Naomi is joined on the iCandy Duo Podcast by Liam and Matt – two dads who met when they joined a bereaved fathers football team. After forming a friendship, not only built upon their shared experiences but also their lighthearted approach to life, the pair set up the Dad Still Standing Podcast – a podcast about baby loss by two fathers. Naomi caught up with Liam and Matt to find out about their mission to support as many dads and their families as possible.