Tyler Deveraux: 0:07
All right. Aloha my friends are welcome to another Aloha Friday drip dude, pump be here, pump chat, pump to dive

Jackson Campbell: 0:14
in, bro. It's actually Friday too. We don't usually record on Friday. Nope. You are headed outta town next week. So we're like, oh geez. We better hurry. Snag. Another episode before tide dips on out of

Tyler Deveraux: 0:23
town. So now people know that we don't record on Fri. We're

Jackson Campbell: 0:25
recording on Friday though. No, we've already said it. We our loyalists, they know they knows

Tyler Deveraux: 0:30
kidding. Yeah, dude, I'm pumped about that. I'm going to Miami and I'm gonna go to a mastermind with, in fact, as you're listening to this, I'll be in Miami with the mastermind with. GC Grant Cardone, small little, in intimate group of people, probably 50, 60 people, something like that. And I am super pumped about that. If you don't know who

Jackson Campbell: 0:49
grant Cardone is, he also acquires a little bit of real

0:52
estate.

Tyler Deveraux: 0:52
Yeah. He's to keep up with us, but whatever. No, he's a study. I'm very excited to go learn and meet, learn from grant and just meet people that are there. I love doing

Jackson Campbell: 1:02
that kind of stuff. Yeah. Tight. Why? Before we dive into the episode, why do you, cause whenever these opportunities pop up, you jump all over. 'em all over and you want to be there and you want to really immerse yourself with these other individuals. Why is that

Tyler Deveraux: 1:15
dude? Because I have, I feel this huge sense of responsibility to grow, like to grow, because as I grow, I believe that this is my belief. Okay. My belief is that if I stop growing, I lose my ability to lead others. And my, literally my job and my, I believe my calling in life is to lead and inspire and help other people. And so anytime that I can go and learn, I'm never going there. And this is gonna be a life changing event. I'm going there to learn this one little bit that can enhance here this one little bit that can enhance here to have somebody to, meet somebody that we're gonna talk about thinking bigger today and, meet somebody that thinks bigger than I do. And do grant Cardone thinks big. He thinks big, very big and people that will be in this circle think big. So that's awesome. This just wanna surround myself with people that are doing bigger things that I'm doing all the time, and

Jackson Campbell: 2:02
it's a great actionable there too great example of what everybody should be doing. No matter what stage you're. At our last episode, we talked about seasons and how we go through seasons in life. And as we. You should always be looking to surround yourself by somebody that's just a little bit in front of you. Yeah. That you're trying to chase. That's gonna expand you in every which

Tyler Deveraux: 2:20
way. So it's funny, bro, because I got this opportunity shout out to Steve Harvard with PCs prime corporate services, man, that guy's a, just an absolute Stu and I was chatting with him and I got brought up randomly and I mentioned something along the lines of how much I love going to masterminds. He's dude, I actually randomly, I have this opportunity. There's limited seats, but I happen to have are you interested? And I'm like AB so freaking Lely. I'm like, dude, let me just check with Bri. Make sure like a hernia text, make sure that, the dates are good. That I there's nothing I'm missing text Brett. And then Bri calls me and she's did you really just ask me that? Go get outta here. That's an awesome opportunity. Get outta here. And I'm like, I freaking love you. Yeah, you that's. Yeah.

Jackson Campbell: 3:01
That's awesome, man. That's awesome. Yeah. I'm excited to hear about that and how it goes. Excited to share

Tyler Deveraux: 3:05
about what I learned. Yeah. That's what I do.

Jackson Campbell: 3:07
Maybe that's what we do on the next episode. Love it. Little grant card owned weekend review. Love it. I'm done. Done. Let's do it. Awesome topic today. Okay. Is there anything else you wanted to go over before we dive into the topic? No, I'm ready. Just a reminder rate review, share it. That's the only thing we ask people to do. We're

Tyler Deveraux: 3:23
noticing it by the way we are noticing it. Appreciate it so much, man. And we're noticing it on and listen, we put, I hope you see, I know you see that we put time effort thought into these drips. Dallas, does you guys doing your extended cuts? We do on these ones. And so we hope that it's resonating. We hope that you're taking those kind of things. And we, I love that you're sharing. I promise you. We see that. And we see our numbers growing. That's because of y'all and we just appreciate it a ton.

Jackson Campbell: 3:52
Absolutely. You. Thank you. Thank you. Absolutely. Along those lines, what Tyler was just talking about going down and meeting with grant Cardone, and then coming back and teaching us. It's another great, actionable, another challenge that I'd like to give everybody take something that you've learned from the growth cast, share the episode, but then follow up with that person and chat about what you've learned, what they could learn and how you can implement it in your life to become better. I like that, man. So that's gonna be my challenge for everybody this weekend. Great challenge. Do that. And if this is your first time listening to the growth cast, welcome Monday through Thursday, we have episodes with Dallas Pruitt where he does daily drips, daily mindset, drips to just keep you motivated and keep you going. Listen. Absolutely amazing.

Tyler Deveraux: 4:23
Freaking

Jackson Campbell: 4:23
love listening to those things. Fantastic episodes. It's been an honor to edit those and be able to listen to those. And it's awesome. I've been forced to listen to 'em I'm very grateful for that. Yeah. I would listen to 'em when it's an option it's I'm gonna continue to listen to 'em. But Monday through Thursday, we do those. Friday me and Tyler here for Aloha Friday and then on Saturday is an extended cut with me in Dallas, where we talk about another mindset principle. So if you're just joining us welcome, we're happy to have you here. Please continue to come back and listen. We would love to have you here.

Tyler Deveraux: 4:52
Aloha. Aloha.

Jackson Campbell: 4:53
Welcome. Awesome. Okay. So the topic today is going to be, what does it mean to think bigger? And then we're gonna dive into where you came up with that tagline. And then if you can give us some examples of what it is to think bigger to you love it before we dive in. Dude. I remember when you came back for, I don't know if you plan on talking about this, but you came back from that week with is it I always wanna say the name, right? Is it AK R say? Yeah. R a R a. Yep. You came back and that was one of the very first things you told me. It was like just being around those individuals, being around ed and Andy. Really forced you to think bigger totally. To like things you've never even thought about before. Yep. So it's it, that, that was awesome. I hope we dive into that today. I don't know if we plan on too, but I definitely want to just figure out how we can all surround ourselves with people that can think bigger.

Tyler Deveraux: 5:39
So well, that in and of itself is a better question. Like how can I think bigger? How am I thinking smaller? If we can just recognize that in our lives, that opens up so many opportunities okay, in this situation right now, how am I thinking smaller and how could I think bigger? How should I think bigger? How does it make sense? Yeah. How would somebody that you're, aspiring to be like, how would they think in this situation? How would they act in this situation? Love it. Great.

Jackson Campbell: 6:05
Okay. Okay. Awesome. Love it. Okay. So let's dive in here then. Dude, what does it mean to think bigger. Okay.

Tyler Deveraux: 6:10
So lemme tell you where I came up with this. And if you don't know, once again, if you're new to the growth cast, new to what, everything that we do here. Okay. The growth cast is hosted is. Sponsored by there we go by the multi-family mindset. That's our education company. Now we train people how to buy apartment buildings. And so as we created the multi-family mindset, where that in and of itself, that name has tons of purpose behind it. It's not just some random name. It's, we there's purpose behind all of them, man. Like multifamily is a mindset and then the tagline is think bigger and think bigger is it's more than just, so if you think about this, I bullet point some of these items, but I there's, I think we, I bullet pointed like six, six items that it applies to and there's actually, there's more, but honestly here's how it came to six. It was time to record yeah. But I'll give you an idea of this, think bigger before you dive

Jackson Campbell: 7:06
into the six, though, it's really important to pull that out. The thinking bigger, we're gonna go over six examples. Yeah. But thinking bigger can be. Applied to more than six part of six parts of your life is I'm trying say. And so take these examples, but it can also be,

Tyler Deveraux: 7:20
I promise you it'll open your upper mind to things and I promise you that it will even help you understand, even on a deeper level, how purposeful things are. I'll tell you how, where we came up with this, where the tag, where we came up with the tagline, cuz we thought we listed out tons. didn't show you an Evernote that I just, we all just brainstorm brainstorm. Then I was starting to think and I go back to certain books for inspiration. And one of my favorite all time books that I've ever read is the magic of thinking big by David Schwartz. Amazing book. And if you haven't read that book, you should write that down. In fact, don't even write it down, just go to Amazon and buy that mother. Hit pause, go buy it, come back. It's a great book. It's literally what Dave Linda referred that book to. Actually, he didn't refer it to me. He referred it to, I heard him talking to somebody else and he referred magic of thinking big. And I was like, oh, I've never heard that, wrote her down, read it. And it's one of my, a time favorite books, great book. And it's essentially how to get the most out of every single aspect of your life. Like you don't have to be unique or this super talented person to cultivate success. You cultivate success but you do have to think in a certain way to cultivate that success. That's what the book talks about. Okay. Like you have to think in a certain way to cultivate success. And it's something that I'm always trying to challenge myself on. Always trying to think bigger. Brittany is amazing at that aspect. We just had a conversation last night on the way Britney has a goal to go to the beach every night or every day and yesterday she hadn't made it to the beach. And so we just took a walk down to the beach for sunset. We do that a lot. We can walk from our back porch and. Just little subtle flex that if we can walk from our back porch, no big deal. it's because I think bigger pay a fucking attention. little subtle flex there. Little subtle flex But we were talking about, I was just picking her mind about these. I love talking to her and just picking her mind. She is so wise dude, and she just thinks she thinks bigger, dude. And I just I love picking her mind and I literally told her last night, I was like, dude, I just do not utilize you enough. Me and what I mean by that is I don't pick your mind enough. Like she just she's wise. Yeah. So I can't remember where I was going with that, but the magic of thinking big that's where this idea came and then we can get into some of these areas. Okay. Awesome. This damn mic is sag. It's just sagging on me, bro. Is sag it. Actually said nothing in line. Never mind. Just continue. I was gonna go through Bob Saggot. That has nothing to do with we're talking about let's keep going.

Jackson Campbell: 9:44
Okay. So give us some examples of thinking bigger and where we can apply

Tyler Deveraux: 9:47
em in our life. So mindset's number one. Okay. Obviously literally think bigger, right? Mindset impacts every single aspect of our life on my actually my other Yeti cup, it says mindset is everything. And it's funny, cuz I, I argue with Dallas cuz Dallas says mindset. Isn't everything. It just impacts everything. And I'm always like, bro, that means it's everything. It's everything. Yeah. If it impacts everything, it is

Jackson Campbell: 10:10
everything. It's good. It's a good argument. It's a good argument

Tyler Deveraux: 10:12
to have. But man, literally every experience that we is determined, we it's how we interpret it to be. So good, bad, negative, positive. It's all how we interpret it to be these experiences, these things that we go through. Is it good or is it bad? And I think of the first thing that comes to my mind is the Alchemist, the book, the Alchemist, and he talks about crossing over into African day. One gets all of his money stolen and he says, I can either view myself as a poor victim of a thief or as an, a adventurer looking for his treasure. And the there's only one of those options that is serving. So thinking bigger means to choose the option that is serving towards positivity, growth, success, happiness. He views himself as a adventure looking for his treasure. Last group, we talked about the youth group that we went to putting together tents and how some were complaining. And some were joyful as they were learning. It. It's everything is how we perceive it to be, yeah. And if you think about this, everything that we do in life, everything meaningful for sure that we do in life, we're gonna face negativity. It's. It's everywhere. We know that I, we can't be shocked about that. We can't be surprised about that. It's everywhere. But we can take something positive from any negative. And if we're truly dedicated to doing that, taking a positive from every negative, turning every negative into a positive, I remember Dallas created a symbol like that, but, and I loved it, but turning every negative into a positive, then every experience we have can become useful.

Jackson Campbell: 11:44
I really like how you called it. Oh, you didn't call it. Oh, geez. I just lost what I was gonna say. You didn't call it. Of you called it an experience. What did you call it? You called it an experience or a, it wasn't positive. Negative. You called it something else perspective. No, you called it serving and not serving. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I really liked how you said that. Yeah, because it's even something that's negative. You can turn into something that's serving. Yes. Meaning that it's turning into something positive, right? That's a better

Tyler Deveraux: 12:13
question, right? Yeah. How can I turn this into something as serving? How can I view this think bigger in a way that is serving to the overall

Jackson Campbell: 12:19
goal? Yeah. Yeah. So I thought that was interesting. It's almost like a little mindset shift there in itself. It's like not everything has to be positive and negative. Yeah. If you look at it from a serving, not serving standpoint, you don't even you don't even get into the negativity of anything. You just look at the situation for what it is. Yeah. And make it serve

Tyler Deveraux: 12:37
you. I love that. Yeah. That neutral thinking. I like that. Yeah. Did, I'll give you an example, man. I just no Noel pull hurt. If you're look listening to this. I love she sent me a text no while. Seriously. And if you guys in the network who were listening to this, if you don't know in Noel, you should reach out to her. That's awesome. She just has a great, awesome energy about her dude, but she sends me this text the other day and she's like mad Tyler. I just wanted to let you know. And it's I can just see the preview, and it says, I just wanted to let you know that I submitted my first LOI and I'm like, oh, so wait, I click on it. And then underneath it says, and I totally fell on my face. I totally fell on my face, looked like an idiot or whatever she said. And then she said, but I oddly enough or crazy enough, I used that devastation to want to do better and immediately called three brokers. And now I have a better understanding of, her quote, a better understanding of what the fuck is going on, but that, but here's, what's crazy about that. So think about this. She falls on her face. What do most people do at that moment?

Jackson Campbell: 13:27
Take a break stop. Yep.

Tyler Deveraux: 13:29
Or give up, they go recluse mode. Yeah. They retracted. We've seen that's so crazy to me, man. It's when we hit stumbling block, when we hit struggle. So many people go recluse mode. That's the worst thing in that moment, dude, the best thing is to fricking attack it again, to go after. And that's what she did. And I abso that is a mindset dude that is thinking bigger, that is taking a negative situation and turning it into something positive, something serving. And, but the, one of my favorite parts about that is she then says that, oh, she, I wish I, I should pull dent text, but she said but what's crazy about that is I actually, then I got a counter back from the broker, which made me realize I didn't follow my face as bad as I thought I did. And now I have this good interaction. They actually count. I thought that they wouldn't even counter back on my offer, but they counter back or whatever. Y'all sometimes we're in our own head man. And think about that. Think about if we would've just stayed in your own head and not done anything, but now this momentum that she has, this confidence that she has this, that is a mindset dude. And when we have once again, dude, when we have the right mindset, dude, every we realize that just every failure becomes this learning and failure is a misunderstood step of success. It's not only part of the success process. It is vital to the success process vital. So you have to train yourself to think bigger and view failure is a good thing, but you have to train yourself to think bigger, literally growth mindset,

Jackson Campbell: 14:54
right? Yeah, dude, it's it ties in a lot with what you talked about last week. It's. It's awesome. It's awesome. Noel, thank you for sharing that with Tyler so we could share it here. I hope we hope you're okay with that. I'm sure you are, as it's gonna motivate others to do so as well okay. So mindset. Yeah.

Tyler Deveraux: 15:08
Mindset. Number one, mindset. Think bigger. Literally mindset wise. Number two is real estate wise. I We teach people how to buy apartment building. So think bigger real estate deals think bigger investment deals when people think, and I do this example all the time at my class where we do this case study and it's a smaller case study. And I ask them, I'm like, how many of you? And once we get through it, they, their eyes are open to a lot. And I say, how many of you came in here thinking maybe I'll do a duplex, a five unit, a 10 unit, and then grow from there. And dude, a lot of people raise their hands. Think about this, their tagline thinking bigger multi-family mindset. I'm talking all day about, and in all my, ad campaigns and everything, all, everything about doing big apartment deals, but their mindset goes towards smaller. Why do you think

Jackson Campbell: 15:55
scarcity? Yeah. Scarcity. Yeah.

Tyler Deveraux: 15:58
Yeah. What do you mean by that though?

Jackson Campbell: 16:01
Easier.

Tyler Deveraux: 16:03
Okay. I think that might be the thought. Definitely. Definitely. Definitely. Yeah.

Jackson Campbell: 16:06
It's what they've been told.

Tyler Deveraux: 16:06
I like being on this side of the coin, dude, I'm gonna start firing

Jackson Campbell: 16:09
questions of you rolling at dude. I would say probably cuz that's what they've been told. That's the perception of it. They don't know any

Tyler Deveraux: 16:14
better. Yes. It's all of those things, dude. It's the easier. Why? Because they know people that own smaller buildings, maybe they don't know anybody that owns an apartment. Yeah. I also believe that we've been told our whole lives. The smaller is safer. Smaller is safer. Bigger is riskier. Dude. Smaller is literally riskier. It's the opposite of what we're trained to think. And that's when man, when I really started being trained about that and learned about that, it was like, it's crazy to me, dude. The it literally. So any investment is a risk dude. So the better that we can manage that risk, the safer that investment becomes and the higher your returns will end up being right. But if we want to increase our chance of winning, this is what's crazy to me too. Listen to this. This is imperative. If we want to if we want to increase our chances of. because people think high risk, high returns. That's why they think I know apartments have bigger returns, but it must be higher risk because they're higher returns. No, dude, if we want to increase our chance of winning, we do not have to increase our chance of losing dude. It's like we go out there and play a basketball game. I'm gonna focus on increasing my chances of winning. If we need to focus on literally that increasing our chances of winning. It just seems so simple to me and apartments giver bigger properties, apartments. Give us a bigger chance of winning. That doesn't mean bigger risk is literally the opposite. Like the more units we have, we literally increase our chances to win. If I have a single family property and a tenant moves out I'm paying that

Jackson Campbell: 17:44
mortgage. Yeah. Someone's gotta be, someone's gotta pay that mortgage that month. Totally. I have

Tyler Deveraux: 17:48
five unit building and two people move out. Now I'm probably pitching it to help pay that mortgage. Yeah. But I have a hundred unit building. and bro, I have a hundred unit building and I have a mass Exodus of 20 people all at once. Bro. We're still profitable on that deal. Let alone pay the debts over the mortgage. We're still profitable. So we need to increase our chances of winning. And we do that by doing bigger apartment deals that are literally safer and give you opportunity for more upside returns,

Jackson Campbell: 18:15
man. It's so powerful. Really? Just by the power of thinking bigger, you increase your chances at winning that's what you just told me. That's what I just got out. That's one of the things that I just got outta that love that your ability to think bigger is increasing your chance to win. Yeah.

Tyler Deveraux: 18:30
Okay, dude, what else? We'll take that one more. Yeah, go ahead. More level. Absolutely. Single family property, five unit properties, these smaller properties. There's not enough profit to justify multiple partners on a big apartment deal. There is so think about this. How much time and effort dedication do we put in at M F C P multifamily, MF capital partners, multi our investment company. how many days a week do we work on that business? Seven every day. Yeah. Every day. We're thinking about it. Somebody who owns a single family property, a duplex Tenex. They're not thinking about it every day. We don't know why. Cause that's not, it's not their sole source of income. They're working on the jobs dude. And this is a supplemental thing. You will not be able to compete, dude. You're one. And once again, your risk is higher simp because your attention is less invest. These passive investors who come in, it's literally, we EV all day, every day, we have a whole team teams of people overseeing your investment all the time, every day, thinking through that all dude, that's powerful. That's why like when people invest passively, it's I invest passively by the way in. I invest in every deal we do, but I also invest passively in other people's deals. You wanna know why cuz they can now think about those kind of things. They. Can think about it. This is another way of thinking bigger. I'll get down to it. Probably I'll talk about abundance, but I remember when I first started, I started to invest in other people's deals, cuz I would, cash out some single families. I start investing other people's deals and I gained so many great relationships, learn so much. My money's being more. And I remember when I would go to raise money, I would talk to other operators and these other operators would be like, no I only invest in my own deals. That's it. I only invest in my own deals. And I remember thinking if we're being honest actually doing, I thought sometimes I'm like, why am I dumb to invest in other people's deals? I literally thought yeah, it is a good. And I was like, no dude, I'm learning so much. This is going on. This is going on. And guess where those people are now that owns the ones that only invest in their own deals. That's not an abundance that's scarcity. And guess where those people are, nowhere close to where we're at, dude. It's why. scarce. They don't think bigger, dude.

Jackson Campbell: 20:35
That's why. Awesome man. So power, like so powerful, especially I love that synopsis of single family versus multi-family and how thinking bigger is safer, man. It's increases your chance of winning. It's awesome. Okay. What else? What else you said you've got six of 'em. So we've covered two mindset real

Tyler Deveraux: 20:52
estate. So number three is thinking bigger by enhancing your belief. It's one of the most important aspects of anything that we do is our personal belief. Like man, when I go really, when I go interact with anybody, I literally not anybody I'm dead serious. One of my, I have this thing and this is a takeaway. Okay. So any of you who are dude, anything that you do, man, this is my advice to you. Before you go into that situation, really identify who you need to be like literally, who like for example, we did a family meeting the other day. And it's start of the new school year. I'm drilling into my kids who we are, the Devoes who, what does that mean? What are our core values as a family? And and I, and there are confidence and all this kind of stuff. And I literally spent good chunk of time before I went home, walking through like those meeting, that meeting outline I've showed to you love the whole meeting outline. Okay. Yeah. Slides and everything. I love it, dude. And but then like before I went in to do this meeting, it's a serious thing for me. I'm like, okay, I've been in business mode. And I do this every time before I go home, though. I literally will. I never take the fast away home. I always go down key hay road because that whole time it's okay, it's dad mode. I don't wanna walk in that door until I'm dad mode. So I take the long way so that I can decompress dad mode. So why do I do that? Because. It's important that you understand who you are and remember who you are in any given situation and who those people around you need to be. But one of the most important aspects of that is your personal belief. Dude. My personal belief is I'm a fantastic dad and I'm a fantastic dad because I'm dedicated to being a fantastic dad. That's why it's not any unique skill that I have. It is. I'm dedicated. I want to be a great dad and I'm not always a great dad. Nobody is always anything, but I wanna be. So my personal belief and my ability to be a dad is very high. Why? Because I try so personal belief is huge. And I'm gonna tell you any of you out there. Listen to me, when I say this, any negative thought that you have about yourself, challenge, any negative thought that you have about yourself. I promise you, trust me. You are AB you absolutely have what it takes. Your actions are gonna match your belief and your belief. Needs to be high in your personal ability. I promise you, you have what it takes. These people that you see out there that you look up to that you wanna be like that you think they are just like you dude, they enhance your personal belief. Just you have what it takes. Promise you,

Jackson Campbell: 23:23
man. So powerful. So powerful. The one actionable that I wanna pull out here was your example of how you take the long way home to really get in that mode and set your intentions. Yep. Actionable for everybody out there. Whether you, if you work a full time job, I highly suggest taking that time, set your intentions to be the father, mother, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, whatever it is that next situation you're going into, chances are you need to be somebody different than you were when you were at work. Totally dive. Definitely challenge everybody. I've put that into place and it's helped me a ton. That's awesome, man. Okay, dude. So question for you. How do you enhance your personal belief? I know you just went over it, right? Question. I know you of just went over one way that you do that. Yeah. But let's dive in a little bit more.

Tyler Deveraux: 24:03
Number one, dude, enhance your belief in others. I just, man, I believe that. And I got this from ed my lead and I'm pretty sure it's a quote in his book and I said it a couple times, but he says, what surrounds you is within you? And I believe that in fact, I just had a conversation today. Actually I told you about this conversation. Oh yeah. The one this morning. Yep. This struggle. And that was my advice to him, man is believe in other people, dude, believe in other people, like we believe, in fact, one of our core values, dude, our core, one of our core values is belief. And I will quote you one of the things from our core value. It is we believe in others because we believe in ourselves and others will believe in us because we believe in them. So we believe in others because we believe in ourselves and others will believe in us because we believe in them due. it is a, it's a circle. It's like when you see the best in others will see the best in you. But when you don't see the best in others, you are thinking subconsciously whatever the others are not seeing the best in you. Man, if you just force yourself to see the good in others, I promise you that your personal belief will be enhanced. It will. So that's number one do believe in others. I believe in people, man. I just do. I don't care what anybody else says about people out there. No, I believe that the majority of people are good fricking people. I just

Jackson Campbell: 25:22
do you, if you listen to any high level individual, they talk like Tyler is talking right now about other individuals, about other people. Yeah. About people that come on, that they, that, that work with them. Team members, whatever it may be. They're always speaking about others the way Tyler is, and that's an actionable in itself. And something that should be noted should always be talking positive about the people around you. Yeah. Should always have that belief in them. As Tyler is going over, you enhance your belief by believing in. I can't attest to that more. And like I've watched Tyler do those things, which is incredible. And those are things that tho like these little things, right? You talk about little things being changed that can make huge impacts. This is one of them. Yeah. By far it's one of them. I agree. So I

Tyler Deveraux: 26:04
just wanted to put that out. Can I take that one step deeper? Thank you. By the way. And I'll take it even one step deeper. I'm not gonna talk about who I was talking to. That doesn't matter. Yeah. But I was talking to somebody who would literally do their hurt. Like their heart was hurt, and they're like, man, I posted about this deal that I just closed. And I'm so excited about. And any of you who have been down this journey of close the deals, dude, it's a journey, man. There are struggles, man. There is challenges. And that is, we talked about that. A number of drifts. Yeah. It. so it makes it so rewarding. And so post about this deal. And somebody was like, man, yeah. I should have been part of that deal and something, whatever. And he's I'm literally like my feelings are hurt. I care about that person. And it's we don't need to get into details, but I was like, man, that is, and I obviously help them understand I built them back out, but I want to talk about the other person that sent that you don't understand that fucks you over more than anybody. And I use that F word and I get my mouth very close to the mic and say, as abruptly as I can. Cause I don't know, wake you up, dude. That hurts you more than anybody. You wanna know why? Because what do you're associating somebody else's success with pain for you now let me just help you think bigger. Okay. You switched that and you celebrate that per that person's. Guess how you feel successful. Do you wanna know why I wanna go surround myself with other people who are more successful? Because I it's not my success, but I feel that success and the best way to be successful is to start feeling successful. And the more that you can celebrate other people's success, you taste that success, dude, believe in people celebrate other people's success. Do not discredit, do not make help. Have you make that or have that make you sad? Gosh, damn man, celebrate that. And you will be successful. It's freaking inevitable, man.

Jackson Campbell: 27:48
Anyway, so true. And I've seen that a number of times where it could go both ways, people that celebrate others and people that maybe don't and maybe are a little bit bitter or whatever, may, whatever that situation may be, whatever. And those two people. the their paths are completely different. The way that they progress is completely different and one progresses way quicker than the other. Yeah. And you can figure out which one that is. It's definitely the person that's gonna have a positive mindset and thinks bigger. Yeah. And celebrates others. Absolutely. So how do

Tyler Deveraux: 28:17
you enhance your personal belief, dude? It's so believing in others. Number two is providing value. We talked about this today, too. It's crazy. But we did. We talked, provide here. I pre providing value all the time. Value creation leads to wealth creation will value creation will also inevitably lead to enhanced confidence. Why? Because you're providing value to other people you're providing value to other people. Some people won't recognize it. That's a fact, but some will, and those people will let you know. And when those people let you know, your belief will be enhanced. You need to provide value with no expectations that anybody's gonna say anything, but understand that eventually they will, dude. And this is why Jackson and I were talking about it this morning, which is interesting that we go down this route and you ask that question, dude. But we were talking about it and I was communicating with a student of ours and I wanted to provide value, dude. I wanted to like, and I on, but I was like, man, I don't know if they're gonna see this as valuable or not, but that you can't control that you can't control if somebody sees the value or not. You can't, you don't know what's gonna resonate with somebody or not. That's you can't control that. Yeah. What you can control is putting yourself in a position to speak truth, dude, and I spoke truth. And then I get this video back that just lit me up, dude. It lit me up because they saw it and they were grateful for it. And you know what, dude, it lit me up, man. It lit me up did, and my confidence was enhanced of man, I need to never doubt to share something. Share dude share. So dude provide value, pour into other people. And I promise you, your belief will be enhanced because other people will see it. And then it's inevitable that you see it in yourself, dude. Anyway,

Jackson Campbell: 29:57
dude. That's awesome. Can I add something here? Yes. To providing value. I don't know how I wanna say this, but it's a thought that I've had for a long time value cannot be related, cannot be correlated with money. Okay. It shouldn't be, yeah. Money will come as a byproduct of value. Yeah. But the initial action of taking, or like the initial action of creating value, shouldn't like you should not ever put a price tag on what that may look like. How much should I be getting paid for this value that I'm providing you ha like those things have to, they have. They can't correlate any longer. Yeah. If you want to have this mindset is what I'm saying. Yeah. You can't correlate money with value. You just can't. Yep. You can't. Will it bring you money down the road? It may.

Tyler Deveraux: 30:43
It may. It will. No, it will. It's a fact, bro. It, if you have this mindset you're talking about it's a fact. Yes. Only if you're thinking bigger, long term and understand that we'll actually talk about this. Yes, dude. I love that fact.

Jackson Campbell: 30:57
It's like you can't put money with value, those things can't

Tyler Deveraux: 31:00
but kids, can I ask a question? Yeah. What if you're constantly providing value to others and they don't see your value?

Jackson Campbell: 31:08
That's a good question. That's a good, I want you to answer. I don't know. I don't know what I don't know. And that situation, I would continue to provide value, dude, if it's me. Oh wow. I would continue to provide value in a different way. I would make sure that it's seen. Yeah. I would make sure that it's seen, but even if it's seen.

Tyler Deveraux: 31:24
You can't control that. I can't control what

Jackson Campbell: 31:27
they believe is

Tyler Deveraux: 31:27
valuable. Yeah, sure. So here's the thing, it's all perspective. Yeah. It's all mindset. So this is your ability. This is unique thing. This is where this life is crazy. That's your opportunity to sit back and be like, ask a better question. Is this really valuable? Or do I just think it's valuable? Yeah, that's good. There you go. And am I providing value because it's, what's valuable to me or am I really flipping the script and seeing what's valuable to them? Yep. That's a better question first off. Sure. But then if you do that and you think through those, and then this is just this person that just never sees your value. then dude go pro don't stop providing value. Just go provide value to other people who see your value because not everyone's gonna see your value, dude. It's just not. Yeah. I It would be awesome if it is, but man know that you are absolutely valuable. That's not even a question right now. It's just, you need to get that in front of people who actually see it. Yeah. Yeah.

Jackson Campbell: 32:18
So valuable. Yeah. Then I got one

Tyler Deveraux: 32:19
more though. How do you enhance your personal belief? Once again is the question and number three is dude, you believe in a higher power and I love ed my let's book, the power of one more. If you haven't read that you should. And it's a great book. And one of my favorite chapters in there was he talked about his faith, his belief in a higher power. And I love it. I'm very very spiritual. I absolutely believe in a higher power and I've learned so much from even that chapter. And, but I put a quote in here from the book. I literally just copy and pasted it. He said the stronger your faith is in whatever you believe. The deeper, your commitment to your resulting cause will be you. So the stronger your faith is in whatever you believe, the deeper, your commitment to your resulting cause will be. So think about this. If you have faith, if you truly have faith and you pray for help, you're gonna have the confidence to work harder, to try more, to do bigger things, because you believe that there's help there. Faith is huge, man, a belief in a higher power that somebody's there. Something, whether that is energy, whether that is God, I believe in God. Whatever you believe in energy, God universe, whatever it may be, you believe in a higher power and you pray and you have faith, dude. It'll absolutely enhance your belief in yourself, period.

Jackson Campbell: 33:32
Absolutely. A hundred percent agree. Just to take just another spin on that as you're praying, and as you're doing these things, I believe that's a form of meditation. It is, so it's if you're not religious, if you're, if you're not really into the. The God and having that higher power and you believe in a different sort of things, there's definitely ways and other ways to go about yep. Having those things, saying a prayer, manifesting, whatever it may be. Totally. Those things have to be put in place and their they're Cru they're necessities of life, I believe. Yep. Taking care of your spiritual self. Totally bro. And that's what that, and that's what I believe. If you're taking care of yourself spiritually, it's gonna enhance your belief a hundred

Tyler Deveraux: 34:10
percent. Yeah. I loved how I talked about it in his book though. Go read it. Like how we tied it in is awesome science and faith. And it was awesome. That's awesome. That thought. Okay. Number four, his bigger goals, man. Think bigger by understanding and setting bigger goals. And all I'll say with this, is this more than what you think is possible as possible, more than what you think is possible as possible? Never in the beginning. Did I envision anywhere close to where I'm at right now? E Elon Musk never envisioned in the beginning where he is at now. Zuckerberg never, envisioned where he is at now. Thinking bigger means setting bigger goals, like more than what you think is possible. So when you're setting these goals, you're like, man, is it possible? AB absolutely. It's possible. Not only that more than that is possible, literally more than that is possible. So think bigger man. Think bigger. You're gonna take small actions and understand that it's not all just gonna, this is actually the next one that we'll talk about, but it's not all just gonna happen overnight, but you take small actions, but you think bigger dude, more than what you think is possible as possible. Absolutely.

Jackson Campbell: 35:08
I couldn't agree. More Dallas talks about that all the time. You talk about that all the time. And you, could you, do you mind talking about the experience you had with Andy about setting bigger goals or I don't know if it was necessarily about setting bigger goals, but it was when you talked about yeah. This with him. Do you mind sharing that?

Tyler Deveraux: 35:27
I went into his, I went there for a mastermind to Andy's house and his house is beautiful home and. But then we go into his garage and it's not a normal garage dude. No, it is crazy garage with, I can't even, I can't remember now how many cars? 30 something. Not regular cars. We're crazy high end super cars. And I asked him, I was like, man, gosh, now I can't remember the number though. I

Jackson Campbell: 35:53
think I do. What's the, I think you told 30 million.

Tyler Deveraux: 35:55
I think it was bigger than that billion. I thought, what was it? 40 billion. 40 billion worth of cars. Not bill. Oh, 40 million mil. That was 40. I thought it was 40,

Jackson Campbell: 36:04
40 million. So I asked, shout out Nico. Thank you so much from the other Nico to the

Tyler Deveraux: 36:07
other room, dude. I love it. Freaking high five through left, but I was like, man, help me, like how much cars in here and 40 million in cars, 40 million just in cars. Okay. So most people would look at that and think this is actually, we'll talk about this too. But most people would look at that and think that is a. but here's what he said next. This is why it's so important to surround yourself with people who just think bigger, dude, that's way bigger thinking than I do it is way bigger. And he said, I was like, man, that's crazy. He's yeah. But lemme tell you something. The inspiration that I've had from being in this garage, surrounded by those things has resulted in way more than 40 million in revenue. Way more because it has energy to it. Like it there's a bigger per there's energy to it. So for me, it's all about, this is like this garage. He's like I envisioned and visualized this garage for years before it actually came before it really happened. So now being in this garage and overlooking all this and being surrounded by that energy has helped me create more way more than any of that cost, which just helps me understand. Thinking bigger. All right. Yeah. And I was like, man, that inspired me. Like the biggest takeaway that I got from that event was think bigger, dude, literally think bigger, think bigger.

Jackson Campbell: 37:21
Oh man. So powerful and such an actionable to takeaway there too, is like when you accomplish a goal or whatever it is that you do use the accomplishment of that goal. Yeah. To motivate you to the next thing. Yeah. And share it. Can I tell you

Tyler Deveraux: 37:35
thing with that? Yeah. Yeah. It was the first time that he had ever had a group like that in his garage first time. Wow. I'm so grateful. Literally dude, so grateful that he would open that garage up for us because he has no idea nor will he ever know the inspiration. I'm not even a car guy. It's not even about that. The inspiration that I received from that I'm very grateful. Some people will look at that as this, flex or bragging or prideful. No, dude that is serving. To those people who see the value, boom, tie it back in. Oh, no truth though. See that value dude, because I'm telling you, man, I walked away from that and I was like, I was literally grateful. So grateful dude that he would open up his home like that for the, for us to see it and inspire me to do

Jackson Campbell: 38:24
more. know? No, dude, I wanna hammer down on that really quick. A lot of times I think a lot of people who don't come from a lot of wealth who don't come from a lot of money, whatever that situation may look like, look at people who have $40 million worth of cars as a flex or as something that's not necessary. But listen to how Tyler's speaking right now. Listen to the motivation and the inspiration that he's received from that. And then to loop it back into something that we talked about earlier, is it serving or is it not serving? Yeah. Yeah. How your thought about somebody else having 40 million worth of cars, your reaction to that, hearing that. is that a negative react? Is that feeling a negative feeling or a positive feeling? Yeah. You get to decide that though, which is the biggest thing right now. Great. Tie-in you get to decide is somebody having $40 million worth of card? Is that affect me at all? No. Yeah. Negatively, no negatively. That doesn't affect me at all. His pie is not my pie. He can eat his pie. Yeah. It doesn't take away from my

Tyler Deveraux: 39:21
pie. Yeah. It shows you that there's a lot of fucking pie

Jackson Campbell: 39:23
out there. Exactly. Exactly. So I just wanted to point that out and drill that in. If for whatever reason that may make you feel weird that Andy has $40 million worth of cars and that's maybe that's self-serving for him. It doesn't have to do with you. Yeah. Think bigger. Think bigger. Think of just changed the way that you think about that. Totally. Yeah.

Tyler Deveraux: 39:39
Great tie in, dude. Okay. Number five is see like long term, like literally think bigger by seeing the bigger picture thinking in the long term, like literally seeing the bigger picture. Way too often, we make these short term short sided decisions, dude, that is, I'll give you an example of this. One of our Sarah is amazing partner of ours on the apartment

Jackson Campbell: 40:05
side. Amazing. She's great. Shout out Sarah Sullivan. Amazing. Sugo capital. Fantastic. She's

Tyler Deveraux: 40:10
awesome. But you know why we ended up partnering so much with Sarah because Sarah was partnering with other people, but they were not. They weren't they didn't see the value. They did see the value, but they here's the thing. They did see the value, but do you know what they wanted? They thought small. They did not think long term. They thought only in this short term and they wanted a bigger piece of pie in the short term, in the short term, a bigger piece of pie, which ultimately lost them. Somebody that could provide massive value to give you a bigger pie. We didn't think like that. We literally were like, man, you're super valuable, man. We'll like, we'll treat like an equal. And that is why Sarah decided to partner with us as much as she has. And she's extremely valuable, man. But help you understand. And I know, you know this. Yeah. That's impacted our portfolio at 10.

Jackson Campbell: 41:03
Oh man. It, since she's come on. Yeah. Near nearly close to double to know done. I don't know exactly what it is, but

Tyler Deveraux: 41:10
it's a law. Do you know who else it's impacted her? Yeah. She no longer works at her job. She no longer does those things. Like she works in this full time. Guess how else? That I, that impacts me too Uhhuh. She's a student in our class back row with her husband Theo. Like seeing that transition, I promise you impacts me at a way deeper level than any small term monetary number ever would, but what's crazy is my big. Monetary it's bigger. My monetary number is bigger now because of that. Yeah. Think bigger. Lisa and Greg are the same thing. I freaking love and appreciate Lisa and Greg so much. Ma'am so much. And when we do deals with them, which we've done a whole bunch of deals with them and the same thing, dude, our portfolio wouldn't be where it's at without them. And why did we partner with them? We'll do cuz they provided massive value and we didn't try to undercut their value. We didn't try to go in there and negotiate bigger slice of the pie. And could we have done those things? I, who knows, dude, I don't care if I could ever should ever. I know this, I know that we went in with a long term perspective of, we saw their value dude. And we went in with this long term perspective and I love them, man. I'm grateful for them. Other people, they had bad partnerships in the past that had done the same things that we just talked about with Sarah. So when I see that happening in our network, I just wanna take those people and be like BR you're not seeing the bigger picture. You're not thinking bigger think long term people will have this. They make permanent decisions based on a temporary setback. Like literally I see people that will want to quit because of a bad experience that they have the opposite of Noel that we just talked about. Like they have the same situation as Noem. They wanna quit because it's, they can't do it. And it's get on the phone with them. And it's just literally what are you talking about? Yeah. And then they come full circle, but here's the thing. And I that's my job as a coach, as a mentor, as this education business is to help people think bigger. But what I'm telling 'em is you've got to sit back and see it from a different perspective that's serving. And the more that we can do that as people, the more that we will grow, dude, like. One of my favorite things to do is to surf. I love it. Yeah. Not people hear that. And it's funny cause I'll go to these events and people will think I'm a great surfer. No, I just like to surf I'm learning to be a better surfer. Yeah. I'm just learning it, but I love it dude. And I don't necessarily love it because I'm great. I love it because of the challenge. And I love it because getting outta nature and I like, but you know what? First off I was nervous to surf because I had heard that servers can be protective of their, waves and they don't like, outsiders coming in. And that was the opposite of what I felt when I went out there. People they were teaching you and helping you. Yeah. Yeah. But guess what? Opposite. There has been times when I will go surf and there is that one person who's just an ass. Yeah. Dude. And just, it's like what the, how can you be out here surfing and be that angry they're out there. And even one time I had an experience, dude. I don't need to go in the details, but I literally got my truck. I'm like, fuck, dude. I'm that is ridiculous, man. I don't I'm I don't even, I don't even wanna go back out there cause does this guy come out all the time? I don't even know if I wanna go back out there. How can you imagine how one of my favorite things that I enjoy doing? One, one, something that brings massive joy into my life. I almost didn't do because of one, one experience, one bad interaction, get the hell outta here. Do we go into a situation? And this is a relationship based business. We talk about this all the time and we go in and we don't mesh with this one person who cares. You're gonna mesh with some people you're not gonna mesh with some people. So do think bigger. Literally thinking in the long term, can I mention one more thing? Absolutely. Is forecasting out, like literally forecasting out in your life, forecasting out on these properties that we're doing. Like we just exited 99.6 million of real estate made phenomenal returns. But how do, how did we do that? We did that by thinking bigger, we got started when other people were nervous meaning we bought those properties already. We weren't not when we were starting, but we bought those properties when other people were nervous. We thought bigger looked at the whole scheme of things. And then also we were, we exited because we also forecasted, we looked at what was coming down the pipeline and realized this was an awesome opportunity for us to maximize returns. And you can relate it to the exact market we're in right now. I'm not. Do I believe that we're in a recession? Yes. Do I believe that a recession. House correction, house housing correction. No, I'm not saying that the house that the housing market won't correct. What I'm saying is that I think in the long term, and I see the long term picture and I'm in it for the long term. And so I believe in our ability to weather, any sort of a correction, cause we're in it for the long term dude, not this short term situation, I ain't in it. Get rich quick. It's get wealthy, massively wealthy over the long run, right? Yeah.

Jackson Campbell: 45:56
No, these are huge, actionable here. For our newer students, for our newer students in the mentorship or for any really student or any really anybody that's expanding and growing and starting a company, we have these people coming on, we're teaching, 'em how to start their own multi-family investment firm or company, we're teaching them. This did the actionable that I wanna pull out of this is when you're thinking about building that. Make sure. To think. Think bigger. Yeah. Think about these people like Sarah, like the parishes don't skimp to pay those people up front. Don't like, I'll be very blunt about what Tyler was talking about right here. They were not being taken care of where they were previously. They were not. We provided that for them, that multifamily capital partners so that they could come over to us. And like you said, have that full focus where it needs to be to benefit both parties, such an actionable that I just wanted to point out there is don't skimp on those things. Get people that are dedicated that want to be there and then pay

Tyler Deveraux: 46:51
them what they're worth. Totally. And investors. I look at it from a passive investor side, such a good point. So many passive investors or the potential passive investors are like you know what? I'm just gonna go buy a single family property or whatever. I I could either invest passively here or buy a single family property. Do think bigger man. Think bigger, like literally. Put your money to work in an avenue that you, that has nothing to do with you think that's gonna be a better return on time or investment. It's about you feel like you wanna be able to control it. And do I want you to do your due diligence so that you know who you're investing with and what you're investing in, and yes, that's being a good steward of your money, but also do think bigger and understand that when you can truly put your money to work in an area where with experts, P people that are like, that's what they dedicate their lives to your chances of winning increase. It's a fact. Yeah. Yeah, man.

Jackson Campbell: 47:40
That's awesome. So true. Okay. Talked about long term, seeing the picture long term. Okay. What was number? That was number five. So number six, as we wrap up here

Tyler Deveraux: 47:48
is abundance. Think bigger, meaning abundance. And I relate this with direct versus indirect forces and I can't, I don't know if I've talked about this on podcasts or not, but I literally believe that indirect forces can be way more powerful. Way more powerful at compounding success than direct forces, like D direct things that directly for forces that directly impact success. Shit's too easy, dude. That's never the separator. It's never the separator. Like I'll give you an example of this in indirect abundance, indirect forces, okay. Pouring value into people that cannot directly impact your success, but I will promise you that it will indirectly pouring value into other people will indirectly impact your success. Why? Because those people will be grateful. And when they're, so think about it indirect force, they'll be grateful when they're grateful, you realize that you had value to provide. When you realize you have value to provide your confidence increases. When your confidence increases, you take bigger actions. When you take bigger actions, you do bigger things, you accomplish bigger goals and your life changes do. That's an indirect force that caused that right? We were talking about, I can't remember what we were talking about up above when I said, and it made me think about it, but, or earlier is what I mean by that. I can't remember what we were just talking about where I was like, that's an indirect force for it. I can't remember. Do you remember was it, were we talking about Sarah maybe, but that is an indirect force maybe. That actually was almost a direct force, but I can't remember. It doesn't matter, but there's tons of things. Like we, you come to our events and you'll see things at our event. People will walk into our events and they'll, they're like, oh man, just, and I remember when we first started to set up for these events and I was like, no, I want two screens. I want pipe and drape. I want, nice manual. I want this, I want, and I banners. I want. It's is that really necessary? Yeah, dude, that's an indirect force. It's an indirect force because when people come in, they feel good. When I'm there, I'm proud of what we have. And dude, there is no way that I can go teach and inspire and help and engage if I don't, if I'm not proud of what we have, why do we spend so much time building content, working through curriculum? Cuz dude, yes, that will directly impact our students. But that doesn't necessarily direct. It does because if it directly impacts our students, it does that. I That's the whole purpose of the company, but I'll tell you a deeper level of that is dude makes me proud of what we have. It makes me proud. It makes me confident. Flying first class. I fly first class. Every single time. It's not cheap from now. No, listen, one day, maybe one day, maybe I get to a point where I can fly private one day. It's gonna happen. It will. But why do I do that? Why would it that even matter? I'm gonna tell you right now. that when I fly for an indirect thing. Okay I'll tell you what it directly impacts. It directly impacts my health, my sleep, my productivity, and work. And what are those things? Indirectly impact everything. Dude, when I land from a long flight, I'm more re more renewed to be a dad. When I land home, when I land after a long flight to go do an event I'm more energized and renewed to go beat that business person, doing that event, teaching inspiring, helping right a maid at the house. How does the maid indirectly impact in indirectly impact will do? It allows me to focus my energy and Bri focus our energy on the areas where we wanna focus on energy, which is our kids and each other. And that, yeah, it's like it's utilizing things that we have. People will think about accumulation of money. I want to utilize my money as a tool. Money is only a tool if we use it, but those are indirect forces. That's an abundant site. So we think bigger by having an abundant mindset. That makes sense. Totally. That

Jackson Campbell: 51:30
totally makes sense. I wanna just, I want to hammer down on the indirect forces and how you can provide how you can be abundant there. I think a lot of times people like just simply by your energy and your mindset and your perspective on things and your language that you use, those are also indirect forces. Yeah. How you communicate with others. Yep. Making sure you're saying please. And thank you always those little things. We talk about little things, make big differences, those indirect forces that you can have in very simple conversation, whatever it may be opening the door for somebody it's gonna provide value. Yeah. And it's an abundant mindset, right? You, a lot of times I think people think, oh, I don't want to come off too nice because then I want, don't want to get walked over, but that's one of those, that's one of those abundant mentalities that you need to have is niceness is kindness of. What I mean is doing those things. If that makes sense. Yeah, because that value that comes with those things is massive.

Tyler Deveraux: 52:31
Let me dude, massive. I ju you don't know this, you don't even know this, but I just had a conversation yesterday with multiple people about a person that is somebody in the space and long story short as this they're like, Hey, what's your approach gonna be? I'm like kindness, dude. Kindness. You wanna know why? Cuz kindness is confidence. Confidence is kindness is confidence. If I go in there fricking ripping that person tore. that is any meanness. Any meanness is something that is it's lack of confidence. It's insecurity. It's insecurity. That's what I was looking for a hundred percent it's insecurity. I could talk about this.

Jackson Campbell: 53:07
I could talk about

Tyler Deveraux: 53:08
this for days. Yeah. Kindness is confidence, dude. Yeah. Like the most confident people, the most successful people, go watch, 'em go watch how they interact with people. Go watch how they treat people. They don't need to be the fricking, they don't need to act like they're the, this top person that dude, they know that they're that person. And they don't need anybody else validation from anybody else. They know they're that person cuz their belief is enhanced. They know that's who they are and they treat people. They're that person that's confidence, dude. And that's abundant. That's abundance. Yeah. That, no,

Jackson Campbell: 53:36
you're no, you're not better than anybody. Yeah. All right. That's one of those things that, that comes with that too. I just think bigger, dude, man, think bigger. I love it. Ty. We covered six amazing principles. Yeah. Don't even know how long we've been going. I don't know to be a long, it's gotta be a long one, but it's been amazing. We covered mindset thinking bigger in your mindset. Mindset impacts everything. It really does real estate doing apartment deals rather than doing single family and just thinking bigger and the bigger that you think there, the more that it will enhance your belief and enhancing to your chance of winning. Exactly. We talked about thinking bigger and enhancing your belief. We talked about a couple really strategic things that you can do there. Enhancing your belief in others. Yeah. Believe in others is gonna enhance your belief in yourself. Love that. That's an note

Tyler Deveraux: 54:16
you took on there, dude. Yeah. Provide

Jackson Campbell: 54:17
value. Yep. Provide value is another one that can enhance your belief in yourself and believing in a higher power. Loved that one. Very good reminder. Fourth thing we talked about is bigger goals, really setting those goals that you don't think you can even attain right now, but set those and shoot for those. And you will be able to attain those. If you think bigger fifth thing we talked about is seeing the big picture, right? Looking at everything from the big picture, forecasting forward not skimping and being short up front because you're worried or have a scarcity mindset about finances or whatever it may be. It's really taking those big leaps forward upfront. And then the last sixth thing we talk about was abundance. So many powerful things in this episode, Ty. Thank you. You're welcome. Talk about, do to wrap up and summarize abundance direct versus indirect forces. Think about it. It's so important. Those little changes can have a massive impact. As we wrap up today, Hawaiian value give us a Hawaiian value is wrap up.

Tyler Deveraux: 55:09
So the one that I used today was Nana eek, kumu, Nona eek, COO Nona, Nana eek, kumu. I probably said that perfectly. No. It's like exactly how you said that. I don't know, but not a means to look, observe or pay attention to K kumu is the teacher beginning the source, the origin. Okay. So listen, when we look to the source we looked to God, God is the source and God is in the details of our lives dude. And when we looked at the source, we gain clarity, we gain confidence and we gain the ability to think bigger. It's all Nana E K kumu, man. Nailed it.

Jackson Campbell: 55:50
Woo

Tyler Deveraux: 55:52
love. Hey y'all thank you so much. Hopefully, man, you've gained some value here and you understand that thinking bigger is a way of life. It's literally a way of life and I'll remind you how we started this and where this all came about and where this. The magic of thinking bigger, dude, you don't have to be super this standout person to do outstanding things, but you do need to think in a way that is bigger to do outstanding things. And if you think in that way and you force, it's a challenge, dude, you challenge yourself to think in that way you will cultivate massive success in your life. So yeah. Turn

Jackson Campbell: 56:28
the positives into, or turn the negatives into positives. Yeah, what's serving you. What's not serving you, Tyler. Thank you so much, man. So such powerful.

Tyler Deveraux: 56:34
Thank you man. Love y'all have a great weekend and live always with Aloha... peace.