Under Pressure

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Chapters

• 0:00 Intro
• 1:18 Checking Pulses
• 18:03 Entertainment News
• 31:38 Reddit Roulette
• 42:54 Magic Mind
• 44:16 Under Pressure
• 1:52:37 Fun & Games
• 2:08:23 Fun Fact
• 2:12:52 Top Listening Areas
• 2:15:12 Outro
• 2:18:04 Fake Ad

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:03

Welcome everyone, coming to you directly from the luxurious OLR Studios, this is Templeton. Where is Las Vegas? This is Sweet Baby Jay. Can I see what you just said written on paper? This is Melina. It is the biggest spider I've ever seen in my life. This is Grizz. After this, I'm going to get off here and I'm going to dragon them balls. This is the Arrogant Yeti. At least I know 2 plus 2 is 5. And this is the FMJ Podcast. Alright, let's go ahead and get this show on the road. We're all here now. Ready to rock and roll! Everybody knows what today's topic is, yeah? Buttholes? Meal plans. Welcome back to another wonderful episode of the FMJ Podcast, where we make all of your wildest fantasies come true. I'm just kidding, we don't do that. Unless... You offer... Grizz a spot on your hockey team. Come on, let's go. And give him one reach around. So we'll go around the room real quick. Get everybody's pulse. Melina will not be joining us for this episode, so hopefully she's doing okay. But we'll start with... You know what? Grizz, we'll start with you, buddy. Since I heard on the street you are looking for a hockey team. Well, here's the thing. I skateboard, but I have not ice skated. Oh, okay. But, if you're willing to take a risk on it, I could probably be a water boy. Let's go. I've seen the movie. I know alligators. They brush their teeth. So, mama said. They got all the teeth and no toothbrush. Yeah, I mean, my pulse is good. I... I'm a little tired. Um, I, I had to work a PM shift yesterday and an AM shift today because of some call outs, but it was worth it because I'm, I'm here today. So let's get it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All and, and, uh, speaking of skateboards, um, I'm not going to show it. I showed it earlier, but I did buy a new skateboard recently. Um, It's like a land yacht type of situation, you know? Like, not a trick board, just a cruiser. And it has a bottle opener on it, so it's pretty sick. Okay, okay. No, you did show it, and it looks pretty dope. Like, I'm kind of jealous that I don't skateboard, so I can't get one like that, you know what I mean? Yeah, you should get one. Where's the picture at? I would hurt myself. I must have missed it. What picture? Hold on. Fuck it. He held it up for the class. He's going to grab it. Oh. Oh, no. Everything went to shit. Everything that went to shit. Man down. Man down. Yo, is that a dildo? Yeah, don't mind that. Hey, stop looking at it. He said, let me kick that under. Not me literally just like giving up on this bit right now. He said, he said, he said. You weren't supposed to see that. He said, not me giving up on this bit right now. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. See, Yeti asked for too much. Where's the picture? I did. We didn't say picture. We said he showed it earlier, and that's why he wasn't going to show it again. But there you go. Oh, that is pretty dope. Yeah, that is a nice. Is that a longboard? No. Your face is a longboard. Oh. Did you miss everything he said? Bazinga. Did you miss everything he said? Yep. What? About his skateboard. Wait. It's got a bottle opener. I had my mic muted that whole time. I thought that was a USB port. Yeah, I was going to say we can't hear you. This? This is a USB port. Yeah. This is where I put the beers. I put the beers in for the USB. And they get charged. All right. It's the United Slurping Beers port. See what happens when you show up late to the show? No, it's not going to go any way you think. I thought maybe there were speakers built into that skateboard. That would be kind of dope, though. No, but it is built out of carbon fiber. Ooh, that's pretty nice. Don't take it underwater. You'll be fine. Oh, here we go. That was the joke. Yeah, that's the joke. Hang on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. It's actually made out of wood. Wait, wait. What kind of wood? Wait. Really, Mom? For the joke. Okay. Is it real strong oak wood? Really hard wood. Anyway, Chris. Just the way God intended it. Just the way God intended it. Glad to hear you're doing swell. Sucks that, you know, work is work, right? Yeah, work be working. Yeah, work be working, but it is what it is. Glad that you were... You were able to join us today because I know you had some stuff you wanted to say about the conversation we're going to have today. Yeah. Moving to Templeton. What's up? What does your pulse look like? I think it's like 98.6. 98.6? Yeah. All right, Lachey. Let's get it. Come on now. 98 degrees? I don't understand. Okay. Does that mean you're doing well or are you kind of stressed? Yes. To both? Yes. You're doing swell while stressed. And Yeti, you are muted. You may want to unmute yourself. Motherfucker. So whatever funny stuff we were trying to say, it just fell on deaf ears. It was pretty much what you said. I said he's doing well because he's stressed. Yeah, he's doing well because he's stressed. Right. Okay, but nothing new? Nothing new, Templeton? I mean, except for a fucking busted-ass phone, which you guys all know about. Yeah, we do know about the busted-ass phone, which is so weird that it just stopped. Yeah, it just broke. Yeah, it just quit on you, which is very strange. To the chat, to the group, to the viewers, do not. It's a Motorola. Fuck, goddammit. Motorola flip phone. Words are hard. They suck. Words are very hard Words are very hard But no, I know you have a You got that flip phone But no, yeah, yeah I've had a Motorola flip phone For like three years And this is the third time It's broken Really? The same phone or different phone? Wait, is it the Razr? Yeah, yeah, yeah Nice So is it the same phone that broke Or is it a different phone? I mean, different phones, but, like, it's always the same thing. Like, where it folds, like, where it folds over, it breaks. See, and that was my concern. Oh, because it's like a screen right there, ain't it? Yeah, it was a screen, and that was my concern. I was like, you know, they look neat, but I feel like practically, like practicality, it's got to break, right, eventually, where it's bending at the screen so many times you open and close it. And Jay is correct. So when Emily switched from Apple to Samsung, she was looking at that phone. And when we were there, the person was like, listen, I've got this phone, and it was the first gen. And he said that the newer gens are a lot better, but this first gen one is terrible. He said he's replaced it like two or three times. Yeah. Like, I didn't drop it. I did not go against anything. I didn't, like... do anything like personally to damage it it just broke yeah that's that's what you're saying is that razor is dull correct that that's a pretty i see what you did there a dull rusty razor yeti you're uh your camera's off but um templeton uh i'm uh what's up i hope you're i hope you're able to get your uh your phone issues uh straightened out i mean I will or I won't. I mean, mostly I will, but it just depends on how much money it's going to cost me. I got you. Oh, I have an idea. Uh-oh. You should get a pager. here we go the best part about that the best part about that is there is a portion of our listeners that's googling right now what is it absolutely we have we have reached the generation that doesn't know what a pager is and has like no idea what dial-up internet is.

UNKNOWN: 9:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 9:49

Isn't that crazy? What is that loopy? Yeah, what is that? Beep, beep. I secretly missed that sound, to be honest. Well, that's why I was serenading. You should bring it back. Yo, Jay, you should throw that into a song. You should open a song with that sound. Oh, my God. Core memories would be blocked. Dude, you have to. I could do it. You have to do it. The name of the song should be like, It's About Time. Or like, you know, I don't know. Throwback or dial-up. Could call it dial-up. Could just call it dial-up. Dial-up. Dial-up or dialed in. Dialed in. Dialed in. What? That's the hook. That's the hook for the song. It's dialed in. Dialed in. Hey, let's fucking go. Got it. Got it. I'm going to write all that down so that way I can. I love tangents. They're so great. Yes, this is great. My brain. But no, Templeton, for sure. Hopefully, you're able to get your phone situation taken care of. What phone are you currently using, Templeton? I got a Motorola Flip Z3. It's a decent phone. Basically, it's a flip phone. Whose phone is that? Motorola.

UNKNOWN: 11:19

Motorola.

SPEAKER_00: 11:20

No, I get that. Like, did you borrow it off of somebody and you got to give it back to them? What is going on? No. No, my guy. You know what? Okay. All right. We're moving on. Yeti. Tell us what your pulse looks like. Okay. I thought his phone broke and he was borrowing a phone. Tell us what your pulse looks like. We got to the bottom of the whole phone thing. Okay. All right. Moving on. Five, five. My brother's playing lotto numbers over here. Grizz had to remove the shades. Like, am I hearing anything? Why are there so many fucking numbers? That's what my pulse is right now. Oh, so hang on. 911, he is stressed. Wait, no shit. He's incredibly stressed. Legitimately scary. But wait a minute. Is that boobless spelled backwards? Five, five, three, what? Seven. Seven. Eight. Eight, zero, zero, eight. Yeah, it's boobless. That's boobless, fellas. I see you. Upside down. Yeah, I see you. That's sell boob. Yeah, sell boob. Sell boob. I sell boob. Just pissed off a whole community. Anyway, what's going on with you? Why are you so stressed, Yeti? I'm busy, dude. I got a lot going on. Getting ready for this little munchkin that's causing Emily a world of problems. Yeah. She had appendicitis a couple weeks ago. Yeah, you were sharing that story. Did we have a podcast? Oh, we did have a podcast. Did we have a podcast that day? We're supposed to. Let's keep down to it. Yeah, the episode that got released today. You were talking about that. Oh. All right, yeah. So we had that happen, and... Now she's having contractions, but they're not strong enough for her to be like in actual labor. So I think they're called the Braxton tractions. Okay. Contractions. So yeah, fun times. Uh, we've got a painter coming tomorrow to paint up the nursery and hopefully we'll get that room squared away this weekend. And then we have to clean the house and get ready for the, the trash bash on July 5th. I was going to say that's literally next weekend. That's a lot, my guy. It's a lot going on, bro. So that's probably why his pulse is like boobless. Super high. Sell boob. Sell boob. Are you coming to that, Templeton? I mean, I don't know. That sounds like a yes. Right. That's a lot of words for yes. Why aren't you sure, bro? Because, like... I'm sorry. Danny's going to be here. Over the week. Yeah. Chris is coming into town for it, too. Just for the weekend. No, so what I heard is he's going to skateboard the whole way. That's right. That's right. Actually, I was going to just grab onto the back of a semi-truck. Yes. And just... I'm just gonna ride that bitch like a kite. Go on my way. I fucked with that. I fucked with that. That's why you got that. They're gonna call me the... Ocean Spray 2.0. That's what I'm going to do. You remember when we had that on TikTok? I know, bro. We had it so simple back then. Right? Now it's like, it's hot and cold. Is she leaving? Is she not leaving? TikTok's banned. Now it's not banned. Now it's banned. Now it's not banned. Is she leaving? Half in, half out anyway, right? So anyway... Life motto. Let's go. I prefer to be half Finn. Right. So, Yeti, it does sound like you got a lot going on. No, we're not even going to entertain that, Chris. Entertain what? Don't encourage him. I don't know what you're talking about. No courage has been encouraged. I'd like to be half Finn. I'd like to be half him. He's just optimistic. You're right. Absolutely. That's what we're going to chalk it up to. Optimism. But yeah, it sounds like you got a lot on your plate. Hopefully everything kind of settles down a little bit. I know it is going to get probably a little bit crazier when the baby shows up. Yeah. So the other thing I have on my plate is I have a... And this one, I'd like to get your guys' input real quick. So... I go on vacation starting next weekend. Yeah. So next Friday or next Thursday will be my last day at work. Yep. Do I use that vacation or do I pocket that vacation for later? You use that shit. Because my brain's like, this is the last week that I will be a free man. It's your last week of sanity. Just enjoy the week you have off. Yeah, I think enjoy it. Take it. Because it's not like you're not going to enjoy what's about to come. It'll just be a different... You'll be busy. You'll be tired. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So get all that Xbox time in. Yep, yep. That's what I was thinking. Play some Assassin's Creed. There you go. I've been telling you that. Hands down, take that week. Enjoy the week. Because you're going to need it. But yeah, hopefully everything does settle down and very much looking forward to the party next weekend. It's going to be epic. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be a good time. What's the footwear? Are we all wearing Dad Force 1s? It's a trash bash. Maybe it's Crocs or sandals. Yeah, like it's going to be bad, bro. Crocs. Crocs. Everyone's coming dressed. Blue Crocs. Blue Crocs. Blue Crocs. Red, white, and blue Crocs. Let's go. Hey, yo. America. Come on now. America Crocs. America Crocs. So, Templeton, are you good? Because I know he was saying. Did we lose him? Yeah, I heard him cussing at his pewter, so. Hopefully, we probably lost him. So, who wants entertainment news? I would like to hear it. Do you want some entertainment news? Okay. So, I heard... that Sony will not be adding first-party games on PlayStation Plus day one, like Xbox Game Pass does. What do you mean by that? So the 15th anniversary of PlayStation Plus will be on the 29th of June, which, as of this recording, is three days from now. And people were expecting them to kind of, since Xbox is going the route they're going, people were kind of expecting, especially for a 15th anniversary, Oh, I see what you're saying. PlayStation Plus. That's interesting. Instead of kind of doing what the fans or players, consumers, want them to do. They're kind of sticking with the business model. So, will that help them or hurt them? In the long run. Is that how they already are conducting business? That's how it's always been. And they said they've seen an uptick in like, I think they said 18%. of people, because they have three tiers, right? Instead of, because I don't think Game Pass has a tier system like No, it's just a one-or-all. Right. So you have your standard, your whatever, and then your premium, which premium is what I have, and you get charged once a year, and you get access to literally everything. So they've seen an 18% increase of PlayStation Plus users going from a lesser tier to the highest tier, or a higher tier. So, I mean... I guess the motto goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But at the same time, is it possible they're missing out on some other players or consumers if they don't add something day one? To quote my boy Loki, an ant has no quarrel with a boot. Ah, yeah. Okay. Fair enough, fair enough. He came to play. You most certainly did. I don't know, because here's my thing, and I thought about this today after I read that, because I was like, Game Pass, yes, is a great thing, especially for Xbox players, right? Especially for those that are like, ooh, Assassin's Creed, day one, release, on Xbox, on Game Pass, I'm going to play it, blah, blah, blah, what have you. Right. Right. Right. They have to be, right? Yes, they have to. How else are they getting paid? How else are they getting paid for these games? My question is this, just like any other streaming service or anything like that, coming from somebody that has music out on Spotify, what have you, in order for an artist to get paid like myself on streams, you've got to get a lot. To put some perspective on it, I've got maybe 500,000 streams as of right now. And you want to take a guess on how much total I've banked so far over the years? No clue. Yeah, I don't even know what a good metric would be. Yeah, I don't know a baseline. Right. So even with 500,000 streams, I've only made, accumulated, like$150,000. Damn. That's it. Wow. And that's 500,000 streams. So if we're going based off of that as a baseline on what a subscription service would pay out at the end of the day, if I'm the developer, how am I getting paid? Because all that's kind of like, behind the scenes, right? That's never really public information, how much a developer or a studio is making based off of how many streams or downloads or what have you from Game Pass that they're going to make. Now, is there a quota? Do you have to hit so many streams? Do you have to hit so many downloads? How many is that? Are you getting pennies on the dollar? What is this, right? How much could a developer possibly make via streaming? that's interesting because i wonder if you can look at it two ways i wonder does microsoft go to these game developers and they're like hey we would like your game to be on game pass i don't think it goes this way i think it's a different way but hypothetically microsoft mr mr william gates goes door to door assassins creed i would like to put your game on game pass here's some money and he just throws money at them like a percentage yeah I doubt it's like that. It's probably the flip reverse. These games probably have to go to Bill Gates' doorstep and they're like, hey, I would like my game to be on your Game Pass. And then they work out some sort of deal and it probably is pennies on the dollar what they get out of it based on Downloads or streams or however Game Pass works. I think it's downloads, right? I'm thinking downloads. I think it's downloads. Yeah, I'm thinking downloads. But still, does it also come into play? Again, I mentioned Sony's not going to release first-party games. on launch day what's a first party game yeah i don't know what first party game is so like so like your big your bigger studios like um like like naughty dog like a triple a title right yeah triple a title like naughty dog like fucking blizzard or what have you or santa monica studios for for sony um they won't they won't release those on day one now if you're like you know if you're 12 months is crazy, though. 12 to 18 months, by the way. So it could be a year to a year and a half. That's extensive. It is, but if you think about it, because now that kind of makes the consumer, I now have to purchase this from the developer. Who gets all the money now? Yeah, I mean, it is developer-friendly. And because everything can be purchased digitally now, it's not like these people are going to be like, oh, I'm going to go to the store, I don't want to buy it. Right. Because you can just press buttons. So I guess I like that more, to be honest. Yeah. It is nice to have everything in one house, like with Game Pass. Yeah, yeah. But I think if you're looking at it from the creative standpoint, the creators getting their money directly is probably more up my alley. I feel like it's probably like an NFL contract. I bet you they get paid money up front just to secure the bag, like up front. Mm-hmm. I mean, if they do so well or so many streams or so many downloads, then they start getting probably pennies or fractions. Yes, that's probably what it's like. I would venture to say it could follow that route. save for like I'd say for their AAA games that's probably how that goes like Call of Duty or whatever that is Xbox friendly mostly they probably go to them and say hey here's some money make this game you can put it on Game Pass as soon as it launches and once you hit I don't know 1.2 million downloads we'll start paying you extra like you know you'll get your bonuses and I can see see it going that route, but at the same time that doesn't feel... And that's where I did read a thread where some people were saying that also kind of plays into, on the Game Pass side, why there are also microtransactions, lots of DLCs, because how else can you make your money as a developer from streaming? I can make extra if I have you pay for stuff. And that's directly in my pocket. I'm going to go off on a side note on this. On microtransactions, I hate them. Nobody likes them. Ever since we, the consumer, was like, sure, I'll buy them. Right. It was just downhill from there. Yeah, we are part of the problem. Right, right. Microtransactions, they were just DLCs in the beginning. Yeah, that's all they were. Yeah. And then... And then they realize they can break down the DLC even further. It perpetuates them to give us a half game. And then be like, we'll update it. right when we're ready right yeah yeah we'll update when we're ready so i don't know for me i'm kind of like i'm not like obviously it's been working for sony right but there's a lot of people that are out there that aren't super fond of the idea they're like oh you know game passes this is why game pass is better i'm like i get it it does have its perks and this isn't to start a war or a fight i'm just you know food for thought right like sony literally is sticking to their business model, which has obviously been working. Again, like I said from the jump, if it's not broke, don't fix it. If they start doing that, what are the percussions at the end of the day? Does that mean people have always pitched? At least I've read and heard from a lot of people that have used Game Pass that yes, it's great, but at the same time, they have this extensive library of garbage that's out there. Just a whole bunch of games that are... I've looked... And yes, there's a lot of games on there that I would never, ever think about trying. So you're paying this money for this streaming stuff or whatever, what have you. You're paying money for Game Pass and you only got it for what? The AAA games like Call of Duty? Maybe four games at most probably. You know what I'm saying? So I'm kind of like, Is it worth it? I mean, don't get me wrong. It is worth it for those that are heavy into gaming, want to try every game under the sun. I'm not trying to discourage anybody from buying Game Pass. Get Game Pass. Game Pass is fucking phenomenal. I would love to be able to just be like, ooh, day one, I can play it for free. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And to be fair, I'm willing to bet... and it's probably a small amount of people, but I'm willing to bet some of the people that have that Game Pass, they will try a game out. They use that service almost just to test games. Absolutely. Because if you test a game and you realize this thing is fucking hot garbage, thank God I didn't buy it. Exactly. And have to go through the process of trying to return it. Now, I can try it, like it, definitely going to go buy this game and then they go get it. I guess you don't need to buy it, right? So here's the thing, though. But things can come and go, right? Yes, that's the catch. Yeah. I forget what game it was, but there was a game I was rocking with and it did get taken off of Game Pass. But that was years ago. Yeah, they only stayed for so long and refreshed the library and Put in new games, put in older games, what have you. Now, Sony does plan on adding certain additions to PlayStation Plus. I forgot what I read on there, but I know that they will have kind of like an online thing where it's like you're playing for free, but you're not really playing for free, and you get to try a game out, almost like free game trials and shit like that. I don't hate that. Yeah, they will have new additions to it. It's just people were kind of hoping, I guess, for a Game Pass-esque version type of feel where I can just be like, oh, okay, their next AAA game is coming out in a couple of months. As soon as it comes out, I'm playing it day one and I don't have to go pay$70 for the game. And for me, I'm like, you know, especially on games that I really like, I want to support the developer, right? I want to help them create the same games that I love, you know what I mean? To where, I don't know. Again, just food for thought. And Sony, if that's how you want to do things, that's how you're going to do things. And we're just going to have to live with it, right? sony fanboys so but anyway but anyway enough about enough about me let's talk about me anyway um so since we don't have melina yeti yo would you like to step to the plate oh he's got it up we're gonna do a little bit of red roulette today batter in the box batter in the box okay all right all right um Pick a number. Between 1 and 2.5 million. 1 and 1.8. 1.8 what? Yeah. Finish your sentence. 1.8. I'm too scared to answer this. 1.8. It's a trap. No trap. What do you got, Grizz? 1.2. Oh, shit. Okay. 1,000. All right, go get some snacks. Two. Nice. Looks awful. Am I the asshole for not going ahead with a plan that changed at 3 a.m.? I'm going to tell you right now. You're not the asshole. You're not the asshole. Moving on. I don't even need to rest, bro. Yeah, next question. Bro, I'm telling you right now, any of you motherfuckers trying to make some plans, and they're trying to make you changes at 3 a.m.? Oh, no. No. No. No. Absolutely not. Hell no. We're fighting. Big facts. You can make that change, and I will keep doing what it was we were doing. Sleep in. Yep. 3 a.m., I'm asleep. Good night. Okay, me and my best friend are very busy people. She has two small children and childcare is very difficult for her. But several months ago, she invited me to a hike to several hours away. But luckily, it was the day before I was going back on shift. So I could actually go. A few weeks after we agreed to that, she went out for a drink to catch up. And she said, although I don't remember this, that she needed to change it from that day to the day after. Then I'd be at work. I don't think she said that. Or if she did, it wasn't communicated properly because I knew I'd be at work, so would have instantly said no if she had asked. Last week, I messaged her to ask if the hike was still on. Yes, I messaged her on the Tuesday about 7 p.m. asking what I needed for the next day, and she was confused, saying, you mean Thursday? I said, no, Wednesday, and sent her the screenshot of when we originally planned it. She said, yeah, but when we went for drinks, I said Thursday. And I said, I don't remember that. I would never have been able to go on Thursday. So I said during the conversation that went around 7 p.m. until 10 p.m., I said, oh, I guess I can't go. Then she messaged me back a little bit when I was already asleep saying it was only the fact her car was in the shop that we couldn't go. I have a car. She didn't ask me. At any point, if I could drive. Otherwise, we could have gone. She sent me a message at 3 a.m. saying she managed to borrow a car. We could still go. Obviously, I was asleep at this point. She messaged me several times from 6 a.m. to about 10 a.m. when I woke up. I even messaged my husband even though he was out. So he could also only message me whatever. But again, I was asleep. By then, it was too late. She's mad at me because I didn't see any of her messages in that time frame. And when I made alternative plans for that day, when it was clear that I had missed her 6 a.m. to 9 a.m. window for leaving, she said I could have messaged her back faster after I woke up and we could have gone somewhere. Even though I was under the impression that she still couldn't get all that on Wednesday because of her childcare. Big group. I've tried an olive branch and sent her my work schedule for the next month saying how we can fix this. Love you. And she's left me on read for the past few days. Yeah, not an asshole. Yeah, you're not an asshole. Your friend's an asshole. For sure. Leaving you on red because of a misunderstanding? Right. See, so that's the thing. It's going to come down to... That's young kid shit. Exactly. It's going to come down to he said, she said bullshit. We're adults. That's what that comes down to. So she texts her at 3 a.m. to say, hey, I got a car. apparently so right hey we are we on for three hours from now shut up go to bed exactly what the fuck like like to be fair if it's that big of a deal and like you were you were eager and going and the last conversation you had with your friend was like i don't work wednesday i could do whatever i want on wednesday if it's that big of a deal get in said borrow car go to said house well yeah Yeah, absolutely. Like, if you're really, really... Yeah, like... I mean, that's borderline crazy, too. Well, no, because, I mean, so the window for leaving was, what, between 6 and 9? Is that what they said? Yeah, that was, yeah. I mean, that's a pretty big fucking window. You can just show the fuck up at, like, 6.30. God, God, God, God. You can drive... Wake your bitch ass up. You can drive said car through that window. I mean, or you can show up at 8 o'clock, and 8 o'clock is pretty manageable. Right. Yeah, right. You know, at a decent time, if the window is between 6 and 9, three hours, Jesus Christ. I also think they're a little bit older. Somebody in this conversation is not. Because she said she has kids. She has two small children. Okay, that doesn't mean anything. She could be 25. Or 19. Or 19. That's not out of the realm of possibilities. It's not. There's an OSTV show on this show. Where are they now? That's crazy. And also like... That's 100% miscommunication, bro. That's exactly what it is. It's exactly what it is. Who the fuck texts somebody at 3 a.m.? I know you're not awake, right? I'm going to text you at 3 a.m. and say, hey, I got this car. No, if I got the car at 3 a.m., I'm going to wait until that window when we're supposed to leave. I'm going to shoot a text or probably make a phone call. And if I don't hear from you, I'm going to be like, oh, they're probably asleep because it was 3 a.m. when I got this fucking car. Let's go over there and wake them up. Right. Then that's it. like I just feel like if anything the friends the asshole for sure yes yeah so friends the asshole so our verdict not the asshole my personal verdict is it should be rewritten to is my friend the asshole change that title to is my friend the asshole for texting me at 3am knowing good and god damn well I was asleep to let me know she got a fucking car to drive in the next 3 hours that's how that needs to be written exactly perfect fucking crushed it she went to bed around 10.30pm and she said that she was working she's been working late late nights and she's also remodeling a house damn the girl the girl that was supposed to go yes and she said that's why she was sleeping that's why she slept so late she'd been remodeling a fucking house yeah she probably is right fucking tired and then she says and i mean here's the thing she said my phone goes on silent when i sleep dnd baby same girl same yep you ain't getting a hold of me like and here's the thing and and my mom hates me when i say this but it's the fucking truth if there's an emergency at three o'clock in the morning there's nothing that i can do no i agree with that like that's very like i'm not trying to be a dick No, it's true. If you require medical attention, you need to call 911 before you call Chauncey. The only thing I'm going to give you is a fucking band-aid. Or I'm going to dial 911 for you and I'll be tired. Or I'm going to say, call 911. Click. That sounds like something my tax dollars should do. Again, and this is the selfish side of me. If there is legitimately an emergency... and I'm sleeping, I would rather deal with whatever that emergency is after a good night rest. I mean, yeah. Listen, let me problem solve with a clear mind. There you go. There you go. Let me get my eight hours of beauty sleep, and then let me get some food in my stomach. I'm straight at six. I'm straight at six. Let me get some food in my stomach. Let me get some waffles afterward, and then you can talk. Yeah, maybe like an OJ. Right. Hold the gloves. OJ, hold the gloves. Oh, my God. Hold on. Time out. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that when I order. Wait. Listen, you better do it in those Dad Force 1s. I swear to God, the next time we are at a fucking restaurant and it's breakfast, I'm going to say, let me get OJ, but hold the gloves. Here's the problem. Here's the problem you're going to run into. You might have a generation that has no idea what the fuck you're talking about. They're going to be like, Orange Juice doesn't have gloves, dude. OJ doesn't come with gloves, you call me? Brother? Brother, don't you know that OJ does not come with gloves? Oh, okay, okay. Not my OJ. My OJ does. Oh, if you Google OJ, hold the gloves. The AI response is about the O.J. Simpson trial. Let's go. So I'm golden. So I'm golden. And he even gives a picture of O.J. trying to set the level. Absolutely. It don't fit, dog. It don't fit. You must have quit. That motherfucker had his fingers spread out like... They got the wrong size glove, bro. Like, really? They had like a medium for like the guy with extra large fucking hands. They're like, did you forget? Wasn't he a running back? Yes, I was going to say, did you forget he played football? Like, the motherfucker's huge. Hey, so... They're like, here, try this glove on, OJ. Sure. Look at this motherfucker. Looking like... I'm weak. Anyway, so the verdict, not the asshole. Not the asshole. Your friend is 110% the asshole. So yeah, just listen. Those of you listening, our listeners, our lovely listeners, don't do that to your friends. I got a question. Yes. Jeremy, for Halloween this year, Can you just wear a gray suit and some black gloves and just walk around like this the whole time? I could, but I would like to know who Jeremy is. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry, Jay. I would like to know who that is, because he sounds like a really awesome dude, though, by the way. No, he sounds cool. I want to meet him someday. But no, I could probably do that. I could probably swing that. So anyway, have you ever just been... hanging out in your room and you're like, man, I could really go for some fucking Magic Mind. 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And now you can watch the health bar raise. You can watch my concentration levels spike when we get into this topic of ours, which, what are we talking about today? Because I think it's going to be a deep conversation. It's 100% going to be a deep. I see what you did there, too. Let's dive in it. Let's go ahead and dive right on in. The jokes just keep coming. They write themselves. They really do. You know what I'm saying? Something of like titanic proportions. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you right now. This conversation is about to go down. I'm telling you. It's about to go down. Oh, yeah. It's about to go down because we are under pressure to get this shit going. You know what I'm saying? This is literally the equivalent of a family guy cutaway. 100%, bro. I say we submerge ourselves into this conversation starting right now. I think so, too. We'll kind of wade into it a little bit. We're fucking idiots, dude. Absolute gold. Absolute gold. Absolute cinema. Absolute cinema. So, anyway, what are we talking about today, y'all? You know what's funny The name of the It's called the Ocean Gate So we're going to be talking about the Ocean Gate But isn't that like What was the Tom Brady thing It didn't end with the gate as well Oh like the deflate gate Yeah the deflate gate And it's just funny that Ocean Gate One would say it's a bigger version of Watergate. I mean, sure. Now, Ocean Gate is the name of the company, by the way. Which is crazy. Yeah, that is fucking crazy. That's what I'm saying. It's fucking wild. It's got multiple meanings behind that. But yeah, we will be talking about the Titan Submersible. Mainly not because, you know, we're bored. Because Netflix and Max now have wonderful documentaries to watch at haven't watched them you need to check them out um but they do have whole documentaries about all the fuckery that was happening at ocean a lot there was quite a bit there was a lot of fuckery going on dude okay you know my favorite part about this documentary so i watched the netflix one specifically uh titan yep yep was it called titan so i watched i watched the netflix one exclusively i haven't seen max's and i want to But my favorite piece of lore is all that shit was built right in my backyard here in Seattle. Just north of Seattle and Everett, Washington. That shit is crazy. Grizz is like, it was right up the street. No joke. It was right up the street. Right up the street. You got people from UW and Boeing working on it. These are words that I know. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. I for real thought you were going to say when Stockton said or when he was quoted saying I'll just buy a congressman. Yo, that was wild work. Dude, I guess. Okay, so let's dive into this. And again, every pun that we throw out here is intended. Because, number one, fuck this guy. Yes, yes. Like, in every way, shape, and form. Please hold all empathy for the end. Yes, exactly. At least for this one guy, right? Because if you haven't seen it, and you watch it, you will find out very quickly that all it does is make you more pissed off at Stockton Rush. That's right. That was his name. I forgot his name. He was so above everybody and everything else. It was asinine. Their investigations are still ongoing, but let's get into this about how Stockton Rush knew a lot of problems that were happening with these fucking submersible And did nothing about it. Literally did nothing about it. And anybody that said anything about it, he just said, yeah, you gotta go. Bye-bye. Yeah. Right. What? Straight up fired everybody. That's crazy. Literally the Tom Cruise of submersibles. He was like, I can't do this stunt. Out of here. Out of here. The fuck out. Give me another guy. No shit. And I'm just like, what in the absolute fuck? Because let me tell you, when he said that, the way that he was doing everything to... Everything in his power to avoid any kind of U.S. regulations. That's insane. He went through and literally found every loophole. Every loophole. every loophole literally every single one because because these people were considered what were they called mission specialists yes because if they're considered mission specialists they're not technically tourists so yes you know right yeah they're not they're not they're not uh like they pay money right yes yeah they're not uh what they call it um um tourist was the word No, passenger. That's the word I was looking for. They're not passengers. They are crew members. They're crew members. They are mission specialists. The fuck they are. Right. Exactly. No fucking shit. And for him to straight up lie to these people and say, okay, so we're going to flag it in the Bahamas, but we're launching from somewhere in Canada. I was like, what? And the guy that was like, yeah, that's not okay. We need to get the... We need to get the sub classed. Right. Like that was the whole thing. They were under the impression. Right. They were under the impression that Stockton was going to get that submersible class because he had like two or three others that he made that were classed. So, you know, why would they think anything else? And this guy is doing everything in his power to have the U.S. government or anybody just stay away from it. And the reason is he knew he knew that it wasn't going to work. this is why he was so adamant on getting that machinery down there and it's because all the submarine submersive aircraft or crafts or whatever you want to call them they're all made out of steel or titanium and when you make and they're heavy as balls yes and but they're durable But the four that are... Out of the four pods that can make it, they're made out of titanium, steel, but the thing is they're super expensive. Yes, they are. They're expensive to make. They're heavy. Yes, and apparently carbon fiber is cheaper. Yes, it is. It's much cheaper. And he is... Lighter. Very lighter. Yes, and he thought... Yes. Yes. Yes. And that's what fucked everybody. That's all it came down to was he wanted to be a pioneer because he said, everybody kept calling me crazy and said, you're fucking nuts. And I'm like, I'm going to prove them wrong. And it cost you and four other people their fucking lives. Like, what? It was literally, it was still an experimental sub because with every experiment, every, like when they did the one third scaled sub. Yeah, the scaled version. Yeah, I know on The Netflix one, they showed that. Every time they did that, it was like, it would burst. And the crazy part was they got to like 6,700 PSI. So on the small scale, you could double how far they got down. But when they got to the full scale, they could never make it to 4,000 fucking meters. Yeah, right, right. And he knew that. He knew that. But when somebody would bring it up, he's like, yeah, you know, I don't think you're as adventurous as we are. So you're going to have to, yeah, just pack your things and go. You know what I mean? And then he would literally find like, oh, this accountant right here, you're going to be our next sub driver. That was crazy when I interviewed her. She was like, I'm not. I'm an accountant. A pilot. Yeah. He's like, this is going to be so great. You're going to be the first woman pilot of this thing. She's like, huh? Huh? Me? Huh? Right. Right. Yeah. I'm good on that. You're going to be our next pilot. Huh? Me? You ain't talking to me. I know you ain't talking to me. Dude, I don't even have my permit yet, bro. Yeah. No shit. No fucking shit. Yeah. That was crazy work. It was crazy work. What was that first whistleblower's name? The actual pilot who was like, we're not getting this thing regulated? I'm out. Yeah, I don't remember his fucking name. Dude, that guy is my hero. Yes, yes, yes. But here's the thing, though. My question is, when all these people got fired... How come they didn't raise a bigger fuss? So if you were paying attention, I don't remember if it was a Netflix one or the Max one. I'm pretty sure it was a Netflix one. But Stockton Rush, he told his buddy who, which again- He told the engineer. Yeah, the engineer. The main engineer. Yes, he told the main engineer that he had no problem spending$50,000 on ruining somebody's life. he basically scared everybody to not talk he was bullying people into not saying anything because he had the money and that was the thing he barely had the money you're right but he was putting up a good front making everybody believe that he could afford to ruin your fucking life because mainly Boeing bowed out because he had no money and and They probably knew the shit wasn't going to work. Dude, that's fucking, that's crazy. Here's the crazy thing is I, I, after watching that documentary, I believe it can work. It just needs more testing. It may be, maybe the whole can't be a hundred percent carbon fiber, right? Maybe, maybe you need to do some steel reinforcing like a cage and then have the carbon fiber put around it something. But he was, he was so dead set on like, no, we're doing it this way. And it's like, brother, you are beating your head into a wall and expecting the wall to move. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. It's crazy. It was interesting because of course, you know, um, um, Getty, you know, mom does, does all those, all those, uh, uh, audits and everything like that. And she has, she has like, she knows the ins and outs of that stuff. And she did make the suggestions. She was like, what I think happened when Boeing left, when Boeing like parted ways with ocean gate, uh, Because Boeing gave him the design for that sub, for the hull. When they pulled out, when they were like, no, I'm good. She was like, Stockton was supposed to send everything back. That includes the plans and the schematics for that sub. Oh, yeah, he kept that shit. He kept that shit. So he was working with what he had. And at that point, he's like, it has to succeed. At that point, he was like, I have to because now I'm hurting on money. I have no backing, and I got to start getting money in. He started selling tickets to people, started selling rides for people. What? Bro, that makes me so mad. He sold tickets and took people down to these expeditions that weren't the Titanic. Right. They were like, I forget, what was it, like somewhere outside of Mexico? Shipwrecks, yeah. Some shipwrecks that were like well below the 3,000 PSI range. And like, honestly, it could have probably fucking imploded at that point too. Yes, it could have. Because in the dock, one of the experts that was like part of the cross-examination was basically saying, if you take a ski and you bend it, And you hear it cracking. It's not, oh, it cracked 700 times. We're good. It's a matter of when it's going to crack, not if it will crack. It's going to ultimately break. And that's the thing with the submersible. It was always going to break. It was just a matter of when. Another perfect example, you said a ski. Another thing is, because I know everyone's done this. This is a paper clip. If you take a paperclip and just continuously bend it, at some point it's just going to snap. Yeah, it breaks. One of the engineers was smart enough before he got canned, he put all those microphones in there and Stockton wanted there to be one microphone and my man put like five billion or some shit. He put a bunch of them. So fun fact. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I mean, I don't want to jump too far into the documentary timeline, but I found it interesting that each one of those trips, they have audio recordings of said microphones and when big spikes would occur. And so they have a track record of when... They can basically calculate from that point, okay, it survived all these trips. It's going to fail eventually. You know what I mean? And it was, thankfully, one of the mission specialists fucking saw water back in between the titanium and the carbon fiber. And I'm pretty sure that absolutely pissed off. Destroyed it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then they found that seven-foot-long crack. And that was Cyclops 1. And then they brought in a whole new design team, whole new engineers. It's no longer Boeing. It's some other company that can do it even cheaper than Boeing. And that one, Cyclops 2, never passed the tests on the scaled version. It never got close to 4,000 PSI. Nope. And they just fucking ran with it. Yeah. Stockton just ignored every warning sign. And I was going to say, fun fact, that acoustic system that they put in there, I mean, yeah, Stockton was all for it. Like you said, he just wanted one microphone in there, though. So he was telling everybody that, oh, we'll know well before catastrophic failure that it's going to fail. Nope. Well, technically speaking, it did work. Because when they found that massive crack in the hull, that was on dive 80, I believe it was. And that's when they had the loudest pop. Because they said they heard of... The guy was like, I didn't want to go. Or he was fine going. But once he got to the surface, they were almost breaking the surface of the water. And that's when they heard a really loud pop. And that showed... on on the acoustics on the charts right it showed on the charts and that's when that crack in the hole happened so technically speaking their system worked he just ignored the failsafe right they installed on this fucking thing yeah yeah and then dive 81 you they show the they show them they have the fucking paperwork right they have and you see in dive dive 80 The little, like, the little, like, raises. The no line. Little baby. And then dive 81. Fucking all over the place. Oh, everywhere. Yes. Dude, like. Yes. Dude, I would have seen that and been like, I'm good. Yeah, I'm straight. I'm not getting in there. I'll go door dash. Like, I'm out. No, no, no. For real. For real, though. Okay, let's put it like this. The average American, they get in their car, right? Yep. A car that we drive every fucking day. Yeah. The moment you hear a noise that you do not recognize or it is repetitive or whatever the case may be. What do you do? Oh, you are literally like most of the time what I'm doing. Listen, most people do what you want us to say. Yeah. Yeah. Turn it on the radio. They stop. I'm like, they take their shit to a fucking deal to a fucking mechanic and say, hey, fix this or what's wrong with it. Yeah. Stockton's the guy that just turns the radio up. Or crazy people turn the radio up. I was going to say Stockton's the guy that'll turn the radio up and say, I don't hear a thing. But here's the difference. Here's the difference between people in their cars and people in their submersible. If something happens and I ignore a problem in my car, something could break and I might get in an accident. But likely the statistic says I'm not going to die. Right. And I'm not underwater. If I'm in a vehicle and I hear something that sounds anything remotely like it's not supposed to be there, abort. We're going back. Abort. But it was interesting to see even in the documentary when Stockton went down himself when they went to the Bahamas and they did all the testing on the one. Is that when he was driving it? Well, he was in there by himself. Oh, okay. He went down. They started like 3 a.m. or some shit like that. Yes, I remember. They have the video of him in there, and as it's going down, all you hear is that. And I keep telling people, I'm like, if you watch the Netflix documentary, they focus– I know I said they have their differences, but they are similar in the likes of, they're telling kind of the same story about Stockton and all that kind of shit. But in the Netflix documentary, they show a lot more about, they focus more about the fuckery that went on in Ocean Gate. And when he goes down in the Bahamas, I mean, the moment that bitch is in the water, the noise you hear inside of that fucking hole will haunt your fucking dreams. Dude, it's insane. Bro, it's loud. It's just this popping, non-fucking-stop. And I'm like, the first time that I heard it on the documentary, I was like, that can't be good. I was like, there's just no fucking way. I feel like you shouldn't be hearing those things. No, and what's happening is those tiny little carbon fiber strands are breaking. They're breaking. Yeah. That popping is, every fiber on there is just... And eventually, it's going to disappear.

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And he's like, no, that's totally normal. As if it's not. But here's where this motherfucker, he's too smart to be this dumb. Exactly. Yeah. Those fibers are breaking. Right. When you come back from an expedition, they don't refuse. Yeah. and then re-break again. Now, if that was the case, if they had a fucking Wolverine healing factor... Regenerative hold. Different fucking story. But you take a 100% healthy vessel, and you go down, and then 20% damage occurred, you come back up, and then you compound that over 80 fucking expeditions? Yep. That's a problem. And then keep in mind, because you said that there was water between the hull and the... The exterior and the interior. Yes, yes. When water gets in that shit, they kept that shit out in the fucking winter. That was their other problem. It wasn't supposed to stay in cold temperatures. Water freezes. Carbon fiber, regardless, should not be in that kind of temperature because carbon fiber is so brittle. Because, I mean, just to be fair, I got a carbon fiber hood on my vehicle. And yes, it's like putting a lot of pressure on one point. But they tell you, don't over-tighten. Because once you over-tighten it, that shit's going to crack. Because it's not like the steel hood that they put on it. It's not metal. Right, it's not metal. So it's like, it's good. Right. It's brittle. It's plastic and glue. Right. If it's sub-zero temperature, that shit's going to break. Listen to what you're saying. You're saying carbon fiber is brittle. Why would you make a fucking hole out of fucking carbon fiber? He thought it was thick enough. It's incredibly strong, but it can be brittle under a certain stress. Right. It's durable, but everybody kept telling him that carbon fiber... alone is not meant for those kind of pressures. It's not meant for what the fuck he was doing. Because we use carbon fiber on spacecraft and shit, but they don't build the whole spacecraft out of carbon fiber. He was just trying to find a cheaper way to make it where he can make money off of fucking... rides to the fucking Titanic. That's it. Yes, that is all it was. Because again, when Boeing backed out, he knew that money was going to start becoming an issue because he didn't have the support anymore and all that kind of shit. So he had to get the money flowing in somehow. And how do I do that? I just start getting expeditions to fucking to the Titanic or to wherever I can. And the crazy part is a quarter of a million dollars? Right. To maybe survive. To maybe come back. What? That's crazy, man. I don't even play the lottery. I don't even play the lottery and I'm guaranteed to not die. No shit. That's crazy work. Yeah, I like those ones. Oh, man. So I don't know. It's just, again, those documentaries, if you do get a chance, Grizz, watch the Max one, Implosion, because they got Josh Gates, which I don't know if you guys know who Josh Gates is. Destination. Whatever it is. Destination. Expedition. Yeah. Whatever it is. You know what I'm talking about. Expedition. Yeah. One of those. Yeah. I like him yes he's and he does a lot of shady shit like when I say shady I mean like shaky like he was in a plane that literally had the floor rusted out and he was flying right well so right so it's crazy and and when he got and when he went over there and he like the look on his face was like it screamed like this is not a good idea and I'm like if Josh Gates is telling you this is a bad idea it's probably a fucking bad idea like oh boy the No, I was just going to say... Oh, sorry. Go ahead. No, I was just going to say that the one person that I also feel... I probably feel the most bad for is the YouTuber. Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, I wouldn't feel too bad for him. He gets to survive. No, you're right. That's survivor's guilt. Yeah, the survivor's guilt. No, because in theory, in theory, he... He would have been on the expedition, right? Yes. He would have been. But they had to bring him back. If they actually went, it would have been better then. And that's why he feels bad. I feel bad for him. The empathy for that kid is there. But he should be grateful that he wasn't. And I'm sure he is. I'm not saying he's not grateful. Right, right. But if he could just recognize that... Every single person that went on that thing was fucking lied to. Yep. Big time. You know? And, like, that's crazy. You know who I actually feel the most confused by? Is that, like, French expeditioner. Oh, yeah. Mr. Titanic. Yeah, that, like, well-traveled guy. Like, what the fuck? Because that guy seemed way too smart. And I just want to know what lies was being fed to that guy. Right. So I don't remember which one it was, but I know somebody asked him about it. They were like, so with all the issues that are going on with the sub... Why do you do it? Aren't you worried that this carbon fiber is a bad idea? And he gave some sort of answer that I was like, it almost sounds like he just wants to fucking die. I was like, this guy sounds suicidal. I was like, he wants to go down to the Titanic and die there. And I was like, what? His obsession could have led him there. You know what I'm saying? Because I remember there was a clip from where he talked about that guy specifically... he said something along the lines. I'm going to paraphrase. Uh, if, if, if my expertise can provide some safety to these trips, then I'm more than happy to lend that expertise. Right. And like, valid yeah however there's like a long list of people saying that you shouldn't be doing this exactly and you're just gonna ignore what they say like i don't i didn't understand it i i honestly didn't and stockton rush like again i know his his engineer friend was it was his friend it was his buddy and at the end of that whole thing he was like you know you shouldn't talk ill of the dead and blah blah blah because you know he was like if he was here now yeah i'd smack him one i'm like nah bruh motherfucker knew better he knew better and then and then still took lots of money from people and put their lives in danger no i'll talk shit yeah yeah because and someone someone got it in his head that he was going to be the next like bezos or the next elon musk because you know those guys those guys were going to space and he's like no one's going to no one's going to the Titanic. Not like this. Right. And he thought he was going to be like the, the underwater version of those two guys. Yeah. And that's probably what fucking drove him mad. I could see that. Honestly, I could see that. Yeah. A little bit of envy or something. it was crazy. Yeah. It's, it's fucking nuts. But, um, I think part of the conversation I wanted to have was cause I told my parents they should watch it. They did watch both of them, which congrats to them. Um, I don't remember which one it was, but the guy at the end of it, he mentioned it wasn't the issues, it wasn't the warnings that Stockton had that led to them dying, it was the culture. And my mom was kind of confused. She was like, what does he mean by the culture? And I was like, well, I mean, if you think about it, especially the culture nowadays, Stockton had enough money, obviously, to ruin somebody's life, or... buy a congressman if they got involved and make the problem go away, right? Because that's literally, that's a direct quote from Stockton Rush himself. If the U.S. came poking around and said, I'll buy a congressman and make it go away. So the culture is they've got so much money that they can, that they think they can at least, do whatever they want to do. Right, so it's like that culture is, especially amongst the 1%, shall we say, is like, if I throw enough money at it, my problems all go away. Okay. It's dangerous. It's very dangerous. And this should be a huge monument to how dangerous that mindset can be, because especially if you're doing something like that, not only have you put yourself first, at risk obviously it was an experimental sub the entire time because it never passed you know it never passed a fucking test so you now have four other people on this sub with you and the one person I feel the worst for and I hate it is the guy's son who went because the story is he didn't even want to go he just went there because it was a father's day thing so he went there to appease his dad and And next thing you know That's crazy I didn't even want to be here I didn't even want to be two miles underneath the fucking ocean But here I am And that's the last thing you know You know what actually Wrecks me when I think about it Is the fact that They're I don't even know what to call them We'll call it the control room The people on the boat that are monitoring while they go down, lost signal, what was it, like three or five minutes? They lost them. It was like a few seconds. I thought there was a little bit of time. It was a few seconds, because what... What had happened, I don't know if it was the Netflix one. I think this one was on the map. I think it's the Netflix one. Is it? Because I remember, I watched the Netflix one, and they talk about it a little bit. And there's footage from the boat, and they all hear an explosion. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then it was the Netflix one. So, yeah, they caught the moment that implosion happened. Because you hear it. It sounds like... But what sucks, man, is they waited... To report that shit. Okay, so here's what happened with that. And that's why I wanted to touch on what you were saying when they lost contact. Because when she radioed and basically asking, what's going on? What's your position? What's going on? And then they hear... the implosion or what we, I'm going to use air quotes, the implosion. Um, and then the problem was they had sent a text from the sub saying they had dropped two weights and that text came through after the noise. So they thought that what they heard were the weights getting dropped and that's why nothing was said. Because if you notice his wife, who is the one that's talking that whole time, she hears it and she says, what was that boom? And you can see on her face that she knew at that moment that's an implosion. She knew that it imploded. I'm not going to lie to you. You could drop weights all day. I don't think you're hearing that shit. No, I don't. I don't know how heavy those weights were, but I don't think you're hearing that shit. You're not hearing that. You're not. Not like that. Right. She even said they were about 500 meters from where they needed to be. So they weren't all the way at the fucking bottom. They still had a way to go. So for me, I mean, the way that they're looking at it is that message gave them false hope. basically saying okay so we heard you know what i'm saying they heard it and the guy that was doing the investigation was like judging by the speed of sound and how that delay what they had a five second delay it took about three seconds for that to hit because they were about three thousand meters uh below below the surface at that point and it took and about a couple seconds later they got the message so that's where it was like that's why they didn't report it because they were like oh yeah they just dropped weights okay we're good all right so we'll wait and they were waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and then they're like oh we're not getting it and that's when they said we lost communication but at that point it's like watching that footage you knew like you knew once you heard that you're like yep they're gone yeah that's horrible dude it is you know what sucks too is you I hate to say it because I don't want to believe it but I've I, when this news broke, like when we were just reading headlines on Twitter and shit. I'm watching the countdown clock of no air. Yeah. Remember when they did that? So when I saw all that, I was like, when they had the countdown, I kind of didn't believe that. I was like, they're probably already gone. I didn't think they were just down there with no... Running out of oxygen. I don't know. I just didn't believe that part. But... When you think about... Once you realize, watching the documentary, that all the problems that that thing had and the fucking creaking and cracking that that thing did on all those other expeditions... Dude, they fucking knew it was coming before it came. They just didn't know when. And I hate that for them. They were probably scared out of their mind. And they got this cocky-ass narcissist motherfucker down there that's like, don't worry. I put the PS2 controller in hyperdrive. We'll be fine. And then the thing just fucking, you know what I'm saying? Turbo mode or something. Yeah, no shit. I hear you, bro. That shit makes me so mad when I really think about it. It makes me sad and mad at the same time. It really does. and hearing the important sound yeah and the fact that the camera caught that audio that shit was loud right and dude that's like I don't know like it sucks because when you hear that sound you know that's when they died oh yeah Because you just know. And that was another thing that kind of drove me a little nuts when they pulled all the wreckage out and everything. They were like, well, if it imploded, why is the rest of this sub? Because that wasn't the hull imploded. The hull was made of the carbon fiber. Everything else was made of steel, titanium, whatever it was. They had certain parts that could withstand pressures like that. But when they pulled the hull out, you seen it was just shredded. It was fucking shredded. And I'm like, bro, you don't see the hull and what the fuck it looks like? That's where the fuck they were sitting. Right. Are we serious? And people are like, well, how come you found these remains and not these remains? And somebody put it in an interesting way that they were thinking more physics. They had to think more biology at that point because they literally became toothpaste. Yeah, that's what I was actually curious. I was looking up the definition of implosion to see if I could find... If there was like a temperature or, you know what I mean? So it's a combination of things because when the implosion happened, again, I don't know which documentary he states it, but at the end of it when he talks about when the implosion happened, they were introduced to temperatures hotter than the sun and pressures that were more than double inside of a scuba tank. So, I mean, if you think about it, about where they were at, like 3,600 feet, I mean, you're talking 3,600 PSI. Mm-hmm. All around you at one time. We are, we, whenever, above ground, we are, I think we're subject to like one... or something like that at all times. Like, you can, like, we have pressure against us, but nothing like what they were, nothing like they were at down there. So, I mean, people kept showing these photos or videos of implosions because they were like, there's no way, you know, the conspiracy theorists. Because there's that famous video of a tanker that implodes, right? And they're like, see, it doesn't shred, it just kind of shrinks a little bit. You would, it would have held perfectly fine. I'm like, okay, number one, It's not carbon fiber. Two totally different materials going on here. Number two, you are not recreating that pressure when it's sitting outside. You're not. You're not putting over 3,600 PSI on that fucking thing. You're not. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll tell you what. You put that bitch in 3600 PSI and have that motherfucker implode. I bet that motherfucker looks like the hole did. I can almost guarantee it. Yeah. I mean, there was no recovery of the hole, right? No. No. It was there. Because they just recovered the... No, I'm talking about the carbon fiber part. That carbon fiber was gone, right? They just pulled back titanium and steel. Yeah, that was literally it. And they pulled up the nose. which I think this one was on the Max documentary. Because the Coast Guard, or yeah, I believe the Coast Guard, they lean more into the investigation side of things on Max, on the Max documentary. That's why I say watch that one, so that way you can kind of... Yeah, I want to. They've absolutely said... It looks like that. So right there, that's where your hole used to be. It's gone That whole thing It's fucking gone It should have attached to this guy right here Yeah, because that's the nose And when they pulled the nose out That's where the globe was, right? That was the nose of the sub So when they pulled that nose out They said it was just full of sand And what they could just imagine Is like human paste, essentially That's crazy Because this is what it looked like Yeah So what you're not seeing in that photo is the carbon fiber black circular part. Right. Which is inside that thing. Yes. Which is why they only were able to recover the tail. With a strip of carpet. Right. Or whatever was on the bottom of it. Dude, literally, he had some fucking problems. Like you said, Grizz, he was too smart to be that fucking stupid. And I don't understand it. All it came down to was arrogance. He thought... Arrogance and greed, probably. Yep. Let's see how cheap we can build this. Because that's the other thing. If it's lighter, it's cheaper to launch because you can rent a smaller boat. Yep. And those boats that they have to rent are not cheap. They're not cheap. So if you can get a smaller boat, it's less money you got to spend. Yep. So I don't know. It's tough because it's like... And at the same time, because I know back when it happened, everybody on TikTok all of a sudden became experts and everything. And they're like, oh, so. You know how it is. Actually. Actually. Shut the fuck up. You mow lawns for a living. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. Over here, all of a sudden, understand how two miles underneath the fucking ocean works. Go home. Go home, Kevin. Yeah, go home, Kevin. Go home. Get out of here. But it's like, you know, when that happened, I don't know, just people just out there with their conspiracy theories and just, I don't know. Again, it's tough. It's tough because for me, I felt bad for the four other people that were on there because they were lied to. Just straight up fucking lied to. Straight lied. Every single person that went on an expedition. The journalist from... Fuck, what was that news station? CNN or MSNBC? Yeah, something like that. ABC somewhere. Some from New York. It was ABC, that's right. Dude, the ghostly face on that gentleman's body when they're interviewing for the doc yeah like dude that's insane yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. For me, I'm just like, the moment you open that bitch up, if I'm stupid enough to go over there, right? The moment you open that bitch up and I see everything that's in there and I'm like, how do you pilot this thing? And he holds up a fucking controller that looks very similar to this. I'm like, you know what? We are a boarding mission. I'm good, dog. Yeah, I'm good. You know what? You keep my$250,000. You need it more than me. You need it more than I do. Clearly. I'm going to watch from topside. No shit. No shit. You go down. I'll be rooting for you. You got an extra controller? I'm going to go find a PS5. Right. That's what I'm doing. I just found this video. It's on YouTube. It's what they feel is a reenacting of the implosion. They said that the implosion duration probably took 20 milliseconds. Yeah. The human brain pain response Dupain is 150 milliseconds. They didn't feel anything. The problem was what Grizz said. That's the only good part about it. That is best case scenario to go. You're here and then you're not. You didn't feel a thing. It's just black. But to Grizz's point, you know they were hearing all kinds of fucking popping and shit. It just sucks because you know that that shit lost lost connection moments before it happened. So this is what it... Hold on. I'm trying to get it to where it fucking does not have glare and shit. So bear with me. So like this... Does that help at all? Yeah, a little bit. A little bit, yeah. Oh, you're playing us a video? Aw, I feel like I'm in school. So that's how quickly it happened. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, again, their brain did not have any time to process any kind of pain. Once again, you're there, and then you're not. That's crazy. Yeah, that's how quickly it happened. Again, best case scenario. But for me, the people that were saying, oh, they weren't panicking, they didn't feel a thing. No, all that noise they were hearing, I'm sure. This is what the bodies possibly look like. Yes. Hold on, just wait. It's... And just jelly. Just becomes jelly right there. Yeah. I mean, what did you say, Jay? They got, like, temperatures, like, double or triple the sun? Yeah, hotter than the sun. So it's like you are instantly cooked. And I don't mean that as in, Chatter, how cooked am I? Like, you're fucking... You are fucking cooked, bro. Like, instant. Instant. You're done. You're done. Again, yes, they didn't feel a thing, but... They had to have known it was coming. That entire trip down, I bet that motherfucker was singing to him. I bet it was fucking screaming. I'm sure it was. Screeching. Yes. Probably sounded like a 95 Fox Body Mustang just screaming all the way down there. I'm sorry. Terrible. Bad idea. Bad idea. But, yeah, just, it's, again, we're not talking about it because we're bored. We're talking about it because there is a documentary, right? And one of the guys did bring up, he said, Stockton Rush just wanted to be famous. He wanted to be remembered. And guess what? Well, he got it. He got it. Yeah, he did. And I'm like, that sucks, right? Like, in a way, that fucking sucks. It may not be the way that he wanted, but. Right, it kind of sucks because, I mean, granted, it, Double-edged sword. Because, yes, it should be an eye-opening wake-up call to those that think they can get away with whatever and cut corners and think they'll be fine. But at the same time, you really want to make this dude famous? Yeah, right, right, right. You know what I mean? Like, this dude was an asshole. There's lessons to be learned here. Yes. But... It just sucks that this asshole is going to get famous for this. Thankfully, it'll be more infamy than anything. God damn it, dude. I know. I told you. Some of his employees I feel bad for, too. That one girl that stayed way longer than she felt like she should have, but she was like, it's COVID. It's good money. I can't blame her. I probably would have done the same shit. I mean, hell, I worked at a shipping company for... many years longer than i wanted to oh you know shipping company did you work at i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm kidding i'm joking i'm joking i'm joking but it rhymes but it rhymes with that's fucking great that's fucking great are we twins what the fuck The funny thing is when you guys were saying it, I was saying that in my head. I didn't want to interrupt you guys. You know how amazing that would have been if all three of us said it at the same fucking time. Right. Wavelength. Put a bow on it and wrap that bitch up. We would have just ended right there. Oh, yeah. And we're done. And on that note, we're good. That was insane, dude. Couldn't do that again if we tried. I swear to God. That's beautiful. Like Grizz said, there is a lesson to be learned there. And I hope, I'm praying, that somebody learns from his mistakes. I can't even say mistakes. Because mistakes are something that you don't mean to do, right? Right. True, true, true. Learn from his negligence. There you go. Yes. That's a better way to put it. Yes, because that's all that was. It was negligence. It was arrogance. Learn from that. Learn from that. And of course, the... Coast Guard or whoever it is they're still doing their investigation because of course people you know my parents were asking so I mean how what could they do I'm like well because remember he'd had everybody sign a waiver as you should especially if you're doing something in the ocean but here's the thing when you sign a waiver it is for like accidental death right there is a such thing as accidental death accidents happen especially if you're going down to the fucking Titanic there's no telling what can happen so question yes Is it an accidental death if the tour guide, if you will, knows the potential risk? So that's literally what I was about to lead into was if it's negligence, I believe that that waiver is null and void because it is now a crime. You knew there were problems. You knew it was going to fail. You knew there were problems. It is now a crime because this is now murder. Whether it be manslaughter or whatever the case may be. Yo, I didn't even think about it like that. That's absolutely what it was. That's some crazy-ass murder-suicide shit. Yeah, when you break it down, yeah, that's exactly it. So, of course, my parents were like, but who do they go after? Because Stockton is dead. I'm like, you go after the company. His wife, right? She's still here. And you go after the company. Obviously. It's going to be the company. People at that company knew because, you know, yes, there were employees that went against what he said, but we all know what happened to them. He said, you know, gave him the boot. But his wife, I can almost guarantee you she knew what the fuck was up. I can almost guarantee you that. But she didn't say anything. I'm curious to know how much she actually knew. So I don't think they'll go after her. Why not? Personally, I would because you know he had a life insurance policy. You dive into the Titanic, life insurance policy. You know it. You fucking know it. Whether he knew he had a life insurance policy or not, he got one. Yeah, he got one. I'm just saying, I just don't know if the family members who lost people, I don't know I know that rich girl is trying to sue him. Yes, she is. Her dad went down. But I think she's going after Ocean Gate. Yeah, she's going after the company. I just don't think the wife herself can be a targeted individual. Unless she knew something. If she knew there was a problem, you are now an accessory. I will say this much even if she's like in the clear she will be a part of the investigation yes she will I do agree with that if they do find yeah I just I don't know because then it becomes like a he said she said because if they do find where she may have known well then why didn't you do anything to stop them and that's where she's gonna get some problems that's where the charges are gonna get touch to her. But again, now you've got to prove that I 100% If there's any kind of text messages that were sent back and forth between the two, emails, anything, any little thing that could possibly show that she knew something and didn't say anything, she's in trouble. I guarantee you she's in trouble. But will somebody go that far? I don't know. I'm going to assume the government is going to definitely go after OceanGate. I mean, they have to. They're going to investigate OceanGate and probably ask a lot of people that work there, what happened? What did you know? How much did you know? What do you do if you're these companies like Boeing or that pilot even? that ultimately was the first person to resist him. Let's rewind the clock. You're working with this guy and these tests keep failing and you're like, you don't have the budget for me anymore and you're bowing and you walk away. Do you tip off some authorities like, hey, you might want to keep an eye on this company. There's some weird shit going on. Or do you just let that shit ride? I mean... Oftentimes, I think people just let it ride, obviously. I think that's what that... I think nine times out of ten, that's what they're going to do. Because they're afraid of retaliation, number one. But I do know that the pilot guy that we're talking about, if we're talking about the same guy, excuse me, he did try to do something about it. That's true. He's in a lawsuit, or he was in a lawsuit battle, right? Right, he was. The problem was, The company was hitting him with like... Countersuits. Yeah, countersuits. I think. For whatever the fuck it was that they were suing him. Defamation or some shit. Yeah, something like that. But they kept going to basically drain him of money and just kind of suffocate him until he decides, okay, well, I can't continue this. That's crazy. That is crazy. Yeti, did you have something you wanted to... I was just going to say So the problem is You go down a fucking rabbit hole And you just fall Fall, fall, fall So anyways So I did look it up They said that it's highly Unlikely that she can Face criminal charges But not impossible That's not a no It's highly unlikely But there's still a possibility But they said that where she will be held accountable is for civil suits. Right. Again, the families would have to do something and go... What'd you say? I said the families would have to do something, take something civilly. Yes, because of her positions within the company during the time... Correct. Wait, was she a part of the company? Yeah. Yes. Oh, shit, that changes everything. Yeah. So she held positions like director of communications and member of the expedition team and was also the personal representative of Stockton Rush Real Estate, placing her in a position of legally responsibility for Ocean Gates liabilities. However, the primary responsibility of the tragedy is going to fall on Stockton Rush, who is the CEO and designer of the submersible and his decisions to disregard safety warning. How are you going to sue a dead man? That's crazy. Right. Well, again, they did it with the company. No, it's insane. The whole thing is just really shitty. It's sad. Yeah, and watching the documentary definitely is eye-opening, in my opinion. It is. I have a crazy question for us and the audience if they want to jump in. what is more tragic the original tragedy of the titanic in the what was that like 20s or 30s no no it was it was like 1910 or some i forget 12 i don't know early 1900s is that more tragic or is this i mean i guess i know the answer however i just want to hear the discourse like what what do we think is more tragic 2 000 people dying crazy death or like this rich asshole neglecting, you know, handling of this submersible and then just like putting people at risk 80 times. 88 times. Hey, Yeti. Oh, 88 times. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Here we are. Uh-oh. Here we are. Yo, that's, dude, that should have been their red flag. They should have had you undone. Yeah, I have 88. Bingo. Yeah. Yep. That's insane, bro. What a crazy coincidence. To answer your question, dude, I mean, that's kind of tough. It is, right? Because there's so many more people that were affected OG. Right. And it's not like they got onto a ship that was full of issues. Right. To our knowledge. You know, everything that's been talked about about the Titanic ship was it was a beautiful ship and everything worked and everything was good. Big, beautiful ship. Yes. It was a big, beautiful ship. It was just the damn iceberg. Yeah, no, it was just the iceberg. To me, that's sad because everybody was enjoying their trip. Right. I hate that for them it happened in the middle of the night. Yeah, because when you're out there on the ocean, you see nothing. Right. And when you watch the movie, granted, it's a movie based on reality. It's not real. It's fake news. But the history that we know about it is somebody on the ship- Uh, I forget who he was, but he was like, if we, if we, you know, maintain speed, we can arrive early and you know, like we could get there right before the morning and blah, blah, blah. And like, that wasn't the original plan. The original plan was to slow down at night so they can get, have a better eye on the, on the icebergs. So like you got, you got that kind of mishap mixed with like fog and. human error. Let's be honest. You got some kids up in the eagle's nest watching. Getting drunk. Who knows? You really don't know. It's the fucking 1900s. Anything could have happened. And only so much records were kept. We have a good idea of what likely happened, but there are little variables that we just don't know. We had to fill in the blanks. Because anybody that was there, well... I mean, you have a few survivors that got off on those lifeboats. And obviously, that was... a little bit of arrogance on their part as well because they thought that the ship was unsinkable which led to not enough lifeboats because they didn't want it to be this eyesore of, you know, look at all these lifeboats that are on this thing. Are you sure this thing's safe? Wait, can we talk about how that's a problem too? Like, I'm tired of these rich people being like, yeah, I don't really like that because it's not my thing. Who gives a shit if you like it? Like, I don't give two fucks if you think it looks dumb. Like, that's crazy. And you know what's funny is even in my line of work, it's interesting that I can tie this into that. But in my line of work, I do utility work, obviously, for those of you listening that don't know. But there are so many people, especially in the more high-end communities. Privileged group. Yeah. The gas meter is the company's. property right so like if anything were to happen they need to get access to it these people are like, it's an eyesore. So they plant like these massive trees or rose bushes right in the front of them. And now we got to dig through it just to get to our property. And I'm like, you fucking dick. That's crazy. It's crazy, but that's actually insane. Yeah. Cause they're like, this looks, this looks ugly on my house. Well, it's not supposed to look good. It's supposed to give you your fucking gas. That's all it's doing. It's a tool. Who cares what the fuck it looks like? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so, so there's, ways around that, right? There could be better ways than to just slap some bushes around it. Yeah, you can get some wood fencing or something like that. Yeah, you can build a structure to surround it and then have access for those like you who need to come and maintain them. There are people that do that. It looks almost like an extension of their house. It'll literally be made of siding and they'll have shingles on top of it to protect it and have one little hole where you can actually still read the meter, and you can remove it off of it if you need to get to it. Do you have to use a controller, like a PS2 controller, to work on it? I have to use the PS5 controller. Remember, Grizz, we have updated. My bad, my bad. It's 2025, man, keep up! But no, there are other ways around it. So at the time that this happened, was he using... The newest controller? No. I think it was a PS4. Yeah, a PS4 controller. Pretty sure. But if I'm being 100% with you, the PS4 controller looks awful. Well, there's a funny meme that's floating around where it shows all the different controllers from Nintendo, Sony, Xbox. And Sony's on the top and says, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Xbox is like, it's okay for a little bit of change. And then Nintendo's like, what the fuck is... They're like, who fucking cares? Yeah, because each one is vastly different. Vastly different! like we're looking at you in 64 exactly we love fucking change yeah who the fuck thought of that like they have the joystick in the middle and then these deep the d-pad that had like no use whatsoever why do we have this wait hold on i know this is a tangent but it's a question that must be asked how did you hold the n64 on the outsides or did you hold one hand on the middle yeah Interesting. Interesting. So I'm crazy. I held it on the outside. It would just stretch my thumb to the joystick. No, my hands are not big enough for that. Not quite sure what to do with my hands here. Just put them to your side, Ricky Bobby. Oh, okay. Oh, shit. But anyway, to get back on track, to answer your question, Grizz, because I know we've taken a very long detour, I would probably say that both incidents have their tragedy behind it. Like Stockton knew better and lied to a lot of people to get them into this fucking death tube, and I absolutely hate it for them, and that's where I'm I'm like, that's the tragedy. He basically took your... Yes, they're top 1%. They're the people that can afford to do that, but still, you don't deserve to be... They're still people. Right, they're still people, and you don't deserve to be lied to to get on something like that. The Titanic obviously had... Did it have problems? No. Did it have some things that were overlooked because they thought it was unsinkable? Sure. As you said, Grizz, human error. Human error. It was hubris, mostly, that brought the fucking shit down. So it's like, they're both tragedies in their own right, but for me, I'm going to go off and say that Titanic is going to be just a little bit more of a huge tragedy. Because, like you said, there were a lot more people involved in something that could have been avoided, maybe. Possibly. We don't know. As opposed to Stockton Rush, who just was like, we might make it, we might not, but, you know, hold on. Hold on, we're going. The clue's in his surname, right? He's just rushing on down there. Exactly, exactly. No, I think I'm with you, Jay. I think that the Titanic is more tragic, but the fact that the ocean gate even rivals it is insane. No, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. What's up? What's up Yeti? Speak your mind. No, no, no, no. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just thinking about everything that we've been talking about. And I mean, you're hitting the nail on the head with everything that's being said, you know, it's, it's crazy to think that this, I'm going to use this word. I don't like using little accident. or whatever you want to call it, rivals such a big accident. Yeah, yeah. And I think that's where it is hard to call the Titan sub an accident. Because, again, an accident is something that is unexpected. For me, for me, an accident is something that is unexpected. Like, I don't expect to hit my toe every morning when I walk, when I wake up coming out of bed, right? But if I cut the corner a little too sharply and I hit my toe, I accidentally stubbed my toe. I didn't go up and kick the fucking door. For me, Stockton literally was like, hey, I wonder... Kick! Ah! Yeah, that does hurt. This will hurt my toe. Right. Fuck. Hey, engineer, how do I kick this door without it hurting my toe? Exactly. Try steel toes. No. No, no, no. I don't want to wear steel toes. I don't like that. I don't like that idea. I'm going to try this again tomorrow morning and see if it changes. What?

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That's the type of shit Stockton Rush was on. So for me, it is hard to call it an accident, but it is an accident for the most part, right? I mean, at the end of the day. 100%. There were four other people on there that had no clue what the fuck was going on with it. It was an accident for them. Yes. It was an accident for them. For him, it was just a... Will we, won't we? Exactly. It was another Tuesday. Another flip of the coin. He was like, you know what, guys? I make my own luck. Bruh, stop watching Batman. Where's Harvey Dent? Exactly. Harvey, Harvey, Harvey Dent. But anyway... Good talk. Anybody for our listeners that are curious, again, we are talking about the documentaries on the streaming services, one on Netflix called Titan, the other is on Max called Implosion. If you are curious and just want to really hate somebody for the next three hours of your life, take a look at those. Take a look at those documentaries. It's interesting. Again, they're similar in the stories they tell with Stockton Rush, but they do the Netflix Netflix version focuses again a lot on the fuckery that happened in Ocean Gate and the Max side shows more of the investigation which was really interesting to see which obviously is ongoing and I'm sure will be some time before anything actually happens with Ocean Gate and I'm sure that's probably gonna be just as big as the Diddy trial if not bigger so we have that to look forward to Speaking of documentaries. I got a question, though. The word Titanic, it's a funny word to me. Because it's big? No. Or because it has tits in it. Yeah, so how come we pronounce it that way? Like, for example... I can't believe that I nailed that. You did. You know what's crazier? That was a blind leap. He fucking crushed it. That was an Assassin's Creed leap of faith from the top rope, dude. He's like, yeah, absolutely. He has tits in it. It ends with N-I-C. Titanic ends with N-I-C, so shouldn't it be called Titanic? No, it's Titanic. No, Titanic. No, it's Titanic. See, fun fact is, we don't really have a lot of recordings from back then. There you go. So there probably was at least a few people going around being like, hey, I'm going to catch a ride on the Titanic. On the Titanic. On the Titanic. I'm going to get on the Titanic. Titanic. Titanic. Titanic. Titanic. No, that's not how that works. That's not how that works. That's not how that works at all. Oh, okay. Oh, well. Missed opportunity. I'm sorry, guys. I tried. I asked my wife that last night, and she just shook her head and went to bed. Appropriate. Appropriate reaction to that. Because Yeti, if it was up to Yeti, he would have painted... I gotta wake up in the morning. If it was up to Yeti, he would have painted a big old pair of tits on the Titanic. He'd be like, it is now the Titanic. No. Titanic. Unseekable Titanic.

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Yes.

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Ooh, can I rub them? Can you imagine? No, they have barnacles on them. Right. Can you imagine christening that kind of ship? Don't hit my titties. I don't need to bring motors because I can just have people motorboating. Motorboating, son of a bitch. And we're moving. Nice. Nice. It's amazing how we can go from a serious conversation to jokes in like 2.5 seconds. Yeah. Oh, shit. So yeah, take a look at those documentaries if you're curious. And yeah, let us know how you feel about everything that you learn. Are you cool with what he did? I hope you're not. Would you sign up? Yeah, no shit. Would you sign up for something like that? Because I'm going to tell you right now, that's a no for me, dog. Yeah. Yeah, just fire off in the comments. Let us know your thoughts on all of that. With that being said, who wants some fun and games? Let's do it. So, I have a couple of options. Hang on, let me get to it first. Okay. I'm going to give you a couple of things here, and I want to know... There are some discontinued items from McDonald's that I'm going to list for you. And I... Le gasp. I want to know which discontinued item you would bring back if you could. Ooh, I love this game already. All right. So, first up, we have the fried apple pie. Then we have the Cheddar Melt Sandwich. Then the Big and Tasty. The Steak and Fries. The Arch Deluxe. Or the Mixed Salad Shakers. The Mixed Salad Shakers were like in a cup, right? Yes. So which of those did you have? They were good. Who's really going to McDonald's for that product? They still have salads. They do still have salads. Right, but if someone is like, I really wish I had a salad that I could put in my cup holder, they're not going to McDonald's. To be fair, listen, I understand that, but to be fair, with all this healthiness going on and people on these health kicks, you would be shocked. Honestly, I can almost guarantee you that there are more people than we even care to realize would be more than happy to have uh mick shakers back and to be honest with you i could actually that's my stripper name to be honest what shaker i could obviously find myself falling into that category to be honest with you because there's times mc shaker there's times where i just want something light and that's perfect Oh, yeah. That's fair. Honestly, I just remember the McSalad Shakers just being so convenient, number one. Because literally, you just pour that shit in there, shake it up, you have a whole fucking salad in a cup. And I'm like, what? That is nice. I feel like I've seen that around here in Seattle. It still exists, just not for McDonald's. Okay. Right. Some of the bodegas, there's this place... I forget the name of it, but they do a bunch of green stuff. They're known for being the salad place. Gotcha. I feel like I've seen a tall cylindrical version of that. Me, personally, I think I want the fried apple pie. Oh. Because you can tell. When they brought out the baked apple pie, I was like, I want my deep fried apple pie. Come on. There's apples in it. It's called counter the friedness. Exactly. Hello. Come on. No, that's a good pick because those fried apple pies. They should at least offer it. Have the baked and then have a fried. Offer the fried apple pie. No, I'm with you. Yeti, what would you bring back? It's tough. No, it's tough because I lean toward the McSalad Shakers, whatever they're fucking called. But the Big and Tasty, though. That motherfucker slaps. Don't lie. That's your stripper name, isn't it? Big and Tasty? Hell yeah, it is. And I guarantee you he is worth 99 cents. Every penny, daddy. Every penny. I'm kidding. No, I think it's going to be the fucking Big and Tasty, bro. Okay. I mean, it's just, it was so simple yet so good. Yeah. I feel like the Big and Tasty was almost McDonald's counterpart to the Whopper. 100% because what was on it because what they have now is like the quarter pounder supposed to be the Whopper-ish kind of sort of no because it doesn't have lettuce they do the Whopper doesn't have lettuce yes Whopper does does it? lettuce tomato onion you can get a quarter pounder with cheese deluxe you can get a deluxe that is basically the big and tasty now so i mean whatever but for me i'd have to agree with yeti the big and tasty because the big and tasty every time as a kid every time we went that's all i ever fucking ordered it's all i got ask yeti he fucking knows hey you know you know what a good hack It was only 99 cents. That's why I said he's probably only worth 99 cents. That's crazy work. This was 100% supposed to be the fucking Junior Whopper. What's the present? The Whopper. Oh, yeah. Excuse me. A good McDonald's hack for anybody out there that really likes McDonald's. They probably already know the hack if they're McDonald's enthusiasts. Oh, for sure. But you can get the McDouble And then substitute mustard and onion for mac sauce. Yep. And it's basically a Big Mac without the middle bun. So way back in the day, I don't know if they offer it now. I don't think they do. But if you did order a double cheeseburger, they actually did have an option if you went in to make– your, your, uh, substitutions or whatever, they had a like Mac button. So literally you just, Oh, that's cool. Yeah. You hit like a Mac and it sends it back to the kitchen to where it lets them know, okay, they want Mac sauce, onion, lettuce, cheese, pickles, all that kind of basically what comes on a double cheeseburger. We got to bring that back. Hey, Ronald, if you're listening now, bring that, bring that button back. Do you guys remember when they had, they came out with three versions of the big Mac? Yes. Vaguely. Didn't they have, like, a mini Mac and, like, a Mega Mac? Yeah, it was like, yes, yes, yes. And I... Hey, do you guys remember... Motherfuckers. No shit. Do you guys remember the chicken Big Mac that McDonald's had for a little bit? That was atrocious. Bro. You can say what you want. Did you try it? My God, it was so good. Okay. Okay. Hold on. Pause. I think I got done dirty. I think I, I think I got yesterday's chicken patties. I took one bite of that thing and it was like, Oh yeah. I was like, nah, this is the worst thing I've ever had. I literally, I've never not finished food at McDonald's. I didn't eat it. Really? I was like, nah, I'm good on this. It was just, It was like eating... It was bread, lettuce, mac sauce, cracker. Bread, lettuce, mac sauce, other cracker, bread. If it was that crispy, that's a problem. Because every time... Dude, it was not an... It felt like they put two hockey pucks in there. I want a fucking Big Mac now. There you go. You're welcome. You're welcome. Two all-be-petty-petty sauces. Like, I just looked it up. It was called the Mac Junior. Then you had the normal Big Mac. And then you got the Grand Mac. The Grand Mac. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. I remember that. But no, like, that chicken Big Mac. Grand Mac Flash. Yeah, no shit. That chicken Big Mac, though, like, it tasted like, It was just a giant chicken nugget. It was like their chicken nuggets on the Big Mac because the breading they had on that chicken was the same breading the chicken nuggets had. It wasn't the same as the big chicken. It wasn't the same as the crispy chicken. It was its own chicken. And when I had it, I was like, it tastes just like a fucking chicken nugget. I was like, these sons of bitches. That's what they did. That's what they did. They enlarged the nugget, put it on a Big Mac. That's funny. Let me ask you, have you ordered the McChicken and then added mac sauce to it? Yes. Never. I've never done that. That doesn't sound good to me at all. It's delicious. Alright, so this conversation is for Jay and I only. Yeti, you can play on your phone for the next couple minutes. Take a nap. Because That's why I was so disappointed when I had that chicken mac. Because I will often get the McChicken because it's like the only thing that's like close to a dollar anymore. It's no longer a dollar here in Seattle. It's like a dollar and you have to give blood or some shit. You don't have the dollar menu over there in Seattle? I don't think they know what a dollar is anymore. The closest thing that we know to a dollar is Starbuck. But anyway, I digress. So I would get the McChicken and then I would add mac sauce because the app makes it so easy. You just press a check mark and it's good to go. And so I was like, oh, I want to try that. I order it under delivered. Like I'm telling you. I must have pissed someone off. Probably. I must have been like, fry them bitches again. Because it was harder than rocks. I was so pissed. I was so disappointed. So I guess my question is going to be this. Excuse me. What time are you ordering these? Is it afternoon? Is it late? The only time I tried it, I wouldn't say it was late, but it was... It was after your typical dinner rush, but, like, before 10 o'clock. Okay. So, like, it was, like, between 6 and 10. Like, it wasn't late late, but it was probably, like, 7 or 8. I'm just curious if it was, like, maybe you caught him right after a rush or something and you were just getting, like, left over shit. Maybe. Yeah, or, like, maybe there was, like... the the last couple patties they had on the fucking slider right you know what i mean that little plastic tray that they put them in maybe they just been sitting in there and just got dried or some shit like so so i do i try to give things benefit of the doubt but like that i was like i'm not even gonna try it again i was so mad i was like no never again i'm not getting i'm not getting caught twice Fool me once, that's it. So I don't know if you know about this. I don't know if you know this about me, Grizz, but my very first job was working at McDonald's. So anything that you've tried on their menu, save for all the new stuff, I've probably tried. You've already made. Bro, I was probably the originator. They're making shit that you're like, dude, I used to do that shit when I was like 17. Swear to God, when they came out with the fucking snack wraps, we were so pissed because we used to have much bigger breakfast burritos. And I miss them so fucking much. Same. Legitimately, they used to have. Because now they're like Midgey. No, they're little. Can I say Midgey? I don't know. Listen, we can say that. You already did. What do you mean? So they had come out with a new breakfast burrito that literally was like, it was almost the size of a Chipotle burrito. And it was like, it was made with, it was one slice of cheese, but you cut it in half. And then you had a sausage that you cut in half and you put in the middle. And then they had this mix that was like potatoes, eggs, and, you know, a couple other things, like some onions, green peppers. And then you put that on there, and then they had a Roja sauce. And oh my God, it was the best fucking breakfast burrito McDonald's ever made. so they had bigger tortillas and what we used to do was take their chicken selects and we'd put the chicken selects on there and then like honey mustard or ranch or barbecue sauce with lettuce tomato and bacon and we had snack wraps before snack wraps were a thing and then snack wraps came out and we were like these motherfuckers so there's my royalty right I had a similar thing happen to me at Burger King with what so Okay so We used to take like the I took like the hamburger bun The smaller one not the whopper size the small one I'd get three This is when they had Their chicken tenders were Slightly different back in the day They were a little bit They weren't like super super long but they were a little bit More long than they were wide They were like oblong right Yes yes So what I would do is I would Put three of those bad boys on the bun I'd get a top bun, put lather up some mayo, and their barbecue sauce. And I would put that bitch together. And it was fucking delicious. I kid you not. I kid you not. Probably about six to seven months after I did it, they came out with them. What? Somebody was watching. It was a very simple sandwich, too. And I think they sold it for like 99 cents. And they said, hey, this looks so fucking good. Somebody made it, tried it, and said, this man right here knows how to make a sandwich. So we're going to steal his idea, and he ain't going to see a fucking dime. I'm waiting for Subway to steal my sandwich that I've been making there. So Subway used to have buffalo chicken on the menu, right? Yes. And they discontinued their buffalo sauce. They no longer carry it. And they've replaced it with a creamy sriracha. Okay. So I am a creature of habit and don't like new things sometimes. So I was in there and dude was like, we only got one bottle of hot sauce left. I'm the only one that orders the buffalo chicken. So he was like, I'll keep it in the back of the fridge for you. I tore through this. bottle i was the only person to order the sandwich i had it for a good like two months you know because like i just i just go to subway uh for lunch when i when i'm working at the hotel and um we get through it he's like now we're out of the buffalo sauce he's like we do have this creamy sriracha would you like me to like basically make the same sandwich using creamy sriracha see if we like it and i was like yeah let's do it we did it and now like when i go in there the subway that i go to Almost all the employees, I walk in, they're like, spicy chicken? And I'm like, spicy chicken, let's go. So I'm trying to get this damn sandwich named after me, like the grizz monster or some shit. I mean, I would just, I'd try to make it like, you know, sometimes less is more and just call it the grizzly or some shit like that. But I don't know. I mean, they'd have to put your face right next to it. They would need his face. 100%. Yeah, they'd need his face and that beard right next to it. Uh-huh. So look at that. Trip down memory lane. Y'all are welcome. So you heard what we would bring back. Fire off in the comments which discontinued item from McDonald's you would bring back if you are, you know, if you want to. Now, who wants a fun fact? Let's hear it. Did you know... Did you know... Y'all ready for this? That deaf people are known to use sign language in their sleep. Is that equivalent to sleep talking? So... That's a crazy joke. That is a crazy joke. It's a good joke, but it's a crazy one. But... He's kind of not wrong. So do deaf people do sign language in their sleep? Let me read this to you. Anecdotally, some people who've learned sign language do occasionally use it in their sleep. There's not a lot of scientific data, but one 2017 case study describes a 71-year-old man with a severe hearing impairment who also had rapid eye movement or REM sleep behavior disorder. This involves a loss of paralysis during REM sleep, and the man was observed signing fluently The researchers could even get an idea of what he was dreaming about by decoding his signs. So he was basically signing. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, he was basically signing what he was seeing in his dreams. I'd freak out and think you were claiming a set. You know what I'm saying? Yo, man. You just flushed up crib. What, cuz? This is my hood. This is my block. What's wrong with you? Come on now. Why did you murder this man? Man, we were sleeping and he flashed up blood. Yeah, he threw up all kinds of gang signs. I didn't know what to do. I was worried. But there's your fun fact. Fire off in the comments on how you feel about that if you're hearing impaired. Let us know, like, Has anybody ever mentioned that to you? If they ever caught you doing that in your sleep? Do you know if you do that in your sleep? Let us know. We are interested in hearing your stories. Want to know what I do in my sleep? I don't. No. Two no's. That means you can't share. Come on. Come on. One person say what. I tell you what. I tell you what. You write it down. No. No. No. No. You will laugh when I tell you what I do. Oh, my God. I don't even want to know. You know what? I'm going to regret this. Yeah. But do it. I have an evil laugh. You know, I didn't expect that. That's so underwhelming.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 2:11:12

What'd you say, Jay? I said that's so underwhelming. I have an evil laugh. Okay, so you laugh evilly in your sleep. Like you have some sort of fucking evil genius plan to take over the world. Oh, no. He's like, one million dollars. Okay, let me change it. It's more like a scary laugh. It's more like a scary laugh. And when I laugh, I scare Emily. And I want sharks with freaking laser beams on their head. Could you imagine Sharknado with that? No, that'd be kind of scary. But no, that is pretty crazy that you have a fucking evil laugh while you're sleeping. Because I will say, if I ever heard that in the middle of the night, Burn the whole house down. Burn it down. Start anew. What's crazy is Emily's used to it, but it scares her for a little bit. But she'll be like, You laughed again last night. I'm like, oh, sorry. Well, you know what? Tell her I give her permission to just sock you while you're sleeping. Whenever you laugh very evilly. Because that's evil, right? You gotta get the evil out. So just hit him as hard as you can. True. I rebuke you! She's exercising the demons, bro. Wow. I rebuke you! I rebuke you! I rebuke you. That's crazy. She busts out the whole exactly go sleep on the fucking couch so anyway I know we're coming up to time so lastly I think we're actually over a little bit but lastly what I want to mention here's what I want to mention top listening area for the month is anybody curious Yeah, let's do it. Germany. I don't know. He said Germany. So, Grizz, you're not wrong. Germany is, but they're tied. They are tied. Hang on, let me go to locations. So they are tied. Again, I always do just the last five episodes just to get a really good idea on what the top five are. We don't have a top five. I mean, we do, but we don't. So everybody's kind of tied for the top three, right? So we have two places tied for the first spot, and that would be Dayton, Ohio and Frankfurt, Germany. Our German friends are still listening. And for second place, we have one, two, three, four places tied for second place. Whoa. And that would be Edgewood, Kentucky, Lakeside, California, Westerville, Ohio, and Columbus, Ohio. It's so weird places. It's random spots. I love it. And then we have four tied for third place. And that would be Port Washington, Wisconsin, Xenia, Ohio. Still don't know who the fuck is listening in Xenia. Knoxville, Tennessee, and Louisville, Kentucky. Okay. I'm concerned about Knoxville, right? Because I... Oh, wait, no, never mind. I'm thinking of Fort Knox. That's in Kentucky. I just remembered that. I was going to be like, what FBI agent is listening? No, no, no, no, Tennessee, Tennessee, Tennessee. This is so... How bad? It's all random. But no, it is, but people are listening. That's crazy. People are listening, and I'm sure they want to hear that we recognize that, we see that. Who would listen to this shit? I hope a lot of people. The coolest people... On the motherfucking planet. Thank you, Chris. Jesus Christ. What do you mean? Who would listen to this shit? I listen to it. I hope everybody else listens to it. If not, it is what it is. With that being said, please do not forget, if you do listen to us on Buzzsprout, we have an option to text us. There's a little text us thing right above the description that you can just click on, and it'll pop up this little box, this little thing to communicate with, just like texting on a phone. And you can be like, hey, guys, love your work, or y'all suck, get off the air. Just give us something. Let us know how we're doing. We love feedback, right? Whether good or bad. Let us know how we're doing, and maybe we can read shit on air. We can let you know that we're reading that, too. Just give it a go. Let us know what's going on. We'll wrap this up with a pretty little bow. Please join us next time in the next two weeks. This is where I'm going to say, because when we did our... volunteering at the air show, Yeti, our buddy Pat brought up a really good topic for next show that I want to use about scammers. Fishing texts, emails, phone calls, because Okay, so I read a few for Pat and Yeti while we were going up there. I'm not going to, but it just depends on the mood that I'm in, on if I want to interact with these things. And I'm telling you right now, I'm going to read a few on the air. Just so you have an idea, Grizz, on how I fuck with these people. Nice. I think you'll find it fun. But we can talk about scammers and if you've ever interacted with them or what have you, what to look out for, all that kind of shit. With that being said, don't forget Magic Mind. If you would like to try it for yourself, please visit www.magicmind.com and use our discount code FMJPOD20 again for 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one-time purchases. But until then, say ta-ta to your fans. Peace out, bitches. 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