The Pitt

In this episode, Josh and Jeff explore the compelling characters and unique format of HBO's medical drama 'The Pitt'. From character development to realistic medical portrayals, discover what makes this show stand out and how it offers insights into the high-pressure world of emergency medicine. Join us as we delve into the characters, medical themes, and behind-the-scenes insights of the latest season, exploring the complexities of healthcare, character development, and the emotional depth of the show.

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:09

What's up, everyone? Welcome to Too Much TV. We're back talking about The Pit, the medical drama on HBO in season two right now. And one of the biggest surprises for me, honestly, I don't know about you, Jeff, because I don't really like medical dramas, but for some reason I love this one. Do you like medical dramas in general, or is it like does it depend? What are your thoughts?

SPEAKER_00 0:36

It does depend. I grew up, my mom watched a lot of Grey's Anatomy. So when I was kind of young still, I would like watch along with her to, you know, in the beginning.

SPEAKER_03 0:44

Yeah, but did you like it?

SPEAKER_00 0:46

Nah, I think I I could find it entertaining at times, but I did not like it anywhere near as much as I like the pit. So sure.

SPEAKER_03 0:55

It's kind of like you watch it with your mom, and you're you like it's like my mom with Mamma Mia. Yeah. But I don't really like Mamma Mia, but now my mom loves it so much that I really like Mamma Mia now. I know what you mean. But I also don't like it, but I really like it. Anyway, so for for me, the only thing I can think of like I watched a little bit of house. Okay. I've heard this good. Yeah, not consistently or anything, but it was fine. But Gray's Anatomy, no, because that's just uh act dude, that's just like friends with with but they're just doctors. That's really what it is. But this is completely different. And I think what what benefits the pit is its format, right? That every season is just one shift in an emergency room. And I think that makes it really, really unique. Like in the first season, I was watching, I think I was watching because the every season starts on the beginning of the attending's shift. Dr. Robbie will get into him, but it starts with Dr. Robbie at 7 a.m. and it ends when he leaves. But he shows up, and I remember watching episode two of season one, and it had like a shot of of the Excel spreadsheet that they have in the office or in the in the ER that has like the list of all the patients. And I paused it at like 38 minutes, and I looked down at the time on the computer in the episode, and it was 8 38 a.m. And I was like, oh dude, that's that was the moment you knew it was gonna be good.

SPEAKER_04 2:33

Yeah, because that's that's almost an OCD level of paying attention.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

Yeah. Like, hey guy, all right, guys, we gotta make sure that this is exactly the same time it is, but it is just one full day. And I I I for some reason I find that format works really, really well.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Yeah, I'd say the pace of this show is so much different than most of the medical dramas you'd ever watch, just in terms of like you never stop moving and that comes in. You never stop moving. You're just you're on it's like almost being like on a roller coaster, you know, you're just like you are on the ride and you never stop. Like you are just you're just along for the ride and trying to hang on for dear life as it's moving at, you know, crazy.

SPEAKER_03 3:19

You know, the pay the patients come and go. Yeah. And but then the severity of every patient's problem is so extreme. You know, there's a few, or it's quite a few deaths in the first season. And then there's one guy who twisted his ankle in the emergency room. But then that guy in in the first season who twisted his ankle, he was autistic. And that's also a something that people that they deal with. And remember, Dr. Langton was like, hey, how do you how'd you deal with that? Like, how'd you get to him? You know, remember that? And she like shut the lights off. It shows that that any sort of medical care can be vastly different, yeah. Even if it's the same thing. Like if I sprained my ankle, I wouldn't have the same questions that that guy had. So the care is different, even if it's the same sort of bodily injury. Um, I think what we're gonna do, we're gonna go through all the characters, I think. That'll be a good place to start, and we'll kind of loosely talk about season one, and then I think we'll kind of do a fast forward into season two, and we'll finish with the most recent episode. Um, let's start obviously Dr. Robbie. We have to start there. I love Dr. Robbie. Like he's getting a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 4:34

Yeah, but he's he it's funny, he's kind of an ass sometimes. You know what I mean? Like he's very he's you know what he's sometimes a dick. When it's necessary, but also when you think when it's necessary, right?

SPEAKER_03 4:45

Like he's like, I I kinda he it's a little bit of tough love, but then when someone does something right, he's really good at that positive reinforcement. I notice like when it's something when things go wrong, it seems that he sort of is like, fuck this. He's over it, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:03

Yeah, I think I know what you mean. He doesn't shy away from pressure at all. Like he keeps his cool in some of the biggest moments in the show. Yeah. But he definitely doesn't seem to tolerate the bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 5:14

Like if you're well yeah, do you remember the first season? There was the uh the head of the hospital. Remember, she came down, the black woman, and she was like, We need our patient satisfaction scores to go up. And he's like, they should be satisfied that they're alive. Yeah, 100%. And it's so true. It's so true. You can't, you can't like I I don't I don't envy their job.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

No, dude. No. I can confidently say that I'm glad I did not pursue any of these, you know, a career in medicine. No, man. I this show more than anything else has told me I could not handle that. I I mean, honestly, I do think some parts of the job would be incredibly r rewarding, you know? Yes. Like that there is nothing to me that could compare to the feeling like, you know, you could go home at the end of the day and say, I saved someone's life today, you know. I mean, or m possibly multiple people's lives today. That's incredible. But the pressure and the weight of losing patience that we see, I know it would be, I know it would get to me so fast, you know.

SPEAKER_03 6:18

You think so?

SPEAKER_00 6:19

Over time, like it wouldn't take long, man.

SPEAKER_03 6:23

I feel like some people just have to shut it off.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Yeah, I think we see some characters on the show are really good at compartmentalizing, you know, blocking off when some of the like really terrible things they have to go through, or yeah, when they lose somebody, you know, you have to it's like a an extreme version of that like goldfish mentality, you know, when it's just like, all right, we gotta, you know, we're on to the next one. We have to do our best on the next patient. So you have to block it out.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

It's funny when you watch the show, all of the patients sort of blend together. Like some stick out because of the severity of the situation, but all of the patients just eventually are the same in a weird way. Because I I I think because we're obviously getting this whole thing from the doctor's and nurses' perspective, but it still feels like it's all the same after a while. Because people just come and go. And I actually have something to say about this in the most recent episode with the um with the obese man. And let's we'll get to that later. Remind me, please. Okay. Howard. Oh, Howard, yes. But so Dr. Robbie, he's love him. Yeah. Next is dude Langdon, played by Patrick Ball. Well, by the way, Robbie is Noah played by Noah Wiley. And he was uh he got he did this show because the creator of ER in the 90s had hired or cast Noah Wiley, so they kind of brought him back for this as like an updated version of ER. Right. I mean, it's it's it's perfectly well done. But anyway, um, Dr. Langdon, McHansom.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

Yeah, that was a pretty funny moment since we did bring it up in this most recent episode. Uh, doesn't the girl say it?

SPEAKER_03 8:01

Your doctor's so hot or something. Oh, dude, your doctor's hot. The girl with her tongue half bitten off. Yeah, her friend. He was kind of like that arrogant prick in season one. Very arrogant, very like I am I am the smartest. You know, I think that happens sometimes when someone's very good at their job and very intelligent, they become they can become very arrogant.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

Yeah, he's like a golden boy, right? I mean, he is sort of like the one of the star up and coming guys. And I mean Dr. Robbie's favorite a little bit. That's what I was gonna say. Yeah, he's kind of like the favorite student, you know, or like uh yeah, favorite favorite kid in the class. But it clearly, to me, has gone to his head just a little bit. Because it would be hard not to. He's so good at his job, you know? Yeah, and and but obviously we know that he's had you know dealing with some very serious he stole some drugs. Is that right? I think that's right. I think he was stealing from you remember the Louis recurring character the the big guy, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure he took his uh medicine, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:01

So I was I'm re-watching season one when I do the stairmaster at the gym because no matter how bad the staremaster is, whenever I see anything in the pit, I'm like, holy shit, I I would rather be on the stairmaster for five hours for a whole shift than do that. Absolutely so I'm always like, at least, at least I'm not there, sort of thing.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

And what a what a great show to just make you forget about everything else that you're thinking about. Like you probably I love doing that, you know. You throw on a show like that when you're when you're exercising, and it just you know, you get locked in and it's like yeah, 20 minutes goes by and you look down and you didn't even realize it. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 9:37

Yeah, it's these are none of my these are not my motherfucking problems. All I have to do is just climb the steps. Um, but so he he I yeah, so I got to that point where he steals it from Louis, the chronic alcoholic in season one. A little tie-in to that, by the way. When the drunk girl comes in and bites her tongue and Santos tells the other doctor, hey, do you want to guess his blood blood alcohol content? And the other the one she's the Joy news Joy Joy, yes, Joy. Thank you. Oh God, thank you, Jeff. She's asked Joy, hey, do you want to guess? You know, Langdon is there. Langdon said the same thing to Santos when Louie came in. It's like, hey, do you want to guess? Is that right? Dude, rewatch if you rewatch season one. Well, I dude, I literally just saw it like an hour ago. So yeah, but that's cool. It's like, do you want to guess? And and then that's why they have that look if you if you see they're like, oh, okay. Yeah. You know, maybe she did learn something from him, but she turns Langdon in. She's like, hey, I think there's something wrong. But then while what was Langdon doing? Was he just dealing with his issues? He was self-prescribing.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

I guess so. Yeah. Maybe using it.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

I wonder how common that is. I mean, I guess it I honestly, okay. I think I think everything we see in the show is something that is relatively common for doctors and nurses to deal with because I've heard of all of these problems. Yeah. Like in the in the first season, they have that mass casualty, the mass shooting. I mean, it is a it, you know, obviously it's still a medical drama, right? Where where they're like of course it happens on that day, sort of thing. Sure. But also we can make it. It's really good. It doesn't bug it. Yeah, we let it slide. No, it doesn't bug me either, dude. It does not bug me either.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

There's not like a meteor crashing or something. You know, I feel like you see like commercials for some of the and nothing against those shows. I think they can be entertaining too, but truthfully, no, they're not. No, but I knew, I know you weren't gonna let that one slide. I will say, I'm sure that plenty of people do enjoy them. This to me doesn't, it's not over the top. It's very practical. You know it happens. I mean, obviously in the news, plenty in our country.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

So it's it's it's very grounded.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

Well said. Yep. I sometimes think maybe they bite off, maybe they're gonna go bite off more than they can chew with what they're trying to say about it, but they don't really say anything. Like they don't tell you what to think about the problem. No, they sort of let you do the problem.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

I was gonna say they they sort of let the action speak, right? It's because Langdon is still a very good doctor. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 12:11

Who is kind of stealing drugs from a patient. So it's like it has a I mean, obviously, not you don't do that, but clearly he's still very functioning. So I don't know. I don't know. But Langdon, interesting this season because he's much his demeanor is much more he it's he's kind of like been put in his place, very much sort of calm, humbled, bit quieter, a bit more humble, very humbled, I'd say. Um, but all right, let's move on to uh dude, Dana, the charge nurse.

SPEAKER_00 12:40

Dana's a rock star. Dana is probably she's top three. This is so tough because I knew we were gonna cover characters before this, and I was kind of going through in my head, I was like kind of trying to rank them a little bit, and uh it's really fluid for me, man, because I go episode to episode and it's like that you know, my list will just completely flip around because somebody will have an incredible moment. But Dana, Dana is probably always towards the top of my list.

SPEAKER_03 13:06

I mean she's she's she's that bitch, yeah. You know, yeah. And it got punched in the first season. Yeah. That's again a thing. So again, so my brother, and I think I think we should do this, Jeff. We should interview my brother. My brother is an emergency, he's an emergency room nurse. So he when this show came out, I was like, dude, how close is this? And he said, It is the most accurate thing I've ever seen. And obviously, there's a few things that he said weren't accurate, and I think it was more with some of the meticulous nature of medicine. Like, you know, they they kind of discussed charting this season where you kind of record what happened in the the care, the um, the patient's care. But I think he mentioned something that there's another level to that that they're not touching at all. Because it's not entertainment at that point. No, like no one wants to sit and watch someone do paperwork, and you can also kind of assume that it's there in the background. But no, Dana's great, and you know what I love about Dana, she's very emotional. Everyone's actually pretty emotionally intelligent, wouldn't you say? With the exception of a couple. Like Dana's emotionally intelligent, Robbie's emotionally intelligent. Um, I'm trying to think of Dr. Mohan is emotionally intelligent. Like they understand, like when someone's not doing well, they just check in real quick.

SPEAKER_00 14:24

Dana is very good about that. Dana, Dana will use like tiny little breaks. I mean, they really only get like 10 seconds some of the time, but she will check in on people that she seems like she seems to notice that they're struggling, maybe. Yeah, and she will she'll take those brief pauses and kind of sometimes it's just even a quick, you know, quick comment here and there, quick uh check-in, but she's great. I mean, she's she you're right that she's emotionally intelligent, but she is also not afraid to let people know what she's thinking.

SPEAKER_03 14:53

Like if they're screwing up, especially Well, I think that also with with emotional intelligence, too, you can you can also be emotionally confident in that sense that like you know what to say when to say it. You don't mess around. You can still check in on someone and then also tell someone, hey, you're you're fucking this up.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Her and Robbie are both really good at that, right? Like they both yeah they both will get tough when they need to, and they'll I mean they'll let people have it, you know?

SPEAKER_03 15:23

Well, you know, la last season Robbie tells Mohan, hey, you need to go quicker. Like the slow-mo, remember that? Oh yeah. And he's like, You need to go quicker. I know you can do this, you need to go quicker. And then he comes back like the next episode, which is just 45 minutes later, and he says, he was just gonna say something else, and she's like, I'm going quicker, I'm doing that. And he says, I've noticed, good job, but that's not what I'm here about. And he he doesn't like there's no grudges to the criticism. Cause I think that sometimes, like when I was a kid, I guess I maybe had like a teacher or a coach. If I wasn't playing well that day or something, or or didn't do well in class or whatever, then the teacher or coach would remember the next day and kind of still have like an attitude about it. That pisses me off so much. Give me the criticism and then move on. Like, don't let it interfere with the relationship, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

It doesn't bring anything to the table. There's no benefit to it, you know? And I think they recognize that in the show really well. They can't afford for that, you know?

SPEAKER_03 16:25

No. No, because there's no there's no room for animosity. There are they're already swimming upriver. Exactly. They they're fighting all the time, they're not gonna fight each other. So no, I yeah, I completely agree. Um all right, then I guess we I mean we just talked about her, Dr. Mohan. And dude, I'm I'm on IMDb right now. Are you are you in IMDb too? Are you looking at the cast? Yeah, dude, what the hell? They're they're so good looking on they're all beautiful. Do you know what I mean? It's all beautiful people.

SPEAKER_04 16:56

Jesus Christ. She's a beautiful woman, but she I don't she's not doing too much this season that I can remember.

SPEAKER_03 17:03

No, well, she's a positive person, isn't she?

SPEAKER_00 17:07

She is. To me, I I actually I think I identify with some of uh Dr. Mohan's personality traits because I find that Mohan is one of the most empathetic people on the show. Like in terms of like really she can she can feel like she feels for every patient she treats. So when someone's going through something difficult, she seems like she takes it on herself, you know, a little bit as well. She harbors some of those emotions, but she also stresses me out when when I'm watching her because I'm like, how do you get through the day like this? You know, you've got to be harboring a lot of that. I feel like it's it would be difficult for her not to take it home.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Yeah, I can see that. But I maybe she does though carp compartmentalize. Maybe, maybe she deals with it in the sense that she knows she helped, and then that's that's all she needs, like to help herself. Yeah. Like when she goes home, she's like, I did the right thing, I helped them, and I'll be okay, sort of thing. I mean, I don't know. Um we I okay, I like what you said. I do, I do, I I do like her. I just can't really quite she's more in the background a little bit, not quite at the center. Um Yeah, I think I know what you mean. Then we have Dr. McKay, the ankle bracelet from last season.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

See, this is the I would just while you were touching on Dr. McKay here, real quick. This is one of those where like this most recent episode, she was like my number one. Like she she's not usually, you know, when I'm ranking characters, she's probably like middle of the pack a lot of the time. This past episode, she just jumped at the top. And and that's what I mean. What made it jump? What made her jump? Two things. Two things. One, she put Ogilvie in his place, loved that. Shut the fuck up, Ogilvie. Shut up. With the with the weight comments with the guy. And she but she did it respectfully. She was, you know, she just kind of put him in his place when they were privately in the elevator. It wasn't like she did it in front of everybody.

SPEAKER_03 18:55

Again, again, that emotional intelligence I'm talking about. Don't do it in front of Don't do it in front of the class. Exactly. Bring him out in the hallway. Yep. Say, hey, listen, but we gotta we gotta work on this. Okay, go ahead. What was the other reason?

SPEAKER_00 19:06

Second was the patience and understanding she showed to Langdon. I loved the moment between them when she talked about her sobriety. And there was, I mean, he's there's obviously a lot of tension, right, between the entire group there. They the whole cast is everyone knows. Exactly. Everybody knows, and he knows that, right? So he's going about his entire day, every interaction he knows that's probably in the back of his mind, right? So he's dealing with it the entire day. She knows that. She takes a quick second when they have a little brief moment to say, Hey, I've gone through a similar thing, right? I'm I'm I've got your back. I'm I'm with you.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

I really what I really like about most of the characters in the show is that when they talk to each other, it feels like every character sees the other person, like for real. Even in that split second, you know, have you ever you've had conversations with people, and they're like sometimes you get that feeling that they don't they just do not care about you, they just don't give a shit. Yeah. And but with with McKay and Langdon in that quick little exchange, she completely pierces straight to the heart of the problem and says, Hey, I'm nine years sober. First year's the toughest. Hey, give me a call. Like, I gotta go deal with the patient. Give me a call. Yeah, like I see what you're going through, I'm here for you. And it doesn't have to be this long-winded like speech.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Let me know if you're okay and put my hand on your shoulder and it's consoling for you. It's like, no, no, no. That's not what he needs. That's not what he needs.

SPEAKER_03 20:34

It's just be like, hey, give me a call if you need any help, man. Like, I'm here for you. And sometimes less is more in those instances. Exactly. But recognizing that sometimes people think going over the top is what is needed. Sometimes it is, but most of the time it just needs to be real. It has to be believed, really, I think. Um no, she's great. She, I I think I was talking to Kiki about this. I think Kiki thinks she's like mid-level, like kind of doesn't really think about her that much, you know. But I agree with you. That that statement really helps. And with the larger man, Howard, yeah, that was also pretty cool. Um, all right. Next character, and dude, by far the best character. Like bar none. Do you know what I'm gonna say? No, actually. Dr. King. Mel?

unknown 21:22

I am.

SPEAKER_03 21:22

I didn't expect you to say Dr. King. Okay, yeah. She is the best. She's also the funniest.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

She has she is very funny. Like, but it's accidentally funny. Yeah, I was gonna say it's not intentional, but she she is probably one of the funniest characters on the show.

SPEAKER_03 21:38

That if we that oh, dude. If we go back to season one and that guy came in with like a skid mark or something, he had like gravel in his thigh. Do you remember that?

SPEAKER_01 21:49

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

And Langdon sits down with her and Langdon says, Hey, I need you to take out a thousand pieces of gravel from this guy's leg. As like, Can you do that? Can you calm down and do that? And she just looks at him slowly and goes, A thousand? Like with a smile and like a grin, and he's like. Yeah, a thousand. And I mean that interaction is fantastic. 'Cause I mean clearly she's definitely on the spectrum, right? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I I mean I I I I don't really know how to describe it, but a little bit, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

A little awkward, maybe. Certainly socially awkward. I yeah, that was uh in this most recent episode when she waves. Do you remember when she waves back at the doctor who's assisting them during the the cyber attack? And Dr. Al Hashimi walks by her and she's like, questions? He's like, nope, no, like she it's like this little awkward, like nope, nope. She has some unintentionally hilarious moments like that. And it's just born out of the awkwardness.

SPEAKER_03 22:53

Yeah. She's the cutest thing. And I mean, her deposition is that day too. Also, who the fuck has a deposition on July 4th in the afternoon? I know. What this is one of those few instances where I'm like, yeah, this is a this is a drama, this is a show. It's a show. It is. And they're gonna take those little liberties. I love she's just so nervous about it. She's so anxious about it. I mean, it makes sense. It completely makes sense. It's her first one, but Robbie's funny. Robbie's like, I've had like five or six. Yeah, don't sweat it. Don't sweat it. And he also, again, again, she was so nervous about it. Right. And dude, these conversations, they're not these like hour-long things.

SPEAKER_04 23:31

They're 30 seconds, they're a minute.

SPEAKER_03 23:34

And Dr. Robbie says, I've had dozens of student doctors, and you are one of the absolute best. Don't worry about it. And you know how much confidence that can give you?

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Oh man, that he it he has a gift for knowing exactly what to say in in tough moments like that.

SPEAKER_03 23:49

Well, on the flip side of that though, too, if we go back to Langdon when they're when they're with the helicopters landing, I think two episodes ago.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

Let me rephrase that. He knows exactly what to say in his point across. Yeah, to get his point across. And it's maybe not always exactly what the person wants to hear or needs to hear. I I don't know if it's I think it's what they need to hear, though. You think so? Did Langdon need to hear that he doesn't know if he wants him in? I mean, he's being very direct.

SPEAKER_03 24:16

I think he's very direct and very honest. Yeah. And I think I but I dude, I think this is what this job needs. It needs brutal honesty.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Don't you think? I think for the most part, you're right. Yeah. I think maybe that there's probably a few moments that we can nitpick apart. Like that, the one, the example you use when the helicopter is landing is a difficult one to me because I don't know if saying that to Langdon in that moment when they're about to go into a high-pressure situation is exactly what Langdon needs to hear to be in the best headspace. Because if you remember, Langdon is a little bit off after that. He's kind of distracted. He's clearly like thinking about what Robbie said instead of paying attention to the patient. So I do think Dr. Robbie is still a human and will let his emotions slip every once in a while. But I think that's just born out of the fact that he loves Langdon. He loved, or and he probably, you know, he still loves him as a doctor. So it's like And it hurts. It hurt him. It hurt Robbie. He's still a person, like he can know what to say and he can still have human emotions.

SPEAKER_03 25:10

Well, he also said a good thing before that, though, too, at the same time. He says, I'm really happy you got the the care you needed.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

Right.

SPEAKER_03 25:17

Yeah, you're right. And then says, But I'm then not sure I want you in my ER. Yeah. But again, he didn't say I didn't want you here. He's like, I'm not sure if you're here. Yeah, you're right. There's that, you're right. There's a bit of an opening there. There's a little bit. And obviously, dude, they're of course gonna set up the the whole redemption.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Oh, of course.

SPEAKER_03 25:36

Of course. I think we're all sort of thinking that's where we're yeah, exactly. That's where we're going. Okay, so Dr. King, my faith, I my favorite character. Nice. She also Brian Cranston's daughter, which is wild. Yep. But she's my favorite character. And and it's just because she's whenever she's on screen, I just it's it's fun with her. It's always good. She's she's just very much herself. There's no bullshit with her, but it it's so innocent at the same time. It it's great. Um all right, let's moving on to not my favorite, Santos.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

Okay, good. We're flipped on this one. I mean, she's not my favorite, but I do enjoy Santos in the show. So we can talk.

SPEAKER_03 26:16

I mean, I I I like her on the show. She's a good character, but I think sometimes she can be kind of a bitch.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Okay, yeah. I'm with you there too.

SPEAKER_03 26:24

I'm not gonna disagree with that. So all right, tell me what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

I think, yeah, I guess. Well, if you said you liked Santos for the show, I'm saying that I'm saying the same thing. I like Santos in the show because I think she has a lot of depth as a character. She's obviously been through a lot, right? She Oh, did you notice her scars on her leg? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, that was rough. It's rough, but it didn't really surprise me given the backstory that we've gotten on her so far, right? I mean, she w went through some abuse as a kid, right?

SPEAKER_03 26:55

She Again, it going back to season one, that girl or that guy who fell off the ladder, and and then the wife is putting think god, what was it? Something to raise his estrogen levels, and she wanted to lower his like his libido. I think you're right. It was something along those lines, yeah. She thought that the father was sexually abusing the daughter. But then there was also no evidence of that. The daughter seemed perfectly fine, but she took it upon herself to say, if you ever do that, I'll I'll like fucking kill you. Uh-huh. Listen, man, I don't like child abusers either. But you also have to I I don't know. That's very, very tricky.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

Oh, it's extremely tricky, man. Yeah, yeah, of course. Of course. I mean, this is why I say I could never do this for a living because navigating these kinds of situations without letting your own sort of personal history or bias coming in. Really freaking tough, dude.

SPEAKER_03 27:51

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:53

She's a bit better this season. She's a bit uh less sort of I don't know, sharp-edged. I think, yeah, I I agree with you. And I would say maybe what we're seeing is she came, she kind of came in and was very confident, right? To the point of I would say cocky, right? I mean, she's and this season, I think we're seeing her struggle a little bit more, right? She's got the recurring sort of charting thing and the charting, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

And so we're watching her struggle. She, you know, clearly doesn't think of I mean, she seems to enjoy the job still, but the part of it, like this whole documentation thing where she's constantly having to take breaks and then she's getting interrupted. I think you see her not have that same sort of level of cockiness that she came in with. And I like that as for character development. So maybe that's why I would say I enjoy her on the show.

SPEAKER_03 28:45

I mean, again, a great character, but sometimes I'm like, you know, we talk about the right thing to say and the wrong thing to say. She will often say the wrong thing.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

She just she doesn't have a lot of a filter some of the time, right?

SPEAKER_04 28:58

She just kind of Yeah, but so but neither does Rob, but Robbie doesn't either.

SPEAKER_03 29:02

But I guess Robbie is able to phrase it differently. Yeah. Don't you think that comes with some experience? Yeah, I think that's true. I mean, when I when I was a teacher, I would often say it's not what you say, it's how you say it. Most people can accept things, like whatever you want to tell them, but it's often how you phrase it to them that will have the most impact. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:27

What a good teacher you were. Yeah, yeah, I tried my best, Jeff. I tried my best.

SPEAKER_03 29:32

Such a good teacher, I'm not doing it anymore. Um, all right, Santos, the good character. Now another favorite is uh Whitaker.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:41

So who I've uh yeah, we're kind of replaced Langton as Robbie's favorite a bit, don't you think? Absolutely. A little bit? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

I was gonna say he kind of rose in the ranks over the past two seasons. And what's the time jump between these two seasons? Is it six months? I was afraid you're gonna ask me that because I think it's somewhere in that range. We had to know the date, right? From the first season.

SPEAKER_03 30:01

Because they said something about Pitfest. They mentioned it. Yeah, they were like, Pitfest was eight months ago or something. Right. I mean, whatever, not quite a year, but close enough. But Whitaker is, yeah, he's like the new Langdon. He did does the double fist bump with Robbie. Like I mean, dude, this is what I love about this show. There's all these very little things. You have to pay attention to the character interaction. I honestly, the the actual medical stuff I don't really like, but it's how they talk to each other and discuss the problem and how they work with each other that I find very, very interesting.

SPEAKER_00 30:36

Yeah. Yeah. I think uh Whitaker is another one of those characters for me that I identify with a little bit more. Not in terms of like, I think Whitaker is a little bit timid, is not the right word, but sometimes kind of meek. Like he comes off, he's soft-spoken at times, especially when he came in.

SPEAKER_04 30:53

Not quite shy, but like close to that, right?

SPEAKER_00 30:56

It's in the same vein. It's in that area, yeah. And but I do like that Whitaker will step up, you know. He's not afraid to he doesn't shy away from from the action, you know. I mean, there were he got poor Whitaker. What was that in the season one where he's just getting like bodily fame?

SPEAKER_03 31:15

Like scrubs.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

Yeah, man. I mean, but he's a trooper, right? I mean, he gets he gets through it, he keeps pushing.

SPEAKER_03 31:21

So and he lives in the hospital. Yeah. Remember that at the end? Oh, yeah. Yep. Yeah, that was pretty brutal. That sucks. Yeah, it really sucks. Um all right, let's do a couple more characters because I do want to talk about one character who I am I have a very big crush on.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 31:42

Not Javati. I like Javati though. Dr. Javati, the the younger nurse, the Yeah. Javati.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

Yep. I think uh Javati is kind of fun in the same way Mel is fun. Like Javati has some socially awkward moments. Um yeah. I don't know if you remember from the most recent episode when Is he a social worker? The man in the wheelchair. Um I think he's a psychologist. Okay, psychologist. Right. He comes up and he makes a joke to her. He's like, Do you have any other comatose patients for me to talk to? And the look on her face, if you go re-watch that scene, is like deer in the headlights, like what oh what? She just like doesn't get the joke, and he's like, sweet, I'm joking with you.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. A little dense in that sense.

SPEAKER_00 32:24

Yeah, just so that's what I mean. Kind of socially awkward a little bit, like just 20. Yeah, she's young, man. Yeah. But she's extremely talented, too.

SPEAKER_03 32:33

Very talented, very smart. I mean, brilliant parents like that. Both parents, doctors working in the hospital. It was so funny last season when everyone started to find out who she's like, yeah, she's like, no, I earned my way here. You know, stop. No. Yep. No, she's she's great. But yeah, she also does those goofs. I don't know if you remember season one again. They had that um homeless woman with the kids, and Dr. McKay, it she like burnt her hand. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dr. McKay is slowly working up to saying, here are some resources for you. Yes, I remember. If you're unhoused, if you're this, you're like very, very gently, not because again tactically getting there. Yeah, like this is it's how it's said. It's not from the moment. And then, and then and then you know, Javadi walks in there and it's like, hey, if you're unhoused, you can just go here. Like, this is for you. But again, if someone is has, I mean, Javadi clearly comes from a household of very successful people, two doctors. Obviously, they're not short on money. So saying, Oh, if someone is unhoused or homeless, just just do this. Here you go. This is the solution to your problem. I'm the doctor and let me solve the problem. It exactly. And it's it's too direct, it's too on the nose. Where McKay, based on what we've sort of seen, has had a bit of a harder. I mean, the the ankle bracelet might have been a little much for the first season to show that point, but clearly she has some drug issues in the past, and and so she's a bit more subtle, a bit more clever about it. And she knows how to show it. Again, a great teaching lesson. Because technically, technically, Javati did nothing wrong there. Technically, she gave the pro but but these are the these like the nuances of this job. There's these gray areas of you can't just these are still people with emotions. Not only do you have to cure them of what they're going through and whatever, but you also have to kind of help guide them to their own self-care. And I think that part some doctors just don't get at all. But no, jabati, jabati, I like her. I like dude, all the characters are great. Like honestly, it's the biggest reason behind like the show. It's it's they're all really fun to watch and interact with.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

But my my crush scrubbed. I knew it was gonna be Garcia. After we got here, I knew it was gonna be Garcia, and I right there with you, bud. Bro. Yeah, I know. My God. It's like every scene, too. Every scene when she comes in, she always comes in at the best moments, too. Like right in the middle of the action, just like ready to jump in. Dude, she looks like a Greek goddess.

SPEAKER_04 35:17

Yeah, she does, and she's smart and she's feisty.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

Yeah, like I know. I'm staring at a picture of uh Alexandra Metz. That's who plays her, right? And Bro, I am too.

SPEAKER_03 35:27

It's yeah, that's yeah, unbelievably good-looking woman. Anyway. But she's she's the surgeon, right? I think she's like the emergency room surgeon. I think I think you're right. I think you're right. Because they had that guy come in last season where they were like doing some a tracheotomy or something. He's like, hey, if you guys fuck this up, I'm in there. Like you guys have you guys have three minutes, or um, or you guys have a minute, and I'm um you guys are out. Yeah. And then they got lucky, right? It I really do like how that works too. Like, like Robbie can do quite a bit, and all of them can do a lot, but it will eventually get to a point where, hey, we need to go deeper here. Go get Garcia to do that part. Yeah. It really is interesting how much all of the jobs overlap. Like, yeah, the nurses are in there too. Like they're all doing something to help. And it's really cool to see when the system works. Kiki sent me something funny. She's like, the reason the pit is so popular is that it's competency porn. It's people are it's just watching people being good at their jobs.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

Being really good at their job.

SPEAKER_03 36:30

Yeah, that's it. And it's like, damn, especially when the world is falling apart right now. It's like, oh my God, there are people good at their jobs? Who knew? And it's fun to watch, honestly. It's like it's really entertaining. You were look like you had something to say.

SPEAKER_00 36:45

No, well, you touched on the fact that the nurses were that were in are in there too a lot. And I can't, I'm trying to think who says it.

SPEAKER_03 36:51

I think it's early. Perla, Robbie with Whitaker.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

Listen to the nurses. Somebody says listen to the city. Robbie to Whitaker.

SPEAKER_03 37:00

Season one. He says, he's like, the nurse says, Hey, do you want to eat kg for this person?

SPEAKER_00 37:04

Wait, wait, wait. That's great because I think we're getting a second call back because I believe what I'm referencing is Whitaker saying it to somebody else in this season. So they did it again. They did. I love that. You know, Robbie says it to Whitaker, which is what you're you're referencing. And then I think I'm thinking of an early part of season two when Whitaker hearing two. He may say it to Joy or Ogilvie, one of those two, possibly. Yeah. But it's the he's passing on the same lesson that Robbie gave him. Oh, it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 37:31

That's so well done, dude. Um he's he's um it was season one, yeah. Wiley no uh Noah Wiley, sorry. Rob Robbie is like, hey, listen to the nurses, they know what they're talking about. And it's it's really cool the respect he gives nurses, because I don't think they get as much respect as doctors, if to be brute like stereotypical. Yeah. But there there are the two. I mean, you know, it's funny, man. We haven't even talked about the nurses, so clearly we're a part of this. But the nurses, there's well, no, we talked about Dana. She's amazing. Perla is the other one. She wears. Oh, dude, I'm what's what does she wear around her head? Do I know anything? Shit. I'm very like, you're very tactically quiet right now.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

Anyway. I don't want to make an attempt. I know what you're saying, though. She's and she's great. She's a great nurse. She's a phenomenal nurse. Her and princess, right?

SPEAKER_03 38:24

Princess. And then there's um Donnie, the other, the black guy.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:28

Or he's but I think he's a nurse practitioner now. Okay. He's gone up. There's one more doctor we forgot to talk about, and I think this is probably the last one. It's um Oh God, what's his name? The one with missing the missing leg, Abbott. Oh, Dr. Abbott? Dr. Abbott. Yeah, he's awesome. He's a badass. Yeah. What I love about him is how much he works with Robbie. And it because they're on the same level, they they work seamlessly together, right? Yeah. It's so good. And it's it's cool to it like last season where they he we didn't know he was a veteran for a while. Right. But then by the end, we find out he's missing his leg. And then they're in the mass casualty that they have at the end, or at the yeah, at the end of that season, he's like, guys, we're in what did he say? He said, We're in wartime medicine or something. Like, this is war medicine, guys. No charting, no this. How do we how do we diagnose? And he's like, You write it on their forehead. And Javati's like, wait, what? Really? It's like, oh yeah, we're not we're breaking all the rules now because we're gonna get a ton of these people in here. He's fantastic too. I like how he's also more in this season a little bit. Yeah, because he was the night doctor before, right? Or that he was the night shift.

SPEAKER_00 39:37

I think he still is, right? I think he's still because it he says he's gonna take a nap before his night shift in this one of the it's a cool way of getting him in here because he's he's now a SWAT team medic.

SPEAKER_03 39:48

Yeah, man. This guy, no, he's a he's and then all the nurses or all the doctors, like Al Hashimi's looking him up and down. She is checking him out. Can you blame her?

SPEAKER_00 39:58

I mean, dude, he there's the scene uh with him and Mohan that I think a lot of I've seen like on Instagram people uh-huh sort of fanboy or fangirling over that, like they love the interaction between the two of them because yeah, it's a really they have they're a fun contrast to me in terms of sort of their style. Mohan, a bit slower, a bit more intentional, and like I said, very empathetic. Abbott to me is more with the military background, he's like all action, you know. We're just just decisive and quick, you know. Very cut and dry. Very cut and dry. Two of them are great, and I love that scene because they obviously have a very serious shared care for the patients that they're treating, right? And they may approach it differently, but they're they're discussing the the treatment and how her patient isn't gonna be able to pay for the the hospital bills that he's got, right? That's right. Yep. Abbott, Abbott, when they're when they're talking about it, right, and they she wants um to make sure that he's gonna get the medicine that he needs or at least the care that he needs, right? And and but she's she's really distraught because she doesn't know who's gonna pay for she's like is the hospital, hospital, and he's just like, I'll pay for it. I'll pay for it. Yeah, like yeah, what a great and that's so that scene was so good because they both care a lot, but they just approach it a little bit differently, right?

SPEAKER_03 41:15

And I I also think when it when those situations come up, it's like you kind of admire what the other person has because you don't. Right. It's a little bit like, damn, I I work this way, but look how this person does the same thing I'm doing that way. It it works really, really well. Yeah. Well, I mean, we should also then I guess we talked about Al Hashimi a few times a few times because there's a few other of these newer doctors we should we should touch upon on real quick. So Robbie's going on like a motorcycle trip. Is that the whole vibe? I think so. Yeah, yeah. Like I'm also talking about a psychopath. He's he rides in to work at the beginning of the season, no helmet on. Yeah. Dude, I ride a motorcycle sometimes, and that shit's crazy. Well, and he's gotta know. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

Is he kind of suicidal a little bit? Well, uh okay. I don't know if he's suicidal. I was gonna say he has to know better than anybody. Yes, well, I think to some degree, a lot of these almost everybody here is an adrenaline juncky on some level. Yeah, yeah. It's just funny to me because no one knows better than Robbie what the result of a bad bike accident would be, because he's probably seen it a hundred times. Yeah, and still, no helmet. But isn't that really common? I don't want to stereotype over doctors here at all. But I thought that, like, honestly, I think this was a theme. Sorry, Gray's Anatomy, again. I think that doctors don't like they're they're very good at treating other people. I think some doctors make it patients. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, that was the phrase that that I was trying to get to. So I don't know if maybe it's not quite the same thing, but you know, maybe not the same regard for his own life, or at least willing to take a little bit of risk with it that he would not recommend to a patient.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

My thought was that like he's like, I'm gonna ride this motorcycle and I'm not gonna wear a helmet because if I crash, just I'm gonna die. Like, I'm gonna die.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

And he'll be he'll go out doing something he loves.

SPEAKER_03 43:11

Or maybe he doesn't want to, maybe, maybe, maybe if we really psychoanalyze him, he doesn't want to end up in the ER as a patient. Maybe he doesn't want to be on the other end. He could be on the other hand. And if he doesn't have the helmet on, he's just like, fuck it, dude. I'm out. I'm done. I'm gonna die before we're done. So so he's gonna go on this motorcycle trip, but then and Al Hashimi is gonna take over for the next few. I like her. I do like how much that they butt heads at the style. Like she's very, she's very like optimistic and progressive. Right.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

With the whole AI system.

SPEAKER_00 43:45

But it's it it seems to the point where it's unrealistic, maybe. I think you're exactly right. I think, and that's why they seem to butt heads is she's coming in with maybe what uh let's change everything, you know. Let's change everything, let's make everything more efficient, let's improve each system and everything like that. But he knows what works, right? And he's seen it all. And so they seem to butt heads because a lot of the time he will say, Hey. This person needs a certain procedure and they need it now. And I'm not going to wait for exactly the right test to prove that they need it. I'm just going to do what needs to be done. Where she's coming in a little bit more by the book, maybe. And also, like I said, that sort of AI, like, let's let's change the system, let's make it better. And so they seem to butt heads a little bit because of that. But I still like the dynamic between the two of them.

SPEAKER_03 44:31

And I think it's getting there. Like as the season goes on, it's getting there. And she's very competent and obviously very good at her job. Absolutely. Um, but a good metaphor is like, I think Robbie is trying to keep the ship afloat, and she's trying to make the engine go faster. That's well said. Guys, you got I mean, you kind of have to do both. But it's it's the AI thing is very interesting. Again, they're very poignant about these very modern things. Like, where does AI belong in medicine? Right. If at all, or how do you make it beneficial in the medical field? I I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 45:09

Well, and then the current state of things, it's obviously like they it's a common theme right now that they're struggling with. AI is incredibly good and very fast, right? And it's it's very like for their job, it could become essential, but if there are errors, yeah, it's deadly. What's the what's weighing like the risk of making a critical error versus you know becoming more efficient with treating 30 other patients? I don't, you know, it's a really, really difficult conversation.

SPEAKER_03 45:40

Yeah, we're not in medicine, Jeff. So I don't know. Again, this is something we should, we should, we should really interview my brother at the end of the season and talk to him about it. And then we have the new the newer doctors. We'll get to this episode. We'll probably only talk about it for five minutes, but Ogilvie, Joy. Oh god, Ogilvie. And then there I know you hate Ogilvie.

SPEAKER_00 45:59

Doesn't everyone hate Ogil V?

SPEAKER_03 46:02

I think he's serving his role well. As the hated character? No, as the one that needs to be sort of like put in his place a little bit. He's very talented, he's very smart, and you can tell he's going to be a very good doctor. But right now he's overconfident, he's arrogant, snarky.

SPEAKER_02 46:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:24

He also, I think he also sees every patient as like a science project and not as a person. And I think this stems pretty well into this episode with the bigger guy, the obese man. What how much did he weigh? 474 or something? I think you're right. Like, and do you do water aerobics? No.

SPEAKER_00 46:41

Like you already asked when he's asking about the drugs and he's like, Oh Zempic and the other one, yeah. It's a little, it's a little too like, but dude, remember the comment about the zoo? Oh man. But but to your point, he was actually, it was not quite as insensitive as what I, you know, and me, who's just got the finger on the trigger ready to hate him. And but that scene, that was a good way, you know. I can kind of check myself there because he actually was bringing up a really good point, maybe not in the best way, like you've said multiple times. Sometimes the way you bring things up or approach them can make a huge difference, but he was making a really valid point. Okay, you know, for our forward this science project, how he's seeing it, this is how we would approach this. The zoo has it says it can take up to 650 pounds, right? So he's actually presenting a pretty viable option. Yeah, he just doesn't know how to do it. And I guess maybe I should check myself here again because I don't actually hate him. I agree with you that he'll probably become a really good doctor, but there are moments in the show where I want to punch him in the face.

SPEAKER_03 47:42

Well, I know the moment where you wanted to punch him the most. It's after Louis died. And Whitaker is just told, and he says, Oh yeah, he croaked. It's like, dude. And then and then that gut punch with with Robbie being like like telling the story about Louis and the reason why.

SPEAKER_00 48:01

I got like tear-eared during that scene. I got like tear-eyed during that. That was so well done. That was one of the best. I think that might have been maybe like favorite episode of this season and maybe the show. I'm not even.

SPEAKER_03 48:14

Yeah, I agree. And it it's interesting because Louie, you could clearly tell that Louie was in season one, he was just supposed to kind of be there. But then people liked him a lot, and they were like, all right, we gotta write something in here. But it was just sad, and it kind of also it also shows to the doctors or to us too, and and a reminder to the doctors, you know, we can't judge these people because that you know, that's another thing. You know, Kiki and my brother have both told me that like there's a huge issue in medicine with doctors judging their patients, especially if they're like obese, they will just be like, Oh, this is your fault. And you know, I mean, sure, sometimes it is, but a lot of times it's not. Well, yeah, I mean they're so situational.

SPEAKER_00 48:58

Right, exactly. Every situation is different. And I don't blame doctors. After watching this show, I understand completely how going through patient after patient after patient, you would probably profile some people because you've just seen a ton. And going through your job, trying to be as efficient as possible, you would probably make some assumptions. But I think this show, a big lesson from it is that you can't do that really to be a good doctor. You have to be able to set aside your bias or whatever you've seen before and treat each patient individually, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:32

Well, Howard's a great example because he got into a car accident, right? And then he had multiple surgeries. Yep. He's single, you know. I think I think he's in his late 40s, early 50s.

SPEAKER_00 49:43

Someone had some family issues too. He's like, he's not connected with his sister and it's difficult to get a hold of her.

SPEAKER_03 49:49

If he's in pain with his knee, his parents are dead.

SPEAKER_04 49:52

Right. Dude, I was just struggling. I'd eat a lot of ice cream too. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's yeah, and a lot of it's his mental health.

SPEAKER_00 49:59

He's a nice guy.

SPEAKER_03 50:00

He's a nice such a nice man. He's and it's it made me realize too like you gotta keep your judgment at the door for every single person you meet. This show has actually made me more empathetic a lot. Don't judge people. Like, wait, I mean, wait till they say some stupid shit, then you can judge them.

SPEAKER_00 50:16

Sure. Oh, yeah, judge away after that. But I mean, until then, man, you do, you're right. It's like it gives you so much perspective because everybody is going through something different. And I think you you kind of brought this up at the very start of our episode here, but I've been in the ER before, I know you have too, and you feel like sometimes, you know, depending on what you're going through, yeah. It's like, ah man, I don't I don't want to have to be treated here. Oh, and you also it's hard if if what you're going through is really difficult, it can feel like your whole world is collapsing too. Like depending on what you're getting treated for. But this show gives you so much perspective that you don't know what the person in the room next to you is going through. You know, things could always be more difficult, they could be worse. So it's just yeah, it gives you a lot of perspective from all different angles.

SPEAKER_03 51:01

We didn't even talk about how though some of the patients fucking suck. Well, yeah, dude. Yeah. Because some people remember that all our perspective. There was the anti, oh my god, what was it last season where she wouldn't do a she wouldn't let the spinal tap happen. Well, yeah, buddy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

And yeah, measles. Well, and now that's what we're seeing. That's why Mel is going through the deposition, right? Oh, because some bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 51:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:29

Because they're trying to, they're like suing because of the she didn't want to. It was the ant she's like anti-vax, right? That was the whole thing. The mom was like anti-vax. And probably.

unknown 51:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:39

I'm pretty sure if you look, yeah, I'm pretty sure that's so I okay.

SPEAKER_03 51:42

We're wow, we're reaching an hour here. Look, it's a great show, dude. It's hard to talk about it without like how do you I will say it is tough to talk about though, also in the sense that like the whole like we talked about season one. I have a tough time knowing what episode because it's it's one day. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 52:00

Oh, yeah, buddy, it all blends together for me too.

SPEAKER_03 52:02

The whole thing, it's a it's season one. It's not like, oh, episode six or you know, four p.m. this happened. It all blends together. And I think that also is kind of showing us too what they go through the doctors, like in the nurses. It's all just one blur, don't you think?

SPEAKER_00 52:19

Yeah, absolutely, because you never have a moment to breathe.

SPEAKER_03 52:22

No, dude. Remember Robbie couldn't pee the first season?

SPEAKER_00 52:25

Yeah. And how relatable? Because I'm just like watching that. Like, yeah, when do they go to the freaking bathroom?

SPEAKER_03 52:30

He's like, oh fuck, okay. Um, there's so much, there's so they really touch on everything. I I think what they're gonna touch on, we didn't even talk about how they're going analog or any of that.

SPEAKER_00 52:40

Okay, yeah. Can I just give Joy a little bit of credit real quick? Joy, Joy is Joy is that's another case to me where she jumped at the top real quick here because she was an all-star in this last episode where she like you learned that she has a photographic memory. She's she's literally repeating the board.

SPEAKER_03 52:56

Okay, relax for one second. Very impressive, yes, but I did roll my eyes because whatever.

SPEAKER_00 53:02

She she needed a moment to shine.

SPEAKER_03 53:04

She was kind of in thee or you know, at the beginning, where Ogil V was the star, and now that's kind of switched. Oh, but but no, she's like, I I kind of have a photographic memory. I rolled my eyes so fucking hard at that. I know. I will say it's still it's still a medical drama. Like it's still a drama.

SPEAKER_00 53:27

You can't escape.

SPEAKER_03 53:28

Langdon backing up and knocking like the the clipboards off the table, and Mohan's like, or maybe this is the Titanic. And I'm like, oh guys, shut up. Like, stop. Stop. No, it's so cheesy. But they do it well. It's I mean, I mean, we have said nothing but praise. So I will let them get away with a line or two that's cheesy. Also, I you could excuse it that, dude, sometimes people are just corny motherfuckers. You'd like to do that. Dude, we made some fucking corny jokes.

SPEAKER_00 53:58

You and I make fucking corny jokes plenty. Like, oh, I don't know what you don't know what you're talking about. No, you don't know what you're talking about. Shut up.

SPEAKER_03 54:04

No, but I'm never corny.

SPEAKER_00 54:06

I know what you mean. They do, they they have a couple corny moments for sure, but you're right. I still think it's relatable because it's real people.

SPEAKER_03 54:14

It's real people, like and people are can be corny. So I I can totally see. I have one prediction for the Howard, the bigger guy. Oh, let's hear it. Abbott is clearly going with him because to a different hospital, right? Right. And they're all very nice. And I really, really like that. He was so sad to be there and and just seemed upset that it really, you know, kind of rips your heart out a little bit. Yeah. And it just makes you really feel bad for him and want to help him. I have a feeling that they're going, he's gonna die in the transfer over, and Robbie's gonna find out about it from a phone call from Abbott, and that's it. And that's a part of it. Like, like you see a patient, you help them, you move on, and then now he's just dead. Like he's just gonna die, and then that's it. There's gonna be no resolution. You did what you could, there's no no closing to this. And I think that's gonna be another thing they try to show. I th I at least I I'm probably wrong, but I can see that that it'll be very unsatisfying to us as the audience, but then again, it's just unsatisfying to the doctor, and that's the point.

SPEAKER_00 55:22

And I think whether or not you're right on the prediction, you're right about the fact that that happens in their lives, in doctors' lives, all the time. These guys, whether or not it happens in this specific scenario, they absolutely deal with it. You know, they have moments like that. I think the last thing he said before he had the before he couldn't speak anymore was like to thank them, to give them a really heart heartfelt thank you. Do you remember that moment? Thanks, man. And yeah, that that whether or not it's how it plays out in the show specifically, you know that every day with doctors like this, that kind of interaction happens, and then you just have to hear horrible news after that, and and then just that's it. There's no closure and you have to move on to do your job well. And I just I have so much respect for doctors after this show. It's insane. I I I mean, I not that I didn't before, you know, but this just gives you some kind of newfound like this is their their jobs are so difficult, and the I just I I think it's incredible. I think the show is very well done, and I have a ton of respect for for people who can do this this work. I will say it's really tough to watch stoned though. Who? To watch it stoned. To watch it stoned, yeah. We talked about this, man. I don't know how you do that.

SPEAKER_03 56:32

I that's I've tried too, and it's like I feel like I'm I can't breathe when I'm watching because it's like Kiki and I watched it the first season, and it was the mass casualty, like where everyone's getting shot. Like dying. Buddy. And Kiki and I were like, all right, yeah, this was a bad idea.

SPEAKER_00 56:51

No, you can't do it, man. Because I feel like I'd watch, like I'll watch, and my palms are sweating. It's like I'm like watching with anxiety. But it I mean palm sweater? Yeah, buddy. Clammy hands all day. Really? Oh, yeah. I have them right now, and I'm not even like nervous about anything. I just have them permanently. But so dry. No, I um it's the show, the show is so immersive. Like you just you are in that world when you're watching. And so it's I am I do love this show. I love the show. I don't love every character, and you and I can go back and forth on fucking Ogilvy all day long. But I actually I think every character has depth, every character has some dynamic, some sides that will make them you can appreciate something about every single one.

SPEAKER_03 57:35

Everything, yeah. It's it's definitely to wrap up here, it's not like my favorite show that I'd look forward to always watching, but I always love watching it, if that makes sense. Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 57:47

Isn't it weird? It's like you don't, you're not like anticipating it, but then you get like 10 or 15 minutes into an episode and you're just like glued to the screen. Completely glued.

SPEAKER_03 57:57

It's it's really I mean, again, I don't like the genre. Medical stuff I don't like, but I love this. Yeah, and yeah, it's it's very impressive.

SPEAKER_00 58:09

Fucking HBO man. So we're just gonna suck off HBO on in every one of these.

SPEAKER_03 58:15

Yeah, dude. How many we have a few shows coming up that we're gonna do? So I think, yeah, HBO is was it we might do euphoria. We'll we're still talking about that. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. But uh all right, next week we'll do the next episode. We'll just keep doing this until God, we have a packed April.

SPEAKER_00 58:35

We do, we do. I think the pit will be good because we got through a lot of our character analysis in this one. We can talk a little bit more, maybe about season two and the most recent episode when we cover that. We can actually get into the episode a little bit more. But this was great because I think it was nice to set a foundation, you know. I think everybody here probably has opinions about the doctors and their favorite characters and things like that. So it's always fun to talk about.

SPEAKER_03 58:56

Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see you next week for I guess I mean, what episode is it next week? I think nine, maybe. Is it nine? I think this was eight. Dude, there's like 16 episodes this season. Is that right? Yeah, so it's gonna go over the 12 hour shift. So something's gonna happen next week. It's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_05 59:15

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 59:16

That's exciting, though. All right, well, we'll see you guys next week. See ya.