These Are The Aesthetics
Two young black men having non politically correct conversations, occasionally with guests, about fashion, pop culture, sports, music, other entertainment and most of all our life journey. We have conversations that usually wouldn't be discussed on camera. The purpose of this podcast is to listen while you are on your lunch break, when you with the homies playing 2k, and to feel like you're apart of the convo instead of spectating.
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IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS:
0:00 - Intro
16:04 - Summer essentials
23:42 - Pokémon card craze
33:08 - NY Knicks win the NBA championship
39:05 - Reactions to the 2026 FIFA World Cup
46:11 - Love Bombing
51:52 - Entrepreneurship
59:28 - Who makes the best rice?
Welcome to another episode of These Are the Aesthetics. I go by the name of Cheech, aka the ladies' favorite broadcaster. Yeah, man. We're switching it up this summer. We're gonna give him streetwear one day, corporate the next.
SPEAKER_01There it is.
SPEAKER_00You know, beach the next. I might look like I live in, you know, south of France one of these days, too. Who knows? But we're gonna make it work.
SPEAKER_04You gotta switch it up the road, the wardrobe.
SPEAKER_00Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_03Well, I go a name of Gary, aka in Gary Retrust, aka Mr. Sneaker, Convo, aka Mr. Inside. Okay. Wow. I like that. I was a bulletin. Bullet dragon, man. Always inside because that's where all my money goes to, man.
SPEAKER_00But what's wrong with that? Today, we have a very special guest. Uh mutual friend of ours, but a closer friend to Gary, because they went to school together. Uh you guys were cobras. Who the fuck was you guys supposed to be? Cobras. Oh, I'm sorry. Cobra country, man. Get it right. It's just chief territory, man.
SPEAKER_04It's crazy because those two schools like were the rivals, but then like everybody knew each other.
SPEAKER_00That's crazy. Everybody knew each other.
SPEAKER_04Which is the crazy part. But the school itself were just rivalries. Like, it was crazy. Like, for no reason.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, no reports. Yeah, man. We got an entrepreneur. We have if you need like your sneakers clean, you need a car detailed. Uh he's probably at like a brunch in a city near you. Mocktails? Jack and Mocktail. Yeah, but introduce yourself, my guy. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04My name is Sky Guy. Um, aka Sky's Up There. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's all like you don't have any other nicknames.
SPEAKER_04Sky Guy and Sky's Up There. Everybody can just call me like Sky Sky High.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_04The movie's great, that movie's great. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03And on top of it, like I would say, like, I think I've told you this before, you hands that would have the coolest government name.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. Because my middle name is really Guy. So it's crazy. Yeah. You could be a rapper if you wanted to. Something. Destined to be something.
SPEAKER_00Well, okay, well, curious question. Um, you guys don't have to give dive too deep into y'all backgrounds, but how did you two meet? Like, I know you guys met in school, but and with like Gary the kid. Was was Gary the cool kid? Was Gary the kid that's quiet? How did you guys? Because you guys both like two different energy levels.
SPEAKER_04Two different we both we met in the cafeteria.
SPEAKER_00Cafeteria?
SPEAKER_03Really? Okay. I thought it was a you sure? Well, I'm gonna say you took his lunch money?
SPEAKER_04What happened? No, we just sat down. Like we just uh we saw that like I guess we had mutual friends, probably mutual friends, and the fact that like we both just dressed differently in that school. Okay. That's all it was.
SPEAKER_00So you guys were the sneaker heads, I'm assuming.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think at the time I wasn't even maybe I wasn't the sneakers, but maybe I just dressed differently. And then like he dressed like a sneaker head, and then I was like, oh okay, like we just we got along from like fashion. Fashion, right?
SPEAKER_03It was one of those things where it's like we should know each other.
SPEAKER_04It's like why, yeah, we probably I don't know why we didn't know each other. Yeah, so pretty much that's that's what it was, and then we yeah, and then like his friend groups were kind of fucking with our friend groups, my friend group, my bad.
SPEAKER_00And then that's just then you guys kind of merged, yeah.
SPEAKER_04That's it, really.
SPEAKER_03Literally, my first memory of you was like in like in high school. It's like we had like um algebra class.
SPEAKER_04How do you think we met? What what what is your story?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like uh my first memory of you is like literally, I'm literally sitting by myself at my desk at algebra class, and um my freshman year, your sophomore year, and I'll never forget, okay, yeah. You had Statue of Liberties on. Wow, okay.
SPEAKER_04You had that's a crazy story about those shoes.
SPEAKER_03You had uh the you had the the foxtail that was your signature in high school.
SPEAKER_00Oh, on the back of the gym. I used to hate them niggas. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03I had the infamous Mohawk before the color was going in it. Oh my god. And like I remember just like we would see each other because like we like we had a class, it was like that same week of the first week of school, and like he just like I respected it. He just literally just walked over to me and sat down. He was like, hey yo, man, like that's what he was, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Like I just went over, I was like, uh he looked cool, and I was like, I don't know anybody else. Yeah, you're trying to eat, like that's pretty bold of you, whatever, yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_01You're dope in the back is it gay?
SPEAKER_00But all right, before we get the the ball rolling, what we like to do on the show is we like to humanize people, but before we get to that, we like to check on everybody's well-being or you know, psychological well-being.
SPEAKER_05Mental health?
SPEAKER_00Mental health, like so how are you doing on a scale of one to ten this week or today? How's your mental, how's your physical, how's your week going so far? And just give us a number from one out of ten.
SPEAKER_04Uh, I would say like overall like mental and physical health, um, like an eight, because I haven't been working out as much this week, more than I than I've been wanting to, and that helps with my mental health. So, um, but it's still doing great. Like, I'm able to like um like I don't know, like configure great conversations. Like, I'm not getting like fog rain and stuff like that. So yeah, man.
SPEAKER_00So you're able to move and do what you gotta do, fine. Yeah, you've been cruising pretty much.
SPEAKER_04This past couple of weeks has been better because I don't know, I I've just been realizing a lot more. Okay. Self-discovery, self-self-reflection and self-discovery, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_03Alright. An eight is pretty good. What about you, Gabe? What about you, man? I'm gonna say like I'm about a seven. Um, I'm I've been having like a really good week. It's just like I've been overly anxious this week. I've been overthinking a lot. And um, what's it called? Like, I've been like naturally dehydrated, that's why you see me coughing every five seconds.
SPEAKER_00Water's really important. I mean your girlfriend's birthday, I mean your wife's birthday is coming up.
SPEAKER_03Sorry.
SPEAKER_00Get it right. I gotta get used to this. Gotta get that right.
SPEAKER_03You know, um the W said.
SPEAKER_04You didn't smoke.
SPEAKER_03So I don't even smoke. I was thinking maybe, maybe I should intake. Wow. Maybe I should intake. Because there's a lot of dispensaries in the city now, so it's like okay, it's up to you entirely.
SPEAKER_00I don't think Gary knows how to even roll a blunt anymore. I think he's been so far disconnected. Well, they sell pre-rolls.
SPEAKER_03Actually, you know what? Fun fact. First time I ever smoked in my life was with this guy. Nice. Nice.
SPEAKER_01Ah, look at look at how brought y'all together.
SPEAKER_03That maybe brought us together a little more.
SPEAKER_01Okay, uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. We were like, we was like, I think we were hooping one day, and he was like, Y'all used to hoop? We popped, I I I can hoop. We used to, I used to hoop.
SPEAKER_04I'm looking at the shit about this guy. I think he used to hoop too because he used to hula hoop or hoop? Like basketball hoop. Maybe both. I know uh Lewis Lewis Michonne. Shout out, Lewis. Um, uh he was you know the neighbor, so maybe that's what I know you fucking all together, right?
SPEAKER_03Because I think we were so sweaty. My remember my dad picked us up that day, and like we were smoking like outside in your front porch. Yo, this guy never gave a fuck. I was looking back, we were like, what?
SPEAKER_04Cause I was like, that whole house when I was living in the plantation, bro, that was that was wild. I said a video, it's the first video on my phone, and it's just my my room. My room is like crazy, bro. Everybody was signing sharpies. If you if you guys sign on my wall, y'all know what I'm talking about. Because everybody, like it was a whole bunch of everybody, guys, girl, everybody that had in there.
SPEAKER_03What I tell you, because like Sky was like that one that one kid in high school, his parents were never home, so it's like it was pretty much his house.
SPEAKER_04Only child.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna lie to you, uh, before I give you a breakdown of my week. Which is what is what is your score? Yeah, uh, my score, I honestly I give myself an eight. Okay. Uh everything is fine. You guys know my philosophy. You know, I I slept okay, I still got a job, my parents are good. That's important. You slept in. You know, all the little shit we can worry about later. For the most part, I'm good. That's um my first memory of you since we were recollecting is you used to come, you used to go to, you used to hang out with Drew. Yeah. Uh and Vince, uh, shout out to Vince. Shout out to Drew and Vince. Drew and Darwin, they used to have a little sneaker group together. They had a group. Yeah, correct.
SPEAKER_04They they created uh an event. They even had an event to hookah where I got my statue of Liberty SBs, BB Kids, yeah, or BB Kicks. Yeah, BB kicks. BB kicks.
SPEAKER_00So, yeah, so I'm I kind of seen you you I always saw you around them, yeah, but whenever you're not around them, you was always around the girls.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_00You always was around women, and I'm like, who the fuck is this Asian kid? Because you was around some shit that I always wanted to. Okay, that's good stuff. I'm looking from a phone, I'm like, who the fuck is this kid? How do I get to party with them and be around this environment? Because it used to be so because you know, back then we had no bills. It was going to school, after work, we had no money. Some of us had, some of us had a money either. No money, so we were just hanging out. Really? Yeah. So and you know, everybody was just, it was a big community, but it's like, it was simpler times. That's the best way to do it.
SPEAKER_04Way simpler times, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's the best way I could do it. Of course. But so I had two thoughts, right? Okay, okay, yeah. Excuse my French. I'm like, this kid is either the most player kid in the world, or he's gay. No, it was those two thoughts. And then I and then people around you started saying, yo, no, he get, he get, like, he don't play, like he, ah ah.
SPEAKER_04So I'm like, okay. I didn't hook up with every girl I was with, but it shouldn't be like that. No, of course. Of course. Some of them, but some of them were just better as sometimes better off as friends. Correct. You know, and then they bring around.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, you definitely learn that at a later age, too. Like, you don't stick your dick into everybody. But but that was like my first initial introduction to you. And then I think we kind of we kept on meeting up in passing. I think I was uh uh chilling with Drew one day. You kind of lived in the same neighborhood, I think. We kind of ran into each other. I ran into you at multiple events.
SPEAKER_04At the events, uh I was you at the shoe events a lot, I remember that.
SPEAKER_00And then, yeah, and then we kind of like had a relationship, but not really. Then we followed each other on the gram. Then, yeah, then it became something.
SPEAKER_04But yeah, I it was mutual from him, yes, more, yeah. And then that's what it was.
SPEAKER_00By the time I got to know Gary, then it be you kind of bridged, he kind of bridged the gap.
SPEAKER_04But I wish I knew you, you know, more when because you were what class are you? 2014. Same. I wish that like we hung out more when in high school, you know.
SPEAKER_03So I'm on record saying I knew I would have a better high school experience at St. Lucius. Huh? You you would? I would have had a better experience. In St. Lucius, yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's just different. I mean, I don't know. It's different for everybody. I don't know. I don't know. Parvista was cool.
SPEAKER_03Par Vista was cool, it's just I just didn't I just didn't fit in. I didn't fit in anywhere. We didn't fit in and I knew it off-rip.
SPEAKER_00We didn't fit in, but I think you you needed a lot more emotional intelligence for St. Lucius. How about this? I'll say up clearly. I needed black friends.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Oh, you definitely would have had those.
SPEAKER_04You would have had more of those in St. Lucius. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. But shout out to my homies that all went to PV, all my Spanish homies. I blended in with y'all. Everyone thought I was Spanish at one point. Yeah. The school was I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Melting pot. It was like a melting pot after unbelievable. Yeah, I don't know. There was a lot of stuff that that school taught me, but not really like anything crazy. Just like, I don't know, like kind of like the structure, how to structure yourself. Does that make sense? No, it does.
SPEAKER_03No, it's quite like the black kids didn't fuck with me at PV because I didn't play, I didn't play football.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, okay. Yeah, you weren't into sports, like but surprisingly, he hooped. I know you can hoop.
SPEAKER_03Just like Chiefs played soccer.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, look actually what's on the team.
SPEAKER_04Look at the shoes you guys are wearing. I usually have some. What are we what are we starting to go? What are you saying, though? You got battles on, you got come on now. That's like I already said yin and yang. Yin and yang.
SPEAKER_00Speaking of fashion. Speaking of fashion, uh, we we we usually the show is called These Are the Aesthetics. It would not be what it is if we didn't talk about some of the things we wear, some of the things we uh some of the places we aspire to go, some of the things we're involved in. Um so we usually pick out a topic, fashion or not, that fit under the aesthetic model, and then we talk about it.
SPEAKER_03So we can get down like as far as like fits fits go. Oh, like a fit check. But we all met each other through fashion sneaker. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00But before we get to that, let's do a quick fit check. Uh, I'll start it off. This is a thrifted sweater. Um Cheechas bag. A little boxy. I like a little boxy vibe. I like boxy, you know, a nice vintage wash to it. And and I've been and I've been uh into like the greens, like emerald green, dark green, light green, and all that. So that's been my bag. These are some express trousers, and I got some OG sambas on. Nothing crazy. I got I got I got I got somewhere to be after this.
SPEAKER_04It's more simpler than our fit. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so I'm chilling in there. I like I like I always like the casual. I'm using either casual or just like out like. What about you?
SPEAKER_00What you got on?
SPEAKER_04Um, what is it? A Star Boy hat that I got from Cold Shoulder Kicks. Shout out them. And then I thrifted. They're cool, they're a cool tie in them. Um I got this alien vintage tea that I thrifted from the Avengers event in G-Star. Um I grabbed one of these and I grabbed a Pokemon tea that I just sold to my boy Mateo. Shout out Mateo yesterday, and he loves it. It's a crazy Pokemon tea. Uh thrifted Levi jeans and then white cement threes with some. I've never had that shoe. I'm jealous. These are my favorite threes. I'll get like six pairs of these. That's how I feel about Brad Force. See, you all have that, like you can just wear them with anything. Anything.
SPEAKER_03So uh me and um I this is this is uh uniform for me. So I have on like a uh vintage NBC Sports little snapback. I'm dad cap. Uh Filthy Project, usually on body, uh Eric Emanuel shorts, uh what's called Filthy Project socks, and um, I have on some very freaking hot Aqua 8s, which is um love the shoe, but this is a horrible shoe to wear in the summertime right now.
SPEAKER_04Not a lot of ventilation.
SPEAKER_03My feet are sweating bullets right now. Yeah, you look fly though. You look fly. I've been so you know what I mean. I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_04Are they coming out with the Aqua 8? Like the one that's not like that.
SPEAKER_03No, this is the these came out literally last year, so we're not getting a retro, probably in no time.
SPEAKER_04Those come out last year?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Did they didn't those come out like a while ago too, though? Like with the gray?
SPEAKER_03Like 2013. Yeah, these are the newest ones. I like these the most because they have like the best shape. The only reason I'm not trying to flex. Only reason why I bought these because my 07 pair cracked. Crumbled. So did you keep it? I still have it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I wish I kept all of my crumbled pears and all that.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, do you can you mid so swap?
SPEAKER_04I just need a donut pair. That's it. We'll be in talks.
SPEAKER_00Uh well, back to the aesthetics topic. Uh, one of the things, obviously, we all live in South Florida. It is summertime. Yes. Uh, we wanted to not only focus on our state, but it's summertime everywhere in every state, all around the world. It's a season.
SPEAKER_05It is.
SPEAKER_00Um, we want to talk about some of the essentials that are needed during the summer. Right. Because some of you guys, like myself today, are overdoing it or being, you know, or wearing something that's not compatible to the season. Um, you know, we've seen a lot of hits and misses. So we just wanted to give you guys uh some of our uh, you know, advice on how to stay cozy. Stay cool. Stay cool, stay cozy, and stay tuned.
SPEAKER_04Like, what do you usually wear in the summertime? Bro, I'm I've been legit cutting my shirts. So short sleeves. So muscle shirts. Muscle shirts, okay? Ventilation. Repeatedly. I did it yesterday. Yeah. Uh the collar, everything, just because it's so hot, bro. I understand. I was telling my my guy yesterday, I was like, bro, these bitches are wearing nothing. I'm about to start wearing fucking I'm about to start wearing nothing, bro. Gucci daddies, we gotta mirror the bitches. We'll get we'll get arrested. We'll get arrested, yeah. No, but it's hot, yeah, yeah. You gotta keep yourself cool but drink water, especially in South Florida.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't know. If you go on the beach, then like wear a hat, you know, get a I know a hot day in New York is like 74, but for us down here, it's like 110 or 100.
SPEAKER_04The car will be like, once my car says 104, yeah. AC on blast. When you know it's like it's summertime.
SPEAKER_03Bro, my summer essentials right now, like you guys know me. Um, it's usually I um a hat because it's like you need a hat, bro. Need a hat, no matter what. Even if you just got a fresh lineup, the hat is sometimes still needed. Like, I always have my ray bands on. Um, usually a t-shirt, a light shirt. That's when I wear a lot of white t-shirts. Oh I'm for some reason, like, I'm trying to like take a page out of Cheech's book and trying to get like a really good crop white t-shirt, plain tee. I'm trying to be a fish. I'm trying to indulge in some like plain white teas this summer. Always mesh shorts.
SPEAKER_04Abercrombie and fish.
SPEAKER_03I'll I'll indulge. That was actually my first job.
SPEAKER_04Nice.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Mesh shorts. I met him when he was looking at Hollister.
SPEAKER_04My bad.
SPEAKER_00No wonder they thought he was white. What the you're not helping your case?
SPEAKER_03I was in the Hollister and Abercrombie. He's like 50-50 for real.
SPEAKER_04Anyways, continue.
SPEAKER_03Sorry. By the way, hey, Abercrombie got some shit today, by the way. Oh, yeah, they do. They do. Now they do. Now they do. Now they do.
SPEAKER_04Head, direct director for it. He's like, alright, yeah, I'm I'm making money.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. But yeah, um, mesh shorts, always um always in a high sock. And I'm not gonna lie, I'm I've been in my basketball sneaker kind of bag this summer. That's I'm wearing my LeBron's, I'm wearing my Kobe's. Do it. I'm doing it. Do it. Other than that, if you guys want some advice on good like running or walking shoes, Asics. Asics, uh Sacone, New Back, Brooks, Brooks, um, those Adidas Pier Boosts I've been seeing people rave about. Because you know, like everyone's in a run club today.
SPEAKER_04Everybody's running and then fucking after, yeah. That's what they do at the club.
SPEAKER_02You know the trick. That's what they do. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know how in theory we had a run club up here before. We we got to the bottom of some things. Oh, yeah. And some of it did not air.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_00See?
SPEAKER_04You guys already know the vibes.
SPEAKER_00Oh man. But for me, my list is a little bit long, but I'm gonna try to make sure it's brief. Shorten. Um, so for sure, a hat. You know, I'm usually in a dad hat, trucker, or bucket hat. Um, but I don't wear fitteds often, which is something I always hear from Gary. He gave me shit about it. Definitely some shades. You're gonna need some sunglasses. Uh something we did not highlight, but is very needed. I don't care if you're black, white, or Asian, you need a good sunscreen. You need that.
SPEAKER_04SPF 30, at least for something, bro.
SPEAKER_00SPF 30 or better. Or better, yeah.
SPEAKER_03And then can I I'm gonna get I'm gonna get critiqued for this. You're gonna call me a bitch. I know. The black, the best sunscreen of all time, black girl sunscreen.
SPEAKER_00I've used it. The only problem with it is one, it's super expensive. It's like $20 for the little thing. And the second thing is, I think the more you use it, obviously your skin gets immune to it. Right. So the thing with skincare products is your skin will get used to it over time, so you have to switch it out every once in a while and go back to it afterwards. So there's that. Uh, shorts. Y'all know how I feel about my shorts already. I don't have to highlight that. Blinks, blank tees, white tees, black tees, uh, and some summer essentials as far as kicks, man. Uh, it looks like it's gonna be a somber uh vans, and you can't you can't go wrong with a good pair of Air Force Ones, a crispy white pair, you know, so at least, you know, they're not crazy expensive. If you fuck them up, you go to a party, you get stepped on, you can always rebuy those back for a buck ten. Yeah, buck ten is crazy now, right? Yeah, it used to be 90 bucks. Remember those days? Yeah, 74. If we really went up to the 100, that's like back in the back of the day.
SPEAKER_03Speaking of speaking of forces, I know like there's been like a lot of like, I don't know if you guys saw that they're trying to bring back like the old mob, yeah, I saw the old models and stuff. But it's like if could we just like just put just put it in the coffin now, just put the nail in the coffin and just like white air forces is not a summer shoe. I'm sorry. I know like on paper it is, but it's like but the reason why I'm saying this is that like why don't you think it's one?
SPEAKER_00It's just an everyday shoe. You're not wearing the same pair of white forces every day. Some some I know some niggas that people do though.
SPEAKER_04They do because it's like it's just white. It's just white, but like it's a lazy shoe after three wears. No, I know, but it I think almost anything white is like a summer apparel.
SPEAKER_00Like neutral colors, like, and just all white is just a summer vibe.
SPEAKER_03White, white or bright, yeah, bro. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Like, if you got the money to buy multiple pairs, so be it. But it's like I'm over the white Air Force one.
SPEAKER_04That's just I feel you. Hey, look, I haven't owned an air pair of white Air Force ones in years. But I would love to have one on right now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I keep I keep I buy them by the twos when I do, but I keep it, I keep them in rotation just so that's like if I fuck them up, it's not a big like a pair of white forces for 110 versus a pair of retro fours for 250. No, I know. I'd rather take the gamble with the course, like when I'm going on vacation out of town town, I'm going to a party, yeah, I'm not really trying to make a big impression. Like I wear some white forces. I also never and they have some better colors out there too, now too. Some nice silhouettes. I bet. I mean with everything.
SPEAKER_03I ain't gonna lie though, but. I think the summer shoe that's like literally been taking over my timeline. Fans.
SPEAKER_04Fans. I want the pearlized ones.
SPEAKER_03I do, but it's like, I don't know if I'm I can't drop $300 on the show.
SPEAKER_04No, I can't. I'm not gonna do that either. I just want them. I just think they're cool. They're cool.
SPEAKER_03Don't get me, don't get me wrong.
SPEAKER_04I love that navy plate, that navy blue fan with the pearls and the whites. The cheap, the cheapest ones are the brown ones, which is still straight. I'll still take those.
SPEAKER_03I ain't mad at it, but it's like I'm I'm right now, I'm like, I'm trying my best to not look like an Insta, like look like Instagram.
SPEAKER_04I know, I know. But I like them though. I don't even care. Like if I whatever. I know that if I get them, I can rock them. It's definitely your bag.
SPEAKER_00I would wear them so as a sneakerhead, you live through so many different eras. Like we've had this Vans phase in college. We was in school. I was wearing Vans in High School.
SPEAKER_04I was wearing Vans before I met him. Bro, Chucks. I had a Chucks phase.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he remembers black t-shirt, but the shirt. Sky was wearing cropped T's before it was even a thing, bro. I was wearing V-necks, bro. I think. Sky had on the shirt right by the belt, skinny jeans, red vans.
SPEAKER_04I was a jerker. It was a jerk face. Yeah. You know, everybody.
SPEAKER_03Can't forget the Jan Sport.
SPEAKER_00We can't talk shit about Jans, but Jansboy held niggas in the game.
SPEAKER_03I still got my same Jan Sport from elementary.
SPEAKER_00That's that's good. That's good.
SPEAKER_04I don't have mine still, but I know they're they last long. They lasted long. Dicky's backpack. I had a Dicky's backpack in middle school. Yeah. That was that was a bag.
SPEAKER_00Speaking of trends and craze, uh, things that's been taking the internet by storm. Uh me and Gary meant to talk about this trend for a few weeks now. Can I get it?
SPEAKER_03Pokemon cards. Let me reel it in because I know that I'm gonna get some texts and calls about this. Okay. I have some friends that are actively doing Pokemon cards. I respect you.
SPEAKER_00Trading, selling, buying.
SPEAKER_03I have one friend that gets a pass from me that about the Pokemon cards, because you've been on the wave early. My homie Vincent. Shout out to homie Vincent, the perky trainer on Instagram. He's been doing this for a long time. All power to you. The rest of you niggas. All you niggas, I've seen you sell sneakers. I've seen you sell vintage. I've seen you do sports betting. I know none of you niggas watch Pokemon. So all I'm saying is with you Pokemon goers, is it's just like You feel like it's dick riding. I'm not even gonna say it's dick riding, it's just and I'm I'm saying this from a nigga that's inside. I don't go out much. But when I see niggas drop two, three thousand dollars on these Pokemon cars, when I hear grown men talking about some, oh, I will I just dropped $700 on a Charizard. I just opened up a new pack, and I'm like, my nigga. And this is coming from a nigga that don't go outside. You might need to touch grass.
SPEAKER_04No, for sure.
SPEAKER_03And I know I'm gonna get hate.
SPEAKER_04No, for sure. I mean, yeah, man, it's a lot of sneakerheads transitioning into the Pokemon. Uh um, some of them try, right? Some of them succeed, some of them won't, but like if you they didn't play the I was just talking about this before. Uh, I was telling y'all that I was telling him like before I came here, I was at the you know, Tat shop, shout out Black Land, and um I was talking to my boy Mateo, yeah, man, about that, like the Pokemon stuff, because he's into it. But like, if you didn't play the games back then, if you didn't watch any of the shows, nothing like that back in the day, you're not gonna make bank. You're not gonna sell. You don't know, you're not gonna know what to do. Like, what's your knowledge? You don't have the knowledge, bro. And I have to say this. So you can try to do it, but like it's not like sneaker, like steal a sneaker game where you can kind of like brush upon it.
SPEAKER_00Jump in at any given time with everything retro.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean? Like, you know, even at that, it's still hard. You still gotta be like a sneakerhead.
SPEAKER_03I'm I'm saying it from a place of hate too, because I never watched Pokemon growing up. I watch Yu-Gi-Oh! I probably still have 200 Yu-Gi-Oh cards, and the fact that Yu-Gi-Oh cards and the fact that they don't go for shit, I know this is to be off daily. You know what?
SPEAKER_04Look, you can't, I know, you too a little bit, but the one day they will. Just like keep it, you know, good, bro. That's all it is, you know. That's all it is.
SPEAKER_00My my thing is, and I and I'm gonna try to say this in the most polite way possible because I have friends that go to Comic Con. Yeah, friends that are into Star Wars. There's a convention this weekend. Yes, there are, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So look, it's booming now.
SPEAKER_00I think there's an age limit to get into these things. Because look, I just want men to just make manly shit cool again. Because look, there's things you can evolve into liking. You can get into fashion late, you can get into collecting vintage cars late, you can get into uh smoking cigars as you get to be a refined gentleman and you coming of age.
SPEAKER_04The taste of olives.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you can you can transition from going to hood rat restaurants to find dining. You can do that. Of course. My thing is the person with no knowledge, no history, liking something, especially as a grown man and you jumping on that wave, fam. Why don't you go pick up a brick outside and go learn how to fucking build a house? I know. Why don't you why don't you learn how to fucking put on a put a battery in a car? Why don't you learn? It's just there's too many, and I see why women give us flack about shit like this, is because before we get into the fun and the goofy shit, let's cover our bases. Like I have grown ass men that are arguing about the value of a card. Like, fam, is your light being paid? What are we talking about?
SPEAKER_04No, but like nowadays though, yeah, bro. It's a big, I guess it's a big market. But it is crazy, like sad though, because I mean, I don't know, it's it's the fact that like all ages, all the kids, people younger than us, people that are our age and older.
SPEAKER_00I'm not talking about those. The people that grew up doing it, that's fine. Yeah, but to the grown men that are getting into it now, and these are the only demographic of people I'm addressing. Okay, yeah. My thing is it's a it's a habit that kind of makes you look gay in a sense. You know why? Because women don't give a fuck about it. Who are you trying to impress?
SPEAKER_04Zero aura, you're saying. It's like zero aura, right? Is that what it is?
unknownJust you have a dick!
SPEAKER_00Come on outside.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's a fucking world war. We're on the verge of a new world war. Instead of learn going to the fucking gun range like a man, you wanna be a bitch and go and come on, bro.
SPEAKER_04Politely, it's with all the respect. No, no, no. It's been like, yeah, bro, it's it's wild. They they have their priorities all fucked up. That's all.
SPEAKER_00I feel like there's so many other hobbies that men could fall into it.
SPEAKER_03I know, and I know I'm I can feel the text coming to my phone already. Because the thing is, I know what they're gonna say, but fam, you know how much money I'm making off of it. It's what it's all about, yeah. Here's my thing, bro. I've literally seen all of y'all like I've seen y'all go from shoes, and that's why I stopped going to shoe events because it's literally just sellers selling to other sellers. Yeah. I went to Vince's. The passion is gone. Yeah. Like thrift events, I don't even go to thrift events anymore because yo, nobody even gets a fly anymore at these thrift events. The one at G-Star, though, what do you think of that one though? I haven't been to it yet. Shout out to Homie Danny. Shout out to Homie Through. I'm so fly for it.
SPEAKER_04I might pull up to that one. I'll be going. It's good.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. And I know neighborhood threads, they're kind of trying to revamp that, like, it's more of like a block party now, but it's like they kind of re- They're they're trying to revamp, like I guess, like thrift events.
SPEAKER_04The last the last time I went to that one, the one in G-Star, I remember though, there was a lot of like uh women's clothes, which is like fine, but like there was more women's clothing than like men's. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03But it's just like with this Pokemon thing, it's like to each his own, but it's just not for me. But it's like I'm sorry, but like getting excited by a pack of cards.
SPEAKER_04No, I know. It's I I I can't, I mean, but like, you know, just like you said, they need to touch grass, it's a little different. It's kind of the same with with us with the sneakers, but we actually wear and go out, right? Stuff like that. But it is the same kind of thing though. They're they're like, oh my god, like I can flip this, make money, or oh my god, I've been wanting this card.
SPEAKER_03I remember niggas used to make fun of us for wearing the for buying you sneakers.
SPEAKER_04I get it, but it's like it's sad too because I mean the kids are buying it, whatever, but like the kids aren't able to play with them like that anymore because everybody's buying them out. It's sad.
SPEAKER_00If your hobby is not rooted in passion, I don't respect it. Yeah, I guess that's what I'm really saying.
SPEAKER_04That's what you're trying to say.
SPEAKER_00Like, if you had something for a while, you over it, you done playing with it, which is fucking unbelievable to say as a grown man, and you want to trade it or sell it, right? I get it. If you purchase uh an historic thing and you you see the value in it, um museum worthy, and you want to trade it, don't if if if you if you see a lick, take you know, take advantage of it. I'm not talking about these people. And I have smoke for the ladies too. Yeah, I haven't seen a sundress in a bikini in years.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I love sundress.
SPEAKER_00Like the Beeley Island shit is cool, but get sexy. It's summertime. Respectfully. For sure. Respectfully. So it's like everybody now, every girl is a streamer now. What happened to the girl?
SPEAKER_04Everybody's streaming.
SPEAKER_00But nah, it's just to me, I I think bring back hobbies that reflect your age. And this is with no judgment, with all the love in the world. It's a lot of judgment. I think at a certain age, it just you look crazy. Fam, you look crazy. Sitting outside of a store before it opens to get Pokemon cards as a 35-year-old man is crazy.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_00Nobody's gonna say that. Yeah. Nobody's gonna say it. At least my look at you. I can look at you and tell you don't have this shit together. You still live at home with your parents. You you you you gotta ride here. It's like fam.
SPEAKER_03Don't have a girlfriend. And the words of cheat.
SPEAKER_01What happened to me?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Money, this is a nigga that that that owns a sidebag, by the way. We uh we men used to go to war back in the day. You would think! And nowadays we're playing.
SPEAKER_03We both be playing. Men used to detail cars.
SPEAKER_04Men used to men used to wild carriages.
SPEAKER_00Men you Sam, go learn how to be a barber. You bitch ass.
SPEAKER_03I don't trust any nigga that know how to cut his own hair. I'm sorry. I can't put his own hair. It looks a little fassy, I ain't gonna lie.
SPEAKER_00Unless you're a barber and you can do it.
SPEAKER_03Them niggas that know how to do the little fade. I don't trust none of them niggas.
SPEAKER_00I picked up my homie one time to go to a party. This nigga said, hold on, give me a second.
SPEAKER_01He lined himself up. I said, Alright. Are we the bitches? Oh, we gonna go get the bitches.
unknownWhat's going on?
SPEAKER_02You trying to get that fresh line up. If you know, don't use a razor like a man. Could have used a razor, yeah. What's the next for the doctor?
SPEAKER_00I just said, man. Yo, let's bring back men.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00Uh it's some good news. Uh, the Knicks uh did the impossible. Yeah. What seemed to be the impossible. Uh they brought a championship back to the city uh after 53 long years. Personally, um I'm not a Knicks fan. I'm not a Knicks stand. I'm not gonna pretend to be, but you could tell they wanted it more. For sure. They played, they left their heart on the floor every night.
SPEAKER_04The way they bought it was impeccable, yeah.
SPEAKER_00New York have that type of look. I know New York, I've saw grown men crying. I've seen generations glued in front of the TV to watch this moment. Like, I've literally I work with women that said, Oh my god, I gotta rush home to watch this game with my dad because he's been wanting the Knicks to win since he was a kid. Right. So, like, it was such a beautiful moment.
SPEAKER_0453 years is a long time. Yeah, bro. I'm I'm I'm happy for them. That's somebody's average life in America. Yeah. Yeah. So that's it's monumental. We witness history, you know. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_00It it's it's dope, man. I'm happy for them.
SPEAKER_03I'll just be seeing Walt Fraser in them ugly ass suits.
SPEAKER_00Don't get me started.
SPEAKER_03Yo, y'all, you really try to legend. You try to throw me the Holly Hoops this episode. Shout out to the legend, man. That's a legend. Walt Fraser just be there, just like just hoping every year with the biggest smile on his face.
SPEAKER_00Spike Lee got questionable fashion too.
SPEAKER_03He's a legend. Let him pass. Spike Lee is a Knicks mascot at this point. I just leave it below.
SPEAKER_04He was on the court and no one said shit. I saw a video. He was on the court for a while.
SPEAKER_00Sometimes I don't know. Spike Lee be looking like the ball boy, the cheerleader. I don't know. But he's a legend. One of our legends. One of our greats.
SPEAKER_03But um, I'm really happy for the Knicks. Like, I'm in no way, shape, or form a Knicks fan. I do respect it. Y'all definitely deserve this win. Yeah. Um, shout outs out to the homie Sean. Um, Sean sent me a voice note trying to like get me on the Knicks bandwagon. And he's like, bro, come on, man. It's the best time to get him to get a Knicks fan. Jalen Brunson is Jamaican. Yeah. It's a good time to be a bandwagon. I'm like, nah, I'm gonna stick to the heat. Nah, nigga. I'm literally like, bro, I'm telling you, like, if Giannis comes to the heat and John Morant come to the heat, my Instagram is gonna be ignorant.
SPEAKER_04I hope, I hope Giannis comes to the heat.
SPEAKER_03But um other than awesome. Other than that, like, but I want to say shout out to the Spurs. Like, um, I think what I'm gonna say about the Spurs is that like uh Victor Webinyama, he is he's a truth. Um, I know y'all probably hate him right now.
SPEAKER_00Lots of potential.
SPEAKER_03Lots of potential. I hear.
SPEAKER_00And he needed this loss to build character. He's still young. The lights were too bright.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Uh De'Aaron Fox. Um, you will be going to the um the Shanghai Sharks.
SPEAKER_00Shanghai Shorts. Um I don't think. I think since he lost the hair, the talent level kind of like.
SPEAKER_03I don't care if you were hurt, you were missing open shots, um, you need to be traded. Uh Dylan Harper needs to take your spot.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, 100%. The whole game should have been like that.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. I don't care if you took them to the finals, you need to be gone. Uh that's just my personal opinion. But um last thing I'm gonna say about like basketball on my end, I do think that um we're in for like a really good offseason. I know the draft is coming up next week, and I do think that this is gonna be the best basketball season in a long time, due to the fact that they changed the rules of the drafting.
SPEAKER_04So what was the rules that changed?
SPEAKER_03Uh so pretty much like you know that whole tanking, they try to stop tanking where it's like you no longer get rewarded the best draft pick if you're like the last place. Okay. So pretty much like the players are gonna get the best um picks are gonna be in like the play-in teams. Pretty much.
SPEAKER_00I think that's something that should have changed a long time ago. But shout out to Progress, I guess. Yeah, sure. But yeah, the Knicks, I know, I know New York, the parade is actually was this morning. Uh well, the parade has been this whole week. I think the parade is fun.
SPEAKER_04My homegirl Lexi, shout out Lexi.
SPEAKER_00Uh New York is on fire right now. I love the energy. There's no my no there's no other state more prideful and more braggadocious, more arrogant than New York. And now you guys, you guys are backing it up. You know, it feels good to be outside. Summertime, the Knicks won. New York is on fire right now.
SPEAKER_03I've never seen a city come together to watch those games. Like everybody like literally projectors. Projectors, like literally watching like the Knicks, like Knicks fans gather up to watch games. You couldn't tell me what year it is. Yeah. It looked like the 80s, 90s, 2000s, like everyone just gathering up and just just to like look at watching TV from someone's freaking like apartment.
SPEAKER_04Like that's like the real life, because of how the city is so big, bro.
SPEAKER_03And you gotta remember too, it's like a lot of people don't have cable. A lot of people don't have cable. That's the only way you can actually view your like your national.
SPEAKER_04No one's trying to go pay money.
SPEAKER_00And not to make this serious, but what what this week taught me is how sports, food, and music could just bring us all together. It don't matter what your skin tone is. Like I've seen uh two people from two different different generations hugging, different races, hugging, people are chugging beers together, people are sports, people are committing crimes together that have no I've seen police officers dancing, like I've literally sit seen the human side of people, and and again, the thing that's more powerful than hate is love. And I and I think again, yo, let's treat every day like there's a sporting event going on, then life will be a lot more easy.
SPEAKER_04It's crazy, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, with the FIFA and everything going on, like yeah, black people, maybe we should wear a jersey every time we get stopped by the cops. Oh maybe that would happen.
SPEAKER_03Bro, my hell. I would I went to my first heat game. There's just like this one. He had like $300 worth of freaking like um coupons like from his job to like just to like get food in the arena. And he's like, hey, I'm not gonna have all this to myself. Do you want some? I'm like, yeah, for sure, thanks. And it's like I I wasn't so used to like like uh strangers being so kind.
SPEAKER_04Right, you know, good heart. And everybody has a bad heart.
SPEAKER_00Now, sports fan, they can get a lot of people. White people will be quick to buy you a beer at a freaking. Oh, yeah, 1000%. 100%.
SPEAKER_03Bro, you want one too? This is on me. Yeah, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_00What's your name? Yeah, it's shit crazy. Don't even know. Uh, but in and uh other, you know, still in sports, uh the the the obviously America is hosting uh the uh FIFA World Cup.
SPEAKER_04They're doing it mainly in USA to North America to North America to correct to let every all Americans participate in the games and it's been working. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's been it's been a beautiful chaos, I'd call it. Because you could kind of tell some of the cities weren't equipped to welcome soccer fans. Because what I don't think Americans could be so selfish and so self-centered that they don't know how big the world is, the world is, and it's like like fam. Well, we know these guys are like these guys are gods in their cities and their countries. Like they're coming here, people are flying in, the pandemonium, like you you you see a lot of people like spook because they don't understand a lot of the uh uh different people from different ethnicities and countries coming over. This is uh yeah, but that's how you learn though the bad driving.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, can you imagine if you were still working at the gas station on the bottom hell no? But this is honestly the time where you can literally be in the most random place in your city, you will see a freaking like a major like a soccer player. Like, there is footage of like Yameen Lamont walking in a Walmart, yeah, and I had to send a message to my group chat, and I'm like, bro, I know y'all probably don't know who this is, yeah, but this is the only country this kid can do this thing. Facts. Christian Ronaldo was at West uh West Palm Beach. Fam, did you like he was at a beach? You saw it on security?
SPEAKER_04Like that was a little bit more. Oh no, they bro, that he's like a that's the most paid athlete in the world.
SPEAKER_03Bro, Cristiano Ronaldo is so famous. There was literally like you saw how like how um when the Spurs were coming out of like their hotel and people were like chanting at them. Yeah, that was Ronaldo, and mind you, you don't know when he's coming out of his hotel. There's people waiting outside of his hotel just begging just to see, just to look at him. Of course, he's not doing anything, by the way. He's just going into his Uber. He's famous.
SPEAKER_00They kept seeing Messi at Publix shopping. I'm like, this is the only place he can do that in Argentina. Yeah, I'm surprised they don't have a statue of him. Of him, yeah. Yet. They will. I'm surprised he's allowed to walk in Argentina. Yeah, it's it's crazy. But these guys are like, you know, the the fanfare has been amazing. I feel like it's been a humbling experience for Americans to kind of see that there's a sport bigger than American football and baseball. Baseball and basketball, yeah.
SPEAKER_03My my favorite thing about the World Cup right now is like, because honestly, I have no horse in the race. Jamaica's not in the World Cup this year. Yeah, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_04Neither is Thailand, don't worry. Honestly, Haiti's in there.
SPEAKER_03Haiti's in there. Haiti's in there. Congrats.
SPEAKER_00They robbed us, they robbed us the last game, bro.
SPEAKER_03Hopefully, y'all don't get spanked too much tomorrow against Brazil. Oh. That's another good question. That's gonna be a good game. I know I know Haitians are very torn right now. Who are you rooting for tomorrow?
SPEAKER_00I mean, I'm rooting for the home team.
SPEAKER_03Come on, though. That's it. There's a lot of Haitians that can't let go of Brazil.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I'm fan, I'm a fan of great soccer. Let's not get it fucked up. Right. But I would like my country to have a shot at winning a game to be represented well. You get what I'm saying? Because we have a new crop of talent that's been killing it, even though we got robbed of you know the last game and shit. But what's been funny before we wrap this up is the women that are pretending to be into soccer because they realize how much soccer players make and how attractive some of them are. So they're like, oh, uh Ujuke, Puhuko, oh my god, he's so hot. Yeah, yeah. It's like they're trying to be into it, but you like Shorty, just be sexy and watch the game with me.
SPEAKER_03You don't have to say it's like. Like seeing people like rave about Cracker Barrel is a funny shit.
SPEAKER_04It's just down the street from here.
SPEAKER_03What the fuck? Like people at Golden Corral, like you saw someone's Wendy's order. There's there's a viral video of a guy is like his first time in his life getting like free refills.
SPEAKER_04Hey, you know what? You know what? We're blessed in other ways. Yeah, that's a fact. And so are they?
SPEAKER_00Oh, and shout out to the American team. We don't want to we're we live in America. Yeah, US. Let's let's not get too crazy. We're not they've been doing all right. It's just we just we don't we don't prioritize soccer here. Oh yeah, I've been watching that's why there's not a lot of support for it. But one complaint.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I promise I'm not trying to sound racist. I know the World Cup is in America, but due to the fact the World Cup is in America, Peacock.
SPEAKER_04Oh, you said that. I saw it. He's like, he's like, he's like telemundo. Oh no, no, he's like Peacock. Why am I watching Telemundo? And I was like, bro, I fucking started laughing, bro.
SPEAKER_02I I just one question, just one question. But look, soccer's better in Spanish. But but I understand, but but but but Peacock, why am I watching Telemundo? That's that's what they do, that's what they got the deal, bro.
SPEAKER_01Come on, they got a deal. It's a global sport.
SPEAKER_02How much do you pay for Peacock? Like 10 bucks? I'm this close of getting the Fox Sports at. The Fox Sport?
SPEAKER_03If you're unhappy, change your life.
SPEAKER_00No, can you know what it is? Because it's like You've been living in the suburbs for
SPEAKER_03Because sometimes I be doing the dishes while I listen to the game, and it's like I love listening to I'm actually one of the people that don't play music while the game is. I like to learn the numbers in English. How about that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Stop being so fucking American.
SPEAKER_03The World Cup is in America and have to learn Spanish.
SPEAKER_04You will have to learn Spanish eventually in life.
SPEAKER_03I'm a child of immigrants. I love this country. But fam, there's some level, there's some form of ignorance in that.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00You might listen, I understand. Am I racist?
SPEAKER_04No, it's fine.
SPEAKER_00I think you're particular.
SPEAKER_04I think you just want to hear in like English for. You prefer English. Yeah, yeah. But I'm telling you, it sounds better Spanish, bro.
SPEAKER_03Like the Spanish commentator says go for two minutes straight. More authentic hype. More authentic. That's how it is, though.
SPEAKER_04That's how it is. No, he's not aligning. No, no, that's that's that's what makes it hype.
SPEAKER_03Oh, the medicine got another one. I'm doing the logic. When you hear the Spanish commentators talk fast, you know some shit going down. You know they scored. Yeah. You know somebody scored.
SPEAKER_04By the time you get there, the ball's already in midfield. Games like almost over. Yeah, bro. No, no, no. It's it's it's it's got I I like watching the Spanish commentators.
SPEAKER_00There's been a big debate online. We now we're gonna turn up, we're gonna get into the the meat and potatoes of the show. Okay. There's been a lot of gossip online, there's been a lot of uh uh uh people, uh uh I call them uh IG lawyers that always have an answer for everything, a definition for everything. Uh there's been a lot of people that have trouble defining the the term that is called love bombing. Okay as as as there's three men here uh that have dated before, that have been in relationships before. One of us is married.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh what is your definition of love bombing? And and and have you love bombed before? And have you been love bombed before?
SPEAKER_04I don't even know what that means. The love bombing, yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_00I'll read some definitions in a minute that I've had some of our viewers submit.
SPEAKER_04Is it like when you give too much love at like one time? Is that what it is?
SPEAKER_00So what I what I'm under the impression of is the ladies believe that when you the intensity on how much we start this love chart. So if I meet you within a week, I'm buying you gifts, I'm flying you to places, I'm saying I love you.
SPEAKER_04Doing things and buying things all in one area.
SPEAKER_00Doing something but in the in a in a crazy speed, impulsive, moving too strong too fast, is what love bombing is.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_00So now my dilemma with love bombing, and this is the conversation I've had with a lot of women friends of mine, is what if you are in love with a person and the honeymoon phase went great, yeah, and then you learn that the person is a piece of shit after three months, like they're shitty to their parents, their hygiene is bad, or they're they're not well mannered, they have certain qualities that would not translate into the marital world with you. If a man changes his mind, does that make him a bad person? Because again, as a person that has been watching shows, movies, and watching daytime TV, like there's women that I've watched on Oprah that goes, Oh, I was in a marriage for 20 years, that drained the life out of me. I woke up one day, I wanted better for myself, and I left that, closed that chapter alone. And it's like women get empowered and praised for moving on and leaving shit behind and closing chapters. But it seems like in the world of love bombing, once a man says, This no longer serves me, or I'm done with this, he's the enemy of the state.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So uh, how do you what's your take on that? Do you feel like some women could say that you have done that to them? Or do you feel like that's that's been done to you?
SPEAKER_04Uh I feel like I've done that with a couple of women in my past, yeah. But I mean, love it if you got it. No, well, because look, like you should be able to just go, you know, obviously, like the the fundamentals of dating, right? You go, you don't you don't know the person, so you bring them somewhere that's inexpensive to get to know them.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you're buying gifts and all that.
SPEAKER_04Whatever, like you don't have to go all out, you know. But if it feels right, I guess, you know, whatever, like you go crazy. You go crazy, but you don't get to know somebody, you don't really start to know somebody until you start living with them. So, so in a couple months, you know, like when you start living with them, the hardships you go through the hardships, you go through the good, you know, the good of it too.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I get to see how many times you shower a day, you fucking you know, it's it's just stuff like that.
SPEAKER_04Like, once you start seeing how like a person lives, then you yeah, just like you said, like you start learning things that you don't like. So I don't think it's crazy, no, for for a guy to go all out in the beginning and then figure out something in the end and that he doesn't like it, or it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_00Because that's the caveat. I think that's the point of concession.
SPEAKER_04That's better, that's better than what you said. That's better than that that lady having a 24-year relationship with someone miserable, and then one day she wakes up and that's too late. 24 years. No, you gotta get that, you gotta figure that shit out like half a year. Yeah, or in the year six months or less, preferably. If you're gonna go further, yeah, you know what I mean. I don't try to move him in under six months. Okay, so exactly. So, like, there's gotta be a structure, some kind of system, yeah, that you go by, you know?
SPEAKER_00They're gonna hate that word sister.
SPEAKER_03I'm just gonna say what none of us are clearly don't want to say. Love bombing is the IG term. Because I've never seen a woman be mad of fucking with a nigga that's love bombing. All those women that say, Oh, I hate love bombers. You fucking the nigga that's love bombing. And the only reason why you're scared of a nigga that's love bombing is because you know he will love bomb somebody else.
SPEAKER_04100%. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's all it is. It's a it's a I it's a fake IG term.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I didn't even know what it was until I mean I've heard of it, but I didn't really know until like So you heard of it in passing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You know what I can't stand about women sometimes is that they will put a pretty word over tricking.
SPEAKER_00My only pushback with love bombing is we only hear that term when it doesn't work out. You get what I'm saying? And also, we only hear that term. To me, it's a uh it's a word to pacify a failed relationship.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00It doesn't work. I'm gonna use love bombing as a coping mechanism. No, he was shitty. You guys weren't compatible. That's it. You guys were not uh uh uh you know uh the dating dynamics was the dating dynamic. And I and to me personally, like you were saying, which I agree with, I'd rather nip it in the bud in six months than six years.
SPEAKER_04Why waste some no? You said 24, right? Like even yeah, like six years, yeah. Why why waste time like that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I just don't like when it's used as a weapon or as a uh when women weaponize it. But I do understand, ladies, I'm not a I'm not stupid or slow. I know some men lead you guys on. I know some men financial abuse, I know some men, you know. You go through stuff. You go through stuff through stuff we don't do. Because sometimes you get finessed out of our bread too, and what? We we have nobody to bitch for it and we don't have a term for it. Run it back up. We take the L.
SPEAKER_04Run it back up.
SPEAKER_00But you know, I wish we could just come up with terms as we get abused too, but we can't.
SPEAKER_04I know.
SPEAKER_03Uh so um a topic I wanted to discuss, especially with you being here, because um is pretty much entrepreneurship. Okay. The reason I want to have that conversation with you being here because you are the definition of entrepreneur, you're always in different series of entrepreneur. Like you sell sneakers, um, you clean sneakers, detailing, um, you have your other side hustles. Um you always know it's like you've never had an issue get into the back.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, man. I mean, I don't know, immigrant parents, immigrant parents. So I always and I was selling gum in middle school, Woodland Charlotte. I was selling candy, candy and stuff. I was selling candy and gum. I would go to Costco and just buy the bulk and then go and flip it in school.
SPEAKER_03So what I wanted to ask you is like being an entrepreneur, like, what is like I I guess you could say you're the biggest pro of being an entrepreneur, and what's the biggest con?
SPEAKER_04Um the biggest pro could be just like um I don't know, the amount of like income, like different incomes that I get, like passive incomes. And then meeting different people from that world, from different those type of like worlds, because like I don't know, it all ties in at the end. But it's cool meeting them individually, you know, from like detail. Yeah, like different searching the network.
SPEAKER_00Because they can all interconnect too. The person you just detail their car could be into sneakers. Yes. You might just get to the car in the trunk, there's a pair of fucking rare SBs you haven't seen in ten years. Exactly.
SPEAKER_04I don't have seen it before. I've seen some like Jordans, you know, not not nothing rare, but I just detail some cars where people have like some Jordans.
SPEAKER_02What about the call?
SPEAKER_04The con would probably be uh to be able to like manage like the idea is just have like one really good big business, you know, successful business, you know. So that's like the con is like sometimes like I I multitask and then like too much, or like I don't multitask enough, actually. So it's like kind of hard to like go in between those three businesses, yeah. But once you like you said, like the mental the mental health is important and like what you do and how you take care of your health is your wealth, if you're able to do that, then you got you're able to just do what you love, bro. Yeah, and it comes like to it comes right to it. Like it doesn't you know have to think twice about it.
SPEAKER_00For me, a pro is just the the the feeling of fulfillment from seeing an idea that you thought about come to life, I think that's the biggest thing, and just the excitement to try the next thing.
SPEAKER_04I'll tell you what, yeah, I said that too. It's just the the risk because you don't you don't you don't take risks in life, you don't you don't get anything done. Uh when I started detailing, bro, I bought all of my like the equipment that I needed to start. I had no bookings, and one day I like and I had no experience. The one day, like I got like three cars. The first day was mu was three cars. So I just started, I didn't know what I was doing, but I did it, and the customer was happy. Uh it's on like a uh um monthly maintenance now, you know. You get better with time. So it's it's like yeah, that's good, but I'm saying though, like I didn't I went into like you took a risk. I I took a risk, I went into the business without knowing that much. I would watch YouTube videos and I'd seen people, I would clean my own car, I was, you know, not like that, but I had no experience like that, bro. But I just went into it like that, and that's it, bro. That's what we gotta do.
SPEAKER_00I think the biggest con for me before I let you go, Gary, is uh especially doing media, is nobody sees the long nights of you plotting, mark, you know, coming up with marketing schemes, uh, different ideas, putting your money where your mouth is, and just the sacrifices that you know that that make an idea come to life. Like that's why like people say artists are like fucking insane because yeah, I'm selling a t-shirt, but from inception to creation could have been five years. You get what I'm saying? So uh and yeah, man, it's just the the the what people don't see me to be a Gary is the the the fights behind the scenes, the times that he's screaming at me to send him stuff on time.
SPEAKER_03It's gonna be late this week, too.
SPEAKER_04Uh no, it's not because I work early tomorrow morning. You guys are keeping each other in check, which is a good thing because everybody gets too much. Checks and balances and everybody gets.
SPEAKER_00We have a good accountability system too, which I appreciate. That's good. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Um, and also what I want to um say is like as far as like a pro, is like biggest pro being an entrepreneur is working for yourself. Who doesn't like to work for themselves? Yeah, I don't know how I like that.
SPEAKER_04That's probably that's probably the number that's like that's like the number one because I hate showing up and clocking and being like, oh, you're late, oh I you're not working today, oh like fuck.
SPEAKER_03But the biggest con is working for yourself as well because you have to be like you have to manage your time, you have to know, um manage your money, um, you have to hold your reinvest in the business.
SPEAKER_04Reinvest, you can't like go and spend it, yeah.
SPEAKER_03And like the last question I have as far as like entrepreneurship is like, how do you know when and when not to like do an endeavor? Pretty much. Like, pretty much another reason why I didn't go into like um Pokemon cars, because it's like I view shit as trends. Is this a trend that's gonna last forever or is it gonna last this summer? Like, um, even like going into Endeavor, like the people who you know go into endeavor, like just for saying, like, I would don't recommend recommend people do a business with someone who doesn't have like transportation. Right. Exactly. So stuff like that. If you know, like, definitely don't go into business with someone who you know owes people money. That's something.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, it's it's you have to kind of know your circle, yeah, at that point. Exactly. I mean, you you hang around, you are who you hang around with, you know, like those five people.
SPEAKER_00You are I I think my my best answer to the question you ask is pretty much I think you have to be willing to if you if you're not willing to not make money for a while to chase that dream, then it's not worth it. Because to me, if it fulfills you, if you if you wouldn't do it for free, then doing it for money would be worth it. Like everybody got bills, that's why me and Gary got regular jobs. Yeah, yes. Well, I got two jobs Gary has one in his side hustles. But you gotta be willing to go to distance for it because on one day with a snap of a finger, one up one opportunity, it could all click and come to life. 100%.
SPEAKER_04You have to go, yeah, bro. That's why it's um yeah, you're your health is your wealth, bro, too. Like that's why it's important, like with the mental health, like take care of yourself, to make sure. That and then you have to have a passion, just a passion for whatever, and then the hustle, the ambition to keep going.
SPEAKER_00You have to have put the battery on your own back. Yeah, because sometimes nobody's gonna clap for you that's right. The marketing director, the manager, the talent, everything.
SPEAKER_04Promoter, the promoter, yeah, everything, bro. Which is you know a lot. But sometimes, like, um what is it? Um, people are born to be leaders, bro, and not followers. So it it's it's you following somebody, uh a manager, a time schedule is like crazy to you, you know, because you're a born leader, you know. Yeah, and I mean obviously we all had to go through the retail jobs. I've I've had retail jobs, worked hard in restaurants. You if I think if you work in a retail spot and restaurant, I think you know you know how people how people are more you know, you know how like society is.
SPEAKER_03Had to have this conversation, because it's the best time to have this conversation. Um, Instagram fucked up by putting um the actual note on Instagram, so I'll just be sky seeing it. Anything that comes to mind, I put it on there. And I put um that a surf uh a specific um nation has the best rice. Yeah. And I said, as a Jamaican, Haitians have the best rice.
SPEAKER_00Which I agree with. Is the black rice? Just rice in general. Just rice? We have multiple.
SPEAKER_03I had 20 to 30 DMs. So I literally came to bring the conversation to the podcast. Who makes the best rice?
SPEAKER_00And by the way, this is this is this is this is what makes us qualify. I'm Haitian, Gary's Jamaican, and Skye is Asian. So literally, we have the rice representatives. It's like the United Nations of Rice. We're just missing one Latino.
SPEAKER_04Missing one Latino, Latino.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Because they got they got some good rice. So who do you think makes them better? They got better women.
SPEAKER_04Nah, all of all around the world. Haitian Jamaican, we all got beautiful women. No, for sure. I mean, bro, I love white rice, so that's what I'm gonna go with. It's the worst one for you, but that's what I grew up eating.
SPEAKER_00Have you ever had Haitian food?
SPEAKER_04I've had Haitian food, yeah. How did you feel like? I I loved it. Okay. I loved it, bro.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna be.
SPEAKER_00Gary's married to a Haitian woman.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Haitians make the rest of rice. That's just my personal opinion. Because I actually, believe it or not, I out of all the Haitian restaurants I've been to, I actually haven't had bad rice. That's great. Close second. And when I'm saying, close second. Don't get chased out of Lake Worth. Asians make the best rice. Yeah, man. Because I'm saying, fried rice.
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SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00I'll say, I'll say, I'll say Asians got it.
SPEAKER_03Fried rice, y'all got it. I just had some earlier. When I be going to like, um, correct me if I'm wrong, sorry for my ignorance. I go to them like pie thai pot. Pie thai? That's the that's a Thai dish, yeah. Them them dishes, fine.
SPEAKER_04You like those, right? And the it's mostly rice. No, the pa's a noodle. It's a noodle? That's the noodles.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I had one but it had rice in it. So I guess I'm not.
SPEAKER_04But if there was noodles or no?
SPEAKER_03There was noodles, yeah.
SPEAKER_04With rice in it?
SPEAKER_03It was a mix, I guess. That's crazy. I mean, and it was like curry and shit, yeah. It wasn't like a it was probably a fusion spot. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04Because a pot thai is like noodles with peanuts and like, you know, chicken and like whatever, bean sprouts, stuff like that. But it's like a stir-fried noodle.
SPEAKER_03I know I'm gonna get killed for this, I'm being honest. I've been to some Spanish spots. Hey, La Granja, you got my heart. Pollo Tropical, you got my heart. La Braza. I wouldn't call Pollo a Spanish spot. But Cuban, Latin.
SPEAKER_04La Granja is Peruvian. Peruvian. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03You I we we get the message you chat. All I'm saying is like it'd be here, hit or miss for Spanish spots. If you know any Spanish spots that make really good rice, really good food, please let me know. Honestly, I haven't been impressed lately.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the hierarchy of rice is Haitian, Asian, Jamaican, and Latin. I like that order. Yeah, for this. My name is Cheech, and I fucking approve this message.
SPEAKER_04Y'all just hit me up.
SPEAKER_00And if you disagree with me, bring me a plate, buy me a plate, and I'll buy you a plate, and we'll see who enjoys which one better.
SPEAKER_04What's the color of the main color though, the Haitian rice? Like, we have like they have 20 different rice. We have 20 different rice. Three meats, 20 rice.
SPEAKER_00What's the best one though, in your opinion? I would say the the the the the johnjon or like the mixed peas, the the rice and peas.
SPEAKER_03I'm not even gonna attempt to say what's the Haitian way to say it, the colette, the uh. Yes. So pretty rice and beans, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's my red rice. So it's so I think the biggest flex with all rice is you you can eat it with no gravy. Like if it's hot and ready, you can just eat it. Right, exactly. You know, it's very flavorful, it's not mushy, it's not grainy.
SPEAKER_04Right, like uh texture.
SPEAKER_03I think the best dishes if you got Jamaican protein with Haitian rice, it's a fire place.
SPEAKER_00Best of both worlds right there.
SPEAKER_04I do like rice like that, though. You can just eat it, you know, without like it's already has like seasoning and flavor. Yeah. Because the white rice, the white ja white jasmine rice, that's like the best white rice.
SPEAKER_00The rice also almost compliments our women, man. Like, like it's like that. That's why Gary went and he's stuck. On that note, where can the people find you, right?
SPEAKER_03Where can the people find you? The rice? No. What can the people find me online? Yeah, for your endeavors, yes.
SPEAKER_00Um, you could give him your your your business plug.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, man. Sky's up there on IG, Sky Guy's uh detailing, and then restored by Sky is for their shoes, and then Sky Slide Gems is for their reselling pages.
SPEAKER_03Nice. Of course, man, of course, man. Sky, I appreciate you, Michael, for coming. I will appreciate you for having me, bro.
SPEAKER_00Uh, and you're officially a friend of the show. Whenever you have something to promote, whenever you want to swim by and kick it with the homies. I got you. You welcome it. You guys are down the street. But I'll even be part of our uh You're literally are you starting to say the spot?
SPEAKER_04Down the street. Drew's at Drew's spot at Drew's neighborhood.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay. That's right there. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you moved. Okay, you're not by the, you know, we're not even gonna give your location.
SPEAKER_00But yeah, I go by the name of Chi JK. The summer is mine, aka I'm back outside. Uh, it feels good to have uh it feels good to be single during the summertime. I'll say that.
SPEAKER_03And I go by the name of Gary, aka N Gary We Trust, aka Mr. Sneaker Convo, aka Happy Juneteenth.
SPEAKER_00Yes, and happy birthday to Gary's uh lovely lady. Her birthday is this weekend. Happy birthday. You know, shout outs to the first lady of the show. Thank you, guys. Shout out to Gail.
SPEAKER_03Shout out to the money will be spent.
SPEAKER_00And we learned this news today. I don't want to end on a morbid note, but R.I.P. Did take Keith. He uh tragically lost his life today. He was found in his apartment.
SPEAKER_04That's insane. That's that's how this is like what the day is, you guys know.
SPEAKER_00No details have been uh we literally found out today. Details have been announced, but you know, 29 years old, multimillionaire, gave some. Um, yeah, it it feels it feels you know, take care of yourself, take care of your mental. Um yeah, and guys, get life insurance. You know, that's that's that's important. I know people think we young, we don't need it, but it's a very smart investment.
SPEAKER_03Get life insurance, have your credit, and work on them. I don't do one of those things.
SPEAKER_00All right, that's honest.
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