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Mysteries Revealed - ETMH - Section 10 - I’m Not A Oneness

April 12, 2024 Jason DeMars
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Apr 12, 2024
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Could the key to unlocking the mysteries of the divine lie within the complex interplay between Jesus Christ and God the Father? Prepare to be captivated as we, alongside the insights of Brother Branham, navigate the profound union of the human and the divine in Christ's existence. In a spiritual exploration that spans from the echoing voice at Jesus’ baptism to His ultimate act of love on the cross, we delve into the heart of Christian doctrine. We unpack the notion of God speaking through Jesus, the humility with which He credits His works to the Father, and the dynamic of their shared essence that is central to understanding Christ's purpose.

As we reflect on Jesus' role as the 'God-man', we deconstruct the inseparable bond between the Son and the Holy Spirit, drawing parallels to our own connection with the divine. The anointing of Jesus by the Holy Spirit reveals a transformative moment that extends beyond the banks of the Jordan, touching the core of human redemption. This episode is not just a theological discussion, but an invitation to experience the depth of Jesus' humanity and the magnificence of His sacrifice—a journey through scripture and personal revelation that brings us face to face with the eternal 'Emmanuel', God with us. Join us as we seek understanding in the sacred dance of the Trinity and the sacrifice that forever changed the course of history.

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Could the key to unlocking the mysteries of the divine lie within the complex interplay between Jesus Christ and God the Father? Prepare to be captivated as we, alongside the insights of Brother Branham, navigate the profound union of the human and the divine in Christ's existence. In a spiritual exploration that spans from the echoing voice at Jesus’ baptism to His ultimate act of love on the cross, we delve into the heart of Christian doctrine. We unpack the notion of God speaking through Jesus, the humility with which He credits His works to the Father, and the dynamic of their shared essence that is central to understanding Christ's purpose.

As we reflect on Jesus' role as the 'God-man', we deconstruct the inseparable bond between the Son and the Holy Spirit, drawing parallels to our own connection with the divine. The anointing of Jesus by the Holy Spirit reveals a transformative moment that extends beyond the banks of the Jordan, touching the core of human redemption. This episode is not just a theological discussion, but an invitation to experience the depth of Jesus' humanity and the magnificence of His sacrifice—a journey through scripture and personal revelation that brings us face to face with the eternal 'Emmanuel', God with us. Join us as we seek understanding in the sacred dance of the Trinity and the sacrifice that forever changed the course of history.

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I'm not a oneness. This is a compilation of quotes and scriptures showing Brother Branham's teaching and why it was not oneness. This is not intended to see the whole picture of the doctrine, but to see the places where Brother Branham did emphasize the distinction between father and son. They couldn't understand him. He was a mystery even to the apostles. No one could understand him because there was two people talking all the time. The person, jesus Christ, was talking and God was talking in him also. Sometimes it was Christ himself, sometimes it was the father that dwelt in him. You see it, they couldn't understand some things. He would say he talked in riddles to them.

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In this marvelous teaching here of Saint Paul and the backgrounds and the former chapters, he has specifically been dealing with the supreme deity of the Lord Jesus and who he was. Christ was God made so that men could feel him and touch him and fellowship with him. Christ, the Lord Jesus, was the body that God dwelt in. God was made flesh and dwelt among us. 1 Timothy 3.16,. Without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness, for God was manifest in flesh. The great Jehovah came down and was made tangible by living in the body of his own son, declaring and reconciling the world to himself. God was nothing. Christ was nothing short of God and God was nothing short of Christ. The two together made the Godhead bodily, made a little lower than angels, so that he could suffer. Angels cannot suffer. Jesus was the tabernacle that God dwelt in John 8.16-18,. And yet, if I judge, my judgment is true, for I am not alone, but I am the father that sent me. It is also written in near law that the testimony of two men is true. I am one that bear witness of myself and the father that sent me bear witness of me, and now the lamb. We want to talk about these two natures and these two beasts or bird one beast and one bird and how that God and Christ was represented in these two beings. If God is one personality, why or how could he talk to himself on Mount Transfiguration? While I've just explained that, you see, see, I'd like to ask you this. I'm going to when Jesus prayed to the father.

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You see, brother Branham begins speaking to a brother in the congregation. I believe you have the baptism of the Holy Ghost, don't you, brother? Won't you stand up just a minute? You claim to have the baptism of the Holy Ghost. The brother says yes, sir, I do too. Then what is that? And I don't claim that I have. I have the powers within myself to unfold these mysteries. I don't have the power to heal the sick. It's God.

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Brother Branham continues speaking to the brother in the congregation. I believe you're a minister. If I'm not mistaken, you're from Arkansas. All right now, and in you you have is to preach the gospel. Ordinarily is raised on a farm and around like that. You just don't know nothing about it. But something come into you to preach the gospel. You don't claim that to be yourself at all. That's another person called the Holy Spirit, is that right? Yes, sir, okay.

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Brother Branham continues speaking to the brother in the congregation. Now I want to ask you, do that Holy Ghost dwells within you? Is that right? The brother says that's right. Do you talk to him? Yes, sir, speak to him, pray to him. All right, that's all I want. Thank you very much. See, now you get it. Congregation says amen.

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I'll ask you one how did it come that when Jesus in st John 3, he said when the Son of man shall be, which is now and now is in heaven See, now is in heaven shall come to earth? See, the Son of man, which now is in heaven. And here he stood, right here, talking to the person. Now you answer me that one, jesus and the father was the self same person, just as the same as the Holy Spirit in me. You're looking to me preaching, but it's not me. It's not me can speak a word that could bring, as you know, an animal, sit there and look at it and kill the animal and eat it. That's creative power. That doesn't lay in a human being. It's not me.

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Could take a little boy here laying the doctors, laying him on his back with heart trouble tonight, and say thus sayeth William Branham, no, that's sayeth the Lord, it's finished. And bring him down to the doctor the next day and it's all gone. A Kid with leukemia, till its eyes are bulged out and yellow all over the stomach until they're taking it to the hospital to give it blood and things to even get it. Get it here and in five minutes time, cry for a hamburger and take it back to the doctor the next day and can't even find a trace of it. That's the sayeth William Branham, that's the sayeth the Lord.

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Yet he is an individual different from me, but the only way he's expressed is through me. See, that's how Jesus and the father was. Jesus said it's not me that do it the works, it's my father that dwelleth in me. He said for my, that's the reason people couldn't understand him. Sometimes it was Christ speaking or was the son speaking. Other times was the father speaking. He was a dual person. He was one man, the son. God was in him, which was tabernacling in him. But what did he do? Did he go around saying I'm the healer? Very contrary, he said I'm not the healer. He said it isn't me that dot the works, it's my father that dwelleth, or dwelleth in me.

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Second John, 1, verse 9 Whosoever transgresseth, whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both father and the son. Luke 22, verse 42, saying father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but thine be done. Now, remember, we are not the word, but we are the word. Uh-huh, now you got it.

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Jesus was not God, but he was God. He was a man, yet he was God. You could cry, and yet he could raise the dead. He could cry for a man being dead and raise him back up again. He was Jehovah Jairah, jehovah Rafa, jehovah Manassas. He was Jehovah, all completely was Jehovah. And yet he was a man. He owned the earth and made the earth and had not a place to lay his head.

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Now look what was their fuss with Jesus. Their fuss with Jesus because he was a man making himself God. He was God. God was in Christ, see, and he told them. He said don't look at me, it's not me, it's my father and he dwells in me. Oh see, now they was looking at that little body that was born of Mary. See, that wasn't God, that was the son of God. But God was in that body, it was God. He said if I do not the works of my father, then condemn me. But which one of you can condemn me of sin on belief of the word? Which word has God spoke that hasn't been fulfilled in me? They said he couldn't be deity and die the man. The body was not deity, but deity was in the body. Please explain the Trinity. How can the son said at the right end of the father, in their seating to the father, if they're not two persons? Well, my beloved friend, that's a revelation if Jesus said I'm my father or one out, then how can they be two? See, now they're not to.

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A woman once said to me, and I was explaining that said you and your wife or two, yet You're one. I said but God and the son is different from that, see. I said you see me, yes, do you see my wife? No. I said then, father and sons, different. Jesus said when you see me, you seen the father? See the father and the son.

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The father was Almighty Jehovah, god, dwelling in a tabernacle called Jesus Christ, which was anoint, the anointed son of God. Jesus was a man, god is a spirit and no man has seen God at Any time, but the only begotten of the father have declared him. He was his personality, his being, his Dean, deity. Whatever he was, his personality, his being, his deity, whatever he was, he was God. He was nothing less or nothing more than God. Yet he was a man. He was a man, a house that God dwelt in. That's right. He was God's dwelling place.

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But this had no beginning or had any end, and he did not say he met a priesthood. He met a man and called his name Melchizedek. He was a person, not a denomination, not a priesthood or a fatherhood. He was absolutely a man by the name of Melchizedek who was the king of Jerusalem. Not a priesthood, but a king without a father. Priesthoods don't have father and this man was without father, without mother, without beginning of days or ending of life.

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Now, the Son of God, who was this? This was Jehovah, this was Almighty God Himself. It could be no other Notice. He abideth forever. He had a testimony here that he liveth, he never dies, he never did, he never was nothing else but alive. He abideth forever. Now, jesus was made likened unto him. Now, the reason that there's a difference between God and Jesus Jesus had a beginning, god had no beginning, melchizedek had no beginning and Jesus had a beginning. But Jesus was made likened unto him. A priest abideth forever. And this Melchizedek was not Jesus, for he was God. And what made Jesus and God different? That Jesus was the tabernacle, that God dwelt in sea.

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Now, melchizedek, jesus had both father and mother, and this man never had father or mother. Jesus had a beginning of life and he had an end of life. This man had no father, no mother, no beginning of days or ending of life, but it was the self-same person. It was Melchizedek and Jesus was one, but Jesus was the earthly body, born and fashioned after sin. But watch Abraham, just in closing now, what a beautiful thing it was when Abraham returned from the slaughter of the kings. Watch what happened.

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Melchizedek come out to meet him, melchizedek which was the king of Salem, the king of peace, the king of righteousness. Who was he? He had no father, he had no mother. He wasn't Jesus, because Jesus had both father and mother. But this man had no father, had no mother.

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If you want to run that down, take Hebrew 7 chapter. He had no father, no mother, never did begin life, never did end life. He was the king of Salem, which is the king of Jerusalem, which is king of peace, which is king of righteousness, without father, without mother, without descent, neither beginning of deers or ending of life. It was God, sure it was. He came down in the form of Melchizedek, a priest, which was Christ, it was God. No one else could be Melchizedek but Christ himself, god himself, rather, see God himself, because he was without father and without mother. See, jesus had both father and mother. See, so this man was without father, father without mother, without beginning of days or ending of life.

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Here's the message we have here Jesus was Jehovah, unveiled in flesh. Come down, unveiled Now. God. The father, son and holy ghost is not like your finger, one like some people thinks it. That's the whole thing. It's just like no God is and the holy ghost was a mascot boylike, and there's no such thing. There's only one God, and I different agree with the organization of Pentecost that calls the oneness like your finger is one.

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That's wrong, absolutely it's wrong. Jesus couldn't have been his own father and if God is a man, then Jesus was born in sexual desire and not virgin birth. That settles the whole thing. You see, if he's one like your finger's one, then what? Then? He was his own daddy. How could he have been? That's wrong. He had a father. Jesus did.

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Now the oneness teaching of the oneness church. I certainly disagree with that. Thinking that Jesus is one like your finger is one. He had to have a father. If he didn't, how could he be his own father? And if his father was a man, like the Trinitarian says, then he was born of illegitimate birth. The two fathers. So you see, you're both wrong by arguing. See, god only had one name and his name is Jesus. That was his son. He took the name of his son God. Now, jesus, the body, was a man. We know that. That was the son of God. That was overshadowed.

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Now, we do not believe in the oneness type, the people that says God's like your finger, now here you get God in just exactly in between the oneness and trinity. You'll get the thing just exactly right now. And I'm not a oneness, no, sir, are you Trinitarian? People, get that away from you. I'm not a oneness, no, sir, I'm not a oneness, neither a Trinitarian. I believe what the Bible says. Now somebody says brother, man, I'm as a oneness. No, sir, I'm not a oneness.

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I do not believe that Jesus could be his own father. I believe that Jesus had a father and that was God. But God dwelled and tabernacled in this body called Jesus and he was a manual God with us and there's no other God beside this God. He is father, son and holy ghost. In the name of the father, son, holy ghost. Father, the Lord, son, jesus, holy ghost, logos, spirit of God, father, son, holy ghost, lord Jesus, christ. That's him, and in him dwelled the fullness of the Godhead bodily. God, almighty. The father dwelled in him at the day of the baptism, when he received the holy ghost, on the day when John baptized him. John said I behold and saw the spirit of God like a dove descending from heaven and a voice saying this is my beloved son, in whom I'm pleased to dwell in. Jesus said that God was with him. I and my father are one. My father dwells in me, not Jesus and being one with God, but God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself.

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And if the oneness, you disagree with the oneness because of there's one standing like that, yes, sir, jesus had a father, he was God. They baptized in the name of Jesus, I baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in many of the oneness. Now, I'm not a oneness. I don't believe in the oneness the way they do. I don't believe in Jesus like they'll say. Jesus there's a lot of Jesuses it's the Lord Jesus Christ. No, I'm not, don't. And I say, and some people say he's a Jesus. Only you're mistaken there. I wouldn't have that kind of a spirit on me, that dogmatic, ungodly thing like that. No, sir, I'm not a oneness, not at all. I'm not a trinity, neither I'm a Christian.

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I believe in God. I believe in God manifested in three offices. Now, his office is in my heart, in your heart and when Jesus, a carpenter's son, is physically speaking, when he come to the earth here, that's all he was known of. And the day that, when John baptized him, god have indicated him. God spoke from the heavens. John saw him coming in the form of a dove and said this is my beloved son, in whom I'm pleased to dwell the right translation there is in whom I'm pleased to dwell in Jesus immediately anointed with God. He was just a man until that time, but now he becomes the God man. He was anointed with the Holy Spirit was in him.

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John Bear records seeing God descending out of heaven like a dove, a voice, saying this is my beloved son, in whom I'm pleased to dwell in.

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And he dwelt in Christ. God Jehovah. The father dwelt in his son Jesus Christ tabernacle, like there, manifesting himself, showing the world what he was. And then, when he did, he created, overshadowed, a little virgin named Mary. God Jehovah did and created In her womb a cell, blood cell. That blood cell developed cells and it brought forth a man which was Christ Jesus, god Almighty.

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The father dwelt in him at the day of the baptism when he received the Holy Ghost.

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On the day when John baptized him.

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John said I be held and saw the Spirit of God like a dove descending from heaven and a voice saying this is my beloved son, in whom I'm pleased to dwell in.

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Jesus said that God was with him.

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I and my father are one. My father dwells in me, not Jesus and being one with God, but God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself and you won. This, brother, and many of you get off the wrong track when you try to think that God is one like your fingers, one. He can't be his own father, he can't be. And when he was baptized, going straight way out of the water, we find that the Holy Spirit, god, like in a form of dove, coming from heaven and a voice saying this is my beloved son, in whom I'm pleased to dwell, in the right translation of that, who I'm pleased to dwell in, because God was in Christ and now, when he came down upon him, you become the anointed one, the Messiah. A Form of a dove come down from heaven and a voice coming from that form of dove, the Spirit of God, a voice coming from the Spirit of God, which the dove was, the Spirit of God, saying this is my beloved son, in Whom I am pleased to dwell now.

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That's the King James version. Now, in the original version is something the same thing. It says in whom I'm pleased to dwell in. And God dwelted Christ. We know that. He said it's not me that do at the works, it's my father that dwelleth in me. He do at the work. St John 5, 19. He said very, very. I say unto you, the son can do Nothing in himself, but what he sees the father doing, that do at the son likewise. And a voice come from it saying this is my beloved son, in whom, in whom I'm pleased to dwell. And if I was going to make it so, you'd understand it better that the early translators and King James. If you get the original Greek, it reads like this this is my beloved son, in whom I'm pleased to dwell in. But you see, it's the same thing. In whom I'm pleased to dwell. See, I'm pleased to dwell in my son. Let me become Emmanuel, god with us, the God himself saying this is my beloved son, in whom I'm pleased to dwell, in God and man becoming one.

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John the Baptist looked away one day and when he did, he saw a dove and a voice saying this is my beloved son in whom I'm pleased to dwell in. That's what he saw then. He saw Jesus at God being the same person, because the Spirit Come down from heaven like a dove, saying this is my beloved son in whom I'm pleased to dwell, because he was the manifestation of all the word of the prophet and he was the fullness of the word. The word was in him, all the word. He was Emmanuel, god manifested in flesh. God come down in the form of the Holy Spirit, two wings, like a dove, settling down and went upon him saying this is my beloved son in whom I am pleased to dwell in.

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Now the King James says there, says in whom I am pleased to dwell. What a difference does it make in whom I am pleased to dwell or whom I'm pleased to dwell in? See, in whom I'm pleased to dwell? There it was God and man. Heaven and earth come together. God and man united the greatest hour till that time there was on earth or ever had been, but in Christ. He is God's tabernacle. He is the place that God came into himself and dwelt in him. This is my beloved son in whom I'm pleased to dwell in. There is where God tabernacled brought his name and placed it upon Jesus Christ. Therefore, his name was put in a man, his son, jesus Christ, in which he tabernacled himself and in that tabernacled. Now watch when Jesus come. Watch what he did to prove himself to be that Messiah, the anointed one. One day after he had received it, the father had came down and dwelt in him in the form of a dove coming down from heaven, saying this is my beloved son, in whom I am pleased to dwell in. That's the reason he said I and my father are one. My father dwelleth in me. It's not me that doeth the works, it's my father that dwelleth in me.

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John Bear record seeing that spirit of God like a dove descending, a voice coming from it, saying this is my beloved son, in whom I'm pleased to dwell. See he, and he dwelt in him. Now, this low gas that was in him, which was the spirit of God, the anointing, through the sanctifying grace of the blood, brought many sons to God. Which is anointed with the same low gas, said there is the Messiah. See a light above him like a dove coming upon him. Or records, said he, that told me in the wilderness go baptize with water. Said upon whom thou shalt see the spirit. The light like a dove Coming down was perhaps the same pillar of fire that followed the children of Israel in the wilderness, coming upon him, because that was the anointed. The low gas came upon him and he said I bear record, this is the Messiah In the garden of Gethsemane.

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The anointing left him. You know he had to die as a sinner. He died a sinner, you know that, not his sins, but mine and yours. The spirit left him. In the garden of Gethsemane had to die a man, remember, friends, he didn't have to do that. That was God. God anointed that flesh, which was human flesh, and he didn't. If he'd have went up there as God, he'd never have died. That kind of death Can't kill God.

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