Adam & Ben From Paddleheads Blow Our Minds With Their Fishing Knowledge!

We, obviously, talk about fishing, but we also talk about the "scam" of winter camping, taking your kids into the backcountry, kayak vs canoe, and fish waffles - wtf?

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Transcript

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Hello, and good day, Eh? to the Super Good Camping podcast. My name is Pamela.

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I'm Tim.

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And we are from supergoodcamping.com.

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We are here because we are on a mission to inspire other families to enjoy camping adventures

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such as we have with our kids.

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Today's guests are a couple of fairly prolific fishermen with great senses of humor as shown

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by the fact that they refer to themselves as a couple of idiots who adventure fish in Canada.

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Please welcome Ben and Adam from Paddleheads. Yay. Welcome.

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Hey. Yes. Thank you. Thanks for having us.

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No. No. Thank you. No. Really?

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Day the Canadian thing where we just thank you. Thank you. No.

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Thank you.

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Oh, the

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story. No.

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No. Really.

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No story. Thank you. So, I right out of the gate, just because I don't know the Eh? origin story,

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how did you guys meet?

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We met through YouTube. We actually each had our own channel.

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I was we were both creating camping and fishing videos.

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We had both started around the same time.

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And I found one of Adam's videos and I watched the entire thing even though he caught no fish in the video.

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And I decided just to reach out to him.

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And, eh? him on Instagram. We started chatting.

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And it turned out that we were both a couple of metalheads who both played music.

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He's a drummer and I'm a bassist.

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And traditionally drummers and bassists get along pretty well.

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At least the ones in the good bands seem to.

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So yeah, we really hit it off.

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We had a lot of, similarities that way.

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Although he grew up in the Toronto area, I was in Kingston eh?, we grew up, you know, very far apart.

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There was a lot of similarities.

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So we just kept talking and shooting videos eh?, doing trips eh?, and, we kind of realized that,

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you know, we're putting out two of the same video.

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You know, when we're on the trip together, you're just getting kind of two different aspects of the same trip.

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So we thought, why not team up, save ourselves some work, and, create videos together?

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Yeah. I would just add to that that it became obvious pretty quick that Ben and I The way we

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work on our videos together, we can be very critical and there's pros and cons to that.

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But we very quickly learned, like, I was aware of my strengths and weaknesses as was Eh?, and

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they complimented each other very well.

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So it was kind of like a yin and yang thing.

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And we felt like together, we were actually able to create eh?

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of stuff that we wanted to make and and the type of trips we wanted to day.

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I was very much aligned.

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And so it was kind of just a natural fit and

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And share the workload. As I'm sure you two know, it's it's a lot of work. Yeah.

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Yeah. I don't I I definitely don't think that most of the consumers of content realize what

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it takes to make that content.

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Like, it's I have so much tripping stuff stashed in my computer that I just I just I it's so daunting.

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Every time I pull it out, I like I look at it because it's like, yay. My kids. Whatever.

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But to to splice it eh?, it's just like, oh, no. No.

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I'm not gonna work on another podcast episode. Whatever.

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So what kind of trips do you guys like to do?

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You mentioned, like, you both enjoy the same types of trips, but what kind of trips are eh??

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Those? So we've learned in time, we like slow trips.

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Not that we don't like doing big trips covering big distance, but it's definitely about the

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fishing for both Ben and I, that is our priority.

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And quite often, we're planning trips based on a specific fish, like we're looking for a fish.

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And so we'll kind of go wherever we have to eh? that fish.

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But yeah, we often will just base camp and we'll stay in the same spot for two or three nights, whatever.

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And we've done trips where we're moving between spots.

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But, yeah, I would say, like, easygoing.

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We we like to push ourselves.

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We've done some pretty big portages in Algonquin. Like, we're not afraid.

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We just know that we'd rather be fishing.

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Cool. And you you do so I have watched a decent amount of your eh?, so I know a bunch of things.

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But, you like to do I see you guys in canoes.

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I also see you in kayaks.

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Do you have do either of you have a preference?

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That's kind of where we both, we we have opposite preferences for sure.

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So I think that kind of it helps the channel.

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It helps bring more variety into the channel.

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I definitely prefer the kayak for fishing. I understand its limitations.

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You can't portage a fishing kayak.

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You know, the the decent ones are 80 to 9,100 pounds.

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So you're not taking that down to one kilometer portage easily.

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So but I love the fishing kayak just for its stability, its comfort.

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I most of the time, I'm standing up when I'm fishing in the fishing kayak, and I just love it.

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It makes more sense for musky fishing too.

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I'm a big musky, a big fan of musky angling, and they're a big fish.

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So you, you need to be able to handle those big fish.

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And the stability of the kayak allows you to eh? a big muskie out of the water or, also to be

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able to perform certain actions.

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You know, when you're fishing in a canoe you're sitting down, and unless you fish a lot you

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kind of realize, you don't realize how limited you are when you're sitting down and fishing.

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You can't perform certain actions with the fishing bait and with musky fishing you gotta do

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like a figure eight beside the boat.

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Anyways, there's special techniques where it's better to be standing for fishing.

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So the fishing kayak, I love it.

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I also love that we can be fishing the same waters, and And if Adam's in a different fishing

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kayak, we don't have to be in the same place.

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He can go fish over there if he wants to.

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I can go fish over there if I want to.

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So that's that's a great thing.

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Whereas with the canoe, it's we have to agree on, yeah, that looks like a good spot. Let's

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Yeah. We've been very fortunate, because I don't own a kayak, but, we're brand ambassadors for

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Front Neck Outfitters, and they've been a big supporter of our channel for a long time.

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And so, we've had a few opportunities to get out, and they'll let me borrow a fishing kayak.

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So, yeah, Ben and I will both be in fishing kayaks.

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We'll try and plan those trips so there's no portages.

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But like eh? like Ben says, there's definitely advantages to a fishing kayak, but there's something about a canoe.

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I can't think of a better term.

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So, I'm going to say eh? something romantic about it.

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It's just like the feeling of being in a canoe. I really like that.

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And actually, the two times oh, this isn't true.

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This is pretty much a big lie, but I've lost a few things off of fishing kayaks.

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And so I've decided that, you know, it's the fishing kayaks fault, mine.

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So I'll look for excuses, you know, to but they have their advantages for sure.

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But with the tripping and the portaging and the camping stuff, the canoe is eh? a way to go.

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And because experience doing that, we've really kind of dialed in, like, what we need in the

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boat and the kind of stuff we bring and how we fish together.

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I would imagine if people were watching us fish, maybe it doesn't come across in the videos,

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but like from afar, Ben and I are like casting over each other all the time.

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Our lines are crossing and we're always watching each other's bait.

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And so it's rare that we get tangled, but we've just gotten like really comfortable fishing

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out of a canoe together.

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So we make it work, right?

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I know there's a lot of people that don't like fishing out of a canoe. So, they're missing out. That's what I think.

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Eh?. You can't you can't beat the portability of a canoe. Right?

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Being able to hit those back lakes and those less fishing pressured areas, you keep getting closer to that.

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Eh? a kayak. I'm sorry. It just is.

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Cleaner, smoother, just the lines. I absolutely agree.

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I'm just curious about the fishing kayak.

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I could just I can't visualize standing up in a kayak.

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But but how is it that stable that you can stand up in it?

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So the hull is kind of like a pontoon style when you look at most of them, but the very stable ones.

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There are some fishing kayaks that are not very stable.

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So, certain people's experiences may differ.

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But in the fishing kayaks that I've used, like from Jackson Kayak, I can stand on one foot comfortably in that fishing kayak. You feel it good.

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Like, it starts to kind of sit on edge, but it'll hold that edge.

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And unless your head goes over the the gunnels, the side of the kayak, you're fine.

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If you just keep your head above your belly button, you're golden.

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Now I have seen somebody fall off, Zach from Outfitters.

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You know, if you're not careful, and you go to try and set the hook and there's nothing there,

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well, you day be, kind of I I've seen them, yeah, throw his balance off and fall off the fishing pack. It does happen.

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But, yeah, you just be careful.

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Just for the record, I'm totally leaving that part in. Sorry, Zach.

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And has that footage. Maybe he can get it to you and you can include it in your final video edit. He's never used it?

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It can be swell. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Oh, cool. Yeah. I I personally have never fished.

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I've I think I've been in a kayak once, and I've never fished from one. I fished from canoes.

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It's all fine and dandy.

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Although, that said, I've got a 14 foot that's it's I guess it's packed boat style.

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Like, I'm sitting in the bottom of it.

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Just just paddling it terrifies me that I'm going over.

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So I can't I would never even think about

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I've paddled

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one of

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those boats. Not eh? this.

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Super nice. I've paddled one of those key waitings, the solo boats.

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Ben, you remember the trip we did with Justin?

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I was paddling that solo boat. It was a red

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Yeah. That was our first Yeah.

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First trip Eh? nice little boats.

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I really like those solo boats. It's super cool.

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Like, you have the same portability that you day, I guess independence that you would in a fishing

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kayak, but all the space that you have in a canoe. Right?

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Yeah. I remember you mentioning how how you had to get used to it, though.

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When we first got in that that canoe, I remember you saying it's

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Well, yes. Because of the hull, it's, it's not as stable as what I was used to.

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Like, my my fishing canoe up until just recently, and maybe we can talk about that a little

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bit, but my fishing canoe is this big, old Canadian tire eh? plastic boat, which I can comfortably

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stand in because it's so wide and the bottom's so flat.

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So I was very comfortable in the nice stable canoe, but that keywayed in was the first time

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that I was kind of paddling a real boat kind of by myself, a real canoe anyways.

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And, yeah, it took a little while, but, it got super comfortable.

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You know, we were on an Algonquin trip, so there wasn't much choice.

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It was like, this is what we're doing.

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So I got I got okay with it after a little while.

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Yeah. Same same here. I I think the very first time I tried to get into it, I went over.

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And then and then there was at least one other really close call eh?, like, I think I just just reached out.

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You know, not not used to that kinda tumble home. Right? Like, I'm eh?

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I'm going a little farther out.

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And I was like, oh, trap.

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I'm oh, That was close to being wet again.

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Tim, you said you fished out of a kayak before?

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That's good. No. Oh, you haven't?

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What about you, Pamela?

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Eh? in one before.

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Okay.

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I've fished out of a like, we've got a oh, what is it?

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Suri River Eh? 17 footer.

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It's got and you you just mentioned your the flat bottom.

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It's eh?, very flat on the bottom.

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It's stable as I'll get out.

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Like, you could you know, you you can party in that thing, and and it's not it's not going over. It's doesn't matter.

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Ballast ballast made a big difference.

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So I filled up, you know, the the what are they called?

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The float boxes at either end of that. I filled them up

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with water.

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That totally changed how it how it beat.

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Oh, you can do that?

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Made it

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well, I'm sure you're not supposed to, but I didn't. It's it's mine.

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I can do whatever I want. Yeah.

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Somebody eh? tell me what to do.

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I didn't have any ballast with me then, but it added enough ballast that it it did. It made it be

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That's interesting.

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Far more comfortable with the paddling.

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I'm sure over time, it'll be fine, but it was I'm used to big stable beasts.

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Quick little tip with that, Tim.

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Something that I've learned from a friend of ours over the year.

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If you use, like, a 20 liter dry bag, fill it up with water, and just have it sitting in the

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bow of the canoe, like, hooked around the the grab handle, that will put enough weight in the

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front of the boat that it can help with stability, especially in, like, windy conditions.

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I do that often when I'm fishing solo out of my big canoe. Yeah. Cool. Day.

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Thank you. That's great. So just to double back a little bit, so what's the other than trying

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to half the workload and not publish double the the material, what what else what do you what's

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the ultimate sort of goal of Paddleheads?

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What are you trying to do with your brand? I

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think encourage people to get out and and and fish and explore more areas.

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It's kind of, I mean, the same as a lot of these YouTubers is basically to try and inspire people.

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To get out there, give it a shot, and to share stories of our trips and hope that, you know,

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people can learn from those stories.

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Yeah, I think our goal is mostly just to inspire and educate when we can.

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We see a lot of people going tripping in the backcountry and there's not a lot of fishing rods going with people.

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We can understand that it seems like it's a pain to bring a fishing rod and all of the tackle

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that you need, but when you can dial it in and figure it out, it really adds to a trip.

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And it can make for some amazing memories.

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There's there's something very rewarding about fishing when you get into it. Yeah.

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I would day

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I don't know. What what would

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you say? A lot of a lot of, like, content creators or YouTubers in this, like, fishing, camping,

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paddling space, I know this is the case, for us or for myself and probably Ben too.

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But I think it comes from a place of inspiration.

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Like we were inspired by somebody to do this thing.

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Almost feels like this obligation, like, because you can you want to share that with other people

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that might not have those opportunities or that person in their life to inspire them.

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Because like Ben said, like, the camping and the paddling, like that alone is or can be such a life altering experience.

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But like for us, there's something about fishing, especially like you have a goal.

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Like I said, you've got a fish in mind.

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Like you're imagining it Before you go out for the trip, like I can see eh?, I'm holding this fish.

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I cannot wait for that moment.

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And all of the, what is Eh?, misadventures that happens between starting the trip and getting

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to that point just makes that whole experience eh? you finally get to, like, hold that fish so much more rewarding.

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And so there's something special about fishing, in my opinion, that just really adds to these

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trips that are, like, so awesome by themselves anyways.

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But, so, yeah, you know, we we were inspired, and we we want to give other people that same

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that same feeling, that same opportunity.

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Yeah. We see also on this flip side, we see a lot of anglers that don't enjoy camping or they

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don't take advantage of camping.

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And they, you know, we just we we hope to open their eyes to to this side of things too.

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That you can get way better fishing if you just go a couple portages in and you can make some

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amazing memories doing these trips trying to get these fish.

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Eh?, and so speaking of which, without giving away your favorite lakes, at least not while we're

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recording, but afterwards, where do you guys like to fish?

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Do do you have any sort of, like, you know, Kawartha Highlands?

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Or you do you have some some crown land in Eh? Ontario?

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So or or do you like to fish all the things so that you can do musky, you can do bass, you can do whatever?

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We have a couple places that we we focus for sure.

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We have our patterns, you could day.

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But we we do enjoy exploring new eh?, especially when we hear about certain species of fish

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or the type of fishing that we could experience.

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And sometimes we just we kind of we ask people.

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Like we'll get suggestions from Kevin Callan.

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We'll email him and ask him for some tips on where we should go.

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Yeah. Ben is kind of out in the Kingston eh?.

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So he spends a lot of time fishing those areas.

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I live in the Kawartha Lakes region, so I spend a lot of time there fishing.

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And, yeah, over the years, we've we've found our spots that we go back to, for one reason or another.

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Usually it's because fishing is good.

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But, for sure, we like to explore and try new places as well.

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And that's part of the fun of it, right, is when you're going somewhere new and you have these

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expectations of kind of what you're looking from for it.

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Either it happens or it doesn't.

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And either way, you know, there's a lot to gain from that.

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But, yeah, we've good some lakes.

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It's gonna cost you a lot, Tim.

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Not it's nothing personal, but maybe we can chat later about spots.

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We're thinking of setting up, like, a big pot.

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And if we can get enough money, we just want lots of money.

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We'll tell everybody all the secret spots, but we'll have to be millionaires first. Right, Ben?

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Yes.

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Eh? was a conversation we had. Yep. Not.

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So Ben mentioned muskie as being one of his favorite fish.

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Adam Adam, do you have one?

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Favorite fish? I feel like I want to say bass just because I've had so much fun bass fishing

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and it's the fish that most people cut their teeth on, so to speak.

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But I've been fortunate to have some really awesome experiences, not only by eh?, but with my kids.

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And so I would say bass probably will always hold a very special place in my heart just because

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it's so fun, and it's it's way more accessible than something like muskie.

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You can go bass fishing for, you know, $15.

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Now that's that's Kevin, Callan and and Speedo Man's opinion.

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It might cost a few more dollars if you ask us, but not much.

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You really don't need much to get out there and catch bass.

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So, yeah, I love bass fishing.

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Oh, kids. So what you obviously, you too.

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Any we we'll we'll let everybody know about all your channels towards the end.

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YouTube fish together a lot, but do you take your families and and do camping or fishing or,

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you know, that that kind of outdoor adventure stuff?

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Yeah. I do for sure.

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I don't so I've just got this weird personal thing.

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I don't put my kids in any of our videos.

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My opinion on that is I'm leaving it up to them until they're old enough to decide whether or

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not they want to be on the Eh? permanently forever.

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But that doesn't stop me from taking them and I just don't record those trips.

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Just this year, actually, this summer, I try to get at least once or twice, with them every year.

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We day, like, a backcountry trip.

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And, this year was super fun.

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I took them my wife sat this one out.

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It was just the kids and I, but I took them to kinda my, my favorite spot, which is this really

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cool big island campsite on this, like, beautiful lake. There's nobody ever there.

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And so the kids and I did a bunch of bass fishing.

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Actually, the day we were packing up, they're walking around the campsite and they're like, Oh, we're bored, day. What should we do?

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I'm like, Go get your fishing rods and go fishing. And they're good anglers. They're only seven.

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They're still little, but I take them fishing a lot.

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I live very close to a lake, and so they're rock bass experts.

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So I just said, Take your fishing rods and go fishing.

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So I'm packing up the campsite.

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And fortunately, we're on the island.

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I know they can't go far.

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And I'm putting the tent away and I hear, it's a big one. It's a big one. So I drop everything.

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I'm running across the island.

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I get there and my daughter, she's like holding up, day, I got one.

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So that that kind of stuff for me is like so special. I absolutely love that.

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It's like why I started doing this and the fact that like I get to enjoy those experiences with my kids now.

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I've had my wife out a few times as well.

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She's a little less enthusiastic, and it's primarily based on her experiences.

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And we'll eh? to that later, actually.

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I'd love to tell a story about that.

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But, possible, I mean, in between work and just regular family life and then the channel and

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all those other things, it's hard to, like, get all of that in.

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But I I make an effort at least once or twice a year to get the family out camping.

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Sweet. How about you, Ben?

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Eh?, I don't have a little family of my own.

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But, I've been trying to convince my mom to get out camping with me.

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I think I might be able to get her out on a trip without any portages. Yeah.

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And I just recently started, taking my girlfriend out.

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She is, she's from Brazil.

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She came to Canada just last year.

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So I've been, showing her as much of the camping as I can and trying to convince her into winter

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camping, but she keeps calling that a scam.

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So I don't think that'll happen.

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But I got to take her to Algonquin this year, and she was an absolute champ in the canoe.

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I've had her in the canoe a couple times before, and she picked it up really quick.

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And she kept asking me, like, teach me more. Show me more.

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So I'm teaching you how to do draws and crossbow draws.

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And and, eventually, like, we'd be fishing together.

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She's like, I just wanna paddle. And I'm like, okay.

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She's like, let me paddle you around the lake. I'm like, okay.

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I wanna go fishing over there.

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And she's paddling from the front of the canoe and getting me over there. No problem.

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So, yeah, it's been a lot of fun getting her out.

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She's been really good in the canoe and on the portage trails and with camping. So

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Matt, can you explain the, the why, she thinks it's a scam to winter camping?

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She just it's too cold for her. You know?

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She's she's from Brazil, so she's she's like yeah.

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Like, nice temperature to her is, like, 35 degrees Celsius.

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I remember you saying So she she didn't believe that anyone could be comfortable doing that.

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Yeah. She she doesn't believe it.

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I think that's hilarious. I

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when I take we took her out to, Algonquin, I had her in a minus 18, sleeping bag.

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And she was still, she she she had layers on underneath the sleeping bag too.

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And this was not winter camp. Right?

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This was not. No. This was August. Oh my goodness.

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Yeah.

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It's not for everybody. That's for sure.

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Well, I like, I couldn't go I couldn't do Brazil because I I'm I don't know.

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I run it about I'm I'm a little run a little hotter than most people. I would just melt.

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Like, I'm you know, it's Eh? Yeah.

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Not not for this guy.

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Adam, tell us tell us your story about your your wife and and camping.

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Oh, so

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You like stories.

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Yeah. The first time I took her out backcountry camping was in Algonquin.

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This was probably 2018, I want to say.

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And I didn't have much experience fishing or backcountry camping really.

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Like, I'd been out, like, a dozen times, and she agreed to come.

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So we learned a couple things that first weekend.

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One is both of us have a sensitivity to DEET.

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So we learned that the hard day.

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And I'll say I'll just say this.

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We learned that I don't know if you're familiar with what that means, but for us, if we use

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DEET, even like a small amount, we both experience, like, nausea.

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Nausea, but on the other side of your body, I'm not sure how to exactly describe that.

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But

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so all at the same time.

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And so this happened to both of us in the middle of the night, we woke up and it's in the middle

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of this torrential downpour and thunderstorm.

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So it's like the worst conditions, and both of us are like, oh, we gotta go now. So we're laughing.

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We're out just in the storm in the middle of the night laughing, like everything coming out of everywhere.

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It was like that was her first experience.

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Somehow I convinced her to come out with Ben and I, actually.

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This was only like the second time Ben and I had done like a a a paddle trip together.

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And so I dragged her along with us.

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She came willingly, but we were on an island site.

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And we knew there was a storm coming on the Saturday, so we kind of set up some tarps.

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We were preparing for rain.

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And so, I don't know, we were kind of hanging out.

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It was an easygoing day and we kind of saw the storm coming, but from across the lake, which was really cool.

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We could see I don't know if you've ever seen that, but there's like a wall of rain.

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You can see the clouds rolling across the lake.

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And as the storm got closer, the wind started eh? pretty gusty.

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So, day, this is going to be like a wind rainstorm.

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And then the lightning and thunder started cracking.

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The wind started picking up.

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And at this point, all the tarps we had set up to protect ourselves from the rain are just flapping

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around, not attached to anything anymore.

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And the rain was coming down so hard that it created this flash flood in our campsite.

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So now we've got this little river going underneath the tent that my wife and I are sleeping

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in with all of our dry stuff.

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The wind is so strong that I'm holding onto the tarp that's over top of the hammock that Ben's

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sleeping in, just trying to keep the tarp over the hammock eh? all of his stuff's in there.

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And the wind became so eh?, all of us were very uneasy.

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This feels like a tarp.

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We're scrambling. And of course,

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my wife's freaking out. I'm holding onto the tarp and Ben's filming. He's got the camera.

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And at one point it got so intense that my wife, she just yelled, Are we gonna die?

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And I'm like, grab a tree.

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Which of course, like in a thunderstorm is probably not good advice.

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But in that moment, the wind seemed like the bigger threat.

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And so I don't know.

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After that, it was kind of a blur.

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The whole storm passed over, everything cleared up.

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And just the site was a disaster. It tore everything apart.

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And like I said, my tent, fortunately, it's a good tent.

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It was sitting in this huge puddle.

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We picked it up and moved it.

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Fortunately, everything inside was day.

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Thank with Ben as well.

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And, yeah, it was a good reminder of the power of mother nature and the fact that she doesn't

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care about you or your stuff.

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And we learned that actually on our paddle out.

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As we were leaving the next day, we saw this, like, group of boats.

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So there were cottages on this lake, and there was a group of boats kinda sitting at this, in front of this cottage.

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And as we approached it, we realized the entire cottage had burnt down.

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So we assume that maybe, it was hit by lightning or something like that. We're not sure.

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Fortunately, it didn't seem to affect the forest around it.

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But, yeah, it was just like, wow.

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We got out of that pretty okay.

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When we were in the middle of it and the wind picked up, it it had gone from almost, like, zero

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to a hundred so fast that I legit thought that we had, like, a mini tornado drop on top.

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It was it was so strong.

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And you can see in the video footage, the trees are just going side to side.

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And, yeah, mother nature didn't let up after the storm.

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I guess you forgot about this, Adam.

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The bugs were horrendous afterwards.

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There weren't that many bugs before the storm, and afterwards, they were so bad.

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Well, probably like us, they were just glad to still be alive.

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So they're like, we better eat. Yeah.

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So they all came out and they were feeding. Yeah.

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Well, you can't use DEET, Adam.

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So what do you do in that situation?

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Over the years, I've gotten away from using the insect sprays and the lotions.

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I just use, like, bug jackets now. And, same with shirts.

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Like, I don't like wearing sunscreen.

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I'm I'm not like, I don't know.

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I wanna say a weirdo, but that might offend somebody.

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But, like, I just don't like all the oil and the grease all over my my skin and stuff.

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And so, like, these kinds of UV shirts, I love eh?, but they're good.

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They help keep the bugs off.

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They help keep the sun and stuff like that off.

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So that's kinda what I do now.

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I've I've been thinking noodling about the, the inspiring people to get out there.

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So so if you were to say, here's here's a here's a nice little kit to put together eh? to go

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out or or or I don't know.

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Like, I know that Ontario Parks does does a learn to fish program where they lend you a a rod

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and a a hook and a bobber and whatever.

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What would you say what would you recommend for somebody to to put together to get themselves out there?

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Well, we can't speak to the whole the the eh? rod thing.

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We've never we've never done that.

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But for a fishing rod, if you're actually considering fishing and you think you're gonna be

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doing it for a while and you don't wanna buy five fishing rods, we we recommend Ugly Sticks.

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There's a certain brand and not sponsored. They're called Ugly Sticks.

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They're marketed as being one of the toughest rods.

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And I personally have never broken, an ugly stick, and we take them on all of our trips.

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And we are not always super easy on our gear, and they really stand the test of time.

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And as as for a reel, you know, you could probably find an ugly stick with a reel on it and

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that will get you through enough seasons.

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I wouldn't worry about upgrading the reel right away.

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Do some research on YouTube though about learning about how to put fishing line on your fishing rod.

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There's common mistakes that people make and it can lead to a disaster.

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So I highly recommend that.

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And, as far as fishing lures, like just grab yourself a couple of simple, easy fishing lures,

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some of the classics, a spinnerbait, some spoons, you know, and just get out there and start trying.

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Yeah. I would just add to that.

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You know, if someone is not sure whether they are going to like fishing, it's something they

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just are interested in trying, there are much less expensive combos.

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So you get a rod and a reel with fishing line on it at you know, like Canadian Tire, something like that. They'll go on sale.

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You can pick them up for $15.20, $40 sometimes for the whole thing.

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You know, if you find a good sale, you can get them pretty inexpensively.

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That's not going to do well in time.

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The thing that usually fails first on those cheaper combos is the fishing line.

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It just turns into a big tangled mess and you're like, well, this is useless now.

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But it's certainly good enough to get you started.

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And I mean, you could go as simple as just like any hook and a worm with a bobber or a little

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split shot weight just above the hook on the line.

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You just pinch it on. It's super simple.

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Throw it out there with a bobber.

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You will that's that's what there's a couple lures or baits that I would say will pretty much

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guarantee fish if there are fish in the lake.

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A worm is one of them. You just gotta wait.

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But, yeah, with what Ben said, you can easily pick up a few pretty inexpensive lures, inline

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spinners, spoons, that kind of thing.

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But YouTube is a huge resource because, you know, some people some people have people in their

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lives that fish and that can teach them those kinds of things. Many people don't. I didn't.

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I learned how to do everything I know now from YouTube, and that's just the generation I grew up in.

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But there's tons of resources out there.

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So if you're not sure how to tire lure on or anything like that, all of that information is available on YouTube.

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And pretty quickly you can you can be out on the water catching fish?

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Yeah. Don't worry about the electronics when you first start out.

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I wouldn't even worry about fish finders and all that stuff.

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You know, fishing can get as complicated as you want it to be, but it can also be very simple.

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So don't overcomplicate it and mostly just get out there and see if you enjoy it.

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See if you have the patience for it.

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And one thing that I wanna add just because the the common complaint I hear from people is,

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well, I always get a bird's nest.

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I always get a big tangle.

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I get a big knot in my fishing line all the time.

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For beginning fishing line, I would recommend braided fishing line.

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It doesn't tangle as easily.

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You if you've ever touched a fishing rod, you'll probably know that that a lot of the fishing

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line, when you start pulling it off, it has a memory and it has this coil to it.

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That's usually where your bird's nest, your knots are gonna come from.

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And braided line doesn't do that.

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It's much easier to tie knots.

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So for beginners, start with braided line.

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You'll have a much easier experience, much better experience.

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Yeah. I'm not sure if you can buy combos with braided line on them.

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Usually, when you buy a combo, it has monofilament on it.

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So that might be a good, like, exercise for somebody to learn how to spool their own reel. It's not that hard.

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It does have to be done properly.

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I would just say on that though, if that's the type of thing you're going to do, make sure you're

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not careless with the fishing line.

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That's probably one of the biggest problems with anglers, and the biggest issue that we see

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is just people leave fishing line around.

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So if you're going to be pulling fishing line off of a reel, eh? way to dispose of it would

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be to coil it up and wrap, like, a little bit of tape around it or something like that just to keep it bunched.

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And I'm not like so I know there are some recycling programs in some areas.

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I would suggest people look into that.

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But, yeah, fishing line can be pretty dangerous for wildlife and that sort of thing.

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So it's not the type of thing you wanna just be all willy nilly about, you know, to use a technical term.

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Eh?, yeah. One, we we're big on sustainability and eco friendliness.

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And so we do you guys have any tips around that?

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In terms of eating like well, like, stuff like, catch and release versus eating all of your catch.

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You know, are are there different like, I know, you know, when you get your when you've got

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your license, for sake of arguments, conservation license, this type of fish, you're you have

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a certain range of size or weight that is a keeper, isn't, but but and sometimes those ranges are pretty large.

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What what would be you know, I don't I don't know.

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Pull it out of your butt.

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Pick a fish and say, you know,

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Don't do that. That's gross.

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Two pounds and up is good to keep. Right?

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But by the time you hit four and a half pounds, that's an old lunker that's kicking around and

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and has been producing other fish.

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Let that guy keep keep doing that part of the job. You know?

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You know you know what I mean?

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Yeah. Yeah. Generally speaking, once you start learning your species of fish, you'll start to

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realize, you know, what is a big fish?

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Sometimes people don't realize that this sunfish that they caught is actually a massive sunfish,

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or this bass they caught is actually probably a six year old bass.

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So we would always say put away the biggest fish, we never keep the biggest fish.

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They also generally contain the most heavy metals because they're consuming all of the smaller

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fish and it just accumulates over time, also because of their age.

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So we generally don't eat the biggest fish that we catch, we like to put them back because they're

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also the breeders, they're eh? the ones that are going to keep providing fish for us to keep

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enjoying for years to come.

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And we generally just try not to take anything that we're not going to eat immediately.

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We're not the kind of anglers that go out fishing to fill our freezers.

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We kind of believe against that.

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We don't think that's right.

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I mean, there's nothing wrong with keeping a couple fish in your freezer, but we know some people

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that or we've heard stories of people who go over the limit.

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There's definitely you should definitely be a little bit conservative and just just catch what you're gonna eat.

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Don't don't waste meat if you can. Yeah. I think the

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most I

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would also sorry. Just as far as, like, pollution and sustainability, people will go out and

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get fishing line, and they think, oh, I'm not gonna catch a bass that's heavier than 10 pounds.

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I only need 10 pound fishing line.

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That's not really how you judge fishing line strength, and I always like to just go a lot heavier than I need to.

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I never wanna break off on a fish.

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I never wanna have a fish, lure stuck in a fish's mouth, So I always oversize my line.

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I'm not really worried about them being picky about your fishing line and seeing your fishing line.

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Most of them don't care.

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Yeah. I was just gonna say, it is really important as far as sustainability goes to make sure

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that you are aware and familiar with the regulations in the area that you're going to be fishing.

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There are, what is it, 21 fishing management zones in Ontario.

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And so depending on where you are, the rules can be very different about what kind of fish you

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can keep, when you can fish for them.

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And then some some places have slot sizes, so you can only keep certain fish within a certain size.

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And so it's important to have tools like a measuring tape to make sure that you can check that.

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But, like, yeah, I would say as long as you are acting within the law that the regulators have

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set forth based on their science and their understanding of fish populations and the health

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of an ecosystem because they will change that as time goes on.

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If if something happens to a certain species and they need to protect that, they will ban fishing in that area.

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So just understand the regulations very well, makes you understand the slot sizes and the size

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of fish that you can keep.

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And b, this is something that I'm still trying to understand, but I think I think it's called

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a a possession limit, which means that just just because you you caught, you know, two fish

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this day and two fish this day doesn't necessarily mean that you can have them all in your possession

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at home at the same time.

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I'm not an expert on that.

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It's not like I said, I'm still learning.

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But the basis of what I'm getting at here is understand the fishing eh?.

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Read them, understand them in the zone that you're gonna be fishing, and that that will help

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to protect the species as well because that's what those are there for.

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And favorite way to prepare fish?

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Like, do you grill it over the fire?

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Do you pan fry it? Do you poach it?

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Deep fried.

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Deep fried.

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It's the simplest and easiest way to get a good tasting, meal for sure.

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But, baking fish can be so delicious with, like, a like, take a brook trout, drizzle it with

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some some maple syrup, some salt, pepper, throw it in the oven. Yeah. Bake it up.

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It's it can be very delicious.

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Just out of curiosity, not not that I expect this, but did you guys, watch the trip we did most recently with Kevin? Okay.

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I only bring it up

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because No. I I saw your shorts about it. Okay.

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And I, like, I will will watch it because put it in bust a gut and stuff, I'm sure, because that's how it

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goes with you guys. I only ask because usually, in the past, we've done fishing competitions

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with with Kevin and Ashley, which is super fun.

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But this time, we did kind of like a bit of a cook off.

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And for the meal that, Ben and I were doing, we were depending on catching walleye to make our meal.

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And so, fortunately, between Kevin and Ashley and myself, not not Eh?, but, we we caught fish

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to make to make the meal.

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And so, I almost feel like I don't want to spoil it for you guys, but maybe I will just because it's worth sharing.

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We made this I made this I say we a lot.

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Like, I really do feel like Ben and I are like just a singularity. We're just one thing.

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But obviously, that's just me.

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So I'm gonna eh?, I cooked this meal.

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We did come up with the idea eh?. And

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Thank you.

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So I prepared this meal.

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We we deep fried, filleted fish, and then I made this, sauce.

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It was maple bacon bourbon, like white gravy.

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And and then we put the the battered fried fish fillet on a waffle and drizzle that sauce over top of it.

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So it was like chicken and waffles, but we called it northern fried walleye walleye waffles.

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And it was actually pretty good.

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It There was obviously some limitations because we were cooking on a hot stove.

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Hot eh? stove.

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And, and, yeah, so it was a little challenging, but the meal itself was really good.

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So that was an interesting way to to eat fish.

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I've never eaten I've never even had chicken and waffles.

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So to eat fish on it, was interesting, but it was good.

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So, you know, something we we we plan on putting a recipe out eventually.

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So if anyone's interested, it's worth trying.

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Yeah.

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The sauce sounds amazing.

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Yeah. The waffle's a little weird. I don't I don't

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eat the waffle.

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Not for this guy.

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That's it for us for today.

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Thank you so much to Ben and Adam from Eh? for joining us, and please do check them out on YouTube.

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You're on Instagram and all the other things as well?

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Instagram, Facebook

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Eh??

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TikTok. TikTok.

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TikTok. TikTok. Of course. Yeah.

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You guys have great shorts.

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I will absolutely say that. You're you're massive.

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Thank you.

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That stuff.

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Awesome. Yeah. So do please do check them out on all the things and re reach out to us on all the things as well.

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And you can email us at hi@supergoodcamping.com. That's hi@supergoodcamping.com.

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And we will talk to you again soon. Bye.

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Bye.