{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":11.4,"endTime":12.44,"body":"Welcome."},{"startTime":12.44,"endTime":16.68,"body":"You're listening to Mark and Jacky's"},{"startTime":12.44,"endTime":16.68,"body":"wildlife and photography podcast."},{"startTime":17.2,"endTime":21.24,"body":"Explore, learn about the natural world"},{"startTime":17.2,"endTime":21.24,"body":"and how to take pictures."},{"startTime":21.84,"endTime":24.08,"body":"This podcast is all about photography."},{"startTime":24.4,"endTime":26.72,"body":"Our aim is to help you"},{"startTime":24.4,"endTime":26.72,"body":"improve your pictures."},{"startTime":27.32,"endTime":29.76,"body":"It doesn't matter what camera you use."},{"startTime":29.76,"endTime":34.08,"body":"We want to stimulate your creative side,"},{"startTime":29.76,"endTime":34.08,"body":"get you taking pictures"},{"startTime":34.44,"endTime":36.44,"body":"that you will want to share with other people."},{"startTime":45.36,"endTime":49.04,"body":"Episode 13 Finding Wildlife to photograph."},{"startTime":50.16,"endTime":52.32,"body":"We are wildlife and nature photographers,"},{"startTime":52.88,"endTime":56.36,"body":"and one of the biggest challenges"},{"startTime":52.88,"endTime":56.36,"body":"we face on almost daily basis"},{"startTime":56.84,"endTime":59.36,"body":"is finding subjects to photograph,"},{"startTime":59.36,"endTime":62.64,"body":"and it appears that we're not"},{"startTime":59.36,"endTime":62.64,"body":"the only ones that have this problem."},{"startTime":63.16,"endTime":66.84,"body":"As this episode has been inspired"},{"startTime":63.16,"endTime":66.84,"body":"by a question that we got"},{"startTime":66.84,"endTime":69.52,"body":"from one of our listeners and he asked."},{"startTime":69.88,"endTime":72.72,"body":"Where do you find subjects to photograph?"},{"startTime":73.68,"endTime":76.92,"body":"So this"},{"startTime":73.68,"endTime":76.92,"body":"episode is all about where you can find"},{"startTime":76.92,"endTime":79.96,"body":"your subjects to photograph"},{"startTime":76.92,"endTime":79.96,"body":"if you're a wildlife photographer."},{"startTime":80.68,"endTime":83.08,"body":"The first thing I should mention is that"},{"startTime":83.28,"endTime":86.76,"body":"we don't really specialise"},{"startTime":83.28,"endTime":86.76,"body":"in one particular type of wildlife."},{"startTime":87.12,"endTime":90.68,"body":"We try and cover"},{"startTime":87.12,"endTime":90.68,"body":"at least three of the five Wildlife"},{"startTime":90.68,"endTime":95.96,"body":"Kingdoms. 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