Frank and Stan Chats
Frank Norris and Stan Johnson have been friends since 1995. Both have had successful and lengthy careers in education. Frank was a very senior HMI with Ofsted for 11 years and was the CEO of the Coop Academies Trust for 6 years. Stan was seconded to Ofsted for a year and then returned to headship before working as a senior adviser with Lancashire LA. He has latterly led a successful education consultancy in the North West.Prior to Covid-19 the two gents would meet in Manchester for a pint or two but the pandemic put an end to that. On 1 May 2020, they recorded their first video chat as a way of recording their emotions and reactions to the pandemic. After putting the video on Youtube as a safe place to store it they realised that some followers began to appear. Now, with over 110 episodes and having chatted to Professors, CEOs, journalists, teachers, former HMI, education thinkers and Frank's Key Stage 1 leading daughter they have a loyal following and a rapidly increasing number of viewers. The reach of the Frank and Stan Chat stretches from Bogota to Ottawa to Greece and their first Live Edition was recorded in front of nearly 200 Headteachers in York in spring 2022.The Chats are not undertaken to attract followers or for financial reward (nothing is received and nothing will be received). It is a way of airing views on education matters between two professional friends. The chats have helped them get through the pandemic and they are delighted that they have been enjoyed by others and appear to have helped others through it as well.If you fancy being a guest then just reach out. We never post a video unless the guest is comfortable with it. So, it is a relatively risk free environment.Thank you. Frank and Stan
Frank and Stan Chats
Frank and Stan Chat No. 215: The Kerry Harrison Edition
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Frank Norris and Stan Johnson
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Season 6
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Episode 23
The latest chat is with Kerry Harrison, the Digital Skills Coordinator for the Lancashire Skills and Employment Hub. Frank worked with Kerry when he was chair of the Blackpool Education Improvement Board and she was a key figure in engaging schools and Colleges in the digital and STEM drive that Frank led on. In addition to Kerry chatting about her varied career which leads the discussion into skills for employment, transition arrangements, the benefits of cross curricular planning and managing work while also being a parent we also chat about 'the dead cat' theory, gene therapy to regain sight and the negative impact of 'uncontrolled leadership based on false promises'. We loved the chat and we hope you do as well. Enjoy.