MAYSVILLE - The Movie

Writer and director Leslie Goyette, and producer Michele Englehart join Papamutes to chat about their  feature length coming of age 1920's independent period film Maysville. As first time film makers Leslie and Michele share their experiences with securing funding for the film, the "power of the ask" and some of the pit falls as well as triumphs along the way. With the help of so many people Maysville is a beautifully photographed and moving story.
Name that Movie and Celebrity Real names segments challenge Leslie and Michele, how did they do? You'll have to tune in. Grab a beer and a chair and enjoy Maysville the Movie on Papamutes.

Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):

You're listening to Unmuted with Papamutes.

Speaker 2 (00:07):

Now, where is the romance in the asking a woman where she wants to go. Take me somewhere I've never been.

papamutes (00:16):

Welcome to Papamutes, everybody. Today I'm super excited to have on the podcast, Leslie Goyette writer, director, and Michelle Englehart, producer of the independent film, Maysville. Maysville is a period piece in 1920s coming of age, feature length thriller. What I liked about this movie is what all good films should have in common, that is caring about the characters, relating to the characters and wanting to see their journey. That's the key. Maysville is well photographed, edited, and the pacing keeps the story moving forward. They're coming to me from across the nation, Leslie, from Portland, Oregon, and Michelle from Seattle, Washington. Leslie and Michelle, welcome to Papamutes.

Michelle (00:57):

Thank you for having us.

papamutes (01:01):

In a nutshell, what's it about?

Michelle (01:02):

So it's set back in the 1920s. It's a period film. We call it a period coming of age film, some people-

papamutes (01:11):

Okay. Coming of age. There you go. Okay.

Michelle (01:15):

It starts out with two kids, two boys who are really good friends growing up in a rural poor area in Appalachia.

Movie scene (01:23):

Dammit Willy. You always die first. I never get to die first. Come on. Come back, Can't you tell my legs are full of shrapnel.

Michelle (01:33):

And a tragic accident happens that sets up the whole film. And one of the kids is blamed for the accident and is taken hostage by the other kid's dad. And he's basically a slave to the other kid's dad to pay a penance for this accident. And he's a slave for quite a few years and was not treated well to say the least. And he eventually breaks out to reconnect with his family. And so that's what it's about.

papamutes (02:16):

So a coming of age, kid goes through some trauma and he's trying to get out of that obviously. Yeah. So how long, Leslie, did it take you to write the script? And when you say script, I'm assuming screenplay.

Leslie (02:33):

Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know what's crazy is that when I sat down and I was... you sat down and you make a little outline and it's kind of how it's going to go. And then all of a sudden, once I started writing, it came really fast. And I would say I had the first draft within two weeks of the entire story. Now it did grow and evolve from the original script as you get feedback. And you should let as many good readers read it as you can. And I did that and I got a lot of feedback. So we had to make some changes, which I did. But initially it came really quick. It was really, really, really easy to write. I've been a closet writer, my whole life. I've always been terrified to ever let anyone see, to ever read anything I ever write because I compare it to letting someone see me naked.

papamutes (03:34):

Yeah. Well that's-

Leslie (03:36):

Because letting someone read what you write, it's such an insight into who you are as an individual. Do they think you're crazy? Do they think you're warped and twisted?

papamutes (03:51):

Yeah.

Leslie (03:51):

Do they think that it's personal, very personal. So this was the big deal for me. The first time I reached out and let Michelle read the script.

papamutes (04:01):

You get this idea, to the final edit where it's done and you're ready to show people. What timeframe are we talking? A year, two years, from the very first thought to, wow, it's done. Now we need to show people.

Leslie (04:15):

Oh, three years.

papamutes (04:15):

Approximately, oh three years. Okay.

Leslie (04:18):

Three years.

papamutes (04:20):

Now where was it shot?

Michelle (04:22):

Oh, where was it shot? It was shot halfway, equal distant between Leslie and me. So Portland and Seattle, about three hours from each other.

Michelle (04:31):

We found the perfect location an hour and a half from our houses, so between us in twin towns of Centralia and Chehalis Washington. They are historic towns. We just were so fortunate to come across these towns because I don't think the movie would've been made or certainly been made as well as it was without us discovering these towns and filming there because the community down there supported us a 110% to get this film made. I think we did a really good job at reaching out to the community there, ahead of filming. We held what we wanted to be a fundraiser. It turned out was a fundraiser, but we got much more out of it than just making little money to help with the film. We got a ton of other resources out of that dinner fundraiser. And we had over a hundred people attend and they gave us so much. We found all our locations, barn to burn down if we wanted, two of them. Right Leslie?

Leslie (05:38):

You got two barns to burn down, volunteers.

papamutes (05:41):

Movies, a lot of stuff.

Leslie (05:45):

Movies cost a lot of money.

papamutes (05:47):

Even small ones. I mean, not to disrespect your movie, but even a smaller-

Leslie (05:52):

Yes.

papamutes (05:54):

It's crazy, it's a miracle to get a movie made.

Leslie (05:56):

It takes so many people. It takes so many people. You may see two people on screen, but there's 30 people standing around, ready to move a light, to move a flag, to get the another lens or you've got your hair and your makeup team and then you've got your costume runner that's going to run over and readjust to the collar how it was back at the beginning of the scene for another take.

papamutes (06:21):

Continuity.

Leslie (06:23):

It takes so many people to just shoot one little scene. We did an Indiegogo campaign. Which is much like a Kickstarter. But Indiegogo is mostly known for independent films and filmmakers. Yeah. So we had a very successful Indiegogo campaign, which helped us get a certain dollar amount. And then we got, during the actual production part of it, while we were filming it, we got a sponsorship through Fractured Atlas that gave us a 501C3, a sponsorship that allowed us... and I should let my producer talk more about this because that allowed people to donate to us with a tax write off. And then we had the dinner, the one that Michelle mentioned earlier. So we had three different fundraisers that got us [inaudible 00:07:23] the dollar amount and we needed to film it.

Michelle (07:26):

Yeah. So we had two options that we talked about seriously. And one was to just do a short film, a really good short film with the setup of the story, the first 15 minutes of the story could logically be turned into a short film.

Michelle (07:42):

Or do the feature film and Leslie's more of a risk taker than me. So in my head, I really just wanted to do the short film. And that's usually how filmmakers get started. They do short films to showcase what they can do in order to get funding and support for a feature length film. But I think we're just good enough with the fundraising that it gave at least Leslie, the idea that, oh, we need to go for broke. We need to make this feature film. And that's what she said. I'm going to make a feature film. Are you coming with me? Because we did do a good job. We took about six months to fundraise, which I think was our smartest move or just a move that a lot of filmmakers don't do that phase or take the time and the energy to do a fundraising phase like we did.

Michelle (08:33):

So I think we did well enough to convince ourselves to go for the feature. But it wasn't just the money that we raised. It was also everything that we found in the communities where we filmed that... we were able to get so much basically for free, our props, we borrowed props, we borrowed antique cars. All our locations were free. We got free meals from the restaurants [crosstalk 00:09:00].

papamutes (09:00):

I like that. Free beer? I guess not, not free beer.

Michelle (09:05):

I don't remember the free beer. That would've been good.

Leslie (09:08):

It was a hustle. I mean, yes, we did fundraising. There was a lot of hustle between Michelle and I. We attended all these car shows and we befriended all of these people with these classic cars and said, "Hey, would you be willing? I don't have any money to give you, but would you be willing to put your car in our movie?" And the people would graciously say yes and God bless them, they'd be on set for 12 hours. And they'd be sitting on one side of the street with their little camp chairs while we were shooting. And then we'd say, "Okay, now we're going to get the reverse. Can you move your camp chair to the other side of the street?" And they sat there for 12 hours with their car.

papamutes (09:45):

Danger of the experience. Yeah, exactly.

Leslie (09:48):

They were so wonderful. So there was a lot of hustle that getting out there and making those connections and finding people that would be willing to help us make it, not just-

papamutes (10:01):

How long did it take from the first so-called principle photography to the very last that's a wrap?

Leslie (10:08):

To the martini shot. We did three weeks of principal photography. And then we had to go back three weeks later because we had to wait till the burn ban in Washington state was over. So there was a burn ban that we could not have any kind of flame, three and a half weeks, total, 18 days. And then we came back and we shot for three more, so 21 days

papamutes (10:36):

Really?

Leslie (10:37):

Oh, it was go, go, go, go.

papamutes (10:41):

Wow. Wow.

Michelle (10:42):

When you don't have a lot of money, that's what you do.

Leslie (10:44):

All about being very, very organized. And when we set our schedules, we're like how much time to take down, how much time to set up, how much time. We had to schedule everything down to the last minute.

Leslie (10:58):

That we love to tell about this is that our two lead, our romantic leads there, because there is a love story between a young man and a young woman. And even during the audition process, they could never be in the audition room at the same time. She had to go to Sweden and he was in LA. So we actually cast them without any kind of chemistry test together. And their very first day on set together, there's a scene where they have their first kiss in the lake, in the water. And so nothing like... and we had to do it in one tape, one tape, because we only had one set of her clothes. And once her hair got wet... so yeah, it was great. It was like, hey, you guys are going to meet, you're going to kiss, and you're going to get wet in the water all in just a couple of hours.

papamutes (11:50):

You're going to kiss and get wet. Okay. Wow. Do what you have to do. A person who wants to make a film, wants to do what you want to do. Obviously you need talent, but what's the other thing you need besides talent to get this done?

Leslie (12:06):

Money. [inaudible 00:12:12]

papamutes (12:11):

Cash flow.

Michelle (12:13):

Yes. You need money. But you know-

Leslie (12:18):

If I've learned anything about this is that you have to have a community that's going to support you. A community that believes in you and when I say community, I mean more than your mom and dad. You have to really know and put yourself out there and you need to shake hands and you need to let people know that you're coming into town and that this is what I want to do and meet people.

Leslie (12:43):

We went to city council and made a plea before city council, Michelle and I did, to see if the city would waive all of the permitting fees because we didn't have enough money to pay the permits, to block off the streets. And the city was gracious enough to do that for us. We said, "Would you allow us to film inside your historical museum, the Poorest house, which is a very sacred building in their community. They love this monument, it's preserved. And they did, so we learned that there's something called the power of the ask, and that people want to help. They do, at the end of the day, people want to help people, but you have to put yourself out there and you have to be honest and of who you are, what you're doing, what you're trying to achieve and can you help me get there?

Michelle (13:33):

We had to get over... I'm a little more shy than Leslie, I think, but you get over that. You just have to start asking. So that's what Leslie says, it's the power of the ask. You get used to asking. It's not a big deal, the worst that they can say is no. The worst usually that they can say. And for the most... the surprising number of yeses is just so ridiculous. I felt like this movie was just meant to be because almost everybody said yes. We needed a 1929 Fordson tractor. And we happened to find one right in the town where we filmed well preserved, because it was in a tractor museum. So we just asked, can we borrow that for the day? Sure. Yes. I'll have it delivered. The owner of the museum delivered it to us for that day of film.

papamutes (14:24):

Wow. Wow. That's great. Now how's it been received? What's the feedback you've got?

Michelle (14:29):

We, had a premier at a theater here in Seattle and it was so fun for Leslie and I to watch it with everybody else in that theater. I mean it was very well received in the theater. We got such great feedback. People were kind of over the top impressed with the quality, the cinematography, the story. They followed the story, they were engaged the whole time. That's the kind of feedback we've been getting. We've been getting feedback back that it looks and feels very much like a studio based film. How the hell did you pull this off?

papamutes (15:11):

No doubt.

Michelle (15:12):

The fact that it's set back in time, to do that on our tiny little less than six figure budget is unthinkable for, I think, most filmmakers and maybe we're just so ignorant. Most filmmakers would be like, you shouldn't rationally think that, that would be in any way, shape or form possible, but we somehow managed to pull it off.

papamutes (15:36):

So now has anyone-

Michelle (15:37):

That's kind of the story behind the story.

papamutes (15:37):

Okay.

Leslie (15:39):

From critics too, we have a good rotten tomato score.

papamutes (15:42):

I saw that.

Leslie (15:45):

We're fresh. We're a tomato.

papamutes (15:46):

Love tomatoes. Love a nice tomato.

Leslie (15:50):

It's been great. I mean there's no one film out there that appeals to everyone. That film has never been made and never will be made because everybody likes different things. But overall, we're really excited with how it's been received.

papamutes (16:06):

Now, has it gotten noticed by so-called people in Hollywood or anywhere outside of your niche? You know what I mean? Has anyone said, "Hey."

Michelle (16:19):

Not yet. It's being taken to Con, the Con Film Market next week.

papamutes (16:25):

Festival. Okay.

Michelle (16:25):

So we feel like we're in good hands with our distributor, Indie Rights is our distributor and we've been on Amazon. We're on Google Play and YouTube and Tubi TV. And so far the numbers are actually looking really good. So I guess we're learning because distribution is new to us too, and it changes so fast. It's just a really changing market. But if our numbers are really good, that can look good for taking it to LA or the bigger studios, the bigger streaming services and whatnot, cable TV.

papamutes (17:06):

Okay.

Leslie (17:07):

And I'm sure after this podcast, Papa, we're going to get all kinds of calls from LA and everywhere.

papamutes (17:14):

They'll be swarming like bees around a hive.

Leslie (17:16):

Thank you so much. We needed this exposure.

papamutes (17:20):

So let me ask you this. Just hypothetically, you're going to make another movie and you can pick a star. Who would that be? I mean a famous person.

Leslie (17:31):

Oh gosh.

Michelle (17:33):

Oh my gosh. That's such a, what? Depends on the movie, but I guess who is like, a dream star. George Clooney, maybe.

papamutes (17:40):

No, wait a minute. No way. I'm talking about a movie, not like fascination.

Leslie (17:48):

Well, I can answer that. I can answer that. I too am a big fan of George Clooney and I actually have four other scripts that I'm working on and playing with right now. And I think that everyone loves Meryl Streep. She can't do anything wrong. I've got a comedy script and I would love to have John Cougar Mellencamp. I know that comedy came out. Right. But I have an absolutely wonderful, hilarious script, but it's all based around John Cougar Mellencamp. And I would love for him to make a cameo in the film.

papamutes (18:30):

Would you say you guys are movie lovers?

Leslie (18:31):

Absolutely. That's what I grew up with. I grew up really poor as a kid. So movies was the only thing that I really had to do. That was my entertainment, what was going to be on ABC Disney on Sunday night or what was going to be on NBC Friday night movie or anything like that. And it's funny too, because for so many years I did not know movies had bad language because I only saw the television version of it.

papamutes (19:04):

Oh, okay. I hate when a movie... I like movies, all type of movies. I hate when they chop it up. They don't show you the raw movie, the way it was made but TV is TV.

Leslie (19:21):

When I became an adult, I got a whole new life of movies. That was in that movie? I didn't know that was in that movie. Huh.

papamutes (19:28):

This leads me to a segment I call Name That Movie. That's why I asked you that question. Normally I would-

Leslie (19:35):

Sounds like a challenge.

papamutes (19:36):

Yes. Challenges is up. Normally I would play a soundbite from a movie, but this one is different. I'm going to give you a character and you tell me which movie. So if I said Rocky, obviously it would be Sylvester Stallone in Rocky. That's kind of an obvious, but that's the gist of it. Are you ready for this challenge?

Leslie (19:53):

Yes.

Michelle (19:53):

We are ready.

papamutes (19:54):

All right. Here we go. Which movie incorporated Hannibal Lecter?

Leslie (20:06):

Oh, the lambs. Silence of the Lambs.

papamutes (20:09):

That is correct. Now follow up question. Who played it? Who is the actor?

Leslie (20:15):

Hannibal Lecter or Jodi Foster?

papamutes (20:18):

Who played Hannibal Lecter?

Leslie (20:19):

Oh, Anthony Hopkins.

papamutes (20:21):

Boom. She's on fire. Follow up question. Follow up questions, gets a little tougher. Actually, it's not that tough, but in the movie, he is a serial killer obviously that eats his victims. Yummy. Yum. But his career, his profession before he turned psycho, was what?

Leslie (20:44):

I think he was a psychiatrist?

Michelle (20:47):

I think you're right.

papamutes (20:48):

Michelle? I was going to give you multiple choice. How about if I give you multiple choice? That's okay. Is he a forensic psychiatrist, a brain surgeon, or an anesthesiologist?

Leslie (21:02):

I thought he was a psychiatrist.

papamutes (21:05):

Is that your final answer?

Leslie (21:07):

Yeah, sure.

Michelle (21:07):

Yeah.

papamutes (21:08):

That is correct. Psycho psychiatrist. All right. All right. Which movie had the character... now, these are main characters. I'm not going to throw curve balls. Dr. Emmett Brown. Very popular movie. No, I'll tell you. It's old. Not old, old, but I think it was made in the mid eighties.

Leslie (21:31):

Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

papamutes (21:31):

Dr. Emmett Brown

Leslie (21:33):

Doc Brown. Doc Brown

papamutes (21:34):

Doc Brown.

Leslie (21:35):

Back to the Future. Am I wrong?

papamutes (21:37):

No. No, that's good. That's right.

Leslie (21:40):

Oh, it was the Emmett that was throwing me off. Okay.

papamutes (21:43):

Who played him? Actor.

Leslie (21:45):

Oh, Christopher Lloyd.

papamutes (21:46):

Boom. She's on fire. Now, you probably know this too. He created a time machine, obviously. What was that time machine created with?

Leslie (21:58):

A DeLorean.

papamutes (22:02):

I got to toughen up these questions. All right, here we go. Which movie contained the character Maximus?

Leslie (22:13):

Gladiator.

papamutes (22:14):

Did you cheat? Did you look down in cheat?

Leslie (22:17):

No, Gladiator. I was doing my best Elizabeth Taylor. Gladiator, from the Oscars.

papamutes (22:23):

All right. So in the movie. Oh, who played it? Who was the actor?

Leslie (22:30):

Oh, was it Joaquin Phoenix?

Michelle (22:34):

Who played Maximus?

papamutes (22:35):

Yes.

Michelle (22:35):

Joaquin Phoenix.

papamutes (22:35):

No

Michelle (22:38):

No?

Michelle (22:40):

Oh, Maximus, the lead, Crowe. Russell Crowe.

papamutes (22:43):

Russell Crowe. That's correct.

Leslie (22:45):

Oh Russel Crowe. Yes. Yeah. Yep. That's right.

papamutes (22:48):

What was his position in the military?

Leslie (22:51):

Oh.

papamutes (22:52):

Now we're really getting deep now.

Leslie (22:54):

Was he like a general? Is he a general?

papamutes (22:56):

He was a general. You guys are sweeping it here. Final question. In that movie, he was a general, you know the storyline. His fellow gladiators referred to him as what? The Roman? The Spaniard? Or the Italian?

Michelle (23:15):

Spaniard.

Leslie (23:16):

Roman.

papamutes (23:18):

It is Spaniard.

Leslie (23:20):

Oh, nice one. Michelle.

papamutes (23:24):

Michelle saved you. That's okay. No, you guys did good. That was great. Eh, let's see here.

Leslie (23:34):

That was fun.

papamutes (23:34):

Yes.

Leslie (23:34):

Thank you for movies that are more our age.

papamutes (23:36):

Yeah. You know what? I try to span the globe. Now, this is real names of celebrities. Some celebrities don't have a real name or they use fake names or whatever you want. Stage names, whatever you want to call it. This is extreme. So if you get this, I'll be impressed. Whose real name is Alicia Beth Moore?

Michelle (24:01):

Julianne Moore.

papamutes (24:03):

No, I'll tell you. It's a singer.

Michelle (24:07):

Oh. Alicia Keys?

Leslie (24:08):

Oh, lady Gaga.

papamutes (24:11):

Double, double incorrect. That would be Pink.

Leslie (24:16):

Oh. Oh.

papamutes (24:16):

I told you this is extreme. This is extreme. Let's see who real name is Christopher Brian Bridges? I'll tell you he is a rapper.

papamutes (24:30):

It's called extreme for a reason. Christopher Brian Bridges.

Leslie (24:38):

Does he have more than one rap name?

papamutes (24:41):

I don't think so, no. I only know him by one name. I got him on speed dial. All right.

Leslie (24:50):

Dead or alive? Are they dead?

papamutes (24:52):

No. He's alive.

Leslie (24:52):

Snoop Dogg.

papamutes (24:57):

No close, Ludicrous.

Leslie (24:58):

Ludicrous.

papamutes (24:59):

Ludicrous. All here's another singer, another rapper. John Rogers Steven or I'm sorry, John Roger Stevens. Who is John Roger Stevens? I will tell you that John is part of the name. So that might be a big hint.

Michelle (25:19):

John Cougar Mellencamp

papamutes (25:22):

No, no, no.

Leslie (25:25):

And he's a singer?

papamutes (25:28):

Very popular.

Leslie (25:29):

[inaudible 00:25:29].

papamutes (25:30):

He's alive.

Leslie (25:31):

Okay. John. John Legend.

papamutes (25:35):

Yes. Correct.

Leslie (25:37):

John Legend.

papamutes (25:38):

That is correct.

Leslie (25:39):

Is that true? Oh my gosh. Well that was a total guess.

papamutes (25:44):

Julie Ann Smith.

Leslie (25:46):

Julie Ann Smith?

papamutes (25:48):

Actress.

Michelle (25:49):

Actress. Is Julie Julianne her first real name?

papamutes (25:58):

Yes. That's a big giveaway.

Leslie (26:01):

Zendaya, her is Zendaya. He got me.

papamutes (26:02):

That's Julian Moore. If you get this, I'll be super impressed. Whose real name is Kevin Ferguson. And he's dead.

Michelle (26:17):

He's dead?

papamutes (26:18):

Yeah. I have to give you a hint, because I'm guessing you don't... I could be wrong. You don't follow MMA, which is martial, or what is MMA?

Leslie (26:27):

Mixed martial arts.

papamutes (26:29):

Makes martial arts.

Leslie (26:30):

I do not follow mixed martial arts.

papamutes (26:30):

All right. That would be Kimbo Slice.

Leslie (26:33):

Oh Jesus. Oh yeah.

papamutes (26:34):

Interesting.

Leslie (26:35):

I got nothing.

Leslie (26:35):

I got nothing on that one.

papamutes (26:39):

Interesting story. All right, here we go. Actress, Milena Markovna and I could be butchering that name. Milena Markovna

Leslie (26:48):

Oh, is that Ashton Kutcher's wife

papamutes (26:51):

Milena Markovna.

Leslie (26:53):

Is it Ashley Kutcher's wife. What's her name? Ooh.

Leslie (26:55):

Mila Kunis.

papamutes (26:57):

That's right. Correct, correct.

Leslie (27:01):

Is it really?

papamutes (27:02):

Yes.

Michelle (27:02):

How did you know that?

Leslie (27:04):

They both sound Russian. I mean, I know she's from the Ukraine, so.

papamutes (27:09):

All right. Actress, Nita Lee Hershlag.

Leslie (27:13):

Hershlag?

papamutes (27:16):

Hershlag, LAG.

Leslie (27:18):

And it's an actress?

papamutes (27:20):

Yes. Again it's NETA Lee Hershlag. That's how I'm seeing it, but I'll blame the beer if I'm messing up.

Leslie (27:31):

Let's go.

Michelle (27:35):

German.

papamutes (27:37):

Oh no, don't look down Michelle. I see you.

Leslie (27:38):

I'm thinking, is it like Lizzo?

papamutes (27:44):

No, no. It's a very popular... I mean, I wouldn't put her at the top of the list, but she's up there. It's a tough one. It's Natalie Portman.

Leslie (27:56):

Natalie Portman. Never would've guessed that.

papamutes (27:58):

Yeah. Okay. Here's one. Olivia [inaudible 00:28:01], thank you, actress.

Leslie (28:04):

Is it what's her name from flee? Olivia.

papamutes (28:11):

I will say that is her first name.

Leslie (28:16):

Is it what's her name from Flee, she's in everything right now. She's English.

papamutes (28:25):

I know nothing.

Leslie (28:26):

It's not?

papamutes (28:26):

I'm just saying, you can't squeeze it out of me. I'm I'm like a steel trap.

Leslie (28:30):

Is it Cole?

papamutes (28:35):

Think of an actor's name Olivia. No.

Leslie (28:38):

It's not Olivia Coleman?

papamutes (28:39):

No.

Leslie (28:39):

It's not Olivia Coleman. Olivia Dehavalin?

papamutes (28:44):

Popular, but not like Meryl Streep popular. It's Olivia Wilde.

Michelle (28:51):

Oh gosh.

papamutes (28:53):

Here we go. Here we go.

Leslie (28:54):

Her new movie looks pretty interesting.

papamutes (28:56):

Yes. What is it?

Leslie (28:58):

Oh, you haven't seen it. It's her directorial debut. And it's her and Harry Styles. And they're in some kind of utopian society and she needs to break out. And as a woman, they don't want her to reveal what's actually going on. I find it interesting, kind of a little Stepford Wives thing.

papamutes (29:18):

Okay. This is a director. Shelton Lee

Michelle (29:25):

Shelton Lee

Leslie (29:27):

Yang Lee.

Michelle (29:29):

Bruce Lee. Oh, a director.

papamutes (29:32):

He's alive. Think about it. I can give you a hint, but I think it will give it away. Last name-

Michelle (29:42):

Spike Lee.

papamutes (29:43):

Spike Lee, yes.

Leslie (29:44):

Spike Lee, oh gosh.

papamutes (29:47):

Last one. You have to get this. Actually, this is a tricky one, I'm going to say Laura Horowitz.

Leslie (30:00):

Laura Horowitz.

papamutes (30:03):

I mean, actually the first name is on this... if I gave you the first name, you'll probably figure it out. So let me give it to you. It's Winona Laura Horowitz.

Leslie (30:16):

Winona Ryder

papamutes (30:17):

Yes.

Michelle (30:18):

Oh, Winona.

papamutes (30:19):

Hey, what can I say?

Michelle (30:23):

You still got it. Hey, got one for you. Got one for you too, Archie Leach.

papamutes (30:32):

Huh?

Leslie (30:34):

Who?

papamutes (30:35):

What's the-

Leslie (30:37):

Archie Leach

Michelle (30:37):

Oh, actor.

papamutes (30:39):

Archie Leach. As in you're a Leach.

Leslie (30:43):

All right, Papa, what you got on Archie Leach.

papamutes (30:45):

an you give me like comedy or like-

Michelle (30:47):

I'll give you a hint, he's dead.

Leslie (30:52):

That narrows it down. Archie Leach.

Michelle (30:54):

I don't know why I remember this.

papamutes (30:56):

Archie Leach. Has he been there for a long time? Like an old-

Michelle (31:00):

Well, yes, a decade or two.

papamutes (31:03):

Was it a tragic death?

Michelle (31:06):

I don't think so.

Leslie (31:07):

Is it James?

papamutes (31:09):

Archie Leach.

Leslie (31:10):

James.

papamutes (31:11):

I don't know. I don't know.

Leslie (31:12):

Dylan.

papamutes (31:14):

Give me a hint. Give me a movie. Give me something.

Michelle (31:17):

Well old time actor. Very famous.

papamutes (31:21):

Archie Leach.

Michelle (31:21):

Good looking.

Leslie (31:23):

Rebel Without a Cause.

Michelle (31:24):

Very elegant.

Leslie (31:25):

Rebel Without a Cause. What's his name?

papamutes (31:27):

James Dean.

Leslie (31:28):

James Dean.

Michelle (31:29):

No, good guess.

papamutes (31:31):

That old? I mean, we going back to the fifties here?

Michelle (31:36):

Yep.

papamutes (31:39):

Oh.

Leslie (31:39):

I got nothing, Michelle, you got me.

papamutes (31:40):

I'm stunned.

Michelle (31:41):

It's Carrie Grant. Carrie Grant's real name is Archie Leach.

papamutes (31:46):

Not that old.

Michelle (31:48):

And Carrie Grant's name is so elegant and he was so elegant. I just remember how... I mean Archie Leach.

papamutes (31:54):

Archie Leach. Thank God he changed it.

Michelle (31:55):

Yeah. Glad he changed it.

papamutes (31:58):

So what's in the future? What's coming up? Summer, what's going on film wise of course.

Michelle (32:06):

Well Leslie's got seven scripts in her closet.

papamutes (32:09):

We got to come out of the closet. Let's go.

Michelle (32:12):

We need to see how well Maysville does. Things take a long time before you get the data and we want to see where we're going to land financially with it. And then based on that, we will figure out where to go from there. But yeah, Leslie's got a whole bunch of scripts in her back pocket that she probably has not let anybody read yet.

Leslie (32:34):

Not yet. Not yet.

Michelle (32:37):

She's told me about some of them.

papamutes (32:38):

Now, who do you let read?

Michelle (32:39):

They're quite different.

Leslie (32:41):

What's that?

papamutes (32:43):

You have a script, who do you show? Who do you-

Leslie (32:45):

I will show my husband.

papamutes (32:46):

But I mean, to get people interested in the industry, who would you show?

Leslie (32:52):

Right, right. I think, well like Michelle said, we're still in the early stages of seeing how Maysville is going to roll out. And Michelle and I may potentially attend a market in the fall ourselves and try to put ourselves out there because we're a pretty damn good production team between the two of us. I think that we've proven that we can do a quality piece of work with absolutely almost no money.

papamutes (33:22):

Oh, the trailer itself speaks for itself. I mean, it's like, oh... within five seconds I was... because I watch I'm a movie freak too. I'm like, oh wow, this is good quality high end stuff.

Leslie (33:35):

Thank you. Yeah. And Michelle and I did it with hard work hustle and raising the funds for the first time. Second time would be great if we could actually get people to believe in us, support us. And we would love to make a presentation in front of a Netflix so we'd love to make a presentation in front of... I do know someone who got a five figure deal with Sony. And Sony said, "We're going to give you X amount of dollars. You're going to make five films and you can see if you can do that."

Leslie (34:01):

Those kind of opportunities just don't come every day. But it sure would be nice if Michelle and I, we've proven we can do it. We would love to just present some of our ideas and our scripts to industry professionals. That's where a lot of our feedback has come from was, oh my gosh, I did not see that coming.

papamutes (34:21):

Okay.

Michelle (34:21):

Changes everything.

Leslie (34:25):

Actually the last one minute of the film, and we take it all the way to the very end, really does. I'm sorry, not the last one minute the last two or three minutes. It explains the behaviors of the characters throughout the film. Sometimes you're a little confused as to why people are behaving the way they are. You'll find out at the very end, but you got to make it to the end of the film.

papamutes (34:45):

Okay. Well look, this has been great but thanks for coming on. I really appreciate it.

Michelle (34:51):

Thank you so much for your time.

Leslie (34:52):

Thank you.

papamutes (34:52):

All right guys. Take care.

Michelle (34:54):

Love trivia. All right. Take care.

papamutes (34:57):

Well there you have it, Maysville the movie. I want to thank Leslie and Michelle for taking time out of their day and coming on the Papamutes podcast. If you'd like to watch the movie Maysville, you can view it on Tubi, Amazon, Google Play, YouTube among others. I watched it on Tubi and it came across great and it was free. Hope to connect with Leslie and Michelle down the road when they are skyrocketing to superstardom. Why not? That's how it happens. No one knew who Quentin was. Everybody thought that was a prison. Now look at him. That would be Tarantino if anyone's wondering. So until next time, I'll see you in Maysville. I'm going to end this episode with a song that's in the movie titled Roots, written and perform by Larah Helayne. Enjoy.

Larah Helayne (35:42):

Can't know where you're going until you know where you're from. Can't sing a symphony until you learn how to hum. Can't dream a big dream until you leave the past behind. Can't claim myself till I know what is mine. My roots are found at the bottom of the Appalachias. They've been sown in coal and watered by a bottle of bourbon. I can't cut them off, when I am now just learning that my roots are made to grow into this bluegrass I call home.

Speaker 7 (36:56):

Welcome to Maysville.

Speaker 8 (36:56):

This has been an unmuted podcast with Papamutes.