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1999 Best. Movie. Year. Ever., a conversation – Episode 2: “Varsity Blues”
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Garrett Chaffin-Quiray and Ed Rosa worry about a surprisingly grim, historically successful bargain that demands a young person trade their body, future, and identity for a small town’s idea of glory.
This is part of a series that overlaps with, and extends, Brian Raftery’s 2020 book “Best. Movie. Year. Ever.: How 1999 Blew Up the Big Screen”. Screenings include: “Following” (Christopher Nolan, 1998), “Varsity Blues” (Brian Robbins, 1999), “The Blair Witch Project” (Daniel Myrick and Eduardo Sánchez, 1999), “The Matrix” (The Wachowskis, 1999), “Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace” (George Lucas, 1999), “South Park - Bigger, Longer and Uncut” (Trey Parker, 1999), “Free Enterprise” (Robert Meyer Burnett, 1999), “Eyes Wide Shut” (Stanely Kubrick, 1999), “Twin Falls Idaho” (Michael Polish, 1999), “American Beauty” (Sam Mendes, 1999), “Three Kings” (David O. Russell, 1999), “Boys Don't Cry” (Kimberly Peirce, 1999), “Topsy-Turvy” (Mike Leigh, 1999), “Magnolia” (Paul Thomas Anderson, 1999), and “Wadd: The Life & Times of John C. Holmes” (Cass Paley, 1998).
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Referenced media:
- “The Real World” (Mary-Ellis Bunim and Jonathan Murray, 1992-2017)
- “Friday Night Lights: A Town, a Team, and a Dream” (1990) by H.G. Bissinger
- “Friday Night Lights” (Peter Berg, 2004)
- “Friday Night Lights” (Jason Katims, 2006-2011)
- “Against the Grain” (Michael Pavone and Dave Alan Johnson, 1993)
- “I Can’t Believe I Did the Whole Team” (John T. Bone, 1994)
- “Dazed and Confused” (Richard Linklater, 1993)
- “American Graffiti” (George Lucas, 1973)
- “The State” (Kevin Allison, Michael Ian Black, Robert Ben Garant, Todd Holoubek, Michael Patrick Jann, Kerri Kenney-Silver, Thomas Lennon, Joe Lo Truglio, Ken Marino, Michael Showalter, and David Wain, 1994-1995)
- “Beavis and Butt-Head” (Mike Judge, 1993-1997)
- “Liquid Television” (Japhet Asher, 1991-1995)
- “Total Request Live” (Tony DiSanto and Carson Daly, 1998-2008)
- “Dawson’s Creek” (Kevin Williamson, 1993-2003)
- “Top Gun” (Tony Scott, 1986)
- “The Water Boy” (Frank Coraci, 1998)
- “I Still Know What You Did Last Summer” (Danny Cannon, 1998)
- “She’s All That” (Robert Iscove, 1999)
- “Blast from the Past” (Hugh Wilson, 1999)
- “Jawbreaker” (Darren Stein, 1999)
- “Cruel Intentions” (Roger Kumble, 1999)
- “The Rage: Carrie 2” (Katt Shea, 1999)
- “10 Things I Hate About You” (Gil Junger, 1999)
- “The Full Monty” (Peter Cattaneo, 1997)
Audio quotation:
- “Varsity Blues” (Brian Robbins, 1999), including “Run to Touchdown” by Mark Isham, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcZFSpYGNRk&list=RDvcZFSpYGNRk&start_radio=1; “My Hero” (1998) written by Dave Grohl, Pat Smear, and Nate Mendel, and performed by Foo Fighters; “Nice Guys Finish Last” (1999) written and performed by Green Day; “Hot For Teacher” (1984) written and performed by Van Halen
- “MTV Bumper - Moon Man” (1981) written and performed by Jonathan Elias and John Petersen, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqPBUrXgrTw
- “Whole Lotta Love” (1969) written by John Bonham, Willie Dixon, John Paul Jones, Jimmy Page, and Robert Plant, and performed by Led Zeppelin, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQmmM_qwG4k&list=RDHQmmM_qwG4k&start_radio=1
- “When You Wish Upon a Star” (1985) written by Leigh Harline and Ned Washington, and arranged by John Debney, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayRlrAtnmlY
- “1999” (2018) written by Charlotte Aitchison, Jonnali Parmenius, Oscar Holter, Troye Sivan, Brett McLaughlin, and Max Martin, and performed by Charlie XCX and Troye Sivan, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYVtjAInQY0&list=PLQl1_YXgq4hjhZwnlRPMF-Z9aXe89WZAn&index=1
- “1999” (1982) written and performed by Prince, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblt2EtFfC4&list=RDrblt2EtFfC4&start_radio=1
- “Millenium” (1998) written by Robbie Williams, Guy Chambers, Leslie Bricusse, and John Barry, and performed by Robbie Williams, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcWOviMI6Lk&list=RDxcWOviMI6Lk&start_radio=1
Cold Open: Midwestern Marxist Fantasy
SPEAKER_02It's a wonderful Midwestern Marxist football fantasy.
SPEAKER_00Whipping bikinis make you sick.
SPEAKER_021999, best movie year ever? Episode 2, Varsity Blues.
SPEAKER_00Welcome
Welcome And Guest Ed Rosa
SPEAKER_00to the Blockbusters and Birdwalks podcast. I am the curator, Garrett Chafenkirai. Today we have a conversation with a friend, Ed Rosa.
SPEAKER_02That's me. Hi. My filmmaking partner and I have a YouTube channel, Toothless Richard Productions, where you can see a number of our short films.
SPEAKER_00Let's
Finding Varsity Blues In 1999
SPEAKER_00go back to January, 1999. I saw this thing being advertised. MTV Films movie? I'm not sure that I'm the Target demographic anymore that I've watched since that season with Pedro of the Real World.
SPEAKER_02There was a like like a an MTV style like glaze over the whole thing.
SPEAKER_00Perhaps a year or so later, I had a trip and I saw a cousin of mine. I went to his home. He was an avid football player all through childhood and through high school. He was a college recruit, in fact, to play, I think, D2. He was injured in a car accident, his senior year, but the love of football had never given up. He became a coach. It's in the blood. And he says, hey, let's watch Far City Blues. Which is also to say the characters that this movie centers on are awful people I hate. But the other thing that I was aware of, Friday Night Lights, the expose of West Texas football through Permian High School, was published, I think, in 1990. And I can
Friday Night Lights As Contrast
SPEAKER_00remember thumbing through that at my Waldman Books at our local mall.
SPEAKER_02That that is a that is a nonfictional tome?
SPEAKER_00It is. Oh. And he's Peter Berg's cousin. Peter Berg optioned his cousin's book, which was a bestseller, to make the movie of the same name, which was released, I think, in 2004, five, something like this. That became then the root of the sort of runaway NBC hit TV series, which has launched many careers. There was also a rather failed NBC series that only went for six episodes, somewhere in the mix of all of that, with a different title. I point all of these references out because I really like the movie Friday Night Lights. I like the sense of humanity that it is trying to expose but also criticize with a real nose to the grindstone of this is not a way to raise boys. This is not a way to raise a community. This is an inappropriate overinvestment in the wrong values. And at the same time, isn't camaraderie and sport excellent when performed at a high level? Varsity Blues takes away all of that seriousness. All of it. But a different way to view it is that Varsity Blues does collect a whole bunch of neat scenes that I very much enjoy. Which is, again, why it's an MTV films thing. It's aimed at somebody who was always younger than I ever was when this movie was released. Right. And aimed at a person who had different values than I have ever possessed.
A Personal Brush With Football Culture
SPEAKER_00A sidebar. I was really fascinated by the older brother of my high school girlfriend who was a star football player. Going into junior year, I wanted to get away from my activities and go out for the football team. So I have this I have the slimmest little slice and glimpse of what my high school program was like at the very end of the 1980s because I was hero worshipping my girlfriend's older brother. It did not work out. I was a misfit. But what turned my whole understanding of football on edge at age 15, 16, somewhere in there, when I did this, is that the coaches were promoting a really sort of blunt, kind of sexist idea about what we boys were supposed to be all about. How the cheerleaders and the girl staffers bringing water out to two a days in the summer sun as you prepare for the season, what they were about as service providers. Hint, hint, get me, know what I'm talking about. Right. And the really unnerving part is one of those coaches had a daughter who was my age.
SPEAKER_03Jake fucking!
unknownI want to be a black dog man!
SPEAKER_02Porno in the 90s called I Can't Believe I Did the Whole Team. Turns out that this, just like Friday Night Lights, is true. It is a non-fictional tome.
SPEAKER_00And I was suddenly feeling orphaned in boy country, away from my normal social relationships. It was brutal. I got bloodied. It was a drag. That's masculine. And it was not for this unbutched guy. So all of that rolls into my now middle-aged response to varsity blues, which I have seen before, as I mentioned. Seeing it with my cousin was a certain kind of eye-opening account. Because another way that I think this movie can be celebrated, and probably is by most people who have a memory of it or wish to see it, it's not that it's boys will be boys and how toxic that is. It's that boys do have a culture all unto themselves. And the camaraderie and teamwork that they enjoy while building the team to accomplish something great, win a trophy, become state champions, whatever it is.
SPEAKER_02Trevor Burrus, Jr. Deb my girlfriend and I talk about, you know, if we had a kid, all of the things we would we would make our child do, uh, and one of them is team sports. I think that's very beneficial, and it helps you learn things about life and dealing with other people and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, I do believe that there are inherent value. There is inherent value in team sports.
Team Sports, Leadership, And A Messy Movie
SPEAKER_00And there is a quiet sort of theme that runs up through this movie and bubbles along, which has to do with self-actualization and a young person taking over the reins of leadership from the old, or at least the elder, that is no longer appropriately able to lead. But that's a message which I kind of go for in one of the scenes that works in this movie.
SPEAKER_01Before this game started, Kilmer said 48 minutes the next 48 years of our lives. Let's go out there and we'll play the next 24 minutes for the next 24 minutes. And we'll leave it all out on the field. We got the rest of our lives to be mediocre, but we have the opportunity to play like God for the next half of football. We can't be afraid to lose. There's no room for fear in this game. And we go out there and we half-ass it because we're scared. All we're left with is an excuse. We're always gonna wonder. But we go out there and we give it absolutely everything. That's heroic. Let's be heroes.
SPEAKER_00We have Legos all over the house, and it's something that we bring out when little kids come over and we play Legos on the floor. And the thing is, the linkages you make are sometimes really structurally interesting, kind of beautiful, they can be color matched or whatever, but they don't necessarily hook up with your buddy's work. Right. Who's got something else all in their head. I'm trying to build a castle, this fella's trying to make a rocket ship, she's over here making animals. It doesn't link. Yeah. That's varsity blues. They don't quite congeal. Right. Right. And I know that will be my refrain as we talk about this movie. And that's also because it's an echo of Friday Night Lights, which I think is the superior movie covering very similar territory. The
Plot Breakdown Of Kilmer’s Reign
SPEAKER_00snapshot here is we are looking at senior year for a group of kids who have grown up playing Pop Warner football into their high school years since they were five years old. They've all been champions at every level of their life, and they're now being groomed for greatness by the 30 years-long coach Kilmer, played by none other than John Voigt. Trevor Burrus, Jr. I didn't think he was acting.
SPEAKER_02I don't think he was acting. I felt like I was just actually watching John Voyt.
SPEAKER_00Trevor Burrus, Jr. But he's being a very blunt patriarch, if not dictator, who's brought remarkable success to this little program at this little high school in the middle of Podunk, West Texas. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_02He's like the coach in uh in Dazed and Confused.
SPEAKER_00Trevor Burrus I thought of that a lot too. Exactly right. Those references land right on top of each other. But Dazed and Confused is negative nostalgia for the 70s. This is negative nostalgia which was presented as celebration in the late 1990s, and it's the same archetypes at work. Super masculine men, bite the bullet, express no pain, win at all costs. That's John Voigt's character, Coach Kilmer. All the boys are in awe of him. All of them will kill themselves trying to serve the coach's needs, and they all hate him because they realize they're a disposable product. They will be replaced by the kids coming up in the ranks who are going to take their spot as soon as they age out of high school and graduate. And then the other part of it is all of their dads in this community remember playing for coach when they were coming up.
SPEAKER_02Right. Yeah. There's even a statue of him out front of the high school.
SPEAKER_00A big bronze with arm outraged.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, just like Saddam Hussein. It is. Or Walt Disney. Yeah. So that's the backdrop. I wonder if anybody has ever said that before anywhere in the world. Just like Saddam Hussein or Walt Disney.
SPEAKER_00The point of view character, John Mox, played by James Vanderbeek. He is the back of the book.
SPEAKER_02We lost him recently, didn't we? We did.
SPEAKER_00Interestingly, to jump to that, three of the lead characters in this movie are all dead. One is James Vanderbeek, who died from cancer, I think. It's not John Voigt. Paul Walker died at the end. Oh, that's right. Paul Walker, that's right. And then the overstuffed lineman.
SPEAKER_02Oh, Ron Lester, Billy Bob. Billy Bob. Well, I thought he was going to die in the middle of the movie.
SPEAKER_00Because he's such a big boy and apparently had gastric bypass and then eventually had complications. So he's been deceased ten years or more. Okay. So three of the leads of this movie, all young men when they made this in their twenties, didn't survive to make fifty. And it does haunt the movie because you're watching these people, even John Voigt, in a pitch of their earlier lives when they really have a lot to look forward to. The Central Cast, with only a couple of exceptions, they're all gorgeous. John Voigt is a vigorous, I'd say late 50s dude. I've liked him as a performer all of my life. I've learned to think maybe he's a disagreeable human being. Yeah. But I like him on screen. He does his job well.
SPEAKER_02He's done a lot of good stuff.
SPEAKER_00He really has. So Mox is the backup quarterback. He's back up to Lance Harbor, played by Paul Walker. Paul Walker is eventually hurt in the campaign of the season, which means that Mox has to step into the starring role. Nobody acknowledges that Mox is a very good athlete. He's known to be a bookworm. He's a straight A student. He reads Slaughterhouse 5 in the playbook while he's benched during the games because he knows he'll never see the field. Right. He wants to go to Brown, he wants to leave Texas behind, and he never wants to return, with the possible exception of his girlfriend, who's Lance Harbour's younger sister, a year behind them. He would like to keep up with Amy Smart, who is Julie Harbor, but otherwise he wants nothing to do with his hometown. He doesn't get along with his old man who's always like football, football, football. So Mox is built up as our point of view. He's an anti-her because he's literate, he's a straight A student, he doesn't really care about football, but he cares about his boys. So that includes Lance, the starting quarterback played by Paul Walker. That includes Billy Bob, this gigantically obese, do anything for you a lineman, plays both sides, defense and offense. That's Ron Lester. And then it also includes Charlie Tweeter, who's sort of a, I guess he's a halfback, catches and runs, played by Scott Kahn. In West Canaan, Texas, there is another society which has its own laws. One, it's aimed at the young MTV films. The second thing to say about it is it's still effective at creating the cartoon characterization necessary to run through this sort of simple-mindedness. Because you do need the villain. And this is a football movie. The villain's not going to be created in the other locker room because if we meet the other team, we're going to like them too. Right. Or we're going to dislike them in the same way we like or dislike our team. So the villain is the coach, Coach Kilmer. We watch Coach Kilmer urging his athletic trainers to shoot up the knee of Paul Walker's Lance Harbor because he's got so much scar tissue and damage the kid can hardly walk without pain meds. We watch various medications, illegal and not, be traded around the locker room. Everybody here is a boozer and they're not even out of senior year. Oh, yeah. Which stunned me because I wasn't exposed really to alcohol until the second half of my senior year, going to a couple of weird, rowdy parties that were shocking to me in my little cloistered childhood. There it all is. Coach Kilmer wants to conclude his 30th year of coaching with a third state championship, but at minimum a 23rd district championship, and the boys are marching their way through when they lose their starting quarterback. They gain a guy who's arguably even more talented, but he's got a conscience. He wants to make sure all of his buddies are going to be okay. But because Kilmer is Kilmer, he's got his thumbs on everything, and he basically says, Mox, you do what I want, or I'm going to ruin your scholarship to Brown. As you might guess, Mox and the boys pull it together and win. But they notably do so by throwing the coach out of the halftime locker because he is willing to shoot drugs into the knee of their star running back, and that's Wendell Brown, played by former NFL player Eliel Swinton, who was a Stanford star. The boys rally around him. He's the one black star player they've got who's regularly not allowed to score because the coach, in addition to all those other faults, is a kind of an old-fashioned racist.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's uh a charge that's been leveled at uh Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots.
SPEAKER_00You boys get on the field, etc. They refuse and finally drive him alone out of the locker room, whereupon Vanderbeek's mocks gives a good speech. They do win the game. Uh we get a voiceover at the end that explains what happens generally to the principal performers we've just spent time with. None of them really go on to the greatness that their adult selves might aspire to. Right. He does go off to Brown. Wendell gets a scholarship to Grambling, which means he's going to be a workhorse for a different difficult football coach. But none of them make it to 23 or 40. We don't get that kind of view in TV films. Focus on youth.
SPEAKER_02As I
MTV In 1999 And Soundtrack Economics
SPEAKER_02recall, the early 90s is when they really started ushering in like some programming that isn't music. That's when they brought in the state, and that's when they brought in the real world, and that's when they brought in Beavis and Butthead and Liquid Television.
SPEAKER_00Part of it was those were great. I used to stay up and enjoy the snot out of that from 11 o'clock at night.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But it was a dramatic shift from music, just music, 24 hours a day. And so for me, like my relationship with MTV, which had been very close to now where it's not so much music, I'm not as up on stuff, right? You get now in '99, right? Now you've got the rise, uh you got TRL. Boy bands, which I was not into. There's two old fan. Uh you had all of this kind of new metal that was taking over, which I was not into.
SPEAKER_00Well, hip-hop hadn't taken over the world.
SPEAKER_02Uh right. Well, no, now that I was into, though. Um, but the stuff I was into is not getting played on MTV. I hate to say like manipulative, but like, you know, like the soundtrack. You know, it's all, oh, it's like all these, you know, you know, Green Day was in there, Offspring was in there. Trevor Burrus, Jr.
SPEAKER_00This movie, like a lot of MTV programming, it's meant to sell soundtrack albums. I mean, the movie was not terribly expensive. You know, my my notes showed $16 million, which is far from nothing. And a lot of that I think has to do with some of the Central Cast members. It's important to realize that Vanderbeek was then on Dawson's Creek, which would make him an overnight superstar on television. I thought Dawson's Creek came after this. I think he was just before, like the year before. Okay, well, he was suddenly kind of an America's favorite boyfriend neighbor with this weird upstart show and this weird upstart network taking on the traditional three, and boom, there he is. He probably got a pretty sweet deal on this. They had to license a lot of music. They have a big cast. Yeah. They all had to have hotels. It probably took a good period of time to shoot this movie. It was pretty profitable. It earned more than $50 million globally, which is enough to return on that investment. But it pushed these performers into future roles. It pushed the idea of soundtrack album, which was just made perfectly explicit, for me as a flash. The first time I really realized that sometimes musicians ally themselves with filmmakers, or the reverse, filmmakers ally themselves with musicians. To build soundtrack albums to pump the energy necessary for scenes was Top Gun, which for me exists as the Tom Cruise vehicle, and it exists as the soundtrack album, which I have on audio tape somewhere in this garage where we're recording, and on CD. I demand that Top Gun exist in both of those worlds. And I have sampled heavily each over the last 40, 40 years, if you can believe it, right? When I hear the pop songs this movie employs, I thought to myself, now, I didn't know that song was around in 1999. Because I code it to a later period of my life when I was hearing it on top 40 greatest of the 80s magazine to teach.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, right. Yeah, when you're seeing it in commercials. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But there's a little layout motif that's put under a certain number of the scenes at least twice of Foo Fighter's My Hero. But if you think about what was in theaters dating back to late 1998, you have things like The Water Boy, and I still know what you did last summer. You get into the new year and you got She's All That, you get Blast from the Past, you get Jawbreaker. I love Jawbreaker. From there, you get Cruel Intentions, The Rage Carry Two, and by March, you get Ten Things I Hate About You. This is a youth-flooded world of entertainment that is aimed right at kids.
Profanity And The Whipped Cream Bikini
SPEAKER_00Now, a note about varsity blues, and I'd forgotten this. It's a very profane movie. Kind of totally weird like that.
SPEAKER_02Like on like at first, it it felt like it should be a PG-13, but then there were these little moments in there that were super R.
SPEAKER_03Jonathan Bobson, you are under arrest for not being naked with some sophomore chicken off the bank, you win the dumb.
SPEAKER_00So this all brings me back around to whipped cream bikinis. There's a central secondary character played by Allie Larder. And she'll always be connected to this, though she's had a robust career all the way through the present. Allie Larder plays Darcy Sears. She's head cheerleader and the girlfriend of the starting quarterback. We meet her, and we think that means she loves Lance Harbor, played by Paul Walker. They're kind of beautifully correct, a couple of blonde, great-looking people. But she's married to the role. And she's got a plan with him to go to Florida State. The instant he's hurt, he can't be the starting quarterback, but he's got no future in college. Mox has this girlfriend. He doesn't want to cheat on her, and the proof comes right up into a scene when Darcy says, Come to my house. My parents are away till at least midnight, and you can do whatever you want to me. He arrives, he's unsure if he should be there, and she says, Would you like a Sunday? She goes into the kitchen, disrobes, and makes a whipped cream bikini complete with cherries. Yes.
SPEAKER_02And he rejects her, which causes her naturally to feel bad. Then they sit down on the couch to have this conversation. And I'm like, now you're getting it all over the couch. It's not right. It's dairy. And also it's really hard to take this heartfelt moment that they're having seriously while she's sitting there with cherries for nipples. Yeah. And maybe this is just me. But I'd be like, look, um maybe go take a shower and then let's have this little tent-a-tete.
SPEAKER_00You're a mess. It is a signature scene that the movie is well known for. The exploitation of a young woman who is willing to take the job. And she was in her early twenties, not a kid. So she was perfectly able to do this. But she's playing a kid who's at most 18 years old, but is likely 17. So there's an exploitative element there that is uncomfortable. But there's a sexually exciting element there which is totally great. And I kind of get why that's done. MTV films. But then when you push into what their conversation is about, and she explains that she and Lance had this plan, we're going to go to Florida State together. Why she can't go on her own, I don't understand. It's alluded to later on that she won Lance by giving him a whipped cream bikini and becoming his girl. Right. There's no reason she can't continue to do that in the future every time she finds a young man she's interested in because she's roll humping. She doesn't care with the person, and they don't care about her. They just want the body that's hidden behind the whipped cream bikini. But press in. She's gotten admitted to Florida State. Mox has already explained to Amy Smart, his girlfriend, Julie, that she's misreading Darcy, who's a straight A student. Why would any girl who has behaved this way through all of high school suddenly see the light? When a friend she's known for 13 years says, You don't have to do this. That doesn't make any sense. Well, but also she's got her own way out because she says, I gotta get out of this town. You can. Yeah. That doesn't depend on me.
SPEAKER_02Right. In fact, it it almost seems kind of dumb to like hitch hitch your star to the wagon of an athlete because all of that can just evaporate so quickly in one single injury.
SPEAKER_00Which already happened. Yeah. And we've seen the house she lives in. Her family has means. Oh, yeah. They're not in a broken down, no electricity outdoor plumbing trailer that's rotting and rusting out in the middle of a field. No, this is a nice big single-family home with giant rooms. It's carpeted. She's fine.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, everybody's healthy. You know what else, too, is that you've got this situation where you have two teenagers who are engaged in an embarrassingly bosched sexual activity, and they manage to both get out of it with no weirdness. And they're still pals.
SPEAKER_00The next day at school, she's like, thanks, Mox, and she kisses him full on the mouth in view of his girlfriend. That leads to its own problems. But they're completely okay because she realizes, yeah, I'm not gonna have to seduce you. It's cool. Thank God for good communication. Right, right. So the scene plays until you press on it, and then it doesn't make any sense. Right. It's only there because it was written that way by W. Peter Illiff, but also it's only there because Allie Larder took the part, probably knowing, hey, listen, you gotta do this thing. Are you willing to do it? And she's like, I'll do anything you want if I can be in this movie.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's better than like actual full-blown nudity. I I mean I would have to. There's only suggestive about it, which is sort of thought. I don't I I don't shame anybody for being naked on on camera. I don't, I don't, I that's but I'm just gonna be able to do it. This is a pink shame-free zone. Right, absolutely, 100%. So, but I'm just saying, like, I know for a lot of actresses, you know, that's like a big thing, like, oh, you know, to be naked on film, right? And so I feel like she kind of got like a little tiny bit of that without having to go and completely the full Monty, you know.
Adult Actors And Onscreen Nudity
SPEAKER_00When you compare that against the way Scott Kahn plays his part, the pseudo-rapist tweeter, he spends a fair amount of the movie with his shirt off. In at least two scenes, we see him naked from behind because he seems to just have no problem streaking. And he's beautifully well built.
SPEAKER_02All right, don't we see his asshole? Good moonin', boys, good moonin'. I wasn't ready for that.
SPEAKER_00The kids who were the stars on my high school football team, they were set apart because they were bigger. They were stronger. Well, that's why they're on the football team. They were rougher, they were reputed to be more difficult to manage as classroom problems, behavior problems among us as their fellow students, but certainly among the teachers. And they were also just older somehow. Yeah. And that is played out in how this movie looks because we have adults, all of them in their young 20s, playing people in their late teens, but are supposed to be minors turning into majors before our eyes across this football season. And they're doing very adult things. They're doing drugs, they're staying out all night, they're drinking real heavy.
SPEAKER_02In the tiny town of West Canaan, Texas, they have no idea that one of their teachers works at the strip club.
SPEAKER_00Nineteen ninety-nine, best movie year ever? I guess the jury's still out.