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So I'm gonna sound want to"},{"speaker":"Erica Courdae","startTime":2826.21,"endTime":2828.97,"body":"contribute that to the playlist."},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2829.63,"endTime":2832.57,"body":"Awesome."},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2829.63,"endTime":2832.57,"body":"Yes, that is such a well and we"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2832.57,"endTime":2835.12,"body":"were just talking about that"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2832.57,"endTime":2835.12,"body":"connectivity and I feel like"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2835.12,"endTime":2838.09,"body":"rock with you is absolutely"},{"speaker":"Erica Courdae","startTime":2838.18,"endTime":2838.57,"body":"Yep!"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2838.6,"endTime":2841.87,"body":"About being"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2838.6,"endTime":2841.87,"body":"connected. So alright, so y'all"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2841.87,"endTime":2844.96,"body":"if you have not listened to"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2841.87,"endTime":2844.96,"body":"Cowboy Carter, definitely go"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2844.99,"endTime":2849.58,"body":"check out the album because it"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2844.99,"endTime":2849.58,"body":"is incredible. And also check"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2849.58,"endTime":2852.52,"body":"out the Unlimited Playlist"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2849.58,"endTime":2852.52,"body":"because I will have rock with me"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2852.73,"endTime":2857.02,"body":"on there as well. Erica, thank"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2852.73,"endTime":2857.02,"body":"you so much for joining me for"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2857.02,"endTime":2863.02,"body":"this conversation. It has been"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2857.02,"endTime":2863.02,"body":"just chills and fabulous. I"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2863.02,"endTime":2863.77,"body":"don't have words."},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2864.55,"endTime":2866.68,"body":"Pleasure's all mine. Thank you,"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2864.55,"endTime":2866.68,"body":"Valerie."},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2867.22,"endTime":2870.13,"body":"Thanks for listening. I so"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2867.22,"endTime":2870.13,"body":"appreciate you being here. If"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2870.13,"endTime":2872.83,"body":"you got something out of today's"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2870.13,"endTime":2872.83,"body":"episode, please share it. Leave"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2872.83,"endTime":2875.98,"body":"me a review. Take a screenshot"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2872.83,"endTime":2875.98,"body":"and post it on social with a"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2875.98,"endTime":2880.03,"body":"shout out to me. Send it to a"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2875.98,"endTime":2880.03,"body":"friend or you know all of the"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2880.03,"endTime":2884.05,"body":"above. Want to hang out more"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2880.03,"endTime":2884.05,"body":"join me on Instagram, or better"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2884.05,"endTime":2887.05,"body":"yet, get on my mailing list to"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2884.05,"endTime":2887.05,"body":"make sure you don't miss out on"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2887.05,"endTime":2891.64,"body":"anything. And remember, your"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2887.05,"endTime":2891.64,"body":"possibilities are as unlimited"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2891.64,"endTime":2895.45,"body":"as you are. Allow yourself to"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2891.64,"endTime":2895.45,"body":"shine my friend. The world needs"},{"speaker":"Valerie Friedlander","startTime":2895.45,"endTime":2897.4,"body":"your light. See you next time."}]}