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FMJ Investigates: Nancy Guthrie

Templeton, SweetBabyJay, ArrogantYeti, Grizz Season 5 Episode 4

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Intro

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Is this thing on? Welcome welcome everyone. Everyone everyone Come coming to you coming to you. OLR OLR OLR Studios. This is FMJ pods FMJ FMJ Pod Podcast. The FMJ the FMJ podcast.

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For some people. Anyway.

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For some people. Some people.

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Yeah. Anyway, anyway. Are we all we all good? We all ready? Do we wanna do we want to get the show on the road? Do you ever know what the topic is? Do we want to get the show on the road right now?

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Is it is it is it butts? I don't remember.

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Yes, it's you we're talking about your butthole specifically, so get ready.

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Awesome. I have very like intimate knowledge.

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Your little your little chocolate cheerio.

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Hell yeah. You guys are in for a treat!

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O'Reilly.

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Okay, well if we're ready, if we're ready.

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Ready as a yeti.

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Welcome back to another beautiful episode of the FMJ podcast where we make all of your wildest fantasies come true. I'm just kidding, we don't do that. Unless you take the shocker and surprise Templeton in his chocolate cheerio.

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Whoa. I like it. We're good. Let's go.

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See, he's okay with it. So okay with it. He said yes, please. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. What's the safe word, Templeton? Deeper.

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I was gonna say Massachusetts, but anywhere.

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Massachusetts? That's cool. That's cool. Pick something really difficult to say. Massachusetts. Oh Lord. That would be wild. That would be wild. He's like, ah, Matt Massachusetts.

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I don't just tap three times. This is a fucking MMA match.

Checking Pulses

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Oh, why did we pick this safe word? No, you picked the safe word. That's that that's the difference. So anyway, welcome back. We are here yet again. Uh Miss Meeseeks will not be joining us. She has a birthday party to attend to with uh the little one. So she will be back later on today, but she'll be back uh next episode. Um so yeah, there you go. Um let's quickly go around the room and get some uh get some pulses checked. We gotta check everybody's pulse, right? So let's go with Yeti. How about you start us off today? Wow, why does he look like that?

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8675309.

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I okay okay, you know what? I will start it off, start us off strong. Strong like a hundred-proof bourbon, like a day old Big Mac. If you know you know anyway. So my my pulse, it's like, I don't know. I'm chilling, so it's like, I don't know, like 77.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, hell yeah, bro. 77. Why didn't you do six?

SPEAKER_02

I'm chilling. Because I didn't want to do the six seven all right, that's fair, that's fair. No, um, I'm good. I'm tired today. Uh, yesterday the wife and I took the little one um up to down to Louisville to visit her Louisville aunties and our Louisville family, and it was it was we missed it. It was a it's been a long time since we've seen them. Um, we've tried to link up a few times and it just didn't work out. We were sick, or they couldn't make it, or whatever the case may be, just life happens, and then we just finally said, Okay, we're doing it, we're going. Um, everything, the cards were dealt, and everything worked out, and we've seen everyone, we missed everyone. Um, and I just want to say, my daughter is is is truly, truly amazing. We started the day at 6 a.m. Um, we had some stuff to do around the house. Um, we were able to leave the house about 11. We get her in the car, we drive down there, we're down there by one. I mean, and as soon as we get there, it's it's pedal to the metal. We're going here, we're going there, we're seeing this person. She's getting passed around, like, and there's just no stopping. And and finally we get it's about six, and and we're hanging out with like the last person, and and and one of the guys, when uh Rico, um, one of the people's significant other chairs. She is amazing, she hasn't made a peep of discomfort whatsoever, and all we've been doing is moving in and out of the car, you know, and it's just so bravo to my daughter. She's the patience, and she's just going with the flow. Now, I will say once she got in the car though, and we were able and we drove back home, she crashed and she slept, and it was just it was just remarkable, and it was an amazing time.

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So that's all good. She's patient, she's quiet, she's you I think she might be used to it all, right?

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Like, yeah, I I think so too. Like, she just knows that yeah, this household's just going to be crazy, and that's going to be my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Which is which is fantastic, because get used to it early. Because man, we are a we're a handful sometimes. Yeah, we're a handful sometimes. I think Grizz and Templeton can attest to that. Sometimes it gets a little gets a little wild. So but that's good. That's good.

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That's it's yeah, yes.

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You guys had a you guys had a fun trip. Uh that was your first I think I think that was your first big trip with within the biggest.

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Yeah, that was the first big trip, yes, yes. And it was the farthest we've gone, like I said, big trip, farthest we've gone in a car with her. And she, like I said, she she did amazing. Like, I can't like that's a decent like first step though. Right, right, right. So I'm gonna go.

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Yeah, because that's like what, hour and hour and a half?

SPEAKER_04

Depending on where you're going. Yeah, about, yeah, depending on where you're going a little bit. About. But yeah, it's a that's good. That's good. She did well. Uh glad you guys had a good time. Glad uh, glad the Louisville aunties and and and all of them got to got to see baby Yeti and and you guys enjoyed it. So uh yeah, keep us posted. Moving right along. Moving right along. Templeton! What your pulse look like?

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I'm checking. Checking, checking, checking, eighty-four.

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Eighty-four, okay. So is that is yours typically kinda kinda high? Like are you always a little stressed? Like a gerbility. Always, always That's we have no idea.

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That's fair.

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So do you have anything fun and exciting happening in your life other than you know you guys?

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And yeah, no.

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No. Nice. No, not at all. So just us? Just us? Or just us the just us league. I mean, pretty much. Okay, alright. So no new games, nothing, nothing exciting going on.

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I mean, I'm playing a game, but it's not a new game. Okay. Gotcha.

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Gotcha.

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Okay. Stellar Blade is not a new game, but like, is this your first is this your first playthrough? Is what I'm gonna do. Yes. Okay. Very much. And how are you enjoying it so far? I love it and hate it. Okay, what do you love about it? Big booty bitches. Moving on. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But what do you love about it?

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The gameplay is like a lot of fun.

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Yes.

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But the difficulty, like, aggravates the hell out of it.

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Okay. What what difficulty are you playing on?

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I don't know. The base difficulty.

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So probably normal, which is fair.

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Which is fair.

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Um being an avid Stellar Blade player, I've got almost 300 hours in that game. By the way, Templeton, just so just so we're clear. Uh I I understand your frustration because even on normal, like the parry system, it's such a small window, like it's almost like you have to parry early, but not too early. Otherwise you're screwed. And it's just Yeah, it it you can't get like right as they're hitting you. Like some games are like that. And I believe like there's a uh an upgrade to you know widen that window a little bit, but you gotta you gotta get there. Which I know you will. I know you will. But overall it is a fun game, and I'm super stoked that you're in that you're getting into it and uh you know finding finding the game that I love to play as well. Because the gameplay is a lot of fun. If it if nobody knows what Stellar Blade is, a lot of people made a big deal about it, calling it a Gooner game, because the the pro tag is she's an android, and I mean they used a very amazing model for her. There's there's a lot of butt. Yeah, there's a lot, there is a lot of butt and suggestive poses as she takes, especially just going down ladders. Like, there's no reason why she has to stand like that, right? But I'm okay with it.

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Yeah, I was gonna say Stellar Blade, that's the one where like the girls' boobs are just all over the place.

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Yes, you you would see me play it, Yeti, and you're like, why is she naked? I'm like, she's not naked, she is wearing an outfit. She's very close to it, though. Like the outfit just literally covers.

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Yeah, it covered it covered just enough. It was like the end of the world, and the stripper got a sword.

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Yeah, well, okay, so that's one of the outfits. It's got over like 200 outfits in this game. Like legitimately. One of the outfits. I mean, it's lingerie. It's literally lingerie. So it's like, yeah, it it's borderline aguner game, but the gameplay is fun, the story is actually pretty solid, and they're working on a sequel, Templeton, so be prepared. I'm I'm glad you're getting into it. So you can finish it up. And now, mind you, there are like three, maybe, yeah, three different endings. One when you don't really Oh wow. Yeah, one where you don't really get any of the uh do any of the side missions, and you just run straight through the game, and I'm not a fan of that ending. I I did not know.

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Well, I'm I'm I'm very much a side quest player.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um when you when you get when you do everything and then make the um right choice at the end of it, it is it is like the ending, the right ending, the proper ending, Chef's kiss. It is it is a fantastic ending. And I was like, oh, oh yeah, I needed this in my life. So yeah. Yeah, I'm looking forward to you even finishing the game. But is that is that all you got going on? Just stellar blade? Yep, pretty much.

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That's cool, that's cool.

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So moving right along, Grizz.

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Yeah, dude, that sounds stellar.

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Yeah, it is stellar.

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Oh hang on, jokes right themselves for the joke. Thank you.

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Low-hanging fruit. Yeah, I gotta eat, you know, it's breakfast. It's it's fruit.

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All the fruit has to be eaten. Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir. Um, I'm I'm doing good. Uh it's Comic-Con weekend, and I'm having a little bit of FOMO.

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Okay.

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Here in here in the um the Pacific Northwest, Seattle. Emerald City Comic-Con. Shout out to Emerald City Comic-Con for some stupid reason. Um today's the last day of it, but um uh it's cool seeing all the nerds out and about. Uh I got my you guys can't see it. Fuck it. I'm rocking the uh yeah, you really can't see it. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of dark. I got I got my I got my Kotsky sweater on. So, you know, we this world shall know pain. That's right. That's right. Which I tell you what, bro, the world is knowing some pain right now. Jesus H Christ. Yeah, holy shit. It's um it's wild outside. My pulse my pulse right now is 112. 200 proof listen for anyone who is out there and they're like, what the fuck are we gonna do? Just live your life. Like that's it, dude. That's it. The fireball's gonna burn out eventually. Love your neighbors, do what you can, yep, vote, yep, and dude, pursue that dream. Do that thing you thought you couldn't do because of X, Y, and Z. Fuck X, Y, and Z, dude. There's literally fire raining down from the sky. X, Y, Z. Do what you want.

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X, Y, and Z don't give a fuck about you, so don't give a fuck about them.

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Yeah, right? Facts, bro. Right. Facts. Like, I don't know. Um, other than that, other than the world falling apart, I've been running still. Um I did a 5k last Sunday. Hell yeah. Uh it was called the Hot Chocolate Run. Apparently, it's like a country ride wide thing. Like they they go from state to state.

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Yep.

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Uh didn't know that. Um there was three races. There was a 5k, 10k, and a 15k.

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Okay.

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And I don't know how many racers um were in the 10 and 15k, but there was 5,420. Nice. Um racers in the 5k. And I finished 896th out of all those racers. Okay. I'm pretty proud of.

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Yeah.

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And out of my age group, 35 to 39, I finished 58th out of 174. Let's go. So that's pretty sick. Um, it's pretty solid. And it was uh 31 31 and a half minutes at a 10.09 pace. Okay. Uh so I think that was my average. Um, we get in there. We slowly get in there. I think I'm gonna come back to Cincinnati in May for a little 10k.

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Okay.

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Uh we'll see. I booked the hotel. I haven't paid for it. I have not bought flights yet, and I have not paid for my registration because I'm not a hundred percent sure I'm actually gonna be able to come.

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That's fair.

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But uh the hotel I can book for free since I work in the industry.

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Yep.

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Um, I mean, not because I work in the industry. Anyone can book a hotel without paying. Let me let me clear that up. Um, I just choose to uh hotel tycoon. Yeah, you know. I roll up and they're like, oh Grizz is here. Oh Grizz is here.

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Oh man. Get his get his presidential suite up top.

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Yeah. Um, but I'm gonna I'm gonna look closer into the books at the end of the month and if I can I'm gonna revisit like plane tickets. I wanted to do a whole week, and I don't think that's a financially smart idea. Um, because hotels are really expensive during the race. Yeah. So even with my discount, like my my hotel was like super expensive for the whole week. So yeah, I might just do um hotel for the weekend, come in Friday, check out Sunday, excuse me, and then maybe couch surf for a couple days and then fly out on Tuesday. Not a bad idea.

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Yeah. Not a bad idea.

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I'm sure you're thinking I think that's what I might do.

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Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure you know enough people around round here to Yeah, yeah.

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I was thinking maybe I might crash with my pops. He he got a new apartment last year, I think. So might might crash out there. That'd be dope. Yeah, yeah. That'd be like uh I haven't I feel like I haven't really seen him the last few times I've visited either. Like stars haven't aligned, but um life be like that sometimes. But yeah, other than that, I just be trying to get my mind and body straight. Yeah, yeah. Cause you don't know what's gonna happen.

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So Yeah, we gotta we gotta stay ready, bro. Gotta stay ready so we don't have to get ready. That's right, that's right. That is awesome.

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The first the first line is self-defense is being able to run away.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. So I'm I'm I'm glad you're you're still kicking ass and and running and training and and all of that. Um eventually I will get back into running. I don't know if I I'll do five miles. Maybe, maybe I'll get back up to five miles. We'll see how we'll see how it goes. See how see how I do.

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I don't know how far I want to take it. I do know this. I do know I am training for a marathon for next year, 2027. Yep. I do know that there's a very high possibility that I might sign up for a half marathon uh towards the end of this year. Because like I've been doing 5K's this first quarter. I'm gonna attempt to 10K, it's only six miles.

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Yeah.

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And then a half marathon is like 13 miles.

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Yep.

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So I mean, that's I'm just doubling my um distance, is the word I was trying to find.

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That's okay.

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Um and I feel like it's totally possible. Uh, if I stay on the track that I'm on, I should be able to hit a half marathon by the end of this year, and then um do at least one marathon next year, maybe do a couple marathons. I don't foresee myself being one of those crazy white people that runs all the time. But uh can I say that?

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Guys, I'm gonna guys, I'm going running again. You just got back.

SPEAKER_02

I mean you can you I technically you can. I mean, you just did, so yeah, right, right. There is that.

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You can go ahead and say it. Say what you want to say. You know what? I'll say I will say it with you.

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Okay, bro. Um, yeah, I don't I don't know how far I want to take it. I do know I have a couple goals. I want to do at least one marathon. Yep. And um I do want to train for an Iron Man and do at least one Iron Man. Yeah, when I was diagnosed with my autoimmune disease um back in 2013, the doctors said that I probably won't be type of shit. Like not 100%, but they were like, no, for real. Like they were like, you might not be as active as you used to be. Like, because like messes up your joints and your muscles and shit. Yeah, and I do kind of yeah, like I I want to be like, you know what? Fuck you. Let me show you what I can do. Yeah, uh exactly. Big doubt. So I I I've I set that goal back in 2013. I got away from it because you gotta fucking survive.

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Yeah.

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Um, and now I feel like I'm getting back around to that part of my journey where it's like, okay, we've I think I've recovered enough where I'm able to try. Okay. Um, so that's what I'm gonna work towards. We'll go see what happens.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, good, good, good. Uh obviously we are we're with you on this journey, my dude. We get to we get to watch it, we get to watch you do it, we'll be cheering. I mean he won't run.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, hey, I gotta have somebody at the finish line holding up the sign.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He could be, he could be, hey Grizz, you ready for some you ready for some carbs? And he's like, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Give me everything.

SPEAKER_01

I'm afraid you misunderstood me, server. I would like all of the carbs.

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Everything that has carbs in it, put it on this table. So, but no, that's awesome. Uh, good job. Keep it up, and uh maybe we can all one day be as fast as Grizz. Maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Uh we'll see. Grizzly bears are pretty quick. I love that. They are.

SPEAKER_04

They're fucking fast. They are fast, bro. They fast.

SPEAKER_01

They'll play, bro.

Entertainment News

SPEAKER_04

Right. So I've got some stuff to cover on entertainment news. Not as much as last time, because uh last time it was the Sony had their stay to play, and there was just a lot to cover. But this one here, I there's a few things I want to touch on. Uh, number one, Paramount officially acquired Warner Brothers for$110 billion. And they're that's right, and they reportedly paid Netflix$2.8 billion to terminate its existing deal with Warner Brothers. So Netflix actually did walk away from that deal after uh basically with a bag, yeah. Yeah, nobody nobody lost in that situation. So we'll see what happens. Um obviously Paramount Warner Brothers, they've they've been around for a while. We'll s we'll we'll just we'll just see what happens. I I think I think Netflix did have the opportunity, you know, buying up Warner Brothers to be able to expand uh theater releases and stuff like that. So

SPEAKER_01

I think that's a missed so much money.

SPEAKER_04

I know, but I think I think that's kind of a missed opportunity for Netflix because I mean so some of their movies are theater worthy. You know what I mean? So Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. I don't know. I don't know. We'll sit we'll see how that goes. Secondly, uh Sony. Sony. Uh they have stated that they're going to begin keeping their major IPs as exclusives and will not be porting them to PC.

SPEAKER_01

Now I heard that now I do have to buy a PS5.

SPEAKER_04

So I I know I've mentioned a few times on here, especially now that Sony has confirmed that uh the PS6 is in development. They if they're if they're making a new console, they have to justify making the new console. And putting all of your uh games out to the world, nobody's gonna want to buy a PS5 or a PS6 at that point. That's really or really anything. Now, with that being said, again, it's their major IPs that they're worried about. So online games like Call of Duty, all that kind of stuff, or or anything that they make that is like online, you know, you gotta be online at all times, that will be ported to PC and available for everybody. But like you're you know continuing to make I think they're starting with Wolverine. I think Wolverine is going to be their first Sony exclusive. So yeah, like the Wolverine?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, the like Maple Syrup, the Marvel Wolverine, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

The Marvel Wolverine coming out in September of this year is gonna be their first exclusive. And yeah, and and some people are there are some PC players because I don't remember which game it was um that they that they mentioned, but they are kind of they're they're a little heartbroken because Sony decided to do that. But again, I'm like if you're gonna make another console, you have to justify the console, and you need the games to justify the console. Now, Xbox is doing their thing and they're making the console PC hybrid, which I don't know how that's gonna look because isn't a console basically a P like a very watered down, condensed version of a PC already.

SPEAKER_01

I I would argue a console is a the opposite, it's not a watered-down PC. I think it's an extremely optimized and and simple to use PC. It has a very focus, very like a very narrow focus version of a PC. Right.

SPEAKER_04

Like it does it does what you want it to do, right? Like you're there to play games, you just plug and play instead of worrying about upgrades and you can get online with a with a Xbox or a PlayStation.

SPEAKER_01

Like you can surf the web on Sony. Yes, you can on the PlayStation.

SPEAKER_04

It's a it's a little tricky.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's yeah, it's a little tricky to get to get. Because it's optimized for gaming, right? Right. So if if you had I bet you I would I'd be willing uh without actually knowing, I would be willing to bet if somebody had the skills they could convert one of those consoles by like tapping in oh yeah and like giving it a new user face. Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Because I've seen people do that with the old PSPs, like the first gym PSPs, they hack them and turn them into um little like windows. Yep. Yeah, you know, like they put like Windows 90, no XP, I think.

SPEAKER_02

Yes. I mean, if you think about it, if you think about it, they they how do I say this? They had the ability to do pretty much anything they want because it's all electronics, it's all computer-based software. So as long as you know how to get into that, I mean, you could essentially start with the other.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's it's a I mean, think about it like the you remember the old um no, it wasn't even the old ones, it's the new, the new little scanners you guys use at um at the purple and orange. Yes, and they they just run on a shell. It's an Android phone, but it's it has a shell software in the case. So like sometimes that crashes, and then you see like the Android underneath.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01

I'd be willing to bet that's all consoles are. They just run an optimized gaming shell.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yep. I could see that. Probably so it'll be interesting to see what the new console PC hybrid will look like. They named it Project uh Helix, I believe it is.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, my neighbor is working on it.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, very nice, very nice. Yeah, if he works at Microsoft. Now, here's here's gonna be my suggestion. This is just what I'm this is just what I'm thinking. If Xbox is going to really kind of bow out of console making, yes, it's going to be a console, but more of a PC hybrid, right? So they're gonna lean more into PCs. I would say, if I'm Xbox, lean into PC, right? Like make something make something better? Yes, yes, but but you really, really make the PC specifically just gaming, right? Like make sure you are up to date on everything that somebody that has a PC would add to to their PC as they're building it, you know what I'm saying? And make it affordable, kind of like what Steam is doing with their with their Steam queue. Listen, I get it, I hear you, I hear you, but if they if that's the game plan, then lean into it. Because at this point, Steam, with Steam making their console, they're more they're more than likely gonna be your competition if you're no longer gonna worry about consoles. So you now have to keep up with Steam, where Steam, the specs of the Steam Cube or whatever the fuck it's called.

SPEAKER_01

I forgot that thing existed for a split second. You were talking about it just now, and I was like, what the fuck is he talking about? What does Steambook game?

SPEAKER_04

No, it basically is game.

SPEAKER_07

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04

Steam is creating their console. So I I just I have a feeling that's gonna be their competition and not Sony anymore. Because for Sony, do what you've been doing, right? Do do what you've been doing. What what has made you succeed? Make the best console possible. Xbox, if you're gonna lean PC, fucking own it, dude. Own that shit and compete with Steam, compete with PCs, make it affordable, and I promise you you won't have a fucking issue. But we'll see. We'll have to wait and see uh what that looks like. The last thing I want to touch on, fellas, this does include us. Um Discord is introducing their mandatory global age verification in 2026. It was supposed to be this month. Like I thought we were gonna have to uh cross that bridge right now. Um, but apparently, due to user backlash, the initial march rollout was delayed to the second half of 2026. So we have some now what does I was uh I'm so glad you asked, Chris. So essentially, um adults whose age cannot be automatically determined will be required to scan their face or ID. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Now, the purpose of this wait, I have a question. Yes. What does it mean? This might be my my ignorance. What does it mean when adults age can't be automatically determined?

SPEAKER_02

So depending on children are using software like right now.

SPEAKER_04

It's AI software, and it's gonna depend it's going to determine the type of content that you that you look at or whatever it is that you're doing on on on Discord. Basically. Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_01

Am I underutilizing Discord?

SPEAKER_04

I think so. So so so anyway, so anyway, hold hold on, hold the phone. What do you mean? So the purpose is to comply with new safety regulations in the UK, Australia, and other regions and to protect minors. Uh the new account, the new default will be teen by default. Accounts deemed under 18 or not yet verified as adults will have stricter content filters, restricted DMs, and limited server access. Verification methods. While automatic age inf inference based on account, age activity uh will will cover most. So if you've had the account for a long time, they'll deem you as you're probably not a minor because the the account's been active longer. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I understand.

SPEAKER_04

And then and then the activity that that you do on that account. So if you're looking up like a bunch of kids stuff or like kids' shows, or the the AI will will determine that as you are you are not of age to get to the not safe for work stuff. Uh it will cover most. Um other others may need to use third-party tools to scan government IDs or use a um on device facial age estimation. So there you have it. Um we may not have to run into that issue. We may not run into that issue, but just in case you do, what do you think you will do? Are you good with the face the the age verification process with scanning your face or sending in your ID?

SPEAKER_01

Here's the thing. Oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead because I'm looking at something.

SPEAKER_02

I have a feeling at some point anything you do on the internet's gonna require some kind of ID or something like that. Because that's the only way to truly verify who you are. That is true. Well to a degree, because you could still steal someone's ID and be like, yeah, this is I think.

SPEAKER_04

You're right, you're right.

SPEAKER_02

But I don't know. I just I mean, I just have a feeling it's a slippery slope. You start doing it there, you're gonna do it otherwise, other places.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. You said underwear. Underwear.

SPEAKER_02

No, I know, I know you didn't, but it made me think of that.

SPEAKER_01

No, um my my thoughts are I I'm for it because I think well, okay. I am I am for verification. I think that it's important to verify who we are. Yep. Uh it becomes a s I agree with Yeti, it becomes a slippery slope. Um, and where I believe it becomes a slippery slope is the data industry is booming right now. It's it's about to pop off. Like everyone's building data centers. The White House is putting one underneath the fucking underneath the bowling. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I don't even know if that's actually public information or it or they like I I can't remember. I haven't looked into it recently, but I feel like they would try to lie to us and be like, yeah, that's not what we're doing. Bitch, yes, you are. Like, we know exactly what you're doing. Yeah, you fucking bought TikTok. We know what you're doing. Yeah, but like, so like that I have problems with that part of it where like I don't know what these companies are gonna do once they get my information. And on one hand, they already have everything they need on me because I have a fucking smartphone and a computer. And like if you have a digital presence, a digital fingerprint, they have everything you they want. Yep, right? Yep. Um, so like there's that part. The only way to not do it is to never have done it ever. So like the the people who are kids now that don't have internet access, well, not access, but people like like like people that don't want their kids to be on the internet, if they can keep them off the internet, those people will be fine, they you know, for the most part. Um, but there's still like surveillance everywhere you go. You can't you can't go anywhere in this country without there being a camera on you. That's true. Um with like things like ring having that AI software that they're trying to put out, which I I don't know if we're gonna be able to block that. I don't think we will. I think it's just gonna be something we have to deal with, yeah, along with all the other shit we have to deal with.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um like that stuff I'm not a fan of, but like I have I have multiple thoughts on this because it's like on one hand who cares, like if you're a law-abiding citizen, then these things shouldn't matter, right? But but but like things are so crazy right now and they're trending crazy err how do we know where the the the limits are gonna be? We know like I used I used to trust that our government would do the right thing, but I no longer believe in that, um, unfortunately. And something like this, where Discord is gonna force people to prove how old they are, I I think is a net positive because there are some messed up motherfuckers out there that are interacting with people that they shouldn't be interacting with. Facts. Actually, let me reword that. There are some sick motherfuckers out there that are interacting with children.

SPEAKER_04

That sounds better.

SPEAKER_01

And and that sounds better. I you know what I mean, and like that's that's that's not cool. And I think that like good on Discord for trying something. Right. I just hope that Discord stays faithful and doesn't sell the information.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's definitely it's definitely it's definitely an honor system at that point.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right. Because my other thought is I do believe that with things like Twitch streaming, um, YouTube even, TikTok, like like kids are watching these things, right? And kids get inspired. Yep. You know, we all remember what it was like to be a kid and and and being like, I want to grow up to be dot dot dot. Yeah. Well now, now people like like when I was a kid, I wanted to be an astronaut or I wanted to be a skateboarder or whatever. And like nowadays, like I think I I don't have children, so I don't know, but I would imagine kids are probably like, I want to grow up to be like a ninja, I want to grow up to be like, you know, insert streamer here, Mr. Beast, whatever. And like so, right, and and like in order to in order to do that, there's certain avenues you have to kind of walk down. And I think that YouTube kind of started it a while back where they have like YouTube for kids, and it's you know, you plug in information and it's supposed to not show the kids certain uh content. Yeah, so I I feel like if Discord could do something like that and whatever this verification thing is, but even even further, do like a Discord for kids. And if you're under 18, like 13 to 17 or whatever, there's this Discord for kids, and that way they can build their little communities or whatever, and once they get old enough, they can move the community over to like the adult version or whatever. I don't know. Um I don't know. Long story short, I think it I think I'm for it, but I just hope it's done responsibly.

SPEAKER_04

Right. Right. I think I think uh ultimately a lot of any kind of decision like that ultimately comes down to will they do it responsibly, like instead of abusing it in some way, shape, or form. So we'll just have to wait and see what what exactly happens with Discord. Uh I know uh I I I know that that age verification process, the way that it has been has been trending towards. Uh it it's it's been happening like on a lot of websites. So it's it's definitely something that they soft have softly yeah, Pornhub. Looking at you, Pornhub, which is why it's no longer available in Kentucky. They literally put up a whole disclaimer saying, hey, Kentuckians, we aren't allowing you to access the site because blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh, don't ask me how I know. Anyway. Anyway.

SPEAKER_01

For research purposes only. That's right.

SPEAKER_04

For a friend. I was checking back. I was checking for a friend. Got your back. Yeah, for science. For science. Um. So you you are right, Gris. It'll be as long as it's handled responsibly. I mean, like you said, good on them for trying something, because I'm sure I've mentioned it once or twice, but my nephew is constantly asking for Roblox on my PS5, and I'm like, nope, not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01

I did look something up real quick. Yeah, yeah. Um, I was looking up earlier, but I wanted to I I wanted to mention this. Discord is still privately owned, so I think that's good news because like they have stakeholders and stuff, but uh, I I don't think that like their stocks are open to the public. So with that being said, I'd be like, I feel like um they are less likely to be influenced by uh outside sources. Like it and and so that makes me feel more confident in this decision that it's being made with the attention to what's go like what's going on. Yeah, I got it. There's a lot of fucked up shit going on in the world right now.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, for sure, for sure. Cause I mean, we don't we we can bring up the list all day long and and what it is longer than a CVS receipt. That's right. So yeah, uh Yeti left just in time. I don't think Yeah, he was like, I'm out though.

SPEAKER_01

I think CVS receipt he got triggered.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he said, damn it. Yeah, he he got up and straight said, No, I can't do CVS receipts, not it, not in this house. Did you did you lose your CVS receipt, Yeti? Yeah, I did, bro. I dropped something and fucking lost it. Yeah, so funny. Listen, if you dropped your CVS receipt, it would have taken a year to actually hit the ground. So it just keeps falling. Yeah, yeah. Like, oh my god, when's it gonna end? That's funny, bro. I'm kidding, CVS. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. For the joke. So anyway. For the joke. There you have it. Entertainment news. Do with all that information what you will. Are you happy that Sony is is keeping a lot of their their major IPs as exclusives? Listen, I'm not upset about it. You know what I mean? Cause because I got the PS5, but PC players are like, oh, why would they do that? I'm like, you know what? Why don't you just be a real gamer and get a PS5? You know what I mean? Get a PlayStation. I don't know, I don't know what to tell you. I don't I I really don't. I don't know what to tell you.

SPEAKER_01

Uh I feel like real gamers already have multiple gaming platforms. Yes, that's that's so if if someone's like exclusively PC, they're I not that they're not a real gamer, because then like people are gonna come at me and I really don't feel like dealing with my thought that I wanted to say is I feel like real gamers have all the all the platforms. Right, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

No, I I I agreed, agreed. Like, cause because you know, especially when you have multiple platforms with exclusives, you want to try the ones that interest you the most. Because there is one thing that I'm totally, totally interested in playing, and that's the blade, uh, the Marvel Blade game that they're coming out with, and that is going to be an Xbox exclusive.

SPEAKER_01

So wait, hold on. They throwing Wolverine on PlayStation, Blade on Wolverine. That's crazy. That's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_04

That's actually wild word. That's actually that's actually wild. I don't know, man. Like if you're gonna like pick a lane, you know, because you already got Spider-Man on PlayStation. You're about to go Wolverine. You might as well keep all the Marvel stuff on Sony.

SPEAKER_02

You know what that was easy now.

Dafuq?

SPEAKER_04

I don't even want to hear it, bro. You haven't you haven't touched Spider-Man in I don't know how long. That sounds yeah, that sounds wrong. Anyway, Yeti, I think it's think I think you have something for us, do you not?

SPEAKER_02

Um, yeah, so I went to Taco Bell the other day, right? And and I decided to get you know some tacos and whatnot, and then I took like a freaking handful. I mean, I don't know, a handful, yeah, a giant fucking massive amount of hot sauce.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And as I was eating, I was like, you know, how do these people stay in business when they just hand out their hot sauce like it's going out of business? Like I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeti. Bro. Yeti. You do know that that's like the cheapest piece of inventory that they can get, right?

SPEAKER_02

No, but you don't understand. Like, I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_04

No, like I do understand. It's like the cheapest piece of inventory they can get. So that's probably why they don't give a shit that people are out there grabbing it by the handfuls. They probably get that shit for like ten cents a packet. One man's over there like, yeah, look at this. Y'all are going broke today.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like because hear me out.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I'm listening, kinda.

SPEAKER_02

So if you think of McDonald's, for example, they got their dipping sauces. Yeah. Is the hot sauce not the same as dipping sauce?

SPEAKER_04

So the uh uh i again, it depends on how much they pay for it because if Taco Bell is only spending, like I said, ten cents, maybe even five cents a packet on this. Stuff and McDonald's is spending like fifty to sixty cents per packet. That's a big difference, which is why they charge you for that extra sauce.

SPEAKER_01

Taco Belly McDonald's charges for sauce.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yes, they do. And when you ask for extra, they look at you like you just asked them to empty out the rocks. Can I get extra sauce? Excuse me, sir. We don't do that here. That's gonna be a corner? Yeah, it's gonna be a whole corner. Do you want two? Because that's 50 cent. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00

Damn. Damn. So fucking stupid. What a one-two buzz.

Reddit Roulette

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, right. So anyway, yeah, that's that that's don't Yeti, don't you have a Reddit story for us? So we can stop being Megan the Stallion over here.

SPEAKER_00

Lord have mercy. Actually, I wouldn't mind if we just were Meg Nastallion. I mean, yeah, it would be nice.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, uh-oh, uh-oh, Yeti, we we can't hear you. I love the crash out.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, did you try and turning it off and turning it back on?

SPEAKER_04

He's doing that now, Gris. Please hold. Please hold. Please hold. He's he's coming in. Uh Yeti has entered the chat. Watch, watch his whole computer crash on him. And then he can't then he can't get back on.

SPEAKER_02

Um bad. I was talking and I didn't understand why you guys were not saying shit. Because you weren't saying shit. All right. Pick a number one through five.

SPEAKER_03

Uh four.

SPEAKER_02

One. One. Two. Two. Three.

SPEAKER_04

Three. Four. Nice. Huge. It's gonna be huge.

SPEAKER_02

Welcome back, Apollo Casino. Sign up for a 800K GC plus 60 SC. Asshole. Next story.

SPEAKER_04

Don't click, don't click on it. He clicked the link.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, was it an ad? Was it an ad? It was an ad.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it wasn't ad.

SPEAKER_01

That's so good.

SPEAKER_04

Here we go. Here we go. Don't click the link.

SPEAKER_01

Link in the bio. Link in the bio.

SPEAKER_02

Am I the asshole for flipping out on my father because of trash in our car? Uh is he the trash? I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_04

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_01

For the joke. Somebody call the waste management company because we got trash.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, here we go. Some important context. 29 mil. Okay. Should I did they really type all that out? Yes, multiple M's and I wonder what that looks like typed out. I just told you M's and just M L M L M L M L. So I tried, but like the first sentence has already a fuck up. Okay, so I'm gonna read it word for word. I'm gonna read it for word for word, and then you tell me where it where you lose sent.

SPEAKER_04

We'll decipher this.

SPEAKER_02

Some important context.

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I missed I. That's what it was.

SPEAKER_04

Operator Ari.

SPEAKER_02

Male, Phil, I should add R. Maybe the I wasn't the problem. Okay. Hold on. Okay. From the top. Some important context, I, 29 male, feel I should add are that my father, 60 male, have what I would call a tendency of hoarding.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so he would consider it hoarding what his what his father does at 60. Yes, yes, yes. So it may not be hoarding, but according to him, it's hoarding.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Alright, I'm glad we got the first sentence. Yes. For as long as I can remember, he oh fuck. This is gonna be great.

SPEAKER_04

This is going this is going swimmingly.

SPEAKER_02

I have to decipher this as I read this, so buckle up. Uh I'm buttons. Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_01

Do you need do would you like to take a minute to proofread it while Jay and I fill the airspace talking shit?

SPEAKER_04

About the trash? Because let me tell you, his spelling is trash already.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know if I can do this, boys.

SPEAKER_03

This one is fucking rough. Yeti's about to have an aneurysm. Uh I'm gonna push through.

SPEAKER_01

Can you copy and paste it and then put it through like co-pilot?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, can you do that? Or or like send it? Fuck ChatGPT.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. I'm gonna write, I'm pushing through.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

It's been trash that friends of his have wanted to be read of. It's been like that for years.

SPEAKER_04

Yeti hold, please. What? Start over. Start from the beginning. Because the whole time all we heard was Yeah, even your internet, your your your internet was acting like this guy's typing, bro.

SPEAKER_01

It was like for some context, 29 male can't type. Dad's a hoarder.

SPEAKER_04

That's all we got so far.

SPEAKER_02

Some important context. I 29 male. No, I should add that my father has a tendency of what I've called him before. I don't fucking know.

SPEAKER_07

Dude, we're not getting through this. I'm so fucking dead.

SPEAKER_01

You know what? I'm gonna go out on a limb. He's an asshole.

SPEAKER_04

That's what you get for not being able to spell. Asshole.

SPEAKER_02

He's using wrong words in wrong areas. Okay. And then you have to like figure out what word he's trying to use, and then it just it throws you off. No, I hear you.

SPEAKER_04

So yeah, I have to wipe my eyes because tears, literal tears were falling. Okay. Jesus. That's beautiful. Readjustice.

SPEAKER_01

Did I start at the very top?

SPEAKER_04

Yes, start from the top.

SPEAKER_02

Take 75. Let's go. I'm important context. I 29 mil. And my father, 60 male, have what I would call a tendency of hoarding. For as long as I can remember, he has been inclined into accepting trash and old belongings that friends of his have wanted to be rid of.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

It's been like that for years. The table we have in the movie room, it was dropped on us by a friend, and my father accepted it, even though we already had tables enough.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so they had enough tables already.

SPEAKER_02

To summarize. I voiced my firm opinion on the matter many times, including concerns that my father is being taken advantage of by his friends who can't be bothered to pay the fee to have their trash in a store.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, or or putting that shit they're not using in storage, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_02

Yep. Come come today and we have to come today and we have to attend an appointment, and I find the front passenger seat absolutely overflowing with trash. Old clothes, broken electronics, random trash. Turns out my father had visited a friend yesterday who, of course, asked if he could help her get rid of the trash. Combine my long my years of long frustration of my father's hoarding tendencies, the fact that I have told him many times I don't want our car to look like garbage yard, and me knowing we would be late because I had to clean out the front of my seat before we could go. Let us just say I flipped out. Told my father my god honest opinion and yelled at him my frustration and anger in the heat of the moment. I it felt cathartic. Yeah, that was a big word. Cathartic. Cathartic.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cathartic.

SPEAKER_02

But I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel a little guilty. In my father's defense, he always tells me he just wants to help his friends out, and that he he'll he'll sort the trash out soon enough. And I believe that, but soon enough have a tendency of turning into weeks, months, even years. And in the meantime, I have to drive a car that looks more like a garbage yard. Garbage yard deal with trash in my home that get in the way of our or block hallways. Oh, and I should mention that the trash in his context isn't trash bags or anything smelling, it's just old clothes, broken electronics, worn down furniture, etc. Things that I would consider to be trash. Thus, am I the asshole for flipping out on my father for jamming the car with trash again? No.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so that was that was a lot. That was a lot. It was a lot. So I would assume I would assume not here in the US. I'm just assuming, and I don't like to assume. But what it sounds like, I'm gonna try to summarize, is the dad has a bunch of friends that get a bunch of old stuff that like like they replace a sofa, and they're like, I have no place to put this. Hey, I know who takes who will take this for me, and then just hit pawn it off on him. And apparently, he has a hard time telling them, no. No, I'm not taking that. That's that's what it sounds like to me. But at the same time, why are we holding on to all of this if it's no good? In his mind, maybe garbage yard. That's like like Chris, that's gonna be my new saying. Garbage yard.

SPEAKER_01

I think I think that that deserves an illustration and to be put on merge. Yes, it does. So, listeners, if you want garbage yard, it's coming.

SPEAKER_04

Garbage yard. That is gonna be my new favorite thing to say. Garbage yard. That's a garbage yard over there.

SPEAKER_01

Dude, we have to add that to the soundboard.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, yes, we do. Like, like one good yard. Yeah, gotta get it.

SPEAKER_01

It has to be quick and like to the point.

SPEAKER_04

Garbage yard. I'm going to take that. I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna find that. I'm gonna find that in post. And I'm gonna add that to the soundboard.

SPEAKER_03

Garbage yard. Garbage yard. Garbage yard. Garbage art.

SPEAKER_04

So, is he an asshole for flipping out? Ida, I'm gonna say no. Because why are you packing the car with this stuff now? Like, you ran out of space in the house?

SPEAKER_01

I guess. I don't know. I mean, that was- I feel like the context we got, like, let's take it to the top. For context, there wasn't enough context.

SPEAKER_04

There wasn't enough context.

SPEAKER_01

Because how how long how long has Pops been a hoarder? Right. You know? Probably a long time, I'm assuming. Um maybe, maybe, maybe the 29-year-old has tried and the final straw is I'm just gonna throw shit away. Right. But we don't know that because the context was trash. The context was garbage drug.

SPEAKER_07

Garbage.

SPEAKER_01

But uh I don't know. I'm hesitant to say like I wanna say that the son is an asshole a little bit because I feel like hoarding is a um I don't want to say mental disorder, but I think I can. I think I can say mental disorder. Uh maybe just not a severe one. Um maybe it is. I don't know. There's there was a whole ass TV show on it, but I'm thinking, go ahead. How did your camera just move? My oh, me? Yeah, you probably because I kicked uh I kicked the cable. Oh, okay. Got it.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, I was I was about to say hey.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't realize it moved. I was like I was like stretching, I was stretching my leg out. Um Thanks running. I was stretching my leg out and I tapped the cable and it must have made it move. My bad dog.

SPEAKER_04

No, you're good, but carry on, continue.

SPEAKER_01

The the building is haunted.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, see, I was like, Ghost!

SPEAKER_01

Haunted by my foot.

SPEAKER_04

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01

Anyway, um finish your club. I kinda I kind of I kind of want to call the son an asshole a little bit for maybe not being as patient as as maybe they could with pops, right? Because like, but if this has been an ongoing ordeal and like this is like the 13th reason or the final straw, then like I kind of understand. My dude said a decade.

SPEAKER_04

He used that word. I did catch that, so it's been 10 years.

SPEAKER_01

There was a lot of deciphering.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also think I was laughing for a really long time after you were every time I heard garbage yard, I laughed harder.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay. I mean, like a decade is a minute, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's a hot minute. That is a long, that is a long time. Ten minutes, 10 minutes, 10 minutes specifically. No, but 10 years gathering, yeah, get just gathering a bunch of like and and and again, we don't have enough context because is it like a good mix, like half and half is his stuff and their stuff, or is it all their friends dumping their own?

SPEAKER_01

Right, like our car. So, like that's I don't know. There's a few things that still need to, I think, be answered. But I think I with the new information of a decade, I do feel like it's not new information, it's just new to me. Yeah, uh, I feel like um maybe not an asshole, but could be a little bit more patient because I do believe that um hoarding mentality is a like illness or disorder for the most part, and it is uh hard to retrain one's brain.

SPEAKER_03

For sure.

SPEAKER_01

Especially if like doing it for so long. Yeah, right. And like who knows like what the start of that is from? Like maybe maybe it it was it um came from a place of uh poverty, and when you don't have a lot to begin with, you start to get a little scavengy and try to like hodgepodge things together. Um I'm pretty guilty of that. Like I will sometimes collect things that I I'm like oh I could probably use that. I don't know what for yet. And I've been trying to break that because it's like I don't need to house that type of shit. Uh right. So like I've been I've been trying to do better about collecting things like for good example. I'll see a piece of furniture that I'm like, ooh, I can make something cool out of that. Right. And then it sits. And then now I have like a piece of furniture in my storage unit that I'm not doing anything with. Yeah, but which is oh which is okay, but it's it when you when you get to a point where you have like three or four tables and you haven't even taken one of them to do something, like that that's where the problem lies.

SPEAKER_04

And that's why I'm saying, is it mostly his friends' stuff, like these friends that he's saying is dumping the stuff on him, and they just don't want to pay for a storage unit?

SPEAKER_05

Because at that point, like they might have the point I was gonna make.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, they might be they might be saying, I'll come back for this, and then never come back for it. And it's like, if that's the case, learn to tell them no and say, get it get a storage unit, bro, because I'm not a storage unit.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, that was what the point I was gonna make. It's like sometimes like a relationship will break up or dissolve or whatever. And one person is like the property owner like that is their primary space of living. So they they stay there. Right. The other person leaves, but they leave all their shit. And then they treat that residence like a like free storage unit. Yep.

SPEAKER_02

I I yeah, I agree with what he's saying.

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah, and that's why that's why I'm curious if um the like we said, there is some context still missing. Is it all is it is it a good mix? Like is it a good 50-50 split of the dad shit and whoever the friends are of the dad that keeps saying, Oh, I don't need this anymore. Uh here, take this old TV, here, take this old whatever. Or are you know, are they literally saying, you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna utilize this. I just need you to hold it for me for for a little bit. Okay, but they never specify how long a little bit is, and a little bit turns into ten years. Yeah, that's wild. You know what I mean? Hey, come get your shit, hey, come get your shit, hey, come get your yeah, because at this point, especially if I'm the dad, you know, is he being too nice? Because if I'm the dad at that point, listen, once it starts hitting like three months and you haven't come back for it, you either come get it or I put it on the curb for free, and somebody else can come take this bitch. Yeah, yeah. There's there's no shot you're gonna sit here and just hand me a bunch of shit and say, Can you watch over this? No, bitch. You know, I'm not that's why I'm curious as to as to how now the son obviously is more c is closer to the to the situation than we are. Is it something that he's always done? Is like what you said, Grizz. Maybe he finds stuff. He's like, Oh, I could do something with that, but he never gets around to it. Maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we don't know. That's that's what I took out of it with the like the the stuff in the car that's like broken electronics, and it's like, oh, maybe he's gonna try and like yeah, I don't know, fuse shit together.

SPEAKER_02

But see, I hear broken electronics, and I automatically go to the trash, it's trash, and they just didn't want they they didn't they didn't want to fucking pay for most people it is trash.

SPEAKER_01

I agree, I agree.

SPEAKER_05

I but the thing is you can you can junk so many things that you wouldn't think would be junkable.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. True. Also, like this is this is crazy because like today's world everything is so disposable. Yep, like the TVs that are made are like 90% plastic, you know, and once something breaks, it's really hard to replace that plastic because the just the way that manufacturing is like they stop producing that plastic because they've already moved on to a different type of plastic.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_01

So in that regard, a lot of these products that are on the market are basically made as a one-time use, they're not made to be repaired, but you can take the electronics inside and give them a new life. Right now, that requires a skill set that not everybody has. Correct. Maybe Pops has that, right? Yeah, maybe Pops has that electronic skill and likes to tinker, but there needs to be a threshold, right? Like I was saying earlier, maybe maybe complete a project before getting more parts. Right. Right?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Uh we don't know, we don't know all the details, so I I can't really say for sure for sure. But what I would do in the case of the sun, because it is annoying trying to get into a car that has trash in the front seat. Like I personally, I personally have dealt with that in my life. Um that is that is not um I'd be someone if they fucking start throwing trash like that.

SPEAKER_02

Dude, if you throw a fucking granola wrapper in my fucking car, beat your ass.

SPEAKER_01

So it it wasn't my car, obviously, but yeah, I so like like what I would do. Okay, there's obvious trash, and then there's not obvious trash, yeah. So like there's things like wrappers, papers, as long as it doesn't look like it has important information on it, trash the trash, yeah, right? Like throw throw the trash away. But if you come across like a busted up electronic and you're like, this this looks like trash to me, but you know what your person does, maybe put it in a box. Put in a box, collect all the things that you think is trash, but you're you know for sure that they don't think is trash. Right. Put in a box and be like, What's this?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You know, like why why is it in the seat? Like the seats seats are for asses, not electronics. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Seats are for ass, not for trash. Right, right. Gabajad, gabajad.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, gabajad. That's what it was. Gabajad, gabage.

SPEAKER_04

That's why we gotta write it down and put it on a shirt so nobody forgets.

unknown

Yep.

SPEAKER_04

So, okay, so ultimately, what are we thinking? What's ever what's everybody's verdict on it? Do we do we say asshole or not the asshole?

SPEAKER_02

I say not. Yeah, I say not. I'm with I'm with Templeton.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I'm gonna say I wanna say, for the sake of the game, asshole adjacent. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

No, that's no, that's that's fair because he could be nicer.

SPEAKER_01

We'll say Gooch. Gooch.

SPEAKER_04

He's a taint.

SPEAKER_01

Because because like my whole thing is like like could be a little bit more patient. Yeah, right. Um, um, I understand like time is a big diminisher of patience. I I get that, and and I acknowledge that and I respect that. And I still think you should maintain patience. Yeah, it is it just gets harder.

Magic Mind

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it it does. And and trying to help somebody that possibly has uh like you said, Grizz, uh uh hoarding is probably somewhere on that spectrum of you know mental illness. So can you be nicer? Sure, but dealing it with 10 years ah like I get it, like eventually you gotta you gotta shit or get off the pot, right? Like you either gotta you either either either do something with this or get rid of it. Because it's it's been 10 years and now it's spilling over to the vehicle. You know what I mean? Like that's why I was like, have we run out of space in the house? Because now, because here's the thing if it's that bad, that's a fire hazard. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anything catches on fire, that thing goes up so fucking fast. And how the how the fuck you getting out of the house? So it's like we that nah. At that point, it is now a a security issue, it's a danger to both of us, especially if we're both living in the same under the same roof. Yeah, now it's a problem. So I can say not the asshole, but I can I I I can be in the same camp of you can be nicer about it, be stern, yeah, but you know what I mean? Don't be don't be a dickhole and be like, you're a fucking idiot, and blah blah blah. Like, no, just be like, all right, listen, we have to sift through this because it's becoming a problem. Like that that could there's a nicer way to do that, but I I would say not the asshole. With an asterisk. Ass to risk. That's exactly what that is. It's an ass to risk. So anyway. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, brother. Anyway, that's that that's that. So let us know how you feel about it. Is he an is he an asshole? Is he not an asshole? Who knows? Y'all can chit chat, let us know in the comments. Um I do have a question though. And I I it is very unfortunate, but have y'all ever just been like hanging out with friends and they're like, hey man, I really can't take this broken TV. I think you should take the broken TV. And you're like not really thinking clearly, and you're like, yeah, you know what? I'll take the broken TV for you because I could probably do something with it. Well, guess what? Your magic mind probably wore off, and you probably need a second shot. Unfortunately, I thought I had one more for this for this podcast, but I am out. So we are going to do this without it.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you should have just found an old container and just put some water in it.

SPEAKER_04

I I threw it away because I thought I had one more. I thought I had one more in the box, but I do not.

SPEAKER_01

And because Jay's not a hoarder.

FMJ Investigates: Nancy Guthrie

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, because I'm not a hoarder. Ding ding ding because I don't have a garbage yard over here. The trash goes in the trash. But regardless, I think Magic Mine could have solved this whole entire issue. Why? Because Magic Mine is full of a bunch of little nootropics that can clear your mind of brain fog, help you think clearly, and really give you that sustainable energy to get through, sift through all of that garbage, throw it out, get it out of here, take it to the garbage yard, or or back to your friend's house. You know, you want to be that, you want to be, you want to be an asshole? Drop it in their front yard and say, This belongs to you. And then dip out. And then take a sip of your magic wine, because it's gonna keep you calm, cool, and collected. I promise you. And you can say, hey man, that sounds like a you problem. And with that L Fianine, you can throw it in your coffee, part of your morning routine. You can wake up nice and early, and it'll keep that caffeine flow real steady for you so you don't crash in the middle of the day like you do with most of the other stuff that has a ton of sugar in it. So if you would like to try Magic Mindflow yourself, you can stop by www.magicmind.com and use our discount code FMJpod20 at checkout for 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one-time purchases. And we are only doing that because we love you, and we don't want you to have a garbage yard in your house. And if it starts to look that way, take it to the next person, right? Double it and give it to the next person. So anyway, I think we have a topic to get into, and what a topic we have today. Do we know what it it is? It's Templeton's butt, and I hope he's okay with it.

SPEAKER_01

Hey yo.

SPEAKER_04

Hey yo. But today I I think we're going to be talking about the strange case of Nancy Guthrie.

SPEAKER_02

What a strange case it is.

SPEAKER_04

What a strange fucking case this has turned out to be. If you don't know what the Nancy Guthrie case is about, uh, I believe is it is it the Today Show? Or Good Morning America, something like that. Good morning America. Um Yeah, yeah, yeah. With Savannah Guthrie. Uh she stars on that. Her yeah, her her mother, her mother was taken. She was eight, she's eighty-four years old. Her mama was taken. Just just just snatched in the middle of the night. And really, like Oh, it's it's today's show. Okay, the today show. So really, and like nobody knows, nobody knows where she is. So there's so much to to talk about, especially with Pima County, the Pima County Department, and and what they're going through, and what they're not doing, what they should be doing, what they may not know that they're doing, they just seem I don't know. Who wants to start us off with this?

SPEAKER_02

It's just a fucking hot mess over there. I mean there's so many things wrong going. I mean, my opinion, wrong with the investigation that even if they were to find out what happened, the evidence is gonna be so battered that I don't think they could convince it c convict anybody because of what they've been doing over there.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, a lot has been mishandled, and we're gonna get into that very shortly. But yes, Yeti is correct. There has been so much evidence mishandled, not collected. Uh I think they left I think they said they left the doormat there, which had like blood on it, and and they never cleared it, they never took it. So how many people were in and out of that house? How much stuff has been on it? It's like what are we doing? So I don't know. It's it's been interesting. Uh I I know you sent the uh the Finding Nancy Guthrie podcast to us. Did you listen to all of it? Ah, every single episode. And buddy, I take so many notes because I was like, what? What do you what do you mean? Like, what do you mean? So Grizz and Templeton, did y'all get caught up with the Nancy Guthrie case?

SPEAKER_01

Uh I've been reading about it. I did not listen to the podcast. Yeah, I gotcha. Um I just saw something that was updated 22 hours ago, but it's it's kind of a stupid article because they're they're saying that a woman's body was found in the canal, but it hasn't been connected to the case. And I'm like, why are you even saying it like that? Like, why write such an edgy article? Like, she's 84 years old. For the clicks, but like if that if that body, if that body doesn't resemble an 80-something year old body, yeah, shut the fuck up. Yeah, it's for the clicks, it's for the clicks, it's for the clicks, for the views. It's so stupid. It makes me so angry. I was like reading through it just now, and I'm like, these motherfuckers, dude.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, they're they're it's it's really it's disgusting, honestly, to be like she's been missing since February 1st.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, but we're no longer looking for an alive card. Yeah, it's a recovery.

SPEAKER_05

If you're looking for a person, you're looking for a body. Right. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01

Now unless they've kept her alive, which there was that theory that it might be family member, but yeah, which I doubt it.

SPEAKER_04

Which who knows at this point. It I think sky's the limit, and there there's just a ton of stuff that that that we have to go through. We have to sift through this shit. So I I want to start off first and foremost by the ver on the very first episode of that podcast that I listened to. I wrote down it opened like Ocean Gate, right? Because they were talking about medication that she needed, and they said they she can't go because she has some kind of heart condition. Obviously, nobody knows what heart condition is, hip hop, that kind of stuff. But she had medication to take for this for this heart condition that they claimed she couldn't go 24 hours without. So I don't know how bad this heart condition is. I feel like it's something that, you know, it's not like 24 hours immediately, it's like, well, you know, gotta go. Sorry, dance. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, like just as soon as the clock hits 24 hours, done. Because they said they claim that she was taken at somewhere between like 2.30, 3 o'clock in the morning, right? So depending on when she took her meds, did she do like a normal person have a normal routine, woke up at 6, 7 o'clock in the morning, 6-7, and popped up, took her took her p took her medication, and you know, just followed that routine the next day. If she was taken at almost 3 o'clock in the morning, can it can we say that she did not take her medication? Like, like, like they obviously found the medication still at the house. Okay, they they didn't take it with them. So is it something is it a case of like, is it possible that they took her, didn't realize she had this heart condition, and within like 12 hours she just checked out, and they're like, Oh, now we just have a dead body. What the fuck are we gonna do?

SPEAKER_02

I didn't even think about that. It's cool.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and depending on the heart condition, like the the stress and anxiety of getting kidnapped could have fucking accelerated knocked her out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like, cause we like you said, we don't know the details of her heart condition, do we?

SPEAKER_04

No, nobody nobody knows specifically what the issue is. Uh like I said, HIPAA and all that kind of stuff. They're probably not going to unless they do uh, you know, unless they find her do an autopsy and all that kind of stuff and and say what the cause of death is and it's called the death what yeah, that just so happens to be the heart condition, that's when they that's when they'll probably release that information. But then again, that might be a you know, I mean medical coroners, like they're they can do that, right? Like I'm just I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Probably, probably. They got science and shit on their side. Science what I am okay, the big mysteries that I'm looking into or like want to find out about is I want to know the why. Like, why are we kidnapping an 84-year-old? Yeah, you know and like what's the motive behind this? And some of the things that I've been thinking about is it like in the beginning it felt a little tied loosely to uh the Jeffree Files because um Savannah had given platform to some of the survivors, some of those those girls who have grown up into women. She's given them a platform, and then and then this happens to her mom. And that felt like could be retaliation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it like to me, it felt like a hey, don't don't do that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you know, because this is what will happen, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um, and like these these rich and powerful pedophiles, they're willing to do some crazy shit. For sure.

SPEAKER_03

They've already proven that. Yeah, right. For sure.

SPEAKER_01

They've already proven what they're willing to do by doing the thing that they're willing to do. And then now now they're showing us even more. Now I I understand this is a a theory. There is no evidence or proof behind what I'm saying, it's just what I'm feeling. But um, you know, that's kind of where I'm at that with with like the why.

SPEAKER_04

No, it's a that's a good that's a good theory.

SPEAKER_01

He's like, why, why, why else? Why yeah, why why an 84-year-old woman? 84-year-old woman.

SPEAKER_02

This is what my thought process was is because after I listen to the podcast and everything. There's no for signs of force entry, which makes me think that maybe she knew the person or whatever. Um, or the person was just really good. I mean, there's people out there that are very, very intelligent stuff, or people that you know plan stuff out to execute things flawlessly or as close to flawlessly. Um, but what if there was it was some supposed to be in the beginning, some type of robbery? Okay, or or or or or whatever the case may be, something down that line. And if she has a heart problem to begin with, and as Jay just said a few minutes ago, you know, stress of the heart, what if she then has a heart attack like on the spot? She dies. Well, now the person goes from, well, I don't want to take anything now because they'll be like, Oh, it was it was it was a robbery gone bad, whatever the case may be. I'm just gonna take this body now, and now it becomes it goes from robbery to X that let's just get rid of this body because I don't want it, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04

Like, don't want to get caught with murder charges as opposed to just you know petty theft charges, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01

So is anything missing in the house? Do they confirm it was taken?

SPEAKER_04

Just her, just her, right?

SPEAKER_01

So suppose as fuck, yeah, it is, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02

And again, and again, you can go it's I mean, it probably is more than likely it probably is a kidnapping, but what if there is an off chance that someone went in there to do something completely out something else, or maybe they broke into no whatever to rape her?

SPEAKER_00

Which maybe, but I mean, you gotta be I mean that's that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it is crazy. It is crazy, but it's not it's not the craziest thing.

SPEAKER_02

But uh but my m what I'm trying to say is what if the end result was she had a heart attack? That person then panicked once the dead body became an issue. Well, now I have to get rid of this.

SPEAKER_04

So let's let's dive a little deeper, okay, with everybody's questions.

SPEAKER_01

When was the camera disabled?

SPEAKER_04

It was disabled at about like two something. It was like two some in the morning, which is which I wanna I want that's where that's where I want to head with this. That's when they that's probably when they left, right? So the camera, so they caught the the camera caught the perps on the front step at like one perps. There were I think there were two. And and the camera caught them at like one one forty something in the morning. And this is where it gets a little interesting because if it was just a quick snatch and grab, I think they said it was like a total of like 45 or 46 minutes before the camera actually was removed. So why what took them 46 minutes to do? If it's just to get in, snatch somebody, get the fuck out. What took them 46 minutes to grab an old lady and get the fuck out of Dodge?

SPEAKER_02

Again, so like when you when you put that into somebody died that night, if you put that into that conversation that I just said, because if you go to kidnap someone, you're not there to spend 46 minutes 45 minutes. No, if if I'm going to kidnap someone, it is I've okay. Now again, I know movies are movies, but there's some truth behind some of the movies. Right. Statue grabs are are are kidnappings are supposed to be quick. Fuck, watch watch C T V videos of of people trying to kidnap kids.

SPEAKER_04

For the most part, for the most part, all criminals want a quick job, even if they're just stealing something, which is why whenever you see um, oh my gosh, what was what was the movie? What was the movie? What was the movie? It's it's it's it's not there, it's gonna escape me. That's okay. I'll think of it later. But they did a great job at ex uh showing like how like somebody who's just doing petty theft, they're just walking down the street and they're testing door, they're testing door handles. If something's unlocked, they're just gonna open it real quick, grab something, shut the door, and roll because that's what they want. That's why they say keep your valuables hidden, because they're not gonna spend an extended time, right, going through it because that is more that's high risk because that now now I s now I'm spending time here, I now run the risk of getting caught. And they don't want that, obviously. So 46 minutes that's that's a while, you know. So and there's a TV show. Yeah, and they're saying that they found they found blood at the scene, but it wasn't a lot of blood. They said it was like blood that would indicate like a nosebleed or something like that. Right. Just just a little just a little bit of blood. So nobody knows exactly what happened, obviously. Um, it was it's interesting because then they offered the ransom note demanding Bitcoin. Why specifically Bitcoin?

SPEAKER_01

Was that confirmed? I thought I read something where somebody like had a ransom note, but it was like a fake ransom.

SPEAKER_02

No, so there's two things going on with that. What's up? There was the Bitcoin one, and then there was fake people trying to do it. Well, they were there was two.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it was it was it was happen, it was all happening at the same time. But the the the the the Bitcoin ransom for six million dollars in Bitcoin, like that's crazy. Yeah, why why specifically Bitcoin? Why are we not why went why why are we not doing cash like we uh I call me old-fashioned? Why are we not why are we not asking for cash?

SPEAKER_02

Because I think if I'm not if from my understanding, I think to trace Bitcoin, like yes, it goes to a wallet, but then you can like siphon it so many different ways into so many different like IPs and stuff of that nature that it becomes harder to trace.

SPEAKER_04

Fair enough, fair enough.

SPEAKER_02

That was my understanding from it, and I'm not technically suave in that in terms of that, so I don't know how accurate that is.

SPEAKER_04

Somebody that knows a lot about Bitcoin, just just let us know. Oh, where where'd Tilbulton go? Yeah, he he done disappeared. Hopefully he comes back. Um but somebody somebody who's who's savvy in in Bitcoin, let us know like what the significance of that is as opposed to just asking for straight up cash. And then of course they said that the the the perps, should I say, um, in their ransom notes are saying that Nancy's fine, but she's scared. Was it a lie? Is that a lie? Because what if she did die that night or died within their care? Are they now just bluffing to try to get some money? Like they they're saying we can't leave empty-handed. We already did we already did the deed. So let's at least get paid, right? Right. I don't know. It's i that's that's interesting that they would say she's fine but scared, and then of course they suggested that AI could have been used for the voices of the perpetrators. That was something that was brought up in the podcast that they were thinking it was AI voices and not actually them. That's interesting.

SPEAKER_03

Which that is interesting. Right, which is possible.

SPEAKER_04

It's a possibility, especially with especially with all this AI shit going around. Um, I wrote down in the notes for some reason because most criminals are stupid. I don't remember exactly what that was pertaining to.

SPEAKER_01

That's funny. These ones seem pretty smart.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But uh I I think there was it was something about it was something about maybe because it the I think they thought that that uh there were two separate nights that were people were case in the house. I don't know. Yes, I don't I don't remember why exactly I wrote that down, but I I put because most most that's why I put most criminals are stupid. Um it had it had something to do with something that people weren't fully understanding. They were like, well, why would they do this? And I was like, well, because most criminals are stupid, and that's why they would do that. Um and then I wrote down why gatekeep information, and that and that comes to um there was somebody that called in and said that they knew who took Nancy, and I guess they called or got in contact with TMZ three different times, basically saying, You're not taking me seriously. But when they first got in touch with TMZ, they said, I want one Bitcoin before I give you this information, which was equivalent to the reward that they were offering for any information given up for Nancy's whereabouts or who might have taken her. So they did that a couple of times, and I'm just like, So why not just spill the beans if you know? It just sounds to me like you don't fucking. No, and you just want you just want to get paid. Right. Which I know a lot of people would possibly capitalize on that because people are fucked anyway.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, I mean capitalism at its finest.

SPEAKER_04

Right? Right. And so like rewards are definitely like a like a double-edged sword, right? Because that brings everybody to the forefront. Like, oh, I could use that money if I just say, yeah, I I know some information. They'll just Again, they're the people you're dealing with aren't gonna be stupid enough to just hand over the money before getting the information, right? That's I think that's mostly why most rewards are if a if an arrest is made, we'll give you the money. That's how most rewards work out. But I don't know exactly um. Is there a photo of the blood on the mat?

SPEAKER_02

Uh there might be. I don't think no, I don't think no, there's not. They haven't really shit as far as like crime scene photos from my face.

SPEAKER_01

My thought process is like how long does it take to chop a body? Ooh.

SPEAKER_04

That I mean, I don't know the specific.

SPEAKER_01

Because like I think I think if there's two people, you can make you can okay, what I my thought process right now sounds really dark, so bear with me. Let's take a look. Go here we go. You got two you got two people, forty forty-five minutes, two people disable a camera, chop up a body, put it in some bags, and get it out of there. Okay. And a little bit spills on the doormat, they are not aware of that. Because like if they saw they would have probably grabbed the doormat too.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, pr probably. But I mean I mean, is it possible because because I think that had to go with um the two nights that somebody was there? Because the first night they didn't have a backpack, and then the second night they had a backpack. So is it possible that you know something happened? Or I don't I don't know. I don't know specifically. It was just it was just weird when they brought that up. When did they report her missing? The very next day?

SPEAKER_02

I think I think it was because they did a welfare check or something like that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I th I think it was the next day. I'm pretty sure. And then Savannah hasn't been on the Today show ever since because you know she's been I think she did just go back.

SPEAKER_01

Did she? Yeah, she just went back. I was reading a BBC article. I think she just went back like this week. Cool, cool, cool. Um Man, that's crazy. I mean, there's my my gut is telling me, okay, they're there for 45, 46 minutes before the camera got disabled. Yep. And then after the camera gets disabled, we don't know what happened.

SPEAKER_04

Correct.

SPEAKER_01

We don't know what their timeline is. Correct. But they were definitely gone before morning type shit.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, for sure. For sure. They were they were out before the sun was up.

SPEAKER_01

Wasn't there also footage from a neighbor's ring camera?

SPEAKER_04

I think so. Um because they I has that been released? I would love to know what's on it. I don't think so. I don't I think the only I think the only footage they released was the door was the ring doorbell from Nancy's house. Because apparently they had they had the investigators had said that they cleared every single camera on the house and then somehow miraculously forgot about the camera that was on top of the that was on the roof of Nancy's house. And right and I don't know. It's been a whole riggable roll.

SPEAKER_01

A lot of the a lot of the information is so like per feels purposely confusing.

SPEAKER_03

Correct.

SPEAKER_01

How do you forget about this? How does it take this long for that to come out? Umbrella.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. I'm sorry. If you're an officer, I do not notice a camera on the fucking roof. I don't I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

Because you're too busy partying with the men's sucky team. Hang on, hang on.

SPEAKER_04

Listen, we're gonna we're gonna get into this because I do there are some there are some theories about this, but let let's let's let's continue down this rabbit hole, okay? Um they they they apparently the investigators picked up every glove from like within like 112 mile radius. I don't know. They I think they said they had like 26 gloves sent to processing. And and OJ. Yeah, yo, that's what I wrote down glove. I wrote down glove with four question marks that said OJ.

SPEAKER_02

I told Emily that I was uh excuse me. I told Emily that I was that we I was doing some research on this and I was like watching some of this stuff, and I said, I feel like we're watching a modern day OJ Simpson thing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it just sucks me away. No, like we don't know who the killer is. Correct. But we did see a photo of the video, like a clip of the um security camera footage. Yep. And the dude's masked up, but it looks like he either has a beard, yes, or at least like a goatee mustache situation. Yeah, that's where he looks like you're uh oh yes.

SPEAKER_03

He's like, and with that, I have to go.

SPEAKER_01

Oh shit. Um my watches tell me I need to stand out.

SPEAKER_02

His name is Grizz.

SPEAKER_04

He said, I sorry guys, I got that thing that I gotta attend, I gotta go. Um but no, like, like it's been interesting because because we talked about the crime scene, and this was on one of the one of the episodes, I don't remember. It was like midway. Um, the press ordered pizza to the crime scene, and and like literally, literally, the pizza delivery guy made it to the front door. So obviously they don't have a secure crime scene. And I think the same day they got an Amazon delivery package.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they could have had delivery drivers. Like, like this is a fucking crime scene. It's a crime scene, it's an active crime scene.

SPEAKER_01

Everybody going in. Which which further goes back to my like, I don't think like it feels like they're purposely not taking this shit seriously. Yeah, they're going through the motions in a way. Yeah, dude, it's gonna suck because like my gut tells me she's dead. I mean best case scenario is they have her medication already, but if they left it behind, how would they know? Yeah, but if it is planned, if this is planned, they would have the medication to keep her alive. Yeah, just to shut this family up, and then they give her back. Correct. Scare the piss out of them. Yeah, but 35 days, like that's a terror at this point. Like you send a message after three days, yeah, for sure. You know, mom's missing for three days. The message has been received.

SPEAKER_04

A week at most, a week at most, right?

SPEAKER_01

Right? 35 days, yeah. Like, what what message are we sending? Because now, like, like I feel like my theory goes out the window at this point because it's been too long. Like, uh because otherwise, like, like even the fucking mob wouldn't do this type shit. They'd send a finger back, you know. You know, something, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Like this is diabolical. So I know that uh some people were were theorizing that it was related to drug cartel, which I'm like, why? Like, why would the cartel be be worried about an 84-year-old woman unless you know what I mean? You know, yeah, true. Unl unless uh they're they're basing it off of Savannah, uh Savannah Guthrie and and maybe her net worth and all that kind of shit. But still, I don't understand the significance. Right. I don't understand the significance of the drug cartel being involved. Why would the cartel be involved in something like that? That feels like a scapegoat. It does.

SPEAKER_01

Let's just blame the cartel.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, just blame the cartel for what? That doesn't even make any fucking sense. So they're just they're just coming up here and just snatching anybody? I don't understand. Like, cart, like, like I feel like the cartel pretty much leaves you alone if you leave them alone.

SPEAKER_02

Like a perfect example, the all that video that they just showed of the whole cartel in Mexico fucking going to war because they killed their infamous cartel leaders. Yeah, yeah. People wrote up to a gas station. Yeah, people wrote up to a gas station and told the consumers to get away, and then they blew the gas station up. Yeah. But the guys, if the cartels actually didn't care, they would have just blown it up and included the consumers.

SPEAKER_04

Right. That's I I d I don't know. It's been it's been a very interesting it's been a very interesting time. And listening to that whole uh uh podcast was just it was enough to make your fucking head spin. It really was you know and and and just to just to uh follow up with with what you're saying, Grizz, because this is where I'm trying to lead it into saying that they're not taking it seriously. Little did I know that uh Pee McCounty uh PD has their own little show. Did you know they have a they they have like a they have a show, a T a series, a TV series, almost like the first 48. Shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_03

I promise you. Nope. I promise you. Okay, so that's kind of where Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and it's called it's called Desert Law. And it's literally I swear to God, it literally follows Pima County. Yes, it call it follows Pima County uh uh police department and the goings-on that that happens in Tucson. So is it possible that this is linked to that? That they're not that that's why maybe they're not taking it seriously and they're just creating content.

SPEAKER_01

I'm so pissed if that's reality.

SPEAKER_04

That would be fucking stupid, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like like I do I do I think that they kidnapped some 84-year-old woman for content? No, no, but if they're using this situation to capitalize, they're for content. They're totally using it, yes, they're totally using it for content, 100%. Yes, and that might be why they're not taking it as seriously as they should. It's like they're putting the content first, likely. Season two, season two fucking dominoes being delivered. I don't know if it was dominoes. It was I took a shot at somebody.

SPEAKER_04

Should have said Papa John's, bro.

SPEAKER_07

That's the one yeah, yeah. Fuck you, Papa Johns.

SPEAKER_04

Fuck you, Papa Johns. But no, like like season two is just gonna be all the Nancy shit, right? Like that's that's crazy. Like that's like is that confirmed, or is that what your suspicion is? My suspicion is season two is gonna be all the Nancy shit because they're gonna cover everything that happened over the summer or over the wintertime or what what what have you. Right. And it's literally gonna be the Nancy case.

SPEAKER_03

So it's like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. When is the midterms? That's a good question.

SPEAKER_04

Finish your thought while I look that up. That is a good question. Um so uh I I'll I'll continue with this. I will say, because they I I guess people were up in arms that um the sheriff, um whatever his name is, uh was found at a at a basketball game. It was like on a Saturday or something. They're like a first week within it. Yeah, they're like, this old lady's missing and you're you're at a basketball game. I don't know. Like they're not always working, right? So I mean I I can I like part of me can let that slide because you do have off time, right? And and your life can't just revolve around that, otherwise you're gonna go fucking insane. But uh Chris Nanos, that's who it is, Sheriff Chris Nanos. Now, I will say he does sound new to the job, but like it i because I feel like he makes a lot of rookie mistakes, just from what I've heard. And I don't know. Again, could it all be linked to desert law? Is it something that you know like like you said, Grizz, they're just capitalizing on a big event that happened in Tucson just now. Yeah. Which is it's gross if you think about it.

SPEAKER_01

If that is the case, fuck them. You know, I hope they get four thousand years of bad luck. For sure. Um uh the midterms are in November. I should have known that. I don't know why I forgot.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um I wanna I hate I hate that I I feel like I can see the future a little bit. And for those listening that don't believe me, I predicted the Super Bowl outcome, so fuck you. Um I have proof. I'd rather receipts like all almost to the fucking T. Yeah. Like I was I was like what a five-point spread from the score? Anyway, that's not the point.

SPEAKER_04

We'll get into that later.

SPEAKER_01

My my money, my money is on after the midterms, we see results. We find that we we get the news, we get we get the information. Yeah, do you so you're saying this is gonna this is gonna go on till November? They can drag it out, dude. I I I like I feel like I feel like it could. I that feels like a long time.

SPEAKER_02

It does.

SPEAKER_01

It feels like a long time, but if it okay, let me let me let me rewind. If it's connected to what I think it's connected to, we'll find out after the midterms. Yeah, if it's completely isolated from those PDF files, then it's probably we'll we'll find out sooner.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, no, you're not wrong. This podcast should be about conspiracy theories. Here we go.

SPEAKER_01

I got some crazy ones.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, listen, listen. Uh the older you get, the more they start making sense.

SPEAKER_02

So it's like Yeah, it's the worst is so crazy right now that like I would almost believe anything, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's that's that's that's what I mean. The older you get and the more shit that you're privy to, and you start opening your eyes to a lot of things. It's like I I like you're you're almost to the point where I don't believe it, but I wouldn't be surprised, right? Like I wouldn't shock me.

SPEAKER_02

And if moo next to me, I'd be like that tracks. Okay. That tracks.

SPEAKER_01

Par for the course. I mean, when you start thinking about how these systems became, yep, right? Like we were like by the time we were born, these systems have already been concreted. Yeah, right, right, and and then you start to realize the people that created them are no different than the people that are running them.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's it's and then and then that's when the spiderweb happens.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, that's daily. That's when you get yeah, that's when you get the chalkboards and the cork boards and the whiteboards.

SPEAKER_01

You turn into Charlie from that's right, that's right.

SPEAKER_04

He's like, wait, wait, wait. Hear me out, hear me out. So um, I I just want to cover these last last couple of things, uh, so we can kind of wrap this up. Uh, one thing that stood out to me that they brought up in the podcast was I guess Nancy and and Savannah and I believe her cousin used to play a kidnapping game when they when they grew up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Where where somebody would take the kids and they'd call uh Nancy and be like, hey, I got your kids, and Nancy would be like, Oh no, oh my god, why would you do that? And I wrote this down being funny, but not being funny. I said, Could you imagine Nancy's fine just trying to take the title for best kidnapping scenario? Bro, bro. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

You still went down the dark path that Grizz was walking down, weren't you? Yeah, I mean, kind of.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, listen, listen. When when you bring shit up like that, I'm like, no, no way they would do that. But then again, like I just mentioned, I wouldn't be surprised. She just comes out and says, Ha, I win. And they're like, damn you, mom.

unknown

Dude.

SPEAKER_02

Because here's the thing if something like that were to happen, there'd be there'd be like the city, the county, the state, they'd go after, they'd go after her for jail. The kind of resources that they've spent. Believe it or not, directly to jail. That would not fucking happen.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you for kidding, my reference.

SPEAKER_04

Believe it or not, directly to jail. But the last thing I want I want to bring up, like like I said, I just wrote that down because I was like, this is this is terrible, but like, what if? Like that that is the biggest what if scenario.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so so white people do crazy shit like that. Crazy shit, bro.

SPEAKER_04

They do they do crazy shit. So again, I don't believe it, but I wouldn't be surprised. So the last thing I want to bring up is each ransom note that was sent, it threatened they were threatening harm to Nancy, indicating that she was alive. So each time they got one, they're indicating she's alive, right? So are they lying? Obviously, have they already done something? They haven't sent any proof of life whatsoever. So did Nancy succumb to the heart condition, as I said earlier, due to no no medication, and are they just bluffing for a payout? I think we kind of answered all of those, but as a criminal, let's put ourselves in a criminal state of mind. Say you go to snatch somebody up. Say you go for a kidnapping job. You get in there and she's older. Let's say let's let's use this exact scenario. You go in to snatch her up, she panics. And within that panic, she's like, Oh, my chest hurts. Oh no, and you're like, hey, calm down. We're just gonna we're we're gonna take you somewhere, we're not gonna harm ya, and then all of a sudden, poop, kills over. What do you do? I mean, like, what what is this scenario?

SPEAKER_02

You get rid of the body.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, you You would think that's how you would think that's how do you get rid of the body, or do you I mean, because I mean at that point, yeah, you'll have to especially if they find you and they catch up to you.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you know what? Timeout. No, if it's a heart attack, or if it's a heart attack, leave the body, I'm leaving her be leave the body because because if the what's the core she just falls it, I didn't touch her. That's natural cause. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

She just died on the on the spot. Now, could some lawyer out there do find a workaround and say, well, because of what you were doing is the direct cause of that. 100%. And if you get a good enough lawyer, absolutely you might go to jail for like involuntary manslaughter. Because yeah, maybe you weren't there to kill her, but she died in the process of you trying to take her.

SPEAKER_02

Have you never no, it's 100% what happened. Because if you heard have you not heard if you commit a crime and then, like, let's say there's an accident and someone dies from it from from the accident that you caused, you will be found for murder. You're held responsible for that. Yes, yes. So I'm sure the body was you know introduced to a huge amount of stress, and her she has a bad heart, her heart gave out. None of that would have happened if you weren't standing in the house with holding a hammer saying I'm stealing your property. Right.

SPEAKER_04

You're coming, you're coming with me. And she's like, Oh no. No, we shouldn't joke like that.

SPEAKER_02

This is we're gonna get fucking.

SPEAKER_04

No, listen, listen, listen. I'm not I'm not trying to joke at all, like whatsoever. Yes, I'm I'm I I know I I know I had one funny in there, but again, that was just me creating a giant what-if scenario. But but I don't know, because uh Grizz, to your point, how long does it take to cut up a body? I don't fucking know. I have no idea. I don't know if it would take long.

SPEAKER_02

Obviously, I tried it once and it takes quite a bit of time. I can imagine. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

He said it my whole Saturday afternoon.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know why.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, if if the It's gonna take more than 45 minutes. It has to be like okay, just walk walk with me. Um we have I I I buy whole chickens, yeah, yeah, and then I butcher those. Yep, and it's cheaper than buying like the the components separately, right? That I've never timed myself, but it's like some people I understand, like there's probably a chef listening to this show for some reason. Shout out chef, or whatever, and they're like, it only takes 10 minutes or whatever. I'm not a chef, yeah. So I I don't know how long it takes me, but chickens are also small, yes, and I understand like there's a lot of cleanup, you know what I mean? Like, like you do it, you still have to clean it up and all this shit. So, like, but amplify that by a human body. Yeah, you're gonna be replace like removing things, you want to fit it into smaller spaces. Yeah, but you're cutting okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02

I hear what you're saying, but you're cutting the chicken to eat, yes? Yeah, true. So if you're cutting a body, you're not gonna really care about what gets cut, where it gets cut. You're you're looking, depending on where you're trying to fit it, you're just you're you're thinking just size-wise.

SPEAKER_04

That's true.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right, right, right. If you've got a double bag and you just start hacking away, and I mean some of these instruments can be very sharp.

SPEAKER_01

Look at surgery tools, they are designed to parts of that body's gonna make a lot of mess, right? Like if you if you take a body at the waist, yeah, like there's like you got stuff inside that's gonna like get in the way. Yeah, so there's gonna be a mess, and I feel like that is gonna take longer than 45 minutes to clean. Right. So it at that point it's probably easier to remove a whole body, yeah, rolled up in a carpet and take it. Yeah, but probably why that happens a lot more often than chopping off of bodies. Well, because of you you chop the body at an off-site location, right?

SPEAKER_04

Right, right, right, right, right, right. Listen to us, listen to us being fucking uh We're all about to get a phone call.

SPEAKER_01

You told me to put myself in the mind of a criminal.

SPEAKER_04

No, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. For me, for me, for me, because it's like we're over here talking about, you know, ah, I don't like to, you know, you have to cut through bone, right? You that means you have to have the right instrument to cut. You can't just grab a kitchen knife and bone saw or or something. Oh bone saw this ready. Hey, pretty show, where are you going? I got you for three minutes. It's three minutes of playtime. Okay, I'm sorry, I was I was stimming. Anyway. Anyways, uh it so it's gonna take time. I have to believe that it's gonna take longer than 45 minutes to to do that whole uh that whole process. And I don't think they I don't think they came prepared for something like that anyway.

SPEAKER_01

Nah.

SPEAKER_04

So you know what I mean? So I mean I don't know. I have I have no idea. I I couldn't tell you. No nobody really knows where she is. Uh such a mystery, dude. It is a massive thing.

SPEAKER_02

It's terrible.

SPEAKER_01

We need a Scooby fucking dude, dog.

SPEAKER_02

Seriously, we need Scooby-Doo. It's somebody's mother, it's someone's daughter. Right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's it's it's a jacked situation all the way around. And and for some reason, if it does feel like, as we've mentioned, Pima County isn't taking it as seriously as they need to. And and then they're fighting the FBI over whose jurisdiction it is from my understanding, fucking crazy. Yeah, from my understanding, and and maybe television has ruined me, but from my understanding, I feel like once the FBI comes in, they do yeah, it is it's their investigation, but still it's like I understand if a if if a police department doesn't want to be deemed as not capable of taking care of something in their own town or city, right? So I do I I can imagine they do feel some type of way like we don't want you in our city, right? We take care of our stuff, don't worry about it. And it's like, but you're not that's work together, yeah. Right, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You got more minds, more eyes. I mean, Cash Patel's kind of a piece of shit, but the rest of the FBI might be good.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, they might they might be pretty chill.

SPEAKER_02

It comes, I mean, but here's the thing, though, like who gets credit for it? Does the FBI get credit for it? Which they're gonna want credit for something a case like it should be a joint effort. All these people want a piece of the pie because it's gonna make whatever department look that much better.

SPEAKER_04

What the fuck ever, dude? Just get it fucking out.

SPEAKER_01

Let's go on the road. Let's find this bitch. We got this, bruh.

SPEAKER_04

We'll we'll take we'll take all the credit.

SPEAKER_01

How many independent investigators do you think are trying to work well off?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01

Because like that that reward money got up there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it did. It's a million dollars. There's a couple, yeah, there's a couple different people offering a large substantial amount to the Guthrie family did offer a million dollars. Yeah, some lawyer didn't it offered 500,000 or something like that, or maybe it was another mil.

SPEAKER_01

I'll just go down there. I I don't got credentials, but what I do have is a hyper focused mind. Listen, put my nose on a trail, I'll find some shit for you.

SPEAKER_04

I will find it.

SPEAKER_01

Give me a little down payment. I'll tell you what, give me a down payment. Give me a down payment, I'll do what I can.

SPEAKER_02

If you were to find her, that would be one way to like get globally noticed, dude. For sure. And you would be the the baddest private eye investigator.

SPEAKER_07

You'd be dog. Jesus.

SPEAKER_04

You would be Grizz. Like at that point, I would don, I would don the name Grizz Lee. Absolutely. Why? Because the grizzly bear is coming for you, dog, and nothing can stop the grizzly.

SPEAKER_01

Bro, Grizz, Grizzly private eye.

SPEAKER_04

Like, I would No, uh no, I'm with you. I'm telling you. Arizona's not as far as it looks. He said, I'm literally almost right up the street. Yeah, hang on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We've got to do this right, okay? For the joke. We've told a lot of jokes. I know it's not it's not funny. It isn't because somebody, you know, like like somebody said that's we need levity. We do. We need levity. Yes, we do. Um, so the last thing I do want to say, uh, they did mention on the podcast, I think on the like one of the last episodes, either second or last episode, um, there was a 77-year-old man missing in Pima County, but they found his remains in the Catalina foothills, which is where all of this has been taking place. So I did ask the question serial killer or serial killers? Are they just now getting started? And that's why we have kind of a messy type of situation going on.

SPEAKER_01

We should have opened with that. Shit, we could have talked about serial killer. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want to end on that.

SPEAKER_04

I want to end on that because that can that opens up a conversation for the listeners. You let us know, right, what you think. Could it be serious? The start of a serial killer ring type deal, and this is their MO. They just snatch up old folk. They're starting with old people because they're easier to get, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And they dump them in the Catalina foothills. Maybe. Maybe I don't know. We'll have to we'll have to wait and see.

SPEAKER_01

We should look in. I mean, what is the we should look into the okay. I have I have an idea.

SPEAKER_04

Uh oh.

SPEAKER_01

We should look into Pima County records and see how many people of like elderly age have gone missing in the last ten years. Oh. See if we start seeing a pattern. Yes. Yes. Uh-oh. And maybe even maybe even go further than 10 years, but I think 10 years is a good start. Yeah, I think so. Um and we revisit this episode like down the road.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, in a cut in a couple months, and see what see what yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

In a couple months, do a little yeah, yeah, yeah. Shit, a real true crumble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a little, just a little taste.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, okay, okay. I'm I'm digging it.

SPEAKER_01

I'm digging it. I'm I'm kind of interested in that because like there could it could be nothing. We could just be blowing smoke out our ass. But that's true. There's a pattern, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Might be onto something.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe maybe Pima County has a bigger issue than they than they even realize. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

They might have some Captain Crunch on their hands. Captain. What the fuck? Serial joker.

SPEAKER_02

He didn't, because he kept going with his sentence and he he didn't bet him out.

SPEAKER_04

I heard you mention Captain Crunch. And that's I was like, he's probably, yeah, that's probably a serial killer thing. But I was just like, I kept going because I wanted I wanted to get to the end of it. That's fair. But Grizz. Grizz had to circle back. He said, double back, double back, double back. We have to get that joke in.

SPEAKER_02

He said, Yeti, watch me get him. Watch me get him.

SPEAKER_01

Good setup, good spin-up. I got you. I got you.

SPEAKER_04

Slammed up. Behind the back. Grizz is out there doing tricks all the way up to the rim. So anyway, um, let us know what you think. You know, get are you a conspiracy theorist? Do you have any theories? Do you do do you do you think this is just as strange as we think it is? Because what the fuck, man? Like, like Pima's strange in his county. Yeah, Pima County, get your shit together, dog. Like, like, goddamn. Um, are you do you watch Desert Law? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

Come on. That's crazy. Is that not fucking crazy that they have a whole fucking TV show? They probably have a fucking TikTok page too.

SPEAKER_02

From my understanding, though, the the the TV show was recorded and aired uh like a year ago.

High Time

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but they're I'm sure they're doing a season two. I can almost guarantee you they're doing a season two. And what do you think all their content is gonna be? Somebody did mention that uh one I I don't know if it was a sheriff or somebody during an interview, and they said they were saying things that were that were just out of out of the ordinary for like somebody who's investigating a crime would say. Like somebody said something about a hater's gonna hate or some shit like that. Yeah, that was a sheriff. Yeah, so I'm like, I'm like, uh that's definitely gonna be season two content, right? Like they're going to use that. Yeah, they they have to. So I I don't know. I don't know. Again, if it is, if they're not taking it seriously, strictly for content, shame on you. You know what I mean? Like, like that that shouldn't be shouldn't be that way. So but you let us know how you feel about it. Um reach out to Pima County if you want to. Tell them how good or how bad of a job they're doing. Get these put a fire under their ass. You know what I'm saying? You are the people. Let them ha make them listen. Make them fucking listen. So anyway, I think it's high time to move from this topic and Chris, I think it's high time you give us one a nice solid thought.

SPEAKER_01

I think I think you're right. I agree. I have a good I have a good one today. Let's hear it. Listen, if you drop the soap on the floor, is the floor clean or is the soap dirty?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, oh, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02

The floor's clean because you use soap to wash the body. The body's the floor, the soap is still clean because it's the body's your body. The body's the floor? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no. The body hits the floor.

SPEAKER_02

The body's the floor. So if I take a bar of soap and I wash my dirty body, the soap's not dirty. The fucking my body's clean.

SPEAKER_01

Is it though?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because soap deteriorates. Deteriorate. Say that again. No, not. Deteriorate. He said, no, fuck you.

SPEAKER_04

Soap, soap shrink, soap shrink.

SPEAKER_02

It gets smaller. Soap dissolves as you use it, which means the dirty parts disappear. Okay. So technic.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. Okay. Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_00

That was so diabolical. That was so crazy.

SPEAKER_02

When you drop this up on the floor, it cleans that spot. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04

So it so is it? So I just have a question. Like, it's so it's just clean because it touched the the floor. Like, you didn't put any elbow grease or scrubbing into it. You just said soap on the floor. It's now clean. Clean. Clean. Yeah. Pick it up. Yep. I don't have to. We're done. We're done. Done. Done. I don't know. But uh, let's let I'm gonna be real with you, Grizz. That's a good question. Cause because damn. Cause like, like, is the spot on the floor clean or is the soap dirty? I don't know. I'm gonna say I don't know. Yeti can be as confident as he wants to be, but I'm gonna double. No, the floor is clean.

SPEAKER_01

His confidence has me questioning if I should have even asked. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like I'm an idiot. Like, oh, I'm sorry. I guess this is common knowledge.

SPEAKER_01

Because like real time, like I'm starting to like overthink this shit because I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Is it not sanitary to have a bar of soap? Like is it is it is it cleaner to have like the pump soap that's sanitized.

SPEAKER_02

So actually not sanitary to use over and over.

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_02

They say you should actually what?

SPEAKER_00

What did Yeti say?

SPEAKER_02

Oh the washcloth or the the the the or the loofah. That probably has more bacteria on it than the bar of soap.

SPEAKER_04

So so that yes, that is that is accurate because they sh they tell you you should probably change your your especially like your towel um whenever whenever you get out of the shower, which you dry with. They they they say you should change it like like maybe after the second shower that you take.

SPEAKER_01

Because remember, you were washing all that towel every two dries.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, you you're you're scrubbing all that uh uh that dead skin off of you and it's and all of it stays on. Okay, yeti. Yeti's leaning back like, yeah, I was right about something.

SPEAKER_02

He said, I was just gonna take how how often do you guys change your towels?

SPEAKER_04

Uh yeah, like every like every maybe second, maybe third. Yeah. On the third one, it's gonna it it starts smelling funky.

SPEAKER_01

Because I said, Yeah, because like the water, the water yet he's about to say something stupid.

SPEAKER_04

Like it's I I go two weeks.

SPEAKER_01

It's either that, either that, or he's gonna be like, I do it every fucking show.

SPEAKER_04

Every day. No, I know that's I know that's cap. Yeah, look at it. He doesn't even want to say music pal. Yeah, I drip dry. Yeah, I drip dry.

SPEAKER_03

Look at it, look drip dry and do the helicopter.

Fun & Games

SPEAKER_04

I bet you do, you fucking you fucking freak. You fucking freak. So anyway, um, those of you listening, let us know what you think. Is the floor clean or is the soap dirty? You let us know. And listen, if somebody comes in being a buzzkill, like actually, fuck off. Anyway, respectfully. Yeah, respectfully, of course. Uh, who wants some fun in games? Let's hear it. Yeah, let's go. All right. I I I had so much fun with the would you rather question? I got another one for you. Would you rather sweat maple syrup or cry fanta soda?

SPEAKER_01

Sweat maple syrup. Oh, but that's gonna be sticky. I'm doing bubbles in the eyes. I don't know, bro. That's gonna burn like a big thing. That is gonna burn. It's gonna burn. You know what? I'll fry.

SPEAKER_02

There's nothing nastier and more annoying than being sticky. I'm sticky way too often.

SPEAKER_04

Can you imagine? But you that's crazy. Would you smell sweet though? Would you smell like maple syrup?

SPEAKER_01

Listen, we're getting into some crazy territory. Yeah, I know. No, you got you got some French toast sticks.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah. Can you imagine? Can you imagine down there, like in the area? Oh, very crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Let me explain to you like more of the reason why not to.

SPEAKER_04

Why not?

SPEAKER_02

You just you took a shower, you're getting ready for bed, right? So you're clean, right?

SPEAKER_04

No, can you imagine? Can you imagine your butt cheeks sticking together from maples?

SPEAKER_02

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You jump in the bed, you go to sleep, power goes out, it's the middle of summer. You wake up.

SPEAKER_00

I hate this. I hate this.

SPEAKER_02

It's 85 degrees in my house. You go to get up, and your body is just stuck to sheets.

SPEAKER_04

All of it sheets stuck to your body.

SPEAKER_01

The worst, the worst X-Men superpower in the history.

SPEAKER_04

Can you imagine?

SPEAKER_02

We need to make something the worst powers ever.

SPEAKER_01

Oh god. Sorry, Canada, but you get the maple syrup sweat.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, there you go. There you go. But could you could you imagine? They're just like, they're just like uh uh Colossus is like, yeah, my uh my body turns into steel. And the front is like, yeah, I get diamond, and then I'm just over here like I mean, I got maple syrup.

SPEAKER_01

Damn, diabolical.

SPEAKER_04

I get maple syrup.

SPEAKER_01

I can't believe how quickly I answered the wrong. I was like, I was like, oh man, maple syrup sounds pretty nice.

SPEAKER_02

Dude, I'm just crying some soda. That's it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I mean too don't cry. Just don't cry. You would learn to control your cries. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you can't control sweat. Yeah. Like there's only so far old spice is gonna carry me. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

It's called 76 degrees.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's gonna slide, it's gonna slide right off of you. It's just gonna I'm done. Oh my god. Okay. So those of you listening, let us know. Would you rather sweat maple syrup or cry fanta soda? You feed them with boob sweat? Ew, ew, ew. Actually. And here's the thing. Because because it'll be actually, it'll just be all stringy. Like, just imagine.

SPEAKER_02

It's just like cheese and curdled milk and all sorts of nasty.

SPEAKER_00

It's maple syrup, baby.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's it's the French toast dunkers.

SPEAKER_02

You're like, babe, I see you're sweating. Come over here.

SPEAKER_04

Breakfast. Breakfast every day. Breakfast every day.

SPEAKER_02

It's a whole new meaning.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god, that's that's so gross. That's actually. You know what?

SPEAKER_01

You just got you just gotta invest in better bedware, is all. I mean, what do you what do you think?

SPEAKER_04

I was gonna say, what do you invest in?

SPEAKER_01

Like what waterproof, waterproof uh uh bread. Bread. My pancake, actually.

Fun Fact

SPEAKER_04

Lots and lots of waffles. Lots and lots of waffles. Anyway, um let's let's go ahead and wrap this up. Who wants a fun fact? The cereal. Alright. Excuse me, especially after all that maple syrup we just talked about.

SPEAKER_02

You asked the wrong audience that question.

SPEAKER_04

No, we were perfect for that question. That's that's why, like I said, I I'm I'm loving the would you rather? So I I think that that's gonna be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna take up a chunk of fun and games. But anyway. Did you know? Y'all ready for this? That glass sponges can live for 15,000 years.

SPEAKER_01

What's a glass sponge?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, what's a glass sponge? I'm so glad you asked about it. Isn't it like a sea urchin? A what? A sea urchin? It's not a sea urchin. Those are two separate animals, but you're on the right track. You're on the right track. It's in the it's in the water, it's in the ocean. Yeah, yeah, huh. It's not a fish, yeah. Lives in water. Like, that's not that's not how we classify animals, right? Like, okay, anyway. I have a list. I have a list of the longest of the longest living animals on earth as of 2025, right? So from mole rats to Greenland sharks, here are the creatures with unusually large lifespans. Time is a bit of a confusing concept. For example, Einstein explained how time is relative for uh uh and objects experience it differently depending on how fast they move, a bit to get your head around. Even so, many animals around the world have managed to experience more than what would seem to be their fair share of time, living very long, incredible lives and defining the odds. But what is the longest living animal in the world? Scientists have spent years trying to find the secrets to a long life, and many of the species on this list may offer clues as to how we might be able to live healthier and prolonged lives in the future. So I'm only gonna touch on glass sponges today. I'm thinking I might hold on to this list for a little bit. So the longest living aquatic creature as of 2025 is a glass sponge. So glass sponges are one of the longest living organisms on Earth, despite their delicate appearance. It is estimated that they can live up to 15,000 years, and although relatively rare, they can be found in every ocean in the world, usually at depths of below 450 meters. So a glass sponge is I don't know if it's actually made of sponge or made of glass, but it is a sponge. It's a sea sponge, is what it is. Kind of like what what they use for loofahs and stuff like that. Because didn't know if you but yeah. What makes them stand out is their unique ability to generate electrical impulses across their bodies. Their flagella, tiny hairs, uh which trap bacteria in the water will stop beating if they sense danger. But unlike other types of sea sponges, glass sponges do not contract or change shape uh when stimulated. So they stay the same they stay the uh same shape.

SPEAKER_02

So Am I a sea urgent? Are you a what? And what was the last sentence you said? They don't what what what doesn't change shape?

SPEAKER_04

Uh they don't change shape when they're stimulated. The the glass sponge doesn't.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. My glass sponge, I sure I am not a glass sponge. I change shape when I am stimulated. See? Me too. Me too.

Outro

SPEAKER_04

I don't I don't know what to say about that. Anyway. Sorry. There's your there's your uh there's your fun fact for the day. I know I didn't mention it la last month, but since it's since it's a new month, I do want to give you the top five listening areas of the last uh the last five episodes. Um so does anyone want to hear him? Anyone want to hear him? Anyone should be? So I'll go from five to one. Uh we got a few spots in five, a couple in four, and then a couple in three, and then we have a two and a one. Um the ones in the top five are London, England, Seattle, Washington. Oh Uh Toronto, Ontario, and Springfield, Massachusetts. So that that's those are all the top five there.

SPEAKER_02

For the most part, except for London.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, for the most part. In the four spots, there's two. Council Bluffs, Iowa. Apparently they're still listening now. And Everett, Washington. So whoever's listening in Washington and Iowa, appreciate it. Keep it. Keep listening. We love you guys. And coming in at number three is going to be Dayton, Ohio, and Cincinnati, Ohio. So apparently we got almost all of Ohio listening. And the number two spot, Edgewood, Kentucky. Makes sense. And does anybody want to take a guess as to what the number one spot is?

SPEAKER_02

It's probably going out of the country.

SPEAKER_04

Frankfurt, Germany. They love us out there. And it's by a landslide. They are listening like nonstop in Germany. So are they really? I swear to God. Love you guys.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna have to show in Germany.

SPEAKER_04

Like it would be dope. Dude. Okay, yes. It would be a lot of fun and like have some actual like German food, like go to like a like some kind of bar and get or restaurant something. Dude, I would love to get some potato cakes.

SPEAKER_01

What's really fun is like there's German heritage in Cincinnati. And the fact that like I know that none of us are really tied to that, but it's just I find it like a fun coincidence that we're all from Cincinnati. There's German heritage, and then there's like a whole country that like listens to us. I think that's really sick.

SPEAKER_04

No, that is that is one of the coolest things. And I'm like, okay, so they they love us in Germany, and it hasn't slowed. It really hasn't slowed down since we started really mentioning like top listening areas um almost every month. I say almost every because I sometimes I'd be slacking on that, but I'm gonna try to do better this this season. Um, and it just seems like it has not slowed down since then. So Germany, I know you're listening. Frankfurt, I see you out there. One day we will have to take a trip and uh do a live show from Germany on the spot. Dude, we should. Oh my god, we should. That'd be really fucking cool. So anyway, we'll wrap this up, put a pretty little bow on it uh so everybody can get to their day and I can get to editing. Yay! So do we do we discuss the next episode? What we're talking about? I think was it conspiracy theories? Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01

I don't even have to do research on that one. I've got like 10 at the top.

SPEAKER_04

He's like, I'm gonna go right now. Like, what are you talking about? So join us in two weeks, and I guess yeah, we can we can talk about uh uh conspiracy theories, maybe our favorite ones or ones that that that that could be that that lean mostly true, but not really, right? Like like what we believe is the most true out of the conspiracy theories. But just bring your best conspiracy theories and we'll we'll we'll discuss them and how they maybe how they came about, you know what I'm saying? And uh yeah, you guys can you can you guys can enjoy that. But until then, hopefully Templeton will join us. I know Miss Me Seeks will be on uh next show, uh, but until then, say ta-ta to your fans.

SPEAKER_02

Peace out, bitches. Toodaloo.

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