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Lanterns S1 EP2: Trust Fall
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We're adding a second show to the rotation: Lanterns, the new HBO Green Lantern series. We didn't cover episode one last week, so we're doing episodes one and two together.
Honest verdict up front: it's fine. It started pulling us in by the back half of episode one, and by episode two we're both genuinely interested. We're staying with it and we both think it's going to get better.
Kyle Chandler is the standout as Hal, basically playing a drunk, jaded superhero who's over it (very Hancock energy). The sheriff nails him: he's not fearless, he's lonely. And the man lives in a gorgeous mansion with nothing in it but a bed and a single fold-out soccer chair. I've got a theory that something scared Hal and that's why he's losing the ring — "are you afraid" gets said twice, and it might be a Mjolnir situation where he's simply no longer worthy.
We get into the John and Hal dynamic (is he training a partner or hazing an errand boy?), the fact that they're somehow sharing one ring, the ring charging like a cell phone and telling you it's at one percent, and the apple-shooting intro with John's military dad that was intense as hell. Also the funniest exchange of the season so far: John admitting he might have slept with a guy's wife and Hal responding with pure "wow, Junior, I'm impressed."
Then the big detour: why does the DCU keep falling flat when Marvel worked? Our theory is depth. Iron Man had layers you got to know over multiple movies. A lot of DC characters have a title and a power set and not much else. Though we'll admit Superman and the Pattinson Batman both had real arcs, so maybe they're learning.
Plus: our Manhunter theories (I say the sheriff, Jeff is honing in on Zoe), that excellent interrogation scene with the Harry Potter and Obama questions, and the fact that this show has barely scratched what the ring can actually do.
Also: anyone who has a militia in a TV show is a psychopath. That's just true.
Next episode we're back to Ted Lasso, episodes three and four, out Friday.
All right, hello everybody. Welcome to Too Much TV. Today we're talking about uh the new HBO show Lanterns, season one, episode two. We didn't discuss episode one last week, so we're gonna discuss it a little bit now. And I guess to start off with the premise, Jeff, the premise is there are these two superheroes, they're lanterns, right? You are you're familiar with the Green Lantern, right? There was a terrible Ryan Reynolds movie, what, 15 years ago? Yep, never saw it, but heard it was terrible. Oh, dude, you just have to see the CG green suit. It's like it's awful. Just look it up. It's so bad. Like, remember in Deadpool that he shoots himself before he reads that script? It's very funny. It's very funny. Yeah. But this seems to be a bit more of a serious version of that. And I also think it's more I could be wrong here, I think it's more comic book accurate because I do know there is canonically two lanterns and someone we're talking about, Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart. Um I think this also ties into the DC EU, like James Gunn. We we watched Superman together last year. And I don't know if you saw Supergirl recently. It was terrible. Um but it seems like these this the DC EU is kind of struggling a little bit, and I think this is a part of it, and I have a lot to say about why I think this is a part of it. But what did you think of the first episode?
SPEAKER_00Um I thought it was interesting. I I'm gonna be pretty blunt and honest. I wasn't really hooked for for the first like 30 minutes, maybe plus. I was kind of just like watching, trying to figure out what was going on, but I didn't exactly feel you know, when you watch like even even with even with um pilot episodes, sometimes you watch a show and you're almost immediately like into it, like what you know, what's going on, like trying to figure things out and really getting invested quickly. I didn't really feel that with this, but I will say that I it it started to grow like towards the end, towards the second half of the first episode, and then into episode two, I was I started to to be more curious. I mean, there's just a lot of different like moving pieces right now, and I think that's the point. You know, they're trying to establish a mystery, and we're getting a lot of different pieces of that, and we're just trying to start to figure out how they're connected. Does that you feel that?
SPEAKER_01I completely agree with you. Uh, I mean, talking about pilots, I mean, I know we're the Game of Thrones guys here, but the Game of Thrones pilot is incredible. You're hooked, you're hooked within what, four minutes?
SPEAKER_00Right. Yeah, that's kind of the thing, is it's tough to conspiracy.
SPEAKER_01This has been an hour and a half, and I am I'm struggling to care. Like it's not bad. It's not it's not bad.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01However, and it's still, I think it's certainly worth continuing to watch. However, i it's gotta get going here a little bit. And I will say, I think the standout star of the whole thing is um Kyle Chandler as Hal. Just kind of being an asshole. And his character is interesting too, because there's that projection in the first episode where he's much nicer. It makes me wonder what happened for him to be so resistant to this. He almost seems like I don't know, like the drunk superhero who's just over it.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01You ever see Hancock?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, sure. Will Smith. Yeah, great. Yeah. Very similar vibe. Yeah, where it's kind of just like doesn't really give a fuck and is obviously kind of resenting the idea that he's he's gotta train and mentor this new guy, and it's like, uh, you know, he does it doesn't seem like he's into that. Also doesn't seem like he cares a lot about like himself. I don't know. It's interesting the way that um the sheriff talks about him because she's like, he's lonely. Like he's not fearless, he's lonely. And he does kind of seem like a broken person that way.
SPEAKER_01Well, if you look at the second episode when um John goes into the house, his house, his giant mansion, there's nothing in it except for a bed.
SPEAKER_00Did you notice there's like a there's like a um a little like lawn chair over in the one room? It's like this beautiful, gorgeous house. And then if you look over, there's like you know those fold-out chairs that you put on like a like there's like one of those in the Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's like one of those in the room next to, you know, in this glorious house. There's like a there's like a fold-out soccer chair sitting in the nose. Okay, yeah. What is this dude doing?
SPEAKER_01And I the problem with this, man, is I think that they're going to give the backstory behind him, and it's just gonna be this like cliche, oh, the family member died, girlfriend, wife, or he made a mistake as the Green Lantern and it caused someone to die, and now he's just kind of reluctantly still doing it. I mean, he even brings the suit back. John brings the suit back, and he's like, Why'd you bring the suit? I don't want the suit. Even though I will say the suit does look pretty cool.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay. Maybe you're right. No, dude, I it's not bad. It's just like maybe I need to I I think I need to see him in action in the suit a little bit more. A little more superhero action-y stuff. Because right now it looks like a costume. It kind of looked like a costume when he first put it on, but I also think that that might be the point, too, is it's sort of like it, you know, he's he's putting on the old outfit and like it's kinda taken a second for him to get back into it. You know, it's like it's like he clear like everything you said is right. It sounds like he's maybe been jaded by something in the past and obviously isn't super into, you know, the traditional like wear the suit and be the superhero. You know, he's like Which he might have been at first. It seemed like Yeah.
SPEAKER_01It seemed like he was jaded towards this. Yeah. And now he doesn't really want to do it anymore. But then it's it's but he still seems to have some sort of pride around it because he doesn't really seem to want to give it up. Right. Like he's he says, you know, this is mine, this isn't yours. I don't know. He almost it he's like he's like begrudgingly training John because someone told him to.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. It's a really weird dynamic that they're I mean, at this point, and again, I don't know like the canon that is from the comics, so I don't know what's gonna happen, which is probably good.
SPEAKER_01My knowledge is very thin, Jeff. Okay. Like I don't know much either.
SPEAKER_00I think it's a weird dynamic that there's one ring, right? Like, at least right now, it's funny that Oh, that they don't both have one? Yeah, they're if they are, you know, the Green Lantern, even if John is being trained, it's like it's funny that they're sharing the ring, you know? It's it's kind of like, I mean, at some point, does John get his own ring or is he just gonna get the ring? I don't know. It's a weird, you know, like if if if he's being mentored, is the plan that he replaces how or that he gets his own ring eventually? He should have like a training wheel ring. Yeah, give him like a wooden ring.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's light green, you know, something stupid like that. Um but yeah, I mean he doesn't he completely doesn't trust John though at all. And John likewise is the same way. I don't know. I watched the trailer again, and but of course the trailer always gives you these like juicy parts. Yeah. It's like he's you're not he's not you're not training him to join you, you're training your replacement. Okay. So again, I wonder his whole attitude towards this thing. I wonder if that goes against like you know, the guardian's rules that Hal's attitude right now kind of sucks. Right. And that's why he's being replaced.
SPEAKER_00Well, uh you brought up something, the the um the like vision, the hologram version of Hal, I think they call it a hologram, right? It's funny. Did they really? They didn't. John calls him a hologram.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, dude. That's okay. I I missed that one. That's funny.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um in that hologram version of him, he says, like, there's they don't usually do this, right? So this is like a new policy that's been put in, this training program. The training. It's not something that they've always done. Yeah, yes, right. So that's not something that they always did. It seems like they've established that now. Yeah. Um and it's really funny. I I do like that they showed us John like idolizing Hal in the beginning. In the beginning. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So it's almost like he's been like groomed to be this. And also he's also facing the same disappointment that that like Hal is facing. Like Hal seems to be disappointed in like the concept of the Green Lantern. Now he's been doing it for 20 years. And John is now dealing with the same thing of being disappointed, like, don't meet your heroes.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Like he imagined that this would be some glorious position to be part of the like Green Lantern Guild or whatever they're called. And like now it's like, oh, this isn't great. Like I'm being trained by this like deadbeat lantern. Like what? Yeah, completely.
SPEAKER_01Um can we talk about that intro though, real quick with the uh the dad, the military dad? Oh, shooting the apple? Yeah, what the fuck was that?
SPEAKER_00Dude, I don't fucking know. That was intense as shit. Like, yeah, I didn't but that's what I'm saying. Like, was he was he always he was being like groomed for this, like trained, like trained for it from a young age?
SPEAKER_01I think so. And I I think I just came up with a small theory here. He says, Are you afraid? Right. And then Hal says the same thing when he gets the ring, are you afraid? Right, right. Did something scare Hal? And that's why he's losing the ring.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's a good no, that's a good idea. I like that idea.
SPEAKER_01Some sort of fear entering where he is now lost, like unpeared.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Like not worthy of the lantern. Yeah, kind of like Mjolner for Thor. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of. Yeah. Um other fun comments for you. Uh uh, like just you know, generally about the Green Lantern universe and and the idea behind the you know, the figure, I didn't realize to charge up the ring like it's a cell phone.
SPEAKER_01Like in the lantern, you point it into the lantern. You gotta bring your like a charger everywhere with you.
SPEAKER_00Well, and it even it says like lit, you know, ring at 1% power.
SPEAKER_01It's like I gotta admit, of all like the powers and stuff, I don't know, the Green Lantern one, very middle of the road for me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I it's one of those really interesting powers because it has such potential to be awesome at moment. You know, there are moments where it's really cool. I loved, you know, you referenced Superman, um, the like the Green Lantern in that.
SPEAKER_01By the way, that's the third Green Lantern in this universe. That Green Lantern's gonna show up in this show.
SPEAKER_00I I figured, I figured, you know, since there can be multiple um that you know we could see crossovers and things like that. I love that version where like he's you know making stuff come out of the ground. It's like you know, flipping off the middle fingers to the text. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like though that that scene was fun. I think Green Lantern can be really fun, but it's also very funny watching a show just completely central around the Green Lantern and seeing like the limitations that we're seeing, and it's like, huh, this this is really cool at times and it kind of sucks at other times.
SPEAKER_01I think I know what they're trying to do with this show is I think that they're trying to build a universe the same way Marvel has. Problem is Marvel, I think, has been significantly more successful than DC. Yeah. DC has made some really cool things. I mean, the most recent Batman movie was amazing. Um, I thought the Superman movie was a lot of fun. Superman movie was very fun, yeah. But so far the universe hasn't seemed to take off. Like they did a couple in the 2010s, they did um Man of Steel, then they did Batman versus Superman, then they did The Justice League and Aquaman and all that stuff. But for some reason, those movies seemed to fall a little flat compared to like the Avengers. Because the Avengers seemed the Avengers seemed to be this like cosmic universe that was it it seemed to have a lot more semblance to it, and it felt more alive, maybe, with the the sense of history. I I don't know, there just seemed to be a bit more in Marvel. And you know, DC has kind of floundered with that. And you know, Marvel also has a bunch of TV shows, and to be fair, I've only watched like one of them, and to be also fair, they're not very good. But with this, I think they're gonna try to do something like the Manhunter stuff. Do you know anything about that in the DC universe at all?
SPEAKER_00Not really, other than like the stuff I've learned from the show.
SPEAKER_01You've never heard of Martian Manhunter?
SPEAKER_00I've heard that name, yeah. I've heard the name. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I think that's who this is. I think that's who they're looking for. The problem is, Martian Manhunter is like the leader of the Justice League. Like Superman, Batman, he's the in charge.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01But I I think this is probably what they're probably doing with this is they're gonna set up the whole Justice League thing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. I yeah. Your point about Avengers is is like the way that they kind of establish certain characters first and have them be there in their own the way they they did like Iron Man, you know, or Captain America. They have their own standalone movie where you really get invested in the character, and then when they bring the sort of culmination of all of them together, it's like this epic moment where it's like, oh, I know all these people, and now they're together and now they're fighting on the same side. It's really cool.
SPEAKER_01Uh to be I don't know, man. Like it's funny. DC did the same thing. Wonder Woman, Superman, Aquaman. They did all of those. Why did that fall flat and this and Marvel did well? Like, I I just don't quite honestly, maybe it's the bit of the writing and the directing. I mean, they Zack Snyder did Justice League, and like, listen, I think Zack Snyder makes very cool looking movies, but they're like puddle deep.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I do. I do. I think you're right. I think that's a big piece of it. Is like there's just not a ton of depth behind a lot of the DC characters. It feels like it is just very surface level. You don't get the feeling, like with I hate to keep comparing this to Marvel, but I think we're gonna do it, you know. I think it's inevitable, man. It is inevitable. Like with a character like Iron Man, there were so many layers to that character, and you felt like you really got to know him over the course of those movies, even you know, just even his individual movies. It was like this was a complicated character that you couldn't quite always figure out. Like he he had new angles and things that were introduced, and you really enjoyed getting to know the character over the course of those movies. And it felt like DC, it's like they have their title and they have what they are as a hero, and there's just like not always a lot behind that. Not a lot of growth. Yeah. Like even a character like Batman that is awesome, that does have layers, when he's in these movies, a lot of times he's like, it's just Batman. Like it's just it's just Batman. It's just what it is what he's doing.
SPEAKER_01But I think I think they're trying to change that a little bit. I mean, the most recent Superman, even within the movie, had quite a nice little character arc where he goes and believing in Krypton being the best, and then by the end he realizes his parents told him to conquer Earth. He has to like deal with that as on a personal level. So, and and the Batman, the one we saw. I don't see, I don't actually think Robert Pattinson's Batman is in this universe. See, it all gets a little too much here sometimes. But let's just say he is. I don't think he is, but I mean maybe because then the penguin too. What's maybe HBO? I don't know. Whatever. I don't know. But but Robert Pattinson's Batman is the same thing. He kind of is very angry at the beginning and very, very violent. And he slowly learns and changes throughout that movie. So maybe DC is slowly learning, but I don't know, man. With the hype around Avengers Doomsday, I uh I just don't know if DC can pull it off.
SPEAKER_00It's gonna be interesting. And I think uh to be fair to DC, it we They're trying. They're trying, and I definitely am looking at it from the angle of we already went through this process with Marvel, like we were talking about. So it's gonna be interesting once you and I watch the full lantern show. Maybe we watch a few more DC produ you know, you know, things that are in the DC world. Maybe we start to get a little bit more invested over time. I mean, we're looking at one after the whole thing is sort of played out and now it's well established. The other, DC has taken some shots at this and now we're seeing another iteration of it.
SPEAKER_01So I think the issue is though, dude, like the older I get, I I like superheroes. Don't get me wrong. I don't like them nearly as much as I used to. Sure. Yeah. I think I'm 33. We're a changing audience. I mean, we yeah, we are literally, you know, we've grown up with a lot of this stuff. And I will say, I d this is off topic, but I totally love the last Spider-Man movie. So there still is a lot of potential within these movies and and TV shows to be very engaging and a lot of fun. Yeah. I think that it's just a little bit harder now for me, at least.
SPEAKER_00I think so too. I think so too. We're just how many times can you get reinvested in a new, you know, story like that? Especially. And eventually there nothing is really ever that new. Right. That's the problem, is like if you've heard several different versions of the same story, like trying to re-enter another one feels like okay, like we're doing this again. And yeah. Yeah. So um let's let's talk about uh some of the beginning of lanterns here a little bit more, because uh I'm interested in your take on a few different characters. We met uh a few people from the town, right? So this is what's the Rushville? What's Rush? Rushville, Nebraska. Rushville, Nebraska. Yeah, I'm looking, hold on.
SPEAKER_01I think they literally, I think, picked middle of nowhere.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but we have some what seem to be uh uh minor characters who have been introduced in the town. Um the sheriff we already named, uh the lawyer, the lawyer, her husband, the lawyer. Funny dynamic there, right?
SPEAKER_01Her um the lawyer's father, the psycho militiaman.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Uh there, I know their last name. Hold on off. He's I think he's William, William Macon. And Macon. And then Zoe is his wife. Zoe, the one that John slept with John bangs. Yeah. Interesting. Immediately. Immediately, within like five minutes.
SPEAKER_01I will say that was the funniest interaction between Hal and John. And he's like, I uh I think I might have slept with his wife. Yeah. And Hal's like, what do you mean you think you did? You either did or you didn't. He's like, I slept with his wife.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And Hal was like, Wow, Junior. Yeah, I'm impressed. It's just, it's, and it's so Hal, too, because John is expecting like him for him to be upset. But that also clearly shows that John has no clue anything about Hal and was raised by that, you know, military man, very strict, very stern. Hal isn't like that at all. Hal, I mean, Hal's kind of an asshole, but yeah, he's not that disciplinarian at all.
SPEAKER_00Right. Yeah. It is, it's really funny watching their relationship through like the first two episodes when because that whole business of sending John, you know, to get the lantern and he gets the suit and stuff. He does feel like right now it's like, are you training him or is he kind of an errand boy? Like, you know.
SPEAKER_01I think it's a bit of both. I I think it's also a bit of like humiliation and like I can do this. A little hazing. I am the lantern. Um fetch my things. Yeah, fetch it. Squire. Um so I actually I have a theory. I think one person we've already seen is gonna be the manhunter. Oh I think we've already met them. Oh and I'm I and I want to I want your guess as to who you think it may be.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Uh well, I'm a little hesitant here, and I'll just give you 10 seconds of it. They've said him, right? I'm looking for him like a hundred times. Like Manhunter. I'm kind of curious if it's gonna be a female. I think it's the sheriff. Because it's like we keep saying, like, we're gonna look for him. We gotta find him in 48 hours. Like, and I feel like they're doing it on purpose, you know, where it's like like in per Purposeful misdirection and like shifting your like, oh yeah, we have to find him. Like, is it William? Is it his son? Like, and then it's gonna be it's gonna be like the sheriff.
SPEAKER_01I think it is gonna be the sheriff or something. Or what may happen is like halfway through the season, the manhunter embodies a character we've met. And then they're gonna subtly change. For a while, I thought it was the lawyer, because the lawyer in the second episode kept telling how, hey, you can um you can like leave. Oh and it was a little too heavy-handed. Yeah. So I wonder if it was him. I then or the militiaman with all of his guns and his cowboys.
SPEAKER_00I think it's dude, I and the through this conversation, I'm honing in on Zoe. I think my bet is going to be on Zoe. His wife. Because it would be very interesting if John like slept with her off the jump.
SPEAKER_01But she's like very white.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. And it would be weird.
SPEAKER_01Interesting.
SPEAKER_00It would be funny if like William is like obsessed with finding them and then it's his wife. Like, is that about that? But I agree with him too. I think it's going to be somebody like that.
SPEAKER_01I think it might be a woman. So I agree with you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That's interesting.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Uh I'm I'm I'm I am interested in seeing how that plays out. I think um as this goes on, you know, we're we're it is picking up steam, you know, by episode two. It's starting to it's starting to reel me in. That's what I was trying to say at the beginning.
SPEAKER_01It's starting to reel in. I was I was definitely interested at the end of episode one with that interrogation scene. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I thought that was very, very good. I think that was when it started to like pull me in. Like when I was saying I wasn't really into it until sort of the the end or like the middle and end of that episode one. That interrogation scene was pretty good. That was pretty good. What school did Harry Potter go to?
SPEAKER_01What are your thoughts on Barack Hussein Obama?
SPEAKER_00I love I love um now in the world that we live in where everything, you know, this AI is being integrated into everything. It felt like the alien was like tapped into AI. Yeah. It was like an A, it was answering the way like an AI like an There's some controversy around his I loved that answer. This dude that's from the middle of Nebraska.
SPEAKER_01You're a trucker in the middle of Nebraska, and that's the only thing you can say about Barack Obama. Yeah, that was pretty good. It was so poignant. And like it I thought that was that was great. And then the reveal that he actually was an alien. And I like the little bubble he made. Like I it was like they really have been a little sparing with the powers with with the lantern itself. And I think they used it a lot in the first episode, and then they didn't really at all in the second one because they had the whole, you know, we need to charge it. Uh but um the explosion, yeah, and then him like hugging the the you know green ball. Yeah. It was very good. I got a question. I got a question for you though. So when John gets kidnapped um by those people and he gets injected in the head, are those are aliens, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Big time. And they're the ones they were the four ones that were shot. Part of the group of the four that were shot at the football field, right? I think.
SPEAKER_00I I think so. I think so. I think that's the idea. And it feels like and I that that is where I'll compliment the storytelling so far, is that we have sort of different groups, like that one. Uh I I don't know if his people have like a name that we know yet. Um, but I think that guy where I was not paying attention. I did not hear that. Okay. I know the guy's name is Anton. Um his group has obviously been through like some extremely traumatic events that he shows John. And so we're kind of in that position where as the audience, we're sitting there going, like, who's who's the bad guy? Like, are we sure we know who like the villain is? It's a little fun. Are we the baddies?
SPEAKER_01I think that is probably the most intriguing part right now, is we're not really sure what's who what's what, because right now it seems that you know the militiaman is the bad one. But then he also caught the aliens. But is his benefactor the manhunter? Right. Could then the benefactor be the manhunter as his wife? Yeah. Yeah. And then there's that other the um the alien technology too that they did to catch them.
SPEAKER_00The metal the metal detector. Yeah. Yeah. That was interesting. And that one looks like he I mean, that was looked very advanced. Like that was alien technology. And it's like, what do you think about that?
SPEAKER_01We do have a couple mysteries here. And also the ending of the first episode with Hal and the winter stuck in the in the football field. Yeah. So there are things that are going on, and I wonder if that's the ending. And I do wonder if this is just going to be a one-season thing and like Hal dies at the end of this. I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_00It does feel like they kind of they're they're almost um telling the story in reverse. Or I I like what they're doing with the timelines where it's like, okay, so 2026, like present time, Hal is dead in the football field. It I I thought he was shot in the head. That's what it looked like to me when you know he's got like a bullet, what looked like a bullet wound in the head or something. He's already gotten shot, dude. Well, yeah, he's been shot now. Yeah. But we um well, it's interesting that John is like going back to uh Rushville, and you know, the he greets the sheriff like they're old friends and stuff, and he clearly isn't it or it seems like he isn't there anymore. He also looks at did you think that what he was passing by was like the remains of the ranch or something? It's clearly he's he's he's he's paying attention to something as he's driving. They make a point to like hold the camera on it as he's looking at it as he's driving by, and it looked like it might have been the remains of like a fence, which I thought could have been like the fence from the ranch. Oh, I didn't pick up on that, or I'll have to watch it again.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Interesting.
SPEAKER_01And so I wonder if like that's you know, like the aftermath of something that's I mean, dude, I guarantee that the climax of this show is gonna be something on the ranch.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I mean, everything is kind of pointing towards the ranch right now. Because, dude, no one when was the last time you saw a militia in a TV show and they were the good guys? No. Anyone who has a militia is a psychopath.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01This guy is cuckoo. Yeah. And obviously, I I mean, I think he's hoarding some alien tech, but then where did he get it? Yeah. And then they have Sinestro.
SPEAKER_00I know Sinestro. I know Sinestro Sinestro from playing uh Injustice. Yeah, fucking great game, dude. I kick your ass all the time. Um Okay.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Superman was OP in that game, I will admit. Um it is funny how Hal just flies there. Like, where was that? Oh yeah. Is that like a different planet? Did he just fly to a different planet? I think so. Casually. With but he had you know he had the suit on, so he was he was like prepared. I don't know. You know how hard it would be to fly to a different planet? I I don't know. Like mathematically speaking.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, I know. Well, yeah. But we have to put aside those things for these types of shows.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So I'm gonna get I it's been I think right now the show has been fine. I am gonna keep watching and I want to keep watching, but it isn't as intriguing as I wanted it to be. And again, I wonder if it's just the superhero thing, man. I wonder if we've just we kind of already know what's going on in this universe. Like Superman is in this universe. So I mean, who knows?
SPEAKER_00I'm interested. I'm interested in a few things. I think the bird thing is kind of cool. Um, like I did.
SPEAKER_01Oh, where he's really advanced at it or something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I I kind of I don't know about you, I kind of clocked that by Hal's reaction when Hal is like, because I thought it was gonna be goofy at first. You know, he's thinking about flight, and then like, oh, he creates a bird, like, oh moron, no, you didn't fly, you created something that can fly. That can fly, yeah. But Hal obviously has sort of a reaction. If you watch him in the scene, he's like hyper focused on the bird, and he's like, wait, what? Like you can tell he's trying to play it off, but it's like, wait a second.
SPEAKER_01This guy actually might be better at this than me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, dude. And the idea that he's doing it without like he's keeping it alive without the ring on.
SPEAKER_01Like, to keep concentration, he got knocked out like three times.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Did you notice that?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01I'm just gonna gloss over that. Or that's how strong he's gonna be.
SPEAKER_00I think that's how powerful he is. Yeah, I think that's how powerful he is. If the bird is, you know, he's still connected to the bird. I don't I don't I don't really Whatever. Yeah. But hey, hey, uh, maybe that is how advanced he is, is just that the bird can exist even. Find out, I'm sure. Yeah, I think so. I think so. And it's funny that he uh he he kills it, whatever you want to call it. He ends the bird, like, you know, and he's like, it's just a bird. And I thought that was a kind of a cool touch too, because it's like, okay, so is this like, does he? No, I think there's something deeper there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I think I think John is also as much of a mystery as Hal is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. So I'm intrigued. I'm with you. I think it's fine. I I'm intrigued. I'm definitely gonna keep watching. I think, you know, for anyone out there who's who's looking for a new show to watch, I would give this a try because it has been fun. And I think it's I actually think this is one of those where as much as I will say I was kind of lukewarm on it, I I think it's gonna get better. I actually think I have high hopes for the show.
SPEAKER_01I I I think so too. I think it problem is that I just wonder if it's gonna be one of those things where it takes too long.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I hope maybe. Maybe, maybe, but I think I I feel like the direction we're going, it's gonna start ramping up. Like, because I like that by episode two, we've gotten to the fact that John may have more power than we like thought. Like, John is potentially really advanced, and so we might be getting to that quickly. I hope they will get to that quickly.
SPEAKER_01They're also really using the ring and its powers very sparingly right now. Yeah. It's been it it we really haven't seen it used to its fullest potential. And that I think that that is gonna be the really cool part, I think.
SPEAKER_00I agree. They have a lot of like ammo in the tank for showing cool scenes with the ring because they haven't done a ton. You're right. Like the little bubble thing is cool, but it's like I bet they could do some pretty awesome shit with the ring. Well, I'm I'm looking forward to it. I think it'll be good.
SPEAKER_01Um that's uh that's all I got, Jeff.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm I'm excited. I'm I'm interested. I'm interested for sure. This is gonna be a fun one. All right.
SPEAKER_01Well, next episode's gonna be something a little different. We're gonna go back to Ted Lasso, and we're gonna be talking about episodes three and four, and that will come out this Friday. Heck yeah. Um all right, everybody. This has been Too Much TV, and we'll see you later. Bye bye.