The Education Gadfly Show
For more than 15 years, the Fordham Institute has been hosting a weekly podcast, The Education Gadfly Show. Each week, you’ll get lively, entertaining discussions of recent education news, usually featuring Fordham’s Mike Petrilli and David Griffith. Then the wise Amber Northern will recap a recent research study. For questions or comments on the podcast, contact its producer, Stephanie Distler, at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.
The Education Gadfly Show
Innovation, regulation, and school choice, with Mike McShane | Episode 984 of The Education Gadfly Show
Mike McShane, Director of National Research for EdChoice, joins us on the Education Gadfly Show to debate tradeoffs when it comes to regulation and innovation in the charter school and private school choice sectors.
Then, on the Research Minute, Adam Tyner shares a report from the Urban Institute looking at college and career indicators and how they relate to research on post-high school outcomes.
Recommended content:
On school choice:
Overregulated charter schools: Fact or fiction? —Michael J. Petrilli
School choice should take the road less traveled —Robert Enlow and Michael Q. McShane, Education Next
Charter school regulation means keeping the destination in sight —Thibaut Delloue
From the Research Minute:
Which college and career readiness standards best align with positive outcomes after high school? —Kristin Blagg, The Urban Institute (July 2025)
The vibes for career-tech programs are great. But they’re too rare. —Michael J. Petrilli
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