, frankly, bryce, I think we're just going to go boop and then we're going to be speaking Mandarin.

Speaker 2 32:59

Okay, I don't know I feel like I'm ready for the chip.

Speaker 1 33:01

You're ready for the chip I?

Speaker 2 33:03

don't know if I'm ready for the chip I mean.

Speaker 1 33:04

but like V3.0. I am not 1.0. I don't know what thatC.

Speaker 2 33:16

I love technology, but I get a little nervous when I hear it.

Speaker 1 33:18

That's the next thing that we won't standardize is we're going to have different size chips for our brain. You're going to have to pick the version of Android or Apple Neuralink.

Speaker 2 33:28

Okay.

Speaker 1 33:29

Anyway, we're going to cross that bridge on our next talk.

Speaker 2 33:31

USB-E or something like that. Okay.

Speaker 1 33:34

USB-H for human.

Speaker 2 33:35

Okay, there we go. All right, now we're talking.

Speaker 1 33:37

All right, all right. See, we're just like we're making inventions left and right. Bryce, such a pleasure having you today. Thank you for inviting me to this incredible building. I am probably never going to leave, so I'm just letting you know that now.

Speaker 2 33:51

You have a place to stay.

Speaker 1 33:53

Excellent. Thanks so much you.