The Spring Legion Podcast

How Variety In Turkey Calls Changes The Hunt

• Spring Legion Turkey Hunting • Season 5

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We load for Nashville, share where to find us at NWTF, and dig into why call variety matters more than pride when birds get tight-lipped. From terrain-based call swaps to landmark setups, we explain the small shifts that turn silence into gobbles.

• core call kit and when to expand it
• terrain, range and weather shaping call choice
• comfort versus novelty in calling
• letting a buddy call to trigger a response
• hunting landmarks to make movement intuitive
• timing progressions and saving calls for roost work
• gear updates, vest fit notes and checkout flow
• feedback that guides future products

• booth location, crew roll call, freebies and show specials
• unannounced online deals during show days
• live Q&A plans across socials


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SPEAKER_01:

All right, y'all. Welcome back to the Spring Legion Podcast. My name is Hunter Ferrier. Joining you again with Chase Farrier. And uh by the time y'all are hearing this, we will be on the road headed for Nashville, Tennessee, for the 2026 NWTF Convention and Sports Show at the um, is it OpriLand? Is that how you say it? Um not Opry World. Yeah, Operyland. And um it's gonna be a good time, obviously, if you've never been, I encourage you to go. That um and it's uh it's the cause of a lot of um chaos at the same time. Chaos is a good thing in some certain scenarios and whatnot. And uh this is one of them because it's um that means we're about to go see a bunch of about 80,000 turkey owners. Yeah. And uh I don't I don't know what else you could ask for when it comes to um gatherings and whatnot, but um we encourage y'all, if you are in attendance to the NWTF show, to come swing by and say hello to us. We'll be there at the booth uh number 607, I think, is our booth. If you walk into the main entrance and you hang a right, walk all the way down to the corner, you're gonna find the big Mossy Oak corner. Uh right before you get to that, you're gonna find I believe it's nomad. And if you split the difference between Nomad and Mossy Oak, you'll find it's right there on that right corner as soon as you hang the first right. But we'll be there, we'll have the whole crew there. There's gonna be everybody, uh Seals, Logan, uh, buddy Garrett, I think gonna be there, uh, Easton, uh the the usual booth gang, Dylan and Cooper and Dylan and Cooper. Breck will be running around and stuff, or dad will be too. You'll probably see them toting boxes through the whole crowd of folks throughout the show. And um yeah, gonna be a good time. I encourage y'all to to uh to swing by, wear your spring legion stuff like we did last year. You're gonna get some free knickknacks and stuff like that for wearing Spring Legion to the convention, and uh you'll be getting some extra perks and um little things of that nature, whether it be gloves, hats, something, something kind of like that. We're gonna be doing a few more little I wouldn't call them discounts, just kind of freebies and stuff to folks who uh YouTube subscribers, things like that. We'll be kind of announcing through our socials and whatnot, and some of it might be might have to be in the booth to find out about it. Alright. So swing by, check them out, and um, if you can't make the show, I'm gonna give you a little bit of an insider knowledge tip here. All the stuff that's on the point of sale side is usually linked to the online store sale side. So if we are running a deal of some kind, a lot of times it's not announced, but you can go to our website and get the same deal if you if you aren't there. So um, yeah, y'all check out the uh check out the website those three days at the convention and you might uh you might slip into some some unknown or unannounced little discount deal or something. We might be running for a show special. Some of it, not all, not all of it, I'm saying. You know, some stuff we can do on the point of sale app that we can control and and separate from the online store, but we're gonna have new casual stuff, new hats, new shirts, stuff like that. We'll be releasing at the show. And then um and then the usual we'll have a little bit of everything there. Chase's got some turkey plaques made some fan mounts and stuff like that, and uh those leather uh call pouches. Yeah, them call pouches, stuff stuff that we hadn't had in a while. Yeah. We'll be there. I'll be there signed books and whatnot and talking to a bunch of turkey and and we're we're hoping to get a pile of podcasts too. So we've got a podcast room gonna invite a bunch of folks to hop on in. We have not reached out to any of them. Yeah. And um hopefully they see yeah. If they don't, well we'll record a few there. And and I I was talking to Chase even. We might do try this little kind of virtual live podcast maybe on Wednesday or Thursday, potentially, maybe on the the Instagram or YouTube or TikTok or whatever you can go live on. That um so we'll be able to answer some listener questions. Usually we have a double episode week this week. Right. And we ain't got the time to do that right now because we are in the thick of loading these trailers and stuff up right now. That's why there's not a video version of this one because our cameras and stuff are backed up and I ain't going through there to pick them back up. Uh-uh. So y'all tune into our socials at Spring Legion across the board, whether it be Facebook or Instagram, YouTube, all that stuff. And uh we might be having us a cool little little live gig, and whoever's around might be able to jump on in jump on jump on there and um and answer some questions as well. And um but yeah, I'm I'm I'm excited. Yeah, me too. What uh were you looking forward to probably most about the upcoming days?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, aside from you know, seeing the people that I only really see once a year. Yeah. That's the main thing. Um, running into all those folks and and catching up where we left off and um telling last year's stories and whatnot. I I'd have to say that what I'm looking forward to the most is the the street corn dog on Broadway. Yep. If you hadn't found Mr. Skeet Skeet Corn Dog, he's the man.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, he uh he made my day. He uh he comes in pretty clutch when you need it most if you ever do make it down to the downtown area of Nashville.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Which I say every year I ain't going there. I've said that since I was 25 years old. I uh this is my last time to ever go to Broadway.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

What happens every year, you know. Wind up wind up there some form or fashion. I don't know if we did it last year. Yeah, we did. Now that's where I ran into the guy. Yep. We're a fella. And there there's all kinds of stuff, the folks who who've never been, this might be your first time. Hopefully you're listening to this on the way up there. There's a lot of sub-events that goes on that that aren't necessarily related to the NWTF part, but you know, there's certain gatherings, get together, party type things that are usually free with some type of you know, donation to winds up being NWTF or some kind of grant fund or something like that. It's all it's a ton of like uh pots that it's building at the same time, and they're all for the turkey, but they might just be calling something different. And um, and pretty much everything going on there is is benefiting it. So it's it's it's really cool.

SPEAKER_00:

I agree. And um, yeah, I mean they always put on some kind of concerts and um dinners and auctions and stuff, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I mean, there's I mean, I don't even know. I I mean I every time I talk to somebody who's also going up there, they're like, You going to this thing on the Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday night? I'm like, brother, if you only knew what my inside of my head looked like right now, yeah, I'm good. I'm doing good to remember that it's February.

SPEAKER_00:

Right, me too. Um yeah, we normally hear about those like or pay attention to those after they happen.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm I'm I'm in an elevator headed up, and when I find out about most of them, yeah, I'm like, well, press the down button and we'll go back down and go to it, you know. Right. Um, because you can't not, of course, because then you then you feel like you missed out on everything and and whatnot, and and they're a lot of fun. But um, yep, so look forward to seeing y'all, and then those who are unable to attend, if you do want to grab something on the website, we uh we'll be still we'll have folks down here that are shipping out from the warehouse same day. Yeah. So, you know, there there's not gonna be that usual gap. And well, you can order on the website, but it's gonna be a week before you get it.

SPEAKER_00:

Right, which yeah, that's that is a big plus this year.

SPEAKER_01:

Unless unless the warehouse inventory runs out, we're gonna be shipping out same day stuff, and then there might be a few folks who have to wait an extra day or two until we get back with the rest of the stuff. If there's stuff. I hope I hope there is, but usually we run out of a few things, sizes and and whatnot. So um yeah, for that let's see. Oh, one last thing I do I did want to just verbally encourage y'all to go support the other brands who support us. We don't say that enough, I don't think. Um our sponsors for the podcast, Mossy Oak Vortex, Apex, North Mountain Gear, these are all folks we have worn, used very loyally in the past. Right. You know, none none of these are new to our GitHub. So these are folks that are are not just like, hey, we'll pay you if you if you say this. These are folks I reached out to personally, said, hey, we're gonna wear your stuff, we're gonna use your stuff, you know, if we're gonna do a partnership with anybody, it's gonna be with folks I'm very familiar with, folks I I trust, folks I have put through the ringer on anything and everything you think of, and and then and I'm okay saying that to folks, and that's that's who we pick. And that's how that works. So um, so yeah, I encourage y'all to go hang out with them as well as much as us. But for the topic today, and this is kind of we we've got this big jotted down sheet of of stuff that's submitted by our listeners, and this is um this is actually number one on the list, not like as far as importance or or most mentioned, but it would just happen to be the first one on there. I guess he mentioned it the earliest, but someone uh wrote in and said how important it was to have a variety of call sounds on you, you know, during the hunts. That um he said uh he he's got a diaphragm call that he loves, which is a mouth call for folks who are in the south like us and call them mouth calls. But um, but he wonders if you should try, you know, ones that uh he doesn't like as much, but try them sometimes to switch it up. And um I mean I think he he kind of hit the nail on the head a little bit in the last sentence that overall he ain't the judge of it though. You know, he might not like it, but the the turkey is what matters who likes it. And um there is no real right answer there. But uh uh advice-wise, I mean I can't tell you nothing concrete, but usually the stuff you like is the stuff that you're comfortable with. Right. And I always encourage that. Stick into the stuff you're comfortable with. If you're only good at a box call, and you only use a box call, I think, and this is theory, but I think you're gonna call in more turkeys than if you tried a mouth call you're not good at, or a slate call you're not good at, or a fly down that you don't really know how to how turkeys find when they fly down, or you know, you start throwing in a bunch of stuff you don't know a lot about or you're not comfortable with, or you think it's kinda outside of that little ring of know-how.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Then the judge starts telling you what you should do, but it's gonna result in a lot of unkilled turkeys. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Because he's gonna tell you what you shouldn't have done. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

A lot too. More so not. Right. Honestly. But I do think it is very valuable to have a a variety. Right, I agree. Um and we're we're both pretty uh I mean, I use between a a uh it's like a bot a pot call, I use a glass call m almost all the time. And um also use a mouth call and I also use a boss call. So I got three.

SPEAKER_00:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

But um but I have three versions of the three that I could I I'd say so now it's nine. Um you throw a wing in there, you throw a hand to scratch in there, you throw a crow call in there, and I who you know, you've got a a little good little 10 pack, 12 pack of of stuff you could throw at them. Um, but you're pretty loyal to your few as well, wouldn't you say?

SPEAKER_00:

Right, right. I um yeah, I run the mouth call 95% of the time. Um I do carry a a small glass call, uh pot call um with me at all times. And um it it's just uh more it's different pitches more is what I go into um thinking wise. Um I also carry the the wing bone or a trumpet of some form, kind of depending on the day. Um just which one I grab off the mirror. I got a cane call, I got a uh I think it's uh some form of plastic resin trumpet call that gets real loud and then uh the wing bone, but 95% of the time it's the wing bone. And um I normally will throw a crow call in um a hoop with my mouth. I hadn't carried a wing much last couple years, but I'm looking forward to carrying one again this year because there's been a few scenarios and I'm like, dang, you know, if I had that dang wing. That was one of the things I missed the most about not have not wearing a vest was not having my wing and not having a good place for my slate call.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that's half the reason I wear one, is so I have something to hold water of some kind and a wing. Because it's everything else can fit in the pocket. And that's um, and even like when I talk to folks about our vest and stuff, which is a very minimalist vest, is made that way. And folks get that, and they're still like, yeah, but I do wish they had one or two more pockets without you know having to buy the attachments to add on and stuff and whatnot. My first thought is like, well, that combined attachment is$25. We're about$100 less than the other ones who have it included, so you know, do the math there. But but I get it, and then and I grew up, and everyone I know, turkey houses stuff, their gloves and mask and stuff go in their pants and their mouth call, you know, pouch pouch goes in their shirt pocket. And you know, there's there's places that aren't in the vest that everything usually stays all year. Um but that wing ain't fitting in a cargo pocket. Right. You you about gotta have a back pocket there.

SPEAKER_00:

I agree. And um, yeah, that was one thing I did miss the most. Um so I'm I'm I've I've already got it in the vest ready to roll. I've I found it the other day, my old one that I had for shoot, I probably had that one wing for 10 years. And if you ain't ever cut off a wing, it ain't the whole wing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, I saw that somewhere the other day. Have you ever seen someone with a with a I mean a showing of a turkey wing in there?

SPEAKER_00:

Mayfield had one in Dave Owen's video the other day. The full video, the full wing from the from the shoulder socket on. Shoot. Well, I can't argue that. You cannot do it. Um I saw that the other day. I was like, huh, I never thought of that. But the way I've always cut them is at the elbow. I guess you'd call it the the secondary bend. You want the the fingertips of the bird, I guess you'd say.

SPEAKER_01:

That's what I use. And I usually I'll take it and I'll I'll spread it out and I'll put borax on it and stuff, and I'll go in there three times before it's short enough hard and and trying to spread it out, you know, and um and keep it compact and whatnot. But heck, maybe that's that's why I ain't killing as much. He's gonna have to have to wean.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe. I don't know. But um that was the first time I'd seen that. And uh that was uh three or four days ago when I watched the video. Really?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that that was that's a video I saw, you know, I knew about, but that's the one I'm like, I don't want to watch that with much kids under me and stuff, and you know, kind of want to have have the space to to to watch that from beginning to end, you know, in one good setting and uninterrupted and stuff. That's gonna that's gonna be awesome.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's a good video or two um that he's posted out there.

SPEAKER_01:

Per usual. Who is it? Is it Dave and Blake and Mr. Mayfield and KB? Yeah. That's like half the Degum, Mount Rushmore, Dre Hunt all in one get up, you know, right there. All of them. Um which would be really cool to see. So I'm looking forward to seeing that. And then um but but going to the variety of of calls and stuff, I I think you know, all you can be is one hand at a time. You I mean you there's ways you can alkylate multiple and stuff, but you know, typically if you're on the fence about even carrying another call, you know, we're we're worried about one.

SPEAKER_00:

We're worried about being one right now. And something you do a little more than me is swap out at the truck. Yes. Depending on weather and and what you know conditions, you're exactly right. Um Hunter's got a little one of our duffel bags that we call his bag or tricks, you know. And um when you see that sucker hit the pavement, uh the gravel, you know we're we've already been through the ring. Yeah. And we always joke about it and whatnot.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, if I'm going through that, I'm I'm looking for something I got back in 2010 that I'm like, you know what? I might need this down the road, this weird crystal call of some kind. And um, usually that's what's in there in about six half empty water bottles and six half empty things of DEET and some mosquito net face mask things. If I get stranded, I can at least put that on and fall asleep on the ground. Like there's it's I can live out of that bag for about a week. And um some granola bars I could probably sell on eBay for you know relics by now. Um some fossilized uh chewy granola bars. But um but yeah, all you can be is one hen at a time. And and I think uh Mr. Toxie told us, and it was actually on the Game Keeper podcast that we were on, was um, you know, even if you are a real hen, he's still got to pick you. He don't pick every hen that he that is real. Right. You can sound exactly like a real hen, and your chances still ain't 100%. We talk about that all the time. So just because he doesn't pick you don't mean you're bad at calling, don't mean you should change it up, is what I'm saying. Right. You could still be very good at it. He may just be pre- you know, occupied otherwise. Yeah, and and for whatever reason, some work, some don't when it comes to calls. And you've got to be able to go through that process of elimination, think kind of like a quarterback reading his progressions, so to speak, is we hope this works, but then you got a a series of things you go through if it don't, and you don't all through them, you know, within the first second, you kind of work your way through them and whatnot. And and there's and and a lot of times what Chase is referring to is when I'm going through that bag and stuff and I'm swapping out, we've changed terrains more than anything. If if I'm not pulling, you know, if it ain't if it's midday and I'm doing that, yeah. But if I if we just get to a spot and all of a sudden I take everything in my vest out and put all new in, that's because we're in a different spot than I I was hunting in some mosquito-ridden swampy hardwoods or something, real muggy area and stuff. One day now we're in some real crisp, wide open area. Right. You know, if I'm gonna use a real slate call, like uh like a slate surface or whatever, not a glass, I'm not gonna take that out to a wide open area and try to cut through and and hit some stuff way off with and stuff. That's for when I'm I got a good hanker and we're gonna be in tight and I'm gonna do some tree yelps and stuff on it. And that's you know, real whiny stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

And that sounds way more realistic than trying to do it on a glass call. I I can do it on a glass call, but it it would sound better if it was slate if I do happen to get in that scenario. I kind of wish I had it. But if um but yeah, if I'm going out and I'm gonna try to just weigh on some stuff, that's when I I really hit the glass call and I got two different box calls. One of them's one of them don't even really sound like a dirty. Right, it's just real high pitched and squeaky. From a long way it does, but from up close it don't. I can't get soft on it and stuff like that. But if I'm if I'm using it, I'm probably trying to grab one from a long way anyway. So that's kind of why I use that most times, and I don't use it a ton of times when I know I'm gonna be up among amongst them because it it is loud and it's hard. It sounds even weirder when it gets soft. But um but yeah, and then and then kind of if if it's not working, say if I'm using my bread and butter, which is my my glass call, and I use mouth call, I got two or three different guys in there, and not great on any of them. I usually try to if I'm using it, I it's usually because I can't get to my slate and ones in tight. Right. Um kind of going back to that, you just gotta be okay with admitting what you're good at and what you're not so good at, and and stop trying to force things that that you ain't practiced enough or hadn't, you know, perfected the craft well enough as the others. And and if it's not working, you gotta try something different, I would think. If you're trying to get a turkey to gobble, that's the thing, you know. If it's not bringing him in, that's kind of one thing, but if he ain't gobbling at you at all, it's gonna be hard hunting without him gobbling at you. You gotta find a way to make him gobble some. Yeah. Um to let you know if he's still there. You it when you're playing kind of the little chess match with him, it's kind of he's gotta make moves, and him not making moves is him winning. Right, 100%. That's all that is.

SPEAKER_00:

Um I like the frequency of the calls matters to me the most when I'm changing between the two.

SPEAKER_01:

I think that has a lot to do with how you get a gobble out of one and not the other.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, the uh let me say this. Like in high school, you know, I turkey hunted and everything, and I had buddies at high school that turkey hunted and they'd be getting their butt whooped by a turkey or something. And they you know, I'm not saying they'd call in me, but they'd be like, Hey, if you want to give this jerker this rough joker a try, have at it, you know. Come let's go tomorrow. And I'd take that little, that smaller glass call that's you know, custom, not necessarily I guess a custom call, I guess you'd call it. Um it's unusual. Small. Yeah, it's like a three and a half versus and you know, most or four, I think. This is a three and a half. Um but it's got a very different sound. And it it sounds pretty good, I'm not gonna lie. Um, but it just sounds different than a generic over-the-counter call. And I think that was the changing factor with him, and it wasn't necessarily the the call, it was a different call than what he had been spooked off of three or four times by my buddy, you know. So, like, say my buddy, you know, was running a you know, Walmart call that sounded the same every day, and he went in there every day, you know, with that same call. Well, all of a sudden, hey, there's a new call in town, and I think just me being a different Sounding person. They were could be that they thought a lot less of that. It wasn't that I was a better turkey hunter than him. You know, it was just I had a very different sounding call than than anything that turkey had ever heard. And I was the first that was the first time I'd ever been on that property, you know, and he ain't never heard that call. Yeah. And then I think that's a lot to do with that.

SPEAKER_01:

And in a micro set, that's kind of a you know, a big, a big picture there. But in even in a micro picture, it's a new call of your own, maybe. Just something something new. And I don't know if they get used to it or if they I mean there's a million ways you can skin this, and you know, I can turn into a million and one in my brain of just like, is he is he content with the hen? So you you might have been overcalling with one. So that hen has already submitted herself to being interested. And I'm he, you know, sounding like if uh if that cobbler don't move, she's probably gonna walk to him. She seems that interested. She's answered everything, she's encouraged him, you know, the whole time. Hey, you got me. Don't worry about it. You know, you do your thing, I'm gonna walk to you eventually, don't worry. And this other one comes and and and only get calls once or twice, and you know, it might get him a little more fired up in a different manner. Um, but a lot of times I think it does come down to that, probably that frequency and stuff. And I don't know if it's necessarily because you know he hadn't heard it before or anything. I think it's just it's something new, literally. And there's and and I I can't I don't have the the right answer to that, but that's that's one thing I even jotted on my notes was if you are hunting with someone else, let them call. Eve even if you think you're better at calling to them. Right. Um, if they're new, they could be a daggum kid. You know, literally just a little bit something new can spark a big fire, you know. I mean, that's all that's all you're trying to do is get him fired up in a different way. And and I remember, and I've talked about it before, uh, the the first hunt Gary and I went on together however many years ago or whatever, and Gary ain't been hunting but once or twice before then. Right. But um, and we've been on him all day and um kind of in and out, in and out of of the game with him and stuff, and and Gary breaks out this you know cheap box call or whatever and cranks on him like that's something pretty dang good, you know? And he got one to gobble. I'm like, okay, we're in it. And we'll get over there and I'll start calling again and you know, radio silence again. I'm like, Gary, hit that thing again, you know? And he did and gobbled again. You know, he would do he would only gobble Gary's. Yeah. Um same thing um several years ago, Seals and I were hunting with Logan and uh and Logan's filming for his um Monte Ghost show. And um first day we met Logan, actually, pretty much, I think. And and we're we're we're kind of trailing these guys, which I don't like doing. You know, I I always feel lost. I like we we've lost it. We're trying real hard. And um but if you if you're consistent with it, you know, anything can happen. So I ain't definitely just walking away necessarily. We had no other extra extra plans to to fall back on necessarily. So we were there for that day and and we were doing that, and he breaks out to talk to Timor Gabriel, and I'm like, Dad gum, that's the first time I'd ever heard one of those. I'm like, that's that's really nice, you know. I didn't I didn't expect that, and so to speak, from a call you can just go like to Walmart and buy. Right. You know what I'm saying? But it sounded really good. And then and then also Logan starts using his mouth call. I'm like, well, you didn't tell me you were like really good at this the whole time. I would have I would have loved for you to have just chimed on in a little, you know, a little bit earlier. Um But we wind up, you know, wind up peeling one off of them and then comes back and still shoots him. And and um and I think a lot of it had to do with just swapping it up. I'd done bowling the reeds out of mine and I mean they they'd hurt everything I got by that time. It was one o'clock or it was high noon, I think, when he finally turned around and um kind of came back, you know, the other way and stuff. But but hunt with you, you know, you the wing bone out there's several times we'll we'll be hunting something, and and this has happened before. We've talked about it, I know, but I hunted one for a good majority of a day, and and our our plan was my plan was not not ruin it and get out of there and come back with Chase's wing bone the next day, you know, and it worked. And and I told him, I said, I'm gonna tell you exact exactly when and where. Yeah, you just listen to me and don't do don't do it extra because that's our that's our only chance, I I think, is to hit him with something he ain't never heard, get a gobble out of him, get down in there on him tight, and maybe hit it one more time after about an hour sitting there and see what happens. And um and be as realistic as possible and and uninterested as possible. And that's exactly what it sounded like, and he peeked over his reach and shot him and it took three hours, but that's the I don't think that if we would have done anything else, it would have Duplication with higher hopes, I I try not to do. You know, and there's a consistency aspect to it as far as as staying with him and and and trusting that the process that a turkey's gotta go through to get to you. But also if you just sitting there six note yelping, six note yelping, six note yelping, he's gonna gobble at all of 'em. But you you gotta do something different. And um and and and even even um this past year. Or or yeah, I mean this past year, it was uh hunting in Pennsylvania. Uh hunting with a guy named Cody, and I don't know if our video on that is aired yet. It might be this week, I thought with Easton. I think the one of Easton and I in West Virginia is gonna be the one releasing this week, and it's a good one. I encourage y'all to go watch that on the YouTube. It's uh it's a pretty pretty cool one. He lost all the footage of his. So it's just a GoPro. I think I had it on yep. He has lost all the footage of his side of it. He had a you know a nice camera and it was cool. But um, which sucks because that and and y'all know GoPro. Like doesn't have the best audio, not great visual, but still the loudest turkey I've ever heard. I think we talked about on the first episode of this season. This was the loudest golfing turkey I've ever heard in my life. Yeah. And a GoPro even kind of proves that. But um, but y'all can imagine that times 11 at least whenever uh whenever that hunt does air. But um, but if if it's not, if it's one from Pennsylvania, um went up there hunting with the buddy Cody and stuff, but he could he could cluck and cut on a mouth call better than a real turkey. I've never I mean it it kind of blew my mind. I'm like, hold on now. How do you make that sound underneath it and stuff, you know? Like he was he was like, I don't know what you do this. Like, do that again, man. You know, yelping, sounding pretty normal, but I'm like, when you do the the cutting and the clucking and stuff, I'm like, teach me, yeah, teach me how to do that, because I ain't never heard a a human do that. Um and then and then you know about cuz is tube call, you hear stories about that all the time and and stuff like that. A lot of folks use that. And there's a lot of different things you can you can keep in there, and the one the thing I keep with me, and I don't and this is one that kind of stays in that bag of tricks, so to speak, and comes out more than anything else, would be the uh scratch box little call I got. And this it's it's coming pretty clutch on some wise gobblers. It's it's definitely different. Um I'm not just gonna go into a private land area for the first time and start with that one. But if I go into a place that I know is pressured and then that I've hunted before and stuff, and I'll I'll stick to one that I know they haven't heard, probably, unless somebody has one of these too, and use it. And it it's pretty cool little contraption you gotta practice on and it is different. It's just not as loud as like a it's like a you know a trumpet or a um wing bone or a tube call or anything like that. It's it's kind of uh real soft, it's wooden, you know. Um it's a cool little call. Sound wild.

SPEAKER_00:

Sounds good, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Sounds like a real turkey, but you know, you gotta you gotta be on in them to to use it for the work.

SPEAKER_00:

You can't reach a reach out of it, yeah. Um yeah, and I I where you were telling those stories, I was kind of thinking back at that turkey I killed. What was that, Nebraska or something? Yes, that's a good example. Example, because you had hunted that turkey, what, a couple days before and bumped him or something?

SPEAKER_01:

He had spit I bumped him like three times in one day. Okay, yeah. He was on his little knoll, his little he had a spot, and this is on me. How I mean he's kind of like fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me three times, throw your hat in the dirt, like I knew you would be here. I I just forget about you because I was never hunting him. I was always hunting one on the other side of him or to the left or the right of him, and I always kept forgetting about this one that would gobble every now and then, right? But he wouldn't get off that knoll. I wonder why. Because every time I'd bump walked right on top of him because it was very steep to get on top of this flat, and it was I mean it was bald on the top, but it was uh cedars everywhere else. So you had to kind of like you know, bust your way up through there like an elk or something, and you pop out and he'd just be sitting there looking at you like I forgot about you. You know, like if I would just come up here with my gun up, I you know, and expect you, I'd be home by now. Right. But every time he's just sitting there, and I never stopped to listen for drumming or nothing, having three times in a row. It was in one of those, like not a slump, but uh I'm getting rushed. I'm getting you know kind of pissed off that I'd missed one. Or I did miss one. Um it wasn't on the same piece, but it wasn't far away. Yeah. And um, so I'd missed one, and then the morning before that I got trapped inside my truck because the beekeepers came to empty the honey stuff that I was parked by, and there was one strutting goblin I could see through the window, and I could not get out because I was surrounded by bees. I was like, How bad do you want it? And I was like, Not that bad. Yeah. You know, like I I got all week. I I ain't gonna sit here because the last thing I need to do is get out and go screaming around like you know, getting chased by bees. I don't know if you've ever seen Tommy boy. Yeah, I was thinking that's that's the first thing in my head is when they go get attacked by imaginary bees and stuff. That's how I'd probably be acting. Yeah. Um and that turkey seed and and and fly off and then have to hunt that turkey the rest of the week. So I just let him ride on the sunset and wound up killing him the next day, I think. But but I was hopping back and forth between these two places and and yeah, I I I that turkey knew everything about me incidentally. You know, I I was trying to get to these other turkeys and he I nearby stepped on him twice and then um but then came back and and you were with me. And um and what we we sat there and and this was kind of the last ditch effort, wasn't it? We might have told the story if it would have been a while if we have.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it was the last day we were gonna be up there. Um later in the day, you know, four o'clock or so probably we had we had run out of options. We were like, well, we're just gonna go in here where you were like, I don't want to hunt this turkey because he's he's screwed up right now. But yeah, it was kind of our only option. But I know a few back there. Right, you knew there was a few back there, but you also remembered you remembered that one for sure. Yeah, because of the bad side of him. Um I wasn't sure if I'd told you yet. I think you had you had mentioned a little bit of it, but didn't tell me the full story till later. But I remember you had you called what did we we busted a bunch of cows out of there or something. That was a good and you like we had slipped and slipped and slipped for hours and finally made it to where we wanted to get, which was one of those that was that dust and bowl you had found landmark situations, and we sat on that tree literally at the landmark of a dust and bowl where a turkey would probably be.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, yeah, and and I'm glad you said that. Don't lose your train of thought, but I don't want those in there was kind of the landmarks. We ain't talking about that in a long time. I think turkeys have landmarks in their head, whether it be a big 200-year-old oak tree or a creek or a ditch or a something, like this dust and bowl area. Um, and I think that's what that was, is is kind of if you if you call around it, like say within 80 yards of it, maybe, um, 100 yards away, you're not at that place. But if you go there, a place that turkeys would frequent kind of deal, you know, it's kind of like a an intersection. Right. Um you know, if you're reading off directions or whatever, you're at the corner of this street or something like that. Or think of where they always put the bars, is always at a very it's a hub of some kind. Right. There's a reason. You don't really care why, but you know, there's a reason why the if you were to pull up all the Chick-fil-A's or something, it's gonna look like you overlay the maps of interstates and it's gonna be around there. Same, you know, the same loves truck stops and stuff. There's a reason they're where they are, and that's because that's the you know the the way of travel. You know, it makes it easy on everybody. And um, I I think if you get to an area like that and call, you're more likely to get a response than you are if you're just in the middle of nothing, nowhere, off in some back road kind of deal. Mm-hmm. You might be amongst them when you call and also need right there, but I think if you call right there, it makes a lot of sense to them and they know where to go and you ain't got to call but once kind of deal, they know that you're probably gonna be there. But right.

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Right.

SPEAKER_00:

Which I think you had called with your your pot call. Yeah. And that and we didn't get a response.

SPEAKER_01:

We were like sitting down calling.

SPEAKER_00:

Like we weren't Yeah, we weren't walking.

SPEAKER_01:

We we sat down at that spot and said, We'll we'll call here.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. And we waited a little while, 20 minutes probably. I feel like and then we you called and we didn't get nothing. And I feel like I briefly whatever you had told me, you know, I was like, maybe I should try off my mouth call. You know, I said something different, like, let's try something different, a different caller you never heard. Let's let me call one time, you know. Yeah, I don't know if it was disgust or I just thought that. No, you you we did. And sure enough, I yelped and pow, I mean, he wasn't he wasn't, and but you knew like it.

SPEAKER_01:

About 120 yards, right about 11 o'clock.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, the funny thing is in the video, I think that video's up, but um, I had my camera facing back at us, and you're just like spinning your dip out, moving your sunglasses, texting dad, you know, back and stuff, and like you can tell in Hunter's face, he's like, I know what that turkey's gonna do, and it ain't gonna become here. And then showing up.

SPEAKER_01:

That's when I was like, I forgot to tell Chase about that one though. About the kiddy. He's like, Oh, here he comes.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm like, he's about to have a hard time. Yeah, and sure enough, I yelled one more time and he had crossed the creek, the dry creek bed, came off the node. Then I'm fumbling everything because you're actually correct, and he actually did it. Yeah. And you know, it may have just been that shift. I mean, it may have been the landmark situation, it may have been a shift in a call, but the fact I mean the fact that he made he didn't call gobble at your um your call, he probably heard you with it the couple days before. And that may have been the difference in the deciding factor. It it's hard to argue against it, you know. I don't know, but it honestly spooking those cows may have been the difference in that. He may have had a hen and those cows scared them all everywhere, and all of a sudden the first one that calls is probably the hen he lost when the cows spooked him. You never know. I'm not saying that's a hundred percent, but you know, that in my mind that made a little different a little sense and variety of a call, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

I wouldn't call it dumb for thinking that, that's for sure. You know, I I definitely think that's a a very likely reason. You know, it was something different and and and uh w why I don't I'm I can't I definitely can't answer. You know, if it was he knew he knew that call versus this call and he he believed that'd been a real one. Had I been just wailing on it and then you call, I don't know if it'll work. That's how we would find that out, but I don't want to go back and try to do that. Um because it worked. I don't like changing stuff that does work, regardless of how intended it it wound up being. But um but that's another thing is is is sometimes I kind of cuss myself for not calling at all. I'm I'm I'm I'm I wind up at the truck and I just noticed that I've been timid on calling, you know, like turkeys don't call throughout the morning.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm like, well, you know, I was just hitting a crow call or something because I did I was so scared of announcing my presence to something. And and I do think there is a a process like we mentioned at the beginning of the episode that you gotta go through and and I think of it like kind of like a you know a progression standpoint and mixed with poker. You don't wanna you don't wanna show your whole hand before 9 a.m. probably. Um when it ain't working, I don't mean it didn't work the first two times, I mean that morning it didn't work, come back with something else, you know, mid-morning maybe. Um and sometimes I don't I think they don't hear you. And you're you're being too realistic, but there ain't a turkey there to hear it. Right. You gotta wail on something to get them to gobble, then go get closer, then go back to the stuff, and then and then I'm I'm also pretty good. If it's working, don't stop it. You know, don't go to the next one. All right, save that for if this one stops, you know, and then go to your next idea or or whatever. Um and I will intentionally, if I go in there at 3 p.m. and I'm trying to kind of like semi-scout, semi-hunt, potentially maybe just roost one if it gets late enough, about an hour or two, might start shifting into that and and staying back and not trying to be too aggressive on nothing and getting close or anything like that. Um more so picking a spot that I can get out of easy more than get amongst them easy. Um so I can just hear them fly up or maybe catch one, you know, walking across a field or something that I'll have a better idea of where to get the next morning. I'll intentionally not use a call I might use the next morning. Like I'll go in there with just a box call and and and and only use it kind of deal. And if it works, it works. A lot of times that happens. Yeah. I mean I had Ohio last year worked real worked fine. Um I I was doing a few yups here and there. Um no, I'm sorry. This is a different spot. Um the one in Ohio I just had a mouth call, I think. And and just happened to hear one drum. And good spot, right place, right time, hear one drum, hit the deck and and call to him, and it took an hour, but finally, you know, well after about ten minutes that you know he drummed again, or ten seconds he drummed again. I'm like, well, there's a turkey here. It's just a matter of figuring out how I'm gonna go about this, but we've already talked about that, Hunt in a uh in a prior episode. But um, but yeah, I'll I'll I'll save them. I don't know. I can't tell you that's that works or not, but but uh I mean also I mean if you're really good at something, it's kind of catch 22. Do you want to be kind of good at five things or really, really, really good at one thing? Right. You know, I I know a lot of turkey killing SOBs that just use one mouth call, and that's because they sound like a real turkey with that one mouth call. And if I if I sounded like that, I would not change nothing. I would not even bring nothing but that one mouth call. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00:

Um But I mean, they uh I'm sure they also have days that they go, hmm. It ain't working today. It ain't it, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

And I can't I can't help you there, but at the same time, the only thing I know, and and a lot of times your guess is as good as mine. Yeah. Y'all think because we do talk about trade count a lot, don't mean we we we we know what we're doing every single time. Right. A lot of times I'm I'm asking somebody else, like, what do you think? Mm-hmm. Um this is Wendy's. Yeah. You know, and I'm like, I I need I need some either some reassurance or give me a I'm gonna flip this quarter, you're gonna tell me where I'm gonna go this afternoon. I don't care how expens uh how experienced you are.

SPEAKER_00:

I just need somebody to place the blame when it don't work because I'm about out of it. I was about to say you need uh it's you sometimes just need somebody else to blame it on. Yep.

SPEAKER_01:

Um but nonetheless, anyway, we're gonna have I I know this is gonna have to be a short episode because we do have a whole lot to get ready and stuff and pack and get on up there and whatnot, and then it'll be even more chaos setting this joker up. So we uh Chase has put a lot of work into getting it looking good, our dad has as well, and and then a lot of folks will be up there lending a hand to get it up, so y'all um y'all can uh thank all of them for the uh the appearance. Unless it looks really bad, then y'all can blame that on me because you know.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, getting the blueprint out of your head was the hardest part.

SPEAKER_01:

It's hard to it's hard to get those out of my head. Because a lot of times, a lot like turkey hunting, I I'm not sure quite yet, but I think I got a big picture, but I don't have all the little pictures figured out m most times on how to get there. I just know we're gonna get there.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Um pretty much everything changed about twice in the last five days.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, because it's step B is dependent on step A's success, and it's the success of step A is a little different. B might be a little different, and then G sure enough different because we're down a whole new road at this point.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we own about M right now. Yeah. Um We're gonna see how it looks. Hopefully it'll go together as smooth as we hope. And um, I'm sure it will. We can properly assemble it.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah. And and we've geared it this year. If you are up there, it's gonna be a little bit more of a seamless checkout. So we're gonna actually have like shelves underneath all the stuff hanging up where you can just grab it. You can check it out on a shelf, you know, feel it, try it on, whatnot, and stuff, but we're not even gonna try to hang everything up so you can be able to grab something that's in the you know, the plastic wrapper like you get from the warehouse and it's got barcodes on it. You just you just grab your size and walk up to the counter and they just scan it. Boom. You're done.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, the hang I mean, if you bring us one that's hanging up, we ain't gonna get mad about it by any means. But it's kind of designed so that you can get the the the wrap stuff out from under what's hanging, but still have the hanging option to feel it, try it on, do what you need to with all that stuff. Just so we don't have to sift through so many. Right. Um, it just would make our life a thousand times easier. Because last year was uh rough with the pile of hangers we had.

SPEAKER_01:

We couldn't hang them up faster than folks were taking them off, and it was, you know, we had three people trying to just just to hang them back up and like mm-hmm they wound up hand handing them to the person who's waiting in line to grab one off the hanger, and you're like, Okay, right. We're outnumbered here, boys, you know. And um so it it'll be it'll be fun. And if you're if you're on the fence about anything, come by feel it, check it out and stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

And and ask us questions. Right. Don't yeah. I mean you can you can stop us anywhere.

SPEAKER_01:

if we're walking to the to the restroom you know and ask us a question i'm I don't I'm open to anything and um you know what's what what what our thoughts are on it our plan of design behind it anything like that I love talking about that kind of stuff and especially the vest you know this is your chance to come try it on you know it's it's it's a vest is kind of a little more geared towards thinner people I think I hadn't done a good job of of putting that out there as much because all the other the most one size fits most stuff is is usually it's hard to make it it's hard to undo it. You know you can always expand it out but then for years you know you couldn't make it smaller you couldn't make it tighter you couldn't make it right higher you know it had to be to an extent bulkier or something of that nature um so I was just you know it ours it kind of goes out instead of reels all the way back in.

SPEAKER_00:

But you can make it real small if you want to but you know right this is the first vest I've had that actually fit me tight.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah some folks go like this is this is the golden ticket and some folks like this feels really weird. I'm like first question what vest have you usually ran? Because it's gonna feel weird compared to some and some you know it's gonna feel exactly like someone hoped one would right you know be developed and stuff and and um and of course we're gonna try we're we're gonna continue the bundle deals and stuff we should you know it's we're we're I don't I don't know of many that are going to be priced lower than ours on on pretty much everything. We try to you know make sure we we keep it uh everything makes sense nothing nothing make you scratch your head too much about where did where is this money coming from kind of deal. Um what what value is is placed here and stuff like that. And some stuff that there is and and it might be unknown um and I'm not great at putting that out there where where it comes from and stuff. So um we'll be there to answer all the live questions and explain stuff and take feedback.

SPEAKER_00:

So yeah we want feedback always you don't you don't you stop learning and growing when you stop listening.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep. So we'll we'll be listening to y'all there and that might be uh some of the stuff that goes into projects down the road. And a lot of folks have have mentioned I wish it could do this and stuff and I'm like yeah I'm ahead of you I ain't said that yet you know um there's there's stuff that are in the mix for 2027 already so um y'all might be able to learn a little bit about those if y'all do come by and um I don't think you'll be able to see any of them but you'll be able to hear about them if you if you bring up one of those types of questions. So anyway we'll see you there booth 607 uh come hang out with the Sprint Legion crew and and all who are uh involved and wear your stuff yep thanks again for listening to the Sprint Legion podcast

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