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SPEAKER_04:This is sweet, baby J. What you just said written on paper.
SPEAKER_07:This is my paper. It is the biggest spider I've ever seen in my life.
SPEAKER_08:This is great.
SPEAKER_02:I put it off here and I'm going to drag it then.
SPEAKER_08:This is the Eric. Yeah. At least I know two plus two is fire. And this is the FNJ.
SPEAKER_02:He's got the uh that like meme from with the the Kermit meme where it's like Kermit and then Kermit with the hoods.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, dark Kermit, evil Kermit.
SPEAKER_02:Do it!
SPEAKER_04:Do it. Do it. Do it. Oh shit. Alright. Well, if we if we know if we know what we're talking about. Everybody know what we're talking about? Is it butts? The old mother. It could be. Maybe it's your mom's butts. Maybe it's Maybelline. Maybe it's Maybelline. Or maybe she was born with it. Okay. If we are ready to if we're ready to go. Hang on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Smells like sandwiches. Welcome back to another beautiful episode of the FMJ podcast where we make all of your wildest fantasies come true. I'm just kidding. We do not do that unless you write a very strong worded letter to the WWE asking why the hell did you do John Cena that way? Brother. He lost his final match.
SPEAKER_07:He tappy tapped.
SPEAKER_04:He tappy tapped out of his final match.
SPEAKER_07:I mean, we can talk about that later. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04:That's crazy.
SPEAKER_07:I have some opinions. He said, I have thoughts.
SPEAKER_04:That's not the subject at hand. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. So um, with that being said, uh, just just before we get too into this, just so we're clear, we posted our 100th episode on our last episode. So there you go. Yay! This is gonna be episode 101. What? We're over a hundred episodes deep in this, guys. That's over 100!
SPEAKER_01:Vegeta, what does the scouter say? It's over 100.
SPEAKER_04:I am so glad everybody was in on that. That's pretty dope. But no, I think that's uh pretty big milestone for us. So, you know, I think I think we deserve a little bit of like a round of applause, right?
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Way to go on 100 episodes.
SPEAKER_07:I'm proud of all of you.
SPEAKER_04:FMJ. No, seriously, you should be proud. We we should all be proud of the of the of the work we've done here, because 100 episodes, that's a lot. That's a lot of work.
SPEAKER_07:And none of us have ever cuffed anybody out. Not once.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, and we let's go around the room and get some pulses.
SPEAKER_07:Not out loud, anyway.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hang on, Templeton. You had to do that right because for the joke. So well. Not not out loud. Let's go with uh, you know what, Yeti. Let's check your pulse. Let's see if he gets it right today. That's right. We're gonna see 27. 27 if Yeti gets this right today. What does your polls look like?
SPEAKER_07:27.
SPEAKER_04:Four. Four? Damn. Wait a minute.
SPEAKER_01:That's like wins the Bengals have. I'm gonna probably damn Grizz coming in hot. Listen, you leave my team alone, Jay.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, Jay. Does that make you the oldest sibling now?
SPEAKER_04:Uh I think so. Yeah. That's what that would mean. I now take up the mantle. I have to put that cowl on. So four, what is that? Like the temperature it is outside right now?
SPEAKER_08:No, of course not.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, of course it is.
SPEAKER_08:What?
SPEAKER_06:That means he's drunk.
SPEAKER_00:It is Sunday.
SPEAKER_02:No, and the bingos are four and nine. They are four and nine. I'd be drunk too.
SPEAKER_08:Listen, I'm just confused.
SPEAKER_04:Why you know what that's okay? Maybe maybe next time. So anything, anyway. Anything new with you right now?
SPEAKER_08:I'm trying to think. No, not really. I mean, just chilling. Um, I do have a question. Already. Yeah, what's up, homie? How is baby Yeti? Uh, she is good. She's fussing right now. I can hear, I had to I hear her up there. Good question. Screaming, making a fuss right now. I think uh Mama Yeti is trying to get her to sleep, and she ain't having no part of that right now. That was gonna be my second question. How is Mama Yeti? Oh, she's good. I mean, to be honest with you, like, she's not really that fussy, even though I just said she's fussing right now. But um, like for the most part, like she's pretty laid back, chill baby. Like, and Jeremy has seen it in action. We have I'm going to use the word torture, torture her, but we did not torture her, okay? Like, we were we had gone to go, we went to uh pumpkin patch, and she had a blowout. Um, so we had to change the outfit. Um we had a headband we wanted to put on her, and that was giving us trouble. It was cold outside. We were trying to figure figure out how to keep her warm. And if it was if it was me, I would have been yelling at you guys for fucking with me for that length of amount of time. Nothing. But she was just like laughing, just smiling, like, okay, what are we doing? And yeah, so again, we got lucky, and I don't think she really and she's teething right now. Her her first little tooth is starting to break skin, and uh, and and she's not fussy about it. She doesn't have a fever, she's not crying, she's not nothing. And it's just the only reason why we know she's she started teething is because of the amount of drool that is coming out of her mouth.
SPEAKER_04:Ah, I drool on a uh on a regular basis.
SPEAKER_08:That's because you're teething on the box.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, yeah, you're teething, plain and simple. No, no, no, no. New question. Yes. How does she feel knowing that she has more hair than 75% of this podcast?
SPEAKER_03:Damn. She's gonna wait, wait, who is who's the other one?
SPEAKER_04:Listen, I think it'd be half of the podcast.
SPEAKER_07:No, no, no, no. Grizz is the only one that has actual hair.
SPEAKER_04:That's very rude. Because if I let my hair grow out, it is it looks a lot more than this. I mean, if but this is by choice. I can I can I can see you. I can see you. This is by choice.
SPEAKER_08:Mine's by choice, too.
SPEAKER_04:Not all of it. Not all of it. Not all of it.
SPEAKER_08:Just don't look right here. Just don't look here.
SPEAKER_04:See, this is how it looks.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, look, all that my hair is.
SPEAKER_04:This is how we do it. Do you have hair?
SPEAKER_07:No, I do not. Does she know that? Like, she's she's like yeah, more hair than all of us.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I mean, she is she's just starting out, so yeah, she probably will have more hair than than all of us. She probably will.
SPEAKER_08:All I know is is is, and I'm not trying to like brag or like overly brag, but like she's a little cutie pie. Humble bra. Everywhere she goes, she just steals the attention all the time. So she gets her looks from mommy.
SPEAKER_03:So that's that's from mommy yeti.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, mommy yeti. Definitely not the hair. Yeah, definitely. Definitely not the hair. No, definitely not the hair.
SPEAKER_04:It was it would take one to no one, Templeton. It would take one to no one.
SPEAKER_07:Well, it's good that everything I understand that my like hair loss is genetic.
SPEAKER_04:It's it's good that everyone did you lose your hair?
SPEAKER_07:2. At 22? 22, yes. Okay. I thought okay, Grizz. I thought that's the same. I thought it was three years ago.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, 22.
SPEAKER_04:I was like, that's pretty recent.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, that's that's pretty solid, bro. You said no, I I drank my first alcoholic drink and it my hair started falling out. Yeah. Fuck Jimmy.
SPEAKER_04:Can you imagine? Can you imagine?
SPEAKER_08:Every shot I took, a follicle came out.
SPEAKER_04:Well, there goes another one. Anyway. Well, anyway.
SPEAKER_00:There goes another one.
SPEAKER_04:There goes another one. Here's the here's the balding.
SPEAKER_00:People tell me they say I'm the most bald person ever. A beer a day, hair buckles win.
SPEAKER_07:Wow.
SPEAKER_04:It's big, it's huge, it's gonna be huge. Okay, all right, all right, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. For the joke. And don't be rude. Let's go ahead and just stay. Daddy, I'm calling.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't know he was on the podcast this morning.
SPEAKER_08:We have a special guest.
SPEAKER_01:We gotta stop. We gotta stop.
SPEAKER_08:He took the time.
SPEAKER_00:I just wanted to come on the show today to say that I ran out of money building my ball room.
SPEAKER_06:I'm on a big thing.
SPEAKER_05:What did I just say? Don't be rude.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, Yenny, I'm glad it's I'm glad everything is going great for you. Um, at least it sounds like it's going swell. Um uh Templeton, how about you tell us what your pulse looks like while everybody else gathers gathers themselves from listening to you know I just got here, but I gotta go. Just want to let you know. You guys have been doing great. You guys your podcast is cute. I love it. Best podcast ever. I gotta go. I can't.
SPEAKER_01:I can't ignore it. Yeah. We're cosign? We just got cosigned. We are official. Oh shit.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, Tobleton.
SPEAKER_01:What's up? POTUS approved. What you what's your pulse look like?
SPEAKER_07:What pulse?
SPEAKER_04:Uh, I don't know. The one that's keeping you alive right now. Okay.
SPEAKER_07:I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't have like a device or anything, but I think it might be like 281-330-8004.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's it's a phone number. It sure is. So, you know, those of you listening, I guess call it future days. So again, just give that a call and see what happens. And and you know what? Report back.
SPEAKER_07:You know what?
SPEAKER_02:I hope that uh can you repeat the job?
SPEAKER_07:By the way, um by the way, if someone if somebody says their name is Mike Jones, when they answer, ignore that.
SPEAKER_03:Who?
SPEAKER_07:Nice.
SPEAKER_02:There's an owl in here.
SPEAKER_03:Who?
SPEAKER_04:Who? Who? Anyway. Doubleton, anything new with you? Anything fun, exciting?
SPEAKER_07:Buddy, it's fucking Christmas season. Nothing is new or exciting.
SPEAKER_04:There's plenty of new and exciting stuff out there, you know? There's snow on the ground.
SPEAKER_07:Like, I was just telling you guys before my computer decided to be fucking stupid. Stupid computer. Almost ten hours of my day that weren't supposed to be a thing. We're a thing.
SPEAKER_04:So fun and exciting.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Merry Christmas, motherfucker. Merry Christmas, you filthy animal. Exactly.
SPEAKER_07:So then we got people like No, then we got people like Yeti and then like Fuck you. Fuck mama. Fuck all your goddamn Christmas gifts.
SPEAKER_04:Hey, wait, wait, wait, let him cook, let him cook.
SPEAKER_07:I'm just saying, that's what I heard.
SPEAKER_04:I thought you knew for sure. I thought you knew for sure that that was.
SPEAKER_07:No, no, no, not for sure. That's what I heard.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_07:Alright. Well, I've only heard no no no, I'm not done yet. When it comes to grizz, I've only heard excellent things.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you.
SPEAKER_04:Thank you. Was that a question? Thank you? Is that a question? Are you are you asking? Okay. Uh anything else other than work and snow? And Yeti apparently saying fuck these customers?
SPEAKER_07:I mean, it's Ohio, so no.
SPEAKER_04:Oh. Alright. Well, good morning to you too. Woke up and chose violence this morning. Ohio. Oh. Anyway. Um, well, I hope I hope everything uh, you know, it gets better for you, Templeton. Uh, we're almost out of it. Okay, the holidays are almost over. You just gotta hold out for a couple more weeks and then uh hopefully everything kind of goes back to. That is true. That's true, because I don't have any any of those managers working for me. So yeah, you're right. You right anybody waiting for you.
SPEAKER_07:You right never mind, never mind, never mind. You have everybody working for you.
SPEAKER_04:That's right. The whole world works for me, sir. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, brother. Well, hopefully, Templeton, every like I said, you just you just gotta get it get through these next couple weeks, and then you sh you should be back to normal. I'm not mad scheduling. Yeah, I I can understand if it's like, you know, frustrating and hectic, cause, you know, Christmas and everybody's, you know, buying this, that, and the other thing, and I need my Christmas presence now, though. You know, you get it. Um but hopefully everything che uh checks out. Chris! Chris!
SPEAKER_01:Yes. What'd your poles look like?
SPEAKER_02:Just checking. It's like a 17 Mississippi. Ooh. Ooh.
SPEAKER_04:How many Mississippis do you need? Ooh, you see that that's that's called a callback for those of you that are listening. You may or may you may or may not hear that at the very end of this episode if you stick around. Make like glue, stick around. Stick around, baby.
SPEAKER_02:So nah, I mean, I've been good, just been working. Um I think I've put in officially a full month in my new position. Or maybe a little over a full month. That's right.
SPEAKER_04:You do have a new position.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think I've gotten I think I've gotten three paychecks, so it's a little over a full month. Okay.
SPEAKER_08:How are you liking them so far?
SPEAKER_02:I'm enjoying it. Uh yesterday uh I what did I do yesterday? Yesterday I wired a LED light into a um like lighting fixture because they can't just swap out.
SPEAKER_05:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:In order to change it, you have to take out the whole uh the whole unit. You can't just like pop out the bulb.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So I had to like cut wires, pull the LED bulb. I spent time um a few weeks back and like wired up LED lights to a w like two two wires, and then I took one of those, put it into the light, wired it in, it works. Great. Success. Um, and then uh I've just been learn like I'm still learning a lot about the hotel and how to um you know fix certain things. I've I'm feeling more and more confident when it comes to like plumbing, HRAC, and electrical, so that's pretty good. Yeah. At least like in the confines of the hotel. Yeah. Like if someone if I was at someone's house, they're like, hey, my my air conditioning is not working.
SPEAKER_04:I I would be like I ain't touching it. Call a professional. I don't know. You know, like yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But uh I do think that eventually I will gain enough information and knowledge that might transfer to residential products, but right now I just mostly know like commercial things. Right, right, right. The electrical, I think, will transfer mostly, but yes, I think the HVAC and plumbing is more um uh commercial stuff at this point.
SPEAKER_04:A lot of that will come with repetition though, because like once you once you get once you get like the commercial stuff down, residential's pretty much the same. It's just much more scaled out of the case. That's true.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, that's very true. Yeah, it and oftentimes it's it's either a more compact, like you said, or um like just simpler in nature because the whole system is smaller.
SPEAKER_08:Yep. Uh yeah, but it's one unit versus multiple the fundamentals are there, right?
SPEAKER_04:Like yeah, the fundamentals are the same. That is one thing I learned in the in in the utility business is once you learn one side of it, again, most of it just comes with repetition. The more you get the more hands-on you get with it, the more confident you'll feel with it, and then you'll get to the point where you're like, all right, because uh in our old before we moved, um the like the stuff that I learned simply just with like furnaces and everything, especially like carbon buildup on like um your flame sensors and all that kind of stuff. I le I learned so much, and like our furnace started doing the thing where it was like the burner. Would come on for a second and then it shut off. I learned that you know you clean that flame sensor off because it got a lot of buildup of carbon on it. You clean that thing off, you're good to go. Instead of calling, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02:A technician, and they're gonna charge you 300 bucks an hour. Yep, yep.
SPEAKER_04:I can just I all I need is some sandpaper and and just lightly get that carbon off of there, and that thing worked for another few years. So it's like, yeah, you know what I mean? Um it's repetition, getting your getting hands-on, and eventually you will you will be confident enough to be like, okay, I'll you know, I can do that, but never ever try to overextend yourself. That is important, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.
SPEAKER_02:For it like always, I think the one thing that I am making a point to do for myself is to know what like where my limits are and what I'm actually capable of.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And like it's like obviously if you think you can do something, try it, but just know where your like point of no return is. And and oftentimes most people don't actually know where that is.
SPEAKER_04:Or they don't care because they're like, you know, you can't do that. Uh no, I don't care. I'm gonna go for it anyway.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, I think some of it is just like uh inflated confidence, yes, right? Yeah, like like it's worked for me, it's worked out for me so far, you know, like that mentality. Yep, and I think that that is a it can be a good thing, but I think uh it can also be a very bad thing, yeah, yeah. Left unchecked, it's it's not a great quality because we we say it all the time.
SPEAKER_04:Um in in our industry, everybody thinks they're an electrician just because they put a couple wires together and the light came on. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02:Dude, there's so much more. Like, okay, like on one hand, electricity is fairly simple in nature, right? Like closed circuit loop, blah blah blah. But there are nuance and there are things that you have to abide by. Like electricity has very specific laws. Um, and I'm not talking governance law, I'm talking like laws of physics. Yes, yes. Uh, yeah, and they have very like in order for it to work properly, certain um parameters need to be met. Uh you can't just like throw some wires at something and go, ah, and and that's that's the point.
SPEAKER_04:Because even though it like like okay, it uh yeah, you're getting electricity to your light bulb and it's coming on, but did you do it the right way? That's why a lot of the a lot of the times if somebody's the right wire, yep, did you use the right size wire? Yeah, because if you're not using the right gate, if it's not enough, yeah, if it's not enough, and that's how house fires happen. That's what that and and and that's the overcompensable.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. Don't do don't do that. So unless you're working with like low voltage products, like LEDs, they don't require a lot of voltage. Five volts at the maybe twelve volts at the max.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's that's really enough, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And like houses, I think on general are what? Houses are 120. Yep. 120 at the lowest, 120 volts. Yeah, and then 240 for like the major appliances. Yep, yep. I think back in the day, houses would receive 240. They they do, they do break. Do they still receive 240 and then and then they convert out at the at the breaker?
SPEAKER_01:At the breaker, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so which I think 240 is enough to fucking kill you. So that's what makes it.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, yes, at the at the wires, at the wires at the meter, absolutely, it's enough to kill you. But in the house, when they step it down, uh people will tell you it won't be.
SPEAKER_02:It'll put you on your ass.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it'll put you on your ass, but it's not gonna kill you as long as it doesn't grab onto you, you know what I'm saying? Because usually the higher.
SPEAKER_02:And that's what has always been like scary to me about electrical. Like when when I've I've talked about in the past, like, oh, I want to build house or I want to build a camper or whatever. And I've always said, like, I can do the construction, but the the electrical and the plumbing, I would want a professional to come in.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But now I'm like, I'm learning that shit. So I'm like, well, maybe I could do it and then just have a professional come in and double check my work.
SPEAKER_04:That would be the best, that'd be the best thing to do, just to make sure that you did everything right, you're up to code and all that kind of stuff, so that way you don't wind up with a mishap.
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, it's for what it's worth, the orange and purple and white trucks that are out there delivering packages, they taught me safety above all.
SPEAKER_04:We're not gonna say any names.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not saying any names, but I'll give you the copy of colors.
SPEAKER_04:Everybody knows who you're talking about.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. But I didn't say the name. You're right. You're right.
SPEAKER_04:But no, that uh I like I I think I think I told you once, um, it's it's good stuff for you to learn. Um just being able to, you know, be handy like that and and and just trades in general, because that's a it's almost like a dying art, and they're uh and they're and they're all hiring all the time. So um for those, yeah. For those of you listening out there, um, if you feel like, and I don't want to make this a whole thing, but just real quick, if you feel like a four-year college is not for you, it's okay to do it like a trade school. It's okay to go go for two years and become a plumber, become HVAC, become something like that, because they do make a lot of money. Just so we're clear. They do. They make they make a lot of money.
SPEAKER_02:It is and it it is hard work, but it's not it's also not as hard as it seems. Correct.
SPEAKER_04:Because once you get it out, easy work.
SPEAKER_02:Easy work. What I like to tell people, because like I don't want to I don't want to undersell anything ever. Unless it's my own artwork, apparently. Uh but um like electrical plumbing, HVAC, like it's it's I like to say it's simple. It's not easy, it's simple. Yes, because it is it is hard work, but it's not as hard as I think people think it is. But it is it is extremely well, maybe I shouldn't say extremely, but it's relatively simple. Right? Especially once you understand the the code, if you will. Um I I that's what I've come to notice. Like it's it's simple and it's it uh there's this like weird beauty in something that is like so um matter of fact, right? Like like if you wire something together and you put the negative on the positive side and the positive on the negative side, it's depending on the polarization, it's probably it might not work. Yeah. So like there's a very specific way of things. Yeah, and like if you go outside of those bounds, it's not gonna work. So there's something about that that I appreciate. I don't know what it is, I don't know why it is. I don't know why I appreciate that uh consistency, I guess.
SPEAKER_04:Well, but uh I mean it's it's a it's pretty direct, right? Like it's a it's very direct, like it's either gonna work or it's not. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I guess you know, it's an analog instant gratification. Yep. You wire you wire light together, you plug it in, it turns on. I did it. You know, like I didn't fire. Right. Exactly. Yeah, it is kind of like rudimentary.
SPEAKER_04:A little bit, a little bit, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that's good. That's good. I'm glad that you're learning a lot of stuff. Continue learning. Um be a sponge. Yeah, yeah. Even even now to this, even now to this day in the field that I'm in, I've been doing it for what, 15 years? Going on 16 now, so it's like I still try to learn as much as I possibly can. So continue doing that. Um, but other than that, I'm glad things are going good for you. Yeah. Two thumbs up.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, bonus, bonus, bonus round. I got the keys to my new apartment. Let's go. After the show, I'm gonna be moving my I'm gonna start moving in. My goal is to sleep there tonight.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. Well, then, then because you're you're off first.
SPEAKER_02:I'm off the next three days.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, technically, he doesn't have to. He could sleep on the ground if he wants to. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, so like I bought an IKEA bed frame. Okay um, not sponsored. Uh and then I I bought shameless plug. Well, it was a Black Friday deal. I got a bed frame for like I think 170 or 150. So here's the thing the mattress and the bed frame were both about the same price, so they were just$20 difference. One was$150 and one was$170. I don't remember which one was which.
SPEAKER_03:Huh.
SPEAKER_02:Um, but the mattress I got from Amahell uh and it was a Black Friday deal as well, and it's just in the box, like it's it's one of those like hybrid foam spring mattresses. Okay, it's a 12-inch 12-inch mattress, and it was dirt cheap. And I was I told myself I just want a bed, so I'm not sleeping on the couch. Right. That makes sense, and I'll just get like the cheapest thing I can find that's like hopefully decent enough. Like I'm I'm telling myself if I can get a year out of this mattress, I'll be cool. Because I I my plan is to and I got a cheap bed frame because I want to build my bed frame. Um, I've been super interested in getting back into building things, and part of that is because of the new job for sure. That makes sense. Um and I don't have my workshop set up right now because I'm still living in an apartment and I just don't have the the space for that type of stuff. But I did find a workshop that I can rent okay at$65 a month, and I can go and it's basically like a community space, and everyone can like they share the tools and you you pay you pay for access to these tools in this workshop. So I'm gonna look into that and uh I really want to build my furniture because there's a lot of stuff I still kind of need. Like I don't have in tables, I don't have a coffee table, I don't have uh uh nightstands. Um so I was like maybe I'll build that shit. I'm gonna start small, but ultimately I want to build my bed frame, which seems relatively easy, and then I also want to build a couch because the couch I have is like a cheap couch that we got from Home Depot, and um I I don't know, I just I feel like I was watching some videos about couches, and I'm like, I could fucking make a couch. Like it doesn't look like it doesn't seem hard, yeah. It doesn't seem to be hard it's a you you build you build a skeleton, right? You build out the you you build the construction bones and then you like from there you're just layering things, right? Right, you know, with foam and and upholstery, yeah. Is that stuff easy? No, no, but like I'm a I'm a forever student and I like to challenge myself. So am I gonna do it perfect? Nah, hell no, which is why I'm going to build like three couches. I'm gonna build my first couch that's like a simple design, very, very simple, very simple. Sorry. Uh I figured I'd build one couch and see how it goes, and then I could step up to okay, let me try one of these other designs. Because I sketched out a bunch of couches I want to try to build.
SPEAKER_08:There you go. There you go. As long as you're not using human skin, you're good. Listen, you can use whatever you want to, right?
SPEAKER_00:Like I mean, like, don't worry about where I get the materials from.
SPEAKER_04:Right, right. It's that's a joke, people. It's a joke. Jesus Christ, lighten up. No, but that that'll be that'll be fun. That'll be that'll be fun. Just just just I hope you your first couch doesn't come out like with a lean. Like it's like it's like at you know what I mean? It's not it's not exactly at 90 degrees, it's like at 88. And you're like, see, you kind of slope to the right just a little bit.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. No, no, no, that's intentional. We call that we call that the shoulderly. This is my shoulder lean couch.
SPEAKER_04:But no, that'll that'll be fun. Um keep us updated on everything that you do, like through the city.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, once I get into that workshop space, it'll probably be in the spring. Cause I I need I want to like make sure that because it like I said, it's a subscription. You pay$65 a month to access it. And I I guess I don't have to do it year round. I can just like pay for a few months at a time and then like turn it off or whatever. If I'm if I find myself not going, cancel the membership or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Right. Um but yeah, once I get back to once I get to a space where I feel like I can go and do that, um, I'll definitely keep you guys updated because I'm gonna start small. I want to like build a start small small smaller things just to like dust uh you know, dust the cobwebs off.
SPEAKER_04:I hear you. Well, I'm glad everybody's doing swell. Um we have a lot, we have a lot to discuss today. Um I'm gonna try to uh we're gonna try to kind of get through this kind of quickly because there's a lot to cover. But entertainment news. There's a lot of entertainment news to get into. Um first and foremost, uh all of our information is coming from the Vidia Game Awards that just recently happened. Um I don't know if anybody watches that stuff or or keeps up on everything like that, but we'll um we'll discuss a few things. Uh Out the Gate, um, Expedition Claire Obscures Expedition 33, one game of the year, in case anybody wanted was curious about that. Um to be fair, it did have some stiff competition. You had other games like um Death Stranding 2 and uh Silksong and a couple other games that were I guess critically they they did really well. So it looked like it was a pretty stacked year, but congratulations to Claire Obscure and Expedition Expedition 33, because from my understanding, it was it's an indie game, and the people that made it were ex-employees of Ubisoft. So Ubisoft is yeah, Ubisoft is probably punching the air right now saying, Why the fuck did we let them go? So congratulations to them uh on the on the big win. Um they announced a new Mega Man game, which if you got to take a look at it, the graphics on that thing, oh my god. It's still gonna be a side scroller. Uh but but the up but the updated graphics, it's no longer like um like the like the uh 8-bit look. It's it's like full 3D animation type deal. It looks good. If you get the opportunity to take a look at some of the gameplay, take a look at it. It I'm kind of like, I'm gonna buy it. Like I love Mega Man, I've always been a big big fan of Mega Man, and hopefully with its success, we might get a new Mega Man X or a new Mega Man Legends, which would be Legends was amazing, would be where I would go that Capcom could have all of my money at that point. Um I'm just saying, yeah. Uh last of us last of us season two won best adaptation. Now, Grizz and I know had a little bit of a conversation about this because we have thoughts. As far as best adaptation, when Fallout was out the same year as season two of The Last of Us, I don't know how that won. I don't know. I don't think I don't even know if Fallout made it as a nominee for best adaptation.
SPEAKER_02:Was Fallout Paramount?
SPEAKER_04:Crazy. Yeah, I know. Fallout was Amazon, I thought.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, was it Prime?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it was Prime.
SPEAKER_02:But but a part of me wondered if like pe if if like uh I don't know how they vote on these things, if it's like people's choice or or or uh a committee, uh committee or whatever, thank you. Uh but if it was Paramount, which it's not, so it doesn't matter, but my thought was if it was Paramount, then maybe that's why people snubbed it, because some people are not happy with Paramount in like you know their the the water they've been floating in recently or whatnot. But yeah, I yeah, that's interesting.
SPEAKER_04:It is, right?
SPEAKER_02:Like I was I was shocked Fallout was good.
SPEAKER_08:Fallout is good. I want to I want to watch it. It was F and dope. Yes.
SPEAKER_02:I want to watch it. I just have a hard time subscribing to a bunch of things when I know I don't have the time to watch things. That's true. So like I just do like like right now I'm just paying for Crunchyroll.
SPEAKER_06:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Uh, you know, and like I've pared down, like I used to have like Netflix. Now Michelle has Netflix, so she's letting me borrow still, but that might change in the near future.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Uh, but I'm also not really watching Netflix that much. I do want to get in on a very specific thing that I think is gonna get mentioned shortly, but uh that's on Netflix. It's a uh documentary of sorts. I wanna I want to hurry up and watch that before I lose access to Netflix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do that, do that, do that. Right right now, right now I've just been like chewing up on Crunchyroll, but I I'll I'll jump over to um prime video and does prime video come with the Prime account or is it extra?
SPEAKER_04:If you pay for Amazon Prime, you get Prime Video. Yeah, you have it. Yeah, you can't.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, then I have Prime Video then. Then jump the fuck over there and shut it up. Yeah. I just signed up for Prime uh because of I Because of reasons. Every every everyone in the podcast knows, but the people listening don't know, and I'm not gonna I don't feel like talking about it. No, that's fair. But my life is changing and things are changing. But um, I have Prime again.
SPEAKER_04:Well, there you go. Um, but yeah, if you have Prime, then you can jump over there and watch uh watch. But that that to me, like like Yeti said, that's crazy with Fallout existing, and I don't like I said, I don't think it even got nominated, which is absolutely wild. But last of us season two, like I said, Grizz and I had some thoughts, had some had some thoughts about that. We're like, best adaptation, like it was enjoyable. Like, don't get me wrong, but as far as best adaptation, they butchered season two. Like, as as a fan of as a fan of the game, just saying. Go ahead, Grizz.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, what they should have gotten was an award for best complete overhaul of a from a video game to TV show.
SPEAKER_08:See now that's interesting because like I said, I don't I I don't play the game, so I wouldn't have known.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, exactly. So that's why I said like that's why I always tell you, especially with like Devil May Cry and The Last of Us. I I I've told you I have two separate reviews as a fan of the game and as a fan of just you know good series. What happened? Yeah, as as a fan of the series, yes, it's good on its own, right? Like it's it's a it's a good series. Is it a great adaptation for for The Last of Us Part Two? No, not without not with all the changes that happened, absolutely not. Yeah. Again, the masterclass was season one. They built they they took that story, stuck with the characters and who they are, and built on that story, especially with the uh uh the Frank and Bill episode. Phenomenal, phenomenal. That was that like season one was a masterclass on how to adapt a video game to just a TV series. I loved that. And then season two came along and just I don't know, they just ruined the fuck out of it. I don't and I and I uh you know what? That's a whole nother discussion in itself. Um Yeah. We also have a control sequel on the way, which this is specifically for me. Um, Yeti, I know I told you, uh Alan Wake 2. I just finished that game. So if anybody is interested, um Alan Wake and Control, and I believe I think it's quantum something, I'd have to look at it again. But those three games, uh, those three series, should I say, are all one universe, like they're all tied together. So Alan the first Alan Wake and then Control, and then Alan Wake 2, and now the control sequel. And they all have like they're all happening in the same universe, just in different different parts of like the United States. So it's really cool, especially catching all the references to the previous games. And and if you're interested in play in trying them out, dude, it's dope. Yeah. Because Alan Wake 2, I don't know, I don't know how you guys feel about uh uh like action horror or a thriller or whatever. Um but Alan Wake 2 had me jump a lot, dude. I was just like there was a there was literally one one of the chapters, I was jumping like every 10 minutes, and like halfway through it, I was just like, I was like, stop. I was yelling at the game. I was like, y'all, y'all need to chill. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03:So if you get especially with like headphones on and shit, dude, you have no idea. Bruh, bruh. When it's like I was like, oh you little mother.
SPEAKER_02:Dude, that's the only way, like if you if you really like that immersion, the only way to play like thriller spooky games, headphones with the lights off.
SPEAKER_04:Absolutely. Now, to be fair, like the speakers that I have for my setup here on my uh computer, like they're they're monitor speakers, so they pick up just about everything because they're they're they're they're made for that, right? So, like, yeah, in that game, especially when you're walking through the woods and you hear like creaking and stuff, it sounds like you're there. And I'm like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_06:Oh my god. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_04:But the sound design on Allen Wake 2, oh my god. Anyway, uh again, another conversation in itself. Uh Capcom uh has a new IP called Prag Mata, and that got a release date. And if you haven't heard about it or seen anything about it, take a look at it. Fucking dope. And last but not least, which I know Yeti was or probably is waiting to hear about this, the Street Fighter trailer for the movie was released. We finally got to see what this movie is going to kind of look like. And I'm here for it.
SPEAKER_08:I'm here for it. Honestly, yes, honestly, and share my thoughts. I'm here for it. They are fucking going, they are leaning all the way in to fucking campy. This is gonna be one of those movies that is gonna be so fucking off the rails, you're gonna it's gonna be over and be like, what the fuck did I just watch?
SPEAKER_04:Yep.
SPEAKER_08:I love it. Yep, it's that's gonna be movies going to fucking be.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, Chris.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so I I can assume that the four of us like a good campy film. Uh yes, you know, like I I like a film that doesn't take itself seriously, you know, for the most part. It can have a serious plot, like for instance, Mortal Kombat, I feel like was serious and campy at the same time. Yep. Uh like like sprinkled in.
SPEAKER_05:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:But the trailer for Street Fighter looks like just like Yeti just said, it's over the top. They're leaning in like the the color grading that they are using. Probably because there's a lot of CGI, if I had to guess. Oh, there is. But I'm okay with that because like the technology's getting better. Um not everything has to be shot and recorded and written like a Christopher Nolan or a Zack Snyder film. Yeah. Where you know, like, don't get me wrong, that was an absolute era. Yeah. Right? Like, like, like Batman Begins, Dark Knight, Dark Knight rises, fucking um Inception. Man of Steel, Inception, those like dark, gritty, kind of like, let's make it feel as realistic as possible. Like, that's cool, but I think whether or not wait, one small question. Do we know who is oh, I remember. Uh the director for Street Fighter is uh someone who usually does comedies, right? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I forget his name, but I remember that I I remember that I kind of know. Sorry. Um, because uh I wonder if they were influenced at all by James Gunn's Superman because that Superman film it like after watching it and ha being um set enough time away from it and like recalling it in my mind, like it absolutely set us in a world where like, yeah, it looks realistic enough because there's people and buildings and whatever, but like Superman, you know, like Superman exists, like like the Green Lantern exists, like these characters that have like these crazy superpowers that seem way more uh fantasy than the Marvel universe that we've been exposed to. Um aside from like Wanda and a couple of these other like more fantastical kind of characters, right? But prior to that, like the MCU has felt more rooted in science, yeah. Grounded things like Iron Man, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Daredevil, like there just seems to be like a more logical explanation for some of the powers, whereas in in the Superman movie, and like some of the DC characters, like they just have fucking laser beams out of their eyes, you know what I mean? Like like monsters are blowing flames out their breath, you know, like and it's just very comic book, and I'm I'm like that Superman movie has potential to be ranked in a campy way, right? And like, I mean when you really when I think about Superman, I think of camp. So getting back to the Street Fighter thing, like I wonder if they in some way are influenced by that. Because even visually, like when um um I don't know, I don't really know Street Fighter characters' names that well, but whoever um uh Jason Momoa is playing, uh Akuma.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yeah, yeah, Blanca. No, no, Blanca, Jason Momoa's Blanca.
SPEAKER_02:Excuse me. Um yeah, so Akuma's Roman Reigns. Oh, okay, okay. Uh the color grading, like the what like just like I don't know how else to explain it. So so so just like the way the screen looked.
SPEAKER_04:So with that, with that being said, if you got if you played Street Fighter 6, which obviously I have, um, a lot of those colors, like the neon kind of look, um, and a lot of it it is in Street Fighter 6 because Street Fighter 6 was actually very colorful. They kind of lean more into because there's a lot of like uh like graffiti art in a way. Like it looks it looks more like that. So that's where I think they pulled a lot of that inspiration from is Street Fighter 6, that game. I mean, that makes sense, yeah. It's it's a very colorful game as opposed to like what it was in the past, where it was like okay.
SPEAKER_08:So have you guys seen ever seen the movie Kung Fu Hustle? Yes, Kung Fu Hustle, yes, it was 2004, yes, it was off the wall karate movie, yes, like just kung fu uh off the wall. That's the vibe I got when I watched it. And the very first time I watched Kung Fu Hustle, it I was just in awe because of what it what it did, what it showed, and I don't know, like I I'm watching, I'm rewatching the trailer right now, the little sneak peek right now.
SPEAKER_04:And yeah, it the kicks, the the throws, the so what I'm the movements I have a feeling, and and this is just me, but I do have a feeling because there's no way that they picked who they picked for Ryu to where Ryu and Ken are not going to be the only like I feel like Ryu and Ken are gonna be the only serious part of this whole entire movie. I I have I have that feeling because if anybody's watched Warrior, oh my god. Dude, dude is like he's legit. Like he is a legit, crazy ass martial art. He is gonna do some because there's a part in that trailer where I'm pretty sure it shows Ryu and Ken. I don't know who they're fighting, but Ryu does the little time. Well, he does his toss, he does this throw like you would do in the game. Yes, he throws him and then Ken kicks him into I'm like, yo, they are gonna fuck some people up.
SPEAKER_02:That is when does that movie due to come out? Oh October of 2026. Yes, yes, yes, yes, October next year. I gotta put I gotta put that on the map because I want to go see that at the IMAX theater.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, oh this is this is 100%. See, and like here's the thing like the opening f the opening flash kick it sends when when when when guy does his his his signature flash kick, he sends his opponent Vega through the wall.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, through the wall straight through the wall.
SPEAKER_08:I mean through the wall.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait. I mean, just through the wall, bro.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. But yeah, see, look at that's Ryu and Ken. That was a flash of Ryu and Ken. Yes. And then like Ryu, can't their storyline, I feel like, is going to be the only serious part of this whole freaking movie. That's Zangeef and and Ryu. Yes. There it is, right there. That was nuts. Right? I'm like, yo, they're gonna fuck some people up. Yes, they got that right. Yeah, where they're where they're beating the car down. Oh my god. I seen that and I was like, yeah, the the the like the the storyline of Ryu, Ken, and Akuma are going to be the only serious part of this whole movie. Yeah. That's it. And I'm good with that. Like, I'm good with that because technically speaking, they really are like the only serious part of that whole entire series. Like Ryu and Ken and Akuma, their whole story is like the one thing, it's like the core story of all of it. Everybody else is just basically side characters. So it'll be interesting to see what they do. Um, yeah. Will I be there? Yes, I will be. I will be there to watch Street Fighter. Like I can't wait. I cannot fucking wait. It's gonna it's gonna be a lot of fun. It'll be a fun movie, I think.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. I think it's just gonna be a fun movie. You're gonna go in there, you're gonna be like, what the fuck did I just watch? Yeah, and then you're gonna look at each other and be like, dude, that was fucking amazing.
SPEAKER_03:That was dope.
SPEAKER_08:But you're gonna be like, what the fuck did we just watch?
SPEAKER_02:I have a crazy question because it's it's kind of impossible to answer at this point. Okay, because you're only gonna I feel like we're only gonna be answering with like our best uh expectations. Yeah. But do you think based on the trailer, this is a movie worth purchasing and having to like watch on repeat, like have have some homies over, make some pizza, watch this movie in the basement type shit? Do you think that that is this type of movie?
SPEAKER_08:To be honest, yes, this is gonna be that type of movie. Yeah, that's what that movie is going to be. That's what I think. It is going to be a it, I think it's gonna go down into the cult classic category. Yeah, I think it's gonna be like I said, it's it's gonna be one of those things where you watch it, and if you watch it, you're gonna know a lot of people that watched it, and it's gonna be something epic you guys talk about. Like it's it's it's just gonna be cool. It's gonna be a can't be cool, and that's the vibe I got from the trailer.
SPEAKER_02:It feels like it's gonna be one of those movies that like they they okay, they know they're not gonna reach everyone, yeah. Right? Like they know they know that like they're not out there trying to compete with Marvel or DC. Oh, hell no. Or you know what I mean? Like, like they're not and like I feel like Hollywood's kind of like found themselves in this little corner of like, all right, we gotta go out there and like put a four-hour movie, and it has to be better than Infinity War or Endgame or whatever, right? And it's like, no, dude, just go make a good movie. Yes, go make a movie, like the movie doesn't have to be the best selling, and I think that that's what has been bothering me about Hollywood lately, is they focus on the money, and it's like, yeah, the money's important, don't get me wrong. But but I would rather have a good ass movie that maybe didn't sell millions or whatever, billions or what whatever the numbers are these days, and just like give me a good ass movie. They don't get that, they don't get it, right?
SPEAKER_04:And and and I think a lot of it we uh again we're big proprietors of um consumers can be a part of the problem, but you said million you said millions or billions, right? It's crazy millions, it's crazy to me, it's crazy to me that the new Superman movie would do like almost 700 million dollars, right? To us, that's a lot of money, yeah. And there are people out there that that actually will look you in the face with a serious face and say that flopped. That flopped at the theaters.
SPEAKER_02:What I got something that'll flop on your theaters because of how much money they spent to make it.
SPEAKER_01:What what do you mean?
SPEAKER_02:That what yeah, because like it like so. Did it make 700 mil? It was like 670 million something three to four wait and let me guess, they probably spent like two or three hundred mil.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, uh probably I think they were uh I think they were upwards of four, four, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So like as a return on investment, if if we want to get nerdy with some dumb fucking numbers, that is probably why they think that. But it's like go miss yourself with that shit. Seriously, I'm like, I it was a good movie, yeah. It was it was a good movie, and it made it made positive money, right? Like, like, like you invested X and you got Y. Shut up, move on.
SPEAKER_04:For for me, for me, a flop is you know, you didn't you didn't make that, or you broke even. If you break even, then I didn't do what I intended to do. But if I make money, I did not flop, I succeeded.
SPEAKER_02:Like I don't come out if it even if you like break even, I still put that in a check in the the success category, just not even not like successful, right? Right, exactly. You you made your money back, you just didn't make enough to make the next movie, right? Right, right. And that's okay. Like your future movie wasn't a success. Yeah, yeah, you know, you you might have to invest again, right? But like they likely won't, right? Like if a movie, if a movie doesn't make its money or breaks even, they often don't go on and try and do a sequel.
SPEAKER_04:Correct, because that that's that's too risky.
SPEAKER_02:So like like that part I get unless it's a passion project, yeah, then I understand the business side, yeah. But the thing that I think these studios suck at oh is remembering that the reason why we make movies in the first place is for entertainment, right? Yeti just found out some information.
SPEAKER_08:The budget was 225 and they brought in 616.
SPEAKER_04:So that's a that's not a flop. I'm sorry, that's not a flop. Yeah, that's not a flop. That's positive. Yeah, what it is doubled your money. What it is is Snyder fans mad because the Snyder verse got cancelled. That's all it is.
SPEAKER_02:What happened is the Snyder fans turned into the yeah, they turned into the monkey bots in Superman.
SPEAKER_08:I bet you Supergirl, I bet you Supergirl breaks that uh that those Superman numbers chart.
SPEAKER_02:So I'm I'm a little nervous about Supergirl. Why? Like because okay, hear me out. I I'm listening. I saw I saw the teaser or at least a portion of it. I think there might be like a full there is, there's a full trailer thing. Yeah, there's a full trailer, but I saw like whatever the Instagram version of it was. Um and I think it looks great. My fear is that like the average movie goer, you know, the people that maybe may not be as in tune with Superman's universe, is gonna see this teaser and be like, oh, Supergirl, this is gonna be cool. And then they're gonna get there and be like, who the fuck are all these other characters? And like my fear is they may not like it as much as we're gonna like it. Um maybe they will, maybe they will. I don't know. I'm just I guess I'm more cautiously optimistic about Supergirl.
SPEAKER_04:I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I think that's like higher stakes. Because like that, like this movie seems like a it's not just a movie, right? It's tying it's very much tying into the the universe that James Gunn is trying to create.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, it is, yes, it is.
SPEAKER_02:And if it if it misses, that could fuck up his whole his whole plan.
SPEAKER_04:You're you're not you're not you're not wrong. Um I don't think it'll miss, but I'm I'm afraid it might. Because here's cut well, here's here's my thoughts, because I just finished up Peacemaker season two, and I felt like it was missing something. It felt empty because it felt more iron fist season one, where they didn't really focus on the character, they focused more on a setup story, which is supposed to supposedly the ending of how season two ended is supposed to be the setup for the next Superman movie, the man of tomorrow. So for me, it it just felt because like in the first season of Peacemaker, at the end of it, I was like, yo, I can't wait for season two. They're not doing a season three of Peacemaker. That is something that I actually found out. I looked at yes. Oh, are you serious? They are not doing a season two of at least as of right now, they're not doing a season three of Peacemaker, and I knew I could feel that from the moment it ended. I was like, oh, really?
SPEAKER_02:Yes, sir. Yes. Do you think Okay, so season two fell short in your mind? For me, yes. Yes, it did. Yeah. Do you think that even though it fell short, do you think that like the studios would be like, what if instead of a season three, what if we just roll out we already have two seasons of content for Peacemaker. What if we roll out a standalone film, a peacemaker film? Or do you think Peacemaker is not big enough for his own movie? I think he is because two seasons of him. Right.
SPEAKER_01:I think he could be what are they, eight episodes? Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's 16, roughly 16 hours. Like he could do a movie.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he could I I th it's Peacemaker. They I think they could I think they could do a Peacemaker standalone film. My issue my issue with season two was they didn't build on him. You know what I'm saying? Like they it was again, it was more heartfelt because they kind of just addressed uh things he was going through personally, yeah, and and how he was coping with a lot of it. So I got what I got what they were where they were going with it, but at the end of it, I was like, that's it. Like like how it ended. That that's I was like, that's it, that's all we got. That's crazy. I was I was expecting like another episode, but like for overall, like, okay, I enjoyed it. Was it as funny as season one? Absolutely not, because again, it had a much more serious tone on uh uh Peacemaker's character and everything he was going through. So yeah, again, I understood it, but at the same time. Time I was like, it just felt like it felt like Iron Fist at the end of it. I was like, okay, we're just expecting something else afterward.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So we'll see what happens. They do say that Peacemaker will make a reappearance in Superman Man of Tomorrow. So I see. That's why I'm like, ah, so that's all it was was an in-between. It's a stepping stone to where they want to go. Um it just ca because I mean in season two, he he doesn't I don't think he ever uses one of his helmets. Like one time. What? Nope. Nope. Not one time does he use a helmet? Nothing. I was like, what? Oh, like, dude. When it's Allen. Yeah, hello.
SPEAKER_02:Hello. That's like that's like doing a whole Iron Man movie without him never suiting up.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, without a suit. I'm like, that's that's absolutely what is this, Tony Sparks? Tony Sparks? Like, what is what is this shit? So I don't know. For me, I was just like, it just it just fell short. Like again, I understood what they were doing, and I was like, that's cool and all, but it did not feel like a peacemaker season two. It just didn't.
SPEAKER_02:And but that's wild to drag that for eight episodes. Like, I understand, like, like you have eight hours roughly of of storytelling, and you spend all eight of it in doom and gloom or whatever, you know what I mean? Like serious tone. That's it. Is now the time to be doing that? I don't think so.
SPEAKER_07:It was the time that they like presented who knows how much time they actually recorded and edited out.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because it it he's supposed to be an anti-hero, right? Like Peacemaker is supposed to be an anti-hero. It did he it didn't feel like an anti-hero show, it felt like he was just just the some dude going through shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Which like I'm thinking with his like ending his WWE, like like retiring with the WWE. I wonder if like maybe that was a part of the process with Peacemaker. Like I mean, like, should it have been that way? I don't think so, but who knows? I mean, people they the people that make these shows, they're just like you and I. Yeah, they're just regular people, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, no, I hear you. I I feel like I feel like I don't give that enough credit. I'm like, oh, these people they must have everything. No, they're just they're literally just normal people.
SPEAKER_04:They are, but at the same time, aren't they supposed to be clued into what the people want? Aren't they supposed to know what the people want?
SPEAKER_01:Or do they care that no, no, they don't. No, that's a thing.
SPEAKER_02:They want what they want. Yeah, and like I'm gonna be 100% with you right now. If I'm making my own story, I mean I get it my own story.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I get it, I get it. I'm with you.
SPEAKER_02:But there is a responsibility once you have when when you're doing the the second of anything, yeah, there is a there's a responsibility. Now, if you're like if season one of Peacemaker was you know this tone, then maybe it'd be different because you ex now when you go to do season two, you're expecting like, oh, it was like this the first season. But when you have this, like it it's this is season one, and then season two is down here, you're like, what the fuck happened?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you're supposed to step up at season two, right? Like you're supposed to kind of raise the bar a little bit. I mean, you don't have to like go, you know, go balls to the wall, but at least make me want more of Peacemaker. Because after after, like I said, once it ended, I was like, Well, I think I'm done with Peacemaker. Like, personally, I was like, I think I'm done with yeah. I I I am I so are they apparently clearly like like like but reading up on it, I was like, okay, now if he does start making cameos in movies, got it. If that's what his if that what his if that's what his role is going to be from here on out, fine. You sold me, right? But if you're gonna try to tell me that, okay, right now we're not gonna worry about them, but later on down the road, I'm like, I don't even want it.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:You know, but at the same time, I have to give them their opportunity to build to that, right? Like, I can't just be like, you know, a whole wash. I just gotta take season two for what it is and just be okay with it.
SPEAKER_02:That's what I'm trying to do with The Last of Us. Because like I really don't have much desire to watch season three. Really?
SPEAKER_07:I just you want to like something. Listen, I'm trying so hard to like it, but yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I I'm gonna watch season three for sure, but I'm going to be fighting the urge to be judgmental because to turn it off and play part two, right? Because like what they've what they've already changed, because I don't want to I don't want to say anything that might like disrupt anybody that is not played the game. What they've already changed in in what we've seen for season two, they're going to have to majorly overhaul the rest of the story. And like it's gonna be fine because it's gonna play out well. Yes, it's just not going to be an adaptation, it's gonna be a scramble. And I guess on one hand, that's fine. I'm just disappointed because season one was they set the bar so high, such and it was such a good job of taking a story that existed in a game and adapting it for the silver screen without changing too much, you know, and like okay, I'll I'll give credit where credit is due. If you're retelling a story you've already told, the best option is to maybe try and change things for the better, right? Like, oh, like in the video game we did it this way because this was our limitations, but because we have access to X, Y, and Z, we can do it the way I actually wanted to do if we do it live action. And it's like, okay, that's fine. But like the choices they made don't line up in my opinion.
SPEAKER_04:Uh again, I feel like I feel like the the changes they made, a lot of the motivation later on down the road for those characters is gonna feel forced. I I honestly don't is going to feel forced. Like, yes, it is one thing. It I'm sure he's going to be very devastated, you know what I'm saying, that that he lost his brother. But to switch it to where it was Dina there when they met uh uh uh Joel, spoiler alert if you haven't seen it, I guess. Um, but uh but to switch uh uh Tommy and Dina, like I feel like Tommy's anger is no longer justified for how pissed he is in the story. Because yes, Tommy is obviously going to blame himself for not being able to protect his brother, right? Because he they got jumped, they got jumped in the game, they knock out Tommy and they take out and they take out Joel. So it's like that I understand. Yeah, I'm gonna be pissed too. I'm gonna want my get back. You know what I'm saying? Like you fucked me up, yeah, and then nah, I'm gonna I'm gonna get my get back, dog. Like, I'm gonna hunt every last one of you down. And now changing that, it's good Tom, it's gonna feel forced.
SPEAKER_02:Like, why if what if what if they completely change Tommy's character? You where like because then the game he he's angry, right? He's very mad and he's he wants his revenge. Yeah, right now, right now, Ellie has taken that.
SPEAKER_04:So so Ellie, Ellie and Tommy were on the same wavelength, like the entire game. Right. They both were incredibly pissed off.
SPEAKER_02:It's really just her.
SPEAKER_04:Well, here's the thing though, because they don't show it to a and we're getting way too far off topic right now. We could have a whole conversation about this, but but that never happens. Yeah, no shit. But in the in the show, it Ellie does not feel angry. Like for me as a viewer, it feels it does not feel like Ellie's angry, especially when you have a moment where Dina is like, you have to be mad. When Dina is tell when a side character, supposedly, is telling you is telling our main character that we're supposed to be follow following to be mad, you she is not mad. She's not mad. She's heartbroken, but she's not mad. Like, I do not feel that anger from Ellie in the show.
SPEAKER_02:It like like there's a lot of like conflicting between herself because like where her and Joel were uh emotionally before that happened. Like she was upset with him because he lied to her and blah blah blah. And like yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yep. And again, if you watch the show, they kind of the parts that they that they that they did, they they threw them in different sections from the game. Like the parts where where Ellie and Joel have their heart to heart, they had that like right at the end of season two, as opposed to in the game, you know what I'm saying? In the game, you have no idea they have this discussion until the very end of the game.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's almost like uh well, it's not almost like they have restructured the the timeline. Yes. Uh or at least at least like how the viewer learns this information, right? Because like you said, and then like uh in season two when they have their um talk on the porch. Yep. That doesn't happen until later in the game.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that like literally that conversation is at the end of the game because that when when I finished it, I that was a gut punch because I was like, oh damn, because now she feels bad because she never truly got the opportunity to like forgive him and give him that chance to be a better person. And I'm like, that that that knots everything up so nicely because you're like, oh, that explains a lot of what she's doing, of why she was the way that she was. Like when Dina says, I'm pregnant, and she's like, I'm gonna be a dad. In the game, she's like, Bitch, you a liability now. Like, why the fuck are you out here?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. So for me, like in the show, that line, it felt it felt forced because of this, like, I don't know, I feel like I feel like we be trying to do too much with uh inclusion. And like I think it's important to have inclusion, but you don't have to force it like that. No, you don't have to, you know, and like let it let it play out naturally, but like in that scenario, in that world, you are a liability, you are a liability. You are. I don't want you pregnant out here on a suicide mission, right? Are you nuts? I don't that's so true. I don't think that people think about that.
SPEAKER_04:No, they don't going to Seattle to save Joel is very much a kind of it's a suicide mission, it is because like to like Tommy taught, you don't know how many there are, you don't know how armed they are.
SPEAKER_02:You're run you're running in blind because you're I'm convinced, I'm convinced that Ellie knew that. Yes, yes, I think Ellie's only motivation in that in that is to like she she almost doesn't want to come back, yeah.
SPEAKER_08:Right. She knew what she was doing and she didn't care.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, yeah, yes, quickly. She's like, I don't care if I come back, I'm going to get mines. Yep, yeah, I think Ellie has accepted the responsibility. I'm gonna go kill that bitch, and then they're gonna kill me because I kill that bitch.
SPEAKER_04:Exactly. But as long as she's dead because of what she did to Joel, I'm good. I'm good.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. You know, man, I have a thought about what I think they're gonna do with Tommy, but I don't want to say it just because I think it pushes too far into the story that yeah, we'll so I'm not going to wait until season three comes out.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, we will pin this conversation because this will be a whole other episode. Because, like I said, as a fan of the game, I uh again, I have my thoughts. So, anyway, we'll wrap up entertainment news now. We got way too far off in the weeds, but Yeti should help us out a little bit and get us a Reddit story to have a discussion on.
SPEAKER_08:I should. You should I didn't even know we were still doing that.
SPEAKER_04:What do you mean? He's like two hours later.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Uh where's my app? I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:While he's looking for that, I will I wanna I wanna uh before before we zip up the zipper on this last of us, I wanted to add one little thing.
SPEAKER_05:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Um with season three, I think the reason why they made the choices they made for season two, like the changes, the the storytelling narrative, I think it's because season three is all gonna be told from Abby's point of view. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fine because like in the game, they do like the jumping back and forth. Um, and I think they didn't want to do jumping back and forth. They wanted to, okay, we're gonna do this perspective, and now we're gonna do this perspective. Because there might even be a fourth season. We don't know how they are going to tell season three yet. They I do I want a season four? No. But if if they're playing I don't even want a season three right now, but please don't extend this. Yeah, but but if they if they um I don't know, if they if they wanted to drag it out, they fucking could.
SPEAKER_04:I heard I heard they're gonna wrap it up in season three. That's what I heard. Okay, good. I heard I heard season three will will be the end of it, so I don't know. I don't know. We'll just have to wait and see. That's that's that's about like you said, I'll watch it. I'm gonna be reluctant because I'm gonna be like, uh, I know what's coming. I know what's coming. So anyway, Yeti!
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, what up, man?
SPEAKER_04:You find you find us a Reddit story?
SPEAKER_08:Uh yeah. Well no, because I gotta I gotta do the countdown. Give me a number one, two, oh yeah, Templeton.
SPEAKER_04:Templeton, one through one thousand five hundred and fifty-two. Whoa. It's eighty-six. Oh. What? Hey, you guys got an afternoon?
SPEAKER_02:Buenas tardes. One Mississippi.
SPEAKER_04:Mississippi. Three Mississippi. Four. Okay, four's done. We're done. Five you son of a bitch. Six. We're not doing 86. We're not. We're not doing 86. 85. 85. Yep, see? Your phone won't even allow it. 86. There we go. Perfect. One, two, skip a few 99100.
SPEAKER_08:There we go. Okay. Nice. Am I the asshole?
SPEAKER_04:Uh, probably.
SPEAKER_08:Ask my wife to handle the baby if I'm handling the backpacks. What does that mean?
SPEAKER_04:Like, is the baby in the backpack?
SPEAKER_08:Oh, this is good. This is gonna be fantastic. No, I'm I can already I already know what the I already know what the conversation's about. They're trying to see the the husband's.
SPEAKER_00:This is great because this is like gonna be you.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, please. Yeah, yes, this is what it's gonna be great. So, what it sounds like just off the headline, is they're trying to split baby duty. Um the husband's like, hey, take care of the baby and I'll take care of the rest. Meaning, we're gonna go somewhere, I'll get the backpack ready, I'll get the diaper bag ready, da da da.
SPEAKER_04:Should we get Mrs. Yeti in on this and see what she says?
SPEAKER_08:We I'm dude, we're gonna yo, we we do very well on getting shit done together. That's so yeah. All right, I'm sorry, go ahead. All right, so am I the asshole for asking my wife to handle the baby if we we're a couple originally from a third world country. Oh settled in Europe, so obviously we love to travel here to experience the bright side of the earth. We have a 10-month-old daughter, so whenever traveling, we've one backpack full of things good enough, good enough weight, and the baby stroller. I was kind of it was kind of the norm for me to handle the bag while she takes the stroller. But as our baby's growing, she's also asking me to handle the stroller more frequently without taking the backpack from me in return. For me, it's about balance, not transaction. Carrying the backpack while walking in the streets affects the joy and is significant and is a significant load. We can't leave the backpack in the hotel due to personal reasons. It comes with must-haves. So handling both the stroller and the backpack alone at once becomes too hectic to enjoy the trip even a little bit, while the other partner roams freely. I'll always happily take the baby if she takes away the backpack. But whenever I point all this out with her, she says things like this is our baby, our responsibility is of both, etc. etc. etc. And when I ask why she don't take the backpack in return, she says I'm making it transactional and our baby isn't allowed, etc. etc. etc. Am I the asshole for not complying complying? I clearly said my side to her.
SPEAKER_02:So being a childless person, being a childless parent. Being a childless person, I feel like I on one hand might not have the credentials to have the the the comments that I'm about to have. Okay, but just hear me out. We're listening.
SPEAKER_07:We got you.
SPEAKER_02:They have a 10-month-old baby, correct? Yes. Don't fucking travel.
SPEAKER_01:Hey. Okay, okay. Right?
SPEAKER_02:Like, like, like if if it's gonna be that big a deal, if you're gonna throw that big a fit and not know how to work together, just don't don't travel like that. Like, like travel, but like just don't don't travel like at a at a capacity that is causing this rift. That's my first thought. That's fair. Okay. My set my my my second and more more uh serious thought is um do strollers not have a cargo space for fucking backpacks? Like, what are we doing here? You're right, are we two children having children? Like, why are they being so immature? I don't understand what's going on here.
SPEAKER_08:Did it say how old they were?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, right?
SPEAKER_08:It doesn't say it doesn't say how old the couple is, no.
SPEAKER_02:Also, she carried that baby for nine months. You can fucking carry a backpack.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you can carry a backpack.
SPEAKER_00:You can carry a backpack for a nine. I'm sorry, but he is the atoll a little bit.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, just just so we're clear, they made backpacks just for this reason. Like, what are we on about? That's that's wild. It's actually wild.
SPEAKER_08:Okay, so uh as having a fucking baby, okay, and baby.
SPEAKER_03:A fucking baby.
SPEAKER_08:Literally doing the same like traveling and stuff of that nature, like here's the thing one, I want to know what kind of traveling they're doing that requires them to put certain things in their backpack because like when we go out, we take it, we take a diaper bag, and guess what that diaper bag fits? Back underneath the stroller. Oh, and then here's the other thing, too. If you guys know you guys are about to go be doing this crazy thing, they make even bigger things called wagons. Wagons! Yeah, that you can fit a 10 month old perfectly fine. You've never been in a wagon. And you have half the fucking wagon left to store whatever it else is you need to fucking carry. And then you're just Or pushing a wagon. Playing a second. Yeah. As far as asking for help, like I'd like to know how he went about with it. Because there is a way to ask. Did he have a tone? You're telling someone to take this.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:Because I will say that I have learned, like, my tone does dictate what kind of response I get from Emily during certain situations when dealing with the baby. Yeah. Plain and simple.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:I mean, I'm not I'm not saying I try to, you know, pass off all the work, you know, but I'm not doing that by any means. And and again, Jeremy's been around, he knows I don't do that.
SPEAKER_07:I feel like you're a good daddy, honestly.
SPEAKER_08:Oh, 100%. Like I go above and beyond to make sure that my child's being taken care of.
SPEAKER_07:And because I know that's it's important to you.
SPEAKER_08:And it is very important to me. And if at any time I see Emily starting to get stressed out, I step in and I take over. And the greatest thing about my wife that I'm learning right now, because like even though we've been married and dating forever, and we've been married for five, six years now, we're still learning as with each other and having a baby, we're learning even more with each other. And there's time like she turns around and does the same exact thing that I do to her, where she sees me getting stressed out, she'll be like, Hey, let me take over for a little bit. You go, go, go, go do something for me. Yeah, and and and I can't thank her enough for doing that. And I just to me, just just just reading this, it bothers me because it just to me, it just makes him look like an asshole. Right. Like, number one, why are you even going to fucking Reddit for a question like this? Like, be man and fucking handle your situation. Like, talk to your wife.
SPEAKER_02:They probably immature.
SPEAKER_04:So I was that's why I was like, did it say what age they are? They gotta be like early 20s. They have to be right. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_08:There's got different mentality set there because I just handled the situation verbally completely different than what it sounds like on this what he just wrote. Yeah. And it makes I I'm not, I mean, it makes sense to what I just said, plain and simple.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and like that, I think that that's the key to any relationship, whether it's an intimate relationship or a friendship, is is is understanding that there's a mutual responsibility of um shared responsibilities, right? Right. Like if you if like for instance, when we went to the Kansas City game, like if one of us was expected to like do everything, like that would stress that one person out. Oh yeah, let me let me get the Uber, let me get the hotel, let me plan where we're gonna eat. But like that's not how that goes. Thankfully, we all have like this like fluid relationship of we kind of can sense that without saying it. So like one of us have like, hey, I'll call the Uber, the other one's like, all right, I'll find where we go to dinner. You know what I'm saying? And like it's just sharing the responsibilities, right? But if you see someone stressing out, then you're like, hey, don't worry about it. Like, let me let me let me grab that, you know.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because it shouldn't be all on one person, shouldn't should not be.
SPEAKER_02:And and and like that's that's no different than like helping take care of a living being, right? Right? It's like if the other person's overwhelmed, don't be like, here, take this. But hey, do you mind like I'm really fucking stressed right now? Yeah, because the the key, the key is communicating, yeah. You know, and like, yeah, tone does play a part, but as long as like you can have a shitty tone, as long as the other person knows that you don't mean that ill will. Yeah, it's like I'm overwhelmed, and this is gonna this sounds bad right now, but it's just that's just my emotional response. And and like I don't mean anything by it, right? And then like you get better at how you emotionally respond to things. They honestly honestly, being in my mid-30s, it just sounds like they're in their 20s. That's why I said that's why I just said that five. Yeah, that's why I said they gotta be early. I wonder if there's a way for me to like they probably don't even know the stroller has a cargo space, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_07:Like, I I I just want to add like if you want something from your partner or you need something from your partner, ask. Say, hey, I I I I'm not capable of doing this. Hey, can you do this for me? Hey, I I I want this from you. Like, ask. Say, I need this. See, see Templeton, see Templeton. But don't don't get upset if you want or need something and you don't ask for it and then you don't get it.
SPEAKER_04:Right. See, you're you're you're a hundred percent correct on that in communicating your needs in the moment, right? Like you have to let the other person know this is what I need from you at the moment. The problem right now, especially like I said, I gotta assume young couple, and on top of that, they said they were from a thoroughwell country. So I'm curious as to what their um their like culture is, like the cultural type of type of stuff. Like, how do they view like women or any like like traditional roles, shit like that?
SPEAKER_02:But without any context, I think I can take a wild guess.
unknown:Damn.
SPEAKER_04:So but Templeton, where I was going with that, was a especially younger couples nowadays, they don't know how to ask, they just think that the other person should know exactly what I'm thinking in the in the moment. And it's like not all the time are you guys gonna be on the same page, and and that's okay. It's okay.
SPEAKER_00:That takes years to develop.
SPEAKER_04:Like Yeti just said, they're still learning, and you should always be learning. It don't matter if you're in a relationship for 30 years, I can guarantee you there's gonna be something they do that you had no idea that they were capable of doing.
SPEAKER_08:I haven't I think that's a problem. That's that's a lot of the problems that people run into is they forget that they're still learning about each other. They they they get to a certain point and they think, okay, this is it, this is my life, and this is what it's gonna be like the rest of the life, or rest of your your natural life, whatever. And that's not entirely true. Is you're still learning, you're still evolving, and you're still you're you're moving one foot after another, and right everyone's growing, like it's yeah, even now, you guys can have the same conversation with me five years, and I may have a different response because I've grown in differently, whether it's up, down to the left or right, I've grown to a degree in the next the next five years, and yeah, yeah, you just gotta learn to change and and and learn to like communicate, like Grizz said, and and and and express your feelings. If you can verbally do that with anyone, not just your partner, with anyone, life will be much easier.
SPEAKER_07:I have an actress whose one of her favorite phrases was close mouths, don't get fed. Which is basically saying, like, if you don't ask for what you want, you're not gonna get what you right now.
SPEAKER_04:I will say if you're eating through a straw, I mean you still have to kind of open your mouth to get the straw in there.
SPEAKER_00:So if you eat if you eat with straw, it means you guys should ask you.
SPEAKER_04:That's what that means. That's what that means. Next time, don't fuck up. How about that?
SPEAKER_07:Because I feel like this entire like group, like you want to make sure your partner is like cared for and acknowledged and like their needs are met. Right. But you can't do that if you don't know what those needs are. Correct. Yeah. So if you want me to like make you crimbolet every fucking Sunday for for brunch, yeah, you gotta say that. Yeah, you gotta tell me because I don't how the fuck am I supposed to know otherwise?
SPEAKER_02:You gotta tell me, and then you gotta know I'm not gonna do that.
SPEAKER_04:No shit. Because here's here's what happens. Here's what happens, and and this is where people are like, you spoil me. And I'm like, time out, because what happens is I might do something once, and then you'll expect that constantly without saying, hey, are you gonna do this all the time? Instead of having opening that con you know that communication up and saying, hey, is this an all all the time thing, or is this just like every once in a while? Like have that discussion. Don't be afraid to be like, yo, that was really good, creme brulee. Maybe we should make this an every Sunday thing and have and give the person the opportunity to be like, I don't know about every Sunday. I might do it like once a once a Sunday, one Sunday every month, you know, or two Sundays every month. Have that have that have that conversation. Don't just constant don't just expect it. Be like, well, you spoiled me because you you you made me creme brulee. Okay, I did a nice thing for you, is what I did. I wasn't, you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_01:You don't understand the shit I had to do. Like you just had to show up and eat. Yeah, you just ate it.
SPEAKER_07:Like it's just fun. I'll make you a creme brulee every week. Yeah, but again, you gotta talk about that. I want to understand that that's an expectation, like that's what you want. Yeah, and I'm fine, I'm I'm fine to do that. But if I don't do it, don't get pissed at me because I didn't do it if you didn't tell me that's what you want it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because they silently made up their mind and said, Okay, we're doing this every Sunday. Oh, do I know that? Am I part of that plan? You don't remember? I I said it in my head. I said it quietly, but you obviously didn't hear me.
SPEAKER_02:It's like you don't even fucking listen to me.
SPEAKER_08:One ear not the other. What the fuck?
SPEAKER_04:It's all his call. It's one of those, mmm, he's gonna make this every Sunday. What'd you say? Nothing. Huh? What? Well, they talk about they talking about nothing. Hell yeah. We can always bring it back to Kendrick. So I would say, I would say at the end of the day, I'm gonna say asshole. They are the asshole for for all of that. Because no way. No, no, no, no shot. Because again, I am can I am curious on like like Yeti said, how did they ask? You know, was it was it literally, hey, yeah. Yeah, did they ask? Or did or did they just say, hey, take this fucking shit? It was it, you know what I mean? Like it's it there are so many variables left out. It is their side of the story. I would like to hear from the other person to to fully make but just based off of that, I'm gonna say asshole, because there's no need to be that way.
SPEAKER_07:I agree, I agree. Just to add a little bit of context to like this scenario, and like to agree with Jay. Like, I had an ex and she was like, Oh, so and so are saying that they're having this event on this date. I'm like, oh, that's cool. And then you know, I would go about my like life, I would work, I would do whatever life threw at me between then and that specific date. And she'd be like, oh, so what time are we leaving?
SPEAKER_04:Leaving for what?
SPEAKER_07:Like, yeah, leaving exactly what leaving for what? Leaving for what? She's like, oh, I I I told you that there's this thing was happening. I'm like, yeah, you told me this thing was happening, but you didn't say you wanted to go. Oh, well, I just assumed and I didn't agree to go, you just this was a thing that was going on. I'm like, okay, cool. You know, and that happened more than one time. Like, if you wanted to go, you could just say, hey, this thing is happening, and like and I'd like to go.
SPEAKER_08:Right.
SPEAKER_01:That's not difficult. Instead, I brought up this event. That means I want to go. Hey, did you see that? Yeah, I did. That's pretty neat.
SPEAKER_04:Three weeks later. So when are we going? Where? That thing I pointed out. You just pointed at it. You just you just brought it to mind. You didn't say, hey, I want to go to that. Like, add that into your conversation, right? Like, hey, should we should go to that?
SPEAKER_02:Some people just aren't good at communicating. It's it's yeah, it's a lost art, my dude. It's a lost art. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08:It's it's absolutely wild. You know why you know why people aren't good at communicating?
SPEAKER_01:Um, yeah. Fuck you, Joe. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02:It's an combination of brain rot and cell phones. Six, seven. That thing is making people shitty at talking.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. Yep. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
SPEAKER_02:Because they always use lot word when little word works. Small word work.
SPEAKER_04:You know what? You know what that is one of my biggest pet peeves, especially with text messaging, when people like uh uh uh you when they spell you with just the letter U, I'm like, can you not just write out you? Like, like what is so hard about that? Like, write it.
SPEAKER_02:Alpha or fucking beta or whatever they are, SATA, whatever it is. Um I'm just being an asshole right now. Um yes, he's an asshole.
SPEAKER_00:He's an asshole. I got thirty I got 35 years on this bitch.
SPEAKER_02:Uh when um when instead of using like to be honest, uh to be a T B H, you know, like when they abbreviate certain words, like you said, like with the letter U instead of Y O U, that low key does bother me.
SPEAKER_04:It drives me nuts, bro.
SPEAKER_02:I'm like, what is so hard about writing a YOU?
SPEAKER_00:Like you're oh you in such a hurry? You in such a hurry right now that you got abbreviate?
SPEAKER_04:That's what I'm saying. Like, chill, just getting lazy with it.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know, but I I do agree that that the little rectangular pieces of equipment in our hand are ruining our way of communicating, and I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:You've seen the movie Idiocracy, right?
SPEAKER_04:Yes, yeah, yes, we're there, we've arrived.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we welcome into that. Hell yeah, we did. Hell yeah. We stepped right into it, if you will.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. I see what you did there. Um yeah, so definitely the asshole. Um Yeah, I agree. But with that being said, with that being said, you know what I think would have helped out? Especially when you're in a stressful environment. You're you're a butthole? Yeah, yes, and you're and your thoughts are all over the place, and you're you can't even get the thought out, and you're like, I need you to I need you to take this backpack full of baby goods. And I'm not gonna ask you, I'm gonna tell you, take this backpack because I'm an asshole. Anyway. Yeah, yeah. See, buttholes. So I think what would have helped them, I think what would have helped them out is a nice shot of magic mind. This wonderful little mental performance shot that would have absolutely got them to focus on the task at hand. Uh, it's full of wonderful little nootropics uh that'll clear up your brain fog, that will help you think sharper, right? Give you a calm, cool energy. Yeah. You get your you get your uh caffeine from the matcha tea that's in it, and it's laced with L L theanine. I said laced, that's right, like it's some kind of illegal thing. But what but what that will do is it'll allow that caffeine absorption to last longer. It'll it'll it's almost like a time release capsule, right? Like it'll last you all day long, and then it won't give you the crash at the end because it ain't got all that sugar and all that other stuff that's gonna f you up. So get yourself some magic mine. Hang on, I'm gonna take me a shot. That's right, we ain't forgot about that. But um now if you want to try it for yourself and see how it works out, stop by at www.magicmind.com um and use our discount code FMJpod20, and that'll get you 48% off of your for uh your first subscriptions or 20% off uh one-time purchases. So try it out, see how it works for you, and see if it'll chill your ass out. And maybe, just maybe, you can learn to communicate with your significant other and say, Hey, I'm like under duress right now. Uh would it be okay if you take this backpack for a moment? Because I need to figure out where to put all this other baby stuff, because I don't know what this little net underneath the stroller is for, and I'm trying to figure that out. Can you tell me where the instructions are? Because I'd like to read them. Said no one ever. Said no one ever. That was that was a whole made-up scenario of a perfect world. That's a utopia. That's what that was. That is where I live in my head, actually. That's where that's where I am right now. So um just don't don't be like the guy in our story. Don't be an asshole. Just ask. Ask politely, and I guarantee you things will start to change for you. But with that, uh, I believe we have something to talk about. And I think it's pretty important because a lot of people have been a lot of people have been um like and like really waiting, and I think it they've been impatient about it because the Duffer Brothers really fucked us up when they ended season four of Stranger Things, and they were like, Oh, you're gonna have to wait like three years uh for for season five, for the final season. It's the final season of Stranger Things, and I think that's what we're talking about, is that them first few episodes of Stranger Things season five, the final Stranger Things. So is this spoiler free? So I think it's been out well, though. Because it's been out since what? They released it Thanksgiving week. Thanksgiving weekend. So it's been out long enough. Yeah, it's been it's been out a couple of weeks. I think what we're gonna do this is what we're gonna do. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert, if you don't want to hear any of this, you're gonna have to choose a chapter on this episode where it says, hey, this is our Stranger Things conversation. Just jump to the end where we have our fun and games and fun facts. If you would like to hear us talk about it, just stick, it's just stick with us. Just stick with us, because we're gonna talk about it. It's been out long enough. Now, this is gonna be a two-parter, just to give you a heads up. We will not do any spoilers on the second part, because our last episode, we're gonna talk about the other part of that, right? Technically it's gonna be three parts, but you gotta you gotta be around with four extra lives for that for that final. Now, I don't know how you guys feel about this, but they are supposed to release so apparently they're releasing they released two episodes, right? Two two or three, two or three uh Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_02:I think three. Uh no, no, no. They released four Thanksgiving. Yes, three on Christmas, and the last one is New Year's.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. So I thought it was the last episode of four, two, and two. No, the last episode's of Christmas because it's two hours long, and they are going to release it in some theaters. So I don't know how you feel about it.
SPEAKER_02:Is that Christmas Day? Or is that New Year's New Year's New Year's. It's a New Year's New Year's Eve is when they're releasing it.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, New Year's Eve is when they're releasing it.
SPEAKER_02:New Year's the New Year's one is like a two hour episode.
SPEAKER_04:Two hours and five minutes is is the final episode. So And I think Christmas was getting three, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yes, we're getting three. Yes. Yeah. Yes. So it's four, three, and one.
SPEAKER_04:Yes. So if y'all want to try to watch it in theaters New Year's Eve, I mean I'm thinking about it, but it's all it's all sold out already.
SPEAKER_02:Like is it really around me? Of course. I have to like because I like there's a theater literally right down the like three blocks away from my apartment. It's a re I think it's a regal, and that one's already sold out. I'm like, of course it is.
SPEAKER_04:So more than likely it's all sold out. I mean, yeah, that's that's the option. That's that that's the alternative. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And what you pay for at the movie, like you're you're actually paying for a a concession voucher. Yes. Because like that's the way that they're they're advertising it. Because it's like if you have Netflix, you should be able to watch it. It's like, yeah. But you're paying to go watch it at a theater. But the the the fine print is like says you get to see it for free, you're paying for uh concession voucher.
SPEAKER_04:I'm sorry, but if they're releasing it in theaters, you should still pay. Because you're leaving your house to go to another place to watch it. You're using their facilities. Like you should you should pay a fee to go see it. If you didn't want to pay a fee, stay the fuck home and watch it on Netflix.
SPEAKER_02:I don't remember how much it was uh advertising, like whether it's like eleven or twenty or whatever. I don't know how much it is. It's probably a standard movie ticket. Yeah, probably something like that. But still, I d I don't know. That that just basically a movie ticket with a concession voucher. Like you pay the price to get in and they're giving you a popcorn and a drink for free.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's goofy. Because listen, when when me when me and my sister took our uh took my took my nephew to go see K-pop demon hunters twice, by the way, because it was released in theaters two separate times. I am more than happy to pay to go see that movie because I'm supporting the movie, right? Like I'm supporting that film. So I don't understand. Well, if I have Netflix, I should see it for free. No, I'm going to the theaters. I'm expecting to pay a price to go to the theater. If I didn't want to pay anything to go see it, then I just stay home and watch it on Netflix. Mm-hmm. Hello.
SPEAKER_01:Hello. Hello.
SPEAKER_04:Like, what are we doing here? They didn't they didn't, you know, you don't go to the theater and then they're like, okay, what's your uh Netflix login? They didn't log into your Netflix and say, let's watch it here.
SPEAKER_01:That's not that should be kind of a thing. It should be kind of a thing, not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_02:You still have to the movie theater and you like punch in your all right, so I got Netflix, I got HBO, I got 2% off.
SPEAKER_01:Hear me out.
SPEAKER_04:Hear me out, hear me out. Because I know that some theaters will allow you to rent out an auditorium. Could you imagine if they allowed you to do that? Especially on something like this, like this big. You rent out you rent out an auditorium with like all of your friends, and you're just like, come on, we're gonna go watch this. We're gonna log in with my Netflix info and watch the season finale of the series finale of Net uh.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that would be sick. You rent rent out a room and then just like and then log into your Netflix. Yo, that would be kind of low-key sick. That would be dope.
SPEAKER_08:That'd be dope as hell.
SPEAKER_02:That could be that could be the transition for movie theaters because like there's sometimes shitty movies out, and like the movies aren't always doing well. Yeah. Like theaters themselves aren't always like they're not always thriving.
SPEAKER_04:Yep. You could like you don't have to do like one of the IMAX or XD like rooms. Save those for the big movies. Right. Like get the smaller auditoriums that that you know are showing the the the movies that have been out for three weeks. Okay, move those movies out. These are dedicated for those that want to rent this space out to watch to watch a you know a huge premiere. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01:Everything's digital anyway. Hey, I'm just saying sold out, bro. Yeah, of course it is.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, wow. Of course it is walk out. Yeah, of course it is. So we'll just watch it at home. Yep.
SPEAKER_02:No, we should look hey, we should seriously look into a watch party. You remember that during COVID? Yes. Where you can like all log in and watch it at the same exact time. I don't know. Does Netflix have that? They used to. Uh if you did Netflix via the website, if you go to Netflix.com on your computer, is where the watch party was during COVID. That's right. And then we all kind of like log into a queue similar to what we're doing here in Discord. Um, which we could do. We could like Discord and then I got a TV right in front of me behind my camera, and we could just like boom, boom, boom.
SPEAKER_04:I was gonna say for the extra lives episode, it would be a we could do a special.
SPEAKER_02:Fuck you, Netflix.
SPEAKER_01:Fucking Netflix.
SPEAKER_04:Fucking fucking bitch ass Netflix.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, we could what wasn't it eight billion dollars, and you can't keep a fucking watch party?
SPEAKER_04:Remember, hey, what what what did they say? You remember when uh uh how does Netflix have enough money to spend to buy Warner Brothers, but they cried poor when we shared our passwords with our mom. They're like, ooh, we want we we're you're we're losing money. Wait, what do you mean? You had eight billion to spend. Yeah. Where's that lost money? Yeah, exactly. That's crazy. So, I mean, technically we still could if we wanted to. You know what I'm saying? Like we could with like for the extra lives episode, we could just pull it up and watch it separately, but at the same time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just one, two, three, go. I went a little faster. Shit.
SPEAKER_04:Do we go on three or at go? I'm confused. So anyway, um season series finale for Stranger Things. How do we feel so far about what has transpired?
SPEAKER_08:I'm fucking hyped.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I I dude, I enjoyed it. I um I was a little confused at first because like the last episode of season four and the first episode of season five is a big time jump. Yes. Not that big, but it's a time jump. And like I know storytellers do this often where and what they're doing is they're trying to milk it out a little bit uh and and like really uh hang on to that suspension. Um so I get it, but like I was expecting us to pick up exactly where we left off because the way it ended made it feel like oh, season one or season five, episode one is going to be literal moments after what we just saw. Yep, you know, Hawkins got ripped in half, and and we're going to see like that aftermath.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, hell breaking loose.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And and I feel like we are, I feel like we're gonna get that in a flashback probably. But like so far, they're like months ahead or years or however long. I I think it's months, right?
SPEAKER_04:So I think it hasn't been a whole year, right? I I I think because you you do know the reason why they did that, right? Why they had to do why they had to do a time time skip.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, probably because they're all fucking older now.
SPEAKER_04:Because they're older, because it took so long for them to get all that together, and because they're older, it wouldn't make sense. Because they're supposed to be in high school, right? They're and I think they're all I don't remember what year there's they're in in season four. I don't remember if they're freshmen or sophomore, but as of right now, they are all uh seniors getting ready to graduate.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:They have to be because it wouldn't, you know, how old they've all gotten, they've aged. Right. So yeah, I get it. I get it. I understand. Get your logic out of the conversation, Jay. I don't want to hear this shit. Okay. But I it so the time, the time jump, I think it might be at most a year, possibly. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine.
SPEAKER_02:It doesn't bother me that much. I just wasn't expecting right.
SPEAKER_04:It was a little bit of a shock to to be like, okay, we're starting after everything went to shit. And it's like, well, what happened when things went to shit? Like, that's what we were because here's the thing. If they if they were to if they were able to release it a year later, I think the story would have been very different. And it would have been Hawkins gets ripped apart and everything just goes south really fucking fast. They think they beat Vecna, but Vecna is like just laying low somewhere as he, you know, gets his army together to and and the final episode is you know this huge battle between Vecna and and our group of homies that we've been following, following. But um yeah, we as of right now we just we got what we got, and Eleven is being trained up by by uh Hopper. And yeah, we're we that was cool.
SPEAKER_02:I really like that. It was it was pretty neat. It was pretty neat. Seeing seeing uh seeing her um kind of like learning how to harness her abilities finally. Yep. Um and like I've been watching My Hero Academia. So like are you caught up? Like, no, I'm on season. I might have just wrapped up season four, moving into season five. Um the part that I'm at, uh they they just fought um uh they did that rescue mission on ER. I think ERI is the spelling of her name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh they did that big rescue mission to get her from away from the Yakuza character. Um and that was like the last thing I saw. Like uh Deku like beat that guy up, yeah. And every everyone is like they have to go back to school, and everything is like there was just like, huh? What?
SPEAKER_04:What uh is that is that when Bakugo got uh got kidnapped essentially, or uh that happened already.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, yeah. Yeah, that that happened, and then they rescued him. Yep, and he he felt a type of way about that. Yep, and then him and Deku like had their like fight in the middle of the night. Dude, that was that was a dope ass fight, by the way. Dude, like it's that was dope. That first that first season of My Hero was rough for me to get through because it felt so childish. But then I had to remind myself that like I'm watching it at a time when like it it like that first season was not meant for me. Right, right? It it's meant for a specific age group. Yeah, it was meant for younger you.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it was meant for younger you, yes.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like now that I'm like at a part of the show, because like this show feels like I hate I'm sorry that I'm I'm I'm a little bit on the the I'm a little bit on the side of the road here, but this show feels like it grows with his audience. Yes, yes, it does. Yeah, yes, it does. Um so that being said, back to Stranger Things, because I've been watching my hero, um like there's this little essence of um I don't know how to I don't know how to identify this emotion that I've was going through, but it it felt kind of similar uh in a way because like my hero is like they're training these heroes, and then L is you know, she's being trained up and she's very much the the hero with superpowers, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, and she's like learning how to control them. Right. And like in my hero, they learn how to control their cur quirks. Right. So I thought that that was like a cool. There's there's some parallels. Yeah, there's some parallels. Because like I don't think every anyone else is watching my hero at the same time they're watching Stranger Things.
SPEAKER_04:I I mean I think I think there's a lot of people that are doing that because I will say um they they they just released so the final season. Oh, the final season. Yes, and and the sub ended, I believe, last week, and the dubs are two weeks behind. So I think we're getting I think we're getting I gotta watch the one from last night, and I think the next episode is the last episode of the final season. And boy did they fucking cook. Cause god dang it. God dang it.
SPEAKER_02:My buddy, my buddy just watched the last episode yesterday. He watches the sub. Yep. Uh I I've been watching the sub as well. Um, I'm addicted to not knowing what they're saying and just reading it. That's fair.
SPEAKER_04:I like reading.
SPEAKER_02:No, it's I don't know what it is. Like sometimes the the American um act voice actors just don't feel like they sound like what I'm watching.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Uh there's some shows that do it really well, and I'm sure my hero is probably one because like the big animes always have really good dubs.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, but I'm just so used to watching the subs that I just I just keep doing it. I'm with you. I'm with you. But no, I can't. No, you're good.
SPEAKER_04:I can I can see what you mean though by the by the parallels, because the funny thing is, and I don't think a lot of people don't realize it, just to keep the parallel of Stranger Things and My Hero going. Um, do you do you do know that the entirety of My Hero Academia from start to finish happens only in one year of them being in the academy?
SPEAKER_08:Whoa.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's one year of them being in the academy from start to finish, from the start of the series to the end of the series is one year in the academy.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I don't hate that. Uh so I don't know. I do want to after after you said that, that is a lot. It makes me okay. So the last episode I just watched, uh, well, it wasn't just an episode, the last arc, if you will, uh, the the rescue mission arc. Yep. I'm pretty sure that was all in one day. Yeah, yeah. They wake up early, they go, they go to the Yakuza compound, they rescue this this girl, and it it all in a day's work. It's fucking 9 a.m. or whatever. Yep. All right, and that's a Tuesday. Yeah, yeah. But it took like six episodes or whatever. You know, I forget how many episodes it was, but like it yeah. That's kind of I okay, I kind of fuck with it.
SPEAKER_04:The entire series happens in one year at the academy.
SPEAKER_02:I kind of think it's super sick.
SPEAKER_04:It it is pretty dope, but all I'm saying is it's tiresome being a hero.
SPEAKER_02:That's fair, yeah. I mean, they could have stretched it out.
SPEAKER_04:What do you what do you mean this happened in a year?
SPEAKER_02:That's right. Seven seasons in one year, right?
SPEAKER_04:Exactly. And and for Deku to be able to like, you know, come into uh uh a pretty decent control of his powers. It that happens pretty quickly. Yeah, from being porkless to being able to handle that in one year, that's wild.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I feel I feel like that that they should have stretched it out more than one year because like that's too much growth. That's a lot of growth in one year. Yeah. For how he started, yes. I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
SPEAKER_04:I tell people all the time get through get through the first season because Deku is kind of he's kind of whiny and whiny. Uh young Midoria. Young Midoria is a crybaby, he absolutely is. Yeah, but once he once he gets his quirk and really starts to grow into who he is, he becomes an absolute badass. And and once he makes it his own. Yes, and it is it is dude.
SPEAKER_02:The last episode I watched, the fucking fight scene. I know we're not supposed to be talking about it right now. Yeah, but I just watched it. Dude, it was such a joy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because like, uh we should do a My Hero episode. No, we we we should.
SPEAKER_04:Once you get once you get caught up, because I love I love the the number one, the growth of Bakugo, I would love to talk about that. Because he especially when he realizes what everything Deku has gone through. That's why that's why like even on the even on the dubs, they do hit, I promise you. Because in the in the I think it was season seven, because the last season of season eight. Season seven pulled at the top pulled at the uh heartstrings a little bit. Because I was like, damn, Bakugo is literally like brother.
SPEAKER_02:Oh brother, I I've cried the whole fucking time I've watched this show. Right, every every because it's so it's so motivational and so inspirational. Yeah, and like I I'll be the first to admit, I have a hard time living this life. Yeah, I get it. I I like I mean, me and depression, we are like wrestling my like all 35 years of my life. Yeah, like I'm not I I don't feel and like I'm not saying that to be like, oh whoa is me. Like someone go fucking hug Grizz. I'm saying that to say that I recognize that this is not an easy life, and watching something like my hero and these characters go through something that's not easy, and then for like these kids, yeah, to be like, I have to like like watching them push through this grit, I'm like, hey, I know they're I know they're fictional characters. However, if he can do it, I fucking can do it. I can push through whatever I got going on.
SPEAKER_04:And to know that it's only a year, you're like, yeah, I could that's that's cake work. What I'm doing is cake work, right? Yeah, I've never had to deal with that shit.
SPEAKER_02:The worst thing that I got going on is I tell myself I suck.
SPEAKER_04:Right. You know what I mean? God, I'm terrible today. Yeah, but Deku damn near died like seven times.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, right. Yeah. So anyway, dude, I cry a lot watching that show.
SPEAKER_04:It's okay, man. It's all good because it it definitely hits it hits the emotions. But um back to Stranger Things, because I know we were talking about the paradigm.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Uh to see, I I was kind of trying to fill the time in until Yeti got back, honestly. Yeah, because he walked off. But um Yeah, so so so the way that things have transpired and I mean my me and my sister watched it. We we had a little watch party. And the way that things have transpired, it's going to be interesting to see who's gonna be the one that fights Vecna when it's all said and done. Who's gonna be like who's gonna be used by Vecna, who's gonna like full on take him head on. Because here's the thing, and again, spoiler alert, we we warn we warned you, spoiler alert. For Will this is the last alert you get. Right, for for for Will to do what he did at the end of that episode.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, episode four.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, it was more impressive than anything we've seen Eleven do up until this point.
SPEAKER_08:100%.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Because you have never seen L just erase three demogorgons at the same fucking time without being anywhere in their vicinity. He had the one, and then the other two are I don't know, they fucked off 12 miles east, right? And and he's able to 12 miles east, it's crazy. It's true though.
SPEAKER_02:They were, and and for Will to just be able to do disconnected to like the hive mind or whatever.
SPEAKER_04:He knew what they were where and what they were doing, but he's still capable of controlling them just through that and do what he did. That's crazy. That's more impressive than anything L has ever done in the entire series.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, now to be cool though, has Elle's been going through a training regimen, yes, and that and that's kind of what we mentioned when you walked away. We haven't seen her peak performance.
SPEAKER_04:And that and that's where I was gonna go was we haven't seen her full potential yet. So it there is room for her to really wow us still. But at the at the current moment, Will is stronger than L. And I don't uh argue with the ocean.
SPEAKER_02:He's he's stronger than L at the at the current moment. Can I can I say a um can I make a point? Yes. Uh I think that we so we haven't seen The full fruits of her training. Correct. So at this point, Will is seemingly stronger than Elle. Yes. We don't know what her full potential is because Hopper has been so protective.
SPEAKER_08:Right. Right.
SPEAKER_02:And they've been training for a while, right? It's been at least a year, maybe two.
SPEAKER_05:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Um, so like she could be a lot stronger than we realized. She very well could be.
SPEAKER_04:And that's why go ahead.
SPEAKER_02:But she's never showed Vecna abilities. Like, Will Vecna those demogorgons.
SPEAKER_05:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Right? Like he he was like, he was like, Demogorgon, wake up.
SPEAKER_04:Wakey wakey. Yeah. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_02:He was like, he was like, nah, my man. So then he like killed that demogorgon. Right.
SPEAKER_04:Right. But that that's why I'm curious as to who is gonna do what. Because remember, Vecna made the made the comment to Will that they both, he said, we are going to do great things together. Yeah, so so so in a way, because you know, uh, who you call it? Um uh uh uh Mike has was trying to stress to him, it's a two-way street. Vecna can do what he does with you. You can you can utilize that because you're it's a two-way street. So here's my theory. This is just me. I think once Elf, once we finally see what Eleven is capable of, and Vecna realizes he is not gonna be able to beat her straight up, he's going to utilize Will in some way, shape, or form. I feel like he's gonna use Will to fight Eleven because that is going to cause Eleven to not fight to her full potential because that's her friend. She's not gonna want to hurt her friend, right?
SPEAKER_08:Nope.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, but if Vecna is using him almost as a vessel and being like, okay, well, fight me now, 11. And she's like, I kind of don't want to because if I kill you, I kill Will, and I don't want to kill Will.
SPEAKER_08:So And what happens if that's how it ends?
SPEAKER_02:It might be a good thing. Some people are saying he might Will is so connected. Remember when they were burning when they were burning the wall, I think? Yep, and like Will could feel that? Yep, yes, like what it what if he like I mean, damn.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, which will be a hell of a way to end it. Yeah, it'll be a hell of a way to end it. That will be and it we already know they've confirmed there's some deaths, yes, yes, because I think I think Millie Bobby Brown in an interview did say that she was tired of them playing it safe and keeping everybody alive. So they that hinted that we gonna have some big time deaths in this series now.
SPEAKER_08:There are gonna be some pissed off people and some cry and some tears, plain simple.
SPEAKER_04:People were mad that Eddie died and he wasn't even like a main character, big time character. Shut your mouth.
SPEAKER_08:Eddie to be fair, what what was it? What was the lady? You think Eddie's dead?
SPEAKER_00:Was it Debbie episodes left?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, no shit. Debbie, I think so, maybe from from which season?
SPEAKER_02:Are you talking about Barbara? Barbara, Barbara, yeah. Fuck Barbara, but Debbie.
SPEAKER_08:Rinz is the person I'm talking about who was mad at me. I'll cry when Barbara got fucking smoked.
SPEAKER_04:No, there was, there was because because people have been saying that they always introduce the one character that everybody loves and they know that's who's gonna die. That's the person that's gonna die in the at the end of the series because they gotta have a death somewhere, right? And that's why Millie Bobby Brown made the made the comment that she did. They were tired of the Duffer brothers playing it safe because the main characters are always protected, right? Like they have the craziest plot armor in the history of plot armor. So that's true.
SPEAKER_02:They got some Batman level plot armor.
SPEAKER_04:They do like I'm surprised that Batman hasn't shown up yet and been like, you know, with all my prank time, I know exactly how to beat the mind flare. What?
SPEAKER_01:Where's where's Batman? Why did you say that name?
SPEAKER_04:So it'll be it'll be interesting to to see. Is that a dragon? I think so. It could be Vecna. He's mad at us right now. Hang on. Templeton! Templeton! Hurrow? Okay, so here's what we're gonna do. I need you guys to be on the lookout for Templeton's voice. If you hear him and he's talking, let me know so I can unmute him. Alright. Got it? Okay. Um but no, that's why I'm curious as to if Vecnum might utilize that two-way street and use will against 100%. Yeah, and and utilize will against everybody else. Because there's no way they've made that such a point to where they don't do anything with it.
SPEAKER_02:I wonder I have a wonder. Oh, go ahead, Yeti.
SPEAKER_08:No, no, I was just gonna say, and that would just be the way to end it because like this entire series has been friends, friends, friends, we're in this together, friends, friends, friends, we're in this together. And then at the very end, Vecna's gonna use one of them to fight them all, use that friendship against has the ability to wipe them all, and it is going to cause a lot of issues, and there will be deaths with it. And it may just be will, but it ends how it started. If you think if you yeah, in a way, if you catch it started.
SPEAKER_02:So I have I have thoughts. Yes. Um one thought is I never considered Vecna using them against each other like that. Like I like I've just never thought of that being an option, right? And it's it's like when you said that the other day, I was like, oh fuck. Like that could like he could very well be backed into a corner and be like, all right, Will, you're up.
unknown:Yep, yep.
SPEAKER_02:I'm I'm tagging you in. Oh fuck. Yeah. Because he like Will, he even kind of hints to it, doesn't he? Like, he he basically makes Will in his image. Yeah, essentially, yes. And and like like Dr. Brenner, Papa, uh, he used Henry's DNA to create his little baby army of one through eleven. Yep, yep. Uh and so Henry's doing the same shit now.
SPEAKER_04:Essentially, yes.
SPEAKER_02:And Will Will Will was his first victim. Yep. And he's trying, he's trying to do that. Like, I think that's why he's getting all those kids. He's just trying to build his own army.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he's trying to build his own army.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and that's why there is something very strange happening with uh stranger things are happening. Do do do do do do do do uh what is it's okay. What is the sister's name? Holly. Holly, yeah. Why did he give her the keys to escape? Because music is the key to escape.
SPEAKER_08:That I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Right? Yeah, obviously, obviously there's a obviously there's a there's there's something probably sinister about it. Like there's something he's playing.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. So I have a I have a tiny baby theory. Uh oh. And so you guys haven't seen The Stranger Things on Broadway.
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_02:No. But it goes into it it it there's some layers into Henry Creel and like where he gets his first um his first uh interaction with I think the Mind Flayer was was in the caves where Max is. Oh, no shit.
SPEAKER_04:Remember, and that's why he's afraid to go in that's why he's afraid in it, yes.
SPEAKER_02:You only know that if you saw if you've seen the show on Broadway. No shit. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very, very and I'm sure they'll they'll probably go into more detail in the show, but like I'm privy to it because of the the Broadway show, uh, the stage show. Um, it's not a musical, it's just a play. But um right. Yeah, it's it's a little a little baby thing that they they show on stage, and it's not really a big part of the plot, but uh like they absolutely tie it in, I think. Um, which I think is really cool. But um it's got me wondering if the reason why like in for Holly she's she's in his like happy place, right?
SPEAKER_04:Yes, yes, it's a memory. It's a memory, we're gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_02:It's a m it's a memory. And there's also there's a there's a second point to this theory. Uh I'm gonna go down this first part and then I'm gonna like I wanna I wanna like kind of like uh devils advocate myself, but um so there like there is the possibility that maybe the mind flare is like the big bad and is controlling Vecna, but Henry is still there. You know what I'm saying? Because like it could be a split personality situation, yeah. Yeah where where the Vecna side of him is the mind flare, but Henry is the the the prim and proper haul what Holly sees.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:My my devil's advocate to this point is he could he could have saw how the way he tried to uh take control of Will was like by force and and fear, and how that didn't work. So he's trying to do it. Now he's trying the softer way, yeah. That could be it, but then why would he give her the keys to leave? I don't know. That's what I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Maybe maybe it could be an illusion of choice, right? Like I'm gonna I'm gonna like make you think you can escape from this, but the moment you try, she doesn't even know.
SPEAKER_02:She doesn't even know about the music being the way I correct, correct.
SPEAKER_04:Which obviously I feel like I was gonna say Max is probably gonna let her know that that's that's the one way to do it. I mean, she kind of did explain that when she when she was telling, giving her story to her about how they played the music and she had been wandering around forever, and while especially while she was in the hospital in a coma essentially, and was damn near close until you know he stopped the music playing. So I I don't know. I don't know that that those are questions that need to be answered, which I'm sure will be answered very soon. Um, I cannot wait until Christmas because we have we have more stranger things coming.
SPEAKER_02:I have another prediction I want to put out there in the world. What's your prediction? Uh so so I I you you believe that he Vecna is gonna take control of Will. Yes. I think that Max, because Max is in his head, right? Like she physically she's in the world, but her head is in she's trapped in Vecna somehow.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_02:I have a feeling that that's gonna play a key part in their victory. Probably she's gonna spend I think she's gonna spend the rest of the show in a coma, but she's gonna be fighting from the inside.
SPEAKER_04:Which is fair, which is fair. I mean it would be it wouldn't make sense.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe maybe not the whole time, but I think that I think that a majority of it, yeah. Yeah, I think until she gets out, she'll be fighting the good fight from inside.
SPEAKER_04:It'll just be interesting to see how see how that plays out. Because what is Holly's role? You know what I mean? What what what is her role? What do what's the case?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because right now their mission is to get Holly back, right? Correct. That's the plan. That's the that's the that's the mission on hand. They're the rescue, the rescue mission is get Holly. Get Holly.
SPEAKER_04:And they have no idea that Max is with her. That's right, that's the crazy part.
SPEAKER_02:So because their bot their physical bodies are in two different places, but mentally they're in the same place. Right. Which is strange.
SPEAKER_04:It's a it's one of those stranger things that goes on. So, but Yeti, yes, you said you're stoked for it.
SPEAKER_08:You got any theories or any kind of uh uh uh I mean I like we I like your theory predictions and I support and I support that theory, and I kind of said what I think is gonna happen, and it coincided with what you were thinking. Um I I mean I just like as long as the show has taken to watch because of the years and years and years of release, it's been a fun watch. It's been and and I'm very glad that it's been able to keep people's interests for that many years and only having that many seasons because to be fair, I thought after season three, because I th it wasn't season three around COVID.
SPEAKER_02:I think maybe season three was the mall and the Russians, the Russians in the mall.
SPEAKER_08:I feel like that was around COVID, and I could be wrong, it could be it could be season four, but I think what I was doing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, 2019, it was released in 2019, Stranger Things Season 3. Yeah. So season four would have been probably closer to COVID. No, it was at because 2022. So COVID COVID affected the release of season four.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, season four, yes. Okay, yeah. So it was season four. I thought the show would have hit a wall there, to be to be quite honest.
SPEAKER_04:I think most shows would have. Oh yeah, they most shows would have fallen, fallen through.
SPEAKER_08:And yeah, but yeah. Yep, yep. That's where I thought it was gonna hit development hell and everything. I wasn't I know it's successful, but I also wasn't too confident that we would be seeing what we're seeing right now. If that makes sense.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because they I for I forgot they did a volume one and volume two for season four. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_08:Because it was they and and they're and it was like a year and a half apart from each other. Uh-huh. It was because of the volume.
SPEAKER_04:Volume one was released May 27th of 2022, which was seven episodes, and volume two was only two episodes released July 1st of 2022. And they were split into two volumes with extended episode lengths and the significance. It was a highly anticipation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was a highly anticipated season with delays partly due to the COVID-19 pandemic. So season four was definitely affected by uh COVID nineteen. But yeah, that's i y you're right. I don't think I think most shows probably would have um probably wouldn't have survived uh as as Stranger Things did. Like Stranger Things absolutely persevered through COVID-19 and all that kind of stuff.
SPEAKER_08:And and they and they and they still got the following for it. Like they still got the fans, you know, for crying out loud at selling out fucking theaters.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Obviously, people are out there, right? Because I think a lot I I remember especially like the wait after season four. Um, I mean, 2022, it's 25 now, you know what I mean? That's that's three years, you know, and there was no pandemic to get through. So there was and I'm sure a lot of it had to do with scheduling because Millie Bobby Brown was starting to branch out. She did a bunch of movies and stuff like that. And I think uh a lot of the other kids, yep. I I know a lot of other kids uh started branching out too.
SPEAKER_08:God, what is his name? Uh the dad, the the the father, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, harbor. Harper, harper, harper.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, David Harper. He's he's he's been doing everything. Like he's been he's been in Marvel now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm sure a lot of it had to do with scheduling, but still, uh, I I do remember a lot of people mentioning, especially in comments and stuff, um the Red Guardian.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the Red Guardian.
SPEAKER_04:I remember uh a lot of people saying that like you know the hype is dying for season five because you're taking so long, and it's like here we are, you never died, but right. Like it was just it was just waiting. That's all it was doing.
SPEAKER_08:And and and here's the thing like I could I compare this, even though there's not as many seasons, but I compare it to like a walking dead. That's the kind of hype I had.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, you want to hear something crazy?
SPEAKER_08:And it's just oh it's just crazy that like toward the end of Walking Dead, it died down. The hype dramatically died down, it wasn't as popular after season like seven going into eight, nine or whatever.
SPEAKER_02:Because it went on too long. That's my that was my crazy thought. Over overextended, it's welcome. Yeah, yeah. Like, like the Walking Dead, like, yeah, there's a bunch of issues, right? Like, there's a like the story itself is long, but it had was it was they wrapped that up, right? Like it's already finished, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:But they now have spin-offs, they have spin-offs, though. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Of like vegan and and Rob Robert Yeah Kirkman mentioned like he wanted to do things differently in the show than he did in the comics because they have the flexibility, which is kind of what I was talking about with the last of us stuff earlier. Yep. Is like when you're when you're retelling the same story and you have an opportunity to maybe do it better because you have more access, um, then you should do that, absolutely. But I think the problem was is they they I think they that created a spider web of like, oh, we should try this, we should try this. And well, now we have now oh there's all these views, people are loving the show. Let's do Fear the Walking Dead, let's do all that, you know, like fucking Norman Reed just went to Europe or some shit, right? Like his character is in like Paris or something, and it's just like, what are we doing? Like, yeah, it's kind of cool for those that love those characters, but don't expect great success when you're starting to divide up your your main thing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you're you're you're really start you you start to divide your audience when you start branching off into so many different places. Um and I do I do know a lot of people would have preferred probably uh just just mostly just main story, main core walking dead stuff. I mean, I it's just so we're clear. Yeah, just so we're clear though, I've still not watched a single episode of The Walking Dead, just so we're clear. Which blows my mind.
SPEAKER_01:That's interesting. That's I'm honestly.
SPEAKER_04:Listen, yeah, I'm part of the 1%.
SPEAKER_08:Here's the thing I I truly believe that if you gave it a fair shake and you turned on that first season, I'm sure first season, yeah. You're just you're blown away.
SPEAKER_02:You're like I'd say the first four, maybe five seasons, solid.
SPEAKER_08:So again, so the first season, you're blowing, you're like, okay, I could I can see why people got on the hype train, and then Grizz is right. As you continue, you're gonna see the growth and the development of it, and you're gonna be like, Oh, I fucks with this. Yeah, I fucks with this, and then there is a turning point there.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and it's called after Negan. Yes, yes, after Negan, the show plummeted like a fucking rock from space.
SPEAKER_08:Um I don't know why, because to be honest, I like Negan, I like his character a hundred percent.
SPEAKER_02:Well, like I think that in the comics, didn't the didn't the comics have a bit of a lull after that too? Because it was like you you're climbing, you're climbing, you're climbing, and then there's this big climax, this big grand event, because I I don't want to go into too much detail in case Jay does watch it. Uh there's this big moment, big ass moment, and then it it just like that's where this that's where it should have ended. The pendulum swings. Yeah. And and like yeah, like like it went up and then it had to come back down.
SPEAKER_04:Yep. Well, I don't know. I don't get it. Maybe one of these days I'll get into it so I can I can rightfully talk shit.
SPEAKER_02:At least at least watch at least watch the first season because I've I promised.
SPEAKER_08:Again, I know that's the first season, he's gonna continue watching. There's no way you don't continue watching. Because you gotta keep in mind during that time frame of season one, television or or or or or or shows weren't pushed in that degree, so it was like a breath of fresh air.
SPEAKER_02:Right. And because it was an AMC show, yeah, it was like very it was like it just had a different budget. Yeah, it had a very different budget at its time, whereas like now everyone has a budget. Yeah, it feels like a show like go ahead. Yes, absolutely, yeah. Yes, because when you think about it, like a show like Fallout, it's got Amazon money. Yeah, that's a lot of things. Season one looked amazing, right? Yes, it did. Season one of The Walking Dead didn't have that kind of budget. Nope. You know, but you would have never fucking known. You would have never fucking well, I mean, maybe, maybe, but what I'm saying is like the story was so good that it didn't matter if it had bells and whistles.
SPEAKER_08:Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, because the acting, the story, like it was just solid. It was like it was like it was watching someone's pet project come to life and get real-time success. Huh? It's exactly what happened. These you know, because like Kirkman, Kirkman and Tony Moore, they're both from fucking Kentucky. They both grew up in Cynthia. They both grew up in Cynthia. They both I think they went to the same fucking high school. You know, like we you you watch this, so their comic flourished to a point where AMC was like, Yeah, we want to make this a show, and then the show blew the fuck up and completely changed the way stories are told on the silver screen, in my humblest opinions. It just went on too long because they got greedy.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's that's what it comes down to.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's what happened. Yeah, AMC probably is the main reason why. Oh, sure. Because they seen all that money coming suit. Yes, they got hella greedy, and because like he's gone off and he has Invincible is doing wonderful as an animated show. Yes, it is, so it's not Kirkman wasn't the problem. It's 100% AMC. They got too greedy.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's uh that's all that comes down to. And I if I'm not mistaken, I think Invincible isn't going to run as long as the watching. Yeah, I don't I don't have a lot of people. And maybe they might have a few more seasons. Yeah, I think they only have a few more seasons left before they reach the end of that uh reach the conclusion of that story. But you never know. One one of these days I might um I might just just so happen to give The Walking Dead a try. But that is interesting to to hear though, that you know, as big of a show as it is and well, as it was and is, uh Stranger Things is not really it hasn't lost steam. Like even with the big gap and and the limited i in the grand scheme of things, right? A as limited of a series as Stranger Things is you have almost yeah, it's only five seasons, you have just a probably just about as big of a following as uh uh The Walking Dead had, if not more, for Stranger Things. And that is saying something for a show like Stranger Things. It absolutely is.
SPEAKER_02:Stranger Things came at a really good time though.
SPEAKER_04:It did, right?
SPEAKER_02:Like society-wise, like we're so more or less isolated because of parameters with like technology and like work from home and what uh whatever. And like uh Stranger Things uh brought us back to like this community-based thing, like having friendship and like doing things with our friends and like uh the sense of family in a way, right? And the three the three different like uh perspectives, right? You got the kids, you got the young adults or teenagers, and then you got the adults, yep. Yeah, and like those three different perspectives and dynamics have grown together, and now now they're all the coolest thing about Stranger Things is watching in this fine this final season is we are watching them work together. Like that's I I don't think that that's something Vecna is expecting. Like, I don't even know if he's aware of it. Yeah, maybe he is, maybe he is, but I don't think he understands the power behind that because those kids are smart as fuck. Those teenagers are smart as fuck, young adults, and the adults are smart as fuck. Like and like they're working together, dude. They're doing what do they call them? Crawls, yeah, and like dungeon crawls, they're dungeon crawls, yeah, brother. Yeah, it's so crazy how skilled and talented they are with that.
SPEAKER_04:And that's fucking that might be something that Vecna is underestimating is that connection that they have. You know what I mean? Like Vecna has his certain connection with Will and all that kind of stuff, but he's I think he's underestimating how connected that group of people are, and and that makes them stronger in a way, so to speak.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think so, because it's you got the um we'll call it the human spirit for lack of better terms. Yeah, like that you know, that that that like uh uh unquantifiable drive, that motivator that villains don't usually understand because they're kind of um a little selfish, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:They're a little selfish.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. Yeah, and I I I think that the the the thing that's gonna tip the scales is gonna be that like human spirit of like like that family community thing that they've all been building this whole time.
SPEAKER_05:Yep, yep.
SPEAKER_02:Because like we saw glimpses of it in season four, right? Because like the kids and the teenagers, you know, like Nancy and Steve and them, like they're working with Dustin and Mike, and you know, like they're they're working together, and like they worked out all those kinks in season four. So now season five, they're like a well-oiled machine, bro. Like, right, Nancy knock them down, Wheeler.
SPEAKER_05:Like Nancy, don't fucking mean she's cold, she's cold as fucks.
SPEAKER_08:Yo, yo, cold as ice, and yo, that fucking demo gordon fucking took out her mom. Yeah, and she's fucking hot right now.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I'm I can't wait to see her go on a tear. I think she's on John Wick status at this point. After after after after her mom, yeah. I think I think she's gonna be on John Wick status. I think she's absolutely going to be like Vecna. I will tear anything apart that you send my way.
SPEAKER_08:Um, what's the dude's name? Oh my god, I see it. He had a blue shirt on and he fought ghost and shit. And he had a chainsaw.
SPEAKER_04:Who? Uh Ash from Evil Dead?
SPEAKER_08:Yes. Yeah, Ash. That's the vibe I'm getting.
SPEAKER_04:When he when he when he attached the chainsaw to his cutoff arm. That's the vibe. That's the vibe I'm getting with with her right now. Yeah, she's she don't she don't take no mess, man.
SPEAKER_08:Yes, you've got to be a good one. Nancy, Nancy, I love her character.
SPEAKER_02:She's one of my favorite characters.
SPEAKER_04:So fun fact, and um, and it ca I just want to bring it up because we're we're we're glazing Nancy right now, which you know to be to be it's deserved, yeah, rightfully so. Yeah, um, they are doing a spin-off that's following Nancy and somebody else. I can't remember, I can't remember who. Yes, but it's supposed to be like a um like a like a who-done it where she's just solving solving crimes and shit like that.
SPEAKER_02:Dude, she's basically Batman.
SPEAKER_01:She is, she honestly is. She she is terrorism shit.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, yeah, yes, dude. They're in the hospital trying to like talk to her mom, and like uh Mike, Mike is like, like, what do we do? And you know, they try to talk to the doctor, and he's like, and he's like being all sexist and shit. And he's like, Go ahead, honey, like just go sit down. The adults got this. And Mike just gave up, and she's like, Nah, we like come on.
SPEAKER_08:And then I also want to, I wanna, I wanna glaze Dustin a little bit too because I like his character this season. Yeah like he's getting it's showing what like self-preservation is and and the will to continue on, and and when you get knocked down, you get back up and you just keep moving forward, like that is what he's doing right now. And just kudos to fucking Dustin, like hands down, kudos to Dustin.
SPEAKER_04:Just so we're clear, since we're glazing Dustin right now, and again, rightfully so, when me and my sister were watching this and Dustin got his ass kicked, he got jumped. And when they were all like, we gotta meet here at this time, and nobody knew they only asked about Dustin one time. We're like, Does nobody give a fuck about Dustin? Why is nobody asking about Dustin? Why has nobody gone to look for Dustin? Like, what the hell?
SPEAKER_02:I was a little mad that they because they basically like one of them was like he's never late, and then like like because Steve Steve's bent out of shape. Yes, because him and Dustin were really tight, right? And like after the death of Eddie, they drove a wedge between Dustin and everyone else. Yep. Well, I'm saying the death of Eddie because I'm convinced he's still fucking alive. Oh, he's dead. He dead, brother. He's dead. He's dead. I'm holding on, I'm holding on to the fact that Vecna might be using him in some capacity. We have four more episodes of me to decide, of me hoping, okay? Just let me have my hope.
SPEAKER_04:Let me, I need that, I deserve something today.
SPEAKER_02:Right? Come on now, but uh you mean to tell me they didn't get enough footage from last year. No, we can't have one fucking flashback season.
SPEAKER_04:No, we're not no, Eddie's gone. Eddie Eddie's gone. You're gonna have to come to terms with that, just like Dustin.
SPEAKER_02:The next you're gonna say Argyle's gone.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Now, dude, talk about the dirtiest thing in history. Oh, yeah. Argyle, Argyle getting written out a season five makes zero sense. Like they might use such a pivotal character.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, they might they might talk about it though. They might talk about it though. They might they might say something.
SPEAKER_02:You know what I can't I guess because he's from California, right? And it makes sense to because they're in Hawkins now. Yes. So it makes sense to keep like for him to like it makes sense for him to not move.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, but he kind of he kind of went through the shit with them.
SPEAKER_02:Like that's what I'm saying. Like why not go with them? For him to just be gone, gone, like like he don't he doesn't have to go with them, but for him for like like whatever. Like they he should be a part of the fucking story in some cards.
SPEAKER_04:Grizz is so upset that Argyle is not in this, yeah, brother.
SPEAKER_00:My is that my dude, my chill dude.
SPEAKER_04:He he was, he was, he was very chill. But um, nah, I I I I I I'm almost willing to bet that we'll have some sort of flashback, something about Argyll. But then again, I don't know. They may you know, they may not. They they may just say they're gonna be able to do it.
SPEAKER_02:Honestly, they probably won't. I think they're just gonna let it cut, you know.
SPEAKER_04:Which is wild to me because that storyline of season two when when 11 found uh found basically like her sister and all the other uh children, the the other I thought they let that go. I thought they let that die.
SPEAKER_01:I honestly don't I'm I'm kind of mad that that came back. It came back, and like like you, you gave up Eddie and Argyle for that, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:This is like this some bullshit. This is some bullshit.
SPEAKER_00:Like you lucky you got Will, Will the Wonderful over here. Yes, right.
SPEAKER_02:I'm gonna I'm gonna let it go because we got we got fucking white-eyed Will over here.
SPEAKER_04:Will Will's gonna be a freaking force. He absolutely is. But when at the end of that episode, though, when they when they opened that door and she was like, Oh my god, it's not Vecna. They don't have Vecna in here, they have my sister in here. So now I'm like, okay, so now eight is is this ridiculously strong? Is that what we're talking about here? Is that what we're gonna lean into now? Is like she's gonna play she's gonna play a very big part now. Just so regular.
SPEAKER_08:Oh, wait, wait, wait. The girl that was like from season two a long time ago. Yes, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's gonna play a part, 100%.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah, obviously, obviously for sure. My so you know what I think is gonna happen? I think that she the reason why the lab caught her is I think she's on Vecna's side. I think Vecna already won her over.
SPEAKER_04:They have it has to be something.
SPEAKER_02:She's so anti-establishment, anti-everything. Right. And like her her and L kind of rift in that regard. Yes, they do.
SPEAKER_08:To be honest with you, this is what I think is gonna form together all wrong. Uh-oh. I think all these children are gonna form together and form like an ultralion. And is it gonna just be a ultra lion? What's an kiddie?
SPEAKER_04:Okay, hold on. Before you continue on, what is an ultra lion?
SPEAKER_08:Like, I don't know, like a giant robot. Like vultrium together. Like, like one's gonna form the arm, one's gonna form the other arm. And they I got the head.
SPEAKER_03:And they're gonna fucking just come out on the big screen with the case.
SPEAKER_08:It's gonna be fucking will in the chest with or in the eyes, and it's gonna be one-eyed fucking robot.
SPEAKER_04:Stop it. They're not that this isn't it. Went from went from stranger things to mighty morphine power rangers. Like, what are we talking about here? What are we doing? What are we doing?
SPEAKER_01:No, I know what that's probably not gonna happen.
SPEAKER_04:That's that's Yeti's uh prediction. That's his theory, isn't it? And I'll form the head. Um, but no, like, like she has to obviously there's some sort of connection between eight and Vecna because just from Elle kind of doing her little mind walk or whatever, and and thinking, just thinking that Vecna is in that room. There's gotta be there has to be something there because they thought it was Vecna.
SPEAKER_08:What right, what triggered it to be Vecna?
SPEAKER_04:Right. What why did she think it was Vecna and not Eight? So there has to obviously there's something there.
SPEAKER_02:They had no idea where Vecna was, right? And that's why they thought he was he was in that room. Yeah, but she can't see it.
SPEAKER_04:But again, right, but what leads you to the conclusion? Obviously, there's something there. That's why I'm saying eight is obviously powerful for her to think that it's Vecna. She went there, she went, she did her little mind walk and felt a presence in that room so bad enough that she thought it was Vecna.
SPEAKER_08:Yes, that means the connection. I see your interpretation is so strong that it's bleeding into what other what she is feeling.
SPEAKER_02:Because my interpretation was she couldn't she couldn't see behind that door because of the equipment that suppresses the power, people with the power, right? Right, right. Right? And to Elle's knowledge, the only other person that would be affected by that suppression is Vecna is Vecna. Yeah, she she she never fathomed that it would be her sister 8. Well, like that's not even like at that point, she forgot, yeah, right? Like even Elle was like, yeah, we wrote her off, right? That was easy. Wait, who I thought we axed this? We axed this email. I don't even remember that eyeliner. Right.
SPEAKER_04:I don't I don't I don't remember CCing you on that email.
SPEAKER_02:Um so that was my interpretation. I mean, she she could so one tracked about Vecna that she thought was Vecna. Yeah, that very well could be, but for me, I never even thought about her being that powerful.
SPEAKER_04:You know what I'm saying? Because that that was her thing. She was like, there's something behind that door. I feel it. Like, I've there's some and for you to for it to be that powerful of a presence that you think it's Vecna, eight has to be like ridiculously strong. Now, how strong is strong, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. I can't wait for Christmas Day. Is it Christmas Eve or day?
SPEAKER_04:I think it's Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve is when they get released. I'm pretty sure. Or New Year's Day. I for I forget how they're lining how they're lining that up because I know with the uh with the three being released, I'm pretty sure they want you to watch all of it, and they're probably on the assumption that most people are gonna be off Chris uh Christmas Eve so they can watch it all.
SPEAKER_02:Christmas Eve slash Christmas Day.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, three volumes on November 26th, December 25th, and December 21st.
SPEAKER_04:Okay, so Christmas Day and then New Year's Eve. So I had it, I had it twisted. Okay, so there you go. Yeah, there you go. Which I'm cool with. We'll just have to we just gotta make sure that we that we watch uh those episodes.
SPEAKER_02:I'll be watching them on Christmas Day.
SPEAKER_08:So you said it's the 25th, yes.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, Christmas is the one. Are you gonna wait until New Year's Eve to watch all of it, or are you gonna watch the three and then also last one?
SPEAKER_04:I'm watching the three and then the last one because the because the three we're gonna discuss because we record we record that weekend after uh the three. And then we got we're gonna do our extra lives episode the following week for finale. Okay, okay, okay. So I'm gonna go ahead. I mean, since we're recording Sunday, I can now wait until at least Saturday because I work Friday. You know what I mean? So I can I can at least wait until Saturday to watch it, and then Sunday we can it can be fresh in my mind and we could talk chat about it Sunday afternoon and then New Year's.
SPEAKER_02:I might do the same actually. I might I might watch it Saturday night because I since my schedule, right? I get off at 7 30, come home, grab food, take a shower, and then like just watch it through the night. Yep, bang out those three episodes, and then be fresh in my mind for the episode. Yeah, that's a smart idea.
SPEAKER_04:That's kind of where I want to be at since we're gonna record on Sunday. That'll work in our favor. And then and then New Year's Eve, because that's December 31st. I'm off New Year's Day, the first of January. So we can at least watch it New Year's Eve. It's one episode, it's two, it's two hours and five minutes long. I'm sure we can all stand away. That's a movie. Yeah, that is a movie. So we can watch that New Year's Eve and then come back New Year's Day or do it live on New Year's Eve. It's really up to you guys on how you want to work that extra lives episode.
SPEAKER_02:We're bringing it to you live.
SPEAKER_04:We'll write it and do it live.
SPEAKER_08:That would be kind of cool that we'll do this shit live.
SPEAKER_02:Right?
SPEAKER_08:That would be cool.
SPEAKER_02:I would I wouldn't have what day is New Year's Eve on?
SPEAKER_04:Uh it's a Wednesday. It's Wednesday and a Thursday.
SPEAKER_02:Wednesdays, my dudes.
SPEAKER_06:Wednesday, my dudes.
SPEAKER_02:So I mean I work Wednesday, but I don't know. I haven't looked at the schedule yet because they've been doing some shifting around. So I might I might have I might have New Year's Day off. I forget what day I have off. I may have to change. My bots changed everything. Oh you might have to.
SPEAKER_08:Yeah, because there's just a long stuff that I gotta do. And I can hear her screaming up there.
SPEAKER_02:Oh no, you're good. You're good.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, we're we're I'm sure we're about to because we just gotta do we just gotta do fun and games and then and then all that stuff. So if you gotta go, you gotta go.
SPEAKER_08:I'm gonna start off though so I can kind of take care of some stuff and start what I gotta do. Absolutely. All right, dude. Peace out, guys. I'll talk to y'all.
SPEAKER_04:Till later. Yep, yep. Yep. All right. So and then there were two. But um, yeah, just to just to kind of button this up because I do I do want to get out there and and shovel all this fucking snow out of the driveway.
SPEAKER_02:Um, but I want to get to movement and shit.
SPEAKER_04:Right, but to button it up, um, like you said, we I'm pretty sure we've said everything we needed to say about Stranger Things. Um, it's it's obviously been highly anticipated. People are still loving it. Uh there it's it's a great show. It's it's a fantastic show to know that this is going to be the final season and we will get no more stranger things. I mean, yeah, it's kind of bittersweet, right? Because you don't want your favorite show to end, but at the same time, I want my favorite show to end because I don't want it to run forever, you know, like I agree.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's well, I like I like something that is good, like good enough for re-watchability, right? And I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm never gonna rewatch The Walking Dead, yeah. Like that's just too long. Yeah, most people aren't. Furthermore, I dipped out after season six because I was like, okay, like after the Negan shit, I stopped watching because like I I literally was like, this is kind of boring. Oh wow, like I really don't care about the I don't care about the direction they were headed, yeah. You know, and and like that's a risk you run when you when you ex have a thing that it goes on too long, you know. Yeah, it's hard to keep the the juices, you know.
SPEAKER_04:You overstay your welcome and everybody's attention span starts to kind of dwindle down, and they're like, Okay, I can we move on to the next thing, because you know, this that's just what right now I can re-watch Stranger Things and not get bored.
SPEAKER_02:Season one I've seen too many times, so I because okay, what what we did is like we watched season one, season two's coming out. Let's rewatch season one, yep, season two, and then you were like we're gonna watch season one, two, yep. Exactly. So by the time I watch season four, I've seen season one four times. Yeah, I can't do it anymore. I can't do it again. I don't think season one is that good that it's worth watching five times. Yes, but I will say season season two is okay. I for me, I usually like with the watch the rewatch, I start as season three. That's fair. Because I think I think season three is where it picks up and it's good enough. Like I've seen the first two seasons enough that I can start from season three.
SPEAKER_04:That's fair. That's fair. Yeah, but those of you listening, um, I told you it was gonna be kind of full of spoilers. Uh, I don't think we did terrible, but yes, there are spoilers as far as what Will does and and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. If you had if you stuck with us, you can let us know. Are you looking forward to the rest of uh this final season? Are you like, meh, are you over it? Let us know how you feelin'. Now I gotta finish this painting, dude. Yeah, you you you do because especially with his new armor. Yeah, his new look. He looks dope.
SPEAKER_02:Bro, Ozempik made it to Stranger Things? That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04:He said, you know, I really want to lose some pounds here.
SPEAKER_02:Have you seen the side by side? Yes, because like it's crazy. Season four, he's in like a bodysuit in season season five, it's obviously CG. CGO cap.
SPEAKER_04:Yep, CGL. Which I again die, bro. Yeah, I'm not I'm not mad about it because he looked he looks like he looks dope.
SPEAKER_02:He looks dope as he got that he got that Thanos warrior look. Yes, he does.
SPEAKER_04:He looks ready for war.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, he got his battle suit on, bro.
SPEAKER_04:This is how I got my groove back. Oh, is that it?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, I ain't about to get punked by no kids.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, exactly. He said, You you fool me once.
SPEAKER_00:Watch his bitch exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Bro, when he grabbed Will, when he grabbed Will and just like levitated him to him, I was like, God.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, damn, brother. Like, chill. Vector wasn't playing. He was he was not playing. He's he's he's mad. He's big mad. Yeah. I I think he's got he's got a he's got a bone to pick with everybody. So yeah. Um, but yeah, we'll we'll we'll kind of wrap this up. I do want to finish this up by saying, because uh I want to piggyback on something that you talked about, um, especially when we mentioned the connection that uh the the the group has and that Vecna could be uh underestimating. But it is interesting that that is a very huge underlying message that a lot of shows want to stress is connection and having the you know, as as some people would say, they won through the power of friendship. Okay, well they won through having a strong connection is is what it was, right? Community. Yeah, community, because it the way Dragon Ball Super ended. Right. Um uh Jiren was was wanted to be strong by himself. He didn't want people helping him in what he did, right? Goku has his whole community behind him, and Jiren realizes that at the end of the at the end of the termin tournament of power, where him and Frieza, Goku and Frieza are literally fighting side by side, they hate each other. Yeah, but you know they share a common enemy, right? They share a common enemy, which creates a community. So it's like oh, this is the power of trust. Yes, even though I don't like this guy, I'm gonna trust him to get it done, right? Because that we have a common goal.
SPEAKER_02:So that is so isn't that a lesson to fucking learn for life? Hello, ding ding, right?
SPEAKER_04:Like clock it, you don't have to clock it. You don't have to like the person next to you, bro. You don't have to, but if you have a common goal, you work together to get there. It doesn't matter your differences, you work together.
SPEAKER_02:It's not about being best friends, it's about working together and just understanding other people's differences. I be telling people that all the time. You don't have to like them. You don't, dude, it's right in front of you. Yeah, you know, like for all of us, it's like the answers oftentimes are right in front of us, but right in front of you. But the problem, the problem is maturity level and acceptance. Yep. That's all that's people are too immature to realize what they need to accept, and that's all it comes out. That's okay. I think I think eventually people will find it, but it I hope, right?
SPEAKER_04:I don't think it's gonna be in our lifetime, my dude. I I honestly it's gonna be slow. That's exhausting. It is exhausting, it is, it truly is. But what do we do about that? The best that you can. As I as I've told you before, you use your talents, right, to spread your awareness or however you want to do it, and you create that community of people that you know again, we don't you don't have to like each other. You can have differing opinions, you can have all of that. It doesn't mean that I hate you as a human, right? Just because I disagree with something you said doesn't mean that I wish ill will on you. That's that's not how that works, my guy. Like, right? Like that's that's not how that works. I have to be able to trust you though, and knowing that you want the same as me. Once we get once we have once our goals align, it's okay to be different. We just need to work together at getting to that goal. And that and I think that got lost somewhere along the line. And and and a lot of a lot of stories will will stress that for you. I mean, again, my hero, we talked a lot about it. Baku Go and and Deku's rivalry. Uh Bakugo, you know, he they're different, right? He doesn't yeah, he probably necessarily doesn't like Deku, because you know, he they're rivals in a way, right?
SPEAKER_02:But he he respects he always found it, he always found him annoying when they were kids, right?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because Deku was always right behind him.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he didn't have a quirk, you know, and he's like, uh, you're this normal human being. Like, what do you like? Get away from me, you scum. Yeah, you bunk. And like that was just uh that was that was Bakuga's like arrogance, right? Yes, and then and then he got humbled when Deku got power, yep, and was like, Look, like like just because you have power doesn't make you something, exactly. You know, exactly like the power is there to help you, yes, but it's not it's a tool, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:It's a tool, yeah. It doesn't define you though, because what you do with it is what defines you, and if you're just gonna be an asshole, then you're gonna be an asshole. That's that's all that is. So that's why I said that's why I just want I just wanted to bring that up because a lot of stories have that underlying uh message to send to people, and I think it just falls on deaf ears a lot of the time.
SPEAKER_02:But I think I think you're right. I think the people that need to hear it, the people that need to hear it often don't hear it, and the people that already understand it are like, hello. Yeah, it's right there.
SPEAKER_04:Right? It's literally right there. They're telling you, they're telling you the same thing a lot of people have been telling you. So but yeah, just to just to wrap that up, I just wanted to, you know, put that little cherry on top there. Um, but if you if you're liking stranger things, let us know. If not, let us know. We want to hear either way. Um but with that, uh, we're gonna do some fun and games real quick. And since it's just us two, I want to ask you a question, sir. Yes. Would you rather A be given one million dollars or B have ten carries in an NFL game to gain five yards for ten million dollars? One million with no work, one million guaranteed, or ten carries in an NFL game to gain five yards for ten million dollars. Ten million dollars for uh five yards.
SPEAKER_02:I get ten I get ten tries, though.
SPEAKER_04:You get you get ten tries, you have to gain five yards.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. I think because I like it I like to challenge myself, I would like to try to gain five yards for ten million dollars. Really? Yes. Really? At my current state, at my current state, I I think okay, here's how I justify this, Jay. Kurt motherfucking cousins is the same goddamn age as me. And if that boy can do it, goddamn it. I can do it. I'm not saying I can be quarterback, but if you give me the ball, it you just I gotta just I just gotta try to get five yards and I get ten tries. Yeah, you get ten tries. I I think I have a chance. Do I think I can do it? I think in order for me to believe I can do it, I have to believe I can do it. Yeah, so I have to commit to believing I can do it. But you're giving me 10 tries. That's a big commitment.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it is it is 10 tries, but them big ass bodies that are trying to stop you from gaining five yards.
SPEAKER_02:But I got I got a I got a line, right?
SPEAKER_04:Again, and now now imagine if you have the line as bad as the bangers.
SPEAKER_02:I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_04:Hold on, wait a minute. No, no, no, no. We didn't we didn't say all that. Um you didn't say I had to do it with the bangers. That might change my answer. Um, but no, I mean you have 10 carries, so I gotta assume you're gonna be a running back. So 10 carries to get five yards. So you would like to try. You're either running up the gut or you're taking it outside. Are you quick enough to get outside where nobody's gonna touch you, or are you strong enough to run up the gut?
SPEAKER_02:I I think I personally, because I'm crazy, I think I I think I have a sense of delusion. He said right up the middle that I can right up the middle, baby. Like just call me Corey Dillon.
SPEAKER_04:Absolutely. Absolutely, right up the middle. Call me, call me beast mode. I am Marshawn Lynch. I am gonna get five yards on the first game.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't say that. I didn't say that. It's gonna take me all 10 years. He said, give me my 10 million pro.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I would love to try it. Okay. Win, lose, or draw. I think that I would want to try it. That's just to know if I could do it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Could you imagine could you imagine?
SPEAKER_02:If you ask me this question in 10 years, I'm taking the one mil. Yeah. But right now, I have enough in the tank that I would try. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_04:I want the get I want the guaranteed money. I'm 100% getting a million dollars. I'm taking the money. No, I would I would probably say I would like you, I would like to see if I could do it. I would like to see if I could pull off five yards and ten carries for ten million dollars. I mean, ten tries for five yards?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Listen, if I can get a yard. Yeah, if I can get a yard every two tries, I'm good.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Now, now the the bad part is they could drive me back. Yeah. Like, you know, like my first my first attempt, they could drive me back five yards, and it's like, fuck.
SPEAKER_04:Which is why you need a solid enough line to make it happen. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If you're dealing with the Bengals line, hmm. Hey, chill. Chill. Hey, man. Hey, bruh.
SPEAKER_01:We have a game today.
SPEAKER_06:Calm down.
SPEAKER_01:Right? Like, come on now. Oh I might be wearing the Seahawks, but I still root. I'm still rooting for the Bengals. Black and orange until I die, baby.
SPEAKER_04:So I hate it.
SPEAKER_01:I hate it, but it's true.
SPEAKER_04:Listen, some people will call us gluttons for punishment because they know we know what we're getting into, right?
SPEAKER_00:It's like a I'm a bit of a masochist, if you will.
SPEAKER_04:Loki, I'm a masochist. I like it. I like it a lot.
SPEAKER_00:I like the feeling of let down.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, that's what it is. I love heartbreak. That's the greatest. It's the greatest thing ever. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:It reminds me I'm I'm still here, you know.
SPEAKER_04:Right, right, right. It it makes me feel something. Exactly. Alright, so the two of us would at least try for the 10 million, and I'm I'm good with that. I would like to hear Yeti's input and Templeton's input. Is he still sleeping, by the way?
SPEAKER_02:100%.
SPEAKER_04:Do you hear him snoring?
SPEAKER_02:Uh not at the moment, but it comes and goes.
SPEAKER_04:I gotcha. Okay. Um so we'll get their take. Hey, if anyone listening, let us know what you would do. Would you go guaranteed money? Give me my million, call it a day. Or would you try your luck? Ten carries, five yards, ten million dollars. Mmm. I think it would be worth it at least to try.
SPEAKER_02:So I think so.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I uh I a hundred percent I think it'd be worth uh it would be worth it to try. What have you got to lose? 10 million dollars, right? But you didn't have the 10 million to begin with, right? So you're not really out of anything.
SPEAKER_02:I'm I'm betting zero and I'm gaining ten mil.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I guess I guess on one hand I'm betting one million, but it's still I'm uh yeah, but I only get that one million by accepting the conditions. Exactly. Exactly. So I'm still starting with zero, right? And I think it's worth it. I I think so too. I think it would be that's the only way I'm gonna take a$10 million risk.
SPEAKER_04:Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because if I lose nothing, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04:Like I have nothing, I have nothing to lose. Cool, awesome. Yeah, but most people will look at it as I have ten million dollars to lose. No, you don't have that 10 million yet. You have to get the five million.
SPEAKER_02:Because if I accept the other condition, then I don't get the one million. Right. If I lose.
SPEAKER_04:That's that's well, well, yeah, that's fair. Which which I guess if you're smart enough to invest in all that, you could turn one million into ten million, but no, you can't.
SPEAKER_02:No, you can't. We we normal people, we cannot turn one million into ten million. I couldn't. No, I don't I don't think like that's what I'm saying. Like, normal people, we don't have the right connections. I mean if I if I got a million dollars and I went out and was like, hey, I got a million dollars, I'm gonna just get robbed. I mean like someone's gonna be like, yeah, invest invest into my invest in my tech company, bro. And now my my is gone.
SPEAKER_04:Here's here's what if there's anything that I don't know if you've seen the movie Mr. Brooks with uh No, I haven't. Kevin Costner, I think it is. Yo, if you haven't, watch it. Really fucking good movie, really good movie. But if anything, if there's anything I've learned in life, Mr. Brooks taught me that there's one thing you should invest in, and that is funeral homes. Why? Because they're never going anywhere. We always need people are always dying.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. You know, another another honest industry that is uh not a bad thing to get into hotels. Yeah, hospitality. Yep, hospitality.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because people are always gonna need some place to stay, right? Whenever they go out of town or anything like that. Hotels, hospitality, whatever it is, that is a good investment. So, two things that you that you'll learn on this on this podcast. There you go. If you learn anything, invest in those two things.
SPEAKER_02:Go ahead and put us in the educational bracket. Don't do that.
SPEAKER_04:Don't do that. I'm joking. Don't do that. Can you imagine? Can you imagine the algorithms all of a sudden? Oh, that's educational. No, no. No, no, no, no. Not this mess.
SPEAKER_01:Oh no, no.
SPEAKER_04:Oh no, no, no.
SPEAKER_01:Why are you running? We quickly turned right back into Bray Ross.
SPEAKER_04:Well, that didn't last long. Anyway. Would you like a fun fact, sir? Yes, please. Okay. Let me clear my throat for this. That Mars isn't actually round. Mars isn't round, but when we see it, it looks round. So it might have something to do with a missing ancient moon named Nereo.
SPEAKER_02:It's not Nereo anymore. It's not a Nereo.
SPEAKER_04:It's far away, yo. So Mars may look like a sphere, but it's actually a triaxial ellipsoid. Or it kind of looks like a rugby ball. Unlike any other rocky planet in the solar system, it's shaped rather like a rug rather like a rugby ball with but with different sizes along all three axes. This is most evident as a prominent bulge in elevation in the Tharsis Rise region and in an almost diametrically opposite region called Sir Cyrtis Major, I think. Uh uh if I'm if I'm uh if you're smart and into astronomy, uh please correct me. Uh astronomy. Astronomer Dr. Michael Ephro Ephroimis Ephroimiski, I murdered that name, of the US Naval Observatory uh recently re uh proposed that this weird shape may be explained by a missing ancient moon of Mars. This moon named Nereo, after a Roman war goddess who was Mars' partner, altered the shape of Mars with tidal forces, much as Earth's moon does with the planet's oceans. But as Mars cooled, its distorted shape was eventually permanently frozen in place. The stress of Nereo's tidal forces also made the raised regions of Mars weaker and more prone to warping geological forces, such as internal convection, tectonic shifts, and volcanic eruptions. These all contributed to Mars's asymmetry. Researchers suggest that a moon of less than a third of the mass of our own in a synchronous synchronous orbit around Mars could easily create the planet's initial triaxial shape. The equatorial bulge would have been even bigger if Nereo had existed while Mars still had magma oceans. Of course, Mars no longer has such a moon, just tiny di uh daimos and phobos. So at some point Nereo was either destroyed or gravitationally removed from the Martian system by another large body. Damn. So there you go. Science! Space! It's scary.
SPEAKER_02:That's crazy. Isn't it crazy? I I I still think that like the reason why we exist on Earth is because humans were on Mars or Martians were on Mars and just colonized Earth.
SPEAKER_04:Because they were like, this planet is dying. We need to do that.
SPEAKER_02:I think they just there's a part of me, not all of me. There's a small sliver of me that believes that that could be a reality.
SPEAKER_04:Listen, anything is possible. Nobody fully knows that I don't have enough evidence to support this theory, but I know we're Martians, I just can't prove it.
SPEAKER_02:But wait, like I there's just a lot of some similarities to Mars and Earth.
SPEAKER_04:There are.
SPEAKER_02:And like, you know, there used to be water, now there's not water. Like, what if what if they did some shit? Yeah and was like, you know what? What if what if that's why Elon knows about Mars and wants to like colonize and terraform it? Because his like bloodline.
SPEAKER_04:The musks are literally just actual aliens, and they're like Yeah, they're just trying to get back to their planet because remember Mars. Remember. Remember. I mean, again, anything is possible. We don't know the full extent of anything. Um, I did hear that the moon um is actually just part of Earth. I heard that it was like billions or millions, should I say, millions of years ago, Earth was hit by a pretty big asteroid and a part of it came off, and that was the moon. Yeah, which is why which is why they say when they went up there they found a lot of minerals on the moon that you find on Earth because it was part of the Earth anyway. So how true that is, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:Isn't there also man? I haven't really thought about this in a long time. I remember learning like, wasn't the creation of the moon also like the extinction of dinosaurs? Like that meteor that struck? Isn't that the same thing, or no? Am I wrong?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know. I I have no idea. I I again I'd have to look look into that.
SPEAKER_02:Shit, what if we what if we came from Mars and impacted the Earth and wiped the dinos out and created the moon all at the same time?
SPEAKER_04:Buddy, anything was packed. Think about it, clock it. Oh, how how crazy that all of a sudden we it all sounds crazy until the dots connect.
SPEAKER_00:Right, right.
SPEAKER_04:It's crazy till it isn't anymore. Um no, there was there was a there's been a guy on TikTok, which you you mentioned, you bringing up the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. There's been there's a guy on TikTok that I was watching, and he was like, So you expect me to believe that uh uh a rock hit the earth and killed all the dinosaurs? And he was like, We dropped two nuclear bombs on a on on a continent and they didn't wipe out the entirety of Japan. So and everybody's been like, Yeah, that's because it wasn't a seven mile long piece of rock fell down and hit the earth 40,000 miles per hour.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. What that shit hit the earth so hard it knocked us off axis, I'm pretty sure.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, pretty, pretty different, my guy. I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:That's so funny. But also think about that, right? Like like a a meteor or asteroid, whatever it was, the the defining term that smacked the earth and like caused enough of a global atmospheric change that it destroyed the living living conditions for for things that lived at that time. Yep. If you if you think about it. Because I wonder, like, do you think do you think it just like it just disrupted the natural order and then like everything because so did things die immediately? Or was it? No, no, no.
SPEAKER_04:It took a while. It took the that they kind of they have an idea of what happened. Like, do they know exactly what happened? Obviously not, but they have a pretty good, they're 99.9% sure that when the asteroid hit the planet, because here's the thing. Um, I think it was Mount Mount St. Helena, maybe one of the volcanoes years ago, when they erupted, there it wasn't here, right? But when it erupted, it covered, it sent ash all the way over here to the United States, right? And that was with the power of like I'm trying to think of how many nuclear bombs it was, but it was definitely more than just two, right? So when the meteor that hit Earth uh when the dinosaurs were around, I want to say it was somewhere upwards of like 10 billion nuclear bombs going off at the same damn time. And it and everything in its immediate vicinity, yes, got vaporized because that's a lot of heat happening, right? It's kind of like a nuclear bomb would. So everything in its immediate vicinity got eradicated. Um, it liquefied the surface of the planet because of how fast it came. It liquefied it and shot everything up into the air, and everything obviously had to come back down. You want to know why? Gravity and it so did it turn into acid rain, right? Uh essentially, yes. And and and of course, you know, had the big old cloud coverage, you know the story, um, cover the entire planet eventually, because you know, wind carries shit and eventually blotted out the sun, right? And which means plants can now no longer photosynthesize, so their food source is gone. Yep. And then what eats, you know, which dinosaurs ate the plants, the herbivores. So they were kind of like one of the first ones to go because their food, their food source is now gone, and the carnivores that fed off of those guys, well, they're gonna die too because their food source is going away. So it took time, it took a lot of time. It didn't just happen like, oh, tomorrow, the next day, all of the dinosaurs were dead. That's not how it worked. You know, and I think I think I think in his mind, that's the way that they he thinks that's the way it happened. Meteor hits, everything dies. Like, no, that's that's not how it worked. Everything died around the impact point, right? Everything in that immediate vicinity, yeah, it died very fast. Very fast, very fast.
SPEAKER_02:You know what? Instantly, some would say.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, instantly, instantly cooked and vaporized. Like they they were dead before they knew what the fuck was going on. So I hope that happens with us. Low-key, yeah. I don't want to feel it. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, yeah, yeah. But I th I think that's where it's kind of like, you know, the the the miscommunication is. I think that's where the disconnect is. Like they think it's just immediate, like, okay, everything's gone. Like, no, it took it took time, and then eventually the earth, you know, everything, you know, the the cloud of dust went away, the sun started shining again, and guess what popped up? Plants, microorganisms that eventually evolved into what we know now today. So I'm sorry, science is difficult for some folks, but power, knowledge is power.
SPEAKER_02:Knowledge is power. Yes, it is. Similar, similar thing uh could happen with Yellowstone. Yes, if you look at the stone volcano. If that thing goes off, like I don't think it's gonna like end the world, but the science, I mean we it could, we don't know. Yeah, it could. But science scientists predict that it will absolutely change North America. Yes, it will. Yes, it will. Like we will all be affected from California to New York. Yep.
SPEAKER_04:Because I I'm pretty sure the ash cloud, because it at first they said like the eastern seaboard.
SPEAKER_02:I live closer to it now.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, you do, much closer. Like that whole entire west coast is gone if that thing goes off.
SPEAKER_02:Like I basically signed a death wish moving out.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, essentially. But like if if it happens in my lifetime, I was gonna say nobody knows when it's gonna go off. Yeah, nobody knows when it's gonna go off.
SPEAKER_02:I I've heard like, you know, experts say that it's like everything's always long overdue. Everything's long overdue.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, yes, everything. The the fault that we live near, uh over here on the east, east coast that you know 200 years ago uh made the Mississippi River flow backwards and ring church bells in Maryland from way down like south.
SPEAKER_02:That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, that's that's nuts, but that's been overdue because the the the timeline of it it shifts every like 200 years. It's been over 200 years. We're due for it to shift.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so they say Mount Rainier. Mount Rainier is the big mountain outside Seattle. Yep. They they say that that mountain's overdue for like a uh major eruption. Yeah, it's all gonna happen at once. Probably. Could you imagine? Like, um like low-key, I would like to witness it if I could survive the witnessing, yes, because it would be kind of cool, it would be fascinating to witness every volcano on this earth going off at the same time. It'd be fascinating but terrifying all at the same time. It would be it would only be terrifying because you know that you're gonna die. Well, like I said, if you if you could survive it, it would be fascinating to witness. It's it's if you saw a video of it, like when I watch videos of volcanoes erupting, I'm like, yes, that's amazing. But if I was standing there, I'd be shitting.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you're like, again, I'm fascinated, but I'm also terrified. But here's the thing even if I'm not in the mean in the immediate vicinity of something like that happening, knowing that it's happening and there's nothing, and I mean nothing we can do to stop it. That is that's that's next level shit. You know what I'm saying? Like that is that that puts things into perspective that you have zero control, just so we're clear. You have zero control. If this universe wanted to wipe us out, it could. We are literally one seven-mile meteor long from just not existing. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's a type of shit we should be pioneering. Yes, but instead, we're building big, beautiful walls.
SPEAKER_01:We're signing big, beautiful bills. It's gonna be huge, it's gonna be big beautiful ballrooms, data centered underneath.
SPEAKER_04:Right, we're we're we're we're arguing. I'm convinced they're putting a data center underneath that ballroom. Probably all for all for AI, that's all it is. Yeah, so but anyway, um, there you have it. Mars is rugby ball shaped. Um so yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah, really.
SPEAKER_04:Um, so anyway, we'll we'll wrap this up because we're way over time. Um, and I have stuff to do. So uh please do not forget uh Magic Mind.
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SPEAKER_02:Fuck it, fuck it, we'll do it later to us.
SPEAKER_06:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Like that's what we should post for when we do live shows. Yo, I'm good with that.
SPEAKER_04:I'm good with that.
SPEAKER_02:I'm telling you right now, 2026, I'm gonna make so much effort to like get back into a creative state. I think life has been crazy. Yep. Uh 20 2025 has taken me by a storm, yeah. That I didn't even know how to process, and I've just been fucking going day by day, but I think I'm getting a handle on it. So next year, the next couple of years, I think is gonna be I'm hoping for the best. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Listen, bud, we're all on this journey with you. And that's we're all we're we're all in it together, and uh, you know, if if ever you need anything, just let us know, man. We'll we'll we'll we'll be there. So but join us join us in two weeks where we continue our discussion with Stranger Things. Uh that one we will try to do spoiler-free. Um, we will do our best because it'll literally be the weekend that it's released. Um, we will do our best, no spoilers, but we will we will discuss our thoughts and feelings on it um and get ready for uh season five, actually. We'll have to we'll have to start that. We have to get preparations for that. So until then.
SPEAKER_02:I wanna I wanna put together some graphics. That's fair.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, because uh what I really want to do start focusing on uh YouTube and yeah, like maybe not full, maybe not do full the full videos, like the full like two hours or however long it is. You know, try to work on shorts.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you know what we could do? We could do kind of like what Pat McAfee does. Um and I think so they have their live show and then they they chop up all their segments and release them on YouTube because like say a segment's like seven minutes long, boom, seven-minute YouTube video. Yep, and then the next segment, boom, eleven-minute YouTube video, whatever, you know what I mean? It chops it up so someone doesn't have to sit there and watch all two hours. They can watch and pieces, right? Whatever they want to watch.
SPEAKER_04:And that that's kind of where I'm lit. That's kind of where I want to go with it. I mean it's a good idea. Yeah, I don't think a lot of people will want to watch two hour episodes of us just chit-chatting and being dumb. I mean, some people might. I'm not, you know, I'm not who am I to yuck somebody's yum? I don't think I don't for sure, you know what I mean? So, but it'll be uh yeah, we'll kind of we'll kind of do a little closing um next episode of like like a like a year-end wrap-up, you know what I'm saying? Um on top of the Stranger Things discussion. But other than that, um we'll we'll wrap this up, put a pretty little bow on it, and since it's just us two, Grizz, say ta-ta to your fans. Toodaloo. And yeah, just uh join us next time, man. Because it's been a long road. It has been, and it's been fun. Yeah. It's been a lot of fun. So uh I gotta go do stuff, so bye! Hell yeah.
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