Stop Asking Kids What They Want to Be When They Grow Up with Guest Julie Lammers

Middle School Walk & Talk

Middle School Walk & Talk
Stop Asking Kids What They Want to Be When They Grow Up with Guest Julie Lammers
Jan 20, 2026 Season 5 Episode 6

In this episode of Middle School Walk & Talk, co-hosts Phyllis Fagell and Jessica McGuire chat with Julie Lammers, president and CEO of Britebound formerly, American Student Assistance, about why the middle grades are a critical window for career exploration. Lammers shares practical strategies for helping young adolescents understand their strengths, interests, and values—without pressuring them to choose a career path. She discusses Britebound’s partnership with AMLE on the Career Exploration in the Middle Grades Playbook, the growing importance of hands-on and community-focused experiences, and emerging trends such as AI readiness and students’ rising entrepreneurial spirit. The conversation highlights simple shifts educators and families can make to empower students to envision wide-open futures. 

Middle School Walk & Talk is a production of the Association for Middle Level Education. Learn more at amle.org.

Episode Artwork Stop Asking Kids What They Want to Be When They Grow Up with Guest Julie Lammers 16:30 Episode Artwork Middle School is a Lot Like the Hero’s Journey with Guest Chris Balme 19:23 Episode Artwork AI for Creativity, Community, and Critical Thinking? Is it Possible? with Guest Jordan Mroziak 28:33 Episode Artwork Dust Off the Mission: Building Trust and Accountability in Middle Schools with Guest Jen Cort 28:34 Episode Artwork Mess Up, Own Up, Rise Up: Navigating the New Middle Schooler with Guest Jack Berckemeyer 25:53 Episode Artwork Keep It Simple Stupid: Intentionality and Empathy for the New School Year 28:34 Episode Artwork Why Don't We Just Ask Them? A Conversation about the Modern Middle School Experience with Real Middle School Students 24:04 Episode Artwork "Start with the End in Mind" - The 2024-2025 Year in Review 21:23 Episode Artwork Not Just a Piece of Them, The Whole of Them with guest Kwame Sarfo-Mensah 36:04 Episode Artwork Ditching "Divide and Conquer": A Refreshing Blueprint for Middle School Leadership with Guests Bryan Rickert and Katie Laird 27:20 Episode Artwork Avoiding Firefighter Syndrome with Guest Darrin Peppard 19:58 Episode Artwork Defining What "It" Is: Managing our Mental Models with guest Clay Cook 24:24 Episode Artwork The Power of Putting Yourself in Another's Shoes with guests Gabby Ferguson and Kristen Engle 18:03 Episode Artwork Managing Student Boredom and Teacher Frustration: We're Replacing Knees When We Need an Appendectomy with Guest Katie Powell 18:56 Episode Artwork Change the Way you Look at Things to See a Different Picture with guest Don Parker 25:53 Episode Artwork Transforming Trauma into Teaching with guests Molly Mee, Dara Yin, and Thaisan Nguon 22:02 Episode Artwork Revisiting the Interview Chair with guest Jimmy Casas 21:58 Episode Artwork Productive Noise: Elevating Student Voice in Middle School with guest Sandy Cameli 26:03 Episode Artwork You Can Only Go Halfway: The Role of Trusted Adults in Middle School with guest Brooklyn Raney 26:54 Episode Artwork Winning Screen Time - It's more than "put the phone down...put the phone down...put the phone down" with guest Patrick Green 25:26 Episode Artwork Students Sound Off on the Modern Middle School Experience 26:21 Episode Artwork Financial Literacy Ed - Its More Than Balancing the Checkbook 32:12 Episode Artwork Back to School Trends 2024: Beeping at you all day long 27:30 Episode Artwork Emerging AI Trends for the Middle School Educator with Special Guests from the AMLE Teacher Leaders Committee 29:35 Episode Artwork When Kids Don't Know How to Attribute Success or Failure, They Make Up Reasons with special guest Miriam Plotinsky 23:14