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Ben Beauchamp tells us about the Huge Pike That Got Away, and more reasons to get back out there!

Pamela and Tim Good Season 1 Episode 127

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Meet Ben Beauchamp - an amazing backcountry camper and YouTube video creator. 
He made Kevin Callan's Favourite lesser Known Paddling YouTubers list in 2023!
He lives about a 3 km portage from us & drops by for a chat about camping with family, when to not take all the video gear on a trip & a very cool experience with a couple of Ontario Parks Superintendents.

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Hello and good day, eh? Welcome to the Super Good Camping podcast. My name is Pamela.

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I'm Tim and we are from supergoodcamping.com. we are here because we're on a mission to inspire

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other families to enjoy camping adventures such as we have with our kids.

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Today's guest is a social media content creator.

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He loves exploring the outdoors is pretty much in any form.

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Canoeing, hiking in the snow, sometimes solo, sometimes with pals, always epic. Please welcome Ben Beauchamp. Welcome, Ben.

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Hello. Hello, hello, hello.

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Thanks for coming out.

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Yeah, I'm fantastic. How are you guys doing?

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Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Well, we're just, we're just commenting beforehand that we have some

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blue sky here in Toronto which is amazing in the.

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Middle of winter, but yeah, it is. It's.

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I keep looking out the window like it's blue sky. The sun is out. Are you kidding me?

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Hopefully by the time so little of.

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It this, by the time this airs, we'll all be nicely sun kissed and very, very full of vitamin D. There you go.

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And hopefully, hopefully some of us you are out getting eaten alive by bugs.

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You have plans to be eaten alive by bugs in the next little while?

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I do. I always have plans to get.

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Yeah, that's, that's one of my favorite hobbies.

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What are your upcoming trips?

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So I'm actually going to be.

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My February is looking a little too busy just with some life stuff and then the outdoor adventure show.

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So I don't have anything. Oh no, sorry. I completely lied.

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The week before the outdoor adventure show.

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I was just building my calendar earlier yesterday and I was, I was kind of just roughly getting

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together some, some tripping ideas.

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But the mid February, so I think the week before the adventure show, my brother and I are gonna

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try and get out and do some winter camping which will be a lot of fun because I love my brother.

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But this will be his first time ever camping in the winter.

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So I'm gonna actually lend him my hot tent.

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I just have a one man hot tent and he'll stay nice and toasty in there and I'm gonna sleep under

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a tart next to a campfire kind of, kind of next to him there.

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We haven't really decided on a location, but we're super pumped.

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We're probably gonna try to center the trip around ice fishing.

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We're both like crazy into fishing, of course, so I don't know where we're going to go.

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It would be really cool to get into some trout through the ice, but that's kind of up in the air.

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But that will be my next trip for sure.

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Cool. Are you going to go out?

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Sorry, I didn't catch how long you're going to go for.

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Just like a weekend or.

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Yeah. We were looking at family day weekend so hopefully I'm pretty flexible with my schedule.

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But he works, he's an H vac so he's like working a ton of hours all through the week.

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But he's hoping to get the Friday off and then with family day weekend the Monday he should have off too.

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So hoping for like a four day trip and then the day after family day unrelated is actually my birthday.

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So it'll be, it'll be nice.

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Like I think we'll, we'll do that trip and then come home and have a night like you know that

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first meal back after a, after a camping trip.

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That'll be my birthday dinner. So.

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Excellent. That's a, that's a good one. Yeah.

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Big juicy steak.

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Exactly.

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So Thomas our, our eldest and I when we, when we go we make a point of stopping at somewhere. It doesn't matter. Yeah.

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And just eat some big juicy dripping with grease burger and. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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We, when I was. This was one of my first like major canoe trips back when I was much younger I think this was.

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I may have been 13 or 14.

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I went, we, we did a, like a father son trip with myself, my dad and then two other father son

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duos and we did Killarney and it was like it was an epic trip.

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But on the way back it was just like the craziest storm.

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It felt like we were in like some shipwreck movie. Right.

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And like we see lightning pull off the shore, get drenched, would clear up a little bit.

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We'd paddle a little bit longer and there's more lightning and we'd have to pull off.

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It was just like that kind of day and we were, that was like still to this date probably like

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one of the longest like most exhausting paddles ever.

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We didn't hit the shore until like 9pm that night.

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Got on the road and I don't know if you guys are familiar with.

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It's the, Is it the French River?

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Trading Post with, with the Hungry Bear?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Thomas and I have been there when we did our French River.

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Oh nice.

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That was awesome.

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I would, I would love to know how, how good that.

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Because it was closed when we came through.

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We were like talking about it for four days straight going like oh the ribs of the Hungry Bear.

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Like it's going to be so good.

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And when we passed through it was it was like completely closed.

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Mind you, it was 10 or 11 at night at that point.

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But we were so, so hungry.

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We ended up stopping in Parry sound for McDonald's or something.

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Ordered like three meals each and cleaned up.

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It was like 2am at that point, but.

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Oh, that's poopy, man.

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Oh yeah, yeah. But like we, we still, my friends and I still talk about those memories.

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It's like, like looking back there, it's always so funny. Right?

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I'm sure we've eaten at that same McDonald's on oh yeah. Before.

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That's fun.

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Yeah. Anyone with a canoe has.

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There. Well, there's a good, a good tweak in my tiny brain. What.

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How did you get into camping stuff?

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Have you always done it? Is it a. Is it a.

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Your parents did it and dragged you out? How did that play?

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Yeah, so I've always been like super into the outdoors.

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Just ever since I was a little kid.

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My family, like both sides of my family, mom and dad, they come from very adventurous families.

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Always like they always camped as, as kids and kind of if they like.

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I think both my parents as kids did like cross country road trips.

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Whether it was like east to like Vancouver or west to like the east coast or.

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Sorry, I got that backwards.

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You gotta go a long way to go east to Vancouver.

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No, they do like east coast, west coast trips and they would always camp along the way as a family. Right.

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Like rather than stay in a hotel, you go set up at a campground for a fraction of the price and.

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And it's so much more fun that way, in my opinion.

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And so that was kind of the way that we were raised.

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We're just always camping as a family.

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We do these annual trips to a Wenda Provincial park.

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Have you guys ever been there? Yeah.

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Nope.

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Oh no.

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I've read a lot about it.

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Yeah. Beautiful spot. I, I haven't been there in forever, but would highly recommend it just

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for like a car camping weekend. The beaches are stunning.

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It's like right on Georgian Bay, so you can't go wrong.

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But we, we do that kind of stuff.

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And, and my dad's from Northern Ontario.

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He's from way up in Kappa Skating, north of Timmins.

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And so that's where my grandparents lived when I was growing up.

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So we would always do like two weeks in the winter around Christmas time and then two weeks

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in the summer for like a big fishing trip.

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And so like my idea of going to visit my grandparents was just like always playing out in the bush.

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Like, like we'd go up there and if we were there for 14 days, like 10 of them would be on some dirt road.

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Like just whether it was like fishing or we didn't do too much hunting until I was like early

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teens and then I never really did again.

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It just didn't have the opportunity but just always being out in the bush and, and that was

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very much like the norm for me. It was.

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I always had so much fun with it and I loved it so much, but it wasn't, I don't remember being

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like crazy about it until I stopped doing it so much.

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And like when we got to high school and kind of life started getting a little busier, we started

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doing like camping as a family.

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I missed it so much and I was like, okay, like I need to get back into this.

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Like, and so then I didn't camp it from like maybe age 18 to like 21 and I just kind of got away from it.

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And my cousin who, he actually lives out in B.C. now, like living the dream.

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He's, he's sending me all these photos of like skiing in the powder and he's in Canmore or. No, no, no, that's. He moved Alberta.

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I can't remember where it is in, in bc.

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He's going to kill me for this.

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But he, he lived in Canmore, Alberta, but then, oh, Cranbrook, that's where he is in, in B.C. now.

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So beautiful area anywhere you are out there.

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But he was bugging me for, for like three summers saying like we got to go camping. Like we got to.

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He, he hiked a lot of the Bruce Trail and a couple, they live in Aurelia.

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So pretty much easy access to so much good camping area.

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Just like within an hour of Orillia.

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And he was bugging me and bugging me and I, I always wanted to.

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There was never a reason that I, I didn't go with him.

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I was just like working in the summers and then I got busy and then there was pandemic and all

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this kind of stuff and then we finally got out and we just, we did like a three day hike in

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Queen Elizabeth Wildlands and it was like just life changing for me. It was.

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I, I just like a, a switch flicked in my brain and I was like, wow, like why, why did I stop doing this? And I.

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All the credit to him for finally like dragging me out there and we had so much fun.

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And then I like from then on I, I did a trip with my brother after that and then I did a solo

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trip and then I actually, I filmed that Solo trip.

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I just wanted to kind of capture, like, the experience and then decided to share it on YouTube.

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And I never looked back. I just.

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Every camping trip I've done, I just kept filming it and sharing it.

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And I'm always trying to get better and better with how I share the story.

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And basically everything I do now revolves around camping.

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Like, how can I make this next camping trip happen?

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How can I make enough money to cover my rent and food just so I can go camping for a week at

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the end of the month? So, yep, it's. And I.

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I love it so much. It's.

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It's really kind of given me a sense of purpose.

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And like, this may sound too dramatic, but, like, it's a reason to get up in the morning.

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It's like, okay, like, I wanna.

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I want to be healthy.

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I want to be in my best shape so that I can continue doing this for.

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For a very long time. Right.

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That's nice.

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1.

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Other content creators have said sometimes that they felt that always filming and always trying

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to capture things took away a little bit from their experience of the actual adventure of the camping.

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Do you find that as well?

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Or do you kind of step away sometimes and just enjoy the experience?

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And then other times you're. You're about the filming.

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You know what? I want to talk about both sides of that, because first, firstly, I'll say I love,

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like, the filmmaking aspect of it.

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I love videography so much, and that's always been something that I've loved just as much as the outdoors.

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Always, like, making little videos in my backyard.

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When I was like, 8 years old, even I would.

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We actually, my childhood home backed onto a, like, series of, like, six corn fields. So big, big cornfields. And there was.

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In between the fields, there were like, these little, like, forested areas.

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And so we would always, like, build forts in there.

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And like, that was always kind of our.

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Like, that felt like that may as well have been as wild as Wabakimi or something to me at that time. Right. Like, we.

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We felt like we were in the back country.

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And meanwhile, like, there was like a highway like, 100ft away. But we.

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There was a hill there.

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And so we were always snowboarding back there.

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And just no matter what we were doing back there, I was always filming it.

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And I would always, like, make these little edits to music and stuff. And so I. I've. That.

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That videography aspect has always been with me.

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And then I went to school for it.

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We were talking a little bit before this about Humber.

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I went to like a media program in school and that was like kind of a multifaceted program with

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all aspects of media with like video, photography, graphic design, web design.

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There was a little bit of marketing in there which were all useful tools in, in what I do now.

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But video has always been like my main thing and it's always been a big passion of mine.

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So like when I go out on these trips, it, it is very fulfilling for me to be filming and creating and like that.

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I always find that maybe it'll, it'll take a day or two, but I always enter this like flow state

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of creation and I just like totally get in the zone.

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Even doesn't matter if it's like a weekend trip or, or a two week long trip, I like just feel

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like that's when I'm most focused and it's kind of like when, when I'm filming out there, it's,

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it's like everything I'm shooting is like, oh my gosh, this is going to be so good. Like.

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But I will say that that's huge.

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Especially when I'm doing these solo trips because it's something for me to do.

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Like, like there's anyone that camps, especially like backcountry camping, there is a lot of

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work that goes into the day, like getting food ready and setting your tent up or if you're moving cancer. Yeah, yeah.

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And, and I find when I'm solo camping, like if I'm, if I'm not dragging my butt that day and

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I get all that done, it's almost like, okay, what not.

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I shouldn't say like what now?

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Because there's still a lot, like lots you can do to stay entertained.

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But I just find I love putting my time into this video creation.

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But looking at the other side of that, when I'm with other people, whether it be like a trip

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with my girlfriend or I've done a trip with my brother or this doesn't really apply to other

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content creators because they're in the same video creation mode.

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It does get in the way when I'm, when I'm with my girlfriend, especially like nothing and she's

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super cool with me like creating and filming everything.

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But that's when I mostly want to just like, I just want to like relax.

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I just want to like spend time with, with my loved ones and that's when I do just want to enjoy my time camping.

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So I, I wouldn't say that takes away from the experience, but I did a trip this past summer

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with my girlfriend where I didn't bring the camera at all.

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And that was, it was fantastic.

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And I think that's where you need to find that. That balance.

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So I do like, set time aside to, to just focus on.

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On hanging out rather than worrying about the video.

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But it is nice afterwards too, to look back on the experience. It. It's so cool.

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Like my brother and I did killarney in 2022 and like, whenever we get together, like, we still

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throw that video on just to relive the trip. Right. So much fun. But yeah, I. I don't know.

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I think there's definitely a balance. But.

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But for solo trips, I love the creation side. That's.

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That's all I want to say.

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I don't want to ramble on too much about this, but I, I do love the video and, and I think that

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is part of the experience rather than taking away from it.

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Cool. Well, yeah, and I, I hear you about, about having those, those memories.

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Like, you know anybody that goes to our YouTube channel? We.

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I've only got a half a dozen maybe videos of, you know, us, wherever, doing whatever. I have dozens.

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I've got a massive hard drive that's just chalk full of it.

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I watch them once in a while. I'm also lazy.

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I don't want to edit them, but I've got those, like, I can go back and look and, and see when,

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you know, our kids were, were much, much shorter and, you know, missing their two front teeth

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and stuff like that while we were out camping at wherever.

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So that's, it's, it's cool stuff.

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Question for you in, in the con, in the creation of, of your content. I've heard something.

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I don't, I don't know for sure, but I think it's something that has happened very seldom. So.

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So flying a drone over Ontario Provincial parks is a no. No.

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Unless you have permission from the park superintendent.

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Literally, you're the only person I've ever heard of that got that permission.

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How the heck did you do that?

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I may edit this out.

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I may not share this secret with anybody else, but just for myself, if.

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I tell you, I will have to kill you.

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Yeah. Actually, so I've done that twice now.

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The first one was at nagogam Assist Provincial park, which is way, way up north.

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That's kind of between Hearst and Long Lack. And so that's.

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That's way, way up north.

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Oh, yes. Yeah. So my, my dad, like I said, is from Kappa Skating, so he's got a buddy that has

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a cabin out there that my dad has been going to since high school.

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And so that's where we've, we've gone to.

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I don't know if you saw my, the video where I had that super blue water.

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Yes.

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Yeah. And then so in we, we did a. 10 days or 14 days up at that cabin and while we were there

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I, I did like a four day trip and then I came back to the cabin and then another four day trip. Sorry.

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Like a remote, like my dad dropped me off in the woods. Right.

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And so before that I reached out to. So that's on.

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The cabin is on Nagogamus Lake, which is part of Nagamus Provincial Park.

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And I had actually wanted to paddle into like a little section of the park to film a trip, but

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unfortunately I never even got to because the water was like the ice had just come off and the

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water was like super high and the section that I wanted to paddle was like whatever, like Class 4 rapids.

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And I just couldn't even get the canoe in there.

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It was like too intense.

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But beforehand I, this is, this is so nice.

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Like just such a wholesome moment.

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I remember I emailed the park just saying like, hey, is there any chance I can get in contact with the superintendent?

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I've, I would love to, to fly the drone and kind of proposed a deal to them that if I, if they

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gave me permission to fly it that they could have the footage.

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They could like put it on their website if they want and like no money involved, they can just

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like one for one trade.

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And I got an email back.

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I, I can't remember exactly how it went, but I think he emailed me back just saying like, I'm

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sorry, there's, there's not really much I can do.

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Like you would need like a permit. And like.

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And I, oh, I, I told him that's what it was.

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I told him that I was, I wanted to go into these certain lakes and where it was there was a

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road that washes out every springtime or, or every other spring.

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And just the way that the creek runs through the culvert, it's just like such a susceptible area.

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And I remember he emailed me back saying like, I'd love to give you permission, but there's

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a little bit of a process that we have to go through.

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And that lake that you want to go to, that there's no way you're getting in there.

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And so I emailed him back saying like, oh, I would, I'd be interested to hear like the process,

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like whatever we can do.

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And, and I want this to Be like a win for both parties.

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And we also have like ATVs.

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We're going to be staying at a cabin on Nagamis Lake.

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I basically explained to him that like I'm familiar with the area.

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And he called me right after I said, like, please call me if you want to hear any details.

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He's like, oh you, you should have said you had ATVs.

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Like you're getting in there, like you'll be fine.

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And it was almost like he, he was like a little bit concerned that I was just like some random

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dude just wanting to come up and like just explore like this, this super remote wilderness and

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really, really nice guy over the phone and he actually sent me like the official. There's, there's a.

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Oh man, I can't remember the term for it, but it's basically like a permit that like gives me

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access to fly my aircraft in, in within the park boundary.

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So this would be, I assume what would be similar to if you wanted to land a float plane like

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in one of the lakes parks or sorry, the parks lakes.

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And it was so he, so I did that and he actually wanted footage of this certain waterfall that was in the area.

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He said, like, I haven't been in there in forever and if you could, I'll give you permission

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as long as you send me this footage of this waterfall.

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So I did that and, and then I filmed my camping video and I, and I sent it all to him and then

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he got back to me like about a week later saying awesome footage, thank you so much.

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I've sent your video to the Ontario Parks Superintendent group chat.

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So he said if, if you ever need to reach out to any other parks, there's a good chance they'll

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be familiar with your name.

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And when I saw that I was like freaking out.

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I was going like, come on, you didn't have to do that.

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And I was still, I'm still like to this day still like I consider myself to be starting out.

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Like I'm a beginner at all of this, but I was so fresh and like I'm, I'm just like trying to

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network, trying to, trying to get my name out there and this guy's like sending me out to like all of the parks.

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And so I was like totally freaking out over that.

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So I'd actually reached it.

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So fast forward about a month and a half I was.

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Had this tomogamy trip planned and I reached out to the uh, tomogamy. Like there's, there's.

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It's kind of complicated how tomogamy works, but there's like a cluster of all these different

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parks, but I think they were all run by this same superintendent.

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And I emailed him and totally name dropped the guy from nagogam Assist.

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And I said, hey, like so and so may have shared this video with you, blah, blah, blah.

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And so I emailed him and he called me.

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He's like, oh, no way. You talked to Dave? Like, I love Dave. Great guy.

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And so it was like, kind of like I was so nervous about, about like talking like these, these

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are like big names, like superintendents of these big parks. And, and.

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But when they called me, it just felt so human and so wholesome.

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Like they were just like, oh, yeah, Dave sent you over here.

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And so I was able to say same deal.

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So I got had to like, fill out this, this form for their marketing team saying that I'm a videographer

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coming into the park with my aircraft and they, they can have all rights to the footage.

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So, so I sent it to the superintendent in Tomogamy and I don't know if they're ever going to use it. I haven't seen anything.

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But they have full rights to that footage, which that deal at the time still made sense to do.

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But I'm like totally waiting to see like my footage in, in Ontario parks commercial.

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And I wouldn't have any credit.

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They wouldn't even have to name drop me, so.

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Which would kind of suck.

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But it was worth it at the time.

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But at the end of the day, I'm, I'm super grateful for all of that because at least I have those connections now.

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And, and it's, it's just, it's just nice.

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Even if it's not this summer or next summer or maybe it's not even for.

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From five years from now.

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I, at least I can be like a familiar face to them if I ever want to try and like, collab with, with Ontario parks.

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Like, I just feel, feel like that's more possible now.

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So I, I wanted to, I said this, and we talked a little bit about this on Canoe Hounds, but,

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and I, I wanted to make it clear that I don't know if they like pulled strings for me or if

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they, if that's like standard protocol.

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So I don't, I wouldn't like, recommend that to people, but what I will recommend is that if,

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if you want to try and do something, like, all you got to do is ask, like, just like reach out to people.

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I think that doesn't hurt.

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And the worst they can say is no.

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So I think that's, there's, there's something to be said about just like, see what you can do.

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Yeah, well, yeah, you're right. It's.

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It's funny because it wasn't until, until after I'd heard you'd got permission that I went back

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and reread the, the Ontario parks.

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I, I'm, I'm a bit of a nut and I, and I do stuff like read the rules and that sort of jazz and

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see what the updates are. Right.

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Yeah.

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So, so it, it, the way that it's worded, it's very, it's very put offish.

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Like, it's like they're trying to keep you from bugging them. Don't. Don't bring the drone. Don't ask us.

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We're going to make life difficult and you're going to hear no in the end anyhow. So it's.

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And I mean, I totally get it because they'd be just inundated if somebody went, hey, it's really

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easy to do and no problems. Like, oh, okay.

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There'd be just drones everywhere, which would make everybody insane as well, that buzzing and stuff.

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And that's not even like my, My goal has always been to, to promote the outdoors and, and I

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want to share the camping experience.

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I definitely do not want to like, promote drone usage or anything.

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That's just kind of a tool that I use to, to give perspective of the area that I'm in.

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But you're right, like, if.

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Could you imagine like some of those, like, main corridors in Algonquin or there's like 500

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people on a campsite or on a.

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On lake and they're just.

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Everyone has a drone corner.

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It's everywhere. Yeah, no, there's, well, there's plenty of, there's plenty of drone footage

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of Ontario parks out there. They. There and they're.

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I'm trying to use a word that's.

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I'm not going to have to edit out.

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They're, they're dupes about it, you know what I mean?

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Like, like, they're, they're right there. There's.

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They're over top of other people that are paddling through. It's like.

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And you know that they didn't ask them if that was cool and stuff.

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It's like, come on, man.

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People are trying to be outside enjoying the, Enjoying nature. Just. Yeah, bugger off.

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And as chill as the superintendents were with me, both of them, in both cases were very, very

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clear with me with like, the conditions that I had to follow.

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Like, you Film, like, only film your own campsite.

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Only, like, film your own area. Do not harass wildlife.

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Do not go near anyone else that you see in the bush.

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And like, that was like a contract that I had to sign.

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I could have, like, if I broke any of those rules.

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There were big charges and.

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Yeah, I'm sure there were.

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And, and, and the fact that probably the fact that you're in fairly remote areas, like, even

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much as everybody has heard of tomogamy, there's not a lot of traffic through there. Right.

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So you, you would be, you would be interfering in other people's trips, much less regardless of what you did.

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Yeah, yeah, but, yeah, again, like, I, I would be so upset if I was just sitting at a campsite

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and a freaking drone comes down. Like, imagine that.

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Yeah, they just start throwing rocks and sticks.

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I know how much that drone costs.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. Hopefully you got the warranty.

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How do you like me now? Cool.

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Well, I'm glad you did.

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And I hope everybody listening is, is getting the fact that it's.

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It's to show the beauty of the things not to be making people or animals crazy. Right. Just saying.

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Just let's put that disclaimer in there.

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I want to circle back.

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You were talking about fishing. What's. Tell us.

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Tell us a fishing story.

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Just, just pull one out of your butt.

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Oh, my goodness.

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One of the coolest fishing stories you've ever had.

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Oh, okay.

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Photographic evidence of you with a massive pike on Spanish river trip. Whistle.

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Yes. Yes.

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That was huge fish. My goodness.

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You know, I'm, I'm thinking here because I don't.

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I'm not trying to find a fishing story.

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I'm trying to decide which of the hundreds I want to tell.

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But that, that hike on the Spanish river was, was like a crazy one that was with Tosh, self

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propelled, who I did that trip with, who's also a fellow YouTuber for, for those of you who

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don't know, but probably everyone has heard of him at this point, but that day, like, we were both, we.

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That night we were sitting next to the campfire, just chatting away, going, like, what did we deserve?

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Like, what did we do to deserve a day like that?

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We, we had like spent the entire morning running these beautiful rapids and there was like no slip ups at all.

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Like, we were just cruising through like perfectly through the rapids.

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And then at the end of the day, we, we decided to do some fishing.

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And like, instantly, I think I caught like two or three bass.

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I got a walleye and then he was paddling.

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We had gotten to this lake that we were gonna camp at that night.

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And he was, like, way, way up ahead of me, like, probably, like, 500 yards ahead.

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And it was, like, dead silent glass lake.

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And the sun was just starting to set. And I was.

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I could hear his drag going, like, like, that far away.

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He was just, like, really something crazy. And he.

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He, like, I could tell that he.

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So he was paddling, like, ahead of me, like, like, straight.

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And then I could hear his drag and his canoe did this. And I.

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So I could tell that he was, like, reeling in something that was, like, pulling him around. And so as I.

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I, like, pulled up, like, probably maybe like 250 yards away from him, I yelled to him. I was like, hey.

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Like, was that a big fish?

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And all I hear, he goes, it was effing huge.

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He's at this huge bass.

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So then we get to the campsite.

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It's this gorgeous spot, and we're all excited, like, we've got this fish dinner. We're clean. We had two bass.

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One of them was his, his massive one.

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And then we had a nice walleye, and we were cleaning them up and just, like, chatting away about

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how magnificent that day was. And I was.

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I was cleaning these fish, like, right on the shoreline.

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And as I was cleaning them, I was throwing the guts in the water, and there was, like, a little

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weed bed right off the rock that we were camped on.

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And I was, like, kind of tossed them into the weed bed.

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And all of a sudden, as I'm, like, cleaning these fish, there was, like, a huge swirl in the

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water, and then a big splash.

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And I, like, started freaking out. It scared me.

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And turns out I knew instantly it was a big pike that was, like.

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Like eating all these guts that I was throwing in the water.

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And I want to clarify, I don't think that chumming the water is legal in Canada, but I wasn't.

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I wasn't, like, intentionally chumming.

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I was just tossing the guts.

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I wanted them away from the campsite.

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And as soon as I saw that, I grabbed my rod and tossed it in and. And instantly the.

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The pike took it and just dragged my line out like, a hundred feet.

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And, like, there's, like, the.

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The footage is all on YouTube from my Spanish river trip.

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But you could see, like, Tosh running to me with his camera.

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The footage is all janky. He's like. And.

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And I'm just, like, giggling like a little girl, like, reeling this thing in.

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And finally we got it up, and it was just huge and, like.

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Like, Again we were just so like, like baffled by the fact that like we had already had this amazing fishing day.

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We already had fish to eat.

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We did not deserve this.

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It was just such a cherry on top of the day.

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And then it ended up like being one of the most beautiful nights.

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We woke up the next morning and it was like it actually, a storm was rolling in.

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But right before it was like the sky was super dark but the sun was shining through and it was

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just this like golden contrast on like a super dark sky.

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And that it was peak fall colors like that, that 48 hours was like some of my best like all summer.

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It was just so much fun.

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Like I still can't get over that, that, that huge bike and like this summer.

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So I, I fished my entire life.

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Like I think I caught my first fish when I was three years old.

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That was another thing that was talked a little bit about on, on Canoe Hound.

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And then from then on like, like I said, we did two weeks every summer up in Northern Ontario

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and that's like world class walleye fishing up there.

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And so I was always spoiled with fishing as a little kid and always like just obsessed with it.

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And I remember actually, well, I don't actually remember this happening, but my dad was telling

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me that when I was about six or seven years old it was like January or February and I was in

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the basement and I came upstairs crying and my dad's like, oh, what's wrong? What's wrong?

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And I was like all teary eyed going, I don't know if I like fishing anymore.

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He was like, what, where, where did this come. It's February.

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You don't have to, you don't have to love fishing right now.

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And I just like, like got all like worked up because I, I wasn't like craving fishing at that time and.

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But I was always like just so crazy about.

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I don't know where that, that came from but.

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But then like this past year I just spent so much like I had a total shift where all of my time

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like, like I said, everything was going into camping and, and a big part of my camping experiences is always fishing.

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I like, I like very often will base my trips around fishing and where the best fishing spots are and stuff.

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So this past year I, I put more time into fishing than I ever have and it totally paid off.

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Like I, this, this summer I caught my first lake trout.

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I caught like I had never done too much trout fishing, but this past summer I caught a bunch

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of brook trout when we were up north, which I had never caught before.

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I caught my first splake.

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I caught like my top 10 biggest pike ever, bunch of walleye.

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It, like, it just totally spoiled this past summer.

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And I, I still like, I, I don't know if I've gotten my fix yet.

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Like I said, in February, my brother and I are going ice fishing.

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But yeah, I just love it so much.

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Yeah, I'm trying to think like, what's another good fishing story? We.

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I'll send you guys a video.

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I'm not, I'm not quite sure if I want to share it to the public just yet.

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Maybe by the time that it's this, this podcast airs, maybe I'll share it.

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But we have footage of when I think I was like 7 or 8 years old and my brother was, well, he

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would have been like five or six at the time.

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And he was, we were fishing with my dad in this, this little boat that our friend had at their cottage.

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And, and we had caught like, there's one of the, we're just going for sunfish and like little

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perch and rock bass and stuff.

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And he, he hooked into like a pretty nice smallmouth.

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And we, it's all on footage where he is reeling this thing in.

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And like my, my dad is like commentating, saying, like, oh, like, does it feel big, buddy? And he's like, yep.

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He's like, I think it's a big one.

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And, and then he pulls it in and it was like it was a decent sized smallmouth.

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Like, it was like, we figured it was like 15 inches.

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And as he pulled it over, we all like had our reactions and I, I, for whatever reason, I always

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comment on like the size of the fish.

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I was like, oh, I think, I think that's a 15 incher.

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And my dad was like, good job, buddy.

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And my brother had his reaction.

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And then so I created this video where fast forward like 10 years.

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We were in our boat out on Lake Simcoe and my brother hooked into a five pound smallmouth.

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This is like for people that don't swam out fish. So that's a lunker.

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And I did a comparison video where when he caught this little fish when he was a little kid.

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And then fast forward to when we were teenagers and he caught this five pounder.

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All of our reactions were bang on. They never changed.

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I was like, oh, it's a five pounder.

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And my dad was like, good job, buddy.

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It was the exact same.

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So that's on, on an old YouTube channel that I think I've got 100 subscribers on that, that

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I had in high school.

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I, like, I said I'll send you guys the video, but.

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And I'll share it to the public at some point.

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But that was a pretty cool video that just kind of captures the, the essence of our.

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Like, I would love to say too that the, the fishing is also like a huge thing for family time too.

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Like, like, that's one thing that, like, I spend a ton of time with my, my brother and my dad

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in the boat and my mom too.

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Like, she, she loves, she's not as big into the fishing, but she loves the family time.

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But we would, like when I would go fishing with my dad, it would start off like we'd just be

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chatting away in the boat or whatever.

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And then we'd get tell, like, start telling old stories and stuff.

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And then like a lot of times it would be like a Tuesday night, we'd be out on Lake Simcoe and

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it would turn into like a full blown therapy session.

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And, and like, that's when we would like, most connect. Right?

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And it's funny, like my, it got to the point where like, if in high school, like, if I would

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be going through something, maybe I'm feeling down or whatever, feeling stressed out and like

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my mom would be trying to like, help me out and just say like, hey, like, like, what's going on, buddy? Like, is everything okay?

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And like, yeah, fine, I'm fine, whatever.

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And then it gets to the point where she would just say to my dad, okay, like, something's bugging him.

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You gotta take him fishing.

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We'd go fishing and everything would be okay.

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And it was just like, what happens in the boat stays in the boat.

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So I can't tell you what, what we talked about, but it's, that's, that's a big portion of it

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is the family time too.

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And that's something I would love to, to pass on to my kids too, as well.

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Like the thing that's, that's also camping as well.

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You guys camp as a family.

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You know what it is?

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Yeah. Well, that's. I have to agree.

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That's some of the, Some of the coolest, coolest times is that all four of us jump in the boat

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up at the cottage or whatever and, and, and bug out at, you know, crack of dawn, spend an hour

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and a half catching diddly squats and. But hanging out.

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It's, you know, it's nice, it's quiet. It's.

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Yep.

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Back home for a breakfast, you know, it's. Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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That and sitting around the campfire at the End of the day, just like watching the fire, you know that it's.

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It'S actually, I saw it somewhere.

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I got to look it up again.

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But there's, there's like scientific studies about how campfires, like sitting around a campfire.

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Like, I don't know exactly what percentage it is, but it's like you're like 50% more likely

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to have a deeper conversation around a campfire.

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There's something psychological about it, which totally makes sense to me.

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Like I, I feel like sitting around a campfire, it doesn't matter if it's with friends or family, whatever.

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Like the conversation gets pretty wild.

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Yeah, well, and you're, you're all sort of sharing an experience regardless of whether, whether

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again, it's at the cottage front country, back country.

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It doesn't, doesn't really matter.

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It's in your backyard, whatever.

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Yeah, it's a, it's the communing with nature thing.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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That's it for us for today.

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Thank you so much to our special guest, Ben Beauchamp for joining us.

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Please do check him out. He.

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Check out his YouTube channel.

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He's Ben Beauchamp, which is Ben.

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B E A U C H A M P For the non French speakers, Ben Beauchamp.

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And also on Instagram, he's got some awesome pictures.

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Check out the the White Phase Gray Wolf on Instagram. It's pretty cool picture.

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And we will talk to you again soon. I'm Pamela.

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I'm Tim.

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