Torpedo Swimtalk Podcast with David Schlicht - ASU swimmer and Australian World Champs representative

If you had the chance to train under Michael Phelps' coach, the legendary Bob Bowman, would you take the chance?

Well our guest on today's Torpedo Swimtalk Podcast did just that!  David Schlicht hails from Melbourne, Australia and finds himself at Arizona State University, under Head Coach Bob, with training partners like Leon Marchand and Ryan Held and on the team who recently came 2nd at the NCAA Div 1 Nationals.

We spoke about the training and culture David is embracing at ASU and the positive impact it is having on his swimming.  And he may have mentioned one of the toughest sets I have heard of. 

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Transcript

Danielle Spurling: 0:04

Hello Swimmers and welcome to another episode of Torpedo Swim Talk podcast. I'm your host, Danielle Spurling, and each week we chat to a swimmer from around the world about their swimming journey. 

Today's guest is David Schlitt, who hails from Melbourne, Australia, but finds himself swimming at Arizona State University for the Sun Devils. He trains under storied head coach, Bob Bowman, with training partners like Ryan Held and Leon Marchand, and the training and culture David is embracing are certainly having a positive impact on his swimming. Let's hear from David now. Hi David, thanks for joining us on the podcast today.

David Schlicht: 0:54

Thank you, Danielle, it's great to be here.

Danielle Spurling: 0:57

Yeah, it's great to have you here, all the way from Arizona. Yeah, what's the weather like over there today?

David Schlicht: 1:04

It's actually a little cloudy and windy and cold today, but yesterday was really nice. It was like high 20s, sunny, like a pretty good spring Arizona day. But today is not that great but so hopefully tomorrow is going to be a lot better.

Danielle Spurling: 1:20

Yeah, you're lucky heading into summer. Melbourne's already hit winter already. It's freezing here today Absolutely a typical Melbourne grey old day. So how does an Aussie guy from Melbourne find himself at ASU? Tell us the road that you took to get there.

David Schlicht: 1:39

Well, initially I was kind of getting reached out by some schools when I was still in high school about coming to college and stuff. I hadn't really given it much thought but I decided just to kind of go with it and just kind of see what kind of available. I wasn't really like taking it too seriously or thinking about it too seriously. I was just talking to different schools and seeing like what's out there really. And then I got and then I started getting a lot more serious. I took a trip out to America to visit a few schools and then I eventually chose University of Arizona to go to initially and I went there for three semesters and then I transferred to ASU and yeah, that's pretty much how I ended up at ASU really.

Danielle Spurling: 2:43

What made you transfer across?

David Schlicht: 2:46

I think just the direction I thought the program was going in. I just thought that I needed somewhere a bit more competitive to train it. So that was like a big factor for me. And then I already knew like a couple people at ASU and I was speaking to them initially as well in my recruiting process And I really liked the school then and that got a lot better between that while that time I was at U of A, so I was really close by, i really enjoyed the Arizona weather, so that was like a big thing where I was thinking about. And then obviously, you know, having Bob and stuff like that, and then Leon was coming in that year, kind of like before he became like Leon everyone knows now, but like he was still faster before then. So that was like a big pull then. And then, yeah, and then now it's kind of the ASU that is really going amazing at the moment.

Danielle Spurling: 3:55

Yeah, absolutely. Is that why you're listed as a red shirt junior? because you transferred universities?

David Schlicht: 4:03

No, so I did a semester. So I did my first semester at U of A and then I red shirted for the Olympics so I came back and I swam back and showed it for a year. So that's why I don't picture.

Danielle Spurling: 4:16

So that will go off your.

David Schlicht: 4:19

So you'll finish being a red shirt at the end of this semester and then just No that's like it's kind of just like a title because I took a year off, so it's just like older than like the normal, like a one year older than like the normal class of people.

Danielle Spurling: 4:36

Right, okay, i get it. It's very confusing for Australians, i think the whole US college system so it's good to have you explain it.

David Schlicht: 4:44

Yeah, it is confusing, but then, like once you're around, it gets quite similar. But I remember going through it all like I had no idea about anything.

Danielle Spurling: 4:53

So was it easy to swap your academic across from University of Arizona to ASU?

David Schlicht: 5:01

I kind of changed my major because I'm doing construction management at the moment and that's what I wanted to do like the whole time. but they didn't offer that at U of A, so I was just doing, i was doing civil engineering there And then. so then I, when I came here, i changed it to construction management. So there was like a little bit of like losing a few credits or like classes that I've done like don't really count towards my degree. So I kind of like fell a bit behind, but like it's all good now. But yeah, it wasn't too too much of an issue really.

Danielle Spurling: 5:37

Yeah, that's good. And what's this past week been like since the success the team had at the NCAAs? How's that felt around campus?

David Schlicht: 5:46

Yeah it's great. I mean around campus. I'm not sure really how like the broader college like feels about like the normal student base, but I know the swim team were all like super pumped And when we got to the airport, some security guard he came up and talked to me and like he was obviously following it. So that was like really cool Because generally you like come back obviously because we're not one of the biggest sports, like you don't really think that too many people are going to be fine. But that was cool that like some from the public just like kind of congratulated us like straight away And yeah, it's just a massive achievement for our program Since we got cut like 15 years ago So we've really been able to bring it back from like no programs and now getting second. So yeah, it's been amazing really. All right, there's something I thought like after my first couple years in college. I kind of like thought like oh, like watching other teams like you like win and stuff like that And we'll come in like like 12 or 14, stuff like that. So I kind of like thought like, oh, like that's never really going to like happen in like my college like time whatever. And I was like fine just coming in the teams and stuff like that. So it's been really cool to like see that to be able like where that's like now my team yeah, and me too, so that's been really good and fun. Yes, it's cool how quickly things can change really.

Danielle Spurling: 7:20

I mean you all look. I mean in the photos I've seen you all look like a really tight group of guys on the team. Obviously, your training and we'll talk about that in a moment is on another level. But what makes you such a close team who do a lot of sort of team activities outside of the pool together?

David Schlicht: 7:39

Yeah, i mean like a lot of people like we all not everyone on the team but like there's like certain sections like we're all living together, so the fresh and like live together, and then because they're all in the dorms, and then there's like different houses, that people are still in different like apartments and stuff like that. So everyone's spending a little time with each other and then, yeah, most weekends we're doing stuff together or I don't know just got. I think we all just really vibe really well as a group. There's like no, there's like no beef between anyone or like everyone's just like really mesh and we're really close mates And we all actually really want to see the best and for each other and see everyone else like have success.

Danielle Spurling: 8:24

Yeah, it looks exciting, it really does And on a personal level, you won the consolation final of the 400 IN Talk us through that race, because that congratulations, that's amazing. Yeah, that's great.

David Schlicht: 8:36

Yeah Yeah, that was cool. Like there was a little disappointing in that heats, like missing out on the A final. I knew I had to go faster than after the swim, I don't know, i was just like and like watching my split, so it's like.

Danielle Spurling: 8:51

I know.

David Schlicht: 8:52

I could be faster than that, but I don't know. Just like once I'm like whenever I'm in the beef on, my like goal is to try and like win, just because I know how badly like like the points very in like the beef on you can get, you get one coming last, or like nine for first. So my goal is to always at least try and win it or like get as close to winning as I can. So, going to the race, i had a pretty I think I was pretty like relaxed mindset, like I wasn't really feeling like scared or like nervous You might be before, like before I am like I was pretty confident and and focused I'd say like pretty focused on just like what I had to do And just taking my focuses on each kind of leg like as they came, just really concentrating on that and then, yeah, and then just really getting to the freestyle and just trying to get my hand on the wall first, which I just did, which was just good.

Danielle Spurling: 9:55

Was that a PB for you?

David Schlicht: 9:58

Yeah, I did like a I think I was about like a second and a half PB, so that was really good.

Danielle Spurling: 10:03

Yeah, and am I right in saying that that was that would have got you about seventh in the in the A final.

David Schlicht: 10:11

If I was in and I did that, i think I would have got fifth. Oh well, yeah yeah thank you.

Danielle Spurling: 10:17

That's great. So when you, when you talk about each 100 that you look at, are you sort of, what are you thinking to yourself in, like starting off with butterfly? Are you doing stroke count? Are you thinking about your stroke?

David Schlicht: 10:30

This meet. I was kind of thinking about my pressure in my under water kicks and just counting those out. I was just doing five of each wall and just yeah, i was using that to kind of set up my swim because I think a couple of my previous races like I haven't really had enough, i've like kind of gone away on my pressure in my underwater kick. So I was kind of focusing to maintain that and then just trying to keep set like throwing my hands forward at the front of my right front of my stroke for the fly. And then backstroke. I got to make sure I kind of do as much underwater as I can because that's my weakest stroke so I kind of the least amount of backstroke swimming I can get away with is the best thing. And then I could I'm just focusing on trying to keep my right up in backstroke and make sure, yeah, my like catch, trying to catch as much water as I can. And then breaststroke I was trying to rate up a lot more because I kind of get stuck sometimes in yards being able to like get enough stroke, getting getting a high enough stroke out each lap, because sometimes I fall into like doing five and then I can't kind of like I got reaching that next gear because I'm stuck with the Maastricht against. So I was trying to push that a bit, which I was able to do really well, and then tree style was more just being stronger in the first 50 because that helps me set up my second one a lot better. I think I did all that pretty well, so I was quite happy with that.

Danielle Spurling: 12:14

And what do you think you can improve on from that race, that sort of information that you've got now for your next 400 IM?

David Schlicht: 12:22

Just looking at the times that my splits I was doing, i definitely know I can go out faster in my fly. So that's something I'm going to try and work on. Could be maybe keeping my rate a bit higher and fly, and then I think definitely my freestyle and brush stroke, I think all of them. I think I can go a bit faster in, but I haven't really given it too much thought yet, but I just know definitely I can drop up some time in the butterfly.

Danielle Spurling: 12:54

Yeah, and I know obviously with the NCAA's finishing last week, training's going to be a bit different now. but take us back to sort of two months before last week, And what was the training week looking like then?

David Schlicht: 13:11

It wasn't like the hardest training that we do, but it's still quite hard. We're doing nine sessions in the pool and three in the gym. We go double Monday, single Tuesday with gym as well, and then double Wednesday. Thursday is the same as Tuesday, double Friday and then Saturday morning with gym. Monday is kind of just a general Monday. Morning is kind of just like a general wake up, a bit of a bit of rowy stuff Actually. No, two months ago we would be doing power work. So we're in like the back pool, connected to the buckets, doing vertical kick. I'm not sure if we were doing like assisted chords yet or not, but towards the end we had them doing fins and pals work, some cool stuff, just focusing on our main stroke and making sure that we are working our power. And then Wednesday afternoon I've been going with the sprint group and I've been doing some breaststroke work, kind of like 200 breaststroke work. And then Tuesday back with Bob's group and it would be some kind of IM or backstroke or breaststroke type variation of a set. That would be long course and that's generally pretty hard. Wednesday morning could be it varies a little bit weeks, weeks, but it's probably more like a recovery morning, but still quite high volume. So it could be like a six or seven K just keep going through until you're done. Wednesday night would be main stroke speed type work, so it could be to send hundreds breaststroke or fifties breaststroke like that. We had some set where it was like three fifties on 35, like best average. And then we had I think two seventy fives are easy, maybe on a minute something, and that was three rounds or four rounds of that and that was suited. So kind of doing kind of sets like that, like where we're under fatigue and trying to keep our race stroke together. Thursday could either be that could be a recovery session if we didn't have Wednesday as a recovery session or again that would be some kind of IM-ish type of set long course. Friday morning is power again. It's the same as Monday morning. Friday afternoon would be normally pretty relaxed but pretty kind of basic, just doing, keeping cool and swimming, like kind of various week to week. And then Saturday is generally just a typical Saturday for everyone, really, and that's normally long course.

Danielle Spurling: 16:05

It's great that you can move the pools between yards and long course, and do you do short course meters at all, or is it all in yards and long?

David Schlicht: 16:14

course We've done one short course meters practice. That time in this entire time I've been here, but that's just because we had a triathlon meet and they submit short meters, So that's why. But we normally just go yards and then long course.

Danielle Spurling: 16:29

What do you prefer?

David Schlicht: 16:31

I mean, I prefer to train in yards and racing yards, but if I could pick which one I'd be better at, it would probably be long course.

Danielle Spurling: 16:39

Yeah, it just it always seems just so far, doesn't it long course?

David Schlicht: 16:44

Yeah, yeah, yes, i know, Especially once we've done yards for so long.

Danielle Spurling: 16:50

Exactly exactly. I know you just mentioned Bob. What's it like training under Bob Bowman?

David Schlicht: 16:56

Yeah, it's really good. I mean, it's you. Just I feel like you get a lot of confidence training under him just because he's so confident in what he's doing and so knowledgeable. And just you know, I remember last year he would tell us to do these sets and people who might ask, like why like this, whatever he's, like, well, i've done this a hundred times and you go fast, like if you do this set, so like go do that. So there's like stuff like that where I know he just he's so I don't know like kind of the word to describe it just so I would say just confident in like he just knows, like what to do and he knows exactly, like like any any knows, that it's going to work as well. So I feel like that's a different aspect to it than a few of the other coaches I've worked with. They might be like, oh, like we'll do this and hopefully like this works in the end, or they might give off that kind of vibe about it. But yeah, not with him, it's just complete confidence which I just come in and just I don't even have to really think about like if it's going to work or stuff like that. I just go in and just do the set really, and I just know that it's going to be good in the end.

Danielle Spurling: 18:07

Is he always on pool deck working with different athletes on the team, or does he oversee other coaches?

David Schlicht: 18:15

He works or all split up in different groups. So there's a D group and then there's like a male spring group, that's with Goebbie, and then Rachel and Derek take mainly all the females and that's like sprint and more of mid-distance group. And then Bob, he takes the like I am mid-distance, i am like two fly, two back, two ish free, five free type guys. So he really, and then a lot of the pros as well, work with Bob. Unless they're like sprinters, like Ryan Held, he's always with Herbie. So Bob really works a lot with us mainly. And then I know he helps. I see him like helping Logan out who's the distance group coach a bit. I'm not sure exactly like if he's talking a lot to Rachel and Derek, but I'm sure it will be. And then I don't think he's really like telling Herbie what to do with his practices, because Herbie's kind of got his own way of doing it which is working a lot, but I know they both work together. In terms of how much, maybe we should be tapering before me and figuring all that kind of stuff out.

Danielle Spurling: 19:34

I mean, he's such a legend in the sport, What do you think you've? I know you said he's very confident, but what have you taken away from his coaching that you find the most valuable?

David Schlicht: 19:47

I would say, like if I was to go on coaching and I was to like kind of mimic, or like if I was to put something that he does like into my training, i'll probably say probably doing like a really really hard set like every now and then, just to kind of help people mentally, then wrap their heads around sets that are hard But like they're not the hardest sets like ever, or like they're like you wrap your head around like a 4am, which is like obviously a really hard race, but knowing that you've done a lot of the training, a lot of hard, you've done harder stuff like before, that I think that's a really big thing. That's kind of helped me.

Danielle Spurling: 20:32

Absolutely. It must be amazing for you surrounded by all these amazing athletes. Leon had a fantastic NCAAs himself And is a great I am swimmer. It must be wonderful for you training alongside him.

David Schlicht: 20:46

Yeah, it is. I mean, I'm not often really right up next to him, a few body links back. So yeah, just seeing someone like that is is really amazing And it's kind of just almost like jaw dropping in a sense to like see someone like that good at something that I would think that I'm quite good at as well, and just seeing someone is like literally on like a level I can't even like comprehend. We've got a lot of other really really good swimmers in the group, so always like getting pushy for having like a good day. I'm like close up there with Leon and a few of the other pros, or if I'm not having the greatest day, it's probably someone else who's not having a good day. We're kind of like in the same kind of spot, so there's always somewhere. I kind of like flow between all of that throughout the week. So it's kind of good like that. We've got a lot of people there.

Danielle Spurling: 21:49

How many pros do you have in the program?

David Schlicht: 21:52

In, just in out of, like everyone, like even spring group or something like that.

Danielle Spurling: 21:56

Yeah, yeah, across the whole men's program.

David Schlicht: 22:00

We have Chase J, reagan Haley, simone Olivia Ryan we have seven, and Xandas we have eight at the moment, i think Wow, so that's.

Danielle Spurling: 22:14

that's getting into a pretty big group now, isn't it?

David Schlicht: 22:18

Yeah, and I've got a feeling that there's probably going to be a few more. I know I think Grant is going to end up because he's done with college. I'm assuming he's going to be pro, and another guy, max McCussey, he's going to go pro as well. So there's at least 10 from the people who are already training here. Right And that doesn't count if other people maybe will come as well.

Danielle Spurling: 22:40

Yeah, for sure. So now the NCAAs are finished, what does training look like for you now? So what happens, and are you coming back to Australia for the World titles trials?

David Schlicht: 22:54

Yeah. I'm coming back to that in June. In terms of like training, it's pretty much the same as we were doing before NCs really, like in the whole season. not much really changes in terms of that much. It's just a little bit more long course. Right, it's focused. I guess. So doing we'll be doing more of our quality sessions long course rather than doing them yards, just to get that practicing, and then we'll be going. There's a group of us that's going to go to the Olympic Training Center in May, which is that altitude, and then off the back of that our plan is then to come back to Melbourne and do trials.

Danielle Spurling: 23:35

Yeah, So when you come back here? I know you used to swim with NLC Aquatic, but who would you train with when you come back?

David Schlicht: 23:45

I've been working with Craig Jackson at Melbourne Vic Center a lot over the past summer. I was doing a couple of sessions at NLC and then I think I was doing like three sessions at NLC or two sessions And then I was doing all the rest with Craig. Yeah, i've been working with doing that because I guess at the hub there's not too many other places really to train where there's people my age anymore.

Danielle Spurling: 24:16

I know.

David Schlicht: 24:18

So yeah, so that's what I did last summer, And then I was working with Craig in the lead up to World Short Course and during that meet too. So, yeah, my plan is just to kind of continue doing that.

Danielle Spurling: 24:31

Yeah, i kind of feel like a lot of the pro swimming in Melbourne has been desecrated because everyone's moved to Queensland.

David Schlicht: 24:38

So there's not much left down here at the moment.

Danielle Spurling: 24:41

I suppose it's in a build up phase again.

David Schlicht: 24:44

Yeah, I know. So, hopefully we can build up a couple more swimmers to get it kind of alive again.

Danielle Spurling: 24:51

Talking about the worlds, in Melbourne before Christmas you had a great swim in the final of the 400. I am How was that, racing in front of your family and friends?

David Schlicht: 25:03

Yeah, that was really good. That's definitely probably my career highlight, i think, at the moment, and that's definitely something that I've like, because I've made World Short Course before and I didn't make it back. I just remember coming off that meet being like, oh, like it was like cool that I made like the team and like I was so pumped like to do that, like that was a massive tick for like things I want to do. And then when I was at the meet, i remember just kind of feeling almost like you know, like I was like there and I made the team and I like swam, but like I didn't make it back to the finals. I kind of felt like I wasn't really like swimming it like I don't know, like I didn't really like really like swim the meet, i guess, in a sense, even though So this this time around was like a massive goal for me just to make it back. Especially, i know there was a lot of people coming that said I'd like to come watch me. So I wanted to make sure that I was actually swimming, they actually see me. So that was really good. I was up to get that time, so I was really proud that I was able to do that.

Danielle Spurling: 26:14

Yeah, it was a good race And I thought your breaststroke leg was so, so strong in that race. How did you feel about those four legs of the medley?

David Schlicht: 26:25

My morning swim was definitely a lot stronger. I just remember in the fly I had Matt Sates and I forget the Italian guy next to me, both just like way out in front and butterfly. So I remember in that I was just thinking I was like, oh, this is going to be a long race. There was definitely a lot of things I could have done better. I mean it wasn't really like a bad swim per se. It's not like, yeah, i swam terrible, but yeah, i was just more really happy that I was just able to be in the race, to be honest, and then I was able to at least be one of the guys in the race.

Danielle Spurling: 27:06

So I was quite happy. Did you find it hard swimming finals at night when it was so cold outside? Because it was a pretty cold week that week in Melbourne.

David Schlicht: 27:16

Not really. I mean, we've done a lot of states when it's been cold, sometimes like during then as well. So I feel like I've done a few me's, like a true wise, where it's been quite chilly And I mean it's really like if you just keep all your clothes on to rub for you on the blocks, then you're not really going to feel the cold too much.

Danielle Spurling: 27:44

Yeah, yeah for sure. And did the team sort of gel together for that meet the Australian team? they look like they're all pretty tight. Yeah, i think so.

David Schlicht: 27:54

I think definitely, as the meet kind of went on and we had a bit few more shared experiences, because obviously the training, like the staging camp, wasn't as long as cover the other teams this year, i think, as kind of the meet went along, we all kind of bonded a lot more. So, yeah, i thought we're a really good group.

Danielle Spurling: 28:17

Yeah, you look like you're all having lots of fun.

David Schlicht: 28:20

Yeah, it was definitely fun.

Danielle Spurling: 28:22

Yeah, for sure. And will you stay on at ASU for your senior year?

David Schlicht: 28:28

Yeah, so I got one new left And, yes, i finished that off and then head back home.

Danielle Spurling: 28:37

Yeah, so you wouldn't stay on and train with the pro group.

David Schlicht: 28:43

That's not my plan at the moment. I think just it's a little bit harder to stay on than just like wanting to stay on, like having to get like work visas and different kind of logistical stuff with like the government. So yeah, probably I've been away from home for a while, so it's kind of kind of feeling like it's always like time just to come back.

Danielle Spurling: 29:08

Yeah, i understand. I just wanted to ask you a little bit about the work that you do in the gym. You have obviously probably a strength and conditioning coach attached to ASU. Is it all strength work in the gym, or do you do Pilates? Do you do stuff on the Wattbike? How does that all work?

David Schlicht: 29:26

It's mainly just normal kind of gym strength stuff. I know back home we do a bit more like kind of Pilates like involved and things like that, But here it's mainly just kind of working through like different lists and the actual just strength side of it really.

Danielle Spurling: 29:48

Yeah, do you enjoy working out in the gym, or would you rather be in the pool?

David Schlicht: 29:53

I do enjoy working out in the gym, but it doesn't make me very tired.

Danielle Spurling: 29:58

I know.

David Schlicht: 29:59

When I'm in the pool. So I think once I've quit swimming I'll probably try a bit more in the gym. But I think at the moment I kind of just try and get through it without making myself too tired, so I'm not wrecked when I jump in the water, jump in the water, yeah.

Danielle Spurling: 30:19

What are your sort of tips for recovery in between your sessions? What do you?

David Schlicht: 30:24

do Sleep really and just chill, like conserve as much energy as possible. Really, trainings here is pretty hard and we do a lot of volume. So I think recovery is probably something I need to try and actually improve a little bit, because this semester has probably been my like most inconsistent like block of good training that I've done. So I think that's actually probably an area that I try and do something a bit better.

Danielle Spurling: 30:58

Yeah, it's hard, though, when you're studying as well.

David Schlicht: 31:01

Yeah, trying to work at work school around that, trying to maybe like time meals or bring meals with you. Sometimes, like I have to like leave right off the swim and then go to gym and then have to like go straight to my class that we're fucking out half. So it's like go to try and I'll have to like bring food to them, like while I'm walking to class, or try and like eat my lunch so that it's like not too long before I'm eating. Then sometimes I have like class until like six o'clock, so it's kind of like draining, like having a like a really long day and then having class like till the end of quite late, to then like come home and then have enough energy to like want to cook dinner and do all that kind of stuff that living at home you don't really have to think about.

Danielle Spurling: 31:56

Yeah For sure I know. Well, that's yeah. that's a good thing of living at home, isn't it? Someone else is cooking all your meals for you.

David Schlicht: 32:05

I know.

Danielle Spurling: 32:07

Look, everyone that comes on the podcast. I do a little deep dive five questions for them. So I wanted to ask you your favorite breaststroke drill.

David Schlicht: 32:17

One that. I've kind of done a lot is just breaststroke with butterfly kick, but I feel like that's probably not the greatest breaststroke drill. I normally did that just to save my shins really. But I would say there's a drill we do with barbers like a single arm pull while you do your normal and then you do a double and then you like again with the single. I think that's really good for getting feel for the cash, so that's another one that I really like. I think it's probably a bit more useful.

Danielle Spurling: 32:55

Yeah, are you kicking at the same time as doing that, or you want to pull boy in?

David Schlicht: 33:00

No, yeah, just doing normal breaststroke, but like not using one arm and just alternating that.

Danielle Spurling: 33:06

Yeah, what's your favorite competition pull?

David Schlicht: 33:09

Well, that's a good one? I don't know. I really like soap act and Adelaide. I think they're two really good pools, obviously the outdoor and that pool I've done a lot of racing in, had a lot of success there, so that's good. But the outside of it's probably not good all year round. So I'd probably say yes, soap act or Adelaide.

Danielle Spurling: 33:31

Yeah Okay, both nice pools. What's your favorite pre-race meal?

David Schlicht: 33:40

I normally just have like a banana and a music bar, to be honest, before, like every practice and like each time I race, since that's probably my go to.

Danielle Spurling: 33:50

Yeah, do you sort of load up on protein after you've trained?

David Schlicht: 33:57

I don't know, i don't really think too much about like I need so this much amount of carbs or this much amount of protein. Like in the gym. There's a like we have like protein recovery shape or like milk drinks or something like that, like we'll go and get, but it's not really something that's in the forefront of my mind after she's trained or just eating something.

Danielle Spurling: 34:23

Understood What's your favorite exercise in the gym.

David Schlicht: 34:28

I would say probably cleans or bench press.

Danielle Spurling: 34:33

Nice, what do you bench press?

David Schlicht: 34:37

My best ever is 280 pounds, so that's 127.

Danielle Spurling: 34:47

Wow, that's good, well done.

David Schlicht: 34:51

Yeah, i haven't done it for a very long time, so yeah, but so I'd say my current, probably favorite, would be clean, just cause that's what we do a lot of here And that's always fun.

Danielle Spurling: 35:03

And what's your favorite individual mentally training set? Well, I should maybe I shouldn't say favorite What's the hardest one you've ever done.

David Schlicht: 35:10

The hardest one. Wow, there's a lot of a lot of hard ones Probably. There's this Bob calls it the Janet Evans that it's like. It goes like a hundred easy On like a short rest interval, maybe like 120 or something, and then it goes for 200, i am's, maybe on three minutes and they descend, and then it goes 200 on 240 easy, and then three, 200, i am one, maybe either five or 10 seconds faster interval. Those are to send one, three, but you have to start faster than the fourth one off on the previous. Then it's a 300 easy, and then you have to two, two items and then three and then 400 easy and then 200 I max, and those intervals keep getting down faster and faster. You have to keep getting faster. So that's.

Danielle Spurling: 36:09

That was a tough one.

David Schlicht: 36:12

Anything where there's like a lot of butterfly is hard.

Danielle Spurling: 36:16

If you're doing hundreds of fly long course.

David Schlicht: 36:18

That's quite hard, i'd say. My favorite ones is it'd be probably like eight, fifties, one of the two of each on, let's say, like 50 or a minute. That's probably do more. So, like in taper, and that's always fun to kind of just read that of a max. Yeah, they're either be max or they might be like four dry pace, something like that. I always like doing broken suited stuff, like in taper, like a four jam or broken. I really like those kind of sets.

Danielle Spurling: 36:58

Yeah, they sound good. Well, David, thank you so much for joining us on the podcast today. It's been lovely connecting with you and hearing all about your experience at ASU and wishing you the best of luck for the world titles trials coming up this year.

David Schlicht: 37:13

Thank you. Thank you so much for having me.

Danielle Spurling: 37:15

Yep, you're welcome. Okay, take care Bye, bye, take care bye.

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