Gather 'round the campfire, fellow turkey hunting aficionados, and join us at Rick's Cafe for a centennial celebration of the Spring Legion Podcast that's sure to ruffle some feathers—in the best way possible.
Our special guest, NFL's Logan Cooke, doesn't just punt footballs but also champions the cause for clean water in Kenya through his work with Zoe Ministries. Lake and Jordan, from OnX and Open Season, stop by to regale us with their journey from wide-eyed novices to seasoned pros in the outdoor industry. It's more than just an evening; it's an assembly of stories, charity, and the shared passion that ignites every hunter's spirit.
As dawn breaks over public lands, so do the tales of triumph and the odd gobbler that got away. This episode is your backstage pass to the strategies that mold the craft of turkey hunting, from the old-timer wisdom on roosting to the serendipity of an impromptu chase with a shotgun in hand. Listen closely as we unravel the twine that binds turkey behavior to the land we steward, with a nod to prescribed burns and their intriguing role in the ecosystem. Whether you're a seasoned veteran or a newcomer to the call of the wild, these anecdotes from the woods will surely add a few new feathers to your cap.
Let's talk turkey stamps, mouth call techniques, and the symphony of sounds that can make or break your spring hunting plans. The conversation flutters from tales of moonlit turkey landings to heartfelt discussions about wildlife conservation with experts like Adam Butler. And when it comes to finding the perfect pitch, we debate the merits of glass vs. slate with the gusto of a gobbler in full strut. So whether you're out there to listen, learn, or just enjoy the camaraderie, this episode of the Spring Legion Podcast is your ticket to the greatest show on dirt.
Check out the SPRING LEGION YouTube Channel to watch the hunts referenced on our show, as they happened and as real as it gets.
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Gather 'round the campfire, fellow turkey hunting aficionados, and join us at Rick's Cafe for a centennial celebration of the Spring Legion Podcast that's sure to ruffle some feathers—in the best way possible.
Our special guest, NFL's Logan Cooke, doesn't just punt footballs but also champions the cause for clean water in Kenya through his work with Zoe Ministries. Lake and Jordan, from OnX and Open Season, stop by to regale us with their journey from wide-eyed novices to seasoned pros in the outdoor industry. It's more than just an evening; it's an assembly of stories, charity, and the shared passion that ignites every hunter's spirit.
As dawn breaks over public lands, so do the tales of triumph and the odd gobbler that got away. This episode is your backstage pass to the strategies that mold the craft of turkey hunting, from the old-timer wisdom on roosting to the serendipity of an impromptu chase with a shotgun in hand. Listen closely as we unravel the twine that binds turkey behavior to the land we steward, with a nod to prescribed burns and their intriguing role in the ecosystem. Whether you're a seasoned veteran or a newcomer to the call of the wild, these anecdotes from the woods will surely add a few new feathers to your cap.
Let's talk turkey stamps, mouth call techniques, and the symphony of sounds that can make or break your spring hunting plans. The conversation flutters from tales of moonlit turkey landings to heartfelt discussions about wildlife conservation with experts like Adam Butler. And when it comes to finding the perfect pitch, we debate the merits of glass vs. slate with the gusto of a gobbler in full strut. So whether you're out there to listen, learn, or just enjoy the camaraderie, this episode of the Spring Legion Podcast is your ticket to the greatest show on dirt.
Check out the SPRING LEGION YouTube Channel to watch the hunts referenced on our show, as they happened and as real as it gets.
New Bottomland Woodsman Series Shirts and Pants are HERE for Spring 2024 at spring legion.com
Follow us on Instagram:
@springlegion
@hunter.farrior
@austincsills
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Shop Spring Legion Online, using code PODCAST24 for 10% off your next online order! Limited time offer
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Speaker 2:Alright, I'll try. Yeah, welcome everybody. Awesome turnout, glad to see everybody for round three of Talks in Turkey here preseason Mississippi turkey season at the marvelous ricks cafe. I Don't think there's anywhere else. We'd rather press this little REC button right here for the 100th time for the spring legion podcast and right here in a town that means a lot to all of us up here, really appreciate y'all coming out and all the support and everything and want to really Send our appreciation to ricks for hosting us and letting us come out here and hang out.
Speaker 2:We all talk a little turkey. Thank on X and open season for providing some Really good coat co-host up here, because it'd be pretty boring if it was just me up here and I'm I'm one of them. Founders bring legion and alongside chase for my brother and Austin Seales. If you all listen to podcast, y'all are Up to date on who these jokers are. Well, if y'all keep up with us, you know we're pretty good buddies with these two fine gentlemen down here. Lake and Jordan said like it's gonna give a little spill on who yeah, so I'm lake work for on X.
Speaker 3:Been with on X for two years now, I think when we first started this thing, I was still doing pre-mos all the time. But yeah, it's, it's fun to be up here for a third year in a row. This has become a really fun thing that we've gotten to do. And just to have y'all come out and For the sake of talking about turkeys for a little while is fun enough for me, and then, if y'all are for me with Jordan, I'll let him talk more about himself.
Speaker 4:But how long we work at premos together like six six or seven years and Jordan bliss it used to work with like it pre-mos, like he said, and full-time Working at open season properties and doing land management stuff on the side as well, so kind of made a transition in the last couple of years into the real estate world and We've all still became our still stayed buddies and friends and all love the turkey hunt together. So appreciate you having y'all out here tonight.
Speaker 2:Got one more turkey hunter that y'all might be familiar with, one I introduced real quick he's gonna come up to the stage and still Jordan's Mike. He is an avid outdoorsman and turkey hunter from Columbia, mississippi, I think, and down south, and he is currently has been stolen down to Florida for a few years because he's a starting punter for the Jacksonville Jaguars. A good, guyly man, a softer the earth kind of guy. Then we're, all you know, very proud to call him our friend. Mr Logan cooks here and he is going to also Forget to mention he's a Mississippi State along. He's a bulldog, that's the most important thing. But he, he's gonna give us a little spill on a little project he's got going, the one that we full, that we hold hard to the least support and hope that I'm after. Y'all get a little Listen on what he's got going over here with his mission. Y'all will as well.
Speaker 5:Yeah, appreciate Hunter and Austin and everyone else here having me Took a minute to get this mic on, but we got it figured out. But no, we have. This is the first year the Logan Cook Foundation has been going. We started it back in October and Just something. I mean, I feel like a lot of us had the same same passions and the same things we're, you know, we want to be involved with and and this is kind of something you might want to be involved with we have our first banquet. It's coming up Friday here in a couple days, down in Brandon Mississippi at McLean Lodge, and we have a ton of raffle items. We have guns, bows, hunting trips, fishing trips, jaguars, game day experiences. If you're, you know, passionate by the NFL, we have a Dak Jersey. So for all the Mississippi State fans and but yeah, so it. The local foundation started.
Speaker 5:I've been going into my seventh season in the NFL and me and my wife kind of, after the first couple years, kind of figured out that we, we wanted to do more. We kind of wanted to use our platform for something more beneficial than what we were doing, and so we decided to start our own foundation and this year, 2024, all the. The proceeds that we raised through the Logan Cook Foundation Foundation will go 100% towards Zoe Ministries, who's an organization We've partnered with the past three years now funding water wells in Kenya, right there on the Kenya Uganda border, and we're actually going to visit some of those locations this June. And so, yeah, it's just something cool.
Speaker 5:If you, if you know, if you're a passionate hunter, fisherman, love football, there's a lot of cool prizes, a lot of possible opportunities for you to have some cool trips and, and, yeah, I think it'd be a cool thing for you to be a part of and give back to a good cause. I appreciate it. If you want to make it down there, you can buy tickets at the Logan Cook Foundation Dot-com and or come talk to me after. I'll be sitting over here in the corner and, yeah, appreciate your time and love to see you there. Thanks, guys.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, um, yeah, we hope to see y'all there. We'll all be there At the, at the banquet there at McLean in a couple days and I guess it's about time. We'll kick off with a couple stories for him and jumping in a few questions. It's some live Q&A and giveaways and all the good stuff they are probably really here for. But oh, I'm gonna kick it off with a story I don't think I've told like might have one to follow in, but I'm sure he does. You get a story telling. Well, hopefully I ain't gonna give Ram the too long, but I did.
Speaker 2:I was thinking about on the drive up here coming to 25 and I'm a familiar drive for years of my life, at least five of them but um, but I was thinking about kind of Turkey hunt around Starville and if y'all Read the book or anything like that, you know that I kind of cut my teeth on public land Turkey hunting around here in the northern part of the state and along with that came myself getting those teeth kicked in by some public land turkeys in the remote area right around this, this little junction here, and learned a lot that year. Learned and a new appreciation for the wild turkey and and those who hunt them as well. As it's a truly different culture Down here, and especially we kind of dabble into some of the Bubba clan. It's um, it's a, it's a different beast. I don't care what anybody says, and it was new to me when I was up in college. I was kind of just by a product of elimination, had to go figure it out and learned a lot, like I said, but Stories I'm gonna tell was kind of the following year I'd get to, I think, here at Turkey gobble on public lander and For some reason I don't know why, it sounds a little bit crazy. But to come back up here on opening weekend to try it again. But I was up here. I Was the golden school here at Mississippi State and I was bound and determined to figure out these woods. That it really I was. I mean I Can't really explain any better than I felt like I was hunting goats for a whole year.
Speaker 2:I don't know how many times I went hunting without hearing one, but I did and I kept going, I kept going and it really got on skin and so I spent the in-between times of May and March Studying this area as much as I couldn't, figuring out how to get into a bunch of areas where I would think other turkey hunters wouldn't be as willing to go, and found some a pretty good little bottom, real open, look like Turkey was. Me and About February 2nd started going to listen to turkeys and I listened, I think, all 28 days of February and hadn't really heard anything. And then I want to say it was on the 19th February, I remember this because it was Austin's birthday and it was I Was out there. I was kind of, you know, have my back against the hood of my truck. I'm a green leaf jacket on, just popped up around.
Speaker 2:You know, general goblin time, I would say. Would that be six, fifteen, maybe Somebody knows breaking day. Every other time I listen to gobbels about a good time for that. And I'm sitting there and I see some headlights coming down the gravel road and Bill cloud of dust kind of comes up to me and I think the dust settles and it's a Dodge Durango and it's just. You know it's still pretty dark and I can tell the gentleman driving that was rolling down his window and you know Kind of wave the dust out of my face and kind of peaked in and you know I could tell he flipped on his you know truck cab light.
Speaker 2:He's kind of stairs that mean neither of us really say a word for a second. He just says Too late. And I was like I didn't know what to say. I don't know what he was talking about. I'm thinking you know I'm the word of this old man, know that, um, know that I'm even out here listening for turkeys. How does he know that I haven't heard one? And sure as heck, how does he know the turkey that I hadn't heard gobble has already gobbled Because he hadn't driven down here while I was standing here and I don't think none of them. You, in those kind of situations you don't really ask questions. You should say yes, sir, and I kind of went on about my business. Oh, he, I, for some reason, I think his name was John, I don't know, but I and I was thinking about it for a while. I'm like I know I've thought about this before and I'm he either told me his name, I made it up, I don't know, but I think his name is mr John and I kind of come together that he lived down that road. He wasn't out there listening for turkeys or anything. So I'd seen, you know, a couple times, or a Drango a couple times and and so I figured you know he must have been a local house down there, something like that, and For all I know I guess he was talking about turkeys, but he never really Explained much before. He kind of put it back and drive and carried on Fast forward into March, I want to say on March 15th.
Speaker 2:It might have been a day after opening day, but I think I drove up from kind of our hometown of Raymond, left real early, got up there, kind of the same area, I'd say. I don't, I don't Really remember where I parked or anything like that, but I was sitting there and got out. I got there about she 430 or so because I was I mean, keep in mind I still ain't really heard a trick you up on this place and I just driven Multi-file hours to come hunt something that I don't know is there and I'm getting there early. Make sure nobody beats me to this spot, that for all I know nobody wants to be at the spot. Anyways, and I'm out outside getting stuff together and you know the house cutting up and some of the you know the usual nighttime choir of nature is kind of just kind of going on about itself. And no, it's funny because it was just a split second of just sounds. For a second I hear a pow. There's a quick one out to my left and I'm thinking, hmm, I wouldn't say it was a gobble, but it was nothing. I raised my eyebrow, raised the ear up. I think I want to just for a second. I sit back and I wouldn't get back to get my stuff together. I would dang it by the ear and it was pow. I'm sitting there. I'm like, okay, I start really getting my stuff together.
Speaker 2:At this point Keep in mind it ain't even five o'clock yet I'm putting my vest on, get my gun and stuff. I'm thinking my best option is to head down this little gully coming off the side of the road and as another ridge comes up, I head down and come up and thinking, if nothing else, I can get up there and either confirm it is or isn't, if it's a dog or something, I've got enough time to get back to the road and hear the other side or get where I was going. Anyways, I grab my gun, get down in there and hop back up on this other ridge. Sure enough, I hear a pow. I'm like that's a gobble. I know that's a gobble. I look back. I don't even know if I should have to do it on my truck, but this is first time in 30, something tries. I'd heard a gobble out here. I take off and I swear it took me 10 minutes to cover half a mile because I don't even think I looked down. I'd just been so familiar with this ground I knew where every downlaw crossed every creek and all this good stuff, where every little pig trail went through the thickest and stuff. There's batholice resistance to get there.
Speaker 2:If I'm lying down, I'm sitting there 100 yards from this turkey and he is lighting the woods on fire, 100 yards from me. Now, when I'm back against the tree, kind of thinking what in the world? And if it is a minute past 5.15, it's high noon and it is pitch black, dark out there, and that turkey just gobbles and gobbles and gobbles and gobbles until about about 5.45 or so, six o'clock, and he just he gets cold and I'm thinking you start running through them scenarios. You're like what's happening? Somebody else had bumped him off the limb. I know he didn't see me because I sat down and he got up with 55 times after I sat down. You know I wasn't even thinking about doing any kind of calling or anything like that. But I'm thinking somebody didn't come in from the backside and bumped him off the limb or something. Do I get up and head on out?
Speaker 2:And by that time I got to thinking about that old man who stopped me a month ago. He said you're too late. I'm like that hasn't been what he was talking about. He knew about this turkey. I had no idea at the time this guy had a turkey hunt or anything. Never mentioned it really. But I got to sit in there thinking I'm like a guarantee, and so I sat there and just kind of like, just trusting my gut that's exactly what he was talking about that I was too late listening that morning and obviously he'd seen me parked there multiple times and he's probably shaking his head going to work or coming home from work, working a night shift or something going.
Speaker 2:That boy you know he ain't gonna hear that turkey showing up at six o'clock like that. And sure enough that turkey gobbled about. He was on the ground next time he gobbled. I think I remember correctly. I waited until about I could start hearing some you know tires popping behind me and stuff like that. It started breaking daylight a little bit. It'd be an early fly down, but it was enough to make a little sense to fly down in a couple of tree yelps and sure enough, he gobbled. He got on the ground I heard some wings, I'd say Not long after that and he gobbled about 150 yards in front of me.
Speaker 2:And I'm telling you to this day, probably among the prettiest things I've seen in the turkey was I don't get to do this often.
Speaker 2:I mean I'm just talking chalk right head of a gob that's strutting through these open, open, open bottom down here sifting, you know, sifting in the whole way. And it took him, I swear, two hours to get to the tree y'all's on, but from 150 to 20 yards. I got there staring him in the eye and it made everything worth it, made everything all the humblings that I'd been through at that point, you know, learning how to turkey hunt on public land a lot more worth it. And I won't say that happened anymore after that. But if I had to go through a season and a half of doing that again, I wouldn't heart beat. But that's the one I don't think I've ever really told or ever really elaborated on, and it just happened to kind of connect to our time spent up here, and I know the legs got several around this part, but I'll let you just kind of mosey on into I don't know, it sounded like a good one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, can y'all hear me? Okay? Good, here we go. So, in the nature of Hunter telling the story of his first turkey up here, I thought I would fall into a similar vein, and when I went to school up here, it'll make me sound old saying this, but it was.
Speaker 3:I was up here, it was like 2012, I think, and I remember not being too worried about the public land turkey situation because I was like man, public land turkeys is kind of what I do a lot at home. That's what I started out at. And so then I first time that I went out here and hunted it was well, I just tell the story the first I'd gone out there and scouted and I found a turkey and for some reason in my young, naive mind I was like I'm the only one that knows about this turkey, which was false. And so I go out there open day and not by any strategy or me really knowing what was going on. But I somehow, in the dark, sit down at this tree and the turkey starts gobbling on the limb and he's about 100, 120 right here. And then, as the day breaks and I started hearing some clucking and yelping. I realized that there's a flock of hens like 40 yards right here. So I'm like man, I'm in the driver's seat, you know, and so they start yelping. These turkey starts gobbling, these end. I mean, like I want you know it's early season in Mississippi. There's virtually no foliage on the trees, so you can see really well. I see these hens start pitching down and there's like five of them and they pitch down and for I know what. They're like 45 yards directly behind me and these turkeys are gobbling and a. I kind of saw a bit of a turkey right here, pitched down, but they had to go down into a bottom and then pop up to the ridge. I was on and I hadn't even called yet. I was like man, they're going to come, they're going to come right here. This is perfect. They get down at bottom, the goblin gets closer and you can tell it's a group of them as early season offense in up and I'm just sitting there waiting on them and all of a sudden, boom, and I see turkeys fly off and next thing I know I see a guy come walking out toting a turkey. And that was my first experience on public land up here and the rest of the season was about more of the same. I did not. I killed turkeys that year, but I didn't kill them on on any public. I got royally butt whipped and so I realized I had to kind of tune in my tactics a little bit.
Speaker 3:And so second spring up here rolls around and a very good friend of mine had told me that you know, it would be probably a good idea. He said hunt odd hours, which to my young mind is like odd hour. You know what he mean. And it's you know the classic. You know everybody gets out there and hunts daybreak and hunts till about 930 and then they got class to go to or something and then they bail, they're gone.
Speaker 3:One morning I was in the soils class and my first cousin, tanner Clinton, was in the same class with me. We get out of class and it's like 830, 9 o'clock and we're talking. I said I got a lab, I got to go to it one and this, that, and Tanner's got a class at whenever and I just I want to whim. I look at him, I say you want to go hunt a turkey? And he's like we're at us. Well, there's a spot where I've been finding them in the morning, let's go in there. He's like okay, so we load up, run to the Highlands, run to my house, get my stuff, he gets his stuff, and we take off and we walk in there and just sit down.
Speaker 3:And this next part of this story contains two events, one of which is very uncharacteristic of me. And one is very characteristic of me If you know my history of shooting at turkeys. It's tumultuous. But we sit there and we yell up and call every 10 minutes, like you're supposed to and whatever, and hadn't heard anything. And finally we make the decision. I said, if we don't hear anything or get into anything, but I think we said, like 11 o'clock or 12, something like that, it's like we've got to get out of here. You know it's like because we're not into anything, I don't need to miss this lab.
Speaker 2:Well.
Speaker 3:I just dig through my mouth, call pouch, and I pick out this mouth call and with no sense of being serious at all, just me being me, I go this, here's the secret weapon. And I pop that call in my mouth and I like cluck four times and yell a couple of notes and Tanner's looks at me and like, like, somehow he thought I knew that was going to happen. And I was like you bet, and it took. We struck that turkey and at that point the idea of me making that lab just went out of my mind. And that was the you know me, striking that turkey, calling my shot, like that. That was the part of the story that was not characteristic of me. That doesn't happen. But I think that it was two of them and I think that gobbled three or four more times and they didn't just come charging in, by any stretch of the imagination, but they were just constantly gaining ground. And for one, for a little while, we, you know, went quiet and it had been a couple of minutes I don't know how long it was in actuality, but they've been a couple of minutes where nothing had happened. I had stopped calling the turkeys to stop gobbling and I couldn't stand it anymore and so I decided I'm going to yelp just soft and I start yelping and then, like, as I'm yelping, I still see Tanner sitting there through his face mask and I yelp like two notes and I just see Tanner's eyes just get real big and I just stop. And as soon as I stopped yelping I can hear him walking. I mean, there was a little bit of a rise and I just kind of sink down into my gun and I just remember these two full fans just cresting that ridge and I'm like they couldn't, they could. Those turkeys couldn't push their head back any further into their feathers if they tried to. And I'm for a second there, and this is the part of the story that's very characteristic of me. This is very much within my wheelhouse.
Speaker 3:I got lost in the sauce for quite a while. I'm just sitting there looking at him and finally I'm like, oh yeah, I need to shoot one of these. And they're like 20 yards just strutting, drumming and doing things. And if you were to ask me like where's your beat at, I would say I don't know, but I'm going to pull this trigger. And so, and they were right on the edges ridge and I shot, and the turkey that one turkey flew like flew straight up in there, and the turkey that I shot at just kind of disappeared on the other side of the ridge, and also me. Me and me only had two shells on me that day and I done spent one of them, and so the turkey that I shot at kind of disappears over the ridge and I don't know if I shot him or what, and I stand up and go to running and when I top that ridge I realize that turkey's running too, and that's the part that's characteristic of me.
Speaker 3:And so, thing number one pay attention to where you're aiming. The head is where you want to go. Thing number two don't run with the shotgun. But I did that day and I take off running and my shotgun's over my back and this turkey is obviously hit to some degree, because I've almost caught up to him and I'm not what you would say speedy, and so sitting here, sprinting after this turkey to the point where I think I'm close enough to grab him, and then I'm thinking you idiot, you have a shotgun. So I stopped and pulled on and shoot him, and then I got the turkey and just fell out on the ground, and I remember, holding the turkey in this hand, my shotgun in this hand. I was just looking up like this and I remember Tanner coming and looking over me being like dude you okay, because I was just laying there, just, but that was my first turkey up here. Yeah, it was a meantful. That's how most of my turkey stories go. Jordan can attest to that.
Speaker 4:I've seen the same thing play out a few times, yeah.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, that was my first rodeo up here.
Speaker 2:We I don't know if we all got into telling stories, stories, I think we would be here till 11 o'clock and I know y'all want to hear what y'all have requested and we can kind of put a little thing on our social media stuff. If you something y'all might be here today who submitted some of these questions, topics or you know points to hit while we're up here talk, you know, just turkey hunters over here to do and we had a couple send in. I thought it would line well with some of some of our individual professions a little bit. And the first one I read it and immediately thought of mr Jordan over here, because he is the guru and it said I want a piece of recreational land and would like to start implementing prescribed burns for a better habitat. What all will I need to begin burning, I guess? And he put like a dash like permits, equipment, people.
Speaker 4:You know steps necessarily well, the first thing is to find somebody that is burning and go watch them a few times. That's first. Also, if you don't have that option, there's a lot of information on YouTube articles, read about how to get started and prescribed burning or controlled burns, whatever you want to call them. Another option too, and it's something I did a lot to kind of I didn't know I was doing it at the time, but it helps me now is a burning your yard off, burning little corners of your, just to figure out how fire works, because it is a. It's a great thing to use, but it's also dangerous and it can get out of hand and a heartbeat and your neighbors won't be too happy if you burn their house down. But I mean, it is what it is that we were on the way up here today and or this morning I had a guy call me and say, hey, you burning such and such part of the yeah as you can. I was like no, I ain't up here today. And he's like, well, they don't have a fire, get out and it's on, burn up over a thousand acres of land and pickings and anyway, well, that that just shows you like today it was a very high pressure but it was also very unpredictable gust of wind and fire can do some crazy things with when the wind gets behind it. But to get started, if you got a little bit of experience behind you, if you somewhat know what you're doing, been doing it a little bit, where you kind of understand how backing fires work, head fires work and the wind plays accordingly with smoke transfer and whatnot, when you get ready to burn your place, get some lanes pushed around it. If you don't have a bulldozer, go in there with a rake leaf blower. Logan and I yesterday were burning. He run two tanks of gas out of his leaf blower trying to get a little lane pushed around, but it worked.
Speaker 4:Another thing is when you decided to burn, that day called Mississippi forestry commission asked for a burn permit. They're going to ask you who's the landowner, who's doing the fire, their phone number. They're going to need to lat and long or address of the fire location, the amount of acres you're planning on burning. What's the purpose of the burn? For most of us it's going to be wildlife purposes slash timber and then they'll tell you okay, you can burn from this time of day to this time of day and a lot of times they'll give you a weather report if you request it and they'll kind of help you with that through the phone, like hey, it's not a really good day to burn, even though we're giving out permits or give you an idea about that.
Speaker 4:So there's a lot that goes into it. Weather is a big thing. I mean fuel load in your forest is huge if you've got a heavy, dense fuel load and fuel load is the amount of debris, shrubs, whatever is flammable in that timber land and you know the safer fires I would say is like a pine stand that doesn't have a bunch of brush growing in it. You're pretty much just burning pine straw. That's probably the best thing to start on if you're just getting started burning off, because somewhat manageable as it's not crazy wind and a lot of fuel in there.
Speaker 3:I had a guy that was telling me he was doing it in terms of quail management, but he had a guy burning. It was like a behia grass field which really wasn't of any value to anything because the native seed bank wasn't there, but it was just so the guy could get comfortable with burning. Because one thing and you probably could speak to this too it's here lately like burning has become a more popular topic, which is awesome. But then there comes like there's a lot of folks that they would, I guess, like the person asked that question. They're like what I even start with that so, and the Mississippi forestry association.
Speaker 4:They have classes you can take and also become a certified prescribed burn manager, and whether you're going to do it for somebody else, a living or whatever, I mean it's worth going to those classes just to learn. There's also some online classes for kind of pre-bricks for that you take and it's pretty helpful too far as learning the kind of the temperament of weather and fire, how they mix.
Speaker 3:It's shameless plug. Since we're on the topic of burning, like this Saturday, up here in Starkville there's a game bird weekend that's getting put on by the MDWFP and Mississippi state and I think there's not many tickets left, but there's a few. I think it's like in the single digits, but if you signed up for that, it's like an in person. You go to a property, I mean, they're going to put a drip torch in your hands and you're going to get some hands on education, which what you were talking about. That is. The best way to learn is to go with somebody that knows what they're doing, and there's going to be a lot of folks there that know what they're doing.
Speaker 2:Heck, yeah. Yeah, I need to take them up on that. Yeah, I told you all Jordan was a good read.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know if y'all noticed coming up 12 today it was. It was a lot of smoke. Yeah, they're burning something good.
Speaker 2:It was hard to see coming on coming there some of the meals which is pretty awesome because you know what's going on.
Speaker 1:It puts you in the mood kind of, yeah, get ready.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like we have the MDWF convention, which is kind of the kickoff or whatever. But my I guess my switch starts getting a little wobbly around the end of January, although the season starts shutting off and you start noticing some flowers here and there and I'm like, all right, goblins are coming and stuff, and you know that past couple years been a little hectic around in MDWF is that, you know, doing stuff up there instead of just attending like we usually do. But that's kind of the kickoff and then you kind of come. When you come back it's almost like that going spring. You know it's time to go listen. You start seeing smoke in the air and folks doing all that good stuff and it's, and then it's here, you know. But let's say, let's roll along with them. This one is all right, it's a chase, all right, you ready, I guess how can I most accurately gauge a gobble when roosting a bird, like in the evening In the evening, okay.
Speaker 2:Not a roosted bird, but like you know if you're going out in the evening to roost one.
Speaker 1:All right, I don't roost often, but the one I do. There's a few tactics I use. If you hear one, hopefully you have two people. That's my number one cause If you can have two folks split up, you know if you got a bend in the road or another couple ridges and stuff in between. I like to send a guy a couple hundred yards down and you know hoot and he knows my hooting. Or I know his hoot and he'll put a line and I'll put a line and pretty much where they intersect you know if you drop it on on X or something like that, you send drop pin on the gobble, drop on pin.
Speaker 3:Where you think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can use your little compass tool or whatever I think, and drop your pin out there about where you think he is and they'll do one from there. And if you're by yourself, if he's gobbling long enough, which in Mississippi you know- you're lucky to get two or three out of them if you're on a good day, but if you can get one from you know a couple hundred yards apart, I think, where they X is where I like to assume they are.
Speaker 1:You know, that's one tactic I use. I mean, it's a lot of times in the morning I do that too. I'll hear one and move down until I almost pass him, if he's in the woods two or three hundred yards, and then that kind of gives me a gauge of where to shoot in the cut. If that explains anything, yeah.
Speaker 6:It kind of worked out for us in Alabama last year too.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 6:That we were all three and we were kind of starting up and down the road and every all three of us dropped a pin and ended up. Where the lines intersected was about where me and Chase started, and we're not about where that turkey was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretty much you draw a triangle on that bird like this. You know, one guy stayed in the triangle and Hunter walked up this way and Seals walked up this way and pretty much you know we had three or four different lines going on and half if he gobbled. When you're halfway to your destination of however far you want to walk up the road, you drop a pin there too. And I mean we had like six lines crossing at one particular spot and it was like he has to be there and then me and Seals went in there and got under him pretty close.
Speaker 1:That next morning he just went the other way yeah it was one of the things.
Speaker 2:I think I get. So this is the time I'm thinking of. I walked like a mile. I swear this turkey had to been on the ground. I was trying to hear yeah, I kept going and kept going and kept going and kept going and kept going and going, and going Well.
Speaker 6:after we got there the next day, we realized why the way the terrain was because he wasn't moving where me and Chase were.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You kept going and going, and it was just that funnel that he was gobbled down and that is another thing I like to look at is the terrain in there. I mean, if I'm familiar with it, I normally know when there's a ridge or something that you know, 90 percent of the time they fly off of a ridge or fly into a ridge or both, both I mean. So if you know there's a big ridge in there, you can kind of gauge he's on one side or the other. You know, as long as you can, you can judge the foliage on the trees to know how loud he'll be.
Speaker 1:You know, you can kind of tell a lot of times if he's on that side of the ridge or this side of the ridge, whether you need to come in from this way or come in from this way, and creeks will sometimes give him away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the most it is, if you think he's right here, but there's also a creek right there.
Speaker 1:He's probably actually over there and the sound's coming up on there, yeah.
Speaker 2:The highest elevation is a little further than what it seems like. He's probably just up there, and you know, something's between you and him.
Speaker 1:If I can figure out close to where he's at. I don't like pushing right up on the drum. If I can, I just get kind of in that same area or come in from the other side of him and then I'll know, like, okay, he is still in there. Okay, b, you know, I came in from the left instead of the right this time, you know, as I was the night before and you know, and then I can judge it from where I was standing the other night to here. Alright, he's down about 200 yards and he sounded about 300 yards from that for the trailer, whatever it may be, and then I can kind of know where to set up and I like to stay back about 100 yards from him, if that's about as close as I want to get to one, just because I bumped too many. Oh yeah, especially when the leaves start getting on the trees. Your ears ain't used to it and you're walking under them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, first week of April you got to really reset everything.
Speaker 1:That was the first week of season this year, yeah, this past season.
Speaker 6:I mean, I was looking more.
Speaker 1:I looked up and I was under that one opening day and I was like I'm too close. I mean I bumped one hand already. I was like I got to sit down.
Speaker 2:That's going. I think, if I remember correctly, you got a question that's going to piggyback off of that one. So it says if you, if you're hunting familiar ground and a gobbler is on the limb, says the next morning Rooster or not, I don't guess it matters, I can cover both of them.
Speaker 6:Alright, is this two different answers?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Would you rather slip in close or set up in a bottom where you hurt him the day before?
Speaker 6:So if I know where he's roosted, I'm going to get there early and I'm going to try to slip in as close to where kind of like what me and Jayce did as close to where we think he is and then wait for a gobble before I make my you know, close, more ground. But If I don't know where he is, I just hear him that morning and I know the terrain. I'm still going to try to get as close as I can.
Speaker 6:You may not have gotten there as early, because you don't know where he's reached. I'm going to still try to push as close as I can, and it also depends on the first two weeks, or you know the last two weeks. Well, yeah, because you can slip a lot closer once you get the foliage on the tree.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 6:So in that situation, I'm going to try to get as close as I can, because, even though I think it said, even though he was gobbling in a you know where he gobbled yesterday morning, but the chances of them doing the same exact thing are slim.
Speaker 6:So I'm going to try to get as close to him as I can and at least let him hear me before he flies down. But, and especially if I know where he is the night before, the evening before, Because when I'm getting there it's hard to when I'm with you, but I'm getting there really early and slipping there and just sitting by a tree until he gobbles. But you know, other than that I try to get as close, I try to gauge with him when I'm about a hundred yards from him.
Speaker 6:And then I'll kind of settle down and see what you know what his next move is, but yeah, and if you can, you can see you can squeeze another 50 yards out of him after he gobbles.
Speaker 1:good, you can move in. Yeah. And a quick question off of that was you know, did he say get in the bottom with him?
Speaker 5:or not.
Speaker 1:I think he meant like just get close to him, or not.
Speaker 2:Well, no, no, no, no, like they usually got out of, I've been in his shoes before. You know this turkey from every which way and every single time. It seems like he sometimes winds up around you and in the same bottom and you. I just go sit in the bottom way, don't.
Speaker 6:Except when you end up in the bottom.
Speaker 2:Then goes in the bottom way. Don't mean he's not. He's gonna be on top of the ridge where you're wearing it.
Speaker 1:A lot of times, you know, if you've got two ridges, a good low, he's poor. You know that's considered the bottom, turkey's gonna be roosted on a tree that's coming out of that bottom because he flew off one of the side hills and it's gonna fly into one of the side hills. Or if you have, you know, one ridge.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And my best chance with that is getting on the other side of that ridge. Been in there, if it's one singular ridge on the right and he's in the bottom roost somewhere here. I'm gonna be set up on this side of that ridge, right over the knoll, I would like to be 30 yards and that's I call what you were just talking about, kind of.
Speaker 2:I call him like a point of option, kind of I think Turkey's gonna get to where they can see this ridge and this ridge, or at least hear this ridge and see that ridge, or vice versa, or something like that to really I might think Turkey's like to have the cake and they'll need it to. That's them. I know they like to roost over water, for safety reasons, more so than anything, but I think marginally it does depend. It can be attributed to the way sound carries on water. They're louder, they can be heard from a further distance. And then also, you know, I don't like walking through creeks as much as the Turkey probably doesn't like walking through creeks. I don't think they like them Just necessarily flying with them left and right. So I think they like to roost where they can either pick this out or this side, depending on where the ends are at, and they like to get on them.
Speaker 2:You know tall spots or something where they can hear multiple places, or see a place and hear the other place, and I've seen it a lot of times.
Speaker 2:You know if he's end up and he'll be kind of you know the hands move on. He'll move on to an extent, but he'll stop and gobble and gobble and gobble and gobble, hoping you come to him. But he doesn't like you know. He's three steps from losing eye contact with where he thinks you last were and you know he's gonna. He's gonna throw the kitchen sink at you instead of you throw the kitchen sink at him, trying to talk you into just at least trailing along so he can keep you and not have to burn these bridges. But yeah, a lot of times I will see them come off a ridge, you know, roost in the top of a tree that's rooted in the bottom and they'll pick one or the other. And I mean that also gives them I think they like to land in the ridges because it kind of catches them and not see them landing the bottom like a dig on. You know, a real airstrip.
Speaker 3:So there was a time Jordan and I were hunting together. You'll remember this hunt. It was the COVID spring. It was like it was early I mean it may have been the third day of the season, because I know we hunted the same place on the first day of the season and we got this side of the turkey and the turkey pitched down and went that way and we still didn't know, like really good, we didn't know if the turkey was in the same spot, we didn't know exactly where we were went. We just kind of know we went that way. And so we come in from the other side and we're trying to get somewhat close, assuming he'd be in the same block of woods and like in the moonlight it was a bright, you know, full moon Jordan spotted the track in the mud. You remember that this is the one. It was like the first one you killed that spring because we filmed the track in the mud. It's like we sat down in the turk, like we're in Florida, mississippi, mississippi, oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:The one. I mean like we sat down and I don't even know if the turkey had gobbled yet, but it was early enough. You would not think a turkey would fly down. We hadn't yelped at all and like Jordan sat down I'm still trying to get the camera stuff ready and I hear Jordan go like and I look up and it was bright enough where, if you looked in the sky, it was light enough, and I just see the silhouette of a turkey. Just he land. I mean he just landed like 40 yards out in front of us and Jordan had to wait a few minutes because he couldn't see. I mean, it's so dark it was. But that ain't skill. We just got lucky that day.
Speaker 2:I'd rather be looking skilled a lot of days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, that was like that one when I killed when I was 12, flew across that cut over 200 and something yards. I think I've told this story before.
Speaker 2:That was one of the gold thing I've seen.
Speaker 1:He coasted like this 200 yards stayed about that high over some, cut some eight-year-old pine and dropped down from here to the bar Boom. I mean I thank goodness it was sage sage grass behind him, or I wouldn't have seen him. I'd been able to see him. I picked out a silhouette and shot him. I was like one minute after shooting.
Speaker 2:I was thinking about might have killed the first turkey in Mississippi, legally on Jay's weekend. It was his weekend, I'm telling you it couldn't have been 120 seconds after shooting light started. I mean almost you couldn't see the turkey, but he sure enough if it wouldn't have been just a little bit of a cloudy backdrop. You're kind of sitting there watching and watching, and watching and watching, just getting bigger and bigger and bigger, because I was kind of just sitting down behind you.
Speaker 1:I forgot you were there. I was there.
Speaker 2:I went back the next morning. Pretty much the same thing happened. I mean, it's the first thing you ever miss, yeah. That's pretty pissed.
Speaker 1:We don't talk about that.
Speaker 2:Can't hope we could, yeah, but but yeah, I mean, y'all got some more stuff, we're going to get into some live stuff and then it's really to the wolves at that point.
Speaker 1:Well, that bird also landed in two inches of water. Do you remember that? Which was weird he landed in? I mean, it was ankle deep water right there and he, like a duck, would. It was odd, he just wanted to be there.
Speaker 2:Bad, I think it was a good bird Cause he just got down the road. So but that's all. I only picked a handful of stuff to premeditated. You know, stuff that we got to get from our social media followers and stuff like that I suppose we interact with and stuff, and there was a lot more now. So we didn't get to apologize for your, you know, good opportunity to ask some live Q and a hope y'all you know staying awake out there and everything.
Speaker 2:And I want to remind you, if you, we're going to be doing some giveaways and some memberships on X and a bunch of a bunch of a bunch of spring leases stuff we're going to be giving out here shortly. So if you ain't got a wrap, a ticket, we'll have a period before the end. Just run over there to see a old bracket to merge table and grab one of them tickets and I'm going to put them in a boxer bag or something and be pulling out. I don't know how many lines it being, but six, eight, 10, something kind of like that. So get you some free stuff where you go home tonight and then I'm following that. We'll be hanging out and talking, checking in and stuff like that. But we'd like to get a couple of live cues for the A's. If y'all got any, just raise your hand and you might talk loud. But if we can see you, we'll see what you got.
Speaker 1:What's our opinion on the turkey stamp they're looking to do?
Speaker 3:I talked to. I mean, granted, I probably if me knowing that there might be a turkey stamp, that means I know a little bit more than maybe everybody else right now, but I don't know a whole lot about it. So, surface, I mean I know a little bit. I talked to Adam Butler about it the yesterday. I think If Adam does what he says it's going to do, then it's a no brainer. I mean, obviously, because the way it's supposed to work, I mean there was an article.
Speaker 3:If you are interested in the turkey stamp, there's an article that was written in the Clarion ledger that you can. I mean I posted the link on my Instagram store today if you could. You wanted to go and find it and read up about it, but it is meant to be like a very good thing. I mean, if you, it would make it to where, if you're going to Turkey on here in this state, you're going to have to pay a little bit, a little bit more money. But if I have to pay a little bit more money and it's good for turkeys, then I'm going to pay a little bit more money. You know what I'm saying. So if the turkey stamp does what it's supposed to do, then I'm all for it.
Speaker 2:Will we be able to kind of you, should we be able to kind of reject the number of Turkey hunters Mississippi by way of this, whether, not, being a universal, everybody gets one.
Speaker 3:You would have, you would, I mean so, the, so the everyone is familiar with the duck stamp or you know you have a federal duck stamp and a state duck stamp and so, like they're not, you know, even the biologists aren't going to say that this state duck stamp is a super accurate representation like to the number of how many waterfowl hunters are have, because there are a handful of folks that buy the stamp and never hunt. But it would give a way better gauge of what number we have than what we have right now, Because right now it's. I mean, they can get it kind of close, but it's still speculating. If you make it where you have to buy a stamp, they could get a really good number.
Speaker 2:And I'll speak on. Yeah, we're going to have to have him. He's a good deal. Adam Butler, he's a good deal. He's a turkey hunter, I mean. And to have him, you know, kind of at the helm of anything is going on With the department, it is, we're very blessed. But I thought a lot of folks cross country, and every single one of them says anything that we are very lucky to have him Kind of heading our stuff up. So anything he's got going on a promise is a is a good thing.
Speaker 3:Everything Adam does is science and research based. And Any more questions Out of state trips plan Y'all go first, I'm going with the wind blows, yeah, we don't we?
Speaker 6:we travel with a hunter most of the time we don't have any plans. Yeah, load up and go.
Speaker 2:Seals is the planner he's the, and I haven't planned anything this year.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I'm, I said I planned something on the way here but for South Florida, but it was our plan.
Speaker 1:We just we just try to tend to you, keep the truck loaded and ninety percent of our trips happen about Between nine pm and 2 am. It's a tax getting the truck. There's a pin or yours, a state or head north week.
Speaker 3:And then I know I've got, I'm taking my, my dad and my brother to Iowa. That was the whole story and its own. My well, my brother killed his first turkey last spring, which that was fantastic. And then my dad missed the turkey last spring, which I guess I get it honest, because Lord knows I've missed my fair share of turkeys. And then where's who take I'm taking, we're going to Texas because I owe my wife, because I took her to Texas last year and it was a disaster. Montana, I think. That's all I got like dialed in. So, yeah, I mean yeah, fairly been there. I try to make spring like we got some amount of trips nailed down, but I like to leave a little bit of variability in there so you can, you know, stay on your toes if you want to.
Speaker 2:But yeah, definitely got some planned out and I will say I'm notorious flying by seeing my pants, but this, this past spring, I did learn the importance of weather and not I would try to get a route that was most efficiently timed. I guess you'd say going here and going there and you know, trying to clip this. You know little spot, you can get a, get a tag at this half of the state and then attacking this half of the state. You don't have to travel too far to hunt. You know, if you kill a turkey here, you're not far from another place that you're permitted to kill one. But hunting the weather was much more important than I would expect.
Speaker 2:I spent a long time, you know multiple days, in a region of the country that I had no business being in. I mean, season was open and birds were there to be killed. But I mean I just, I mean just really. You know like a better turn is pissing in the wind for 34 days and you know watching my buddies who went east instead of west or west instead of east. You know means, you know pretty blue bird mornings and stuff like that. So I won't keep that back in my head as we kind of you know going to win the rest of this spring.
Speaker 3:That is a third cut on a mouth call.
Speaker 1:The first cut on a mouth, call lines of ghost cut. I'm running majority of any ghost cut out there. I found and I doubted in the one or two that I'm real. I can really run If I can key, key, yell, tree call and pearl one. That's when I'm going with. So yeah.
Speaker 2:So I grew up running a true double piggyback style pretty much call. That's what I learned how to call on and then on here. So the first couple of times I tried running a real amount of call, it was sounds like what other folks try to do when they throw in a brick of a true triple or something like that. You know just that thick. So it took me a while to figure out how to blow a real you know just a single, you know layer of reeds like that. But I'm a bat wing guy. I can do some stuff on a ghost cut. But I get all the other stuff in there and I'm like I don't even. I don't know how the signs works or the physiological air flow and stuff, but I know the ones would look like a bat wing. You know I can blow it pretty good.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I prefer a ghost cut myself. That's what I feel the most comfortable with.
Speaker 3:I'm a, I'm super cut dependent, like, if it's not a bat wing style cut, then it's gonna sound terrible. I just just how, I've always been envious of the guys that can blow all the different styles of cuts and make all you know. But yeah, if it's not a bat wing, I with the exception I can key, key really good on a ghost cut, which everybody can, so that's not saying anything. But yeah, it's gotta be a bat cutter I. It's not really a preference, it's just I have to or I'll sound like hot garbage.
Speaker 4:Yeah, one of the biggest keys for me when I was trying to figure out what cut worked for me is figuring out where your air channel blows down your tongue, and there's several, several good videos on YouTube to help you figure that out and you know, a lot of times like calls or advertised, they'll do this or they'll do that. But honestly, it's all about how the person blows air and where that channel of air goes down your tongue. Some people is left center, some people is right center, some people is right down the middle and your ghost cut is right down the middle, of course, because that's where the cut is. Your bat wings left or right center, and combo or reverse combo, you know, depending on which side that is, it may what may work better for you.
Speaker 4:For years I tried everything in the books and I may, I could get by with it, but I never was confident in it. And finally, a couple years ago, I started tinkering around blowing different types of ghost cuts and finally figured out some that worked best for me. But the cut thing on mouth calls is very, very much dependent on how you blow air down your tongue.
Speaker 3:The best thing that I would suggest is like go by cheap versions of every cut style out there, and it won't take you long to figure out like this is the one that I do best with, and then hone in on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, go from there and buy different brands of that cut.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty, I'm not like either sound kind of like a turkey or I sound like nothing. It don't even work, can't even crank it.
Speaker 1:And I mean I have thrown in ghost cuts that I sound like hot garbage on. I mean there, there is.
Speaker 2:And you just need a good call, chase.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I mean I'm just, I got one. I picked, somebody had me wanted to end up here for the day and I was like thanks, appreciate it, and I ran it and it was. It was rough and he ran one. He stretched six seconds forward and, you know, his mouth ran it and ran the crap out of it and everybody has a different structure face structure, mouth structure, what I'm gonna say. So if you can find one you do, okay on, yeah, start honing in on that and buying.
Speaker 2:I mean spend, not spend a hundred bucks you know if you're that worried about it if not if you start from zero, it's run a slave to you he gets in there and if he's within your, shout out.
Speaker 1:You know side of you and you got to help twice. Yeah, you can.
Speaker 2:I'll say yes twice if and I'll be the first to admit, I do it a lot if you're not good on a mouth called, don't try to be good on a mouth call in the turkey you know practice in your truck and then there's several.
Speaker 2:If you get on a box, call you just the box call. I mean you weren't there, it would sound like a tree in there. I mean there's. You're trying to be nothing until you're trying to be like a turkey, right? So silence definitely gonna mess it up. You ain't gonna booger nothing by not saying nothing. You can only booger it if you you know, if you're not confident, something try to do something that you can't do. That well, you know, until you're, you know, until you're confident with enough and I remember several times trying to, you know, use my mouth, call because that's what you know, the really good turkey hunters do they just?
Speaker 2:use a mouth call, I'm gonna sound like I'm gonna get a lot just from using, you know, a slate call or just from using a box call or whatever, and I've never really just bumped one by not doing anything at all. So just kind of blending with surroundings and you know, just do what you're good at and then worry about that when the time gets there. If you got a, you know, stop one with a mouth call, everybody can make a noise on it. You know, just blow it all or make a noise and nothing make them stop, but you can get them in the without one at all. If that's what it takes, you know, take your time and you know don't, don't rush it, yeah honestly that can get on another rabbit hole there.
Speaker 1:But as far as like the wing bone with the mouth call go stuff, like you know a lot of people sound pretty similar on a mouth call and that's where I throw the wrong wing bone in. But then you know I've struck up some turkeys with like the wing bone and he be coming, and then you know I want to throw a mouth call in and yell and then I sound like every other hunter he's ever heard, and so you know sometimes it can throw a kink in the curve if you swap calls. Actually, now, there's no knowing that beforehand till you find out the hard way. I'm that's, that's mm-hmm. You can always try it, but sometimes it's gonna work, sometimes it's not. All depends on the bird. So that's true. Is that cover that?
Speaker 2:for you, all right, all right, last call we gonna get into, all right using a pot call.
Speaker 1:Hey, you want to speak up? Just a little bit oh okay, which one do we run? I'm a glass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too. That's all I know. I know there's a bunch of different soundboard stuff that I don't really. I ain't gonna lie to you, I don't. It's got glass on and that's you know. Yeah, I've used a one for 20 years probably. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I would say I mean the the pot call style. That is straight-up preference. That's like now in my vest, I'll have a they call a pencilvania slate and and a, you know, like the crystal kind. I'll have one of each because there's probably a reason why, but there's like some low-pressure days. This one will carry further than the other one was, but I mean that's just preference. I mean I like the Pennsylvania slate style the best, but you know and I'm opposite of that.
Speaker 4:I may. I primarily use a pot call for striking purposes only. I rarely ever use it when I'm sitting by a tree. But I have a crystal over aluminum, aluminum soundboard on it and I have a lot of confidence in it.
Speaker 3:Collins, all preference man and his confidence to and we call all of them.
Speaker 2:Slate calls yeah but yeah, no, it's all come with what your confidence which gonna sound good at. And you know, silence never hurt. But and calling is so much time and it's not even funny, you know it's some, it's crazy how much better a turkey in here than a human and how there's a, there's a way to locate them with the calls, which is one thing, and there's way to talk like a turkey is nothing. And then if you're where a turkey would usually be on a day, given the circumstances, and you make a turkey sound a lot of times, that's all you got to do.
Speaker 2:Once he knows you're there, he knows you're there and you're just kind of talking to him into coming to a place he's already coming, kind of you know I've opened up indoors box for botching that hunt way more than I have, you know, really solidifying him coming in to check it out how to work good any more before we start raffling things once twice so I'm good deal one of the appreciate, tell y'all how much we appreciate y'all coming out.
Speaker 2:We are gonna be wrapping the audio version on this up. This will be coming out in a day or two. We're gonna have to do some some mixing and meshing of these two audio things. We weren't we the most tech-savvy folks. We're going to blend a couple of these little, these cards here and the audios and make a, make a podcast out of it.
Speaker 2:But I want to appreciate y'all supporting us. A that's a big, big, you know, a big thank you for that, just to showing up and then just for being turkey hunters and good stewards of the bird and I think that rabbit. I want to thank Rick's again. Just, I mean, seriously, this is a really cool opportunity, one that we've grown to look forward to every year, or you know, as a group can get up here and talk turkey and shaking hands with some familiar face for some familiar faces, and that's when you know. You know it ain't gonna be long now when we're sitting up here and I really appreciate it and I'm really appreciate these gentlemen next to me for coming on up here and hopping on. So we're good, appreciate, appreciate everything. Thanks for listening to spring lege podcast. We'll see you next week.