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Cultural Curriculum Chat with Jebeh Edmunds
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Cultural Curriculum Chat with Jebeh Edmunds
S2 Episode #6 To Be Free: Understanding and Eliminating Racism Book Review
On today's episode I will discuss this great professional development book titled, To Be Free: Understanding and Eliminating Racism by by Marlene Wisuri and Thomas Peacock
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Hello, everyone. My name is Jebeh Edmunds and welcome to my podcast, the cultural curriculum chat. I'm an educator, CEO of my own cultural consulting business. And my passion is to provide multicultural educational resources for individuals like yourselves in this space that we are in right now and forever. So today we're going to focus on a really great read, called to be free understanding any eliminating racism by Thomas peacock and Marlene Waziri. The reason why I picked this book is a really great guy to help you on your journey of multicultural understanding, and talking about the social construct of race and the systems that are in place. And it's not just a black and white issue, it's a multifaceted issue that needs to be addressed. And what I love about this book is The chapters are very, very well written, they are very straight to the point. It talks about, you know, we are all related and who we are finding our own identity of each other as a people and as an individual. Racism throughout history. There is no group in here that has been left out, it's talked about a lot of unconscious and unintentional racism biases. It is Minnesota focused, because the Science Museum of Minnesota did a wonderful exhibit on race several years ago. But it talks about the history and the social constructs. A lot of us in this space right now that are not in the marginalized group, come and ask me all the time, Jeb, where do I get started? I don't even know where to begin. I'm overwhelmed. I'm not sure of my place and being an ally. How can I make those authentic connections with people that don't look like me? And I really do recommend books like this. It does answer a lot of those questions that you might have. And you don't have to be from Minnesota to really enjoy this book. It talks about, you know, what does superiority mean, and, you know, terms like ethnocentrism and biases, it also goes in depth of what the terms institutional racism are, and internalized racism, you know, a lot of people get hung up and stuck on the vocabulary. But the biggest piece about being hung up and stuck on the vocabulary is the fact of not knowing what they mean. And there's a really good quote of it should matter to you, even if it doesn't affect you, or what walk of life you belong to, should read books like these, because it really does talk about people that you might know people that are in your family and their lenses and how they see the world through their eyes and how they are being treated. It is tragedy and the loss of land of our indigenous people. And, you know, there are some graphic pictures in here. So that's why I talked about it being for adult education only. This is not a book I would recommend in the classroom setting. First and foremost. It is a well thought out well written book. It has even talks about racial incidences. People think that lynchings in our country's history is primarily in the self. But that is not the case. Where I am from in Duluth, Minnesota. There was a lynching in Duluth in 1920 that lynched three young black men in Duluth, and we do have a memorial site for the the lynchings of Clayton Jackson and McGee these are the three men who are lynched in 1928 talks about boarding schools with indigenous people. African Americans were denied positions and opportunity. The memories that Thomas peacock writes about his life is so so important about lived experiences, it is so important I mean, they talk about the Tina's the Jewish faith people the Hmong people their stories, African American heritage, the Muslim Islamic people faiths, and just talking about how we still have a long way to go. But in order to move forward, we need to understand people of all walks of life and they're in their experiences as well. They talk about people of the Asian Pacific heritage, they talk about white supremacy. In the full circle moments that go hand in hand, they have activities that you can talk about with your families at home, to promote more understanding. You know, for instance, writing down as many stereotypes as you can think of and sharing those out, you know, searching things online about things that have happened and, and dissecting and auditing the different viewpoints. I feel as adults, we need to start by doing our own research and reading books that will help cultivate conversations with our children, I think that is really important. Another thing I really want to stress out is, we need to have our own self reflection, our own self audit of our own overt and implicit biases. In order to check and correct our own authority. In order to check and correct our own biases. We have to do the work internally. I'm not sure if you can find it in more local bookstores in your area. But check out Afton press.com. See if you can snag yourself a copy. I highly recommend this book to be free understanding and eliminating racism by Thomas peacock and Marlene wizardry. It's forwarded by Eric jolly, I cannot stress this book out enough. Please get your hands on a copy, share it with your book circles. Like I said, there are a couple graphic elements that is not suitable for children. It will cause harm. But as an adult, I really would love for you to take a look at this book, journal about it, process it. This will help us move forward as a society. This is all that I have for you today. Definitely check it out on Afton press.com. See if you can get yourself a copy and start the process of your own identity healing and your own community building process of how can you be an authentic ally. So thanks again, everyone, for joining me today on the cultural curriculum chat. Be sure to check out more resources that I have for you on my website at Jebeh edmunds.com JEBEHEDMUND s.com. For lots and lots of sources that you can download today with lesson plans. You can read my blog, and it also has direct links to my YouTube channel. Mrs. Edmonds cultural corner as well. Thank you all so very much. Stay safe out there and take care. Bye bye