Spatial Attraction
SPATIAL ATTRACTION is a podcast about the spaces we work in, and the forces that shape how we think, interact, and perform.
Hosted by Kursty Groves (author, speaker, and senior advisor on work, experience and human performance), the show explores why some environments energise people and make good work easier… while others leave us scattered, tense, or stuck. Each episode follows one clear theme - from focus and flow to trust, belonging, creativity, and momentum - and looks at what’s really driving behaviour beneath the surface.
You’ll hear expert interviews, real-world stories, and research-informed insights across five dimensions of space: physical, social, digital, cognitive (headspace), and temporal. Expect practical language, sharp observations, and simple shifts you can make - whether you’re leading a team, shaping experience, or redesigning the conditions for better work.
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Spatial Attraction
Are Physical Offices Dead? With Tracy Hawkins, Twitter
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Tracy Hawkins, Vice President of Real Estate & Workplace and Remote Experience at Twitter, joins Kursty to discuss whether offices are dead.
Tune in to learn:
- If you should reduce your office space post-pandemic;
- How you can create a workplace culture even if you only work remotely;
- How to keep people connected even when everyone is working remotely.
Timestamps
[00:19] Episode overview and who is Tracy Hawkins?
[03:00] What does it mean to be in charge of remote work experience?
[05:41] How did Twitter support employees to adapt their homes to remote work?
[09:38] What are the main lessons from dealing with the challenges of the pandemic at Twitter?
[12:26] Is the office dead?
[16:00] Are the COVID changes in the workplace temporary?
[19:14] Useful tools for remote work.
[21:08] How do you build a workplace experience if you are only working remotely?
[23:35] Will Twitter be reducing its office space?
[27:35] Twitter’s office re-entry plan.
3 Key Highlights
- Asynchronous work will likely be part of the future of work. People in the future will be able to work on their own schedules, at times that are convenient to them.
- The office is a tool. Therefore, it wouldn’t make sense to kill it or declare it dead. Rather, the way we use the tool (that is the office) will merely shift.
- Useful tools for remote work include Google Docs and Salesforce. They can also be great for managing health check ins.
Links
Connect with Tracy Hawkins: LinkedIn | Twitter | Real Estate and the Workplace Twitter
Connect with Kursty Groves: LinkedIn | Twitter
Support the show
Spatial Attraction is written, produced, and hosted by Kursty Groves.
Original music and sound production by Lee Golledge.
For episodes and updates, visit https://kurstygroves.com/podcast/ - and follow Spatial Attraction on LinkedIn and Instagram.
To suggest a theme or guest, email jen@spatial-attraction-podcast.com.