Get Ready For The 2024 Outdoor Adventure Show with Fred Cox!

Another great chat with the Grand Pooba of The Outdoor Adventure Show!
We highlight a handful of presenters from an absolutely stellar list across 3 stages. Tim chides Fred for putting the whitewater demo pool between the 2 stages he'll be trying to sprint back and forth from.

Our chat ranges from epic trips all over the world, to bucket list tripping, to cool exhibitors, to e-bikes, to sightings of some of our favourite content creators.

The show starts in Toronto on Feb 23-25, followed by shows in Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal. Get all the info & tickets here: https://outdooradventureshow.ca/toronto-visitor

And, if you'd like to hear some of the origin story of The Show, you can catch the video here: https://youtu.be/ZFeC5UqqPlA
Or the podcast here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1490065/12208241

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Transcript

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Hello, and good day, eh?

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Welcome to the Super Good Camping Podcast. My name is Pamela.

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I'm Tim.

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And we are from supergoodcamping.com.

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We're here because we're on a mission to inspire other families to enjoy camping adventures

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such as we have with our kids.

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Today's guest is a returning one.

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He's the owner of Canada's largest showcase of outdoor gear and adventure travel experiences,

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AKA the Outdoor Adventure Show.

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Please welcome back Fred Cox.

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Woo hoo. Hey. Thank you. You're welcome, Fred. Thank you very much.

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Oh, thanks for coming back, man. Yeah. It's

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You must have so much on your plate at eh? moment. I can imagine.

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You know what? This is so nice because I feel like we're, we're old friends now, and we just

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met at the show last year.

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Like, we did the the first podcast, which eh?, that's amazing how this technology, can connect us.

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And and so I felt like when I did see you at the show that, that eh?, it was like seeing old

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friends and, and I could see, you know, also most importantly, which is really cool to me to

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see people who are so ingrained in the outdoor adventure industry like yourselves be super excited

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with the kind of things that you that you were finding at the show.

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And and you were good enough to, to give us some t shirts for myself and our staff as well,

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which we were proudly on some different eh?. And, but no.

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So it's, it's really good to be back here.

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Yeah, almost a full year later from when we last saw you at the show and to talk about what's

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been happening in in your world.

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And I've seen such great things from your your podcast.

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You've had your hundredth episode as well. Right?

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Yeah. We're, yeah, we're we're approaching a buck 20 a buck.

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My god. Yeah. And, Yeah.

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Did you ever play bagpipes?

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I know that was part of one of the short that you were gonna maybe play bagpipes on there somewhere.

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Was that when you're getting really desperate and you you got me on instead?

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Is that what you did?

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Yeah. Yeah. No bagpipes. No bagpipes.

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It's it's the it's the plaid skirt wearing thing.

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I I would play the bagpipes if I didn't have to wear the plaid skirts.

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Oh, I've heard you've worn dresses before.

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Yes. Day. That's a different view on

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the list. Pictures, I'm sure, Pamela.

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I swear I burnt them off.

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Well, it's and and just just quickly to to that point, the that's one of the I I would go to your I don't care.

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I would go to your show.

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Like, it's one of the highlights of my year.

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But, obviously, backcountry camping or or but but, like, man, I love going the outdoor adventure show.

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I I'm I'm looking forward to it by, like, you know, November.

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And the cool one of the coolest things is it is such a for whatever reason, eh? because a whole

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bunch of them are there or presenting or eh?, but the content creators, like, holy mackerel.

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You can't turn a corner without running into somebody from from YouTube or somebody from Instagram or eh?.

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And they're all there for all those all those amazing reasons.

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So it you you feed you feed something that we all seem to need.

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Eh?, that's yeah. And and to make some of those connections, like, as I've as I've watched some

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of your your podcasts over the past year and what have you and and eh? YouTube cast.

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It's, it's really cool for me to hear things like, you know, when you had Alex and Jess on from Tents and Timber.

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And, and I heard that you met them at the Outdoor Adventure Show.

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And, and sort of, so so to to bring that up throughout the year and to hear that some of those

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connections get made, between between all of you who have, I think, a similar mission of of

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sharing your stories and sharing the best of the outdoors and tips and and inspirations and

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making connections on, on people who love the things that that, that we all love.

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And, and there is so many different aspects to the Outdoor Adventure Show, and to the outdoors,

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of course, which is what we're so happy to kinda bring out, and it always it's always fun to

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talk about all the different ways that people adventure travel.

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And and but, yeah, to hear something like that of your your conversation with Alex and Jess,

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and I can tell you as well that, you know, it's and it's one thing I probably eh? too much time

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during the year in different convention centers, as we do all, you know, all of us who who have,

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of course, day jobs and do what we do to to keep ourselves going and keep ourselves inspired,

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which I'm super lucky to do what I do and to to sort of help bring some connections and and

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meet great people like yourselves.

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But I can tell you even from watching that, that Alex and Jess one, to learn about the East

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Coast Trail in Newfoundland, which still I may have talked to you about it last year.

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I'm not sure, but I it was on my list as the only province I haven't done in Canada.

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And, and I think I may have told you I did the West Coast Trail back in eh? I was jeez.

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A few years ago eh?

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I think I was 22 or 23.

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And, but to hear them talk about the East Coast Trail, I can tell you, you have now inspired

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me to put something on my bucket list, to do it really, really soon.

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And when I do Newfoundland, which I've been, again, really keen to do for a long time, the East

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Coast Trail is gonna be top of the list, and I'm gonna certainly look up a bunch of the stuff

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that Tents and Timber did in terms of how they they did their trip and and be able to take some

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things from it, but it really inspired me.

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So I wanna thank you for that.

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So hopefully, we're helping each other here.

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Oh, you're so welcome. And and to that, here live on air Yeah.

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Please please, an extended invitation, come tell us about that trip.

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It'd be interesting just to have the different perspectives of of having done it in probably

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different time frames and that sort of jazz.

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I'm I'm so I think eh?

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I think Alex and Jess are on I think they have two episodes out.

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I think a third episode is about to drop. Yeah.

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And I'm so like it's like, oh, yeah.

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As soon as it comes out, I gotta watch that. That's cool.

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And I've already talked to them about it, but it's so cool.

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Like, what a great what an amazing thing. Yeah.

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No. I think

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so on my bucket list too that that Newfoundland lab Labrador trip has been on bucket list for a while.

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Yeah. Have you been yeah.

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You haven't been to Newfoundland either, have you? The two of you?

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Nope? Not yet. But it definitely good high, high, high in the

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you been east to Nova Scotia or PEI or had some oysters, some, lobsters out there?

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New Brunswick. Yeah. Yeah. PEI and New Brunswick.

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Both of which were amazing. Like, lovely. Lovely provinces, lovely people. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. East Coast people are pretty

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cool. They really are, aren't they? It's, yeah.

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And you really it's it is really cool.

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Again, when we take this country or sorry.

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This this show from coast to coast in the country, out to Vancouver and and into Calgary and and Montreal as well.

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And and obviously, we're lucky to have a lot of the same tour groups like Newfoundland, is with

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us in pretty much almost every show. So it's eh?.

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They're kind of almost going pretty much coast to coast, in promoting some of their adventures.

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But you really do get the different flavor of the different of the different regions of the country that we have.

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And that's not to mention, of course, all the other things that we promote worldwide and and,

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and in Northern Canada and even, you know, seminars I was reading today about the Eh? Passage.

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And, but it's really cool exactly to sort of to sort of get connected with the vibe of people.

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And, and I can remember sort of making some great connections with Newfoundland people back

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from our first outdoor adventure shows now twenty seven years ago.

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Stan Cook senior and Stan Cook junior sort of saying, you gotta get out here and do a hey, bye.

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You gotta get out here and do a do a kayak trip. Come join me. Let's go.

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We're gonna go to Penny Harbor. Have a kitchen party.

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It's it was awesome stuff and such awesome people. And, and so yeah.

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So that's, it it it's nice to continue to be inspired and, jeez, there's just so many places

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we all have to hit that, that, yeah.

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Hopefully, these kind of things, you know, eh? us. Yeah.

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As I say, do some little things that you wanna be able to incorporate into your trips and and

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and and just have some connections to people who are gonna have connections at the the actual

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destinations to be able to meet along the way because those connections really go strong.

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And if you have a connection to people again, we've been lucky to have so many people from Newfoundland,

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especially come to our Toronto show, but when they hit the other ones as well, you meet them

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and they really feel like like like family as well.

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So they're gonna be able to, do I know treat us well when eventually, either my wife and I or

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a couple of my kids, get out there and and, and and hit the East Coast Trail. So that'll be exciting.

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Sweet. Yeah. It's I I well, I mean, that was one of the things that that kinda side rail me last year.

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I find myself wandering through the the you had a whole section for the the Newfoundland and

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Labrador, and and I was just, oh, I had no I mean, I knew it it's big, it's cool, it's got all

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the things, but I didn't know what all the things were.

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So I started wandering around.

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It's like, oh, that's two hours. Okay.

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I need to pull back a little bit.

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I've got a few other places to visit.

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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And I saw in one of your other eh? just to decide, your your interview

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with, JKs and Sherry Tuck, Beauty of the Backcountry that's from from Sault Ste. Marie.

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Yeah.

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And, yeah. I was just being told yesterday about one of our presenters from Thrive Tours who's

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also presenting a, exploring nature through indigenous wisdom, which is a Sault Ste. Marie expedition as well.

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And, and just kinda tie in all the indigenous culture and how how they do things differently,

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you know, as that's kinda part of their lifestyle.

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It's not just sort of often sort of what they do for their hobbies and this and that, but it's

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something they, the indigenous culture obviously sees things very different.

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So I think it's kind of a cool topic that, that Brad from Thrive Tours has in, in exploring nature through indigenous wisdom.

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And, and eh?, that's a Sault Steen rebased one, which is, as I say, tied back to, to your talk

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with with with Sherry and Jay who it sounds like they've done some cool adventures as well.

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They've done some very cool adventures. Yeah.

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They're they're we could spend all night talking about all the cool people because they are.

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They're just such everybody everybody is such. Yeah. They're such lovely people. They're such Yeah. Eh? are.

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We're all we're all trying to do the the same thing and get get people out there to care about

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what we do as far as, you know, the outdoor eh?, and eh? therefore take responsibility for caring for the land.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And and it the indigenous so have us beat at all of that that we can all do so much learning from them for sure.

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For sure. They they really do. Yeah.

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I have a a, I have a niece who lives up in Nunavut and is a teacher up eh?.

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And, you know, she went up for your your classic three year contract, you know, not knowing

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if she'd make it probably more than a year and a half.

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And, and now she's, I think, into her fourth year and has a, has a boyfriend up there who's,

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eh? an awesome guy and, and part he's actually half indigenous and half, half, from Newfoundland family as well.

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So it's a really interesting connection from, and and background that he has.

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But he he sort of works in the in the government up there helping to, you know, make things

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as good as they can possibly be.

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But, but to see the to see the the stories from the North up there and and see it firsthand

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from now a family member, up in the North and see how they live and, and that and exactly hearing

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sort of the way they, you know, they have this awesome dog named Tuck who just is a part of

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all of their adventures in minus 43 feet of snow.

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Somehow they figure out their way to get through it and Tuck is the leader and, and and and

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is with them on every journey as they as they, you know, not only canoe through the Arctic waters

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and and kayak through the Arctic waters, but also on all their hiking, which is in some rough

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rough terrain, but the the dogs just take it eh?.

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And and animals are all a part of their their life and the way that they sort of look at things

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in terms of how they eat, how they learn, and the way they look out for each other.

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It's, it's really, really cool to hear, yeah, the generational support, that everybody has and

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how they've taken someone like my niece into their into their families as well and been able

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to, day, you need something? We're here for you.

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And and that really goes for anybody who needs something.

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They really kinda look out for each other and, and as I say, they don't they don't leave anybody

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stranded for for the basics of life. That's for sure.

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So lot to learn up there too.

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Very cool. Nunavut. Wow. Yeah.

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That'd be that would be a different

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experience. Yeah. Exactly. So that's another one on the list.

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So as I day, I gotta I gotta stop staying in the convention centers and get out. Right? Don't we all?

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We do. And or find us the Fountain Of Youth so that we can do this for a much longer time than I expect.

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It's so true. It's so true.

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Yes. We've got connections to all of these amazing adventure things.

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So are there any of those that you have availed yourself of?

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Are there any particular that you really enjoy?

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In terms of, in terms of, all of, yeah.

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Like if

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you, assuming you take small breaks here and there.

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Right? Absolutely. So even, kind of last summer, I guess, yeah.

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And I've it it's all sort of weaved in and out of, my lives, my life, and and and our life as

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a family as my three kids have kinda grown.

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And I still have one in university, but it kind of, you know, we've been and out through various

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forms of kinda car camping when they were young through through eh? more more some tripping

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and what have you as they got a little bit older into their teens and where we could, where

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we could manage it around sports and things like that. But, but yes. No.

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So we still spend a lot of time both in the in the North from a cottaging eh?.

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And also I I do some cottaging in the, in the East on Lake Huron, right on Lake Huron.

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And so I'm right kind of I, do a lot of road cycling over to Eh?

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Park and spend time over there.

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We're gonna put tents on the back, which is only twenty minutes day.

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And so it's really it's really cool.

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And we do the Saugeen River right from there as well, kind of taking that, taking that through,

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when it's when it's appropriate to run that, which it's kind of had some ups and downs years,

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from a water level perspective.

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But the, you know, Tim and Eh?

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Thorne, I used to run, Thorncrest Outfitters.

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We're we're great friends who, sort of, yeah, had some great water adventures. And, and yeah.

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So last summer, it did was into Algonquin just once because that's always usually a staple either

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a either an Algonquin trip of some sort or a Killarney trip.

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You know, I've I've, yeah, hiked Silver Peak more times than I can than I can imagine, which

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is one of my favorite views in the world for sure.

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But, last year, my 81 year old father who was a founder with me of the Outdoor Adventure Show

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and really a a driver behind starting this whole thing, he got together our family, my siblings,

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all of the grandkids of which he has eh?, I believe it is.

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But so I think there was 23 of us in total that he organized to go up to Canoe Lake and, and

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rent canoes and paddle in.

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And this was in the June.

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It was actually Father's Day weekend to to see the moose.

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And, and just because that's sort of the best time to be able to sort of do some some moose watching.

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And, and so to be able to to do that was really cool with all the all the siblings of various

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levels and right up to my 81 year old father who was who was paddling day.

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And we also had with us, my sister who lives up in Eh? and and owns a first aid company, brought

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in a family who she was really helping out from the Ukraine, who just came out of, who just

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literally escaped out of Ukraine and had incredible stories about getting out from the war.

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And, and he was a doctor, a surgeon, and she was high up in the in the nursing sector.

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So both of them high highly medically qualified eh? their two kids who were 10 and 12 at the time.

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And so to to have them, you know, drop into canoes and and paddle up Canoe Lake and, you know,

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pass Wapameo and and up towards Joe Lake, you know, the the the simple basics of Algonquin Park.

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But to see the beauty of it from the eyes of and and and hear stories of what's going on in

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another part of the world from, you know, from a family from the Ukraine, that was really cool

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for our family to be able to bring them in and just to know how lucky we are to to have each

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other and have the safety and freedoms that we have as Canadians.

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And, and to be able to see again through through a whole family's eyes from the Ukraine of what

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what Canada has to offer from from just a northern adventure to be able to see their eyes when

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you when you, when you all eh? turn the corner and, and you see a family of moose. It's, it's pretty incredible.

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You know, that's kinda one of those Canadian adventures that you never get tired of and you

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never get eh? awe inspired of, but to to see it from a family from the Ukraine with what they're

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going through right now was was really kind of really neat, like a cool experience.

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So that was, sort of, that was one short trip that I got to do amongst, amongst a few others

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in the in the last year.

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But, yeah, they kinda got me certainly into the into the North.

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That would be that would be very satisfying to be able to to be able to good.

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Here's something that I don't we don't necessarily take for granted, but is totally accessible

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to us anytime we want, whatever whatever.

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And and I'd like to share this because we know this is amazing stuff. Yeah.

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We'd

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like to share this with you. Yeah. And that that that's

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Yeah. It's yeah. That was cool. Yeah.

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As I say, just just good to get the generations together and, and be able to share that because

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those are sort of, yeah, pictures and memories that you that you love.

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And usually, you do it with sort of smaller groups.

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But to have, you know, some people who aren't necessarily into the outdoors, as much or haven't

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done it in terms of some newer nieces and nephews and boyfriends and and girlfriends and things like that.

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You know, you just never know, you know, who you're inspiring to, to do more of it and continue

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to, share those kind of things with each other.

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So it's a it's a spirit that that doesn't go away when you see those things for sure.

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Cool. Well, here's here's hoping I'm I'm still able to paddle at

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81. Man, that's awesome. That that's

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so I I just I what we can talk about camping stories all night long.

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But but I I'm eh?. So I'm I'm sorry.

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I'm pointing at I've got all the Yes. The stage stuff

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Mhmm.

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And highlighted because I'm only coming on Saturday.

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Okay.

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So I've I've highlighted shows that I'm gonna sprint back and forth from between the, the paddling

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stage and the eh? of Canada stage and probably get sidetracked.

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If it's laid out like last year, I'll get sidetracked by the whitewater demo pool as I run past it. Yep.

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So you're an evil man for saying.

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What, that must be so cool to have such an amazing pool of talent that that that wants to come

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in and yak to your yak yak to the crowds. Like, I don't know. I'm blown away.

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You've got you've got, you know, Kevin Cowell and, Hap Wilson, Camper Christine. Yeah.

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You have the two two new lads, which I I thumbs to you. You eh? Ben Beauchamp Yes. And, Evan Evan Lafave. Awesome up e commerce. Good. Day.

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Yes. Glad you approve. Eh? crowd,

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like, all the things, man. How cool is that?

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You know, we yeah. We're really, really lucky to, yeah, to have created what we create and have

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such a group of people that really love to be, a part of it.

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And and I think things like we're doing here, you know, and social media has made this so much

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better because so many more people can get exposed to the stories that all of these people,

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you know, twenty years ago, they weren't able to share this stuff unless they properly wrote

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a book and found a publisher and and someone stumbled upon it and and shared it over campfires.

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Whereas now, the way we can, you know, and that's that's the been the interesting part of the

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evolution of the whole show is, you know, and we may have talked about this last year, but the

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whole evolution of show business when you, you know, when we did see the Eh? come along and

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then everything else that you can find online, you kinda say, oh my good, why does why do people

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need to still come and get together?

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But the exact opposite has happened where it's made superstars out of people in every single industry.

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And that includes obviously the outdoor adventure and the paddling and and, and camping industries

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where you have superstars within this genre.

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And, and I'm sure, you know, I'm I'm sure people are recognizing you all over the show as well, which is super cool. But, yeah. And you're Weird. Yeah. Yeah. I know.

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I I I I eh?.

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But it's, but that's been the the great thing that the followers that they and it's really been

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circular where hopefully it's it's also helped the other things that they are doing, to be able

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to allow the people who make, you know, who earn a living by this.

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You know, doing this has given them some other some other forms to be able to spread their message

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and and highlight some of their sponsors and allow them to do what they do on a, on a full time basis.

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But the fact that we can, you know, yeah, help reach their followers and be able to give a chance for people.

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I think at the perfect time of year at the February when everyone's just starting to say, okay,

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what am I gonna do next year?

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And what am I gonna do this summer coming up eh??

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And and, you know, what's on my list?

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They've just passed the new year in terms of saying, great.

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Here's what I wanna do with myself.

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But, to be able to come and talk to the people and you can you can really see you see it in

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the eyes and you hear in the voices of the Kevin Callans and Camper Christina who's been and

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these people are just so committed to things.

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Like, Camper Christina, Crystal Eh?, who's our show manager for the entire outdoor adventure circuit.

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She does an awesome job for us.

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Our shows are completely sold out right across the country, by the way.

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So we've, literally, there's not an exhibit booth in all four cities across the country, which

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I can say never happens.

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Usually, we've been always able to find a space for someone here and eh?, but literally short

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of hanging people from the rafters, we don't have any space for any more exhibitors, which which is a great thing.

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It's also a problem that we'd love to have some more, but the halls are only so big.

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Like, the hall that you met us in and and you'll see us in at the Outdoor Adventure Show.

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It's the largest hall that they have, you know, at the International Center.

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So it's, you know, we'll we'll see about expansion in the future ones.

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But eh?, Crystal does such a great job, and she came in this morning and she's like, I was on

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the phone with camper Christina, you know, from ten till midnight last night, you know, because

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Christina is so excited about some of the things that she's got coming, eh? she's making, you

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know, providing some backdrop displays for us.

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So people like that you see that are just so committed.

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And she's got a million things going on but she's to see people like her so excited about the show.

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And, Adam Schultz, hopefully, was he on your is he on your list to check out?

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He he's on my list but I think he's on a different day because it was like, oh, crap.

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Eh?, I can only come out on the Saturday, Thomas and I. Okay.

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Somebody's gonna be in Eh?.

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So Wow. Good on you. There you go. That's that's okay too.

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I will be doing some scuba and Caribbean adventures.

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Ah. There you go.

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We're going spearfishing. Spearfishing. Going spearfishing.

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Which part of Mexico? From

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eh? we're arriving in Cancun, but we're staying at Playa Del Carmen.

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Oh, yes. I figured that's kinda some of the best stuff down there. Right? That's great. Yeah. But no.

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So, Adam is on the Saturday, so you will be able to catch that, if you're,

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at

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on the Adventures In Paddling Stage, and that's gonna be Oh, there it is.

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But that's gonna be, let me look at this here. Yeah. That's The same time

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as Kevin.

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Eh? in the best of Canada. Yeah.

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Which is, we may have to fix that.

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So now that I now that I look at that one because he should be, yeah. Yeah.

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We're gonna have to play with that actually now that I look at this.

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I'm glad we are because I it's amazing all the different, all the different schedules that we have to put together. But, yeah, you're right.

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So Kevin's, Kevin is on a he's on another day as well. But, but yeah.

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So that's we're gonna play with that because yeah.

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Because Adam's I mean, Kevin's always more than a sold out show. That's for sure. But, but Adam's And

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I'm sure Adam with his eh?, like, he's gonna be a he's gonna be a massive drop

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too. It's 3,400 kilometer, canoe. Yeah.

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It's from Lake Erie to the Arctic.

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Some of the some of the videos from that is is really neat. So

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Mind boggling stuff. I know. It's, yeah.

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And then your your friend Dennis Rogers will be on at 03:30, you see, on the adventures in paddling as well. That'll be cool. Right?

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So I've got because I'm a whack job, I've got I think there's three or four of them that I have

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to literally run from one stage to the other.

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And then and then about 03:30 on the Saturday, I can plunk at the at the paddling stage and

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and watch Eh?, Ben and and

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Ben and Evan. Eh?. There you go. Day.

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Well, we'll try to have some food sent over to you and maybe a maybe a maybe a beverage if you need one.

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Awesome. Yeah. So no. So but these, yeah.

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These, you know, and and so yeah.

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But for eh? everyone's looking for and and yeah.

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We know you're sort of big sweet spot, but the cool part is all of this scene, the sort of growth

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of the outdoor adventure show of, you know, where we really did start more as an extensive kind

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of canoe symposium, if you will.

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But to see all the different all the different styles of adventure take shape as things have

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gone over and have a significant part of the show has been really neat, you know, including

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kind of even overlanding where people are, you know, using eh?, again, glorified car camping,

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but just making it making it more, more, you know yeah. I eh?,

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Yeah. Lots of teardrop trailers and and and custom built stuff.

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Custom built stuff.

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That looks Yeah. That looks cool, man.

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Yeah. So we have five or six different exhibits that have really neat, you know, to see what

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people are doing with their with their custom things and to be able to get them into the outdoors.

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That's a, that's certainly a growing part of things.

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But the, but, yeah, in terms of international travel, like, we've got presentations from from

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really literally all around the world that are happening.

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You know, we've got a significant US travel portion, as well.

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But as we look at some international, you know, destinations, we've got cool stuff from Africa,

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from The Philippines, Nicaragua eh? happening, Antarctica, and then a number of, as I say, destinations

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in, in The States as well where you can, you know, the eh?

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Tanzania and climbing Mount Kilimanjaro, the Zara tours people are back presenting some of that

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that always have some great things, which which also get people into safari territory as well. And, so yeah.

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So there's, you know, just for for people who also want to be able to see the rest of the world

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outside of the wonderful Canada that that we both have great destinations on our list.

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There's, there's so many things to to do and see and just sort of, yeah, pick what your what

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your things are gonna be.

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And, yeah, the scuba and Caribbean adventure stage as eh?.

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That'll have a lot of what you're gonna do, Pamela, in, in in Mexico and with great dive destinations.

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And this our dive destinations last year, I think people are gonna see a significant uptick

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from people who came last year because a lot of the the dive day were still coming back from

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COVID in terms of, in terms of getting their dive resorts from a funding perspective and staffing perspective.

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They were still kind of recovering.

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So but we really have a, a full and sold out schedule and and zone that we had to keep expanding

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a few times as more and more dive destinations came in.

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So, you know, places like Saint Lucia, Antigua, Barbuda, yeah, dive Curacao, Bahamas, eh?, Martinique,

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And then you have local dive destinations for people like the, great people from Newfoundland

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as well are coming out talking on, dive destinations from ocean eh?.

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And, and so to be able to give some of those also some Ontario, dive people and and dive destinations being showcased there too.

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So for people who like to get underwater, yeah, the show this year is gonna be awesome for them too. That's cool.

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So on water, underwater.

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Yeah. There's eh? a water thing.

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The, that's the the travel theater. Sorry. You mentioned, Antarctica.

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Mhmm.

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What what out of curiosity, if you know, what does one do on a trip to Antarctica?

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What does one do on a trip to and I I'm gonna learn that as well along with you.

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So so Like, I'm thinking penguins, but but outside of that, I'm like, holy mackerels.

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I I you know, lots of snow and ice and

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Yeah. Science eh?. Exactly. Yeah.

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Aurora Expeditions is doing, is doing a, presentation on that.

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And, yeah, it's called are you expedition ready?

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And because a lot of that is, you know, Antarctica and beyond.

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And I actually sat beside, somebody on the plane ride home from our Vancouver Outdoor Adventure

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Show last year who had come, you know, from the Antarctic as well and just finished a a, an

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Antarctic tour with another company and exactly sort of going literally in in rubber pontoon

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boat from little island to island and in places where you literally for sure cannot leave any

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traces because they wanna keep this as pure and pristine as possible, but they still want people

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to be able to see it.

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But the you know, how close you can get to the penguins and see the tens of thousands and thousands

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of penguins up there, and and see all the different research that they're doing in the Antarctic.

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And, yeah, there's obviously a lot of topography in terms of hiking, trips that you can do eh?.

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But it's all about, you know, as I say, I think it's a it's a good topic on are you eh? ready?

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Because I think there is a lot of preparation that you have to do to be able to endure that and just getting there.

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And then there's often sort of puddle jumps along the day. Yeah.

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Depending on which area you're going to of of destinations that you can hit in terms of, you

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know, I know this couple who I met had had stopped in Peru and, Argentina and kind of got some

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of those destinations in South America on their on their way down there. So,

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On their way down. That'd be cool. Yeah.

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Yeah. So I think, so but yeah.

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But that that'd be a cool one to take in.

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I know Aurora Expeditions has been a good partner for a long time, so they kind of know what

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they're doing and, which is which is really neat. And, yeah.

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Another one on the Sunday.

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So you're not gonna be on this there on the Sunday, Tim, but on the, eh? of Canada stage, another

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one I thought was really, really neat at at 03:00.

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Mylan Coulomb Gratton called she has a company called Follow Her North and the outdoors through

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a Northern Ontario girl's eyes, is the name of her presentation.

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And she is super cool kind of watching her videos and and she's obviously grown up in the in

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the North, but she's now sharing her lifestyle and in terms of taking people on tours.

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And it's kinda neat to see a a young girl be able to share all of this and have the confidence

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to be able to try to bring people along with her and, and and and sort of I I just love the

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the topic that she's made of, Northern Ontario through a girl's eyes.

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Yeah. Yeah. Eh? yeah. There's so much well, I'd see bike packing too. Mhmm.

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As because I'm an idiot, and I'll talk to eh?, but anything that involves outdoors. Yes.

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As my my world view of it expands from being in a canoe, I see more and more people doing exactly that, doing bike packing.

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I think that's so cool. You know?

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And it eh? leads itself.

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I would say I'm seeing it more south of the border than here, but but ebikes and e motorcycles

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to get to get in there what eh? their those types are saying.

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You know, they were hikers and they do some overlanding, but now it's it's light and easy and

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they can actually expand their range

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Yeah.

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To to places that they've been before but get farther in or farther along or do do a larger

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loop or or whatever along those lines, which is like, that's cool.

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It's like, I've already done this stuff before. I've been here before.

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Now I can do more of it. I think that's amazing. It's fantastic.

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You're you're absolutely right. And it's, and that's kinda eh?, you know and and as I say, I

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think, you know, to me, the the, the people who get the most out of our show are people who, you know, hey.

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I think we have everything for the purest as we've talked about in terms of just hardcore basic

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paddling trips, which everyone can share and love.

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But the more that people can expand their horizons and the people who get the most out of our

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show are exactly what you talk about about being able to look and say, cool. Okay.

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An an electric bike, you know, yeah, it can have a connotation of is it the best for the environment,

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but my good, if they're hopefully able to deal with some of the the back ends of that correctly,

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and in that case, there's no emissions, but obviously, we have to deal with the batteries, etcetera.

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But just, to be able to exactly, you know, push your boundaries a little further and and to

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be able to do it. You know?

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Like, when I talk about it's funny because I talk about my my wonderful 81 year old father,

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and he's eh? who's like, hey.

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I should I wanna get an ebike because he's he's still, you know, rides his bike down in Florida.

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And he says he wants to get an ebike so that he can sort of ride, you know, across to the to the Everglades.

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And I'm like, I don't know that you should be doing that, but so he may not be the right demographic.

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But it's that kind of thing that, you know, leads people with spirit to be able to say, hey.

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And and it allows people, you know, different spouses.

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One may be faster than another and in better shape.

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But literally, if you can just go like this with your handle and be able to keep up, you know,

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for someone else who still wants to get the full exercise of biking, it's opened up a whole world of opportunities.

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And, and we've seen that.

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I've been watching for years, actually.

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It's amazing how long this has sort of taken to sort of get where it is, but, we have some people

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from the, from our BC bike show world.

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Our we have the BC bike show, which is combined with the outdoor adventure show in Vancouver.

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So it's sort of not just everything of, you know, we obviously have a cycling component with

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we have, I think, six great retailers from the bike world in Ontario at the Toronto Outdoor

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Adventure Show showcasing all ebikes and touring bikes and everything else in addition to, to

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Ontario by bike who's gonna eh? you different biking destinations.

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But I've met some just incredible people over the years from BC eh? we talk about the vibes

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back, fifteen minutes ago of people around the country.

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I've met the coolest North Shore Mountain Bikers who fifteen years ago were putting, you know,

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rigging their mountain bikes and putting actually motors on the back with backpack backpack

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powered, batteries and taking people into the Badlands and into all these incredible areas in in Northern BC.

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And their footage from fifteen years ago would blow your mind of the kind of stuff that I was

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seeing and what they were showcasing to people.

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And it's obviously evolved now that that main cycling companies are are offering that, but that's

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been, been really cool to kinda watch watch that become an exactly open open up the world of

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of outdoor adventure to people who love to also get on two wheels and and you can see so much

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and, and and eh?, prolong your your life of outdoor activities with that stuff too.

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That's cool. Yeah. I I can totally picture it.

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I I have some friends out in in Vancouver and, yeah, the bike scene out there is just just crazy.

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Like, they're all just they're they're a, they're a bunch of lunatics.

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Oh, they are.

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But but they've been doing it for a long time, so they're relatively safe lunatics.

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Oh, I know. I I know.

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You you can't you can't believe it. And, and yeah.

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For all of us who like to take pictures, I know you had, a Josie Dinsmore, I think, on your

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on your cast a while ago, you know, talking about photography in the in the outdoors.

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And we've got Fujifilm is on board this year.

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So they're doing a presentation on the Friday at the show, less editing, more adventures, just

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kind of for for photography people out there who who wanna, yeah, hear what some of the pros are doing.

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And, so next level next level visual, integrations of how we're how we're showcasing our things.

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So eh? it's cool to sort of have that.

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I know Scott Eh? from Rapid Magazine used to do some great presentations on that.

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They used to get, you know, about travel writing and travel photography, and he used to get

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some some great audiences for that too.

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So it's we're we're happy to have some of those things back for people who wanna continue to,

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make their photos Instagram worthy and and and plus ready for whatever other format you're gonna share them in.

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Yeah. That's a great that's a great tie in.

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Like, that makes that makes perfect sense.

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I wouldn't have thought of it. But yeah. Absolutely.

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And she had she had by the way, I heard, Eh? Stroud.

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She ended up, on a on a hike with Les Stroud, it sounded like from one of your podcasts.

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We did too. How how cool is that for sure?

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And and he's We're

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so jealous. No. We're

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jealous. Yeah.

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And and he's like that.

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And we didn't even talk about him when we talked about all the all the celebrities and people like that who love.

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I remember that was that was the last kind of, you know, eight or ten years ago as he came back

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to our show maybe the second or third time.

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He's like, these are my people. These are my people.

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And, because he just, you know, you can see.

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And so many people have seen either all of his episodes and followed him on on all of his different

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media channels and, and, but he really is such a good adventurer at heart and, and someone who just believes in everybody. Yeah.

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You know, making connections and and making the most of what you love to day.

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And, and he's he's become a a good friend over the years as well.

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And so it's really cool to have him.

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You know, he's still busy with so many different things that he does in the musical scene and

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and so many other things, but but it was really cool this year.

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He was like, oh, I don't even know if I can make it.

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I don't know if I can make it.

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What are the dates again?

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And I sent him the dates and he all of a sudden said, you know what?

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We're gonna go big or go home and come into all three shows.

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So he's coming to to three of our shows, not, not Quebec, as we do more things in French on that one.

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But, but he's coming to to Calgary and to Vancouver with us as well.

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So that'll be this will be the first time having him in Calgary.

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And, Vancouver, he was there once right before right when COVID just exploded.

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So which was our last show right before COVID.

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So I remember sitting there having the conversations with eh? about, day.

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Should I shake hands or not?

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What's what should we do here?

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We were like, ah,

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don't worry about it. Just go for it.

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We we maybe should have been more eh?, but he's still with us.

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So I think we're okay. So yeah.

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So we have him for three for three different shows, which is great.

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And it kind of shows exactly those kind of people who, who as you say are are so committed to

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to sharing what they have to offer and really enjoy the environment.

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So we're honestly just humbled that people like that will come out and and share their stories

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and see their people and, and and, yeah, meet people and just talk and share stories, and it's so much fun.

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Yeah. And and just as sort of a that's maybe a cautionary note.

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I'm not sure about whether taking your wallet's a good idea.

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Only because eh? is awesome and everything's on sale.

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So I may not have been looking for some of the stuff I went home with last year, but I went home with it anyhow.

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That's good. Yeah. No. That's a hey.

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That's what we like to hear.

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Thank you for supporting the exhibitors, Tim. Yeah.

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I hope you're brewing receipts, Pamela. That's good. Thank you.

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Yeah. It's a guarantee. If he goes, he's coming home with us.

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Yeah. You know that exactly.

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It's the time for that when we all want to start to get out and when we can look at these things,

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and it is great that so many of the of the retailers come out and, and put on some great sales to start the season.

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They love to kick off their season.

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Some of them have had day a cold couple of months wrapped up where people haven't been, probably

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as active, but this is the time to to get going. And, and so yeah.

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To have the the Johnson Outdoors and the Outdoors eh?, Helgson, you know, presenting a lot of

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their gear and a lot of other smaller up and coming travel gear providers, travel clothing providers,

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and to have some great scuba destination shops who bring, you know, different scuba gear to

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the to the table as well.

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There's there is we we always want to have a lot for people to buy just because people love

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to be at a show and and, and come home with something.

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So so that's something we're always you know, the retailing world is always, is always tricky

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at the best of times.

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So we love our exhibitors who come out and and it means a lot to us that they, you know, take

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the time and and effort to bring a lot of their inventory and all the canoe canoe and kayak,

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you know, dealers that come to the show as well to bring their boats and and and paddles and

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eh? suits and and every other backpack and, ancillary need that we have to be in the outdoors

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for the people who bring that inventory out.

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It's a lot of work and, and it takes a lot.

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So we're we're appreciative of it because people you wanna feel those things.

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You wanna get a paddle in your hand.

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You wanna talk to the guy who carved it.

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And, and that's that's kinda what we're what we're trying to bring together and what we think

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is sort of our secret sauce is having all of that.

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And when people can have a little story of some of the things with someone they've met from

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people who they've bought it from, it's a lot more satisfying than buying something on Amazon.

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So it kind of, you know, just gives you that, day. This is cool.

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And you and you remember you remember where you got something from. Right?

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Yep. Yep. I I I bugged well, it was it was I so I I wanted a double blade.

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I've got a I've got a a solo 14 footer now.

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Mhmm.

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And I wanted to try.

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I've got I have a plenty of single blades, but I wanna try out the double blade just to see how it works.

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And I got I man, I bugged them for I took up a great deal of their time yakking with them, and

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I came home and and just I mean, it was like a total crapshoot. I had no idea. Took their advice.

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We've checked out my size, all that sort of jazz. It's it's a fantastic

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It is. Okay.

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It's great. I used it last summer. It was awesome.

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Awesome. Hey. That's great to hear. And yeah. And hopefully, you See?

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Hopefully, it brings you back a memory of, of kind of being at the show and, again, something

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you can tell around the campfire. Right?

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Yep. Yeah. I had no idea what I was looking for, and they they totally totally totally educated

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me on on on all the things.

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Plus, it's it's, it Yeah. It's quite nice.

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Despite saying don't bring your rent, wallet, it's quite nice to to to sort of one stop shopping.

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Like, you, you know, you you hit eh?. You hit somebody else.

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Go over and look at h two o Yeah. Canoes.

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Go, you know, check check whatever out.

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It's I don't have to drive around to 14 places all over Yeah.

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You know, Ontario or whatever.

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I can drive to one place and listen to, you know, Adam Schultz tell me all about his latest book. Yeah. I'm okay. Let's go. Yeah.

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Do you out of interest, do you eh? up some meetings, just eh? to to or just, are you in in touch

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with people before the show to kind of, say, hey, I'm gonna see you eh??

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Or how do you how do you sort of plan your plan your visit aside from looking at the schedules and what that?

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Well, some of the other content creators for sure we've been communicating with about it. Hey. You gonna be there? Day. You gonna be there? Yeah.

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Yeah. It it honestly Yeah.

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October, November, we start chatting with people.

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Somebody will have eh? it, and then it'll become part of a conversation.

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And whether it's through we have a lot of contacts now, so it's great.

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We can we can reach out to somebody and and, you know, it's, I would say well, there's gonna

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be I I would say we I've probably talked to about a dozen 18 people Oh, cool.

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That we're good we're going to run into at the show and have a chat.

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And probably half of them will be future podcast episodes because it's like, okay.

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Let's here's a rough idea of yeah, let's when we get to the show, let's, you know, pop over by Yeah.

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Dennis and Kidd products, and and we'll have a Yakima.

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Yeah. Oh, neat. Oh, that's great.

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It is. It's so cool, man. Yeah. I've

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Eh? certain things that bring the whole community together.

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So Dennis Rogers Outdoor Adventure Show is one, like, on YouTube.

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And then the physical Outdoor Adventure Show is the other.

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It brings the community together.

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Your show, all like, all the Ontario content creators, if they can get away from wherever they

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are, whether it's coming through Saint Marie

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Yeah.

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Or Ottawa or, you know, it's I can I get back from that trip in time? They come in.

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Yeah. Oh, that's

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That's amazing. It's

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that that's good.

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For what I think of as my

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tribe, it's amazing. Cool. And that that is our other, by the way, fastest growing zone in the

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show is just is our even though we have all these wonderful destinations from all over the place,

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but Ontario Outdoor Adventure Pavilion is, you know, was the biggest expansions that Crystal

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and her team had to make in in exhibit space along the way because they just kept coming and

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coming and coming of, of of all.

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And that's a lot of sort of the little 10 by 10 outfitters that have unique unique adventures and stories to tell.

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So that is, you know, which are those are the meat and potatoes of, you know, for people who

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are often sort of driving within an hour and a half radius of, you know, so those are, as I

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say, are gonna be the the base travel adventures that a lot of people are gonna look for in

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terms of things that can be weekend trips or day trips and things like that that will and as

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I say, we'll all sort of hopefully put a bucket list trip out there for somewhere else in Canada,

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somewhere else around the world.

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But, you know, so many of the kind of people that come to the show do wanna do an outdoor, adventure

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in Ontario and be able to make sure they're checking off all the things that they can do relatively cost effectively.

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And so that's where we're happy that that word keeps spreading through that community.

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And, and they've they've chosen to come and and share their experiences with us and and with

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all of our attendees to show them what they have and and and inspire them to do some different

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things in all parts of Ontario too.

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But, so as I say, that's certainly is kind of our fastest growing zone that's that really did

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help us kinda sell out the show this year.

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And so I'm just looking at the floor plan now trying to say, where can we fit a few more?

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Because we have a bit of a waiting list now, which is nice.

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That's that's enviable position.

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Yeah. We don't take it for granted because we, and so now our challenge is is yeah.

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So we are and as you say, it is a busy time of year.

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I was just literally back in the other part of the office here pulling out all the signage that

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we have that we hang all throughout the hall, just kinda getting that ready and which ones are

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we gonna refresh and making sure it's all ready to go to, to have our crew with the with the eh?.

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And so that kinda gets me excited for for, for starting the season from that too.

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So it's we're we're certainly ready in high gear and, and and ticket sales have obviously been

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going on for probably, eh?, since before Christmas, I guess now.

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And, and yeah, it certainly is probably on track to be one of our best ever attended shows as well.

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So that's where we're happy.

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And again, it's we we can't thank people like you enough who eh? spread the word to to our kind

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of people as well to to help get the message out.

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And and as I say, that kind of reach that we get both organically and and be able to just spread

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with, you know, all the messages that people are are sending in a videos to us, that we're able

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to relay organically and through our paid social media to get get the word out to people.

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It just helps, you know, really bring it all to life and and show the kind of adventures that we're doing.

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We we've done some cool things with our exhibitors where they were good enough to on a lot of

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their adventures throughout the summer, from last year shooting videos for us from their destinations,

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which has been really neat because that's what people sort of want to see and be able to say,

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hey, come and see us at the show.

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This is kinda what you're gonna be able to see and what you're gonna be able to day, and we can put you here.

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But so that that took up a lot a lot of advanced planning, but our marketing team's done a lot

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of work on that too.

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You know, that's really what, you know, because it's to me, this is it's sort of two shows at once that happened here.

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It's the it's the live show that happens to take place inside the international center eh? in

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a 20,000 feet, but then everyone's visions are of the outdoors and the and and the great outdoors.

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And we're happy we can do the show in there because that's, you know, we need a climate controlled

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environment to pull off everything that we do despite the people who always say to me, why aren't you doing it outdoors?

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Well, it doesn't work so well if you're at Guelph Lake and then all of a sudden rains for two day. You know?

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None of us are are happy eh?.

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So we make the best of it.

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But again, we all know that at the show, in everybody's mind's eye, it's, you're in the outdoors

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and you're looking at a booth from wherever it is in in Eh?

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Territories or in, you know, in Alberta tourism or Nicaragua and you're picturing yourself there.

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And and obviously the graphics and images people are able to put into their booths and videos

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that they're able to put in the booths just helps get people in that mode, which, which really

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turns your your static, wonderful concrete environment of a show into into, yeah, a very visionary

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experience that you can have, and almost sort of does help immerse you into the outdoors with

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still having a roof over your head.

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So if that makes sense. Yeah. Well

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And and cycling back to the the a comment you made very early forty forty minutes ago or whatever. It it it is.

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It puts people are people are it it's like it's like the the go to plan your tripping

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Yeah.

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To to do all that sort of stuff. So Yeah. It's Wow. Yeah.

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So so much excitement in February to for for July

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this week. Excited, Tim, because I told you we could probably only talk for half an hour, and

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I think we're at forty eight minutes right now.

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What what have you done?

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Eh?. We run into this all the time.

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Oh, jeez. It's not

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a bad thing, man. No.

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It's not a bad thing.

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That's great. That's great.

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Well, on behalf of of everybody who likes to come to the show, thank you so much for putting it on, man. I can't tell you.

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It's for me, seriously, being in a canoe, hiking the crack. Yeah. Day? Yeah.

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Outside of that, this is, like, the highlight of my year.

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That's that's great. Eh?, yeah.

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Thank you for those kudos, and, and we're we're really happy to do it.

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And it it makes it all worthwhile when you hear stuff like that, and, and when you see people

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who really do enjoy it.

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And, and, yeah, again, we can't thank you enough for helping spread the good, and, and we good

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forward to to seeing you at the show.

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Unfortunately, Pamela, we'll have to wait another year for you, but we'll we'll hear about your adventures then.

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Yeah. We will. Yeah. We will.

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And and if you do manage to get yourself a a cool, you know, Newfoundland and Labrador, seriously, invite.

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Come come tell eh? us all of this the story about the trip.

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Sounds good. No. I'd, yeah, I'd I'd be happy to do that for sure.

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Thank you so much to Fred Cox from the Outdoor Adventure Show for joining us today.

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Please do check it out if you're here in Toronto. It's February.

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But you can also check it out in Vancouver, Calgary, and Montreal.

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And I don't know what the dates are

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for that. At they're one week after each. Right?

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Just all

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of that. So Toronto is the twenty third, '20

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fourth, '20 fifth. Vancouver the next weekend.

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Eh?. Yep. Then you're back to Calgary, then you're Montreal.

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Yeah. One week off and then Calgary, Montreal back to back in, in March. So that's right. So

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And then and then a bit of exhaustion for a little while after that.

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That's right. That's right.

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And here in Toronto is at the International Centre out on Airport Road.

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So do check it out.

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And thank you so much for listening to us. I'm Pamela.

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