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That Time There Were Three Popes: A History of the Great Western Schism

October 25, 2025 • Austin Suggs

The Great Western Schism is one of the most fascinating and dramatic stories in the history of the church. And yet, many people have never heard of it. This is a story of saints against saints, councils against popes, and rival popes vying for power. For skeptics, it's proof the emperor has no clothes. For committed Catholics, it's a reminder that the church has been through far worse in its past than in its present. For everyone, it's a story worth knowing.

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00:00 Setting the Stage
00:53 Avignon Papacy
02:23 Returning to Rome
04:12 The Fateful Conclave
08:00 The Schism Begins
13:00 France Loses Patience
13:42 The Council of Pisa
14:32 Three Popes
15:47 Council of Constance
21:30 Benedict's Power Fades
24:03 The Clementine Line Sputters Out
24:53 What Now?

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