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7th Seal Oneness Restored

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What profound secrets lie within the Seventh Seal, and how do they shape our understanding of divine purpose? Join us on a spiritually enriching journey as we explore the awe-inspiring mysteries of the Seventh Seal from the Book of Revelation. Beginning with a heartfelt prayer for transformation, we invoke the powerful imagery of God as the potter and believers as the clay, setting the stage for a deep dive into the roles of angels, the golden altar, incense, and the profound silence accompanying the seal's opening. This episode calls for believers to stay focused on Christ amid the unfolding tribulation events, offering insights into the high priestly symbolism and the prayers of the saints.

Unravel the complexities and interpretations of the Seventh Seal with insights from the Bible and the teachings of the prophet Brother Branham. Discover the threefold unfolding of the Seventh Seal, which takes us from initial understanding, through deep confusion, to eventual clarity. Personal experiences and testimonies amplify the importance of seeking divine revelation and living a godly life. We explore how these prophetic messages tie into the end times and the coming millennium, emphasizing the need for spiritual readiness and openness to God's ongoing revelations.

The final segments of our episode focus on the threefold purpose of God's redemption and the transformative power of preaching the Word. We address misconceptions about the Trinitarian idea and the importance of unity and maturity within the Church. Highlighting the five-fold ministry's role in guiding believers to spiritual maturity, we stress the necessity of continuous revelation and readiness to meet the bridegroom. With heartfelt prayers and reflections, we underscore the importance of humility, spiritual growth, and the vital role of preaching in transforming lives. Tune in for an enlightening exploration of faith, divine purpose, and the profound mysteries of the Seventh Seal.

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For you are the potter, I am the clay. This is what I pray. Change my heart, oh God. Make it ever true, Lord. Make it ever true. Change my heart, oh God, lord. Make it ever true. Change my mind, oh God.

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Hallelujah, lord, thank you for your atmosphere, lord. Thank you, lord. Heavenly Father, we just come before you now, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we thank you for your presence with us, lord. Lord, we thank you for moving by your spirit. You're the sovereign Lord over this church, over our hearts, lord, and we just submit ourselves to your leadership. Lord, pray that you would take your word, lord, and that you would preach it, that you would teach it tonight, lord, that you would write it upon the hearts and on the minds of the believers. Lord, as we come to this atmosphere, we believe that you have a special evening for us tonight, lord to become more like Jesus Christ. And so, lord, we know that this is what the opening of the seventh seal has come to do is make us more like Jesus, a greater reflection, oneness restored. We thank you for that, lord, and we ask once again, Father, let us all step out of the way and we lay aside the cares of this life and the burdens of the day, and, lord, may we fix our eyes upon Christ, the author and the finisher of our faith. Lord, may we lay aside every weight which would entangle us and try to hold us down, lord, and may we strengthen the feeble knees, lord, for it will take your strength flowing through us, lord, to make it in this hour. We look to you, we commit ourselves to you. We ask once again for your anointing to come upon your word, lord, and that you would declare yourself to us tonight In Jesus' name. Amen. God bless you. Saints, we'll go right to the word. I had planned on doing a missions report tonight and maybe I'll do it later, but coming out to such an atmosphere, I felt that it would be too drastic of a change of order to go into a missions report and I want to go right to the word.

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In Revelation, chapter 8, verse 1, and my subject tonight is the seventh seal. Oneness restored and when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour, and so everything was quiet, was silent, was a holy hush. The greatest beings, as we saw this whole picture set, the greatest beings in all of creation were there before the throne and they stood in awe and amazement at the opening of the seventh seal. They knew that at the opening of this seal now the book of redemption is fully unsealed and opened and something spectacular must soon take place, which was even hidden to the very angels of heaven, and at the time that Jesus was on earth it was even hidden from the son. The father only knew it. And now there's a great revelation that's about to take place.

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Then we go to verse two, and I saw the seven angels which stood before God and to them were given seven trumpets. And another angel came and stood at the altar having a golden censer, and there was given unto him much incense that he should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne, and the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, sent it up before God out of the angel's hands, and the angel took the censer and it filled it with fire of the saints. Send it up before God out of the angel's hands, and the angel took the censer and it filled it with fire of the altar and cast it into the earth. And there were voices and thunderings and lightnings and an earthquake. May the Lord add the blessing to the reading of his word. You can be seated. And so we see these angels. They're standing after the opening of the seventh seal and they're standing as though they're in a priestly role there before god to soon blow these trumpets. And remember we spoke before and brother jason has spoke.

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The trumpets always call israel to the feast. They're used of god to bring israel back into their position. When israel returns to the land, they do so under the work of the seven trumpets. The trumpets sound through the age. However, they're revealed by the two witnesses during the tribulation period. So just as the seals come to us as a revelation at the end of the age though they happen throughout the age and the events even go after the opening of that seventh seal so will the trumpets have the same effect upon the 144,000 through those two witnesses.

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But before that can happen, before that revelation can happen during the tribulation period, another angel comes forward. Another angel comes forward and is given incense to burn with the prayers of the saints. So he's coming into the area where there's a golden altar, right where what else is? In the area of the golden altar, Seven golden candlesticks. So who walks in the midst of seven golden candlesticks other than the Lord Jesus Christ? One like unto the Son of man. And so then we have this high priestly position entering into that.

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There's many details to this that I don't want to get bogged downged down. If anybody has questions, you're always welcome to get in touch with me, but I just want to go quickly over this because it's it's not the main point. So this angel entering into this high priestly position, now, he comes not by the mercy seat. The the mercy seat issue has already been dealt with in previous chapters in the book of Revelation. Now here he stands, not in the most holy place in heaven, but in the holy place to offer incense and the incense notice he's going to offer, given unto him much incense that he should offer it with the prayers of all the saints. So the prayers of all the saints is a smoke from the altar and the incense is also causing a smoke from the altar. It's not the same. There's a distinction, right. And so we understand.

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If we look in the Old Testament, god, when God was angry with the children of Israel, god spoke to Moses and said Aaron, take a censer and burn incense among the people to act as an atonement for them, you think? Well, without the shedding of blood there's no remission. Absolutely, that's right's right. And of course, when we look at anything in the book of revelation, we have to understand it in the context of the blood of the lord jesus christ. And yet we have different types throughout the old testament. And here we see enacting another type before us, that at the opening of the seventh seal there's an incense atonement which is a further application of the blood of Christ upon the bride for us in this hour.

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And so again, it cannot be a part from the blood of Jesus Christ. If there is going to be any kind of offering made, we understand that it is connected from the blood of Jesus Christ. If there is going to be any kind of offering made, we understand that it is connected to the blood of Jesus Christ, and okay. So when we see the smoke of the incense, we understand it represents the worthiness, the merit, merits, the righteousness of Jesus Christ through his very blood which was shed for us. He is our righteousness and he lived the righteous life for us. This altar then, of course, would have been cleansed by the blood.

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But yet there had to come a time of incense being burnt, and it's not. The incense is not our works, the incense is not the work of the seven angels. The incense is the work of Christ in our place, his perfect righteousness. That's what makes our prayers acceptable to God. So when the smoke of our prayers rises up and the smoke of the incense rises up, they become one. So there's a oneness between the work of Christ and the bride of Christ, the prayers of the saints.

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That happens under the seventh seal, and so you can't separate now the work of Christ and the work of the bride, because when you look at this atonement that's made for us by the incense, we understand that the atonement is activating something for the prayers of the saints. It's a restoration back to what God intended for us in John 14, 12. The works that I do shall he do also. This is only restored in part under the man age, under the Pentecostal message. They only have a part of it. The full Pentecostal blessing is not restored until the fullness of the word is restored to us through the seventh church age messenger. And so we have then the incense combining with the prayers of the saints. This is your greatest work, this is your greatest accomplishment, is your prayers, and god does more through your prayers. And when you realize that the smoke of the incense of your prayers is actually literally one with the atoning work of Christ, that actually his very atoning work is applicable right in the midst of your prayer, that we understand that the scripture tells us that, that the spirit we don't know what we pray as we ought, but the spirit, with groanings which cannot be uttered, he pray, he intercedes through. So when you can understand that the work of Christ is by the fullness of the Holy Spirit in the bride, interceding through the bride of Jesus Christ, now you're catching the revelation of the seventh seal and we can never get apart from this oneness.

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The seventh seal is revealed in every type. That's in the Bible. The prophet said that we understand it's a threefold unfolding. I don't know how to say that properly, but it's a threefold unfolding under the seventh seal. Brother Branham said one unfolded when they were speaking about the sixth seal. Remember he spoke about.

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All seven seals are in Revelation, chapter 24. Six of them have all information. He says the seventh is left off. The angels didn't know, the son didn't know himself. All right, that's the first one. The second one came during the preaching of the seventh seal and he says that's the seven thunders that also won't be known. He says till the end time. It's connected together. He makes that point again and again. The last one comes in an unknown language. He says the end time seal starts when the end time seal starts. It will be a total secret, but, but I love that. But it will be revealed by the messenger of Revelation 10, 7. So again, one no man knows the day or the hour. Two seven thunders. Three, it's an unknown language. He says the seventh seal is the end of all things. Ushers in the millennium. Seven thunders will not be known until that time. It now. He even said it's connected to the third pole and that it will not be thoroughly explained but it will be revealed by the seventh angel. Once again I I'm repeating that and so I'm just going to pause going forward and feel to share my own testimony and journey regarding the seventh seal.

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When I first came to the message I didn't know any of y'all even existed. I was up in Minneapolis. Somebody gave me a Church Ages book. I started feeding on the message, step by step. The Lord led me to the truth. I'm reading, I'm studying, I'm looking at the seals, I'm looking at the Church Ages book, I'm searching and one brother comes to me and says so what do you think the seven thunders are? And I said well, that's all I said.

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I believe what brother Branham said is that accomplishes the restoration of the original faith and that under the under, you know, they reveal, they're revealing what the seven seals are all about and that on on the book, in the book, is things that are revealed like uh, this is just where I was at at the things like who is this Melchizedek, and marriage and divorce, and those things are in the mysterious book. This is what my understanding is. Oh man, you really missed it, you really messed up. Didn't you read the seventh seal? It's not revealed. We don't know what the seventh seal is. I'm like, oh man, this is an elder and he's been in the message for almost as long, longer than I've been alive. I must be in confusion.

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And I was sent into 12 years of total and utter confusion. And I begin to study what Raymond Jackson said about it. Oh, only six seals, seven seals not revealed, not even open. Then I read what another brother overseas said it's oh no, the seven seals were broken back in 96 AD and the seven thunders are coming. In the future There'll be seven men that will come and speak rapturing faith to the bride. And then I asked Brother Lonnie what was his understanding. It seemed to line up with my first understanding, but I kept coming across quotes that what about this, what about that? And I was just confused, total confusion.

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I believe my first understanding revelation was right, but I went through a cloud of misunderstanding for 12 years and I was literally on the missions field, looking at these Persian brothers and saying, lord, I have no idea. You know, I've tried to study this and I've literally given up. Would you please help me understand this, because these brothers need it's in the message, it's for us to understand and there's an explanation. And these brothers need it because it's really important part of the message that the prophet speaks about over and over again. And I'm the missionary here that's confused and sitting in a taxi cab.

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The lord said what order does that happen in? He said the mighty angel descends with an open book, seven thunders under their voices and the seventh church age messenger finishes the mystery. Yes, and then immediately it was all. The scales fell off my eyes. Then I could go back to study the message, and I saw it everywhere, everywhere that I went. So thank God that that became an anchor in my heart that no devil in hell can pull it away from me. I believe it has to be for every one of us. I can explain it to you, I can speak it to you, but it comes in unknown tongues and it must become a revelation into your heart. And, as Brother Branham said, don't try to be fanatical, make up some strange doctrines, but live a godly Christian life. He emphasized that over and over again. Amen, and I believe that's the unknown, the manifestation of the unknown tongue is your life manifesting the oneness of christ and the bride. And so again, you, you look and you'll see, and the the, the things that became a confusion to me in the future home.

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He says we have six seals were revealed out there. Oh my, what's going on? Here, though, there's 27 pages of quotes about seven seals being revealed. You have these different places and and even in the seventh seal itself. You see, we have the completion now of six seals and we know the seventh can't be broke to the public. And you see these different things, and we understand when he said, when he spoke about six seals in Matthew 24, the seventh was left off right. So does that mean that's all there is to it, it's finished, it's over with? Well, that's what people thought.

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He says in questions and answers number four have the seven thunders, which equals seven mysteries, already been revealed? Were they revealed in the seven seals but are yet not known to us as the thunders? Yet no, they were revealed in the seven seals. That's what the thunders was about, seven thunders that had uttered their voices and no one could make out what it was. John knew what it was, but he was forbidden to write it. He said but the seventh angel in the days of his sounding. Listen to this.

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This is Brother Branham's interpretation or synopsis of Revelation 10, 7. And we'll comment on it. This is his synopsis. He says but the seventh angel in the days of his sounding, the seven mysteries of the seven thunders would be revealed. So whatever the seven thunders spoke have already been revealed by the seventh church age messenger, and so connect it together. In the days of the voice of the seventh angel, what does it say when he's about to sound? The mystery of God should be finished as it was revealed to his servants, the prophets. But Brother Branham finishes the verse with the seven mysteries of the seven thunders would be revealed. So what is the mystery of God? The seven mysteries of the seven thunders would be revealed. That which was hidden. John knew it. He was forbidden to write it, but it was a hidden mystery. It's then revealed and finished in the days of the voice of the seventh messenger and it's significant that it says as it was revealed to his servants, the prophets.

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Brother Branham says it can't be a new Bible, it can't be some new revelation. It's what's already written in the word. It's been hidden and sealed away from the church because they've fallen away from the original faith. But now it's broken open and revealed and restored back to the bride, of course, in the Church Ages book. Some people like to dismiss the Church Ages book. I'm not one of them. It says the same thing, just in a more detailed way. People say well, brother brandon never said this in uh, in his sermons he said this this is the details. This is the breakdown. I just read it to you all. Right in chapter nine.

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Now this messenger of malachi 4 and revelation 10 7 is going to do two things. One, according to malachi 4, he will turn the hearts of the children to the fathers. Two, he will reveal the mysteries of the seven thunders in revelation 10, which are the revelations contained in the seven seals. It will be these divinely revealed mystery truths that literally turn the hearts of the children to the pentecostal fathers. Exactly so. So the seven thunders are restoring us back to the original faith, the opening of the seven seals there, though, that's. That's the revelation that comes to us. But then there's a book that comes down from heaven, and there's mysteries contained in the book, and seven thunders utter those mysteries to the prophet of god. We don't. We don't literally hear seven thunders utter those mysteries to the prophet of God. We don't literally hear seven thunders speak. The prophet hears the seven thunders speak. The prophet, hearing those seven thunders speak, then communicates the revelation to the people.

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But do you realize that Revelation 10 doesn't end at verse 7? Because the goal of the finishing of the mystery was the taking of the book, and it's actually, if you realize it, it's for the bride body as a whole. But each one of us, as individuals, must enter into the experience of the taking of the book, you, you. You can't just say, oh great, the prophecy is fulfilled. No, you have to take the book, you have to eat it and have the experience and say, my, it's sweet. Then it has to get into your stomach and say, whoa, okay, I got some changing to do, I got some transformation to do. This is bitter on my belly because I got god's got some work to do. But then it even doesn't finish there because we realize the bride then actually is the final voice to the final age under their messenger, when they catch, get the revelation of what the prophet said is we're not called to be parrots, but we're called to communicate the revelation. It's different. You can be a parrot.

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You could say word by word what brother brandham said and not say what he meant and and it it's. It's way beyond mere understanding and parsing out of english language. But it's supernatural revelation that has to come to the bride and we understand that it's a season, right, since it's the days of the Son of man. It's not the instant of the Son of man, if you can really realize it. When Brother Branham says the seventh is left off, we understand the seventh is actually a person, if you really can grasp it. The seventh is a person descending from heaven with an open book to reveal it to you and actually to to give it to you to eat. And then the next thing that you must do is you must speak the word that's already been spoken.

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It's not enough to just press play. Every one of us should press play because we must feed on the message of the hour, we must feed on the tapes, the MP3s, and this because in the ages past, we understand what's the devil done? He says, oh, that's only for the ministers. The word is only for the ministers and the people that they don't need that. No, we all need it, because it's an accountability to the word for all of us, each one of you can't just sit there and say, oh, I just take in what the anointed preacher says. You have have to study, you have to seek, you have to eat.

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Part of eating is hearing the word, but not the only part. You've got to assimilate it for yourself. You could sit and listen to me preach and listen to Brother Jason preach and not understand a single word. Judas had the best pastor in the whole world and he didn't turn out well. That wasn't the pastor's fault, that was the man's fault, and that's your fault If you don't take what Brother Jason is preaching to us and feed on it and understand it. You just come to church. Well, it's an experience. Oh, come on, the word of life is being given to you. Write it down, study it, look at it, refer back to it, feed on it so that you really understand it, because this is where the rapturing faith comes from.

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Revelation 10, 8 through 11 is talking about rapturing faith, and it's not an. It's even not enough just to eat it. You have to speak it, you'll have to prophesy again. Now you're not bringing your own prophecy. You're not bringing your own version of prophecy. You're bringing what's already been spoken by the seventh church age messenger, because even he is is bringing what the prophets have already revealed. And so the point is getting the word from the hand of the angel, which is Christ, the Son of man that's come down to reveal himself, the Lord that has descended from heaven with the message. It's not hyperbole. He's come down in a different way today than he's ever been with the church, because he's come in fullness. All through the ages it was in part. Even in the first stage the purpose was to bring the fullness to the bride, but before they could get to it they fell away. And so now, then, ephesians 4 can truly and fully come into effect.

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I want to look at a very commonly quoted portion of Christ is the mystery of God revealed Again? I believe connecting this together with the last two quotes I read is very critical, because then you begin to see further what the mystery of God is and a further unfolding of the oneness that I spoke about already. How much oneness can we get? In the seventh seal? We've got the incense, which is the atonement of Christ, coming together with the smoke of the prayers of the saints. Then we've got Christ coming down with an open book, with the smoke of the prayers of the saints. Then we got Christ coming down with an open book with the revealing of the word. Well, what is the revealing of the word in the open book? It's the revealing of Christ, right, and it's the means. What is it supposed to do? It's not just to stop at the seventh church age. Messenger Angel's descending to get it to you, for you to eat it. Then you become one with the word, then you can speak the word. All right.

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God's great mystery of how? It's a secret. He kept it a secret. Nobody knowed nothing about it, even the angels didn't understand it. See, he didn't reveal it. That's the reason under our seventh mystery, when the seventh seal was opened, there was silence. Why was there silence in heaven? Because it was a mystery. It was unknown. Amen, jesus, when he was on earth, they wanted to know when he would come. He said, even the sun himself don't know when it's going to happen. See, god has this all to himself. It's a secret, and that's the reason there was silence in heaven for a space of a half hour. And seven thunders utter their voices, and John was even forbidden to write it.

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See, the coming of the Lord. That's one thing. He hasn't revealed yet. How he will come, when he will come, it's a good thing he doesn't. No, the quote doesn't finish there. He has showed or revealed it in every type. That's in the Bible. Therefore, the entire Bible is the revelation of God's mystery in Christ. The entire Bible is an expression of one goal that God had, one purpose he wanted to achieve. In the entire Bible and all the acts of the believers in the Bible has been in type and expressing what God's great goal is. And now, in this last day. He has revealed it and shows it. Did you just hear what he said? He said he's revealed it and showed what the coming of the lord is. And, god's help, we'll see it right here this morning, what the lord has in his mind all along and has expressed it. Therefore, you can see the great meaning of what it's been to know this and then to try to bring it to the people. See, and then you don't. I haven't went into details to try to explain it as God has revealed it to me, my. So the title of the message is Christ is the mystery of God revealed.

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Where do we find the terminology the mystery of God? In the Bible, a few places, but one in particular that we've just referred to Revelation 10.7. So the mystery of God should be finished. So when we see that language should be finished, it means that there's coming to be a completion. There's a revelation contained into that. But really, what the prophet's purpose is to do is to bring it to completion, to bring it to a finishing work, because, remember, the angel comes and says time shall be no more. Well, it doesn't mean literally the end of time, because even the millennium has time, right, but it says there will be no longer a delay. A delay to what? The mystery of God being finished Because the mighty angel has come down. All right, and remember, I want to hold my thought there.

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Brother Branham refers to Matthew 24. And he says this is talking about the coming of the Lord and that it's revealed in every type in the Bible and that God has revealed it to us in this day. So we find, then, that which was a secret the angels in heaven didn't even know, is now being revealed. So let's read it matthew 24, 42, uh, 36. But of that day and hour knoweth no man. No, not the angels of heaven, but my father. Only see, it's a secret. There's silence in heaven for the space of half an hour, right, and john was forbidden to write. Don't write about it, don't reveal what it is. It's sealed up. Daniel told us when is it sealed up? Until the time of the end. We'll refer to that again in a few minutes.

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But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. So the coming of the Son of man has been revealed and shown, and every type in the Bible manifests it, and we know it in this day. So the coming of the Son of man. The seven thunders are speaking and revealing that which was secret, hidden to the angels, even to the Son. The seven thunders are revealing the revelation of the Son of man, the coming of the Son of man. This word coming speaks of his personal presence, his very presence, he's, he's.

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What does the prophet say in the rapture message? The lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout. The shout, what is the shout? It's the message going forth first the living bread of life, bringing forth the bride. So the lord has already descended, not a nail scar, but in spirit form. But then, as then we go back to christ, is the mystery of god revealed. What does that sermon tell us? Because the world would say the cup.

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You know, the coming of the lord is. It's going to be a really loud noise, you know, and there's going to be an angel. Come out with a big trumpet and blow this trumpet and then the whole world will, will be raptured. You know like billions of people will be missing from the earth. That that's one interpretation of it and this is the way the world has it, just like in the first coming of Christ.

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They said okay, here's what's going to happen. There's going to be four messianic figures. First there's going to be Elijah, then there's going to be the godly high priest, then there's going to be the Messiah, son of Joseph. He'll be killed. Then there'll be this Messiah, the son of David. They had it all worked out and it was all wrong, completely a million miles away from anything that they ever imagined, ever anticipated.

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And so has the church, by their own interpretations, been blinded to the revealing of the Son of man in this day. They say you think that the mighty angels come down with an open book for you to eat and become one with him in this day? You're literally in a cult, you've lost your mind. They said the same thing to the disciples Look and see, no prophet has arisen from Nazareth. They're referring to scripture and they're literally blind. And it's hidden from the wise and prudent and revealed to babes such as would learn. And so as we see this and as we understand this, then we can begin to put it together as the prophet did.

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What is the threefold purpose of God? So every one of us should have this memorized. If we don't, let's get going on that God revealed in fullness in Christ to accomplish redemption, accomplish Calvary, to shed the blood and to reveal God to us right. What's the second part? God revealed in fullness in the bride in order to restore preeminences. What's the third? In order to restore preeminences. What's the third? Back to Eden. This is the purpose of redemption.

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When we look at the mystery of God, we understand then that this is applicable to his coming and to his purpose through the ages. So what is his ultimate purpose through the ages? It wasn't just to be revealed in a one-body ministry, a one-person ministry. It's not just God revealed in Jesus Christ, he wants to be revealed in a many-membered body. So it's God in Christ, in the church. All that God was, he poured into Christ. All that Christ was, he has poured into the church, and so we can see he's descended in fullness with the complete, restored word to take on a form.

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See the Trinitarian idea of the Godhead. They're going back into eternity and trying to bring reasoning and logic and philosophy into it, and it's totally missing the revelation because it's God's. God is a spirit, he's invisible, but it's not God's purpose to stay in that form. He wants to come into a form that we can understand who he is. He did that perfectly, completely, in jesus christ. But the thing is, every church, every denomination stops right there and they have their own interpretation of that. What's the second person of the godhead? Well, it is, it's, he's his own father.

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See, these interpretations are missing the revelation of the seventh seal. Because the revelation of the seventh seal is showing us now that actually the fullness of God is in the bride, and even further beyond that. We can see by that predestination. Isn't God making a random choice? But it actually is his own seed that he had in himself. And when you come forth, it's your very life. Jesus is that life in fullness manifested you in part. But God's purpose is for that fullness and the part, all the parts, to come together in one under the opening of the seventh seal.

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Why do you think the devil has so attacked the seventh seal with so many false interpretations and misunderstandings and tried to say send the quote-unquote apostles and eighth messengers to say you know it's not revealed, you know it, it's for the future. They're saying oh look, look what God did, then look what God's going to do, and they miss actually what he's doing now. Notice in Hebrews 3.7, the language of Paul, wherefore, as the Holy Ghost saith today, if you will hear his voice. You know he has a voice today. I hope you still love me, but you realize that the voice is not limited to a tape. Certainly on a tape, but if you just put it past tense on a tape you can become guilty of idolatry and miss what christ is doing today. And you are listening to the tape and have it's a, it's a hidden mystery to you of what christ is doing now in the bride, because today he's speaking.

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It's not enough to say, I believe that there was a final messenger, because the final messenger tells you that under the messenger, the bride, there will be a final voice to the final age. And so you know, the devil wants us to think. You know, look at all these problems we have in the message. And we have divisions and we have this God is working, don't miss it. The holy spirit has been revealing things and, just as in the book of acts, we think see things raise up and we think, oh man, where's the unity? And you watch the end result. And god was working in the midst of all of that to bring his bride to maturity. Because maturity never happens in a vacuum, in a place where there's not difficulties and trials, you think, oh my, everything's going to be perfect and the bride will be in total harmony yes, they will with Christ, and God will get us around to one another.

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But first we must be in oneness with Christ, the living word that's been manifested in this hour. And the problem becomes you can do two things. You can either dismiss the word spoken by the prophet and say we have a new message today, which many do, or you can say, oh, my goodness, this prophet's so amazing. I love the prophet. Let's just listen to the prophet and do away with the live voice, because they've messed it all up. They've made so many mistakes. Yes, we've all made mistakes. This is the genius and the glory of God, because we have this treasure in earthen vessels.

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And you know what? God will raise up a minister and he'll preach something and it will agitate all the other ministers and they think first I must get a baseball bat after this brother, but then, if you're humble enough, you'll realize God is speaking something that's going to help you If you'll just humble down. Maybe the brother didn't have it all right. There's probably a chance that that's true, and there's probably a chance that brother didn't have it all right. There's probably a chance that that's true and there's a probably a chance that you don't have it all right too. But god is working in a body ministry to bring varieties of gifts through different types of preaching ministries. That's all for a purpose. Just wait upon the lord before you attack a brother. Wait upon God, because maybe God's speaking through him something that's going to help you and to bring you to a place where you can grow in him.

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I've seen it over the years. I've been offended and frustrated with brothers. And then I begin to study and I said this is the key that unlocks the mystery, and I was mad at the guy because it becomes a misunderstanding. But but that is how god works. We think he works and he's a computer program. God's not a computer and he never has worked like that. None of his prophets were men of perfection outside of the Lord Jesus Christ. All of them had a treasure in earthen vessels.

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We've talked about that when we preach on overcoming depression. We almost could go through every minister in the word and show you their mistakes and their errors and how they thought incorrectly. And you say, my goodness, what is this guy trying to tear down your faith? No, that's how God brings the word. Then how do you think he brings the word now Through ministers that have failings, that have faults? No, I know there's also. The devil has ministers. I get that. I understand that. That's why we have to go back to the word and we hold one another accountable.

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By the preaching of the word you take the message of the hour, you listen to the word, you pray over it, you take it back to the bible, you preach it and you let the revelation go forth to people's hearts and then it penetrates their hearts and works in them, maybe agitates them and makes them mad at the preacher, and then eventually they'll search and say I was wrong and he was right. Or they oneness external forces through the great preacher, through the great anointed one, through the great, this guy, the eighth messenger, the apostle, the one that's going to fix all Brother Branham's mistakes, the one that's going to whatever they're going to do that these men claim all this nonsense. No, it's going to be a revelation and it's going to be a body ministry. It's not going to be a one-man ministry. That time is over with. We have no scriptural precedence to say okay, now that once the word is restored, we got another one-man ministry. We understand, when the word is restored, that it becomes the five-fold ministry, can now enter into the purpose that God has for that ministry, and it's a ministry of what Reconciliation he's given to us the word of reconciliation.

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The word of reconciliation isn't just on a tape. It's on a tape and it isn't just in the Bible, but it must come from those sources through a spoken voice. Today, if you hear his voice, harden not your hearts. The absolute is the bible and absolute, pointing to the, the absolute and absolute preached by brother branham, pointing to the absolute which is the bible, jesus christ. And so our preaching is based upon this, and every one of us, we have to go back to the Word and you have to check and say was that what Brother JD said right? I find that in the Scriptures, because that's where growth is going to come. And so we, the ministry of the word, praise you Literally.

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The preaching of the word is to beg you in Christ's place. Hey, be reconciled to God, come into oneness with God. What's the ministry of the word today? Come into oneness with the fullness of the word in this hour. And again, romans 10 shows us how will they call on him if they have not believed? And how shall they believe if they haven't heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? And how will they preach unless they're sent? So you see this trickle down that takes place.

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When I look at oneness, it's, it's not a. It's not a, it's it's. It's not a oneness of equal rights, right, it's a oneness of headship. If you find in christ is the mystery of god revealed. Brother brennan repeats over and over again about headship coming down, headship being restored. It's a descent right and it's coming down through a ministry right. 2 Corinthians 3, 5, and 6,.

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Paul says it's not that we're sufficient of ourselves to think anything as of ourselves, but our sufficiency is of God, who's also made us able ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the spirit, for the letter kills but the spirit gives life. In the Old Testament, the ministry of the letter could only bring death because no one can fulfill the letter of the law. It kills you because you're born in sin, shaped in iniquity, you. No one seeks god, there's none. That's good. But the new covenant comes and says I'll, I'll not make an, I'll not make the old covenant, I'll not rewarm that over, I'll make a new one for you. The other one becomes obsolete. What's the new one? I'm going to take my spirit, I'm going to put it inside you and I'm going to write my word in your heart and in your mind. And so this actually is the ministry of the preaching of the word Right.

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When a true God-sent minister is preaching the word and again I want to I want to point this out how is overseership of the church to come? By feeding the flock of god, not taking lordship over the flock. It's not being the boss brother brandon says me and brother neville are not bosses. No, it's the preaching of the word that feeds the bride. That's where the overseer ship comes. It's not in controlling your life, telling you what car to buy and what vacation you can and can't go on. It's to teach you how to know to follow the leadership of the Holy Ghost and it's to bring you to a place where you're equipped to do what you're supposed to do. Men are equipped, then, to lead their families. Not that the pastor enters into the family and leads the family, but that equips the husband to be a leader in the home. This is God's purpose for the fivefold ministry. It's for the equipping of the saints, all right.

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So then, verse seven. But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious so that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance, I want you to, I want to, I want to. You can take that down now, at the beginning of 2 Corinthians 3, what does Paul say? I don't need a letter of recommendation from some group of ministers from Jerusalem. Actually, you're my letter of recommendation, because what I've preached to you has been written on your heart by the Spirit. Now your life is manifesting, my very letter of recommendation. So when he says you are an epistle, read and known of all men, you're the written, you're the preached word, manifested, right.

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And so then, when we come to this, if the ministry of death under the Ten Commandments was glorious, right, so that the people, they couldn't even look at Moses, how much more glorious is the ministry of the Spirit. The new covenant is the ministry of the Spirit, and Paul puts himself directly in there, the five-fold ministry, as the ministers of that new covenant in the Spirit. So then, how necessary it is for the preaching of the word. And what does he say? We all, as in a mirror, behold the glory of the Lord face to face, right, and we're changed in what? From glory to glory. So put it all together the ministry of the spirit. Through the preaching of the of of the seventh seal, through the preaching of the opening of the word in this hour. Then what does it do? You're actually literally looking at the Lord, jesus Christ, in the mirror, hallelujah, and that image, then, of the word is changing you from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. Now, that's what it's saying when it says where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. It's not talking about a Pentecostal church. It's talking about the ministry of the Word going forth to your heart and bringing the transforming power, so that you're literally looking at Jesus Christ and being changed into His image.

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Ephesians 4, and we'll start at verse 8. Wherefore he saith. When he ascended up on high, he led captivity, captive and gave gifts unto men. Now that he ascended, what is it? But that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth. He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things, and he gave some Gave, some, wow. So Jesus ascended and gave gifts to men. So he ascended up right to intercede for the church.

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Right, and we know, we saw the seventh seal. That intercession takes a different form, takes a different shape. Right, you might be puzzled by that, but it absolutely does, because the smoke of the incense now is rising up to become one with the prayers of the saints. And we find in Daniel, chapter 12, when that mystery, the sealed book, becomes opened. When does it become open? At the time of the end, it says what does it say about the wise? It says the wise will. It says what does it say about the wise? It says the wise will understand. But what else does it say about the wise? Many will be purified and made white.

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See, I thought that happened at Calvary, the price was paid at Calvary, but it had to come to the opening of the seventh seal, where that atonement is made and that the fullness of what Christ paid for comes into the bride, so that there's a oneness. But remember, this is a descending oneness and it's a oneness of headship, and that headship is directly to the body, because every one of the five-fold ministry it's part of the body. But remember even the apostle. When he speaks of the gifts in the body, he says he firstly apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers. So we see that there's an order to the word again that doesn't make them lords over god's heritage, but that makes them the means of fulfilling the purpose of the ascension of christ, because the gifts it's we can call it ascension gifts. So he ascended up high and he gave gifts on demand. What gifts did he give? Apostles? Go back, go to verse 11. He gave some apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers.

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So his work of intercession for the church when it comes to the fullness of the word in the end time, when the seventh seal is open, his work of intercession then is what is it through? It's through the five-fold ministry. How, the preaching of the word. It's not you don't come to us for the forgiveness of sins. This is nonsense. But at the same time you understand forgiveness of sins comes by the preaching of the word. When you hear the word with faith, sins become forgiven. The source is not the man, the source is christ. So then we can understand here that the feeding, the feeding of the flock, then takes on a different shape and form when you realize that it's actually christ, the chief shepherd, who's feeding the flock, and when we can understand it, that that intercessory work and that, and that ministry of headship is not the man Right, because the purpose is not control, the purpose is not personal lordship of the pastor or the apostle or the prophet, it's not personal lordship over you, but it's feeding.

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And then we'll look at what it says next, verse 12, for the perfecting of the saints. We've said this many times Perfecting is not the same word that we find in another place, where it says in the next verse unto a perfect man Perfect, most places comes from the Greek word telios. This is a different word. This word means the equipping of the saints. But when you understand that, if you look at the word equipping, it's used in military jargon. If you look at the word equipping, it's used in military jargon. And so when the people or the leader or the king would go to give the equipment to the military, he gives their clothing, their shoes, their weapons, their defensive weapons, all those things.

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And so the purpose of the five-fold ministry then is to equip the saints, is to dress the saints with the word, so that the saints then eat the book right, and then they know what to do with the book. They prophesy again, they take what's spoken and then they speak it all right. And so you can understand. Then, if we look, if we look further and deeper, we understand that men are to lead their homes. God said, said, I'll reveal the mysteries to Abraham, I'll reveal my secrets to Abraham, because I know he'll teach and command his family after him Right. And so this is an essential thing. You know, fathers, the Bible says that fathers must raise their children. It says fathers, provoke not your children to wrath, but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. The word nurture literally means the teaching Bring them up in the teaching, or education and admonition speaks of direct application in action through discipline and rebuke. And of course we spoke before.

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A mother is following the vision of the father, so the man is the one that's charged with taking dominion. So the first order of dominion is the family. And so mother then is to come under the headship of her husband. And so you see, many of these churches become so perverted because the preacher and the five-fold ministry wants to come in between this process. Then what ends up happening is the preacher then subverts the husband, so then the husband flips places and he's led by his wife, who's led by the pastor, and it becomes a perversion of the word because the man, then he's lost his authority and usually what happens is is to equip the men to teach and to admonish correct discipline. Their family and mother then enters into the vision because she's the helper of this vision and mission. And so when we go back to Ephesians 4, we see then that the five-fold ministry is to equip the saints for the work of the ministry. So it's equipping father, mother and also the children.

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But we understand that the primary teacher of the home has to be the father. You know, I'm all in favor of youth ministry, I'm all in favor of Sunday school, I'm all in favor of youth camp, but I'm not in favor of that in place of the father leading the home. It would be better if we had none of all that other stuff and fathers leading the home than all all of that with fathers saying, oh, the church takes care of my kids, you'll wind up in trouble. I promise you that the primary influence of children are not to be their peer group, it's mom and dad. The primary teachers of the children must be dad with a vision and a mission, mom, entering into that vision and mission and teaching the children all right for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry. That's why I say the headship of christ is flowing down into the ministry of the word, into the fathers, into the mothers and into the children, or the, the mothers and into the children, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying or the building up of the body of Christ.

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Again, this is a prophecy. This is an end time prophecy. This is the purpose, the goal of what God is doing for the church and I promise you, as they try to say in Jeffersonville, god's not abandoning this purpose. He's not saying you know what I messed up, so I'm just going to give you tapes to listen to. He said I'm giving you tapes but I'm sending the five-fold ministry to bring the revelation. Because the prophet himself said I pray that these men that come after me will take what I said and make more sense to it, that they could bring it to a place where it comes to life.

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And so I don't believe the prophet was wrong when he said that, because it's squarely right here in the scripture that we're reading it and God has spoken, that he's going to do it and there's nothing that's going to stop what the word says here. There's no amount of devils in hell and anointed false teachers that are going to come in and destroy the work of God that he's doing through the five-fold ministry into the bride. You see why the imbalance that the devil is trying to put on people and bring a confusion. Oh, we have to go after tapes because the preachers are all messed up. No, no, we've got to get rid of the tapes because we just have anointed preachers to preach new things. Now You've got to walk in the middle of the road.

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The revealing of the word came through those tapes, but they're not meant to stay there. They're meant to be preached and we're to plumb the depths of what has been spoken by taking it back to the word, not bringing our own revelation, but bringing the revelation that the Holy Spirit brings through the message. So he attacks the five-fold ministry. He tries to turn them into lords over God's heritage, on one hand, and he tries to say they're not necessary, we have tapes, on the other hand. Then he tries to say well, the seventh seal I mean, nobody can really understand it the guy that led me to the message. That's the very thing he left the message for. He said I couldn't understand what Brother Branham said in the seventh seal. I don't even think Brother Branham understood what he was trying to say about the seventh seal and I said well, I don't know about that, I may not understand it, but I believe that there's an understanding out there and I'm waiting on the Lord to help me with that. Amen. And I think that's anything that Brother Branham preaches. Just wait upon the Lord. If you don't understand it, he'll make it known. So it's a prophecy of this five-fold ministry, the headship of Christ, the word Amen.

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So when they rejected the opening of the seventh seal, think about it. When they reject the opening of the seventh seal, it goes from the old bloody lamb right to the word, and the word only the prophet says, says so. The application of the blood then is only in the revealing of those seven seals, which is the message of the hour. So the application of the atonement then we realize, is coming by the preaching of the word. It's the washing of water by the word, and this is the prophecy of that.

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Verse 13 says till we all come in the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the son of god unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of christ. That's what's. That's what you're experiencing in this hour, if you're truly baptized with the Holy Ghost and walking in the revelation of the word. This is what you're going through. This is what God is doing. You say what about Stop? Stop? Do you believe the word or no? Perfect faith takes the word beside, regardless of the circumstance that he sees around him or what interpretation other people are bringing to the word around him. He just sees the word. He says I'll stand by that. God's doing that. We're in the end time.

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The seals have been opened. The five-fold ministry has been sent to preach the fullness of the word. They have a treasure in earthen vessels, so do I? God's doing this. He's bringing me to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine by the slight of man and cunning craftiness whereby they lie in wait to deceive, but speaking the truth in love may grow up into him in all things. That's a mouthful unto the edifying of itself in love. So again, this is the purpose of the five-fold ministry. It's to equip you to come to the, to a perfect man, to the measure of the statual fullness of Christ, to bring you to the place where all these doctrines are flowing out. And you just say I know the revelation of the word because it's living inside of me.

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This one might say that, this one might say that, but I'm gonna keep walking with God in the revelation of the word. But then, more than that, he's got something for you to do, because every single joint, every single measure of the body must be there with the effectual working of the holy spirit in it. To do what? To increase the body. So again, that's why we say why is it a body ministry? Why is he saying it's a body ministry? Because the body is the purpose of the body is the edifying of itself in love. So the five-fold ministry comes to bring the word and the end goal is full maturity, full maturity of Christ, full maturity of Christ, so that we see that then Revelation 10, 7 and 8 through 11 come to full fruition in your life, in your walk, and then in that walk the body is growing and is being built up and being strengthened. Amen, alright, I'm going to close. There is growing and is being built up and being strengthened. Amen, all right, I'm going to close there. Let's everybody gather forward and actually stay there. Let's have I'm jumping the gun let's have our musicians come and minister to us and then we'll sing a little bit and pray and then we'll bring you forward.

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So as we, as we understand and look at this headship flowing down, it's a restoration of headship, right? So when we see the restoration of headship, it's the restoration of the word and coming. Why do you, why do you think everybody's got their own interpretation of the channel that the word is going to come through and everybody's arguing and fighting. And we have this great movement going around the world saying no, no, we got it, we got our own channel, we don't want the that the word is going to come through and everybody's arguing and fighting. And we have this great movement going around the world saying no, no, we got our own channel. We don't want the Bible channel, we want our own process, we want our own place. And it's trying to bring a forced unity of everybody around the world and it's trying to resurrect babylon all over again and then to go with that there's a misunderstanding of the very thing that's going to take us home.

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Lord, help us. I'm I'm thankful for eyes to see and ears to hear. Eyes to see and ears to hear. I'm thankful for the revelation of the word that it's today. If you hear his voice, pardon not your hearts. Not just yesterday. He spoke yesterday. We must receive the word of yesterday, but he keeps speaking today and there's more for us to enter into in this hour. Amen, let's pray. Heavenly Father, we thank you so much for your word, lord, we thank you so much for your goodness to us. Father, I pray that you'd take this word that was spoken, lord, and write it upon the hearts. This is.

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I prayed to start the service. I believe that's what you're doing in this hour, lord, to bring the bride to maturity, to the measure of the stature, of the fullness of Christ. Lord, continue to unfold yourself to our hearts. Lord, I pray that you'd move. Move every devil, every lie, every deception out of the way. Lord, may, may we truly enter into the fullness and the line and order of the word Lord in our very homes, our very families, our very life. Lord, we look to you, we ask these things in Jesus name, amen. We look to you. We ask these things in Jesus' name, amen, amen, amen. Now let's gather the bridegroom. I see he that hath an ear to hear the evening time.