Do flying saucers and otherworldly entities have their roots in ancient scriptures? Embark on an eye-opening odyssey as we scrutinize UFO encounters throughout history, including Wang Zhen's stunning 1977 sightings, and compare them with the enigmatic visions of biblical figures like Ezekiel. Delve into the spiritual and extraterrestrial theories that swirl around these mystifying experiences, with a critical look at prophetic teachings and potential deceptions.
Strap in for a deep examination of the military's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena investigations, including the riveting USS Nimitz incident and the perplexities it unfolds. We navigate through the "five observables" that defy explanation, guided by insights from Luis Elizondo, ex-head of the AATIP, and the intriguing Pentagon report. The conversation takes a turn toward the spiritual as we consider William Marion Branham's perspectives and the possibility of interdimensional beings, dissecting the impactful research of Bud Hopkins on abductions and hypnotic regression.
Whitley Strieber's bewildering experiences with "the visitors" propel us into a realm of personal testimony and the profound effects these encounters can have. Teaming up with religious studies professor Jeffrey Kripal, Strieber offers a unique interpretation that may just reshape our understanding of alien beings. We wrap up our discussion by exploring the less-discussed dark side of UFO phenomena, contemplating their potential connection to spiritual warfare and their place in prophetic end times. Join us for a provocative exploration of the unknown that promises to shift your paradigm on celestial and supernatural occurrences.
Do flying saucers and otherworldly entities have their roots in ancient scriptures? Embark on an eye-opening odyssey as we scrutinize UFO encounters throughout history, including Wang Zhen's stunning 1977 sightings, and compare them with the enigmatic visions of biblical figures like Ezekiel. Delve into the spiritual and extraterrestrial theories that swirl around these mystifying experiences, with a critical look at prophetic teachings and potential deceptions.
Strap in for a deep examination of the military's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena investigations, including the riveting USS Nimitz incident and the perplexities it unfolds. We navigate through the "five observables" that defy explanation, guided by insights from Luis Elizondo, ex-head of the AATIP, and the intriguing Pentagon report. The conversation takes a turn toward the spiritual as we consider William Marion Branham's perspectives and the possibility of interdimensional beings, dissecting the impactful research of Bud Hopkins on abductions and hypnotic regression.
Whitley Strieber's bewildering experiences with "the visitors" propel us into a realm of personal testimony and the profound effects these encounters can have. Teaming up with religious studies professor Jeffrey Kripal, Strieber offers a unique interpretation that may just reshape our understanding of alien beings. We wrap up our discussion by exploring the less-discussed dark side of UFO phenomena, contemplating their potential connection to spiritual warfare and their place in prophetic end times. Join us for a provocative exploration of the unknown that promises to shift your paradigm on celestial and supernatural occurrences.
Recent news reports and headlines across the world are now acknowledging that intelligence agencies from many nations encounter strange phenomena that cannot be explained with scientific means. Crafts that are powered and that have intelligence guiding them appear around military installations, on radar and in the sight of military pilots. An abundance of reports and materials are easily searchable and available to the public. What was once seen as a hoax and a conspiracy theory is now being released in bite-sized pieces by various governments around the world. To what end they are doing that now we don't know. But as I begin to research this topic, I saw that there is a vast amount of information available from eyewitness testimony, and that it goes even further than mere sightings. The real question we get to is what is the origin of these creatures? Is it outer space? Are they from another galaxy far beyond? Is travel like that even possible? What evidence, if any, is there that they are from deep space? Or are they all around us and simply appearing to us? Now let's try to answer these questions by the word as we go to study this topic.
Speaker 1:Greetings Bible believers and followers of the End Time Message. Welcome to another episode of the Jason DeMars podcast, the place where we explore the incredible mysteries hidden within the pages of the Bible. I am your host, jason DeMars. It's time to get started on another journey into the heart of God's Word. If it's your desire to grow in revelation and see the message in the light of the Bible, you're in the right place. Today, brothers and sisters, we delve into the Scripture guided by the extraordinary revelations that God chose to unveil through Brother William Marion Branham, a messenger with a unique calling to fulfill Malachi 4 and Revelation 10-7 and unlock the secrets of the End Time Message. Our purpose isn't to have another basic Bible study. We're going to dig deep and peel back the layers of prophecy, decoding the signs and perhaps discovering how the Bible resonates within the very fabric of our present day and time. In this podcast, my purpose is to help you grow in your faith through solid Bible teaching through the lens of the message of Malachi 4. So grab your Bible, a cup of coffee and let's get started. And remember that your feedback, testimonies, questions and prayer requests are always welcome. Please send them on social media or at jasondemarscom.
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Speaker 1:This is a strange topic that we're looking into. I know it might seem like this is a waste of time to look into, but I believe that it's a topic that's on people's minds and I believe that the word of God has the answers for us when we begin to dig deeply into this the scripture. I want to start before we do that, and then I want to begin to read some quotes from Brother Branham 2 Corinthians 11-13,. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2 Corinthians 11-14,. And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light, verse 15,. Therefore, it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness, whose ends shall be according to their works. And so we see that when angels appear, it certainly needs to be checked by the word. Brother Branham says this. He teaches himself this is, if the angel of the Lord would come to him and tell him any other thing then, besides water, baptism in the name of the Lord, jesus Christ that it wouldn't be the angel of the Lord. And we're also reminded of the testimony of, I think, st Martin, who that angel appeared to the other minister, and that minister brought something that wasn't contrary to the word, and when it came in the presence of St Martin, the robe that this false minister had on fell off, and so the devil will appear as angels in order to deceive, and so we have to be careful and watchful. In what does this? What does it produce? Angels are appearing, but devils are appearing as well, in the form of angels of light.
Speaker 1:1956, the junction time. The United States is shaking, the great bureaus and so forth and the great Pentagon and all of that investigating supernatural things. Flying saucers, what are they? Oh, they say we've seen little men in them. All kinds of stories. They try to deny it, but they're there. Why? God said that there'd be signs in the heaven and above and in the earth. We got it, they're afraid, in 1956, a blushing prophet you seen in the paper the other day where they're requiring science, the Pentagon, to answer these flying saucers. It wasn't myth, it wasn't something you'd imagine, it was real. It wasn't intelligence. They flew in battle formation. They could stop, they could start, they could stop. They could tell it was intelligence, they knew it. The people laughed. They said flying saucers made fun out of it. But you know what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1:Jesus said before he comes, there will be signs in the heaven above. Did you notice? Before he started destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of their sex affair. He sent angels down to investigate it. Angels has come to the earth in the last few years. They've been seen among people. I mean honest, bloodwashed people who know it. They've even stood and had their pictures taken. That's right. Angelic beings has visit, taking word back to the Father that sin has heaped till the stars can hardly shine In Watchman. What of the Night 1958.
Speaker 1:And you heard the interview with that man, I suppose, yesterday on the radio, who claims that he's talked to people. I do not wish to regard that man, but his whole system is contrary to the word. It isn't right. And on Mars they don't have death. And they've come over here to teach us how not to have death. But when it come to proof, he didn't have one speck of proof that he could prove it, just some mythical idea he had drawn up. And in my opinion it's false because the Bible said different from what he said. Oh, now look at what Brother random is saying Some, some. This person is said he's met with an alien and the alien says we come from Mars and we're coming to show you how not to have death. Seems like an angel of light coming to show how you don't have to have death. What is it? His whole system was false, contrary to the Bible, fascinating. All right, let's continue on.
Speaker 1:I might express what I do think about flying saucers. I do not believe that they're shadows, I do not believe that they're mythical, I believe. And this doesn't make it right, it's just only my idea. The Lord has not told me this is what they are. But by looking in the scriptures, for there is where we find all things Jesus said. As it was in the days of Sodom, so shall it be in the coming of the Son of man. And before the destruction of Sodom, fire. And fire fell and burned the city and the planes. Up there was angels sent from heaven who looked in and searched out to find out if these things were true or not. And would it not be just like God to send back his angels to investigate and to find out, just before the great destruction comes? And did you notice? There was one angel who came who visited an old man who had made a decision for God and was living, despised the world in a tent back on the desert because nobody had chosen and took all his wealth. Because somebody had chosen and took all his wealth. But he said that's all right, I'll just stay here in the will of God.
Speaker 1:My 1962, the end time sign, seed looks. What's just been over. You've seen it in the radio, so you saw it on television, it's been in the newspapers, flying saucers everywhere and the Pentagon let it out the other day, about six weeks ago. It wasn't fictitious, they even showed it on television how they caught these saucers with intelligence lights that come down hanging over the Pentagon like that all over Washington DC, and they caught it on radar and had pilots up there and they'd come right in around them, surround them, move away with lightning speed and intelligence. What is it In the sermon events made clear by prophecy 1965, and also in the book of Mark and Matthew, where he said these great signs and wonders would appear in the sky and People call them saucers.
Speaker 1:Flying saucers Can vanish with the power and quickness of a thought. Intelligence that can move in, he can write, he can speak and can do whatever he wants to. Wow, christ is Revealed in his own word, 1965. You see these little pockets going through the air. They call saucers and so forth. People say that well, we better leave that alone. Here. All these people come up missing. You say don't hear from them. They're standing there and they're not there. That's the way the rapture is going to be. One of them will drop right down in this terrestrial body, will take on a celestial body. They'll be hide, hair or bones left, it'll be transformed in a moment of time, dropping right out of space and taking home that. We see all going on now and the Pentagon wondering about these lights and mystic lights and everything they're seeing in the sky. You've seen they had one here in the paper at Jeffersonville this week and so forth a mystic light. So, oh, they don't know what it is. But listen, little children, it's going to pick you up one of these days. See, see, don't worry.
Speaker 1:All right, now let's let's kind of look at the whole picture that brother Brandon brought. These are, as far as I can tell, compilation of almost all the statements brother Brandon makes about what we call UFOs, or now we call them UAPs. Brother Brandon spoke of them in quite vivid terms, based on news reports of his time. As you can hear, he spoke of reports of military sightings, details about how they operated and even about Alien abductions, though he doesn't call it that way. He then relates to us that he feels that they're angelic visitations, or or investigative angels, as the angels that went to Sodom to see if it was all together, as it had come into God's ears. I believe this is the truth. I believe also that there is a flipside To good angels, because there's also evil angels that come as angels of light to deceive. By now, I want to examine some of these reports and Compare them back with scripture and what brother Brandon said.
Speaker 1:For quite some time you know you, the history channel different places there's been a growing interest in UFOs and aliens. There's been many detailed reports of alien appearances, alien abductions and many, many reports from both private citizens and government officials about the appearance of Alien spacecraft. So let's look at some stories that eyewitnesses have told about their personal experiences. First, I'm going to start with. I've got a document here they got it's from the CIA Eyewitness accounts of UFO sightings. Most of these are from the 70s that the reports were made, though the events Took place at various times, which the document Will described, and this was approved for release in February of 2010. It's an article by Jin Tao sightings of flying saucers in China. These are excerpts from letters printed below of first-hand observations. This report was given, was told, in September 24th 1979 from Yang Ji song, a teacher at a supplemental school in Tianjin's eastern suburbs.
Speaker 1:It was in the autumn of 1943, possibly a day in September, at some time after 1900 hours in the evening at my native home in King Zhang. I Was enjoying myself in the courtyard when suddenly something flew across the sky from east to west, shining white light. With the light wave the area covered was not large. Its center seemed like a saucer Revolving around a fixed point in the sky. When I saw it passing overhead I ran up to the roof of the house. That wants to watch it. But it disappeared in about a minute. Later on I heard that it had landed somewhere. I think I was not the only one to see it at that time, and later on there was a lot of a discussion about it. It was said to be a new weapon that Japan had invented. All right, on 25 September 1979 a report was received from Wang Juwan of the Burmese Language unit of the Beijing Foreign Languages Bureau.
Speaker 1:Around 1900 or 20 hundred hours on the evening of 18 September 1971, before the sky had entirely darkened, before the moon had come out and not long after the students from Xi County In human Yunnan province who were attending the May 7th Cater School at the Foreign Language Bureau in Beijing had eaten, everybody was in his room, some studying, some reading newspaper, some writing and some chatting among themselves. Since I had nothing to do. I walked out the main entrance of the dormitory only to suddenly discover, at a distance of About 2000 or 3000 meters up in the sky, a huge light lighted wheel Slowly revolving in a clockwise direction while moving forward. After I shouted, the people in their rooms claim came flying out to watch. Unfortunately, when I first discovered the lighted wheel, it had already passed over our Cater School and was located at about 60 to 80 degree angle to it. It headed in a northwesterly direction, away from us and slowly floated away. This great flying wheel assumed the form of a smoke cloud and it looked a little like a spiral nebula in pictures of heavenly bodies. It emitted a yellowish light, but I heard no sound. The center of this huge lighted wheel of Turning was quite slow, but its speed of forward motion was relatively fast. I observed it for about one minute until it gradually disappeared across the horizon to the northwest. All Ten of us kept looking at this extraordinary phenomena until we could see it no longer.
Speaker 1:All right, I want to keep reading, but as I read this, I think of the portion of Scripture and Ezekiel speaking of the wheels and the wheel in the middle of the wheel. And so then there's these turning. I mean, they're almost describing this type of appearance themselves. Now, I don't believe that that would be God himself Appearing to these people. If anything's possible, I don't say, but based on the scriptural principle, this is not God himself appearing to people. He doesn't work in that manner. All right, now here's another report. I'm just gonna skip down a little bit.
Speaker 1:On 28 February 1979, a report was received from Wang Zhen, second year student in the Department of Chinese language at Genzu teachers University. It was probably one day on August, in August 1977, when I was at by Dounzu in Jingtai County, wu Wei prefecture, gansu Province. At the time I was a trade union cater and the Yingxian Textile mill in Gansu Province. Well, I could tell you one thing I am not good at pronouncing Chinese words or Cities, so forgive me for butchering this and I had just arrived, together with a group of employees from the mill, at a farm operated by the mill where we were going to join in the wheat harvest. That evening a movie was being shown in a unit at the southern edge of our farm and many of the people from our farm Went to see. It was already quite late when I went, probably between 2030 and 2100, hours was already dark and stars flickered in the sky. Visibility was excellent and the open countryside attract, attract as far as the eye could see. I and two other colleagues walked together examining the magnificent star studded sky as we walked.
Speaker 1:Since childhood I have been quite fond of astronomy. In while a primary school student, shanghai, I joined the astronomy section of the municipal youth science and technology guidance station. Suddenly, the attention of all three of us was attracted by a marvelous flying object. Since it was so peculiar, everyone seemed frightened, held their breasts and made not a sound. A very large flying object Emitting a milky, white, strong light, flew soundlessly over our heads, flying off to our right side at not too great a speed, going from north to south. Our first impression was that it was Not far, far from us the surface of the ground because if most of the stars may be said to be as large as a Sesame seed, the flying object was as big as a one cent nickel coin. Or else, if it was distant from us, it was extremely large. It was rotating, but I have forgotten the direction of rotation, and if it had a Power source that emitted light and it had a power source that emitted light, the light was very bright but not ir eye piercing. The light beam shown down in a whirl like shape, like smoke rings, as the body of flying objects object Revolved. Each ring came out in about one or two seconds. This flying object seemed to be multi Storied because it did not look like a circular iron cake but rather like the cover for an enamel mug and because it gave me the feeling that, in addition to the light Projected downward as it rooted, that the light from other Small points of light were even brighter than the light beam. Entire flying object was shrouded in a vapor like Light that was a little less bright than the whirl shaped light because that shown down from the rotation and the flying object was not flat. Within about one half to one minute it disappeared over their horizon to the front of us. And you know it goes on and brings quite a numb number. Number of Other reports, another one, another report.
Speaker 1:It says what appeared, he said, suddenly I saw a strange star fly over the tops of our heads and I immediately, excitably, told everyone to look. We saw only that it belched smoke and shot out Tongues of flame as it rotated off to the south. The thing was about as large as a small basin and it appeared from view within a minute. You know all the reports come in but it's basically they're all somewhat similar like that and I don't want to get tied up in those reports. So as we see similarities that are being reported Also, I'm going to go to some the source of the history channel and it's going to talk about one specific situation called the Nimitz and we'll read about that. You know a UFO has earned its unidentified status when cockpit transcripts from elite Navy fighter jets include this frantic pilot exclamation Holy smokes, what is that In?
Speaker 1:Luis Elizondo ran a small team at the US Department of Defense investigating military base reports of an unidentified aerial phenomena, uap. He heard numerous such accounts by some of the most highly trained aeronautics experts in the world. In the military. They describe objects that appeared to be intelligently controlled, possessing aerodynamic capabilities that far surpass any currently known aircraft technology. Now, pursuing his investigations as part of to the Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences, elizondo is an integral part of the investigative team featured on history's unidentified inside America's UFO investigation, where they have continued to gather eyewitness accounts like these it's white, it has no wings, it has no rotors, it didn't fly like an aircraft. It was so unpredictable High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration. It was going 70 plus knots underwater. Those reports from Navy fighter pilots, radar operators and other witnesses from the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier strike group incident from November 2004 were among a handful of shocking encounters the unidentified team explored when Elizondo ran the Defense Department initiative called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, or ATIP. He compiled a list of extraordinary, logic-defying capabilities most commonly associated with unidentified aerial phenomenon sightings. He calls those traits the five observables One anti-gravity lift.
Speaker 1:Like any known aircraft, these objects have been sighted overcoming the Earth's gravity with no visible means of propulsion. They also lack any flight surfaces such as wings. In the Nimitz incident, witnesses described the crafts as tubular, shaped like a tic-tac candy. Two sudden and instantaneous acceleration. The objects may accelerate or change direction so quickly that no human pilot could observe or survive the G-forces. They would be crushed.
Speaker 1:In the Nimitz incident, radar operators say they tracked one of the UFOs as it dropped from the sky at more than 30 times the speed of sound. Black Aces Squadron Commander David Fraver, the Nimitz-based fighter pilot who was sent to intercept one of the objects, likened its rapid side-to-side movements, later captured on infrared video, due that of a ping-pong ball. Air operators on the USS Princeton part of the Nimitz carrier group tracked the object accelerating from a standing position to traveling 60 miles in a minute an astounding 3,600 miles an hour. According to manufacturer Boeing, the F-A-18 Super Hornet fighter jet typically currently reaches a maximum speed of Mach 1.6, or about 1,200 miles an hour.
Speaker 1:3. Hypersonic velocities without signatures. If an aircraft travels faster than the speed of sound, it typically leaves signatures like vapor trails or sonic booms. Many UFO accounts note the lack of such evidence. 4. Even when objects are observed, getting a clear and detailed view of them, either through pilot sightings, radar or other means, remains difficult. Witnesses generally only see the glow or haze around them. 5. Winds medium travel. Some UAP travel have been seen moving easily in and between different environments, such as space, the Earth's atmosphere and even water. In the Nimitz incident, witnesses described the UFO hovering over a churning disturbance just under the ocean's otherwise calm surface, leading to speculation that another craft had entered the water. Uss Princeton radar operator, gary Voorhees later confirmed from a Navy sonar operator in the area that day that a craft was moving faster than 70 knots, roughly two times the speed of nuclear subs.
Speaker 1:No one has yet gotten close to crafts that display these traits, so their origins are still unknown. Are they a super top secret US defense project? Do they hail from Russia, china or even from even further afield? The only thing we do know is that their capabilities exceed any technologies currently in the US arsenal. Alright, so incredible what they're talking about.
Speaker 1:Alright, from the National Geographic, what the Pentagon report says about UFOs. I'm going to read this yes, navy pilots and other military personnel have been seeing mysterious flying objects for decades. A Navy task force reviewed 144 sightings by US government personnel that occurred between 2004 and 2021. No, the Pentagon doesn't know what they are. There's no evidence that the objects were sent by space aliens, but the report mandated by Congress as part of the 2021 National Intelligence Authorization Act confirms that the sighting remains unidentified. But no one in the intelligence community uses the term UFO anymore. The new moniker is Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, or UAP, a name change meant to signal that the US government is taking the mysterious sightings seriously. The report, which includes a classified section available only to lawmakers, details the results of investigations by Defense Department's UAP Task Force Established in 2017,. Strange flying objects with seemingly bizarre aerodynamic abilities have been spotted by pilots on radar and with infrared sensors. The report does state that the UAP's task force was not able to attribute any of the sightings to American military or other advanced US government technology. Some UAP observations could be attributable to developments in classified programs by US entities. The report says we were unable to confirm, however, that these systems accounted for any of the UAP reports we collected.
Speaker 1:Interest in the sightings waxed and wane, but definitely spiked in late 2014 and early 2015 when super hornets attached to the USS Roosevelt began countering fast-moving, unidentified aircraft that looked, in one pilot's words, like a cube inside a sphere. Equipped with upgraded radar, these warplanes were able to track the strange objects Early the next year. Three sets of gun camera videos also captured flying objects, which have since been nicknamed gimbal and go fast. They're all going against the wind. The wind's 120 knots to the west. When pilot remarks in a rec recorded encounter Look at that thing, dude. Another cries out Look at that thing, it's rotating.
Speaker 1:The naval aviators who shot the footage have not been identified, but two pilots have come forward as witnesses, lieutenant Danny Alcoyne and Lieutenant Ryan Graves In both 2014 and 2015,. They spotted odd returns on their radar screens and captured strange wingless tailless objects on the airplane's video cameras. In interviews, alcoyne has said that the objects reacted to the warplanes and moved around them. These pilots and others who remain unidentified, sight objects at various altitudes, including sea level, and tracked them, accelerating to hypersonic speeds, greater than five times the speed of sound. Some exhibited extreme endurance, staying in the air for up to 12 hours without refueling. Others seemed to descend into the water, as shown on videos taken by Navy personnel. Okay, now let's look at this for a moment. Let's just study that.
Speaker 1:So number one is they travel in ways that are unknown, impossible for the human body to travel. They appear and disappear. They make turns in ways that would create G forces that would kill human pilots. They can travel at the same speed underwater as they do above water. So, in other words, the tension of the water doesn't affect it, the tension of the atmosphere doesn't affect it. Now, in none of this have we seen that these objects come from space into our, into Earth's atmosphere. From what we can tell in all the reports, they simply arrive, they're there, they appear, they appear and they disappear.
Speaker 1:I can personally tell of my own experience on a number of occasions seeing objects in the distance that were made out of light, from what I could tell, and following me and when following me at a slow speed, off at the distance and then suddenly turning directions and then vanishing. I've, with a friend of mine, we pulled up to a stop sign. I was in college, I think I was 20 years old, not serving the Lord, and we stopped at a stop sign late at night, like during finals week. We were going to Perkins to study and eat some breakfast in the middle of the night and as we stopped, appeared above us amber, glowing orb and the orb was living, the light was living and it just was there above us and the response that we had is both of us broke out in goosebumps and we were terrified to even talk. I slowly turned my head and looked at him and he looked at me and we said what is that? And I hushed tone and then it suddenly Moved away at such terrific speed like lightning dawn. That was my own personal experience and so Private individuals, people on video, people.
Speaker 1:I've captured these, these sightings. It goes on and on. I mean it's, it's, it's in the thousands, tens of thousands even of documented on video Sightings where hover the, these lights are hovering, they stay there, they are there in formation and then suddenly they go. So If they, if these UAPs, want to harm us, you know, physically harm us, then they certainly could with with ease, from what it from, based on the technology that we're seeing there, if it is indeed technology. But they they're not interested in harming, from what it seems, they're interested in Observing. They're they're interested in observing and they're interested in creating some sort of effect on the witnesses. And so If there was harm in mind, that would have happened and been done and over with. But there's no recorded evidence of destructive patterns from any of these Phenomena and the phenomena, whatever it is, it leaves people not knowing what it is. What could it be? What's the answer? Because we're modern, scientific people, I Think the conclusion everyone jumps to is that these are aliens from outer space.
Speaker 1:But I think that is a an error and a mistake To look at it that way. Now, the second thing that brother Branam alludes to and speaks about is Alien abductions. Now again, they say alien abductions as though they're from some galaxy far beyond. Now I Don't think that we can jump to that conclusion necessarily. There's no proof that there are Space aliens. There's no proof Other than the word of of these appearances, saying they're from outer space. We don't have any evidence as far as has been released that there are craft coming from Outer space through the atmospheres, into our, into the realm of Earth.
Speaker 1:So, from what I can tell, from what I can tell in the evidence that's there, is that these are simply appearing, they're from somewhere here and if you, if you study this at all, you can find out that these craft come out of the sea, they come out of the earth and they appear in the sky. So they're among us, they're around us, all around us. Somehow. It's easy to explain as a Christian. They're in another dimension. They're in another dimension, in the, in the earth, in the, in the sea or in the sky, and they're appearing here, all right, and so you know. We look at the bigger picture. Brother Bannum says I'll tell you what they are their investigative angels. Amen, that's the truth. They are in there. They're appearing is Much like the appearing, the be, the appearance in the Bible in In ancient times.
Speaker 1:You, you find that they say the gods would appear and that the gods would appear, and you see some of these things. They're traveling on spherical objects that are, that are made out of light and People in historical times worshipped these entities, their angels, and there's demons, the gods of the nations, our devils is what the Bible tells us, and they're not just a myth, they're. They're. They're real, their demon gods, and In in history we have these same type of phenomena appearing and they're appearing in the form of angelic beings to godly people like Ezekiel, a wheel in the middle of the wheel, and they're also appearing in In the same form, but their demons demanding worship and getting worship, and they appear in many different forms and their physical Appearance there, the, the people of history, had these same experiences, only in history. They said they're gods, because that's the way the minds of people work back then. Now we don't say they're gods, we say that they are aliens, and the gods of history brought a message to the people For them to follow and to worship, and that and and the aliens that are appearing today also bring a message, and I'm gonna I want to examine that. We have angels and we have demonic forces appearing, and we're so scientific that we have to have a natural Explanation explanation to it. Now I'm gonna read the case of bud Hopkins and his research that he's done. This is quoting from an article from PBS org.
Speaker 1:And in retrospect, now that I know about the abduction phenomenon and I've been looking into it for practically 20 years, I Realized that in those early years, before we accepted the idea of occupants, before we accepted the idea of abductions, and we were just looking at the objects themselves, that it was as if we were trying to get the license plate number on the getaway car without having figured out what the crime was. But as these cases began to come my way, where people were reporting a sighting, a period of missing time, they couldn't account for a couple of hours Perhaps they were in a car, the car ended up on another road, aimed in the wrong direction. They were having nightmares and fears and so on. Afterwards you have to assume that something traumatic had occurred in a number of these cases. So I used a couple of friends were psychiatrists, psychologists and others to help us with Hypnotic regressions, to look into these experiences that the people were unable to recall all the details of, and and one of the interesting things, of course, is the people who are doing the hypnosis for us were all skeptics. I don't think they ended up skeptics, but that's the way they began. But as the case material want, mounted up and, in case after case after case, replicated the cases before, and these were totally believable people from all walks of life, and even down to tiny details and their descriptions of what happened to them. These tiny details were replicated again and again. You have to feel you're dealing with a phenomenon that has an absolute core of reality about it.
Speaker 1:Nova Hopkins, this what is your best response to people who believe abductees must simply be crazy, that this is just crazy Mentally stuff? Do you think, though, they would feel differently after they got a chance to meet and hear directly from these people? Well, the issue of whether the abductees are crazy by the thousands we're talking about the thought by the thousands is, I think, a simple question to answer. I mean, these people can be psychologically tested, as they have been. We instituted a psychological series of psychological tests with a group of Abductees without informing the psychologists of the nature of our sample many years ago, and there was no psychopathology that emerged from the testing, and this is what happens again and again. So, again, attached to some Thousands of UFO sightings, there are experiences that people have and they're being called up, being abducted. I Want to look at this More closely and look at one of the experiences on December 26 now I think I'm quoting from Wikipedia about Whitley striber. Whitley striber is a interesting case and I think you're gonna be fascinated by this strange thing on this.
Speaker 1:On December 26 1985, when he was 40 years old, whitley striber awoke as he was being carried out of his cabin in New York's Hudson Valley To a tent in the surrounding woods where he was beaten, poked and prodded by unknown assailants. A Circle of observers around him included giant insects and masked trollish figures, as well as an old friend, human, whom striber later learned had died several months earlier. In the years that followed, striber had more strange Experiences with entities. He came to call the visitors. One night he found himself in flagrant. A year or two later, two mysterious beings implanted a small piece of metal in his ear. Over time he recalled events that had happened much earlier in his life Encounters with diminutive blue men out of body experiences and strange childhood episodes at Randolph Air Force Base in his native San Antonio. At least, this is what striber perceived happened to him, as recorded in his best-selling novel 1987 book communion and several sequels. As a result, he became the poster boy for alien abduction, despite maintaining that he didn't know exactly what had happened to him.
Speaker 1:After communion's publication, striber received nearly half a million letters from readers describing their own close Encounters. Half a million, wow. My first books were unfortunate in one respect, and that they were so vividly written that readers in the media looked at them as descriptions of experiences rather than descriptions of perception. He says there's a great deal of difference between the two, though critics were often savage. The Los Angeles Times refused to place the first sequel to communion on its nonfiction Bestseller list. The book appeared on the fiction list instead.
Speaker 1:Striber has struck, stuck to his guns. This month he will release his 36 book, the Supernatural a new vision of the unexplained, a collaboration with Rice University professor of religion Jeffrey Kripal that considers stribers experiences through the lens of comparative religious study. Its chapters alternate between Stribers autobiographical accounts and Kripal's examination of those reports using the tools of his discipline. Kripal, whose research interests include the mystical and paranormal, suggests that stribers experiences with the vis visitors are not unlike St Paul's encounter on the road to Damascus or Moses Moses interaction with the burning bush. If stribers telling the truth and Kripal is convinced he is his accounts might offer religious historians a modern case study of a perceived encounter with extraordinary beings.
Speaker 1:I want to give you a brief introduction to the book Beings. I want to look at this. This is taken from an article about striber, and this section of the article is called Alien Days. Remember, this Earth has given birth to something we call the human mind, but the visitors view it as a precious resource of innovation and, ultimately, of ecstasy. They are indifferent to power but willing to use dark appearances to give lessons from Striper in Summer of Promise, summer of Danger I had between 1985 and 1994 were scary, but only because they were so unusual.
Speaker 1:The people or beings I met were complex and, in the end, gentle. They had a wonderful, subtle sense of humor. There were many personalities involved, obviously many different individuals. My life with them was spiritually and intellectually rewarding. They responded with deep understanding to the path I was on and worked with me as true masters work with a student on the journey toward higher consciousness. This was an extremely subtle, paradoxical and complicated experience. I encountered many different levels of being, some of them openly terrible, others more neutral, others sublime. I have no way of knowing if they were all the same or different creatures entirely.
Speaker 1:The message of my contact experience is therefore clear. Face the fear and you will get rewarded by breaking down natural barriers to perception that impede you from interacting completely with the world in which you lived. My goodness, face the fear and you'll get rewarded. Wow. So, having lived with the visitors for many years, striper describes the beings as emanating from a world that reaches across space and time, that penetrates not only this universe and its secrets but many others as well. That is ancient beyond belief and, in a way that I can hardly even begin to explain, impeccable. I'm not saying that they're pleasant. They're as tough as nails, as mean as snakes and as dangerous as plutonium. You cannot be with them without also being with your own truth. Then you see what you really are A little fragment in a vastness so great, so various and so shockingly unimaginably conscious that it completely swallows you. And this more or less sums up Striper's objective, mostly impartial view of his alleged experiences with the beings. There is a dark side to them, but one that seems to provide context or shading for a far larger experience, which includes positive and negative aspects. Overall, striper seems to believe that the effects of his close encounters have been beneficial to him and, although unsure how many different beings or kinds of beings he has interacted with over the years. He is sure about one of them.
Speaker 1:The woman whose portrait is on the cover of communion was, without a doubt, the greatest master I have ever known, her being projected devastatingly powerful knowledge. She has been with me for longer than life itself. I am one of her many projects in the world of the soul. She is rich On a big journey in the direction of ecstasy and seeking to travel. They are the only way you can in a great chorus of free souls. There is a dark side to it, though, continuing to read from the article. Ultimately, as a species, we have no escape from this and in fact, no amount of struggle is going to dislodge them. For whatever reason, I think we have been left to the exploiters and the scum. Who knows? Maybe the good guys gave up or lost a war, maybe those of us who got good treatment were simply being deceived.
Speaker 1:In more recent years, however, striper became increasingly preoccupied with what he is referred to as the dark side of the alien experience. This preoccupation has colored his writings to a disturbing degree and at times, his morbid fascination with the darker undercurrents of spiritual experience seems to border on obsession, spiritual experience. I thought they were aliens from outer space. Striper hinted at this dark side from the very beginning. His original title for communion was body terror, but his general take on it was that whatever darkness or negativity he encountered, it was sourced in his own fears of the unknown. And over time, however, he began to present a more traditional picture of evil and consequently, perhaps unconsciously, to return to his roots as a horror writer. Some of them were not like the woman I met in her staff. Some of them qualify as what we would call monsters in every sense of that word.
Speaker 1:What is happening now is absolutely terrifying, so much so that I have kept it to myself in hopes that I was wrong or that it would change. Two years later, in 2003, he had this to say I'm a realist, and what is now real is that the only thing that appears to be left of the contact experience is the dark side. So that's what we have to face now. In any case, the experience I had and what happens now seems to me to be very different, almost as if somebody good has left and somebody surpassingly evil has remained here. There are beings here who are hostile to one another and some who hate us with a passion so great that it would be considered psychotic if it was displayed by a human being. There are some in a very complex and parasitical relationship with our minds, and some of these seem to me to be close enough to the human to suggest that they are hybrids of some kind. I believe that this presence is what keeps us trapped here on earth, what prevents mankind from becoming a cosmic being and what has been maneuvering us toward the earliest possible extinction, being so profoundly evil that is almost beyond imagination. So look at this experience. All right, I'm not going to comment on it yet I think you can get the picture here. For a moment I'm going to bring one more situation. This is quoting from Wikipedia.
Speaker 1:Elizabeth Claire she was born in July 1, 1910 and died on February 9, 1994, was a South African woman who, starting in 1956, publicly claimed to have been contacted by aliens multiple times between 1954 and 1963. Her first visitation supposedly occurred when she was seven and she was one of the first women to claim a sexual relationship with this extraterrestrial. She promoted an ideal of a better world and beliefs in cosmic consciousness, again similar to what Scriber is saying In her book Beyond the Light Barrier. She strived to convey a message of peace, love, understanding and environmentalism, which she credited to the superior wisdom of an advanced and immaculately utopian Venusian civilization. She promoted conspiracy theories of an international cover-up that kept vital information from the public and claimed to have been threatened with abduction to press her into revealing details about alien technology. Again, that's known what the last part is not a conspiracy theory. That's the truth. Information has been hid. It's slowly leaking out now, for some reason, all part of the devil's program.
Speaker 1:As we examine these stories of alien abduction, we cannot comment if they're real or not. They may not be real, but to these people they're real. And there's thousands of stories, hundreds of thousands of stories. What's fascinating about all of these stories is that these beings quote unquote aliens have a message, as we talked about before, that gods of history appeared in these same forms to the ancient peoples and they created elaborate Stories of gods. And these stories all begin to line up. They're not. I don't believe that they're fake. I believe that they're Real stories with a twist. But these aliens, or these gods or these demons are appearing, bringing a message to people.
Speaker 1:Let's take their testimony at face value first. You see that these aliens come, they experience experience gripping, fear, paralization. Their minds become almost blank at some point. Memory gets fuzzy. There's stories of people being carried through the air like a form of levitation by these aliens, their stories of being probed and examined. There's stories of Waking up in different places, being being Driving down the road and the next thing you know you're in some other place and that you have strange nightmares, and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1:Those who have Repeated alien interactions speak of somehow summoning the aliens. Striper speaks of that, I believe Claire speaks of that. They summoned the aliens. The aliens would then almost appear in their room without of nowhere, not as though that they came from some spacecraft, but that they just appeared Then. The result of ongoing discussion that they have with these aliens results in a spiritual message of United consciousness, environmentalism, peace, love it's always producing, saying there's gonna be a new age, that either the aliens are gonna take us into you or that they're Trying to prevent us from going into. They're coming to take us into a new stage of human evolution Wherein we can achieve a greater stage of consciousness and abilities, like the aliens have my now I want to read to you the conclusion that talking Tucker Carlson has reached from his interviews with former government officials that were directly involved in researching UAPs.
Speaker 1:This is from the free citizen press. The second comment from Carlson that caught my eye came in the same interview when he declared that he believes that what people believe Are UFO and alien sightings are actually signs we are being invaded by a malevolent spiritual force and that there's good reason to believe that the US government is actually working in partnership with that malevolent spiritual force. So, quoting Tucker, it's my personal belief, based upon a fair amount of evidence. They're not aliens. They've always been here and I do think it's spiritual. That's my view and again, it's not provable, but based on the evidence. If the US government has in fact had contact, direct contact, with these beings, whatever they are I've already told you what I think they are and has entered into some sort of agreement with them, which is the claim of informed people, it's very, very, very heavy thing. All right end quote.
Speaker 1:The evidence is very strong, from everything that we've examined, that these are Interdimensional phenomenon. They're not coming from outer space, they're here. They come from the atmosphere of earth, from the sea. They appear in our immediate atmosphere. They travel at speed and turn at speeds that are impossible for any type of craft that is bound by physical Rules of this planet. They appear and they just disappear at will. And Then we combine that with the alien abduction stories. They line up perfectly with supernatural experiences of a Dark nature. They can have a good attached to them anytime the devil works. He tries to work first through a Something that would seem good to the flesh, then that turns around into being something evil.
Speaker 1:But anyways, these, these, nevertheless these supernatural experiences of an even nature, they line up Exactly with what the Bible calls familiar spirits. Leviticus 20, verse 27 a man also, or a woman at the familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death. Death, they shall stone them with stones. Their blood shall be upon them. I'm not reading that to advocate for murdering these people, but I'm reading that to start this picture that there is such a thing as a familiar spirit. For Samuel 28, 7.
Speaker 1:And they summon these familiar spirits. Think about the story of Saul. Saul went to a woman that had a familiar spirit and she said I pray thee divine, unto me by the familiar spirit and bring me him up, whom I shall name under thee. Bring salt. He brings Samuel up. So they, they summon there's a, there's a, there's a summoning of the demon spirit. In this case there was a different phenomenon, and and, and and Samuel came up. But usually it's a demon spirit purporting to be, have contact With the dead relative or or or whatever. It is trying to get the information. Leviticus 26 and the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits and after wizards to go whoring after them. I will even set my face against that soul and will cut him off from among his people.
Speaker 1:Now, in the past, false religious format was that they were summoning the spirits of the dead. Now, the modern false religion that is atheism, summons aliens from outer space at some faraway planet and they carry the basis of the same Message. That message is an exaltation to a higher sphere of humanity Through hidden knowledge, was which is. This is basically Gnosticism at the time of the Apostles, but Genesis 3, 1 through 5 Speaks of it. Now, the serpent was more subtlety than any of the beast of the field which the Lord God had made, and he said unto the woman the aeth God said you shall not eat of Every tree of the God garden. And the woman said unto the serpent we may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden. But of the fruit of the trees which is in the midst of the garden, god has said you shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die. And the serpent said unto the woman you shall not surely die, for God doth know, in the day that you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened and you shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. So here you'll be like the God, you'll be like the Elohim, you'll know good and evil. Here is a hidden knowledge that's being Prevented from you getting it. Here it is, and now you'll be like the gods.
Speaker 1:These space aliens are bringing a new age message From outer space, actually from hell, in the form of demons masquerading as aliens. Instead of the spirits of Dead relatives or the, the gods, they produce fears, nightmares, terror, deception. They're angels of light seeking to bring a new revelation to people who are open to spiritual deception. The message I would want to leave with you with is this one day we will be kidnapped by aliens. That is, angels will descend, will be changed in them. Our bodies will be changed in a moment. In the twinkling of an eye, the angels would, will descend and carry us up into heavenly realms. This is the message that they're trying to give to people. It's an anti it's. It's a. It's an opposite of God's message. God's message is what God's message is Follow my word, follow my leadership, be filled with the Holy Ghost and I will change your, I will take you up to another level of being. I will change your vile body to be liken unto Jesus glorified body and it will be, literally be, a higher level of being. But we don't get it by, by receiving it From aliens. We receive it from the word of God, the Bible and and walking with Christ. But these Angels we are, we will be these. These flying saucers will supernaturally come down and take us, who have our bodies changed, will take us To the heavenly realms. Just as Elijah was carried on spacecraft, a Fiery chariot, into into the heavenlies, we will be carried by these flying saucers into another realm.
Speaker 1:And there certainly are UFOs that appear that are most certainly investigative angels. They just appear, investigate what's happening and disappear. And this, the shape that they take, are quite similar to what we find in the Bible for angels and no doubt, if you look, if you look at the scripture, god himself traveled on different, various what we would call Craft. It's not a craft, it's supernatural. It's something supernatural. Angels traveled like that and demons are also traveling like this. They're not physical what they are we we have no idea but they're supernatural.
Speaker 1:The UFOs that appear Also have a dark side to them, similar to what we find in the Bible. It's. It's amazing really when you think about it wheels in the middle of the wheel, etc. But many of these angels with that appear that bring a dark side, obviously our demons. We have no evidence that they're coming from outer space. They're appearing here and these Deep demonic Angels of light are bringing a deception upon the world and it seems that Satan himself is using them to deceive the nations as One of his many tactics of deceit. Those being kidnapped or having alien encounters are clearly in Contact with demonic entities, demonic forces that are seeking to deceive them and to deceive mankind in One of the many ways they take people away from the truth of the word of God. Through the Lord Jesus Christ, I hope that Makes sense to you. I hope this was an interesting podcast. If you have any questions or comments for me or experiences you'd like to share, I sure would appreciate that. May God richly bless you.