The Great Burger Debate

People can handle gods, aliens, and superpowers, but give them a female lead and suddenly the internet forgets how to act. We jump from Summer Game Fest and State of Play hype straight into the backlash around God Of War Laufey, where Faye takes center stage and the loudest critics act like the franchise title has always meant “Kratos or nothing.” We break down why that argument falls apart, what it says about fandom gatekeeping, and why fantasy “rules” get weaponized the moment inclusion shows up.

From there we spin Reddit Roulette with a marriage story that’s equal parts relatable and infuriating: a partner gets pressured into social hangouts, finally finds one person to talk to, then gets punished for enjoying it. The update turns it into a real conversation about insecurity, status, and what it means to have your spouse’s back when their friends disrespect you. If you’ve ever felt forced into a room you didn’t belong in, this part is for you.

Then we hit the main course: fast food burgers. We define fast food vs fast casual, argue about whether Five Guys is overpriced or worth it, and crown favorites like the Burger King Whopper, Wendy’s Baconator, Seattle’s Dick’s Burgers, and some sleeper picks that surprised us. We even get into burger science: where the condiments sit in the stack can change the entire flavor, and yes, flipping the burger can be a legit upgrade. We close with a quick “who would you date” gaming draft and a wild fun fact about mango skin, urushiol, and a poison ivy style rash.

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Transcript

Cold Open And Chaos

SPEAKER_07 0:00

Is this thing on? Welcome welcome everyone. Everyone everyone. Come come coming to you.

unknown 0:07

Coming teeth.

SPEAKER_07 0:08

OLR OLR OLR Studios. This is FMJ. This is FMJ. F FMJ Podcast. The FMJ. The FMJ podcast.

SPEAKER_04 0:26

The weather's like, what am I gonna do with the rest of my day? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you're you're you're hot and sticky the whole time because it's like the the humidity is stupid down there.

SPEAKER_08 0:37

Yeah, fuck that shit. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 0:40

Alright, well, let's get this motherfucking show on the road, bitches. Let's kick the tires and light the fires, as they told us back in Independence Day. Welcome back to another beautiful episode of the FMJ podcast where we make all of your wildest fantasies come true. I'm just kidding, we don't do that. Unless you snatch Grizz by his beard. Stick one finger up his nose and dig for gold while performing brain surgery. That's the only way we'll do that for you.

SPEAKER_02 1:22

That's pretty true.

SPEAKER_04 1:24

That's very true. I'm telling you. I'm telling you guys, this audio smut is going to take off. They're gonna be like, yeah, we need more of that. We need more of that.

SPEAKER_02 1:33

You gotta get those acrylic nails over the microphone now.

SPEAKER_04 1:36

I'm I'm planning on it. Don't be surprised when you say I got these daggers on my hands on my fingers. I'm kidding! Anyway, we got a lot to talk about in entertainment news, so let's get the ball rolling.

Pulse Checks And Life Updates

SPEAKER_04 1:51

Let's go around the room and take check some pulses. Miss Meeseeks, you haven't been with us for like, I don't know, 38 years. Let's start with you. What does your pulse look like today?

SPEAKER_00 2:07

Oh, you know what? Here's the thing. I was actually trying to check it on my Apple Watch, but I failed this. Every time I check it, though, I'm an average of like 72, honestly. And not indicative of how I'm living my life. Honestly, it feels like it should be 172. I've been on go mode. Been on go mode.

SPEAKER_04 2:29

Yeah. Well, I know you know you recently went to took a trip.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

I know. I was in Boston and then Orlando, went to Disney. She all in everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 2:43

And she was like, you know what? The show is gonna be fine without me. I'm just gonna go have fun and travel.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Listen, it's been a blast out there in the world. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_04 2:53

I can imagine. She's like, I made friends with Mickey Mouse. Those bums are sitting in there in their little studios in their in their living rooms, just like doing nothing. Losers. Go touch creep.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

It's outside season. After opening day, I am outside until football starts. And then I'll scurry back in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:17

She's like, oh, I gotta stay inside. Gotta become a hermit. That's fair.

SPEAKER_00 3:21

Yes. Yeah, it'll come. So it's the back after the year, it'll settle down.

unknown 3:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:25

So it sounds like Miss Meese has had a very busy, busy time. Uh glad to have you back.

SPEAKER_00 3:31

I'm glad to be back.

SPEAKER_04 3:32

Unfortunately, we're down one person. Uh Yeti won't be joining us because he had a teething baby. Baby Yeti was all gnawing on stuff and just up late and kept him up. So now he's catching up on sleep. So Daddy Yeti, get plenty of sleep. Because you'll probably have to do it all over again later on. So, you know.

SPEAKER_08 3:55

Yeah, like two weeks from now.

SPEAKER_04 3:57

Yeah. Have fun. Enjoy it. Alright, so Grizz, what's your pulse look like? That good, huh? It's pretty chill.

SPEAKER_02 4:11

I'd say I'd say I'm on genuinely I'm like pretty neutral, I think. That's right. Uh I it's you know, it's funny how life has its way of doing things. Uh because like last week I feel like I had a really good start to my or like the beginning of this week, I should say. I had a really good start to my week, and then you know, nothing really happened, but like I just I don't know, just don't feel a hundred percent. So I'm just trying to navigate that, but um I'm getting through it. I mean that's the whole that's the whole thing of it, right? Like if you if every day is a high, then you kind of get numb to the good. So in a weird way, I welcome the uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_04 5:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

Uh just to keep me regulated, I suppose.

SPEAKER_04 5:12

As they say, you gotta take the highs with the lows, right? Because life is life is just a giant like an ocean, right? Life is just an ocean. Waves constantly coming and going. True. Right? True, true, true, true, true. So you just kinda have to weather storms that you that you go through, keep your head above water. You know what I mean? And uh Yeah, you know, we're we're we're all out here with you, bro. You know, we're we're we're here for you, we're here with you.

SPEAKER_02 5:42

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:43

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 5:44

Um some highlights though, uh to not stay not not to stay too far down. Uh some of my highlights of the week were I made some brioche bread.

SPEAKER_04 5:55

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

Um, and then I turned that brioche bread into French toast. And the French toast was amazing.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

Uh here I am just hungry in Cincinnati, but whatever.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

That's fine. Let's do it. It's you'll you'll get your French toast, I promise.

unknown 6:12

You'll get your French toast.

SPEAKER_04 6:14

He's like, you know what? I'm sure you can find French toast out there in Cincinnati too.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

So I'm literally flying out there flying to Seattle after I leave Orlando, first time.

SPEAKER_04 6:26

Grizz is like, listen.

SPEAKER_03 6:27

I mean, they're right next to each other.

SPEAKER_04 6:29

Yeah, yeah, totally. They're they're right next door.

SPEAKER_02 6:31

Same thing. Same thing. They're they're one they're honestly, they're connected by a steel tube. Steel tube.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

Honestly, two-hour fight, flight, four-hour flight, doesn't matter. I'm still on a flight.

SPEAKER_04 6:43

Yeah, she's so flight's a flight. So make sure that we have brioche bread and and and French toast ready to rock.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

I'll be knocking on your door next Friday.

SPEAKER_05 6:54

Do do do. It's a French Toast balloon. The FTPD. French Toast Police Department. Down! You better have a stirrup and powdered sugar on those things. Believe it or not, directly to jail if you don't. Directly. Directly.

SPEAKER_03 7:19

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_04 7:20

That's crazy. No, but that's good. That's good. That's good. I'm glad that um that you were able to make uh I you shared your uh bread with us and it looked delicious.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

So dude, if you could only taste it.

SPEAKER_04 7:32

All right, so before Miss Meseeks has a connection fit, because she's like, you don't feed me, let's move on to Templeton.

SPEAKER_05 7:42

What's up? What's your pulse look like?

SPEAKER_08 7:49

82.

SPEAKER_04 7:50

82. Nice. That's cool. Anything new going on with you? Do you make any cool foods like Grizz over there?

SPEAKER_08 7:59

Or I mean I I I cook all the time. I like new recipes, so I can't like give you a specific thing. Another one. Um don't know what that means, but cool.

SPEAKER_05 8:15

Miss Mexican. She just wants food.

SPEAKER_04 8:18

She just wants food.

SPEAKER_05 8:19

That's all. Just give me food. Give me food croissant.

SPEAKER_00 8:25

That's somebody else made for me.

SPEAKER_05 8:27

From Petty Beggie. Yeah, how about that?

SPEAKER_00 8:31

The theme themes. The theme themes.

SPEAKER_06 8:35

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 8:36

Okay, well, apparently at Templeton, Miss Meese would appreciate some food.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

He's a fuck of a lot closer.

SPEAKER_05 8:43

He is a fuck of a lot. That's definitely true. That is fair.

SPEAKER_04 8:51

She's like, You making all this food, you ain't invite me over one time? That's crazy work.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

Okay. Templeton does not share his food pictures and brag about it, though. Yeah, that is true. Some cred there because Grizz is like, look what I made. None for you. Templeton's humble. I'm so caught up in this.

SPEAKER_04 9:14

Obviously, she feels some type of way.

SPEAKER_08 9:19

She did like it. Oh my god. What are you feeling right now?

SPEAKER_06 9:25

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

And how does that make you feel? Yeah, how does that make you feel? You know, we're gonna see her in like a yellow vest downtown Cincinnati with like a little pamphlet that's like, hi, would you like to would you like to save me from dying from food?

SPEAKER_04 9:39

Make me some food.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

My friends all hate me.

SPEAKER_06 9:46

Exactly.

SPEAKER_09 9:49

Fill out this survey on YouTube.

SPEAKER_06 9:52

Like he pays people to make food for him. That's actually wild.

SPEAKER_04 9:58

I mean, I mean, paying people to make food for you, you might as well just go to a restaurant, right?

SPEAKER_06 10:03

Like right.

SPEAKER_08 10:04

I'm just saying, like, that's that's that's a thing that exists. I'm not saying I'm there's a psychology.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

There's a genuine, well, it's I guess it's a physio physiology more than a psychology because it's like a physiological response, right? That like genuinely, if you make your own food because you're making it, you're smelling it, you're already desensitized to the taste of it by the time you eat it. That's why somebody else making food tastes better because it's new to all of your senses. So, like, there's a physiology behind it. Like it's a biology.

SPEAKER_04 10:37

That's why it's a psychology, because it's psych. You don't want this food. I know you're cooking it, but psych, you don't want this food. Oh, damn. Okay. I don't know. Typically, when I make food and I taste it, I'm like, my, my, my tongue is slapping my brain, like, whoopsh.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

Yeah, no. Sometimes I look like that Denzel gif.

SPEAKER_01 11:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Like I'm thrown down. Sometimes I'm like, this smack. It could have been even better had somebody else made it.

SPEAKER_04 11:10

Could have like tripled. Like, I I get it. I I I get it. Alright, well, it sounds like everybody's

Summer Game Fest Standouts

SPEAKER_04 11:18

doing well. Like I said, we got a lot to cover in entertainment news, and since we're down one person, we're gonna have to I guess it's okay, because Yeti won't have I'm gonna have to do the Reddit roulette, but he won't have uh fun little question for us. But um lots of gaming news after State of Play and the Summer Game Fest uh just happened. I'm gonna give a couple of them, well, a few of them, that um kind of stuck out to me. Maybe maybe a few of you gamers in here would would appreciate some of them. Uh we have a Gundam Rogue Orbit, which is kind of giving armored core vibes, but it's a new Gundam game that's coming out. So you'll get to pilot one of the Gundams if everybody if anybody is familiar with Gundam or Gundam Wing or Gundam Seed. Uh anything like that. We got that coming. Uh Final Fantasy VII Revelation. The conclusion to the Final Fantasy VII remake trilogy, that was announced, and I think that is due out sometime next year. So I'm stoked about that one. Alien Isolation 2 got announced, and it will be coming our way. Following a new protagonist on a new planet, obviously with the same mechanics of the first Alien Isolation. Is anybody, Grizz or or Templeton, have you played Alien Isolation at all? No, but that sounds fun.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

What about me?

SPEAKER_04 12:39

Do you game Miss Meese?

SPEAKER_05 12:46

Moving on. The fine game.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

Moving on. I think there was a technical difficulty. Yeah, I think there was.

SPEAKER_04 12:58

Yeah, she might have said yes. So cleansing. I gotcha. I gotcha. So Alien Isolation, if you guys haven't played it, it's real, it's probably the one of the best survival horror games ever. The AI was geared to absolutely terrify the shit out of you. It learns as you play, learns your playstyle. It is a huge cat and mouse game. The alien is hunting you aboard the ship that you are on, so it really feels like the first alien because it's only one, it's not multiple. Well, later on down the road, but only one is hunting you throughout the entire game. And so we have Alien Isolation 2 coming our way. Uh Paramount announced the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the Last Ronin game, which everybody thought was dead in dead in the water, which is absolutely wild that they announced it. It's created by the mines behind Bayonetta, Nier Automata, and Ninja Gaiden 4. So there was So it's gonna be hard as fuck. I think so. And a lot of people were expecting that it was they it was rumored to play like 2018 God of War back in the day when they first mentioned it, when they first announced it. But seeing as who's making it, I would expect more high, like fast-paced, high-stylized gameplay, and hard as fuck. Like it's going to be it's gonna be difficult, and I'm kind of okay with that. We had Marvel's Wolverine release gameplay footage, and we got a release date, September 15th. I am taking that week off because I want to play that game so fucking bad. It looks so good.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

The gameplay looks amazing.

SPEAKER_04 14:33

Oh, it looks so good. Wolverine is going to go fucking dumb, and I cannot wait. Some people were wishing it'd be open world, like Spider-Man was, and I'm like, he's not the superhero for that, right? Like Wolverine is not the type. Like Spider-Man, yes, you need an open city because you're a web swinging superhero. Yeah, right. Like if you don't have that, you're missing like the key component of being Spider-Man. Being Wolverine, he's just Wolverine.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

I mean, I guess they could like implement travel. Yeah, exactly. Like if it was open world, he could he could motorcycle around.

SPEAKER_04 15:12

So he does have a he does you do get his motorcycle in it, but it's it's going to be much more linear. Um, I I think it's gonna be kind of like um you'll have bigger areas kind of like have big areas to explore, but a much more linear story than like Spider-Man does and have all your kind of stuff. Right. Yeah. Because I do I do know Wolverine does travel around a lot. You know, he's been to Japan, you know what I mean? True. From Canada. He's uh he goes everywhere. So to have an open world game like that, that's that's gonna be hard to translate unless you focus solely on like one thing. You know what I mean? True. So we'll see. We'll we'll we'll have to wait and see. We got September 15th of this year is the release date. Until Dawn 2 was announced. Looks fucking good. I cannot wait for that. It looks very different from there's a huge contrast from Until Dawn, the first one and the second one. Until Dawn was very dark, it was gritty. Uh this one is brighter, vibrant, but looks fucking absolutely insane. So, and of course, there's a part in the trailer that everybody's like, you gotta remember not to push Josh off the cliff, and we're like, well, we don't know because they don't show you the option that they pick. Because it's like, depending on your gameplay, you know what I mean, you don't know what's gonna happen at that point, how they get there, if he even shows up all the time, you know what I mean? So it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see what happens uh in Until Dawn 2. So I'm kinda stoked about that. Now, the last two I want to talk about really big games for me. Stellar Blade Blood Rain was announced with a trailer.

SPEAKER_08 16:51

Yeah, I saw that this morning.

SPEAKER_04 16:53

Bro. I can't fucking wait. That shit looks fucking dope as hell. It's already causing controversy because the new protagonists that they're following, Evie, instead of Eve from the first game, that a lot of people are saying she looks like a child. Even though the model is literally like 33 years old. The problem is going back to Miss Me Seeks, inclusion Remember when you were talking about like um uh Korean beauty products and all that kind of stuff, and yeah. So uh Stellar Blade is a Korean-made video game, and they use actual, like they use Korean models for it. They are just like Asians are typically very youthful in like their 20s and 30s. Yeah, yeah. They they just are, and and a lot of people are like, Why'd they make her look 12? And it's like when you see the model that that they use to character, she's just young looking, but she's 33. She's literally old enough. Like, it's fine, it's it's a-okay. But people are like, it's kind of weird that that's all you see is a child's face. And I'm like, Yeah, that is weirdo behavior. That's that's diddy beh that's diddy kind of behavior, right? Like, that's but that's on you, yeah. That's on you. That that's on you to be like, oh, why is it why does it look like that? I did not notice that at all. Like that didn't that didn't register in my mind. I was seeing the gameplay, the fluidity of like it it's gonna play very differently from the first Stellar Blade because she has like gauntlets and she's much more close combat oriented as far as like fists, you know what I'm saying? So she will have a blade, but it it'll be kind of it. Did anybody see the guy? No. From say that again? Gyver. No. No, damn, that's crazy. I'm the only one. No, the case. So there's Mick Gyver. Yeah, there's Mick Gyver, and then there's the Gyver, which was a manga, which was a manga originally, and they created a movie back in like the 80s. Guy gets like this alien suit of armor, right? And he's a total badass, but he's got blades that come out of his elbow, and that's basically what she has. No, I'm telling you, you need to watch it. It's fucking dope.

SPEAKER_00 19:09

That's what I want.

SPEAKER_04 19:10

Yeah, it's fucking dope. It's a blades out of your elbow. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

Oh, you have no idea.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

Assassin's Creed shit, but it's an elbow.

SPEAKER_05 19:22

Back the fuck up.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

Could you imagine though? Like you have a retractable like bone or so many people would be murdered. Yeah, people in the body would be like, hey, back up.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

You know what? Fuck it. So fast.

SPEAKER_00 19:35

So fast. Do you know how many men would be murdered? All of them. Myself probably would have murdered hundreds of men. All of them. As a rounding 40 hundreds of men.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

You could become Meeseeks the Ripper.

SPEAKER_04 19:53

Yeah, Meeseeks the Ripper.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

I'm that's so hot.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

Meese the Ripper. How crazy. So we got that to look forward to. I cannot wait. I think it's uh slated to come out next

God Of War Faye Backlash

SPEAKER_04 20:10

year. Sometime. I think it was spring or something like that. And then last but certainly not least, because this really put some lead in my pencil, God of War Lao Fay. We got a new God of War coming. It was announced back by a 20 by a 20 minutes of gameplay. So we are following in the new God of War, if anybody has ever played God of War 2018 or Ragnarok. They will be following Kratos' wife, Faye. It will pick up immediately after Kratos and Atreus kind of have their ceremony for her after she dies. They uh burn her body, cremate, essentially. And she is whisked off to the place where gods go after they die. So essentially, this area has been taken over by lots of different gods of war. Um in the in the gameplay trailer, they showed, I think, um, the god of war from a Mongolian god of war, the Mongolian God of War, and Egyptian God of War. And they're kind of like talking shit to Faye, like, you know, you're not even the I I think they're telling her she's not supposed to be there, because I don't I don't know if you guys plan on playing God of War 2018 or anything, but there's reasons why she shouldn't be there, and somehow she got there anyway. So there's gonna be a whole story to unveil. People are kind of obviously having an issue with it because they're like, Oh, it's mom of war. Oh my god. Mostly it's because they they have a woman protagonist, and they're like, That's always a big deal. It's such a like so Miss Meeseeks, gonna circling back to you. Let's walk in baby. Because I have thoughts I that's why that's why I want I'm glad you got on here because I want to hear from you. Even as a non-gamer, like, does that bother you that people have such an issue with playing as a female protagonist?

SPEAKER_00 22:10

Abso fucking Louie. Absolutely. Mind you, my lens is also I am a leader in a male-dominated field. People take issue with the female protagonist, yes.

SPEAKER_04 22:24

And it's it's just it's so goofy to me. Why? I don't get it. It's it's so goofy to me because they're over here complaining that you can't have God of War if you don't have Kratos. And I'm like, I mean, yes, you can, because the game isn't called Kratos, God of War, it's called God of War. God of War. And a lot of people have been pointing out that Kratos was only God of War from the end of the first game to just the be to just after the beginning cutscene of the second game. Because in God of War 1, he's not God of War. He's the Ghost of Sparta. He's just killing other gods. And once he kills Ares at the end of the game, he then becomes the God of War. In the beginning of God of War 2, right, he's God of War, but Zeus strips him of his godly powers, and he is no longer God of War. And you are playing the entire game of God of War II and Three, not as the God of War, but as Kratos, the ghost of Sparta. And in God of War 2018 and Ragnarok, he's not the God of War at all. He's just there. He's Kratos. Yeah, he's a dude. And he's a dude.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Yeah, but the incels are mad about it because they don't want women to play in the game.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Okay, but also, I take so much issue with the fact that people are so deeply invested in fantasy. Most of the time it exists in a fantasy level, right? And you can apply this amongst uh industries, genres, whatever, movies, everything. They fantasy genre and they get caught up in like semantics and like it can't be a black mermaid. Yeah, it can't be a woman. Yeah. What do you mean? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:20

It's all made up. What do you mean? It's not real.

SPEAKER_04 24:24

It's not real and it can't hurt you.

SPEAKER_08 24:27

Mermaid, mermaids can't be black. What are you talking about?

unknown 24:31

What the fuck are we talking about?

SPEAKER_02 24:33

How is my daughter supposed to see herself if in the mermaid?

SPEAKER_00 24:39

We're talking about splurgs canoe. You're like arguing about a thing. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 24:50

How is my daughter supposed to see herself in this mermaid?

SPEAKER_04 24:54

What? Just so we're clear, she's never gonna be a mermaid. Alright, just so we're clear. Let's just get that out of the way right now. She's never gonna be a mermaid.

SPEAKER_05 25:04

Doesn't matter. It's the craziest thing. Craziest thing. It's it's it's wild.

SPEAKER_04 25:08

It absolutely is. It's wild to me. And and so people are trying to argue that now to be fair, Kratos is a demigod. He's the same as Hercules, whatnot, because he is the son of Zeus, right? So he's he is a demigod. But regardless, he doesn't have the title of God of War throughout like majority of he's got like seven games where and and in only half a second of two of them, he's God of War. So I don't understand the problem here, especially when they're they're going to open up the lore, expand more on characters that we all she was already established, right? Like we knew we know who Faye is, we know what she's done, especially if you played both games. You know that she was a lot more, right, than just Kratos' wife. Literally, in God of War Ragnarok, you learn that she goes toe-to-toe with Thor, and it winds up in a stalemate. Like she she fights Thor straight up. You never see it happen, you just hear the story. Now we get to follow Faye in this afterlife, and you get to see why Faye is such a badass and how she like literally tamed somebody like Kratos. I just don't I don't understand the hate for it. I feel like it's forced. I feel like people are just mostly it it it all it boils down to is it's a female protagonist and they don't like it. It makes them uncomfortable. They're like, I don't want to play with a woman, I want to play with my meaty man Kratos. I want the peck and the thweat all up on me. And it's like it's all about the penis.

SPEAKER_05 26:39

I don't know what to tell you, bro.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

Like they love penis so bad.

SPEAKER_05 26:45

They love that penis.

SPEAKER_04 26:47

They love the penis.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

Love it.

SPEAKER_04 26:49

Give them some head. Oh, so yeah, yeah, that's that's what we've got to look forward to. I'm stoked because that 20 minutes of gameplay that they showed. If you guys get an opportunity to check the trailer, take a look at it. Deborah Ann Wall plays Faye. She played it from God of War 2018 to Ragnarok. She will now play. She actually did all the motion capture and all that kind of stuff for Faye in the new game that's coming out. She is awesome. I uh I I think the only thing I've really seen her in is Daredevil from you know from the start to the ending of of Daredevil and Disney Plus.

SPEAKER_08 27:28

This the series?

SPEAKER_04 27:29

Yes, the series. The Netflix series Daredevil into the Disney Plus series of Daredevil. She played um Karen in Daredevil. And she was she was awesome. So I'm really I'm really pumped for this new God of War. I cannot wait. The next year in gaming, gamers are gonna eat so well that's not even funny. Our plate is overran with options. So let us know how you feel, what games stood out to you the most. That was only just like a handful of them. There were a lot of games announced. There were several that I I left off the list because, you know, I just wanted to focus on mostly ones that were that pertained to us. But I'm sure the big name, you know, the big names are the ones that stick out the most. So let us know what you think about it. How do you feel about Faye being being the main focus on God of War? If you disagree, I don't know to tell you. I just throw the fuck up, I guess. Stop being watching. Stop being shot.

SPEAKER_03 28:32

Go touch some grass.

SPEAKER_04 28:33

Go touch some grass, nerd. I don't I don't get it. I don't get it. I think most of them are basement dwellers anyway, so good luck.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

What if they're not even real? What if they're just like no no?

SPEAKER_04 28:47

I I I I've seen a lot of TikTok videos, and they still could just be like AI, but I don't think they are. But there are there are a lot of TikTok videos of people saying that, oh, I don't care if they made a God of War with Hercules, I still wouldn't play it because it's not Kratos. And I'm like, that's so fucking weird. It's weird to me.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

That's it's it's just those are the probably the same people that voted for that orange guy.

SPEAKER_04 29:09

Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

It's that mentality. It's that mentality. Well, I wouldn't just vote for anybody, it's God would be Yeah, it's just and I'm like, what what do you mean?

SPEAKER_04 29:18

Like it it doesn't have to be Kratos, right? Like we literally, yes, we followed Kratos's story because that's who that was our focal point at the at the time. That's who we followed through Greece, and then he went to the Norse mythology and all that kind of stuff. We just got prequel stories to who he was beforehand, right? Like, that's all we got. But if we look at it through that lens, that means Metal Gear Solid should have never been as successful as it has been. Like, we followed Solid Snake through I think Metal Gear and then Metal Gear Solid, and then Metal Gear Solid 2, we had a whole new protagonist, Raiden, right? And then Raiden went off and got so popular he got his own fucking game. So I don't know what the problem is. I don't I don't I don't see the problem. And then in and then in Metal Gear Solid 3, we follow Big Boss, who is not Solid Snake, and then in Metal Gear Solid 4, we're back to Solid Snake, and then in five, it's not Solid Snake again. So I'm like, I don't understand the hate. To me, I just it's forced, it's very forced, and people are just upset because it's not daddy Kratos. The same way people were upset in The Last of Us Part 2, and they were like, But daddy Joel! But daddy Joel!

SPEAKER_02 30:27

You know what? We need to just everyone needs to sign up for better help and deal with their daddy issues. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_04 30:35

That's what it is, it's daddy issues. They're probably they're probably dunking their Oreos in water because their dad never came back with the milk. That's that's what happened. Dang them. Hey yo.

SPEAKER_05 30:47

Hey yo.

SPEAKER_04 30:48

Yeah, that's right. Wait, wait, nope, nope, because that's not a joke. Anyway, um, anyway, yeti's not here, so he doesn't have a fun question

Reddit Roulette Marriage Jealousy

SPEAKER_04 31:03

to ask us. So we're gonna go ahead and just do Reddit Roulette. Okay. And I need somebody, anybody, give me, pick a number between one and five. We're gonna do it in old.

SPEAKER_02 31:13

Should I roll a dice? Hold on. I have excited die. Hold on.

SPEAKER_04 31:16

Dude, do it. Hold on.

SPEAKER_02 31:17

Do it.

SPEAKER_04 31:18

Wait, is he gonna he Oh, he has to go. Okay, so Grizz is gonna go get a dice, uh die right now. Is it die? Die is singular, right? One singular die. Yes, probably.

SPEAKER_02 31:29

Uh I didn't have to go too far, so hold on. Well, he's he's returning. Here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go. Or does it five?

SPEAKER_04 31:36

Two. Is that what landed on the number two? Landed on number two. Okay. So I'm gonna do in one. Oh, that was awful. Two. Two. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 31:50

Ooh. Do we I don't know. I don't know if we want to do this one.

SPEAKER_04 31:58

Am I the asshole because my wife committed suicide?

SPEAKER_05 32:02

What the moving on. I don't think I want to do that one.

SPEAKER_04 32:06

I don't think we need to do that one. I don't think I want to do that one.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

Today's not the day.

SPEAKER_04 32:10

Yeah, today is definitely not the day. So am I the asshole for telling my wife she can't have it both ways. Does that sound better? Does that sound does that sound better? This one is. This one is like we need more.

SPEAKER_02 32:25

Just okay. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 32:28

That's actually crazy. I I can't sorry. I can't believe somebody actually asked that on Reddit. Like, that's that is crazy.

SPEAKER_09 32:35

That's fucking wild. That's fucking competing about it. Yeah. Are we talking about openings or or or or what?

SPEAKER_04 32:44

I don't know. What were we gonna say, Chris?

SPEAKER_02 32:47

Probably something a little f twisted, but uh it feels like it was written answer. No, no, no. It feels like the answer is in the question. Because if you're if you're brazen enough to ask that question, yeah, amen brother.

SPEAKER_04 33:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You probably had a hand in it. Yeah, you probably had a hand in it. So, anyway, am I the asshole for telling my wife she can't have it both ways? So let's let's let's start here. We've been married for nine years. We're in our 30s and have two kids. For the most part, I think our relationship is great. We don't really struggle with jealousy or insecurity or the like, usually until recently. I know this makes me sound horrible, but I never really got along with one of her friend groups. These are some of her work friends she started hanging out with about a year ago. Nothing really against them, just didn't really think it was my crowd. It's two married guys and two women who are divorced, one recently so, and the few times I came along with my wife to their hangouts, it was mostly work talk I didn't find particularly interesting. So usually I'd just stay home and care for the kids to save money on the sitter and let my wife go. But I was clear with my wife that I just didn't really enjoy that particular group, and while I encourage her to go out and socialize, I just didn't want to come. She was fine at first, but then the group started pressuring her into bringing me as the guys started bringing their wives around, and one of the gals found a partner, so she was feeling awkward coming without me. We argued for a bit, but after a few mi uh but after a few times, she said it was important to her that I come, so I agreed. Well, to my surprise, it turned out I get I get on really well with one of the guys' wives. We just hit it off immediately because we're a very similar type of geek, so we'd talk about TV or movies or anime while the others did their thing. I thought I cracked the code because now whenever spouses were invited to the hangouts, I could show up and have a good time. And I thought it'd make my wife happy. It did not. Instead of her being happy that I'm coming, she's now acting jealous and saying that it's weird how close I'm getting to that woman. I told her it's not weird, she's just the one person I get along with well in that group outside of herself. My wife asks if I would make more of an effort to not just interact with her, and I said no. I again said that the choice was hers, she could invite me to the hangouts or not invite me, and I would respect it. Moreover, I'm not actually close to that woman. I don't have her number, we aren't connected on socials, I genuinely have no contact with her outside of the group, but if my wife is going to insist I come to these things, I'm not going to force myself into having a worse time. My wife said I'm an AH asshole for not putting her needs and wants first. But I told her that's selfish to claim because she's basically telling me to put myself last regularly, so she can both get to bring me to these hangouts, but also discourage me from enjoying myself when I come. It seems controlling and petty, so I just again said she can decide if she wants me there or not. But she does not get to dictate how I behave. So, am I the asshole?

SPEAKER_08 36:08

I have two questions before I answer. I have a question.

SPEAKER_04 36:13

Alright, so let's start with let's start with one person. So, Miss Meese, you had something to say.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

I not the asshole. I wouldn't go. Okay. I would not go. Like, I would not go. I would not because what do you mean? Like he was trying his best to get along with some with this group that he's cornered into hanging out with anyway, and then he connects with somebody, and then she has beef with it.

SPEAKER_09 36:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

Like, no. Yeah. No, I'd be like, fine, then I just won't go.

SPEAKER_09 36:50

That's fair.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

I wasn't disinterested in the first place. I'm here because I I was only here, so I don't get fined.

SPEAKER_04 36:56

I was gonna say I was gonna say that. That's that's fair. That that's a fair assessment. That that crazy. Yeah, that's honestly a fair assessment. Okay, Grizz, you had something to say.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

Uh, yeah. First of all, I I agree with me seeks. Um, do we know how old they are? They're in their 30s.

SPEAKER_04 37:16

How long and they've been married, they've been married for nine years, they're in their 30s, and they have two kids.

SPEAKER_02 37:22

I feel bad that that was all said, and I'll not hear it.

SPEAKER_04 37:25

It's all good.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

It's all good. Um, okay, so they've been married nine years and they're in their 30s.

SPEAKER_10 37:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 37:31

They've been together too long to not know how each other operate, and they're too old to be acting that way because the mature thing to he sounds like now, granted, I will blanket statement just so nobody comes at me for picking a man's side. Um uh sorry, I lost my train of thought. Uh, I will blanket a statement saying that when people are writing something, they often are trying to probably paint themselves in the better light. Um, so we don't know her side of the story, we only know her side through his lens. That's fair. So, with that being said, we're just talking about that. Um he sounds like he's emotionally stable and emotionally mature and is saying, like, I don't even want to go to these things. He's probably a little bit autistic. He probably doesn't like have good social, um uh like social skills, like his social skills, maybe, or like maybe he's just like has a little bit of social anxiety. Who knows? It's not super clear, but what is clear is he doesn't really like any interacting with these people. He found one person that he can get along with because they have similar interests, right? And it can kind of like distract him from this thing, and his wife seems upset about it because she's a woman, which is upsetting because we're too grown to be acting like you can't be friends with someone who is not the same sex as you.

SPEAKER_04 39:11

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

That's my two cents. I don't think he's the asshole. I think that uh they probably just have to have better communication. Maybe they're not good at communicating, but they've been together nine years, they should be.

SPEAKER_04 39:23

Should be, should be, but that's not always the case. That's fair. Hold hold that thought. Templeton, you said you had a question.

SPEAKER_08 39:31

Well, no, that was basically what I was gonna say is like what Grizz was saying, like, what does she specifically want from that situation? She's forcing him to go to these things, he doesn't want to go. He is trying to find a way to enjoy those things, and when he does, she doesn't like it. Right. Like, what the fuck do you want?

SPEAKER_04 39:54

Well, that's why he's asking. He's asking, is he the asshole for telling his wife she can't have it both ways?

SPEAKER_08 40:01

You have to communicate. That is fair. Yes, you do. Like compromise. Communication is part of it, but I'm very introverted. Very, very introverted. Like, leave me the fuck alone most of the time. But my ex-wife would force me into these positions where I'd go and hang out with her friends who I did not know, knew nothing about. But I was expected to like interact and be active and be in like in the middle of the moment, and I didn't want to. I didn't even want to be there. So for you to get upset that the person finds someone that they like connect with and can communicate with, that's fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_01 40:52

I do I do.

SPEAKER_00 40:58

And that may be, yeah, it may be communicated. Like, I am not doing well in these situations, I don't enjoy it. And like she was like, oh no, come on because I want it. And like, if you can't visualize yourself, like you're with your partner to be with your partner, and like they show up how they show up. And you knew that that's not how he rocked before you put him in that situation to tempt him.

SPEAKER_09 41:25

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

Like, you know, your partner, you knew that's not how he rocked before you put him in that situation, and he's being a good sport about it. Yeah, and at no point are you thinking, like, man, this could be really draining on him, and like he's finally finding something that makes it easier for him. Like, hell yeah, I love that because I'm also getting what I want out of it. But she's just like sucking the energy out of him. And I she probably doesn't see it that way, but like ultimately that's what she's doing to him. That's the impact.

SPEAKER_05 41:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:58

I agree with that. So I I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and say not the asshole, because he was very clear that especially especially knowing that he said he went out with them already once, and it was just work talk. And he's like, I don't want to be a part of this, you know, if if that's all that you guys are doing, because that's not I'm not interested in that. And then of course they started bringing their significant insignificant others around, probably because maybe they were like, I don't know, maybe that maybe they wanted to get to know him or whatever the case may be, because they they're like, we can all go out as couples and blah blah blah blah and have a good time. And that I get that to a point, you know what I mean? Like, you don't want somebody to feel left out or like they're kind of third wheeling or whatever, whatever the case may be. So I kind of I kind of get it a little bit from that aspect. But yes, if you are if he finds somebody that he clicks with, because let's be honest here, I was in kind of a similar situation with that, if we're gonna be totally honest. And I was just like, my whole my whole response to it was number one, I wasn't talking to her really nearly as much as the guy I was talking to that that night. Like we were literally like I was I connected with Rob because we we talked about anime and all kinds of shit that whole entire night. And then this other girl would chime in every now and then, and we just like it was because I talk to everybody, right? Like I talk to everybody in a in a group situation, and you really do, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

You and I are pretty similar in that regard. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:32

Yeah, me and me, me and Yeti are are kind of like we float, especially when Yeti gets really inebriated.

SPEAKER_08 43:39

He becomes just No, I'm I'm just saying I'm like uh easily the most introverted person in this like chat or whatever. Like all of you guys are like super outward and like extroverted, and like you like to get to know people, you like to talk. And that's not My thing.

SPEAKER_04 44:01

Yeah. And that's fine.

SPEAKER_08 44:03

Leave me the fuck alone. I don't want to talk to you.

SPEAKER_04 44:05

Yeah, and that's and that's a-okay. It's just it's funny, it's funny that I've been in that situation before where it's like it's a group setting, and you just like you talk to people, you just talk to everybody, and now all of a sudden your significant other is like I don't like that you spoke to so and so.

SPEAKER_08 44:20

And I'm just like I love that about you guys. Like I fucking love that about you guys, but it's just not who I am.

SPEAKER_00 44:26

So uh the longer I think about this situation, the more I'm like, this girl doesn't seem to know how to read a room. And so I had a Christmas party for my work, right? It was all co-workers, and one dude, one dude brought the girl he was dating and her kid. Okay, everybody else just co-workers, yeah. One dude, we talked about that all through the holidays. That was the topic of the holidays. It was like everybody was so confused because we thought this was like a coworker outing, like that was the whole understanding. And one dude, we were like, read the room, buddy. Like, we don't want to hang out with you and your family. Like, I mean, maybe if that was the condition, the vibe, yeah. Like typically, if one person brings their significant other in that setting, that's the person you're like, you're fucking tone deaf.

SPEAKER_02 45:26

Yeah, it's like it's just or what if what if that person can't be trusted, and their significant other is like, you're not going to this outing unless I go with you. Yeah, I don't trust you.

SPEAKER_00 45:39

This doesn't feel like the case because he's being dragged, right?

SPEAKER_02 45:44

Right? He's the one being I'm talking about your party.

SPEAKER_05 45:48

Talking about your scenario. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With your co-worker guy. So she should have been worried about it. Should have been worried. Should have been worried. She knew. She's seen the writing on the wall.

SPEAKER_09 46:03

The message came from inside the house.

SPEAKER_05 46:05

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 46:05

The call was coming from inside the house. So yeah, in this particular situation.

SPEAKER_04 46:13

That's actually not leaving the room. That's actually crazy. So there were some comments. You know, uh, some people said, Not the asshole. Your wife sounds like she needs some fucking therapy. Good luck, bro.

SPEAKER_03 46:29

Direct but accurate.

SPEAKER_04 46:31

Yeah, uh, this person said, honestly, she sounds exhausting. The guy can't win no matter what he does. Uh, in quotes, says just attend and have a really horrible, depressing time. That would mean the world to me, okay? Thanks, this guy's wife.

SPEAKER_05 46:43

It would I would be thrilled.

SPEAKER_04 46:51

It continued and said, I would be thrilled out of my mind if my better half geeked out with someone at one of my events, and then, of course, have fun talking have fun talking anime, this in quotes, while I get soundly beat with jumper cables for the next 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_08 47:03

Okay, me probably so if you love a person, why would you make them go do something that makes them miserable? Right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

Play this through the ride home. The ride home, you're either arguing or you're like, oh my god, I had such a great time. I was talking about this on it. Oh my god, I was talking about this on it. I had this like the great, like the ride, like just see this through. Like, see the like the joy. Like, if you just let somebody experience a little bit of joy, like it everybody's experiences. It's such, it's so, it's so easy. And like the worst part is I guarantee you that she like she probably bitched when she when he didn't go, yeah. Probably bitched to her fucking friends. Like, he doesn't want to go. He doesn't come with me to any with anything, he doesn't socialize, he hates all my friends, and then he goes, and then she's like, he came with me, but he hated it the whole time, or he flirted with this girl the entire time, but can't win. And I know I'm a woman, and I know how it gets received, and you're like, Well, okay, okay, yeah, how exhausting. And I think about like I would be exhausted.

SPEAKER_04 48:21

Yeah, that's it's pretty exhausting. This other person said, Not the asshole. So does she just want you there's arm candy? Behold, this is my husband accompanying me to social engagements as requested. They won't lie.

SPEAKER_02 48:34

It's an accessory.

SPEAKER_00 48:37

It's a blanket.

SPEAKER_04 48:39

Accessory. So we do mind this blanket. Yeah, we do have we do have an update on this on this.

SPEAKER_00 48:46

They divorced.

SPEAKER_09 48:50

We were cheating!

SPEAKER_04 48:53

So the update says, Hey everyone, thanks for all the replies. I had a talk with my wife about what was different about this group compared to others, and after we considered it for a while, it came down to two things. First, I suppose I should mention for context that my wife and her friends are all MDs or PhDs and teach at a university, where my wife started teaching after getting her own master's degree in public health. She was already in a role of shop talk in this context means a lot, and I do mean a lot of very funny stories about how their stupid grad student left uh cell cultures at the wrong temperature or some such or how bad the doctors getting their board certification are this year. I tried, I genuinely did, to take interest, but I can't. Not for long. I genuinely cannot participate in these in these conversations in a meaningful way, and whenever I try talking to some of these people about other stuff, it just doesn't click. I see the lack of interest. Then they sort of drift back to their own conversation. That's why I didn't feel like I should come from pretty early on. So with that in mind, we discussed why she felt it was important that I come despite them clearly not actually enjoying my company and me not enjoying theirs. So turned out one of those friends jokingly said she thought my wife married down because I only have my bachelor's degree and never even considered doing anything more, while my wife basically excels at everything she tries, and I'm very proud of her. And this made her feel insecure because she was embarrassed by me talking about immature stuff around her highly educated, well-read friends. I told my wife I think her friend sounds bitter, and I don't have to prove my worth to her. To be clear, I own my own business, it's doing very well, and it allowed me to support my wife through school, many, many years of school, and make my own hours while she worked ridiculous hospital hours while at the same time working on her thesis, so that I could take care of our kids and and home, which I mostly paid for because for most of our life together I was making much more than her. I do now as well I do now as well, but by far a smaller margin. Also, we cleared up that outside that joke, it wasn't really a prevalent issue, but it was made worse by that guy's joke about me and his wife hanging out being a playdate. So having discussed this, it does seem to mostly be stemming from some insecurities on my wife's part. Conversation has was a bit tense, and I still maintain that I'm willing to go to the hangouts with her if she wants, but I still refuse to be something I'm not, or be made to feel inadequate for what I am, or try to prove my maturity to her friends. I'm a good husband, I'm a good father, I'm happy with the life I have, and I thought she was as well, which has uh which she reassured me she was. So with that in mind, we decided that we'll decide on future attendance on a case-by-case basis. But obviously, future attendance uh but obviously there's no easy solution to her feeling insecure. So that's something we still need to work on. At least I know she didn't think I was being unfaithful, which is reassuring.

SPEAKER_08 52:01

So this is why we should memorize cussing people the fuck out.

SPEAKER_00 52:10

Divorce divorce, none of that, none of that, none of that, zero percent of that explanation actually put it back to him, yeah, to him, zero percent of the explanation, yeah, zero that was the most selfish, self-absorbed. That woman divorced, don't do it divorced, divorced immediately. You're embarrassed because your husband's being who he is. That yeah, that's crazy. That's what I got out of that.

SPEAKER_02 52:43

He only has a bachelor's degree and he needs to do business and he could be through med school. That's all. Leo, how do you even say this in the most elegant? Don't fuck yourself.

SPEAKER_00 52:55

She typed that by the way. She typed that. She found that question on Reddit and she said, baby, let's go through this answer together. Let's go through this answer together. She typed that. That's not him.

SPEAKER_04 53:09

That's that's actually that's actually wild. That's wild.

SPEAKER_08 53:12

That's why we should cuss people out more often than we do.

SPEAKER_04 53:15

No, I I agree.

SPEAKER_02 53:18

That was not his word. If he did type that, he typed. Fuck you, fuck everything about you.

SPEAKER_04 53:27

That's that's that's actually crazy. Because if that if that is to be true, right? If that is to be true, that that somebody mentioned that she married down, number one, right? Why didn't why didn't you cuss them out? You know what I'm saying? Because that was your decision to marry this guy, not theirs, right? Like I would I'd like don't even you know what? No words need to be exchanged, punch them in the mouth.

SPEAKER_00 53:53

If I was anywhere and someone and said I married down, and I was whether my spouse is around or not, whether they were kidding or not, I'd be like, that's not really funny, is it? Yeah, yeah, like I would call somebody out on that because you're not only insulting my spouse, you're insulting. Yeah, you're you're being insulting my family. And like, yeah, that is crazy that you don't shut shut that shit down immediately. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 54:19

Immediately and then and then you force him to come. Yeah, he feels that way.

SPEAKER_00 54:26

What?

SPEAKER_05 54:28

What I'm dead.

SPEAKER_04 54:31

What do you mean? You've bit you're told that, and then you're like, yeah, I really need you to come to these to these gatherings.

SPEAKER_02 54:40

No, no. So my my friend thinks that I'm married down. Can you show up to these events so we can all laugh at you? That's putting me through med school. Yeah, thanks for putting me through med school, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 54:52

No shit. Yeah, no shit. Because that that's that's actually crazy. That's actually crazy.

SPEAKER_02 54:57

I'm glad you know your big words and you laugh about your students that misplace culture on the fucking dishplate. Go fuck yourself. You might be a piece of shit, but you're not gonna be able to do that. Make me so angry because it's like, good for you for being able to study and be smart, but you're still a shit human being. Still a shit human being. Yeah, like because that is that is absolutely like that that's somebody spilled the empathy when they were filling your archetype up.

SPEAKER_04 55:22

Yeah, for sure. They said empathy, oops, I guess you get no.

SPEAKER_02 55:26

Oh yeah. No, like any more empathy, God. Yeah, because we just ran out, dog.

SPEAKER_04 55:34

That is that is absolutely insane. That's asinine. And I, you know, that is a discussion to be had between those two because that is something that I would have to, uh, you know, me being me, if I'm that husband, I'm like, so like, how do you feel about me? You know what I'm saying? Like, if if you literally didn't stick up for me at that point in time, I'm not in the room, right? Like, I'm not in the room when they said when they tell you that, and you don't even have the the decency as my spouse to be like, maybe don't say that because you're talking about you know, me and my family. Like, don't do that. Right. If you're not even like, if you don't have the backbone enough to do that, I would be rethinking some things and being like, Do you even like me? You know what I mean? What are we even doing? Yeah, what are we even doing here? Like, do you even like me?

SPEAKER_00 56:19

Because what that's not a circle I want to be in. Yeah, it's not a circle I would want to be in. Hell no, hell no. And it's certainly not a circle I would want to subject my spouse to.

SPEAKER_04 56:30

Right. Yeah. Right. Especially if they're already thinking uh you married down. So every time he comes around, they're just thinking, oh god, look at this. Look at this poor yeah, look at this poor schmuck. Look at this schmuck talking about anime. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 56:43

What's up, Chris? Dude, if I just realized if if I was in this scenario, you know what I would actually do? I would become the most annoying person at that point. Oh, insufferable. Insufferable. Insufferable. I would no longer pretend to try to get to try to uh uh blend into the conversation. Oh my god, I would just flip the script. They'd be talking about science shit, and I'd be like, God damn, you fucking nerds. You ever get outside?

SPEAKER_06 57:14

You ever get outside? You ever go touch grass?

SPEAKER_04 57:16

Like, what the fuck, bro?

SPEAKER_02 57:17

You have a life? Or or I would relate it to some anime. I'd be like, oh, that sounds like when Goku.

SPEAKER_04 57:23

Hey, y'all ever watch Dr. Stone? That's actually crazy. Because he was a genius, just like you guys are, right? And and here's the thing, here's the crazy thing.

SPEAKER_08 57:32

What do what do boobs look like? Have you ever seen a boob?

SPEAKER_04 57:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That that would uh that's that's absolutely fucking crazy if that if that is the case. Which I mean, they put it out there on the internet. I gotta assume that's that's what happened, but definitely not the asshole. He's definitely not the asshole. Because what the fuck? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 57:50

I'm like sad for him. Yeah, should become the asshole. This is gonna be more than an asshole. Villain origin story.

SPEAKER_03 58:00

He's about to turn into the Joker, dude. I'd be okay with it.

SPEAKER_04 58:04

I'd be okay with it. Valid crash out. Valid fucking crash out. So you let us know what you what you feel, listeners, how you feel about excuse me, about that whole scenario. How would you feel if your spouse didn't back you up in in that situation? Would you be kind of would you be kind of pissed about that? Would you feel some kind of way? You know what I mean? She would know. Oh, she'd definitely know. Oh my god, she wouldn't. I would become ocean water.

SPEAKER_00 58:33

Yeah. It honestly was. It honestly was.

SPEAKER_03 58:40

I was hoping to be happier. I'm actually more mad.

SPEAKER_04 58:43

Yeah, because it's like they blew it open. Yeah, because you're like, am I the asshole? And you're like, well, you should have been, right? Like that's perfect time to be an asshole. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 58:57

You should have caused a scene. Yeah. You should have caused a scene.

SPEAKER_05 59:00

Every time you went out, every time, every time you went out with with her whole group for cause a scene. Yeah, cause a scene. Everybody's regretting everything. Ignorant.

SPEAKER_02 59:10

Ignant. Ignant. Hey, you know what? Ignant. This is just an opportunity for him to grow into the asshole we want to do.

SPEAKER_04 59:18

Into the asshole he needs to be. The asshole, the asshole his family deserves. That's exactly what's that's what that's what he needs. So let us know if I'm what a cop.

SPEAKER_05 59:29

Yeah, right. I don't need that for him. I mean, here's the thing though.

SPEAKER_04 59:34

What what what's up? What's up, Templeton?

SPEAKER_08 59:36

What are you doing?

SPEAKER_04 59:37

What am I doing?

SPEAKER_08 59:39

Yeah. I just saw like a lot of like rapid movement. Yeah, that. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_04 59:45

Give him head. So anyway, anyway.

SPEAKER_05 59:51

Give him a head ramp, man. Not during Pride Month, anyw! Pride month Allied.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:00

Ah, Allied forces. Allied forces, I swear to God. Um no, but just fire off in the comments. Let us know what you think, how you feel about the whole situation. Is he the asshole or is he not the asshole? For us, not the asshole. Definitely not the asshole. Um, but before we get into something, I do have a question for y'all.

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SPEAKER_02 1:02:32

Literally, go piss in the wind.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:34

Go piss in the wind. I have got to circle back to the tie-in because I really have to give kudos to that. Because, like, we do Reddit Roulette live, and he's just doing this off off-rip.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:51

I gotta clock it. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta go.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:54

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SPEAKER_05 1:02:56

That's it.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:56

That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:58

He just be saying shit. That's right. This shit ain't even written down. It just comes out. My brain moves fast. You know what I'm saying? And with the help of Magic Mine, right? And get me in that zone and get me in the flow state to where I can connect all the story and the dots. Anyway, we have stuff to talk about.

Fast Food Burgers Main Topic

SPEAKER_04 1:03:15

We have a main topic to get to. I think I know what we're talking about, but I just want to make sure everybody knows what we're talking about. What are we talking about today, guys?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:22

We're talking about, we're talking about in between two buns. Whoa.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:29

That's what I like.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:30

I don't know how to respond to meat in between two buns.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:35

I don't think I like.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:37

Hang on, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:39

Is it not?

SPEAKER_08 1:03:39

I think it's a joke, but it's not a joke. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:50

Yes, Templeton. You said no no no no no no no no no no no no no. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, that's my bitch. So what are we talking about? We're talking about meat between buns? That could that could be a plethora of things.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:06

You know what I mean? Are you feeling it, Mr.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:12

Craig?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:12

Are you feeling it now, Mr. Craig?

SPEAKER_08 1:04:17

No, this is Patrick.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:20

I'm sorry. I think we're talking about fast food burgers. That's what we're talking about. If you if y'all were curious, meet between buns. So Grizz is not really wrong. It is meet between buns, but you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:34

Sometimes it's cheese. Sometimes it's cheese. Everything's better with cheese.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:40

So crazy. So crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:43

Anyway, fast food burgers. First and foremost, let's let's kick us off with this question.

What Counts As Fast Food

SPEAKER_04 1:04:51

What do we consider fast food? Where do we where do we stop fast food at? Where do we draw the line of fast food?

SPEAKER_08 1:04:57

That was my question.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:58

Yeah, that's why it was a great way to open it up when you asked about that the other day, Templeton. How do we define fast food? Templeton, you will get your question answered right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:11

Um, okay, so Grizz defines fast food as a restaurant that has a drive-thru window.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:25

Like with a car. Like you drive up with a car. Not like a walk-up window or a carry-out window. Those are different. You you drive up, you order from a menu with a microphone, they have a camera, they watch you pick your nose, you ask them for your food, and then you drive around and you pay and pick it up. That's what I think fast food is. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:45

MeSeeks agrees. Oh, can't do exact like verbiage and everything. Word for word, exactly what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:57

Bar for bar for bar. Word for word. Exactly.

unknown 1:06:00

Bar for bar.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:02

Bar for bar. Templeton. Templeton. What do you think of what do you classify as a fast food restaurant? How would you define a fast food restaurant?

SPEAKER_08 1:06:12

I mean, if you pull up and say, hey, I want a cheeseburger and they give you a cheeseburger. Okay. That's fast food.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:20

Alright. So I think we're all in agreement here that if you can pull up in a vehicle to order food and be done within the next couple of minutes at the next window, that's considered fast food, yes? Because if you have to go in and order something, they have to sit you down, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You are at least. Now, don't get me wrong. There are some fast food drive-thrus that can take up to 20, 25, 30 hours sometimes to get you through the to get you through the drive-thru. Now, does that necessarily McDonald's sometimes?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:53

My local McDonald's. Let's name drop here. Ah, okay. Sometimes Wendy's can be that way too.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:59

Who's the franchise owner? Let's do that. Put them all blast! Put them all blast!

SPEAKER_04 1:07:05

But no, like like there are a lot of Wendy's that are like that as well, where the uh like you can order. I've ordered online before and waited forever and a day. Just to just for just for like a burger and a and a drink. Yes, Chris.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:19

I know this isn't the episode, but can can we take just like a brief moment to to talk about how far Wendy and Dave Thomas have fallen in the last 10 years?

SPEAKER_11 1:07:31

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:31

I mean, I remember going to Wendy's and being like, this is amazing. And now when I I haven't been to Wendy's in a long time, I'm talking probably four or five years.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:39

Like seriously. And but the last time that I went, it was just like I waited 20 or 30 minutes. The food was mediocre. And I'm like, dude, I I could have gone to the grocery store and bought shit and made something better for like the time and money that I spent. Agreed.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:57

I would say that that part of it is because Dave Thomas passed away like several years ago. And he did have like this like commitment to quality and standards and stuff like that. And once he passed away, like who are they gonna hold that?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:15

Yeah, nobody really, nobody really is held accountable for the standard that was set by uh the founder of Wendy's. So but his daughter did his daughter not take over, or am I wrong?

SPEAKER_08 1:08:28

His his children did, but they don't fucking care.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:31

And what do we hate? Female what?

SPEAKER_08 1:08:34

Protagonists.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:38

So imagine, imagine how begrudgingly some of these men who'd been following this white man uh uh for all these years is suddenly following a female, they fucking hate it. Wrap around, wrap around.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:55

That is that is that is actually what I was looking for. Yeah, yeah, not the reach around I wanted. But no, like I walked right into that. Fuck me, right? Wait, wait, hang on.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:06

For any jokes we just told that might offend somebody. Um, no, the Miss Meese can't does kind of have a point. Like, is it possible that it went downhill because they're like, ugh, what does she know? You know what I'm saying? Like, could it could it have been something like that and it's not Dave it's not Dave Thomas anymore? Like, it's just it's just they're like, nah, whatever. Quality goes out the window because our our founder died, and and now we don't give a shit what they're now. Could it also be because the kids don't give a shit, to Templeton's point. Maybe may I don't know how many kids he had and and how many of them are involved in Wendy's anymore. But is it possible that the kids are just like, I don't I didn't want what my dad wanted, so now here we are. But at that point, if you don't give a shit, sell it, right? Like sell it to somebody that will care for it, right? Like, or give someone the reins. Right. That has the same passion about it that their father did. There's no telling. I'm not there, I know I can't ask them. I don't think any time in my lifetime I'm gonna be talking to them ever.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:15

Maybe you never know. This is your moment. Let's listen. Eyes in the camera right now. Hey, if you're not Wendy if you're listening, we want you on this show to talk to us about how you feel about the the Wendy's legacy.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:34

Do you want to carry it on? Let us know. In the comments on the show, talk to us.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:39

Email, call me.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:40

Anyway, we could have done it better myself. Actually, I would have fumbled that. I would have fumbled that like so hard.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:53

And wendy social media has potential, by the way. They do.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:57

They do, yes, they do. I would love this. I love Wendy social media.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:02

Whoever is behind that, yeah, whoever runs that needs to run a store.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:06

Yes, give them the world, give them anything they ask for. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:13

And we know, let's be honest, we know that whoever's running that social media account, not a guy.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:18

Oh, probably not. Probably not.

unknown 1:11:21

Probably not.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:25

People found out they hate it. Yeah, they would. Yeah, here's the funny. Yeah, I was gonna say, the funny part is they would find out and be like, oh my god, now we gotta unfollow the Wendy's fucking page.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:35

It wasn't even that funny. It wasn't even funny.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:39

You know, they'll say, I bet a man, I bet a man writes all her jokes for her. Like, that's so clock it.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:46

Clock it, clock it. Every female comedian that ever exists.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:53

Damn it. Anyway, we're talking about burgers, right? That is how we get how we get so far off track. So, burgers. Does anybody have like a burger from a fast food joint that they really appreciate?

Five Guys Price Fight

SPEAKER_04 1:12:06

Like, because here's the thing. I think what what stemmed this whole entire conversation, Yeti decided to have the fucking audacity. And I don't know where I don't know where he got it from, but he said, he said, five guys is overpriced trash. And I said, I beg your finest fucking pardon. Did you just call it? I was called that he's not here today. Yeah, I was like, did you just call five guys trash? I wouldn't say trash. I can agree that it's a little pricey. I think they can come down on their prices a little bit, but trash? I think that's a stretch. What do we think about five guys?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:42

Love five guys with Yeti.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:45

What?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:46

Team Yeti.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:48

You crazy motherfucker. There's no way.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:50

Team Yeti.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:51

There's no way. I mean, I haven't had five guys in a while, but it is pricey.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:55

Okay, here's where it is. I could pay just as much for a better burger somewhere else. Like a way better burger. It's just crazy slap. Like where? It's crazy slap to me. And so like if I equate that anywhere else, I could get a better quality burger. I could get a more enjoyable experience. Like I could get something way better for that same price.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:23

Where though? I I can't. I can't. Because I feel like Five Guys has like that backyard burger taste. Like you go to somebody's cookout and they they just they got they got the they got the patties going on the grill. They get you, they get you right, and then you can top it with whatever the fuck you feel like. And there is some sort of hack where you can get as much bacon on that burger as you want and not even pay a cent for it. So you know what?

SPEAKER_08 1:13:49

Honestly, what I'm thinking is. Culver's is or Yeti or Yeti, but I just where I think Culver's.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:00

I'm gonna answer your question right now. But like for me, Culver's has a better difference between Culver's and Five Guys, Culver's has a better product. Some probably similarly priced, better product. And that's why I agree with Yeti. This isn't the hottest thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:18

I do like their fry bag though. Like you order a fry, you can't.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:21

Yeti also says that you get a fry for everyone. Yeti also says that um cane has the best dishes.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:31

And that's that's what that's where I that's where I gotta consider the source.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:34

Well, here's the thing I can agree. Two things I could agree with one take that somebody has, and nothing else for them. So that applies. And we're not gonna go through that chicken conversation.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:46

Yeah, that was we we already, yeah, we already yeah, we already had that. Yeah, we'll see.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:51

That was a really funny one because yeah, we had that, we had that conversation already.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:54

But I don't know. I I I I like the taste of five guys, I love their flavor. Five guys, and for him to say that it's flavorless is I don't know. That's wild to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:04

Five guys, you know what? Let's put it this way maybe Yeti was having a bad day, and he pulled up to the five guys, and maybe the the light was out on the sign and it said like five guys, and he was like, What the fuck does that mean? So he's already he gets inside and he orders his burger, and they're like, that'll be 2545. And he's like, for a burger and bro? You wanna say, No, but I can't.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:37

Maybe it's possible that he's just saying he likes the taste of five guys in his mouth.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:43

That's crazy. Well, it's actually crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:46

I don't know because he's I get the flavorless conversation though. I get the flavorless take because to me, five guys is like super greasy, and like sometimes that's all you taste when you bite into one of their burgers. And so, like I said, again, this is a whole different take. I I don't think about five guys, honestly. Like, as an option, I don't really think about it. Okay. But like I go to I and I liken it to Culver's because they're about the same, like price point, like kind of elevated. You could sit down in their restaurant and like be okay with sitting down in their restaurants, right? Like, kind of similarly priced. I think culver's burgers have are just like fresher, have better ingredients. Like, I have it, it's a better flavor experience than just a stack of grease.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:32

Gotta be honest, I've I've never had culverse. There's not one close to me, so I've never had the food ever.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:40

There might there might be one. You just gotta look. What's up, Grizz?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:44

Is uh Culver's technically a Smash Burger?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:48

Um butter burgers, but they're like a Smash Burger concept, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:56

And I think I do love a Smash Burger, too. I love a good Smash, yeah. I love a good Smash Burger. Like even at Smash Burger, like just at Smash Burger, they've got oh I forgot. So just just over clear, just over clear, like I would take Smash Burger over five guys. Yes. I would, I would, I would take Smash Burger over five.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:13

I agree. They but I don't think they have drive-throughs, so I don't think they count in this.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:17

But it is really quick, though. It is quick.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:20

It's pretty quick is yeah, yeah, it's like a fast casual, is what they do.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:26

Okay, that is yeah, that is a category. I think you would think that blends though.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:32

Yeah, you would think casual and fast food.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:38

Ooh, valid. They might we might not even be in the right category.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:41

Because technically, fast casuals.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:44

I think fast casual counts.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:45

Okay. I think so. I don't think it's fast food because they have to make your burger like according to your specifications before they give it to you. They do make it.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:53

So does Sipole.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:55

It's not already done.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:57

True.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:57

But so does Chipotle, and I would consider Chipotle fast food.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:01

Yeah, and and and to be and to be fair, if we're if we're if we're gonna go down that route, I mean McDonald just does have like they're pre-made essentially, but they're not they gotta make it. They're made to order.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:15

So Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're pre-made, but they're they're they're made day of. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:20

So so like so like the the from I don't know if I don't know if they've changed anything, but ever since I from when I worked there, like you do you do your buffer, and then as orders come in, you make them as they come in, right? So that would be that's kind of the idea behind fast food.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:34

That's why I'm saying, is it would five guys so five guys, and I think we're missing the concept of the server, right? Right. So like if you walk up to a counter, you order the food, and you can go sit down in the restaurant, like that still counts, in my opinion, as fast food.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:50

Yeah, because yeah, Culver's has that option that, yeah, they have a counter, you can go like like like Miss Me Seek's product. You can go in, you can sit down. Everybody, like like McDonald's has the same thing, Taco Bell has the same thing, uh uh uh Burger King has the same thing. So the the only difference is I've never seen a five guys with a drive-thru. Like you always have to go in.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:12

They're always in like a strip mall. Have you noticed that? Yes, I I don't think I've ever seen a standalone their own building.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:19

That's like the whole fast casual concept. That's like what I'm saying. So it's like the fast casual concept is to go up pre-pay and then get your food. Is like that's the whole premise of that category, and they're not necessarily a drive-thru, they're the hybrid of a sit-down experience.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:38

No, that's and that's which I think does count as a fast food, right? Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, I would say I think so.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:45

Because I can just as easily grab and go.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:47

Right, right. As opposed to like if you go to like B dubs, because I know Templeton mentioned that B dubs has good burgers, which they probably do. I I don't think I have I've had a B dub burger in a long time, but you do it, you know, amazing, just good, right? But they they do you do sit down, you do you can order off a menu, but you can also do the same thing at the front counter, but it takes like 20-30 minutes for them to cook that burger because they do ask you different, you know, how do you want your burger cooked? You're not asked that at a fast food restaurant. Like McDonald's do not ask you how do you yeah, you don't get that option. So is that where the defining line is? Can we say that's where the defining line is? Because five guys doesn't ask you that, culvers doesn't ask you that.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:26

So we can kind of like category. I think it's like drive-thru fast food or fast casual.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:33

Well, what what makes fast food fast food, I guess?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:37

The the amount of time you get it.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:39

Drive-thru fast food. Yeah, like your traditional drive-thru fast food, the buildings I have a drive-thru, yeah, and then the category of fast casual, pre-paying for your food.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:50

Yeah, because even if you go to five guys, it shouldn't take you 20 minutes to get your burger. Like it should it shouldn't. Can't can't sure, but I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:00

This is a specific category. This is objective in the restaurant industry. Objective specific category. If you pre-pay for your food, that is fast casual. If it does not have a drive-thru and it is a building, you think about five guys, you think about Smash Burger, those types, those concepts, Chipotle is a fast is a fast casual. Mo's uh is a fast casual, right? Because you prepay for your food and you have the option to sit down, but you have the option to take out, and that is the category. And I think those are the two categories we are talking about.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:40

Penn station is similar.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:42

Sit down and be served. That is a restaurant that is not fast food or fast casual.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:48

Okay, okay. Look at look at us just I agree.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:51

That is like restaurant industry speak. Like that is officially how they categorize restaurant concepts.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:58

Look at us getting to the bottom of things. We're so we're so awesome, aren't we?

SPEAKER_08 1:22:02

So smart people saying smart things.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:05

Yeah, so since we've since we've made that, you know, fact like we've defined what fast food is. Does anybody have a burger that is like top tier to them? That is like godlike burger from a fast food chain.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:19

Like a type of burger or a type of burger place.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:22

Just your favorite burger place. Like, do you have do you have a place that has like god-tier burgers in your eyes?

God Tier Burger Picks

SPEAKER_00 1:22:29

If I want a good nostalgic experience, I want a Burger King Whopper.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:36

Ooh. Brother.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:39

It depends on what I'm craving, but like most of the time, if I get a burger and I'm not a big burger girl, but if I'm like, oh man, I really want a burger and I want to feel good and like comforted by it, it's gonna be a good old Burger King Whopper.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:53

And what about a Burger King Whopper?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:57

It just feels like home. It feels like it was cooked in the back. It's the the backyard. It is the the charred broiled concept, and nobody else in the market has it. You're right.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:10

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:11

And it really like brings me also back to like the 90s for some reason. I feel like I had a lot of Burger King whoppers in the 90s. I feel like we did. Yeah, you're not like you used to have to be like 90s Burger King is goaded.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:28

Right. I mean, 90s fast food was goaded when you think about it. All the toys, like the play place, like all that shit, dude. Like McDonald's.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:39

Now, yes, then they took it away and our buildings got serious. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:45

Yeah, like no more colorful roofs for you. Sorry, Brad.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:49

We grew up, bitch.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:51

You gotta go to work.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:53

We grew up sorry, our food has to be fresher, so we can't have all these nice things.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:59

We really gotta this is their way of atoning for all the health issues they've given all of us millennials. They said, sorry for giving you such shitty health. Here's hope. Hope this makes up for it. Like, oh, thanks, guys. Yeah, no. They're still not sorry. They're not sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:16

They're actually upset that the scientists told them to stop.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:19

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They said, damn it, they're telling all of our secrets. Now we gotta make healthy food. What the fuck? Damn it, Jim. Fucking fucking science. So Burger King Whopper, though, I agree. Have have you tried um you have tried it since they've done the up upgrades to their burgers? Like the the f the different kind of bun, the creamier mayo, the the patties taste a little different. Like it is a different from Burger King. I would, because I remember like like what the first time they met, they said something about it. I was like, I have to stop by Burger King and try one of their whoppers now because what? And it was such an experience. I was like, oh my god. I said, I see you, Burger King. I see you, Burger King. Because you know what happened with with what brought I think what brought it about was when the McDonald's CEO, their uh big Arch Burger, and he did he did that little baby bitch bite, and like everybody dogpiled on this guy, and Burger King was like, you know what? Fuck this. We're gonna make we're gonna show the CEO how we do it because we got better ingredients. My my my food's better, my shoes are better, my car is better.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:25

He said, I hate the way you talk.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:30

I hate the way that you dress, you clown. That's exactly what he said to McDonald's.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:38

So, but no, I do agree that uh that a good whopper is fabulous. I might get one today after the show. Not the I'm in my mind right now, like, where's the nearest fucking Burger King? Now I kind of want a Whopper. Grizz, you got a uh you got a fast food? I do.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:02

I do, I do it's goaded. So can does it have to be a national brand or can I do a local brand? Whatever you want, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:09

Whatever you want.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:11

So here in Seattle, we have a restaurant, uh, a burger place called Dick's Burgers. And they do like shakes and fries.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:19

They give you the meat in multiple ways. They give you the meats.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:23

Wait, hey, no, wait, wait, wait. For the jump between the bars that's what this was meaning.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:33

Okay, Dick.

unknown 1:26:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:37

During Pride Month, let's go.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:40

I'm locked in.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:42

Um, yeah, so I I would say that that's my favorite place to get a burger, like here in Seattle.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:50

For a few reasons. It okay. Let me back up a second because if there's anybody listening and they've have had this burger place and they're like, oh, that burger is not that good. There's all these other places. We're talking about fast food burgers, and the one of the reasons why I like this place is it's extremely affordable. Like they have they have like the most expensive burger on the menu is sub six dollars. It's a double, it's a it's a uh it's called a Dix Deluxe. It has two patties, a pickle relish, and mayo, and uh it's like $5.79. And then they have cheeseburger, hamburger, and all this other shit. But like I'm sucking.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:36

Okay, so just so we're clear, Chris. Like, it sounds awesome. The pricing is great. It sounds like it could be a fun experience. The problem is, I think I'm too immature for that register.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:48

Cause you just came out of nowhere and said the dicks deluxe. I'm like, ooh, dicks deluxe in the double D. Let's go. Hey.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:00

Wait till you hold up. It gets even better. The next tier down, the one that it's basically a deluxe, but one patty, everything, all of the ingredients are the same except for it's a single patty instead of double patty. That's called the dick special.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:14

Stop it! Too immature for this restaurant. I'm too immature for this restaurant. I couldn't order without giggling. That's my problem. When you come to visit, I'll take you there. No, seriously, I'm we'll go get some dicks.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:33

Yes! Perfect. Perfect.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:39

I want some meat from dicks.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:42

I'm going to tell everybody that's specifically what I'm going out to Seattle for.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:46

Because yeah, you're going out to Seattle for dicks, and you want it, you want, you can't wait to experience dicks in your mouth.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:53

I'm only going out there for dicks. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:57

But like, who are you gonna go visit? Uh, my homie Grizz, we're gonna go get some dicks. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:05

Grizz and I are gonna go get some dicks. What? Hold on.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:09

Timeout rewind. What do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:11

Explain yourself.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:13

Nope, no explanation. No explanation needed. If you know, you know. So if you know, you know. Obviously, you don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:20

It's I okay. Here it is. I think they're good. I think it's a good burger. I think they do a good job. But it's very much that like old school burger joint, you know. Like what like if if anyone's seen like the McDonald's movie, The Founder, how McDonald's originally was before it became what we know it is today. Yeah, where you walk up and they have like they're just pre-making burgers because they're anticipating the rush. And it's just a window counter. You walk up, there's no seating, you kind of like stand there and eat under a canopy. Like, that's what this place is. That's pretty dope. And I think that's why I like it so much, because it does feel like not nostalgic for me, because I wasn't alive during that era. Yeah, yeah. But it's like it feels like I'm participating in a part of history, which is the American cheeseburger, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:09

That's fair. I do I think again, I I feel like that's a good experience. And typically the the experience at the restaurant or fast food restaurant wherever you're going to kind of goes hand in hand, right, with with what you're eating, because it kind of elevates all of that. Because you're like, not only is the food good, but the experience was good because it felt you know, it was nostalgia-filled, it was whatever the case may be. And right, I think I think that does help in the fast food and restaurant business in the industry. So But Tembleton, are you there? Can you hear me?

unknown 1:30:39

Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:40

You sound really far away. Are you in the next room? Are you are you in the bathroom? Are you peeing?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:45

He had to go get some dicks.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:46

He had to get some dicks. I'll be right back.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:48

I need dicks in my mouth.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:51

Dick stelux. That's all I've been thinking about.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:53

Dick special.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:55

In my silence, it's like a banner that just says dick deluxe, dick deluxe, dick deluxe. It's like a scroll right now. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:02

Dick deluxe.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:03

Like the those those uh those signs in New York City. Yep.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:08

Yep.

unknown 1:31:09

It's just a scroll.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:10

Like the markets illustrate the the um the sports center thing along the bottom when you're watching like football and shit. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:17

Honestly, here's the thing. There's so many applications to this. I'm about to, I hope Dix has a social media because I am about to just like also troll the men in my life and be like, God, I am just really craving a Dix Deluxe. And I can't wait for them to fucking slobber about it. And I'm gonna send them the link and be like, if you never had this, the next time you're in Seattle, you should try this. It's so good.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:42

Damn you, Pavlov. You're gonna have them salivating. You're gonna have them salivating.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:48

Salivating Pope. Damn you, Pavlov.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:51

Uh Templeton, are you are you there? Are you done in the bathroom? Yes. Alright, uh, so do you have a fast food burger that you deem god tier and want everyone to try it?

SPEAKER_08 1:32:06

Baconator.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:09

Is that the restaurant?

SPEAKER_08 1:32:12

Wendy's.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:14

Okay, ah, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. The Wendy's Baconator, you think is goaded. Okay, that's fair. What about the baconator? Do you makes you believe that it is God to your burger?

SPEAKER_02 1:32:26

Baconator.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:27

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:28

Valid.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:29

Honestly, valid.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:31

Yeah, that's that's really all you need. But is that is that it just the bacon?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:36

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:37

So like condiment girly and the sauce on that motherfucker slaps.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:43

And here's the crazy part. It's literally just ketchup and mayo. It's literally.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:47

It doesn't matter. It does not matter the blending of it. It's like the perfect balance, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:53

Like they add any seasoning to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:55

Half to it has some it's a proprietary blend of ketchup and mayo. I don't give a shit what you think. That's what I think.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:04

Just so just so we're clear. Yeah, just so we're clear, I love any version of a baconator because Burger King has theirs, which is the big bacon king. And oh my god. Like it is oh, just anything with a lot of bacon is top tier. It's so unhealthy. I probably shouldn't be doing that anymore. But who cares?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:25

Well, I mean, like how many times you have it, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:28

Not often, not often, honestly, anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:30

That's where I think it's okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:31

Yeah. Miss Mees.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:34

After this, I'm so intrigued. Because after this, we can go to Burger King, you can get a Whopper, I can get a bacon, whatever. The big king. And then we split it in half. I'm good with that.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:45

I'm good with that. Because that big bacon king. Oh, I love that big bacon king. It is so fucking good.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:51

I think that that's my love language is getting food and splitting it with people. Isn't it? It is a love language, isn't it? You go to a restaurant and like I order a dish, you would order a dish, and then split. We just like eat each other's foods together. Yeah, like I love that. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:12

But so far, there's the best thing is we have all got to go to like a food festival together. That's all. Yeah, that's always our approach. Is what we like one person buys one thing and we're all trying it. Like that's the food festival approach.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:29

Seattle does a food thing too. I know Cincinnati does a food festival.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:34

Will dicks be there? Will there be will there be dicks?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:37

You know what? There's always dicks. There's always dicks. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:42

We can also fly and meet up in another city.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:48

It's our playground.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:50

I'm for it. What are we talking about? We can go anywhere. Yeah. We already did it with Atlanta. We could do it elsewhere. Brothers.

SPEAKER_09 1:34:59

That's the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:03

We do a thing. We record a podcast. We write it off. We're going to do it. I like it. I like it.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:08

I love this idea. Are we really discussing this? Okay, anyway. So far there have been. No, yeah, burgers. Back to burgers. Back to burgers. So far we have had so far we have had solid options for burgers. I would say the burger that is the place that has a has a God tier burger for me would be Jack in the Box. And no, oh yeah. Now hear me out. Hear me out. Because they have they have added new burgers to their to their menu recently. I don't know the last time you've been to Jack in the Box, but they have a flock, I can't remember what it's called. It's like a big jack or something like that. I don't know. But they have a different kind of bun. It's not like on like sourdough or anything. It's a it's like it's a massive patty. So if you can just kind of imagine what they use for the uh Archburger at McDonald's, that's what they that's what they use at Jack in the Box now. And uh on these new burgers. And they have a jack sauce that is top tier. Right? And our me and me, Yeti, and our buddy Pat. Where do we go? Oh shit. I think it might have been the to the Atlanta when we when we did the Atlanta trip and we kind of like stopped by Jack in the Box on the way. And I had to teach him how to eat a burger because he wasn't it was it was the funniest shit you would ever see because he got a um it was a similar burger to what I had, but it was like this garlic something or another. Because he like he likes to taste the garlic, right? And the way he was eating the burger, he was eating it like upside down in a way. And he was like, I don't taste any garlic. He's like, I don't understand how they make a garlic burger and there's no garlic. And I was like, Where's your garlic sauce at? He's like, it's on the bottom. Okay, so all I need you to do is flip your burger around. Right? And then eat it there. Eat it that way. And he was like, like, that's really gonna make a fucking difference, right? He bit into that thing and he said, This is now suddenly my favorite burger. He's like, How did that happen? I was like, There's a science, there's a food science to how to make a burger. Most people put all their condiments on top. Burger King, McDonald's. So when you bite into your burger, you get meat and then the cheese and then the condiments, right? Like, like the toppings and all that kind of stuff. So it has a different flavor as opposed to like, say, Culver's, who puts all their condiments and sauces on the bottom below the patty. So you get bread and then the condiments, toppings, and then meat and cheese, right? So the it it's a different kind of flavor when you when you when you layer it that way.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:44

Are you learning this just now, Miss Misics? And here's the thing. I just said before I'm a condiment girly, I am a condiment fucking slut. I love condiments. I have like my whole refrigerator door is every condiment you can ever imagine. So like imagine me biting into a burger and just gonna, I'm there for the condiments anyway.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:07

Yep, I get it.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:08

It's just a conduit. The burger, the chicken pumpkin. It's a vehicle. It's a vehicle. It's just a conduit. That's all it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:14

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:15

That's a dream. That's fascinating. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:17

So when I so when I explained that to him, he said, get the fuck out of here. I said, Yeah, there's a science to how they make a sandwich because it's literally, if you layer it differently, how you layer it is how you how it's going to taste to you because your taste buds are hitting things first, right? So the way things hit your taste buds at different times is gonna give you that certain flavor. So when he flipped it over, and the first flavor that he tasted was the garlic and then the meat, and then the garlic hit the meat and the cheese. He said, Oh my god, this tastes so different. I was like, doesn't it? I was like, it's amazing, right? So just keep that in mind when you order your burger. If you prefer to have the condiments first, you gotta have to tie, you're gonna have to eat your burger kind of upside down, which is okay. You can eat your burger however the fuck you want to. I don't, I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:01

I hate the fact that I've been living in front of like in imaginary. She's gonna ever so we just assume that was like the top. No, we just assumed it. That's imaginary. It's imaginary. It is, it honestly is.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:15

There is no top to a sandwich, there really is no top. Like, like you would assume, like the bun, the dome part is like that's the top of the burger. I mean, technically, yes, it's it's where it's what tops the burger, but you can eat it however you want to. Nothing's stopping you from flipping the purpose.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:32

No constraints, zero constraints, just air and opportunity, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:37

I think it when I realize there's little moments that I can exercise my free will better.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was it was it was the greatest moment I ever I ever had in my life. And he was like, Okay, so now that I've got the whole taste of the burger, he's like, This is my favorite burger. He said, This is easily my favorite. I was like, Yeah, it's it's a good burger now, right? So keep that in mind, those of you listening. Ah, you might have learned something today. Burger science! Sandwich science, really, any sandwich that you make, depending on how you layer it. If you want, if you're a big peanut butter and jelly fan, you like the taste of peanut butter first, it'll taste different depending on how you eat it. If you get the peanut butter and jelly first, you know what I'm saying? Like peanut butter first and jelly, it'll taste different if you do sweet and then salty. So just keep that in mind. Keep that in mind. Think about it, think about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:22

Also, I wanna I wanna throw this idea out there for us to chew on and let it marinate since we're talking about food when we use food references. Let's go. Um, we should do an episode in the future about sandwiches.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:35

Not just burgers, but just like sandwich, which is which is in the sand, yeah. Yeah, what kind of magic? Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:42

I can go on forever about sandwiches. I actually love sandwiches.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:48

No, don't bleed. That was great.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:51

Yeah, because like we can finish each other's sandwiches. I love that gumball reference. We're finishing each other's sandwiches.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:08

That's good.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:09

I fucking love gumball.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:12

Sorry. But yes, Chris.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:14

Wait, where's Gumball from?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:15

Uh Cartoon. Oh, the The Amazing World of Gumball.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:23

No, for Cartoon. Oh yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so um, I I like that idea. Just have a whole sandwich debate about like just sandwiches. Like, what sandwiches are really because like there's cold cuts, right? There's your there's your cold sandwiches, there's your hot sandwiches, especially if you like to go to sort of.

SPEAKER_11 1:41:45

Which one do you prefer?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:46

Because I'll tell you what, like a good Dagwood, oh my god, a good Dagwood where you just throw whatever the fuck you want on it is oh! I used to get those all the time at at Penn Station. Anyway, burgers. Let's circle back to burgers. Let's circle back to burgers.

Overrated Burgers And In N Out

SPEAKER_04 1:42:03

Um, are there any burgers that maybe like um Yeti brought up the other day? Are there any burgers you think might be overpriced? Slop.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:11

Huh. In and out. Anything from in and out. Oh shit, are you serious? In and out, in and out, she had that in the chamber room.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:19

She's in and out. I didn't know you were a drag racer. Holy shit, dude.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:29

She finished the race before it even started, bro. Like, God damn.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:33

I was hoping we were gonna be on this topic absolutely. I was about to ask if we can finish the channel. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:40

And you said it, and I was like, in the chamber, gone, pin and fastest hands in the West.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:48

Also, happened to piss off a whole state.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:52

A whole state.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:54

I'm from that state.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:55

Number one, I'm from that state.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:58

They take in and out so seriously. They take in and I was raised on that seriously.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:02

And the only reason, no, no, no, no. The only reason they take in and out so seriously is because of transplants. It's just like it's a tourist thing. Yeah, it's a tourist thing. When you get a regular experience with In N Out, when you are a local, your experiences are actually hit and miss. Yeah, sometimes it might slap, but like a lot of the times it's shit, it's flop.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:23

That's fair. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:23

And like overrated. Overrated. I'll stand on that.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:27

Can can I say that I actually to a level agree with Meese because the so there is a closer one now. There's one in um uh South Washington, just outside of uh Portland to I think the little town's called like Centrillia. Um, they have an in and out there. I have not been to that one yet. There is one, however, on the south side of Portland, between Portland and Eugene, uh, which is where the Oregon ducks play. Go ducks. I don't know. I'm not, I don't care. Whatever. Uh what the fuck ever.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:03

Go ducks or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:04

Anyway, whatever, whatever they say.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:06

Quack.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:07

Quacks. But uh, I was driving down to visit a friend, and I was like, I want to try in and out. And so I popped off the highway. The line was ridiculous because it's like the only one that was servicing the Pacific Northwest at the time. Yep. And I waited near an hour, it was like 30 third, like definitely over 30 minutes. It was between 30 minutes and an hour for my food. Um well, like that that included like the wait to order and then get my food. Yeah because it was just so busy. And I was like, at a certain point, I almost thought about leaving. I was like, is this even worth it? I get the food. The restaurant was packed, so I just walk out to my car and eat it in my car. And I was like, I waited all this time for this. Like, I was so mad, I was so mad. I was like, people hype this shit up, and it's it was like absolutely mid, and and then like I said that to a friend that I met that like now lives in California again, but is from California, and they were like, No, In and Out's the best. And I'm like, uh, I mean it's I like I don't think it's worth the wait. Yeah, I don't think it's worth the wait. And if here's here's my opinion on In and Out if you don't have to wait for it, it's worth it. If you have to wait an ounce of time for it, and I mean like anything longer than a general uh fast. 15 minutes, 20 minutes, yeah, then it's not fucking worth that wait. Like, I would rather not eat at all.

SPEAKER_09 1:45:41

Oh, that's fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:42

I would much rather go to the gas station, get beef jerky, a bag of chips, and a Mountain Dew, and keep plugging.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:48

That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:49

And get in and out and wait 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:52

Every grossly undercooked fast food burger I've had, like I've had some where it's a little pink, and I'm like, oh, they could have cooked this a little bit more, right? But every undercooked burger I've had has come from in and out.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:08

That is fair. That is fair. You have you have yeah, you have had a rough time with In N Out, In N Out Burgers. So testimony here.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:18

The vibes are there, like the like the restaurants are cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:21

Yeah, yeah, and here's the thing, and I again I think like you think about we just got like wahwa in our state, right? Yeah, and people are going fucking crazy over that shit. Yeah, guaranteed people who've had wawas are like, what the fuck? Like, they're just like water.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:43

Come on, Grizz, you gotta do it right for the joke.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:49

The fuck you think this is? Just got water over there.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:54

Short answer, yes. And I also think some people just like trendy things, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:01

100% in and out is one of those trendy places that's like like you said earlier, touristy. Yeah, and some people just want to keep up with the Joneses and they're like, I went to internet today, fuck off.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:15

Yeah, I I will say I've never been like super crazy over In N Out. Like, I just I don't think um I don't think I like if it was close by, I don't think I'd go out of my way for it. You know what I mean? Like I do, I would probably go every once in a blue moon just because you know, just to get some um um what do they have there? What do they do their fries again? Do they have animal fries or something? Animal style. Yeah, animal style. See, like I'd I'd be okay with that. Like that's one thing I'd go, I'd go to In N Out for, but I wouldn't go all the time. Hell no. And I wouldn't go out of my way for that burger, especially when I can go smash burger or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:48

Yeah, right. I I will say this. I did all that shit talking just to say that I will make the drive down to Citrillion to try it that in and out that's fair to give it a shot. Because I think it deserves more shots from me. Yeah, because I've only had it the one time and it wasn't a great experience, so I'm willing to give them a shot. But based on my one time going, like the food was fine, but like the the weight and the hype, like really that's why this is why I don't watch trailers because then I get I get all hooked up for shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:23

This is why I don't watch trailers. No, that that is fair. That is fair. So would you say that that is your overpriced slop right now, just because of that one bad experience?

SPEAKER_02 1:48:33

You know, I don't remember how much it was, but I think for the sake of this argument, I can yeah, I'll be in alignment with that. Yeah, okay. It'd be overpriced slop. That in and out of the room.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:42

Maybe with a little less passion. Yeah, not yeah, not as passionate as Miss VC.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:47

That is like they're gonna cut my burger every time I fucking go.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:52

That is fair. Um, Templeton! Are you there? Did you go back to the bathroom? Sounds like he's back in the bathroom. Are you pooping? No, I'm here. What's up? Oh, okay. It sounds like he's in the bathroom, though, just so we're clear. Do you have do you have a burger place that you think is overhyped, overpriced, sloppy?

SPEAKER_08 1:49:19

Yeah, let me think. Give me a second. With an inflection, like everything's a question?

SPEAKER_05 1:49:29

Is that fast food? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:36

It is overpriced a lot, but is it fast food? I don't know. I mean, cause you gotta go in, you gotta sit down, they give you a menu. All that kind of stuff. I mean, you know what?

SPEAKER_00 1:49:49

You know what, we'll considers it fast food. Yeah, we'll take it. Yeah, we'll take it.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:53

I was I was gonna say, we'll take it. We'll take it. So what about what about beat ubs? Do you think it makes it overpriced?

SPEAKER_08 1:50:01

Better burgers are fine, but I can get burger burger better burgers in other places. For sure. For a lot less money.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:11

That sounds like a good name for a restaurant, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:50:14

It does sound like a good name for a they already have. They already have Good Burger. Do they have Good Burger? So they're can't I'm pretty sure I've seen a Good Burger. Do you have Good Burger? Better Burger? That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:34

And they all are on the same street.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:38

Welcome to Good Burger. Home on the Goodger. Always on an adjacent corner. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:44

Always. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:46

Dude, can you imagine convenience?

SPEAKER_05 1:50:48

Always on the more. Always on the better corner. Can you imagine? All three are on one corner. That would be amazing.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:57

You have the Good Burger over here, but you have the better burger that's like closer to the highway exit. And then the best burger is like the most convenient. Yes. Easy on, easy. Easy on, easy on. Get it. Get the fuck out of here. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:09

Best parking lot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:51:12

That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:13

The toilets are immaculate.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:16

All the way down to the floor.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:18

Let me tell you, we're gonna have the best dolls, the best bathrooms. Because we are the best bag.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:26

For these golden burgers.

SPEAKER_09 1:51:29

The best burger on the batteries.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:32

You like carrots on your burger? We put 24 carrots. We put 24 carrots on your burger.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:37

If you think anybody will have a better burger than best burger, you are wrong. And there's nothing you can do about it. I'm sorry. If you want the best burger, you can come to the ballroom. We're gonna have the best burgers in the battery.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:51

Because that's what's happening actually right now, though. Like it's funny, but like that's what's that's what makes it funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:59

We're gonna have burgers in the ballroom. It's gonna be burgers and balls.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:07

We're inviting the first event. Hang on, wait. I'm about to piss you off, Chris. We're gonna invite Dicks over to the ballroom. We're gonna call it Dix and Balls. And we're gonna have the best burgers from Dix and Balls.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:21

That's exactly what we're gonna call it. It's gonna be beautiful.

SPEAKER_11 1:52:25

Dix drive in. Dicks drive in. The best burgers. They have a deluxe. Oh, which is personally my favorite. It's very big.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:34

It's very big. A lot of meat. A lot of meat.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:37

A lot of meat in my hands.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:41

Okay. It's so big that it looks small in my hands.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:45

It makes my hands look tiny because of the burger.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:48

God burger is the only reason my hands look tiny. No, we're done. We're done. Okay, we got it. So if I had catch up my burger. Fuck! Okay. Um if I had to say who had who has overpriced schlopp.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:13

I mean, I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:16

I would you could do the funniest thing ever right now. What's that? You could say culverts.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:24

Here's the thing though. I love culvers, so I can't say But it would be funny as fuck to be like culvers is just trash. Their butterburger, trash. Their fries, trash, their broccoli, trash. Everything about culverts, trash. Wait, hey.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:46

Freddy's is where it's at. Wait, wait, wait. For the joke.

Freddy’s Slander And Hot Dogs

SPEAKER_04 1:53:50

And thank you for reminding me that Freddy's exists, because I would probably say that is the one that is overpriced slot for me.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:56

I don't like Freddy's whatsoever.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:00

I tried. Yo, that was a drive-by dog.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:06

I forgot. That's how forgettable their burger was for me. I would I forgot. I forgot they exist.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:18

You said that, and I was actually low-key thinking about that.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:21

I was like, actually, brother, Freddy's Freddy's is I don't understand how they're still in business. I like people were singing their praises and they were like, You never have Freddy's before? No, I never had Freddy's. They're like, You should really try Freddy's. And that was before we got one here in our state. It was it was when I was working, like like an hour away. They were because we have there are Freddy's all over, all over that city. So it's like, they're like, You've never had Freddy's before? How come you never have Freddy's? Like, you should really try Freddy's. I'm like, okay, fine, I'll fucking try Freddy's. I tried Freddy's. Yeah, I was like, just to get you off my back. Like, I'll try Freddy's. So I tried Freddy's and I was like, nah, this ain't it, dog. Like, what do you mean? When I can go to steak and shake, yo.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:05

Are you fucking kidding me? Are you kidding me? I'll take steak and shake over Freddy's every single day.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:14

Every day. Steak and shake shits all over Freddy's.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:17

Fuck Freddy's. Look at this man's correct appearance.

unknown 1:55:21

Fuck Freddy's.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:26

I had Freddy's like 10 years ago for the first time down in Paducah. Down in Paducah, Kentucky, and I had it. They got hot dogs, and I like hot dogs, so I'll give them that. Any restaurant that has a hot dog has my heart. Like I love Dairy Queen. Dairy Queen! Dairy Queen.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:42

How do you feel about that Costco though?

SPEAKER_04 1:55:46

Costco hot dogs.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:48

Give me the glizzy. The glizzy. I love hot dogs. I love hot dogs so much.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:58

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:01

I'll just like no condiments. Like raw dog.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:08

You can't be raw dog and hot dogs. The glizzy queen!

SPEAKER_00 1:56:11

Glizzy queen! Some of the looks I get when I'm just raw dog and a hot dog, they're like, you're not gonna have anything. Why do I need it?

SPEAKER_04 1:56:20

No, listen, if the oh that too.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:22

I love yeah, sometimes no bun, sometimes just a bun.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:26

The hot dog is good enough. You don't need a bun. Like, like when when I worked at a hot dog factory, right? Like years and years ago, I can tell you right now, there is no better hot dog you will have than a hot dog that is fresh out of those ovens. Because Jesus Christ, we did obviously we had no condiments, no bun. You could eat them bitches straight up, and they were so fucking good. The flavors were still there. It was it was amazing. That is the best fuck. Seriously, if the hot dog is good enough, you don't need condiments, you don't need a bun. You can just straight eat that bitch. Glizzy all the way. Let's go. But yes, Freddy's fucking trash. Get him the fuck out of here. Talking about frozen custard. Are you kidding me? Who do you think you are? You're not, you're not culvers, right? Like you're not culvers. You can't, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:15

Stop pretending we left today's episode.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:23

Absolutely. Culver's culvers did it right. I love culvers. I love I love their Wisconsin cheese, their cheese curds, everything about culverts.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:31

The only thing is, it's always a wait. Let me give let me humble culverts a little bit. It's always a ridiculous wait about it. What the fuck is taking y'all so long?

SPEAKER_04 1:57:41

Uh they got to be able to do that. Exactly, Grizz. They build that burger with love, and love takes time.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:47

Love takes time.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:49

I can't believe we both have said that out loud.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:52

Y'all have harmonized this whole episode, actually.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:55

So we are exactly transcended. That's quantum entanglement.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:02

That's exactly what that is during pride.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:06

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:07

Happy Pride, baby.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:09

Happy Pride, baby! So anyway, um, I don't wanna I don't wanna get too far off on a tangent here, but yeah. Fast food burgers, there are some some really good, some not so much. Like over the years, I have really gone away from like McDonald's because like I feel like it's just like if ever I do McDonald's, it's just because it's cheap and easy, right? Like it's just get me a McDouble, call it a day. And I barely even do McDoubles anymore. Now that they brought the snack wraps back, forget their fucking burgers.

SPEAKER_09 1:58:41

That's how they got me back. Yes, that is how McDonald's got me back to bringing the snack wraps.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:46

Yes, yes. And and it's like, do they have the same flavor? Maybe not, because they're not as breaded as the old like selects that they used on the snack wraps, which had a certain, you know, they had the crunch, they had the flavor that that that you would think of, like you buy your fucking Tyson chicken strips at the at the at Walmart or something. It was almost like reminiscent of that in a tort wrapped in a tortilla. So it was like I liked that flavor. The newer the newer uh chicken strips that they have, they're not awful. They got more flavor than they I don't know. It's just anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:21

Burger joints They remind me of fingers.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:24

Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. Yeah, because they they they are thinner, like I said, they're not as they're not as breaded, so they're they're not as thick, so you know I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:32

It's just it is what it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:34

But burger joints, a good burger. A good fucking burger sometimes. As Carls Jr. used to tell me when I was growing up, if it doesn't get all over the place, it doesn't belong in your face. Okay? Oh yeah, brother.

Burger Science And Food Lore

SPEAKER_00 1:59:48

Okay, so one time I have to tell a burger story. One time I'm eating a burger, right? And this is how I was raised. I was raised, right? I was raised on like how to properly hold a burger to where it doesn't fall apart in your hands, right? And like I very much focus on the burger. And I'm eating and I'm around friends, and I kind of forget. Sometimes I forget I'm around people when I eat. Yeah, uh, and so I have like ketchup like over here, right? And I'm eating somebody who's like, yo, you're gonna catch up over here, and I'm like, mid-bite now. Look, I take my bun, I'll wipe that motherfucker off, and I just keep going. And so that's my relationship with burgers.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:32

If it's real, you know what it says to me, you know what that says to me? That says to me, dedication to the craft. You said, you know what? We're gonna wipe this burger as a napkin. Edible napkin. And then I'm gonna just eat that bitch. That's extra condiment.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:49

Edible napkin. See, I can't really do that.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:52

I know people remember me about that. I specifically know that people like I was around like three or four people, and at least two people specifically remember me, like, quote me as like, you remember that time? It's been 20 years at least.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:06

Can you imagine?

SPEAKER_02 2:01:08

Your name in their phone is Meeseeks Burger Wiper. That's it.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:12

Can you can you imagine? Can you imagine? Can you imagine people's lore accuracy of you is wiping your face with burgers? You're just you're just an animal that just wipes your face with burgers. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:24

Yes. To some people out there, that is their core memory of me. That's it. That's how they remember me. I don't hate it.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:33

No, you're not wrong.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:34

I don't hate it. Here's the thing one time there was food on my plate, and I like face went face down.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:41

Oh my god, that was the funniest shit I had ever seen. I was like, what the fuck just happened?

SPEAKER_00 2:01:48

In the back of the chicken page. Yeah, in public. I was like, what? Head straight down. Okay. And so, like, I'm sure there's people who watch that who were like, you're accuracy, Laura accurate view. And it's me. It's me. Honestly, I have been a fucking savage for food since like birth. Yeah. I was at a buffet one time. Oh, I remember. Buffet one time, got a plate, got dessert. A plate of dessert, and I was overdoing it. It was overflowing. Ice cream down my fucking hands. I a manager stopped me. A manager says, Do you need some help? I'm like, No, I got it. I obviously didn't have it. And my parents are watching sheer terror. Terror. They're watching it. They're like, please don't look for their parents. Please don't look for their parents. Please don't look for their parents.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:41

They don't want to have me. I wouldn't either. I need an adult. I am an adult.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:47

I am so feral when it comes to food. Yeah, clearly, clearly. Yeah, clearly.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:53

It's for survival. So um let us let us know in the comments. Do you have a burger joint that is God tier in your eyes? That you would drop everything and just run, not walk, run to where you need to be to get a burger, to get a good burger. I need a good burger. And do you have a place that you are just like, man, fuck this place? Because why the fuck are they even in business right now? Because they like Freddy's. You know what I'm saying? Like how how's Fred? I'm sorry. I'm sorry for the Freddy's source. Or in and out of picture. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:26

So let us know. In and out is in business, though.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:29

Yeah, no shit. But let us know how you what you what you're feeling on burgers. And honestly, Burger King after this, I'm I'm all for it. So as of right now, I think it's high time that Grizz give us a thought-provoking something or another.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:45

Something or another. Somewhere. I have it here. I had it pulled up a second ago. Uh where did it go? It was such a good one, too. I'm so salty.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:53

Son of a bitch. Like the sea, like the MS.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:57

Oh, here it is.

Typos As Digital Voice Cracks

SPEAKER_02 2:03:59

Okay. So when you're in an argument with someone online, and you make it a and you make you make a typo, do you think that that is a digital equivalent of cracking your voice when in an argument?

SPEAKER_00 2:04:20

Like a stutter.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:21

Or like that typo in, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:24

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:25

You're tripping on a word.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:27

Yeah. Yeah, because you're like heat of the moment.

unknown 2:04:31

Right.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:31

You know what the fuck I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:39

Yeah, right? Because it's like, do you address it or do you just keep pushing?

SPEAKER_00 2:04:43

No, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:44

See, here's here's the thing. Like, it depends on level of petty, right? Because if you want to be that person and be like, look at you, you're so mad, you're stumbling over your words, and you want to point out the word that they stumbled over, you absolutely can do that. But if I'm typically if I'm in an argument on the internet, the and first and foremost, the internet is not a real place, right? Like someone check on me if I can't go into a little place. Yeah, like seriously, it's not a real place. Like everybody thinks they are so much tougher than they are. So I mean, I I will overlook a lot of typos, especially if I'm serious about the conversation. Because I know what you meant to say, right? Like, I'm not gonna be that petty. Now, if I am if it's face-to-face and I'm just like like you got me to the point where I'm just like, I'm just here to piss you off, I'm gonna point out that little stumble that you fucking are.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:33

Like if I exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:37

If if you've got me to that point where I'm just like, you know what? Fuck your feelings. I'm just here to ruin your day. Yeah, I'm pointing it all out.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:45

Exactly. You know, online, like, if somebody calls me out online about like, oh, you missed types, it is a field day for me to be like, so now you're telling me you don't have the critical thinking skills to connect point A to point B.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:00

It is the easiest, it is the easiest way to insult somebody's intelligence, but I also think it's the easiest way to realize that you're dealing with the like seven in ten adults who lack fucking basic literacy skills.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:16

No, you're not wrong.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:17

So like then you realize, and then there's like the amount of fucking crackheads there are out there that also have access to the the internet, the amount of bots that like you realize what you're up against, and then you're like, yep, this is something.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:29

Yep. And that's why I'm like, I I really try not to give it the time of day and just be as positive in an argument. Be as positive as possible on the internet. Like it we can have a civilized debate that's not an issue, but when people start, you know, attacking grammar and stuff, I'm like, that's very low-hanging fruit to me. Like, there are so many other things you could point out in in a in a debate like that. Like, are they bringing facts? Are they just talking out of their ass? Are they just making shit up in their head? Like, if you can point that shit out, I feel like that's a more well-thought-out argument than saying, You forgot the apostrophe R-E in your because you're stupid. I'm like, come on, bro.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:06

Like you still critical thinking you're going to be like, I knew what they meant.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:13

You knew what they meant.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:14

Yeah, and you don't have you have a baseless argument if you're going, if you're reverting all the way back there.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:18

Yeah, it's it's low-hanging fruit in an argument to point out grammatical errors. Yeah, we like we're we're all adults, we know what they mean. Like, I don't have to, you know, it is what it is. It's just just make an actual valid argument and then I'll hear you out. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:34

So I think it also so I think it depends on the situation, actually. Because in person, yeah, and it depends on who it is too. And like if I am trying to maybe like de-escalate, because I don't like beefing with people for the most part, right? So a lot of the time, so like my mother, she loves to argue. Okay. When she argues that she trips over something, I'm giggling. I'm giggling, but I know that she's gonna end up giggling about it, right? Like it's gonna break the tension, it's gonna de-escalate a little bit, right? That's always what I'm hoping for. But I I don't

Healthcare Advocacy And Hard Lessons

SPEAKER_00 2:08:10

like to be in a position where if somebody is stuttering over me, like I'm like, this is there's no point under this argument. I don't want to do this.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:16

Oh, you wanna you wanna know one of my funnest stories, one of my greatest stories about Miss Meese was when I um I was I went into the ER up in up in Dayton because I was I I was working and my heart went crazy. That's when I found out I had AFib, right? And they I I I was like, oh, this is odd. I should probably go, like my heart was like really beating fast. I was like, let me go to the ER. And I literally, this is what I did. I walked in, I was like, hey, uh, my heart's beating kind of fast. Like, how do we what do we do about this? And she's like, Oh, well, fill out this paperwork. And she was like, just go over there, like sit in the waiting room area, fill out the paperwork. She handed me the paperwork, I turned around and started filling it out, and no sooner did I bit I didn't even get to sit down. They're like, Jeremy, they they called my name and I was like, Oh yeah, I guess. Like, I haven't finished my paperwork. They're like, Yeah, just sit down, finish it. Oh, okay, cool. Immediately hooked me up to an EKG, all that kind of shit, and they were like, Yeah, you're uh yours beating really fast, it sure is. I was like, Yeah. And obviously it was during work hours, and my my my GM was like on vacation at the time, so I'm the only one there with like 10 people to look at look after, and I'm like, So how long is this gonna take? They're like, It's your heart, you're not going anywhere. I was like, Oh, so I can't leave? They're like, no. So it's like they kept me there, they put me on some medications, and it was funny as fuck, because I was I kept telling them like what I had and all that kind of stuff, and I was like, Yeah, this is what this is what's going on. And for whatever reason, they were right, they were not writing anything down. So it's like every time a new nurse came in, it was like a brand new slate. I was like, okay, well, whatever. So I'm on the phone with Miss Meese, my sister here, and the nurse that I had, I did not know that she had a stutter. Like she she she really did. So I had my sister on speakerphone. This is where I learned that she's not the person to have on speakerphone because she just went ham. Because I was like, hey, at to at this point, we were like, hey, can we get me transferred down to you know my state where all my doctors are because they're in my network and they know what's going on and they have all my shit on record. Can we just get me out of here? And she was like, Well, there's nothing that they can do there that we can't do here. And my sister is just on the phone, like, nah, you need to tell these motherfuckers that you need to get the fuck out of there, and blah blah blah, and she's just going off, right? And the nurse is just like the the the stress of the situation really started to make her stutter really, really bad. And I was like, Oh shit. And I was like, um, yeah, you know what? We'll we'll discuss it. Gotta go by, click.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:44

And I was like, hey, it we'll we'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_00 2:10:47

Okay. I'm not just assaulting healthcare workers. I love healthcare workers. I love people who are dedicated healthcare workers, and I will say that. Unless they're in Reddit, okay, and I want to go back. I'm gonna double back to this freaking Reddit roulette. I go 10 toes down with for my family. No, that and that's fair. I go 10 toes down for my family, okay? Jay goes to the hospital. He's telling them, This, I believe, is contributed to something that is that I'm being treated for. He works an hour away. Yeah, okay. He's communicating this from from from square one, okay? This whole time he keeps telling them, like, hey, I really kind of want to be back over there because they know like you need to contact them. Like, they're the they're my treat, they're my care team, okay? And so they're just telling him, like, no, no, no. There one thing that that I can't stand in the healthcare field, and this is gonna get a little bit political, but specifically with people of color in the healthcare field is the dismissiveness, is the fact that you have a person of color telling you something that they know. For a fact is going on, and you keep dismissing them, okay? And I'm realizing this man's heart is beating like 200 beats per minute. Okay. Like it's not a little bit, it's a lot of it. Okay. And his health, the the the health condition that that happened is a long history, okay. And I'm sitting here and I'm getting frustrated because I'm like, you're not listening to the patient. Okay. Also, when I was on the phone, I was not aware. Yeah, she didn't know she was on the speaker phone. I was on the speaker phone. And I quite simply said, and it was colorful, but I said, you are the patient and you need to advocate for yourself and don't shut the fuck up until they listen to you. And I very much meant it. And we got him transferred. And me and my mama, we worked on our end to find him a bed at a hospital and confirmed that this condition was linked to the was linked to the medical condition. Like it wasn't in our heads. We got the confirmation. We didn't shut the fuck up about it. And I wouldn't, and I go 10 toes down on that every single time I feel.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:02

It's just one of my favorite stories because it's like the nurse, again, I had no idea she had a stuttering problem until the stress of that situation like really got to the point where she's just she was stuttering and stumbling. I was like, oh my god, I felt bad for her. And I was like, let me okay, bring your own speakerphone, I gotta go by.

SPEAKER_00 2:13:23

I didn't feel really bad after that. I felt awful. But it's I can imagine she probably didn't know what to do, and it was probably very fast for her. Like I I have empathy for the situation, but it doesn't take away the frustration for the situation. Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:36

And I felt bad in retrospect.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:39

Oh, yeah, that should be a learning opportunity to grow in the health in the health field because I don't know. It was listen to your patients. Yeah, it was like pulling fucking teeth. And it was it was just one of those things.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:54

Not to get too far in the deep in the weeds on it, but I too have medical history and an autoimmune disease, and I've had to deal with shitty healthcare. And at the end of the day, that system is set up to just make money. Yep. So that's why they wanted to keep you up there because if they transfer you, your money now goes to a different hospital. Yeah, yeah. And that is what pisses me off the most. Do not do not ever make it about money when it comes to life. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:25

I make noise, and you have yeah, you have so many people. I've had to tell people, especially recently. We had some health scares with our mother recently. I had to tell people like you're in the healthcare field dealing with living people, dealing with life or death. I understand this is a job that you clock in and out for, but like this isn't, I'm sorry, this isn't. I I work in a warehouse, okay? This isn't moving eggs and milk, okay? This is dealing with people's lives. And if you're willingly in that profession, I really want you to see it through that lens because it is that fucking serious. Because it is somebody's mama, it is somebody's brother.

SPEAKER_09 2:15:01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:02

And that's what I don't like. And I'll make as much noise about that as I absolutely can every single time. I'll be a pain in the ass. I had people hang up on me. I've had nurses get mad at me, and I'm like, I don't give a shit. I don't care. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:15

That's when you just you you be persistence is obviously key, especially in the healthcare uh uh industry, because as a patient, you do you do have to advocate for yourself. Sorry that we're getting off into this topic a little bit, but it is kind of important, especially, you know, with in light of a lot of things that have happened up until now, you know, people people are fed up, right? Like we literally had, you know, that whole incident with the uh uh uh United Healthcare CEO and all that kind of stuff, and you know what I mean? So it's like people get fed up, you know what I mean, and eventually somebody's gonna want to do something about it, and it may not be what you want. And that's kind of where that's kind of where it's like maybe you should start listening to people. I'm not advocating for any of that. Like that's that's a no-go for me. Like, you know what I mean? But to act like, oh my god, how did this how did we get here? I can tell you how we got here. A lot of people can tell you how we got here.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:08

So we need to deprivatize the medical industry. It needs to all be public and that all it is a conversation all in itself.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:18

So but right now we're gonna lighten it up.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:21

I I do love healthcare workers, by the way. I do want to say like this is a way bigger issue, and I'm not and I don't want to devalue their struggles and their uh and and what they have to sacrifice. Yep, because this is an industry, it is a life and death industry that is not seen as such.

SPEAKER_09 2:16:38

Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:38

And I think that's really the issue. It is not taken with the gravity of the fact that it is life and death, and you are sending people home in worse shape and to grieve their loved ones. And if they feel wronged, like it's not taken with the seriousness it really deserves. Yeah, and I understand, again, healthcare workers are uh want to be very clear on that.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:59

For sure, for sure. We we I think we all have the same sentiments.

SPEAKER_00 2:17:02

Us down here don't have anything really to do with it, and I hate to say that, but us peons working in the system are you're not wrong, affected by yeah, you're not wrong.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:12

So we'll lighten it up with some fun and games. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:17:15

Oh yeah, thank god.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:16

And I wanna I wanna ask this question.

Who Would You Date In Games

SPEAKER_04 2:17:19

This will go for everybody on the podcast. Who would you take out on a date? Now, I'm gonna pull up a list here. If I can find it, I better be able to find it. Yep, there it is. Okay, so Miss Me Seeks, if you wanna Google these guys real quick, because you probably will have no idea who they are. The question is, who would you take out on a date? And for you, I wanna know. You got your options. There are three guys. Jax from Mortal Kombat. How do you spell that?

SPEAKER_09 2:17:53

J-A-S.

SPEAKER_00 2:18:02

Okay, I got it.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:03

Okay, Kazuya from Tekken 8. Okay, help me out. K-A-Z, U Y A. She said, okay, help me out here. Throw me a bone, how do you spell that?

SPEAKER_09 2:18:19

Okay, and second word.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:21

Okay, uh what? Tekken? Oh, T-E-K-K-E-N. Tekken eight.

SPEAKER_00 2:18:28

Yep. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:30

And then the last would be Ryu, R-Y-U from Street Fighter 6.

SPEAKER_00 2:18:36

Okay. When did you R-Y-U?

SPEAKER_04 2:18:39

R-Y-U, Ryu from Street Fighter 6. Those are your three that you that you get the option to take out on a date. Who are you taking out on a date? That sounds like that's a tough decision.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:05

Choices are so good. I don't know which one.

SPEAKER_00 2:19:07

Hey, man. First of all, your cup runneth over. No, it doesn't. My cup, my cup runneth the dryeth. Oh shit! She said she said none. All of these guys look insufferable to be around.

SPEAKER_04 2:19:23

Okay, that's fair. Damn.

SPEAKER_00 2:19:25

So I love this perspective. Yeah. Uh however, for the sake of culture, probably Kazooia. Okay. Like, I want to go to experience some Asian culture. Let's go travel, babes. I got a passport. Let's go. That's fair. Okay, okay. They're all easy on the eyes. Like, they're all designed to be easy on the eyes. And like he's cool, and hopefully he has some respect. I'll tell his mom or his grandmama, and they'll put some like crazy spiritual fucking hacks on his bloodline or some shit.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:08

So, so you know what's great, Grizz? I love the fact that she has never played any of these games and has no clue about the characters. That's what I love the most about.

unknown 2:20:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:19

That's the best part.

SPEAKER_00 2:20:20

Yeah, that honestly, honestly, it is my like purely visual analytical. I'm with you.

SPEAKER_05 2:20:25

I'm with you.

SPEAKER_00 2:20:26

This is my also basically my dating projections. Is like, yes, all of my roster probably looks like this. Everything, everything probably looks like this, but everything I just skewed out, I'm like, yeah, they're all really pieces of shit in Gatlen's time. Let me select the one that gets me the biggest better.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:46

Oh my gosh, that's too funny. Okay, so Kazuya is the lucky man. Nice, nice, nice.

SPEAKER_00 2:20:52

Very lucky to have me.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:53

So, so for Grizz and Tebbleton, are you there? Tebleton? Templeton? He could have gone to the bathroom and fell in. I don't know. So Grizz, here's what here's if you don't know them, you can Google them real quick. But um these are the three options we have. Who would you take out on a date? Cami from Street Fighter VI. Okay. Sindal from Mortal Kombat.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:20

How do you spell Sindal?

SPEAKER_04 2:21:22

S-I-N-D-E-Lortal Combat. Okay. Okay. Or Nina from Tekken 8.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:36

Oh, Nina. Oh, Nina. Let me see. Cause I feel like it I feel like I know my answer. Okay. That last one made it really hard. Because I was going Cami until I saw this one.

SPEAKER_05 2:21:56

Until you see Nina.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:00

So which one?

SPEAKER_04 2:22:01

Which one? Which one you take it out of the date?

SPEAKER_02 2:22:05

Here's the thing. All three of them are gonna break my heart. Right? Every single last one of them. All three. Like, they're just you know what I mean? Like, it's just not gonna be a good fit. I get it. So I'm gonna go with like the one. She's wearing a leather jacket, dude. Like, there's mystery here. Like she probably has a motorcycle. Nina.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:26

You're going, Nina. I know you are.

SPEAKER_05 2:22:28

I know you are. I know. I know you are. Because of the mystique of Nina.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:35

Yeah, dude. No, I get that. For me, Cami. Easy. Cammy, Cami.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:40

Yeah, I was going into this with Cammy all the way. I've drawn Cami before. Right? You know, like I get a commission for somebody for Cammy.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:49

Cammy is my girl. And after playing Street Fighter 6, like when you like, because you create your own character in Street Fighter 6, and of course you get you get to uh meet all the masters, and uh most of them are like the older from the older rosters of Street Fighter, and Cammy just so happens to be one of them. So, of course, you get to know them a little bit and like their personality and all that kind of shit. And Cammy is just as awkward as I am, and that's exactly why I would take her on a date immediately, expeditiously. But you're not wrong, she would break my heart. All three of them are gonna be heartbreakers, but Cammy is the winner in my book, because goddamn. So, those of you listening, you let us know. If you don't know, Google them. Fire off in the comments. Who would you take out on a date? Those are gonna be your options. And now, really quick, we're gonna get into a fun fact so we can wrap this up.

Mango Rash Fun Fact

SPEAKER_04 2:23:47

Um, are y'all ready for a fun fact?

SPEAKER_00 2:23:49

Are you ready for this?

SPEAKER_04 2:23:54

Okay, because this might this might blow your mind. This really this truly might blow your mind.

SPEAKER_05 2:24:01

Did you know?

SPEAKER_04 2:24:08

Because I'll tell you what. This blew my mind when I learned about it. That mangoes can cause a rash very similar to poison ivy.

SPEAKER_06 2:24:21

Miss Meese legitimately was like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 2:24:26

Mango gas.

SPEAKER_06 2:24:28

Holy audible gas, Batman.

SPEAKER_05 2:24:29

But yeah, mangoes.

SPEAKER_00 2:24:30

Because that would ruin my life.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:33

But yes, mangoes, some people have a mango skin allergy that results in an itchy rash similar to poison ivy. That is because that is because mango skin contains Urashaw, the offending agent. Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_05 2:24:53

Uh-oh. Urashall.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:55

So, what plants do you need to avoid? Most people are pretty savvy about staying away from poison ivy, poison oak, or poison sumac if they have ever developed a nasty rash associated with one of these. But what about a mango skin allergy? Did you know that it can create a similar type of rash to poison ivy? So the reason being is because Urashawl, right, is the oily substance that comes from uh poison ivy, poison sumac, all that kind of stuff. And mangoes come from the same family as poison ivy and poison oak. Also including cashews and pistachios. Rutro raggi.

SPEAKER_02 2:25:37

I had no idea. Oh yeah, like but is it only in the skin of the mango? So the skin is not in the fleshy bit?

SPEAKER_04 2:25:45

The skin of the mango, the tree of the mango, and obviously the vines of the mango contain urishawl, which is so the fleshy part of the mango, the the edible part that we eat are good. But some people can still get what they call mango mouth because they'll eat mangoes and straight get a rash on their mouth. The mango mouth is diabolic.

SPEAKER_00 2:26:11

Let me tell you something. Mangoes, pistachios, and cashews are like my top three fucking food groups. Right? Right. That would destroy me. That would destroy me. Yeah, it would be.

SPEAKER_05 2:26:24

It would destroy me. Yeah, so so here's so here's those things almost daily.

SPEAKER_04 2:26:31

Miss Meeseek's life would be ruined. Ruined! So here's here's the crazy part, right? So if you've never um like handle the mango with the skin on, because most people get, you know, they peel the mangoes, all that kind of stuff, or they or they take the fleshy bits out. If you've never peeled a mango, you I guess you really wouldn't know if you are if you'll have a severe allergic reaction to the Urachol, because most of it, especially um processed and all that kind of stuff, most of it's already gone. Now, if you buy mangoes fresh with the skin on and you plan on peeling it yourself, take care, especially if you don't know, use gloves, right? Obviously, use gloves. But when I learned that all of that is all falls under the same family, I said, no fucking shot, dude. I was like, no way. Do poison ivy, poison sumac, and mangoes share the same fucking shit. What? That's crazy. What?

SPEAKER_00 2:27:28

This is like the best piece of information, super educational. Right. But like also, my brain is a little fucked because I'm also like, man, the next person I date, I'm gonna find out if they're allergic to poison ivy and if they've had any of those stories. And like, if they piss me off or I feel unsafe with them, I'm gonna just go buy a fresh ass mango and fucking throw it in their bed sheet.

SPEAKER_06 2:27:52

Well, well, I mean, you can do that.

unknown 2:27:54

You can do that.

SPEAKER_00 2:27:55

I'm like, what the fuck? I don't know. Sorry, I lost my mangoes in their bed. I set my mark, my farmer's market bag down in your bed, and then they wake up fucking.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:08

I said it's a new one. So I think that's premeditated now, so we gotta scale that.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:13

Yeah, we no that's staying in.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:17

That's what that's called.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:18

That's that's staying in.

SPEAKER_03 2:28:20

It is aggravated and I assaulted and I assault.

SPEAKER_00 2:28:24

Is what it's called. I think what I would be charged with.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:26

So so definitely, definitely for some people, if that some people that do eat mangoes can lead to anaphylactasis. So just be mindful of that.

SPEAKER_00 2:28:37

You could leave a Benadryl just out of read. Damn.

SPEAKER_05 2:28:42

Crawl for it, bitch.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:46

The best part is it's empty box. It's empty box of vinegar.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:52

Wait, wait, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. For the jokes. We're not we're not gonna.

SPEAKER_03 2:28:58

Did we just write a horror story? We just are all inside thoughts, mind you. These are all those inside thoughts just came outside, so we're sorry.

SPEAKER_04 2:29:11

Anyway, if we're all done with premeditated murder.

SPEAKER_03 2:29:18

Join us next time for our murder mystery podcast.

SPEAKER_05 2:29:23

This week on FMJ, someone died from mangoes. Mango Madgo Madame Murderer.

SPEAKER_00 2:29:32

The Mango Mouth murderer.

SPEAKER_06 2:29:35

I fucking love it.

SPEAKER_04 2:29:40

So anyway.

SPEAKER_00 2:29:41

Anyway, spicy today.

SPEAKER_04 2:29:44

That's okay. But yeah, mangoes can absolutely cause a rash very similar to poison ivy. Be careful handling your mangoes. Just just so we're clear. And cashews and fucking pistachios, apparently. Like, what? What? How how did we get here? How did we get here?

SPEAKER_05 2:30:02

Why is everything related?

SPEAKER_03 2:30:04

Why are they feeding us things that can kill us? That can kill us!

SPEAKER_04 2:30:10

They must not like us very much. So anyway, there's a fun fact. Do with that what you will. Do not stop eating mangoes unless you're deathly allergic to mangoes. And obviously, they say if you're allergic to one, you're more than likely allergic to the rest. So if you do wind up getting mango mouth or breaking out in a rash from handling a mango, steer clear of poison ivy and poison oak and pistachios and cashews, because they'll probably kill you. Anyway, we'll wrap this baby up, put a pretty little bow on it, because we got stuff to do like Burger

Schedule Notes And Farewell

SPEAKER_04 2:30:40

King. What? Let's fucking go. I can't wait. Um join us in two weeks. Uh we had uh yeah, join us in two weeks when we come up with something else to talk about. I'm sure we'll have something fun for you guys. Um but it'll be a surprise. Yeah, we see.

SPEAKER_00 2:30:57

Are we doing in two weeks?

SPEAKER_04 2:30:59

Are we what?

SPEAKER_00 2:31:00

Are we doing two weeks? Or is it gonna be three?

SPEAKER_04 2:31:03

So it'll technically be three, because as of this recording, we had to do back-to-back weeks because uh Yeti and I have to do um have to do the uh uh air show next weekend. So now, I mean, unless everybody's cool with changing the the schedule up, it'd be just kind it'd be kind of a shock to the system, but but the as of this recording, yes, it is the weekend before the air show.

SPEAKER_00 2:31:34

Um this is want to prepare our fans for some disruption of Derby.

SPEAKER_04 2:31:39

That that that's totally okay, because here's what's gonna happen. Obviously, I'm gonna edit this and then I'm gonna set it up to release that Monday when I'm off on time. So we will stay on schedule.

SPEAKER_05 2:31:49

Bim, beep, beep, boo.

SPEAKER_04 2:31:53

Our recording will just be on the 7th of June and not June 14th.

SPEAKER_00 2:32:00

So, anyways, it's my first time here in life.

SPEAKER_04 2:32:03

This is my first time ever recording this is my first time ever recording a pre-recorded show. It's okay. It's alright. We I'm just a girl. I'm just a girl. Hey! Let's let's hey! Stop it, stop it. Anyway, um, yeah, just join us in two weeks when this after this episode airs. Um hope y'all can go with go that long without us. But that means that y'all have an extra week to just chill.

SPEAKER_01 2:32:37

You know what I mean? So that'd be dope.

SPEAKER_04 2:32:40

So that'll give us some time to think. Anyway, before we leave, um, friendly reminder, Magic Mind, boo-doop! If you would like to try for yourself, stop by www.magicmind.com and use our uh discount code, Jesus Christ, where it's hard right now, at checkout, FMJ Pod 20 for 48% off your first time subscription or 20% off one-time purchases, and let us know how it works for you. But until then, say ta-ta to your fans.

SPEAKER_05 2:33:10

Toodles this long! Templeton!

SPEAKER_04 2:33:19

I think I got kidnapped by uh by toilet demons or something. Um a mango. Ooh, mango allergy. Hey, just so we're clear before before we actually get out of here, do you know how far um Frankfurt, Germany has fallen on our top listening area? What? It's wild. They are like bottom of they're like bottom list, like they're like just barely squeaking out top five.

SPEAKER_00 2:33:50

Hold on, question Germany.

SPEAKER_02 2:33:53

Did we upset you?

SPEAKER_00 2:33:54

Hold on, since when? Hold on, since when.

SPEAKER_04 2:33:57

Since when? I would probably say I mean it's probably been like at least like a month or so. Maybe live recording. What what happened? I I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 2:34:08

But let me hang on, let me let me let me do let me do a check up factual information because if it's near or around February 2026, I could tell you why.

SPEAKER_02 2:34:18

Uh-oh. Why? What'd you do?

SPEAKER_00 2:34:20

Because people hate a female.

SPEAKER_02 2:34:25

We have to go.

SPEAKER_00 2:34:29

See you bye.

SPEAKER_01 2:34:34

I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_00 2:34:36

It's a mini croissant. And it has lemon cream and strawberries. Lemon cream and strawberries. Isn't it cute?

SPEAKER_04 2:34:44

Isn't it made by actual Frenchmen? What is it?

SPEAKER_00 2:34:48

Made by Paris Baguette.

SPEAKER_04 2:34:50

No, it's Paris Baguette.

SPEAKER_00 2:34:53

Paris Buggy.

SPEAKER_04 2:34:54

Peribuggy. Thanks for listening. And please remember to follow us on Facebook at FMJ PodcastPros or on XSPros FMJ. Don't forget to find the FMJ Podcast on YouTube. And if you want more of us, please subscribe to Extra Life.

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